If the the mimo antenna is wider than the feedhorn it might be necessary to move it away from the focal point to ensure full coverage. Aliexpress sells better dedicated 4G/5G mimo feedhorns, and putting the LTE router in a weatherproof box, either directly plugged into the feedhorn or used as the antenna itself and running Ethernet cable from that avoids the respective significant to huge loss of signal from the connecting cables at lower and higher frequencies.
Great. I have an old dish on my cabin from the previous owners, and my solar setup used lte but drops out a lot. Now i just need to figure out where to aim it.
Damn i need this, my setup is a signal booster from ali express with a yagi 12dbi antenna and i got 2 mbs download on day, and sometimes 11 mbs at night, hope it can get any better
From what I'm seeing around UA-cam you've got the fastest speed using 4G LTE with your DIY solution. 90-100mbps is insanely good! I have two questions: Is your mobile data plan restricted to a max of 100mbps during this experiment? What's the diameter of your parabolic dish (so I can try to replicate your results)? Thanks!
@@JuliansRandomProject Thank you! I'm going to replicate your experiment using a router with 4G LTE Advanced (max 300Mbps) and a mobile data plan with 300/150Mbps in the hope of getting even crazier results 🚀
@@ryan.a If your router is 300/50, that is a CAT6 modem and your real world speed is going to be about 100/50. To get more speed you need a router with CAT12 or CAT18 LTE modem. CAT18 can do 5x CA down, 2x CA upload, so you could go up to 250/100 real world speed.
@JuliansRandomProject if I can find an old dish, I'll have to give this a try. I've been debating getting an external mimo antenna like that, but the expense would be drastically more. Thanks for the video! 😁
Any idea if this would work for TMobile home internet and N71 5G? I know TMHI uses both 4G and 5G bands for internet connection so if anything it might just improve the 4G signal 🤷♂️
I used box lined with foil and I put the gateway in the box and pointed facing the tower. I went from 30 to 6o download and 5 up. To 130 to 200 download and 20 to 35 up.
What exactly is the device "sma connected" you used? Once it is mounted on the satellite do you then have cabling going from that inside the house to a router? or is it wireless waterproof router? How is it powered...
There is a short run (~6 feet) of antenna cable that goes to an LTE/Hotspot modem. Then it's ethernet into the house like any other high speed connection, you'd run that into a router for wifi and other wired devices. Good luck!
Hey I hope you can respond I'm pretty late but I have a netbuddy cuddy router that has a external antenna outlet can I just buy the cellular antenna put it in my old dish about 20feet from my router using the cable would that work? Just trying to figure it out I noticed the cellular antenna you listed comes with cable @@JuliansRandomProject
Does this work in sweden to? We have tried everything but only get about 7-10 mbit in a good sunny day. Will this work so we can get at least 60 mbit i would ve very happy 😍
Buy a proper mimo 4x4 outside antenna and fix it to the roof and the connect modern 4G router turn WiFi off... Run lan cable down to the first floor cheap WiFi router as access point(with no dhcp) ... Will give you maximum "possible" speed that is what we run in rural German 3rd world forgotten east :/ O2 is cheaper and beats T-Mobile in some areas just search for the next tower before you buy :-)
@@JuliansRandomProject we bought a mimo 4g antenna and a 4g router. Geting about 40-50 mbit/s. Im gonna try to change the band in the router and test to point The antenna arround and se if we can get a bit higher 😊
I have Verizon cell service, I don't have a modem with that kind of connection. Could I purchase a modem from like Walmart with the right connection and it work? I have a Netgear router, but the connection is phone cable, is there a work around for this? I have a couple old dishes
@@JuliansRandomProject I have frontier internet. I have a really tall TV antenna tower right behind my house. I climbed up about half way and ran a speed test with just my cell phone plan without wifi connected and had more speeds then with my internet company. Really wanna tap into that potential. My Verizon tower I connect to is band 13, 750mhz.
@@brandonmorgan6395 You'll first need to secure an unlimited data plan with accompanying SIM then buy an LTE modem that is compatible with Verizon and has external antenna. then pair those up with a nice external antenna and go hunting for best signal. Take a look at all the RVers that do similar here on UA-cam for more info. Good luck!
