Post your ranking of the new season! 1. All The Way Down 2. I Know What You Did Next Xmas 3. Children of a Lesser Bog 4. Related to Items You’ve Viewed 5. The Impossible Stream 6. Zapp Gets Cancelled 7. Parasites Regained 8. How the West Was 1010001 9. Rage Against the Vaccine 10. The Prince and the Product
1. All The Way Down 2. I Know What You Did Next Xmas 3. Related To Items You Viewed 4. The Impossible Stream 5. Zapp Gets Cancelled 6. Parasites Regained 7. Rage Against The Vaccine Are the only good episodes in no specific order.
I am disappointed that they vaguely kept Fry and Leelas relationship but not Marianne and Zoidberg. I think they could absolutely have kept her around even if just in references and Zoidberg still work. Retconning her existence or how powerful her relationship with Zoidberg was kinda hurt
Exactly, a complete loop of a story that continues ad infinitum. Fry always delivers pizzas, falls into the pod and after many years of adventures, grows old with Leela and "goes around another time."
I still can't get over how right All The Way Down felt for Futurama. It wasn't just the sci-fi elements, it wasn't just the math jokes, it wasn't just the absolutely stunning end with Fry and Leela. It was all of that with character driven jokes and experimental animation sequences. It wasn't just consistently funny, it felt like a classic Futurama episode.
This may sound like a strange silver lining, but I feel like with these 10 episodes they already burned through all of the dated topics that they couldn’t cover in the 10 years they were gone. Covid, cancellations, Amazon, crypto… I can’t really think of many other topics. Hopefully this means that the later episodes will be a little more timeless EDIT: Oh, I guess you also make this point later in the video. Guess I commented too quickly haha
@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner It would be Zapp, he's basically Trump. He wouldn't exactly run against Nixon tho because they're both Republicans, (but he would shit all over him like Trump did) maybe he runs against one of the main cast/a respected politician and ends up winning even though he get fewer votes.
I would not say a mistake. This is like the first season of the Comedy Central season. A bit of growing pains as the writers get their stride, but there were definitely some gems in there. The last two episodes were my favorite. Can't wait to see what comes next.
I was highly skeptical at the start but they came in strong with brilliant humour and character building, fell off a little towards the end but finished strong
@@danielsmokesmids The rubber ducks song was funny, the animation for Windos was beautiful, killer Zoidberg is a fun concept, and science spell made me chuckle. Plus, I like anthology stories in general.
Loved episode 10. Was great to see David X. Cohen really embracing the reason why I love his writing so much. With all the high brow sci-fi and meta-textual analysis he never lost track of the characters emotions and the human experience.
I’m happy with what they did and to be honest I don’t have many complaints. I’m glad to get more episodes of a show I love so deeply and it shows that the creators do too.
"Mistake" might be a bit much, because there are a lot of moments I'm glad exist (Kif and Amy, the Xmas and finale episodes, the Old West 4 way shootout), but I think the writers were way too ambitious. Most episodes do not need more than an A plot and a B plot, but most of the episodes this season had way too many things with too many characters going on, which wrecks the normal pacing. Classic Futurama, and even most of the CC era, was sharp and funny, but there was also space to let the jokes sit before going to the next one.
Yeah, it has a bit of the Rick and Morty syndrome... Most shows had it the last few years, where they try to cram in more story and jokes in each episode. It works in some shows but in others it gets a bit much, The Simpsons had the same problem for some years now. I think they believe all modern viewers have ADHD and must be bombarded with jokes all the time. Futurama still had less of it then most other shows have 2023, but at times it still felt a bit badly paced.
@loke6664 same with the new seasons of MST3K, the pacing and the writing just undercuts any kind of reaction. Compare it with Rifftrax, which has the original MST3K team, and is still so perfectly timed.
@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 Yeah, it is almost everywhere. Futurama didn't even go that far with it, when I started to watch the new season I first just noted something was off a bit and it took almost the entire first episode before I noticed that the pacing was a bit faster then earlier episodes. Other shows, like Simpsons have increased the pacing far more and spits jokes all the time but that screws up the comedy, no time for the setup, just run the punchline and go to the next one. It is easiest to note in shows that have been running for a long time since you can compare the new episodes with the old. The fast pacing can work in certain shows, Rick and Morty pulled it off well for at least 2 seasons even if the quality dropped like a rock after that but older shows aren't built that way and it doesn't work in many newer either. I do think the new Futurama season still works reasonable well, they had a couple of good episodes and the rest of the episodes besides the weird anthology worked even if they weren't anything really special but I think they should manage the pacing better. It is fine to suddenly yank up the pacing to 11 now and then but most of the run time need to be slow enough to build up the jokes and characters. The weakest of all the episodes was the anthology and it was also the episode with the fastest pacing, I don't think that is a coincident.
For a show that did NOT need any further episodes by any means, I think we got it pretty good so far. We have to view this as a standard season of television where we'll always have a couple banger episodes, a few entertaining ones, and a couple that feel like they're there because they had to make an episode count. This felt like another season of Futurama, not a reboot, not a re-imagining, not a handing over the IP to writers who want to take everything in a new direction. It didn't needlessly repeat old jokes too often, it didn't misunderstand the humor. Watching these episodes next to other more recent ones they feel consistent. If anything, I'd say other than retiring Leela and Fry's will they/won't they schtick for a grown up relationship and having Amy and Kiff be parents, things felt safe. Not necessarily in a bad way. Any problems I'd see are the dreaded "you've been writing this for so long" paradox where they can't be to bold, but they can't alienate a fanbase with fan fic-y ideas in their heads that don't match up. And frankly, even the most dreaded episode wasn't that bad. Clearly the Explovid episode was the writers venting, and if you put that stuff aside, the episode was okay, and THANKFULLY not a 20 minute "this was written 2 years ago" full rant or obnoxious "hey! Remember when we all had to stay inside and did crazy things?" tight five. However, I have to say the underrated gem was the Sensitivity Training episode. Take out the lame buzzwords that are somehow still in our lexicon and we got a Zapp episode that had it coming for 20 years. We might even see character development on a character that didn't even have a sensitive moment past his debut episode. And a nice, subtle jab at those whining about how "politically correct" the army has supposedly gotten. Something that says, sure, there's a thin veneer of progressiveness, but we're still going to drop bombs on people and screw the locals.
Agree with a lot here, but I feel like good television should no longer have an issue with "padding out an episode count," etc. Short 10-episode seasons are the norm, now; just a couple of bleh episodes is like a fifth of your series
@@InaneBlatherPodcast If we want to get technical, this is a streaming season. They had 20 episodes in production, but split them in half to make multiple seasons. Some shows are still on the season to season basis, but Futurama is all batch season all the way. Though it doesn't really so far seem to hurt the series like a lot of batch shows do. At least they don't have one long continuing story where they constantly have to keep the audience in suspense, and everything feels like it could have been resolved with a couple episodes.
I really felt like the true season finale should have seen Fry propose to Leela but at the same time, I'm glad they didn't rush into doing that. Their proposal and wedding need to be big deals and be treated with a lot of gravity.
I suspect that the proposal comes near the beginning of next season and the marriage in Otherwise. Mostly because the definitions of the words lend themselves to it. Meanwhile was a series finale that was named and made with sort of a meta-cognition that Futurama is a show that always comes back because it resonates through time. Hence the title "in the intervening time" (definition of meanwhile) it showed us what was going on between the finale and revival. Which is why picking up the show seconds after meanwhile and not resetting the status quo was so important. Then you have "Otherwise" in difference to those that have been considered. If it's truly being written as the potential end of this run: the title basically screams "we can't do meanwhile again but we can do something else." If Futurama ends on Fry and Leela getting married it's one of the possible perfect Futurama endings. Because it is the ultimate sealing of the deal of the "Will they won't they" and it transforms the emotional core of the show. So much like meanwhile you have a significant ending focused on progressing the story, but it leaves it open to another future return. Marriage the ending of a season of one's life (which is why it's a good stopping point) but it's also the beginning of another (which is why it's the perfect jump off point for more.)
Pretty much otherwise only the last episode is actually good. Unfortunately even that is weakened from a total lack of good humor, being a retread of a better episode, and just no one caring(especially Fry) that Bender casually just says goodbye to his universe.
"Hesitant to go back after such a satisfying conclusion". The previous conclusion was wonderful, but somehow this feels deeply ironic. After all, that "satisfying conclusion" was about how the characters, who had already lived long full lives, were more than happy to go back and have one more go around 💜
Maybe I was asking for too much but I think Fry and Leela’s relationship was really underplayed in this Season. The only real step we got was them moving in together which was nice but I had hoped for more. Perhaps we’ll see a grander step in the next Season?
1. Related to the items you viewed 2. I know what you did next xmas 3. All the way down 4. How the west was 1010001 5. The impossible stream 6. Children of the lesser bog 7. Zapp gets cancelled 8. The prince and the product 9. Parasites regained 10. Rage against the vaccine
I found All the Way Down to be super artificial. The moments at the end didn’t feel earned. I feel like Futurama’s Hulu season had solid highs but devastatingly low lows. Before the new season aired, I was happy for Fry and Leela’s relationship holding continuity but the way it has been written it feels weak and cheesy. They’ve been together for 50(?) years maybe more or less, but the way the relationship is written they feel like an extremely new couple and it bothers me.
Was it a mistake? No. Was it perfect? No. Was it horrible? No. It was not what we deserved but what we got. I am glad it came back but I would also like to see a proper send off at the end of the next season.
@@reckoner1913better then what we got? A big reason this show refuses to die is because of the dedicated fan base, if there was no interest the show wouldn’t have come back 4 times now. I’d say we deserved C rank or better for every episode. An average run with some great episodes, not a meh run with some great and some bad episodes like we got.
Most people who are committed to a long running series should expect episodes that aren’t mid to low quality if the series creators don’t want fans to leave. People deserve their time not being wasted and watching something that can be considered quality of they’re being asked to give their time and commitment to a show someone made.
My ranking: 1. All The Way Down 2. Related to Items You’ve Viewed 3. I Know What You Did Next Xmas 4. Zapp Gets Cancelled 5. How the West Was 1010001 6. Parasites Regained 7. The Impossible Stream 8. Children of a Lesser Bog 9. Rage Against the Vaccine 10. The Prince and the Product
The more I think about it and rewatch the season, the more I feel like All the Way Down singlehandedly justifies the revival for me. It's maybe not on the same level as some of the show's best episodes, but I really loved it, and it makes me excited to see more from these writers.
I always loved Futurama and my kids grew up on it, I had set up a Circus in 1992 and we toured a lot, In Jan 2000 I got a mobile data card for my laptop and when we could we watched episodes when on the road, when they started coming out on DVD I got all as they were available, my kids liked the Simpsons but loved Futurama and still do. I haven't seen any of these new ones and this is my first look at them, I will find a way to see them, I don't do any online streaming stuff like Nettflix / Disney etc. and I live on a boat so don't have a physical connection so will find some way to see them. Thanks for a brilliant talk / walk through has been a laugh and not spoiled it in anyway, it is 3am here in the UK now on my boat and at 56 my memory has gone down big time
I don’t know if I can say the revival season was a mistake just yet because we still have 10 more episodes of the ordered 20 episodes left to judge the season as a whole. There were a lot of little and big stuff that I’ve liked in this run so far and while there were some episodes that didn’t quite stick the landing in their execution, the episodes I did enjoy were enough to make me glad to see this show come back and I’m willing to see what the rest of the season has in stored. The Comedy Central run of Futurama proved its worth to me with episodes like “The Late Philip J. Fry”, “Lethal Inspection”, “Murder on the Planet Express”, or “The Bots and the Bees” and given that this first half of season 8 (aka season 11) has some solid entries like “I Know What You Did Next Xmas” and “Children of a Lesser Bog”, I’m still in high spirits for the rest of the season (aka season 12). My ranking for this revival season (so far): 1. I Know What You Did Next Xmas 2. Children of a Lesser Bog 3. Related to Items You’ve Viewed 4. All The Way Down 5. The Impossible Stream 6. Parasites Regained 7. Rage Against the Vaccine 8. How the West Was 1010001 9. Zapp Gets Canceled 10. The Prince and the Product
Well the season finale alone was worth it. That simulation episode is an instant classic. In a sense this season reminds me of the Comedy Central seasons, where it's mostly not living up to the original run, but then you get a brilliant episode here and there like The Late Philip J. Fry that makes it all worth it even if I do wish every episode could be of that quality.
I love Futurama with all my heart. But I never made it past the fourth episode of this new revival and that makes me sad. I will obviously give it another shot, but it wasn’t it for me on the first viewing. I’m really hoping the second viewing will redeem it.
It was kind of a mistake. Yes, I am extremely disappointed that Futuramas most proper series finale didn't stay the finale. These episodes aren't bad most of them are just very meta. That Zapp Brattigen episode was clearly a parody of the Pepe Le Pew controversy. I wouldn't be surprised if Pepe was an influenced by Zapp. The Covid episode streamed at the time when that should be considered old news by now . The only episode that's worth it is the one with Kif and Amy's kids because of the 20 year wait both in the episode and in real life but that could've worked as a a stand alone special
Ok, I haven't watched this video yet, but I just want to say. The revival definitely wasn't a mistake. While there were a couple bad episodes. Most of them were good and felt like classic Futurama. I'd wanted it to comeback for years and it was definitely worth it!
This is weird to say (because I’m not fully sure exactly what I mean) but I felt the characters were kind of absent in the new show. There were a couple of moments when they felt exactly like they used to, and in those few seconds I was suddenly a kid again and it was everything I wanted. But that those moments were so rare (maybe a few seconds total) made me really feel the absence of the characters. I genuinely don’t know what specifically was missing tho, it’s not like it isn’t character driven or they don’t have stories or arcs, but it felt somehow closer to family guy where the characters are a cast for the plot rather than people
I definitely feel like I get this too! The plots seem a bit surface level and I cannot for the life of me point my finger on why. i guess it feels more like a character saying a line instead of people interacting. Especially in Children of a Lesser Bog. Kif didn't speak unless it was plot relevant. I feel like he coulda naturally interjected a few times. They seem to be puppets to move the plot along instead of feeling like an organic scene.
The ending of the final episode is one of the first episodes of a show that made me cry. The fact that the simulation basically ends the second before they kiss means that they shared their final moments just wanting to love each other, but it cuts off just before, meaning that they can never do that. It means they're just...gone. Nothing can bring them back. Like Farnsworth said, it would take centuries for that moment to happen. And I would guess that Planet Express isn't around after literal Centuries, if not millennia.
"but it cuts off just before, meaning that they can never do that." From their perspective it doesn't. Even if every second of their universe takes a century in the one we're more accustomed to, to them it would just seem normal. For all we know, every second in the universe we're accustomed to takes a thousand years in the one above that. Also, I find it amusing that they didn't double down on the "physics really does seem like a simulation" bit even harder. For example, reality has a distance and duration below which the concepts lose meaning - the Planck units. Which kind of resemble a resolution and tick rate, like say Minecraft has.
For 24 years I've been waiting for answers on why Leela was titled 'The Other' and now Nibbler is just a house pet does that mean we won't get any answers?
Every single problem they've come up against in the revival has been either self-inflicted or something. They already had a solution for a seasons before. Sometimes they even change Canon because we've seen nibblers litter box be changed before and now suddenly you can't? Their lack of ideas for new episodes is showing through.
The revival was definitely NOT a mistake. Some really good episodes came out of it, such as All The Way Down and I Know What You Did Next Xmas. Instant classics for me.
For those wondering at 38:46 when he pauses. The sound effect is from the game Virtual On Oratorio Tangram for the Sega Dreamcast/Xbox 360. The sound effect plays in the game whenever you select something in the title screen.
Actually, I think the revival it's on a pretty decent path so far. It may have it's ups and downs like the previous revivals but it's been doing amazing for the first 10 episodes, And here's hoping that the next episodes will be awesome as well!
About the finale: This is something that I like about Futurama, that we don't have to take everything too seriously. Some series have a very hard lore or a very soft lore; and Futurama is right in a sweet spot. You can think of the last episode as either being the crew we know being part of a simulation, or just one of the simulations at some point or another. For all it's worth, next episode we still have the crew we know, and we don't need to care which is which. (Similar situation as in the next season fashion centered episode's ending) An example of where it would matter is something like Rick & Morty where the Jerry* being from another dimension was actually discussed, and later confirmed. Futurama doesn't need to do that as it has that "middle ground". I'm glad we can still have these kind of sci fi stories without having to worry about where the lore would fit.
I’m glad it came back! It’s funny to me that I agree with your 2-6-2 breakdown, though even RATV and the anthology episode had some good bits. This honestly felt stronger than the CC start. I’m excited for more!