Check on Amazon & eBay... Bingfu 4G LTE Adhesive Magnetic Mount Antenna MIMO SMA Male 4G LTE Antenna $16.99 Specifications: Gain: 2.5dBi Frequency Range: 698-960 MHz, 1710-2170 MHz, 2300-2700 MHz VSWR:
The temporary solution of gaffer’s tape became the long term solution :) After we got Starlink this antenna got less and less use. 3D printing a bracket would have been the best solution.
Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately we have far too much wind (50mph+) and rain where I am to rely on tape or even 3d printing. My search to figure this out continues lol. Thank you again@@JuliansRandomProject
Hight its too critical for LTE. You'll want to have short cables for the RF and use USB for the longer run. Do not use the coax cables that the sat dish was previously using. Good luck
Not using it currently but when it was in service I simply aimed it (like a rifle) at the tower. You can watch the rssi in your dashboard go up. Aim for biggest signal.
@@JuliansRandomProject definition of rssi up, if you mean that it is supposed to go from say -70 to -78 than it it the wrong way. But if you mean from -70 towards 0 then yes, up 😊 I read and seen that you need to angle the dish more or less at the ground dou to the being made for space transmission transmission, not ground to ground.
@@JuliansRandomProject this can't be right. the shape of the dish focuses incoming satellite signal for TV into a focal point, the reverse (TX) would disperse the TX signal
@@cristivpopescu You're correct. the TX pattern from this antenna would have a sort of wide beam (spreading out) in one direction less than 180 degrees. Which is better than omni directional like a normal hotspot antenna would be. So while I mentally envision hitting the tower with a laser beam, you're right... on TX it's more like a dispersed signal. The rejection of 180 degrees on the receive side plus the focusing of RX signals is where we're getting our biggest bang for the buck. Thanks for this note. has me thinking we should do a test with like a flat piece of sheet metal to compare the results.
@@JuliansRandomProject Thanks! I've used the old dish to boost signal from another house down the street where my parents have wifi. That way we don't pay the ISP twice. Put the router at the focal point and with a clear line of site.
Do you know how far the cellular antenna is? I have already installed an antenna but it gives awful results and I'm considering doing this, in my case the antenna is ~2km away, without any obstacle
@@JuliansRandomProject thx, I've done some research on this topic, and even with some tools measured an elevation profile and using my calculations, I'm 1300m away from the antenna so this should work. You mention this is overkill, why yoh think that?
@@masiv1001 Over kill because I can probably get the same results with a much smaller parabolic and more precise aiming. Bet yours works great! good luck
No changes :) locked in and doing great. I need to find some tool that’ll show me RSSI and SNR at a quicker interval. Right now I have to make an adjustment and then wait 10 seconds to see if that helped.
Great work man wish I could do that here but I live in a 10 story building lol! Btw do you have any suggestions for LTE indoor antennas? I use a Huawei B535 router(SMA).
Most any well made antenna will do great indoors. The real benefit comes from moving it around the house and aiming it in different directions to get the strongest signal. Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
If the the mimo antenna is wider than the feedhorn it might be necessary to move it away from the focal point to ensure full coverage. Aliexpress sells better dedicated 4G/5G mimo feedhorns, and putting the LTE router in a weatherproof box, either directly plugged into the feedhorn or used as the antenna itself and running Ethernet cable from that avoids the respective significant to huge loss of signal from the connecting cables at lower and higher frequencies.
Always the shortest runs of coax possible :) And thank for the lead on "4G/5G mimo feedhorns" lot's of stuff popping up on aliexpress!
It’s an offset dish, it should almost look as if it is pointing at the ground when pointing towards the horizon.
Great. I have an old dish on my cabin from the previous owners, and my solar setup used lte but drops out a lot. Now i just need to figure out where to aim it.
Awesome 👍. Best of luck with the chickens
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Damn i need this, my setup is a signal booster from ali express with a yagi 12dbi antenna and i got 2 mbs download on day, and sometimes 11 mbs at night, hope it can get any better
It’s ease for install ?
From what I'm seeing around UA-cam you've got the fastest speed using 4G LTE with your DIY solution. 90-100mbps is insanely good! I have two questions: Is your mobile data plan restricted to a max of 100mbps during this experiment? What's the diameter of your parabolic dish (so I can try to replicate your results)? Thanks!
In testing I'm confident it was capped at 100mbps. The dish size is the typical 30 inch size for remote internet or TV.