I think the major problem is that, we are sort of slowly moving pass these kind of series in adult animated media. I mean, in the last few years we gotten; Castlevania, Primal, Pantheon (thank god for season 2), Final Space, Invincible, Arcane and Legend of Vox Machina. Yes Futurama has their story continuous at time and isn't a sitcom series, but no one truly age and focus mainly on the comedy and social commentary. But with these shows, they feel like they are taking a chance where comedy isn't the true focus (Final Space has comedy but we know it's story base) and want to tell stories that isn't just gorey for the sake of shock value. Futurama is still an incredible show, but I don't feel much for it if they aren't willing to take chances and changes things up. Hell, in the Simpsons right now, Comic Book Guy got married and Moe has a fiancé (right now), and Homer stopped strangling Bart. The biggest change here that Fry and Leela are dating and Amy has kids now. But beside that, nothing truly shake up the status quo or a reason to bring back the series. Hell, Tiny Toons Looniversity changed up the formula where it's more story base and the characters, while familiar, has some changes to different themselves from their old selves. At least, that's my two cents on the matter
I really like this revival so far. I think the jokes are stronger than the Comedy Central run although I did like those too. Like most people tho so far there hasn’t been a great episode yet. I’m excited to see more and hopefully they get another 20 and maybe a movie. Ranking Below. 1. I know what you did next X-mas 2. Children of a Lesser Bog 3. How the West was 1010001 4. Related to Items you’ve viewed 5. Rage Against the Vaccine 6. Zapp gets Cancelled 7. The Impossible Stream 8. Parasites Regained 9. All the way down 10. The Prince and the Product I need to rewatch to make sure my ranking is accurate to how I actually feel
I think my feelings are a bit mixed on the new season, but overall i think im happy for the revival Its kinda like Tariq said on Cartoons that Curse, like, what are we getting thats supposed to pay us back for the show dismissing its last ending, and we got I Know What You Did Next X-Mas and All The Way Down which are both steller episodes so that make the whole thing worth it Frankly im just happy every episode didnt turn out to be Mid like we where afraid of 3 episodes in
I could see both sides but to me, was it a mistake? Well...yes. The one good thing that Futurama had when it came to the show being constantly canceled was that it gave the writers and new writers a chance at providing a new perspective giving way to innovative stories effectively slowing down the inevitable, series rot. The main problem is the fact that "series rot" is inevitable. We've gotten so used to Futurama for the most part, producing well rounded seasons due to the fact that the show was constantly on coincidental hiatus (in a sense) that even shows spaced out eventually lose their spark and Futurama is no exception to that. This Hulu season is mid at best. The premise no longer makes sense. We were exploring the unknown future along with Fry, seeing sights and technology we could only dream of. It was fun watching the crew travel on their delivery excersions discovering new cultures along with the comedy using subtle pop culture references instead of being so in your face. However this season the viewer is stuck mostly in the planet express office with obvious topical jokes that do not often land. The entire time I'm watching this I'm wondering why they aren't making deliveries, and why some of the characters are reduced to flat one liners or quips like Bender. I couldn't even finish the season off (I was 2 episodes away) because it was so boring and unfunny I couldn't waste my time anymore waiting for it to "get good". Also the most important thing that hurts this season is that biggest obstacles for the individual characters, whether that's character development or an outside source, like Fry and Leela's will they won't they drama, has not only been reseolved they do kinda back track a little to give them a story. Before time was frozen Fry was going to propose to Leela then the events of the episode happened and everything was set back to the status quo. Why have them start will moving in together as boyfriend and girlfriend if before the events of time stopping, Fry had intention of asking Leela to marry him? I'm not saying that the moving together shouldn't be a plot, I'm just wondering why their relationship regressed. It's a bit odd. The series should've ended on a high like the series finale. The season it aired wasn't perfect, but it was leaps and bounds better than the Hulu series which felt like a shell of Futurama. Anyways that's just my opinion on the matter.
I remember watching “Meanwhile” when it aired on Comedy Central and when they go into the tube to go around again, it went right into the title sequence and played the first episode and it was the absolutely best television I’ve ever seen.
Yes it was a mistake, as much as I love Futurama, the OG series ended perfectly. Literally no reason to bring it back. Really didn't care for the first 10 eps, but HOPEFULLY the last 10 will prove me wrong! Ans make Futuramas return worth it
3:26 I absolutely love that still image of Roberto sticking up BillionaireBot at knifepoint, and he's just got a chute built into his torso that money flies out of 🤣
59:50 professor Farnsworth never seems to remember that by Fry becoming his own grandfather, he's also descended from him, since he's also his brothers grandfather, who became Farnsworths many greats grandfather
I personally think so. You can tell some of the voice actors are struggling at points, the lows are really low especially with only 10 episodes now. It's not the worst thing ever (Thundercats Roar) but I don't think it was needed
Sorry but I'm going to be the guy that comments not watching. Yes it was the biggest fucking mistake to bring Futurama back. They ended the show twice and it was perfect, the new season is just modern TV garbage.
Yeah, so far... I'm very non-plussed about this revival. The Comedy Central revival brought me some of my favorite episodes, more than one that beat out all the originals. But, so far, the Hulu series hasn't done anything for me. The closing bit of Children of a Lesser Bog was good... and there was plenty that was 'fine'. But nothing felt like explorations the writers were waiting to tell, and justified the revival. I'm still here for more, we'll see how the rest of the series shapes up. But.. eh...
Plus - THE WRITERS ARE GETTING FAIR PAY NOW. That will presumably have a meaningful effect on the scripts, presuming they have more time to polish the other 10 episodes now and just have a better work/life balance
I don't doubt for a second that Futurama will be renewed for a ninth broadcast season. From a purely ratings-based POV, the show is Hulu's biggest animated series by far and its viewership count rivals that of Only Murders in The Building (their most-watched show). Hell, Hulu probably already has the team working on the next set of episodes now that the strike is over!
This was the first season of Futurama I couldn't finish. It just felt like it exists bc it can exist but all the passion and ideas have dried up. I think it was a mistake, *Meanwhile* was a perfect finale.
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nah. though i will admit i'm kinda sad that meanwhile wasn't the finale anymore (it was one of the best series finales i've ever seen), these episodes have been alright too, at least most of them. seeing these guys again at all was awesome. while there were a couple episodes i didn't like, there were also a couple i adored (ESPECIALLY all the way down). reminds me of the beginning of the comedy central run having a rocky start but eventually getting better. also i'm a sucker for all the cute casual fry and leela stuff, like fry calling leela honey and leela thinking fry is cute in his uniform. :)
I’m only 19 and got into futurama like maybe not even 3 years ago so every episode could’ve been shit but getting to experience being excited for a new futurama episode every week was great
Ive been a fan of this show since day one. Ive watched the entire series multiple times. Hulu failed. This comeback was a major disappointment and shouldnt have been brought back.
Maybe I was just too young to get them (I mean Nixon has been a recurring character the whole time) but the direct mentions of the modern things they're parodying takes me out of the episode so hard it actively damages the whole season for me. Like, talking directly about Covid, practically namedropping Dune saying Bitcon and Etherium and the whole Momazon name put me in a state I couldn't enjoy chunks of the episodes. The episodes where they didn't do that like All The Way Down and I Know What You Did Next Xmas were great so I hope they tone it down a lot in future.
I wouldn’t say this revival was a mistake at all! In fact, I’d consider this the Diamond in the rough amongst the many reboots, revivals, and other cheap pieces of nostalgia bait we’ve been getting lately. Granted, I could not even keep watching “Rage Against the Vaccine” (although I might just rewatch it when the issues surrounding COVID are FAR in the rear-view mirror compared to now) but I can confidently say that “All The Way Down” might be one of, if not my favorite Futurama episode of ALL TIME. Also this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I like “The Prince and the Product” in a so bad it’s good kind of way.
I feel like at this point they just need to make Hermes, LaBarbara and Barbados an official thrupple or something, I think it'd be cool to have a openly poly relationship but also I think it'd be funny to recon all the stuff that looked like cheating to an onlooker to be them *fucking with everyone* by pretending, and it'd still have plenty of chances for Hermes and Barbados to continue their rivalry, without things ending up too bitter feeling...But this is coming from someone who's solution to 90% of problems in fiction is "make it poly" so maybe I'm biased.
To be honest I was never satisfied with the original ending on comedy Central. The show has evolved beyond just fry and Leila and I feel like the final episode should involve more than that. The fry and leala to me was just an underlying plot point and to have the final episode not have the rest of the cast have a main spot in it. Plus the implication meant it would have been an endless loop which I hate story's that end that way
exactly. I feel fry and Leela's relationship being the main ended in the Fox era and closed in the movie era the original run was about a Lost boy in the future meeting someone familiar with his emotions. someone truly lost and regaining them. but after the movies it is just a comedy series. I hate to say it but most of Futurama is just flanderized Futurama. nerd jokes. Futurama is just a better Big Bang theory. it just exists to cover topics and sprinkle a story in the background. it's definitively just a nerd show. Star Trek combined with Big Bang theory.
it's my favorite show but the story ended when the original show ended. Futurama lost something. it went from a serial and depressing show with a lot of hunor to soften the blow; to a flanderized sitcom
I made my peace with Futurama ending 10 years ago. It ended for me. The new episodes are ok. Every time it's revived it drops in quality by a noticeable amount, so I have less and less interest in it.
Maybe it's because I was a homeschooled kid during the original run of the show, but I don't recall them doing as much topical episodes back then as much as they did in each concurrent revival. It doesn't help that the joke format for much of the show these days is as follows: Low effort joke, followed by another character explains the joke or why it's funny. Also the Covid episode felt 3 years too late and another example of satire being dead during post-2016
Man that finale gets better and better the more I dwell on especially that last shot of simulated Fry and Leela. My ranking off the top of my head is probably this. 1. All The Way Down 2. I Know What You Did Next Xmas 3. Related to Items You’ve Viewed 4. Children of a Lesser Bog 5. Zapp Gets Canceled 6. The Impossible Stream 7. How the West Was 1010001 8. Parasites Regained 9. Rage Against the Vaccine 10. The Prince and the Product I think the next batch of episodes will fully prove that the revival was worth it for anyone still doubting.