@@JuliansRandomProject Thank you! I'm going to replicate your experiment using a router with 4G LTE Advanced (max 300Mbps) and a mobile data plan with 300/150Mbps in the hope of getting even crazier results 🚀
@@ryan.a If your router is 300/50, that is a CAT6 modem and your real world speed is going to be about 100/50. To get more speed you need a router with CAT12 or CAT18 LTE modem. CAT18 can do 5x CA down, 2x CA upload, so you could go up to 250/100 real world speed.
To get CAT18 to work at full speed you need a 4x4 MIMO antenna, the one in this video is a 2x2 MIMO.
How do the DIY dish antenna speeds and signal strength compare to the external antenna you bought for your other router?
Speed is up to 100Mbps vs 40 on the other antenna. I didn’t bother to compare signal strength because two routers rarely agree on dbm.
@JuliansRandomProject if I can find an old dish, I'll have to give this a try. I've been debating getting an external mimo antenna like that, but the expense would be drastically more. Thanks for the video! 😁
Did you ever test the antenna speeds before you mounted it on the satellite dish? If so curious what they were :)
4:11
20 down, 10 up
About 40Mbs before and 80-100Mbs after.
Any idea if this would work for TMobile home internet and N71 5G? I know TMHI uses both 4G and 5G bands for internet connection so if anything it might just improve the 4G signal 🤷♂️
The antenna affixed to the LNB area is tuned for 4G so you’re right, would improve 4G. Might be able to find small 5G antenna. Good luck
I used box lined with foil and I put the gateway in the box and pointed facing the tower. I went from 30 to 6o download and 5 up. To 130 to 200 download and 20 to 35 up.
Hello excellent work very inspiring, could you tell me what model of router I use in this test, greetings
What exactly is the device "sma connected" you used? Once it is mounted on the satellite do you then have cabling going from that inside the house to a router? or is it wireless waterproof router? How is it powered...
There is a short run (~6 feet) of antenna cable that goes to an LTE/Hotspot modem. Then it's ethernet into the house like any other high speed connection, you'd run that into a router for wifi and other wired devices. Good luck!
Hey I hope you can respond I'm pretty late but I have a netbuddy cuddy router that has a external antenna outlet can I just buy the cellular antenna put it in my old dish about 20feet from my router using the cable would that work? Just trying to figure it out I noticed the cellular antenna you listed comes with cable @@JuliansRandomProject
This is crazy :D why doesn't every do this? I am mooving to the countryside.
Does this work in sweden to? We have tried everything but only get about 7-10 mbit in a good sunny day. Will this work so we can get at least 60 mbit i would ve very happy 😍
Check the type of account/SIM you have with your cell provider. Sometimes they are throttled/capped for speed. Is your phone faster with a speed test?
Buy a proper mimo 4x4 outside antenna and fix it to the roof and the connect modern 4G router turn WiFi off... Run lan cable down to the first floor cheap WiFi router as access point(with no dhcp) ...
Will give you maximum "possible" speed that is what we run in rural German 3rd world forgotten east :/
O2 is cheaper and beats T-Mobile in some areas just search for the next tower before you buy :-)
@@JuliansRandomProject we bought a mimo 4g antenna and a 4g router. Geting about 40-50 mbit/s. Im gonna try to change the band in the router and test to point The antenna arround and se if we can get a bit higher 😊
Use without SIM card ? I have not WiFi my home I can use ?
SIM card needed
Did he ever say what the piece is that goes on the dish??
Yep and it's in the description. antenna from Amazon: amzn.to/3Avavlz
I have Verizon cell service, I don't have a modem with that kind of connection. Could I purchase a modem from like Walmart with the right connection and it work? I have a Netgear router, but the connection is phone cable, is there a work around for this? I have a couple old dishes
Are you using your Verizon cell service for home internet? Do you have a dedicated SIM/4G data plan?
@@JuliansRandomProject I have frontier internet. I have a really tall TV antenna tower right behind my house. I climbed up about half way and ran a speed test with just my cell phone plan without wifi connected and had more speeds then with my internet company. Really wanna tap into that potential. My Verizon tower I connect to is band 13, 750mhz.
@@brandonmorgan6395 You'll first need to secure an unlimited data plan with accompanying SIM then buy an LTE modem that is compatible with Verizon and has external antenna. then pair those up with a nice external antenna and go hunting for best signal. Take a look at all the RVers that do similar here on UA-cam for more info. Good luck!
Can you show us what's inside that $16 antenna? Please!
I'll see what I can do. It'll be underwhelming. :)
@@JuliansRandomProject thank you!