Yeah. Exactly the thing I was afraid was going to happen happened. Futurama ended on a heart warming episode a decade ago just before it started to become stale and absurd. And while the new show is not outright terrible, it is incredibly mediocre, half hearted, and is just putting out vibes of a completely unnecessary project. It’s pretty noticeable in the voice acting and delivery whenever characters speak. I just get the same feeling I got from Mallory Archer right before Jessica Walter died. The planet Express crew should have been left in the past as legends, not slowly commercialized into obscurity.
Honestly I thought It felt kinda soulless from the first episode, which was kinda funny cause that's the episode shitting on revivals. My girlfriend liked the first few episodes but even she was bored by the 4th.
I was super stoked for the movies. Not as stoked for the renewal following the success of the movies. Theyre not addressing how careful theyre being, its self branding
I will say I was very apprehensive when I first heard the news of a Hulu revival, however after the whole season aired I can't say I saw this as a total waste. It's a very solid return, with only one dud in the bunch (which isn't even in my bottom 15 of the whole series mind you), and a season finale that genuinely may have cracked my top ten in the whole series. Hope they keep the momentum going for the next ten.
I feel like the majority of people who are gonna complain about the revival are the same people who said the simpsons should have been canceled after season 3. I will also say so many people who I see complaining about futurama, the simpsons, and disenchantment are the same people who exclusively watch anime, the people who exclusively watch bad family guy clones, and the people who have never watched the shows, but have made up their mind because it just normal to hate on the simpsons because it's been around for so long and no other reasons.
As someone who has grown up watching this show I’m kinda sad to see it back. I remember watching that final episode when I was like seven and I remember being so so happy that fry and Lela finally got together. I liked what I’ve seen of the new series but it honestly should have stayed dead. (It also made my complete series box set not that anymore)
I was highly disappointed in the Hulu era of Futurama. One or two were reminiscent of classic Futurama, but it felt so flat and dead. Maybe it would have been better as another movie?
The problem with bringing back the cartoon sci-fi comedy television show Futurama is the show Futurama theorized that the future (other than high-tech stuff) would be socially, environmentally, politically, etc, no different than the way it was before. In the world of sci-fi plenty of ideas of the future were made about the future, none of them truly optimistic 'cause....let's be real about it here, an actual utopia is an impossibility. So there were future theories that things would be better but with some dark elements here and there (Back to the Future 2). There were theories that the future would be a negative utopia (Brave New World, Gattaca, Demolition Man, etc). And there were the classic ideas of future dystopias, either through corporate and/or government tyranny or combined with an entropy-level society ever crumbling at the cracks (1984, Blade Runner, Akira, A Clockwork Orange, etc). The thing is though, that with how things are going presently, way too many rights have been eroded already in replace of rampant authoritarianism (the surveillance state, the cancel culture/misinformation/disinformation etc attack on free speech, etc to etc ad nauseam) and there's many signs that things could easily gravitate to a high-tech totalitarian state in and of itself (Project 2025 ring a bell?) So there's 2 routes Futurama can take at this point. They could stick to their late 1990s world view that the future will ever be the same, not truly great in every respect but not tyrannical either, which would make their product seem very dated...or they could actually show how the current political, social, etc climate really is, which would mean they'd be admitting that they were wrong and things have become dystopic. To sum it up, Futurama is ultimately dated at this point.
honestly, Futurama becoming more dystopian would be fitting since that's been an undertone since the beginning, its just sidelined for comedy's sake. But I don't think it'd work for Futurama though since its style of humor doesn't have nearly the bite to work in a truly dark, dystopian setting.
@@triplehelix3207 it would be interesting for Matt Groening to have Futurama try to go in that direction. It would be quite darkly irreverent like Treehouse of Horror in a kind of hyperdrive so to speak. The show by Seth McFarlane American Dad is like that, the humor often goes there. I don't watch the show all that much in the long run cause it's Seth McFarlane and I don't care for the Seth McFarlane propaganda he'll riddle in. But as far as the humor goes, it tends to be up my alley. If Futurama did go that dark it would also be a kind of extra form of irreverence. Like it's not only making light of mainstream thought but taking satirical jabs on grim real world situations too, a satire on life, on reality if you will. It would sort of remind me of the sketch comedy show from way back in the day, In Living Color, it was featured from the early 90s to mid, possibly started in 1989 but even that show has its limits because it was relevant for its time, it wasn't mocking the capitalistic high-tech trajectory that makes the world worse. And of course taking place in a corroded world of crime, warring corporate authoritarianism, cyborgs, aliens, and etc in all its cyberpunk glory would also be very, very interesting. Too interesting for TV as the TV watching audience would generally rather not watch something with such an inspired, volatile, unique, subversive, violently dark, unreal-level imaginative quality to it but instead the opposite, trash, is what makes the selling point on television, look no farther than Family Guy, 16 and Pregnant, and Jerry Springers popularity. But oh, to quote the immortal words of Professor Farnsworth, "A man can dream though."
It really didnt need to come back. Watched them, had no pull to rewatch, cant remember half of them. Just sort of makes you feel a bit sad when you see it's lost the magic. That and you can hear the age in Billy West's voice, his delivery is slower, and it makes it seem like every joke line he's delivering is meant to be funnier and more impactful than it actually is
This was very interesting to hear a wholesome vlogger talk about this topic. All the other Snow White videos are snarky rage bait channels who never have anything nice to say. It was a nice lesson to see the points delivered diplomatically, like suggesting PR lessons for Rachael.
this season was/in completely unnecessary and mid at best and it saddens me to see some many of you settle for a level of quality that is so far below what futurama initially was
It felt like the writers were all fans of the series, not fully on the same nerd level as the previous. Definitely geek, but not nerd. The simulation was the only one that felt like "True" [whatever that might mean] Futurama. And that was penned by an old creator. Also, I noticed an odd trend where they seemed to dumb Leela down a little. Overall, it was rocky but watchable.
Post your ranking of the new season!
1. All The Way Down
2. I Know What You Did Next Xmas
3. Children of a Lesser Bog
4. Related to Items You’ve Viewed
5. The Impossible Stream
6. Zapp Gets Cancelled
7. Parasites Regained
8. How the West Was 1010001
9. Rage Against the Vaccine
10. The Prince and the Product
Agreed.
In what tier would you put all the way down?
Right on the Money man. 😊😊😊😊
If you have time, could you do a review for each episode of the new season of Solar Opposites?
That would be really fun!
1. All The Way Down
2. I Know What You Did Next Xmas
3. Related To Items You Viewed
4. The Impossible Stream
5. Zapp Gets Cancelled
6. Parasites Regained
7. Rage Against The Vaccine
Are the only good episodes in no specific order.
I am disappointed that they vaguely kept Fry and Leelas relationship but not Marianne and Zoidberg. I think they could absolutely have kept her around even if just in references and Zoidberg still work.
Retconning her existence or how powerful her relationship with Zoidberg was kinda hurt
Absolutely. I hope that gets touched on i. The next batch of episodes
Who cares it’s zoidburg
@@nothanks9503Hermes? Is that you???!
@@diabolivirtusen-tavares-ea4392 tally me banana
yeah, that was lame. zoid deserves that relationship.
I’m not gonna lie. I liked it better when they left thier finale on Meanwhile where it made look like they were in a loop.
I remember that finale. The next episode to air after that was the pilot episode
Exactly, a complete loop of a story that continues ad infinitum. Fry always delivers pizzas, falls into the pod and after many years of adventures, grows old with Leela and "goes around another time."
It opened up more possibilities for more episodes.
me too.
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It was easily the best episode to leave it on
I still can't get over how right All The Way Down felt for Futurama. It wasn't just the sci-fi elements, it wasn't just the math jokes, it wasn't just the absolutely stunning end with Fry and Leela. It was all of that with character driven jokes and experimental animation sequences. It wasn't just consistently funny, it felt like a classic Futurama episode.
Wrong! typical woman. the 19th was a mistake
@user-jc8ez9iw2jwhat is wrong with you?
(Late) but so real it gave me so much hope for his next season thats airing now and…I think it’s such a big step up so far!
This may sound like a strange silver lining, but I feel like with these 10 episodes they already burned through all of the dated topics that they couldn’t cover in the 10 years they were gone. Covid, cancellations, Amazon, crypto… I can’t really think of many other topics. Hopefully this means that the later episodes will be a little more timeless
EDIT: Oh, I guess you also make this point later in the video. Guess I commented too quickly haha
They could have an episode where Trump runs against Nixon for president of earth and has Zapp as his running mate
@@Speeds_Gaming_CornerOh god please no
@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner I don't want another reminder that Trump exists.
@@Axolotl_Man oh god please yes
@@Speeds_Gaming_Corner It would be Zapp, he's basically Trump. He wouldn't exactly run against Nixon tho because they're both Republicans, (but he would shit all over him like Trump did) maybe he runs against one of the main cast/a respected politician and ends up winning even though he get fewer votes.
I would not say a mistake. This is like the first season of the Comedy Central season. A bit of growing pains as the writers get their stride, but there were definitely some gems in there. The last two episodes were my favorite. Can't wait to see what comes next.
You liked the anthology?😂
I was highly skeptical at the start but they came in strong with brilliant humour and character building, fell off a little towards the end but finished strong
@@danielsmokesmidsWe all have our own opinions
@@danielsmokesmidsthe anthologies are very much a highly divided debate. I've always liked them, I've never personally got the issues with them.
@@danielsmokesmids The rubber ducks song was funny, the animation for Windos was beautiful, killer Zoidberg is a fun concept, and science spell made me chuckle. Plus, I like anthology stories in general.
Loved episode 10. Was great to see David X. Cohen really embracing the reason why I love his writing so much. With all the high brow sci-fi and meta-textual analysis he never lost track of the characters emotions and the human experience.
I’m happy with what they did and to be honest I don’t have many complaints. I’m glad to get more episodes of a show I love so deeply and it shows that the creators do too.
Clickbaity title by 2cellos to work the algorithm.
"Mistake" might be a bit much, because there are a lot of moments I'm glad exist (Kif and Amy, the Xmas and finale episodes, the Old West 4 way shootout), but I think the writers were way too ambitious. Most episodes do not need more than an A plot and a B plot, but most of the episodes this season had way too many things with too many characters going on, which wrecks the normal pacing.
Classic Futurama, and even most of the CC era, was sharp and funny, but there was also space to let the jokes sit before going to the next one.
Yeah, it has a bit of the Rick and Morty syndrome... Most shows had it the last few years, where they try to cram in more story and jokes in each episode. It works in some shows but in others it gets a bit much, The Simpsons had the same problem for some years now. I think they believe all modern viewers have ADHD and must be bombarded with jokes all the time.
Futurama still had less of it then most other shows have 2023, but at times it still felt a bit badly paced.
@loke6664 same with the new seasons of MST3K, the pacing and the writing just undercuts any kind of reaction. Compare it with Rifftrax, which has the original MST3K team, and is still so perfectly timed.
@@CinnamonGrrlErin1 Yeah, it is almost everywhere. Futurama didn't even go that far with it, when I started to watch the new season I first just noted something was off a bit and it took almost the entire first episode before I noticed that the pacing was a bit faster then earlier episodes.
Other shows, like Simpsons have increased the pacing far more and spits jokes all the time but that screws up the comedy, no time for the setup, just run the punchline and go to the next one.
It is easiest to note in shows that have been running for a long time since you can compare the new episodes with the old.
The fast pacing can work in certain shows, Rick and Morty pulled it off well for at least 2 seasons even if the quality dropped like a rock after that but older shows aren't built that way and it doesn't work in many newer either.
I do think the new Futurama season still works reasonable well, they had a couple of good episodes and the rest of the episodes besides the weird anthology worked even if they weren't anything really special but I think they should manage the pacing better.
It is fine to suddenly yank up the pacing to 11 now and then but most of the run time need to be slow enough to build up the jokes and characters. The weakest of all the episodes was the anthology and it was also the episode with the fastest pacing, I don't think that is a coincident.
For a show that did NOT need any further episodes by any means, I think we got it pretty good so far. We have to view this as a standard season of television where we'll always have a couple banger episodes, a few entertaining ones, and a couple that feel like they're there because they had to make an episode count. This felt like another season of Futurama, not a reboot, not a re-imagining, not a handing over the IP to writers who want to take everything in a new direction. It didn't needlessly repeat old jokes too often, it didn't misunderstand the humor. Watching these episodes next to other more recent ones they feel consistent. If anything, I'd say other than retiring Leela and Fry's will they/won't they schtick for a grown up relationship and having Amy and Kiff be parents, things felt safe. Not necessarily in a bad way. Any problems I'd see are the dreaded "you've been writing this for so long" paradox where they can't be to bold, but they can't alienate a fanbase with fan fic-y ideas in their heads that don't match up. And frankly, even the most dreaded episode wasn't that bad. Clearly the Explovid episode was the writers venting, and if you put that stuff aside, the episode was okay, and THANKFULLY not a 20 minute "this was written 2 years ago" full rant or obnoxious "hey! Remember when we all had to stay inside and did crazy things?" tight five.
However, I have to say the underrated gem was the Sensitivity Training episode. Take out the lame buzzwords that are somehow still in our lexicon and we got a Zapp episode that had it coming for 20 years. We might even see character development on a character that didn't even have a sensitive moment past his debut episode. And a nice, subtle jab at those whining about how "politically correct" the army has supposedly gotten. Something that says, sure, there's a thin veneer of progressiveness, but we're still going to drop bombs on people and screw the locals.
Agree with a lot here, but I feel like good television should no longer have an issue with "padding out an episode count," etc. Short 10-episode seasons are the norm, now; just a couple of bleh episodes is like a fifth of your series
@@InaneBlatherPodcast If we want to get technical, this is a streaming season. They had 20 episodes in production, but split them in half to make multiple seasons. Some shows are still on the season to season basis, but Futurama is all batch season all the way. Though it doesn't really so far seem to hurt the series like a lot of batch shows do. At least they don't have one long continuing story where they constantly have to keep the audience in suspense, and everything feels like it could have been resolved with a couple episodes.
@@mightyfilm true!
Garbage
I really felt like the true season finale should have seen Fry propose to Leela but at the same time, I'm glad they didn't rush into doing that. Their proposal and wedding need to be big deals and be treated with a lot of gravity.
I suspect that the proposal comes near the beginning of next season and the marriage in Otherwise. Mostly because the definitions of the words lend themselves to it.
Meanwhile was a series finale that was named and made with sort of a meta-cognition that Futurama is a show that always comes back because it resonates through time. Hence the title "in the intervening time" (definition of meanwhile) it showed us what was going on between the finale and revival. Which is why picking up the show seconds after meanwhile and not resetting the status quo was so important.
Then you have "Otherwise" in difference to those that have been considered. If it's truly being written as the potential end of this run: the title basically screams "we can't do meanwhile again but we can do something else." If Futurama ends on Fry and Leela getting married it's one of the possible perfect Futurama endings. Because it is the ultimate sealing of the deal of the "Will they won't they" and it transforms the emotional core of the show. So much like meanwhile you have a significant ending focused on progressing the story, but it leaves it open to another future return. Marriage the ending of a season of one's life (which is why it's a good stopping point) but it's also the beginning of another (which is why it's the perfect jump off point for more.)
Well, this is only the first half of the season. There's still 10 episodes left.
I felt it wasn’t necessary but even this latest season had some gems so I wanna see if the next 10 episodes improve!
People saying next season ends with a proper send off….to the next Futurama movies you mean?
It pretty much just had one good episode. Even the sort of decent episode gets ruined by writing out Zoibergs girlfriend at its expense.
Pretty much otherwise only the last episode is actually good. Unfortunately even that is weakened from a total lack of good humor, being a retread of a better episode, and just no one caring(especially Fry) that Bender casually just says goodbye to his universe.
I'm definitely seeing improvement so far!
"Hesitant to go back after such a satisfying conclusion". The previous conclusion was wonderful, but somehow this feels deeply ironic.
After all, that "satisfying conclusion" was about how the characters, who had already lived long full lives, were more than happy to go back and have one more go around 💜
I guess we're watching that next go around
Only half of the episodes were good, but none of them felt like they needed to be made
This
That’s how I felt. It didn’t feel the same. I’ve watched futurama since a kiddo. My boyfriend was a much bigger fan of the new season than me.
Maybe I was asking for too much but I think Fry and Leela’s relationship was really underplayed in this Season. The only real step we got was them moving in together which was nice but I had hoped for more.
Perhaps we’ll see a grander step in the next Season?
What would be a grander step? Children? They're happy and together, what more should we expect?
@@pepesilvia429sex and romance 😅
@@pepesilvia429fr like they still did more then the og show tbh
Even with Meanwhile it got reversed at the end pretty much
1. Related to the items you viewed
2. I know what you did next xmas
3. All the way down
4. How the west was 1010001
5. The impossible stream
6. Children of the lesser bog
7. Zapp gets cancelled
8. The prince and the product
9. Parasites regained
10. Rage against the vaccine
I found All the Way Down to be super artificial. The moments at the end didn’t feel earned.
I feel like Futurama’s Hulu season had solid highs but devastatingly low lows.
Before the new season aired, I was happy for Fry and Leela’s relationship holding continuity but the way it has been written it feels weak and cheesy. They’ve been together for 50(?) years maybe more or less, but the way the relationship is written they feel like an extremely new couple and it bothers me.
Was it a mistake? No. Was it perfect? No. Was it horrible? No. It was not what we deserved but what we got. I am glad it came back but I would also like to see a proper send off at the end of the next season.
In what deranged universe can you work out what quality of Futurama you "deserve"?
i disagree, the quality of production is good sure, but the plots were just plain bad
@@reckoner1913in Universe A. Or maybe Universe 1.
Or the Mongooses! Yeah, the fighting mongooses.
@@reckoner1913better then what we got? A big reason this show refuses to die is because of the dedicated fan base, if there was no interest the show wouldn’t have come back 4 times now.
I’d say we deserved C rank or better for every episode.
An average run with some great episodes, not a meh run with some great and some bad episodes like we got.
Most people who are committed to a long running series should expect episodes that aren’t mid to low quality if the series creators don’t want fans to leave.