@@JuliansRandomProject Any update about what's inside? Thanks for the video and nice explanation :)
Check on Amazon & eBay...
Bingfu 4G LTE Adhesive Magnetic Mount Antenna MIMO SMA Male 4G LTE Antenna $16.99
Specifications:
Gain: 2.5dBi
Frequency Range: 698-960 MHz, 1710-2170 MHz, 2300-2700 MHz
VSWR:
Can you input the mhz frequency you want?
No. Just 'Bands"
what did you do to permanently affix the lte antenna to the dish?
The temporary solution of gaffer’s tape became the long term solution :) After we got Starlink this antenna got less and less use. 3D printing a bracket would have been the best solution.
Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately we have far too much wind (50mph+) and rain where I am to rely on tape or even 3d printing. My search to figure this out continues lol. Thank you again@@JuliansRandomProject
@@SimplyStupidArt 3D printing (especially ABS and PETG) can be VERY strong with the right percentage fill. Give it a go
I plan on doing this and bought and have everything did you weatherproof the LTE antenna at all ?@@JuliansRandomProject
Ok what kind of cables are u using? I have an old direct TV dish that's on a 5 - 6 feet pole mounted. Would that be high enough?
Hight its too critical for LTE. You'll want to have short cables for the RF and use USB for the longer run. Do not use the coax cables that the sat dish was previously using. Good luck
Do you still have that setup?
I'm interested in how you set it up towards the tower.
Not using it currently but when it was in service I simply aimed it (like a rifle) at the tower. You can watch the rssi in your dashboard go up. Aim for biggest signal.
@@JuliansRandomProject definition of rssi up, if you mean that it is supposed to go from say -70 to -78 than it it the wrong way. But if you mean from -70 towards 0 then yes, up 😊
I read and seen that you need to angle the dish more or less at the ground dou to the being made for space transmission transmission, not ground to ground.
What do you have boosting signal back to tower ?
The shape of the dish focuses my signal (TX) back to the tower.
@@JuliansRandomProject this can't be right. the shape of the dish focuses incoming satellite signal for TV into a focal point, the reverse (TX) would disperse the TX signal
@@cristivpopescu You're correct. the TX pattern from this antenna would have a sort of wide beam (spreading out) in one direction less than 180 degrees. Which is better than omni directional like a normal hotspot antenna would be. So while I mentally envision hitting the tower with a laser beam, you're right... on TX it's more like a dispersed signal. The rejection of 180 degrees on the receive side plus the focusing of RX signals is where we're getting our biggest bang for the buck. Thanks for this note. has me thinking we should do a test with like a flat piece of sheet metal to compare the results.
How does one go about finding their signal tower?
What a great question! I use cellmapper.net
@@JuliansRandomProject Thanks!
I've used the old dish to boost signal from another house down the street where my parents have wifi. That way we don't pay the ISP twice. Put the router at the focal point and with a clear line of site.
Do you know how far the cellular antenna is? I have already installed an antenna but it gives awful results and I'm considering doing this, in my case the antenna is ~2km away, without any obstacle
Cell tower is 1.3km from my house. Hope that helps. (I think this size is overkill for 1-2km but it’s what I had for free :)
@@JuliansRandomProject thx, I've done some research on this topic, and even with some tools measured an elevation profile and using my calculations, I'm 1300m away from the antenna so this should work.
You mention this is overkill, why yoh think that?
@@masiv1001 Over kill because I can probably get the same results with a much smaller parabolic and more precise aiming. Bet yours works great! good luck
Did you notice any changes after mounting it?
No changes :) locked in and doing great. I need to find some tool that’ll show me RSSI and SNR at a quicker interval. Right now I have to make an adjustment and then wait 10 seconds to see if that helped.
Got a quick question for you how many miles are you away from your closest cell tower
.8 miles
What Att router are you using ?
Model: IFWA-40
I like this video.
Is that dish a tv dishe
Yep. Repurposed tv satellite dish.
@@JuliansRandomProject and what about the smaller one can it be sold to people outside the USA... Say Africa countries
4:01 he he he
Great work man wish I could do that here but I live in a 10 story building lol! Btw do you have any suggestions for LTE indoor antennas? I use a Huawei B535 router(SMA).
Most any well made antenna will do great indoors. The real benefit comes from moving it around the house and aiming it in different directions to get the strongest signal. Good luck! Let us know how it goes.
It doesn’t come from space lol
Satellite TV signals? Have I been lied to all the time?