People deserve their time not being wasted and watching something that can be considered quality of they’re being asked to give their time and commitment to a show someone made.
My ranking:
1. All The Way Down
2. Related to Items You’ve Viewed
3. I Know What You Did Next Xmas
4. Zapp Gets Cancelled
5. How the West Was 1010001
6. Parasites Regained
7. The Impossible Stream
8. Children of a Lesser Bog
9. Rage Against the Vaccine
10. The Prince and the Product
This is the best ranking I've seen. I'm not a big fan of the Children of A Lesser Bog episode, but so many other people keep putting it in their top 3
The more I think about it and rewatch the season, the more I feel like All the Way Down singlehandedly justifies the revival for me. It's maybe not on the same level as some of the show's best episodes, but I really loved it, and it makes me excited to see more from these writers.
I always loved Futurama and my kids grew up on it, I had set up a Circus in 1992 and we toured a lot, In Jan 2000 I got a mobile data card for my laptop and when we could we watched episodes when on the road, when they started coming out on DVD I got all as they were available, my kids liked the Simpsons but loved Futurama and still do.
I haven't seen any of these new ones and this is my first look at them, I will find a way to see them, I don't do any online streaming stuff like Nettflix / Disney etc. and I live on a boat so don't have a physical connection so will find some way to see them.
Thanks for a brilliant talk / walk through has been a laugh and not spoiled it in anyway, it is 3am here in the UK now on my boat and at 56 my memory has gone down big time
I don’t know if I can say the revival season was a mistake just yet because we still have 10 more episodes of the ordered 20 episodes left to judge the season as a whole. There were a lot of little and big stuff that I’ve liked in this run so far and while there were some episodes that didn’t quite stick the landing in their execution, the episodes I did enjoy were enough to make me glad to see this show come back and I’m willing to see what the rest of the season has in stored. The Comedy Central run of Futurama proved its worth to me with episodes like “The Late Philip J. Fry”, “Lethal Inspection”, “Murder on the Planet Express”, or “The Bots and the Bees” and given that this first half of season 8 (aka season 11) has some solid entries like “I Know What You Did Next Xmas” and “Children of a Lesser Bog”, I’m still in high spirits for the rest of the season (aka season 12).
My ranking for this revival season (so far):
1. I Know What You Did Next Xmas
2. Children of a Lesser Bog
3. Related to Items You’ve Viewed
4. All The Way Down
5. The Impossible Stream
6. Parasites Regained
7. Rage Against the Vaccine
8. How the West Was 1010001
9. Zapp Gets Canceled
10. The Prince and the Product
Well the season finale alone was worth it. That simulation episode is an instant classic. In a sense this season reminds me of the Comedy Central seasons, where it's mostly not living up to the original run, but then you get a brilliant episode here and there like The Late Philip J. Fry that makes it all worth it even if I do wish every episode could be of that quality.
I love Futurama with all my heart. But I never made it past the fourth episode of this new revival and that makes me sad. I will obviously give it another shot, but it wasn’t it for me on the first viewing. I’m really hoping the second viewing will redeem it.
I'd give it another chance. The 5th episode is where I started to like the new season. I was unsure til that point
If you haven’t watch the new season! It’s pretty good so far
It was kind of a mistake. Yes, I am extremely disappointed that Futuramas most proper series finale didn't stay the finale. These episodes aren't bad most of them are just very meta. That Zapp Brattigen episode was clearly a parody of the Pepe Le Pew controversy. I wouldn't be surprised if Pepe was an influenced by Zapp. The Covid episode streamed at the time when that should be considered old news by now . The only episode that's worth it is the one with Kif and Amy's kids because of the 20 year wait both in the episode and in real life but that could've worked as a a stand alone special
More futurama with the original writers is never a mistake.
Enough said
@@foodwich2132 I did not see that with this season, so I will have to agree to disagree.
@@foodwich2132 Ageist much?
Yes, all "woke" writers are shit. They are the reason why movies and TV shows are so shit these days.
@@foodwich2132 i'll take that over some 24 year old anti-white communist intersectional feminist
Ok, I haven't watched this video yet, but I just want to say. The revival definitely wasn't a mistake. While there were a couple bad episodes. Most of them were good and felt like classic Futurama. I'd wanted it to comeback for years and it was definitely worth it!
This is weird to say (because I’m not fully sure exactly what I mean) but I felt the characters were kind of absent in the new show. There were a couple of moments when they felt exactly like they used to, and in those few seconds I was suddenly a kid again and it was everything I wanted.
But that those moments were so rare (maybe a few seconds total) made me really feel the absence of the characters.
I genuinely don’t know what specifically was missing tho, it’s not like it isn’t character driven or they don’t have stories or arcs, but it felt somehow closer to family guy where the characters are a cast for the plot rather than people
I definitely feel like I get this too! The plots seem a bit surface level and I cannot for the life of me point my finger on why. i guess it feels more like a character saying a line instead of people interacting. Especially in Children of a Lesser Bog. Kif didn't speak unless it was plot relevant. I feel like he coulda naturally interjected a few times. They seem to be puppets to move the plot along instead of feeling like an organic scene.
yeah bad writing or something@@llamawalrushybrid I wish they would've worked on these episodes for years it felt like it was all rush ED
The ending of the final episode is one of the first episodes of a show that made me cry. The fact that the simulation basically ends the second before they kiss means that they shared their final moments just wanting to love each other, but it cuts off just before, meaning that they can never do that. It means they're just...gone. Nothing can bring them back. Like Farnsworth said, it would take centuries for that moment to happen. And I would guess that Planet Express isn't around after literal Centuries, if not millennia.
It was though, see the cavern on the green/first Time Machine episode. At least 10,000 years or more it was an in place ruin.
@@LeoWisconsinson I don't think there would be electricity provided if the entirety of New New York was in ruin
"but it cuts off just before, meaning that they can never do that."
From their perspective it doesn't. Even if every second of their universe takes a century in the one we're more accustomed to, to them it would just seem normal. For all we know, every second in the universe we're accustomed to takes a thousand years in the one above that.
Also, I find it amusing that they didn't double down on the "physics really does seem like a simulation" bit even harder. For example, reality has a distance and duration below which the concepts lose meaning - the Planck units. Which kind of resemble a resolution and tick rate, like say Minecraft has.
For 24 years I've been waiting for answers on why Leela was titled 'The Other' and now Nibbler is just a house pet does that mean we won't get any answers?
They could maybe reverse it or do time travel stuff idk (I’m coping)
Only problem I have with any Futurama material : not enough focus Zoidberg... he's just so insane - I love him..
It's refreshing to see a video that is passionate, well made and thought out, but DOESN'T have adverts.
Amazing 😁
Every single problem they've come up against in the revival has been either self-inflicted or something. They already had a solution for a seasons before. Sometimes they even change Canon because we've seen nibblers litter box be changed before and now suddenly you can't? Their lack of ideas for new episodes is showing through.
Honestly somewhat. The reconning and the ham fist attempts at "modern topics" just felt forced personally.
The revival was definitely NOT a mistake. Some really good episodes came out of it, such as All The Way Down and I Know What You Did Next Xmas. Instant classics for me.
For those wondering at 38:46 when he pauses. The sound effect is from the game Virtual On Oratorio Tangram for the Sega Dreamcast/Xbox 360. The sound effect plays in the game whenever you select something in the title screen.
Actually, I think the revival it's on a pretty decent path so far. It may have it's ups and downs like the previous revivals but it's been doing amazing for the first 10 episodes, And here's hoping that the next episodes will be awesome as well!
About the finale: This is something that I like about Futurama, that we don't have to take everything too seriously. Some series have a very hard lore or a very soft lore; and Futurama is right in a sweet spot. You can think of the last episode as either being the crew we know being part of a simulation, or just one of the simulations at some point or another. For all it's worth, next episode we still have the crew we know, and we don't need to care which is which.
(Similar situation as in the next season fashion centered episode's ending)
An example of where it would matter is something like Rick & Morty where the Jerry* being from another dimension was actually discussed, and later confirmed. Futurama doesn't need to do that as it has that "middle ground".
I'm glad we can still have these kind of sci fi stories without having to worry about where the lore would fit.
I’m glad it came back! It’s funny to me that I agree with your 2-6-2 breakdown, though even RATV and the anthology episode had some good bits. This honestly felt stronger than the CC start. I’m excited for more!
This video made me realise I didn't actually watch the episodes and was just using them as background noise.
I think the major problem is that, we are sort of slowly moving pass these kind of series in adult animated media. I mean, in the last few years we gotten; Castlevania, Primal, Pantheon (thank god for season 2), Final Space, Invincible, Arcane and Legend of Vox Machina. Yes Futurama has their story continuous at time and isn't a sitcom series, but no one truly age and focus mainly on the comedy and social commentary. But with these shows, they feel like they are taking a chance where comedy isn't the true focus (Final Space has comedy but we know it's story base) and want to tell stories that isn't just gorey for the sake of shock value.
Futurama is still an incredible show, but I don't feel much for it if they aren't willing to take chances and changes things up. Hell, in the Simpsons right now, Comic Book Guy got married and Moe has a fiancé (right now), and Homer stopped strangling Bart. The biggest change here that Fry and Leela are dating and Amy has kids now. But beside that, nothing truly shake up the status quo or a reason to bring back the series. Hell, Tiny Toons Looniversity changed up the formula where it's more story base and the characters, while familiar, has some changes to different themselves from their old selves. At least, that's my two cents on the matter
What sets Futurama’s Covid episode to South Parks is that South Park was able to get it out quicker and it really isn’t relevant right now
I really like this revival so far. I think the jokes are stronger than the Comedy Central run although I did like those too. Like most people tho so far there hasn’t been a great episode yet. I’m excited to see more and hopefully they get another 20 and maybe a movie. Ranking Below.
1. I know what you did next X-mas
2. Children of a Lesser Bog
3. How the West was 1010001
4. Related to Items you’ve viewed
5. Rage Against the Vaccine
6. Zapp gets Cancelled
7. The Impossible Stream
8. Parasites Regained
9. All the way down
10. The Prince and the Product
I need to rewatch to make sure my ranking is accurate to how I actually feel
I think my feelings are a bit mixed on the new season, but overall i think im happy for the revival
Its kinda like Tariq said on Cartoons that Curse, like, what are we getting thats supposed to pay us back for the show dismissing its last ending, and we got I Know What You Did Next X-Mas and All The Way Down which are both steller episodes so that make the whole thing worth it
Frankly im just happy every episode didnt turn out to be Mid like we where afraid of 3 episodes in
I could see both sides but to me, was it a mistake? Well...yes. The one good thing that Futurama had when it came to the show being constantly canceled was that it gave the writers and new writers a chance at providing a new perspective giving way to innovative stories effectively slowing down the inevitable, series rot. The main problem is the fact that "series rot" is inevitable. We've gotten so used to Futurama for the most part, producing well rounded seasons due to the fact that the show was constantly on coincidental hiatus (in a sense) that even shows spaced out eventually lose their spark and Futurama is no exception to that. This Hulu season is mid at best. The premise no longer makes sense. We were exploring the unknown future along with Fry, seeing sights and technology we could only dream of. It was fun watching the crew travel on their delivery excersions discovering new cultures along with the comedy using subtle pop culture references instead of being so in your face. However this season the viewer is stuck mostly in the planet express office with obvious topical jokes that do not often land.
The entire time I'm watching this I'm wondering why they aren't making deliveries, and why some of the characters are reduced to flat one liners or quips like Bender. I couldn't even finish the season off (I was 2 episodes away) because it was so boring and unfunny I couldn't waste my time anymore waiting for it to "get good". Also the most important thing that hurts this season is that biggest obstacles for the individual characters, whether that's character development or an outside source, like Fry and Leela's will they won't they drama, has not only been reseolved they do kinda back track a little to give them a story. Before time was frozen Fry was going to propose to Leela then the events of the episode happened and everything was set back to the status quo. Why have them start will moving in together as boyfriend and girlfriend if before the events of time stopping, Fry had intention of asking Leela to marry him? I'm not saying that the moving together shouldn't be a plot, I'm just wondering why their relationship regressed. It's a bit odd.
The series should've ended on a high like the series finale. The season it aired wasn't perfect, but it was leaps and bounds better than the Hulu series which felt like a shell of Futurama.
Anyways that's just my opinion on the matter.
Might be the earliest I've been to one of your videos! Happy it came back even if there were some misses - excited to hear your take!
I dont understand why comedies feel the need to "get with the times" when the original comedy was just fine as it is.
NO! this season was amazing! It gave us consistent leela and fry, amy's children and an amazing xmas episode! Can't wait For more!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
All The Way Down was the standout episode for me. I’m glad Futurama’s back and hope they stick around for many years.
Billy West is 70 now and it shows in Fry's voice. We might get a couple more series, but we'll have to see.
I remember watching “Meanwhile” when it aired on Comedy Central and when they go into the tube to go around again, it went right into the title sequence and played the first episode and it was the absolutely best television I’ve ever seen.
Yes it was a mistake, as much as I love Futurama, the OG series ended perfectly. Literally no reason to bring it back.
Really didn't care for the first 10 eps, but HOPEFULLY the last 10 will prove me wrong! Ans make Futuramas return worth it
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I absolutely love that still image of Roberto sticking up BillionaireBot at knifepoint, and he's just got a chute built into his torso that money flies out of 🤣
59:50 professor Farnsworth never seems to remember that by Fry becoming his own grandfather, he's also descended from him, since he's also his brothers grandfather, who became Farnsworths many greats grandfather
I personally think so. You can tell some of the voice actors are struggling at points, the lows are really low especially with only 10 episodes now. It's not the worst thing ever (Thundercats Roar) but I don't think it was needed
That 1% Scruffy for the kids parentage is hilarious, can't believe I missed that.
Sorry but I'm going to be the guy that comments not watching. Yes it was the biggest fucking mistake to bring Futurama back. They ended the show twice and it was perfect, the new season is just modern TV garbage.
Watched it all. Thank you for doing all this. You even helped me point out some things I myself have not noticed. You are awesome.
I'm going to be honest nothing really wowed me about this new season and I was disappointed that Zoidberg having a girlfriend was completely ignored
I KNOW!! What the shit happen to that!?
Yeah, so far... I'm very non-plussed about this revival. The Comedy Central revival brought me some of my favorite episodes, more than one that beat out all the originals. But, so far, the Hulu series hasn't done anything for me. The closing bit of Children of a Lesser Bog was good... and there was plenty that was 'fine'. But nothing felt like explorations the writers were waiting to tell, and justified the revival. I'm still here for more, we'll see how the rest of the series shapes up. But.. eh...
Plus - THE WRITERS ARE GETTING FAIR PAY NOW. That will presumably have a meaningful effect on the scripts, presuming they have more time to polish the other 10 episodes now and just have a better work/life balance
Hopefully next season gives fair pay to good writers
@astralnaught9431 >implying there are good writers
I don't doubt for a second that Futurama will be renewed for a ninth broadcast season. From a purely ratings-based POV, the show is Hulu's biggest animated series by far and its viewership count rivals that of Only Murders in The Building (their most-watched show). Hell, Hulu probably already has the team working on the next set of episodes now that the strike is over!
This was the first season of Futurama I couldn't finish. It just felt like it exists bc it can exist but all the passion and ideas have dried up. I think it was a mistake, *Meanwhile* was a perfect finale.
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nah. though i will admit i'm kinda sad that meanwhile wasn't the finale anymore (it was one of the best series finales i've ever seen), these episodes have been alright too, at least most of them. seeing these guys again at all was awesome. while there were a couple episodes i didn't like, there were also a couple i adored (ESPECIALLY all the way down). reminds me of the beginning of the comedy central run having a rocky start but eventually getting better.
also i'm a sucker for all the cute casual fry and leela stuff, like fry calling leela honey and leela thinking fry is cute in his uniform. :)
I believe the Hulurama era is just an optional expansion pack. You can watch it if you’d like and it won’t ruin the experience.
@dorothyallspice1862 couldn't that also technically apply to the Comedy Central seasons?
I’m only 19 and got into futurama like maybe not even 3 years ago so every episode could’ve been shit but getting to experience being excited for a new futurama episode every week was great
Ive been a fan of this show since day one. Ive watched the entire series multiple times. Hulu failed. This comeback was a major disappointment and shouldnt have been brought back.
Maybe I was just too young to get them (I mean Nixon has been a recurring character the whole time) but the direct mentions of the modern things they're parodying takes me out of the episode so hard it actively damages the whole season for me.
Like, talking directly about Covid, practically namedropping Dune saying Bitcon and Etherium and the whole Momazon name put me in a state I couldn't enjoy chunks of the episodes.
The episodes where they didn't do that like All The Way Down and I Know What You Did Next Xmas were great so I hope they tone it down a lot in future.
Yeah, hard to enjoy a show about the far future when they're making already dated references
If they can produce more episodes like All The Way Down then this run can absolutely go somewhere
Did they explain the voice changes in the characters due to age? Amy doesn't sound similar at all and Fry is sounding rougher
I wouldn’t say this revival was a mistake at all! In fact, I’d consider this the Diamond in the rough amongst the many reboots, revivals, and other cheap pieces of nostalgia bait we’ve been getting lately. Granted, I could not even keep watching “Rage Against the Vaccine” (although I might just rewatch it when the issues surrounding COVID are FAR in the rear-view mirror compared to now) but I can confidently say that “All The Way Down” might be one of, if not my favorite Futurama episode of ALL TIME.
Also this is probably an unpopular opinion, but I like “The Prince and the Product” in a so bad it’s good kind of way.
I feel like at this point they just need to make Hermes, LaBarbara and Barbados an official thrupple or something, I think it'd be cool to have a openly poly relationship but also I think it'd be funny to recon all the stuff that looked like cheating to an onlooker to be them *fucking with everyone* by pretending, and it'd still have plenty of chances for Hermes and Barbados to continue their rivalry, without things ending up too bitter feeling...But this is coming from someone who's solution to 90% of problems in fiction is "make it poly" so maybe I'm biased.
The title was kinda klickbaity, no? Obvously it wasn't a mistake, we already know that you loved a lot out of this.
asking and answering a question many fans are posing is not click bait
I feel like an important thing is;
The passion is here, clearly. So let 'em cook!
I'm just happy that we're getting more of this series. The quality has been about as good as it ever was.
thank you for not cutting out hypno-toads subscribe it feels very fitting to "randomly" pop up and repeat
To be honest I was never satisfied with the original ending on comedy Central. The show has evolved beyond just fry and Leila and I feel like the final episode should involve more than that. The fry and leala to me was just an underlying plot point and to have the final episode not have the rest of the cast have a main spot in it. Plus the implication meant it would have been an endless loop which I hate story's that end that way
exactly.
I feel fry and Leela's relationship being the main ended in the Fox era and closed in the movie era
the original run was about a Lost boy in the future meeting someone familiar with his emotions. someone truly lost and regaining them.
but after the movies it is just a comedy series.
I hate to say it but most of Futurama is just flanderized Futurama.
nerd jokes.
Futurama is just a better Big Bang theory. it just exists to cover topics and sprinkle a story in the background.
it's definitively just a nerd show. Star Trek combined with Big Bang theory.
it's my favorite show but the story ended when the original show ended.
Futurama lost something. it went from a serial and depressing show with a lot of hunor to soften the blow; to a flanderized sitcom
I made my peace with Futurama ending 10 years ago. It ended for me. The new episodes are ok. Every time it's revived it drops in quality by a noticeable amount, so I have less and less interest in it.
I just thought it was very mediocre……
Maybe it's because I was a homeschooled kid during the original run of the show, but I don't recall them doing as much topical episodes back then as much as they did in each concurrent revival. It doesn't help that the joke format for much of the show these days is as follows: Low effort joke, followed by another character explains the joke or why it's funny. Also the Covid episode felt 3 years too late and another example of satire being dead during post-2016
Legit have heard nothing about this new futurama season.
Bruh hulu sucks
Man that finale gets better and better the more I dwell on especially that last shot of simulated Fry and Leela. My ranking off the top of my head is probably this.
1. All The Way Down
2. I Know What You Did Next Xmas
3. Related to Items You’ve Viewed
4. Children of a Lesser Bog
5. Zapp Gets Canceled
6. The Impossible Stream
7. How the West Was 1010001
8. Parasites Regained
9. Rage Against the Vaccine
10. The Prince and the Product
I think the next batch of episodes will fully prove that the revival was worth it for anyone still doubting.
Yeah. Exactly the thing I was afraid was going to happen happened. Futurama ended on a heart warming episode a decade ago just before it started to become stale and absurd. And while the new show is not outright terrible, it is incredibly mediocre, half hearted, and is just putting out vibes of a completely unnecessary project. It’s pretty noticeable in the voice acting and delivery whenever characters speak. I just get the same feeling I got from Mallory Archer right before Jessica Walter died. The planet Express crew should have been left in the past as legends, not slowly commercialized into obscurity.
Honestly I thought It felt kinda soulless from the first episode, which was kinda funny cause that's the episode shitting on revivals. My girlfriend liked the first few episodes but even she was bored by the 4th.
The reboot…when only one episode is decent……..
I was super stoked for the movies. Not as stoked for the renewal following the success of the movies.
Theyre not addressing how careful theyre being, its self branding
I will say I was very apprehensive when I first heard the news of a Hulu revival, however after the whole season aired I can't say I saw this as a total waste. It's a very solid return, with only one dud in the bunch (which isn't even in my bottom 15 of the whole series mind you), and a season finale that genuinely may have cracked my top ten in the whole series. Hope they keep the momentum going for the next ten.
I feel like the majority of people who are gonna complain about the revival are the same people who said the simpsons should have been canceled after season 3. I will also say so many people who I see complaining about futurama, the simpsons, and disenchantment are the same people who exclusively watch anime, the people who exclusively watch bad family guy clones, and the people who have never watched the shows, but have made up their mind because it just normal to hate on the simpsons because it's been around for so long and no other reasons.
More Futurama is never a mistake
As someone who has grown up watching this show I’m kinda sad to see it back. I remember watching that final episode when I was like seven and I remember being so so happy that fry and Lela finally got together. I liked what I’ve seen of the new series but it honestly should have stayed dead. (It also made my complete series box set not that anymore)
I was highly disappointed in the Hulu era of Futurama. One or two were reminiscent of classic Futurama, but it felt so flat and dead. Maybe it would have been better as another movie?
The problem with bringing back the cartoon sci-fi comedy television show Futurama is the show Futurama theorized that the future (other than high-tech stuff) would be socially, environmentally, politically, etc, no different than the way it was before. In the world of sci-fi plenty of ideas of the future were made about the future, none of them truly optimistic 'cause....let's be real about it here, an actual utopia is an impossibility. So there were future theories that things would be better but with some dark elements here and there (Back to the Future 2). There were theories that the future would be a negative utopia (Brave New World, Gattaca, Demolition Man, etc). And there were the classic ideas of future dystopias, either through corporate and/or government tyranny or combined with an entropy-level society ever crumbling at the cracks (1984, Blade Runner, Akira, A Clockwork Orange, etc). The thing is though, that with how things are going presently, way too many rights have been eroded already in replace of rampant authoritarianism (the surveillance state, the cancel culture/misinformation/disinformation etc attack on free speech, etc to etc ad nauseam) and there's many signs that things could easily gravitate to a high-tech totalitarian state in and of itself (Project 2025 ring a bell?) So there's 2 routes Futurama can take at this point. They could stick to their late 1990s world view that the future will ever be the same, not truly great in every respect but not tyrannical either, which would make their product seem very dated...or they could actually show how the current political, social, etc climate really is, which would mean they'd be admitting that they were wrong and things have become dystopic. To sum it up, Futurama is ultimately dated at this point.
honestly, Futurama becoming more dystopian would be fitting since that's been an undertone since the beginning, its just sidelined for comedy's sake. But I don't think it'd work for Futurama though since its style of humor doesn't have nearly the bite to work in a truly dark, dystopian setting.
@@triplehelix3207 it would be interesting for Matt Groening to have Futurama try to go in that direction. It would be quite darkly irreverent like Treehouse of Horror in a kind of hyperdrive so to speak. The show by Seth McFarlane American Dad is like that, the humor often goes there. I don't watch the show all that much in the long run cause it's Seth McFarlane and I don't care for the Seth McFarlane propaganda he'll riddle in. But as far as the humor goes, it tends to be up my alley. If Futurama did go that dark it would also be a kind of extra form of irreverence. Like it's not only making light of mainstream thought but taking satirical jabs on grim real world situations too, a satire on life, on reality if you will. It would sort of remind me of the sketch comedy show from way back in the day, In Living Color, it was featured from the early 90s to mid, possibly started in 1989 but even that show has its limits because it was relevant for its time, it wasn't mocking the capitalistic high-tech trajectory that makes the world worse. And of course taking place in a corroded world of crime, warring corporate authoritarianism, cyborgs, aliens, and etc in all its cyberpunk glory would also be very, very interesting. Too interesting for TV as the TV watching audience would generally rather not watch something with such an inspired, volatile, unique, subversive, violently dark, unreal-level imaginative quality to it but instead the opposite, trash, is what makes the selling point on television, look no farther than Family Guy, 16 and Pregnant, and Jerry Springers popularity. But oh, to quote the immortal words of Professor Farnsworth, "A man can dream though."
It’s arguably the worst season to date. It was overly topical and boring. Just didn’t have the same feeling like the previous versions of the show.
It really didnt need to come back. Watched them, had no pull to rewatch, cant remember half of them. Just sort of makes you feel a bit sad when you see it's lost the magic. That and you can hear the age in Billy West's voice, his delivery is slower, and it makes it seem like every joke line he's delivering is meant to be funnier and more impactful than it actually is
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This was very interesting to hear a wholesome vlogger talk about this topic. All the other Snow White videos are snarky rage bait channels who never have anything nice to say. It was a nice lesson to see the points delivered diplomatically, like suggesting PR lessons for Rachael.
I only disliked 3 episodes so I consider it a success
Its not about the fans getting the reference its about the writers keeping up a standard with keeping the world alive and consistenet
this season was/in completely unnecessary and mid at best and it saddens me to see some many of you settle for a level of quality that is so far below what futurama initially was
It felt like the writers were all fans of the series, not fully on the same nerd level as the previous. Definitely geek, but not nerd.
The simulation was the only one that felt like "True" [whatever that might mean] Futurama. And that was penned by an old creator.
Also, I noticed an odd trend where they seemed to dumb Leela down a little.
Overall, it was rocky but watchable.
Groening should focus on disenchantment. Futurama is as boring now as any of the other basic bitch cartoon sitcoms and its sad.
disenchantment got cancelled.
@@iamsobadateverything really? I hadnt heard
But they can still come back. I mean futurama was cancelled a few times, no?
@@malekartorian3054 idk the conclusion makes it pretty hard to continue