ANTISPIN | Young Players Nightmare 😈| Dr. Neubauer A-B-S | Table Tennis Match
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2022
- Match highlights against the current 2th ranked U15 and 170th of the Italian Ranking.
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ANTISPIN with EXTREME disruptive effect:
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Which Andrea has the more extreme effect between the black edition and the rubber video above?
and which one is more comfortable to use to attack using the backhand?
SG black has a slightly better disruptive effect.
Regarding which one is the most comfortable to attack, I would tell you the one in this video, but it is a personal opinion based on my experience. It may not necessarily be the same for you 😉
@@AndreaAschi What type of ABS rubber is used in this video and how thick is the sponge?
It's a A-B-S (1) topsheet.
The sponge is the 2.3mm pink one by SpinlabItalia.
A few years ago I started with the A-B-S. I was looking for an optimization and found it with the "Transformer" from 'Der Materialspezialist' in Germany (Note: It has to be the Transformer! (because there is also a version called “Extra slow” it' s too slow :-)).
btw The thicker the sponge, the slower the transformer is.
He actually handled the antispin relatively well. It was the complete lack of counter attack from the forehand that was the problem in my view.
the opponent kept serving sidespin even in the last set (big mistake n.1), also couldn't play around the antispin (lack of experience imho). It was indeed a nice match
No he didn’t. He kept complaining like a huge bitch
Anit Spin is very difficult for the younger players. But than there is a point when you realise you just can play full power and without spin
You are right because they are like robots. Most of them are unable to change tactics or do something different.
He has a good level but very inexperienced against anti. Nice match! 👍
What racket are you using? Blade and rubber
just a hint: antispin has one very nasty aspect to it. it slows down the ball and changes its trajectory. so you do not jut have to deal with spin issue, but also with unusually short falling ball, this is hard for someone that plays a lot of regular drills, the feed of their anticipation and the right positioning for the sweet spot hitting point. once you take that element out and use it well tactically u always have an advantage. against experienced and versatile players it would get very hard, especially i recognised how high you put the ball back with that antispin backhand. that could shoot back at you dangerously. very well played though.
I 100% agree
Very tough match
Congratulations Andrea, well done
Thank you! 😃
Grande Andrea! Ben giocata 😉💪🏻🏓
Grazie Lucio!! ho vinto perchè ho un rovescio migliore! ahahah
@@AndreaAschi Andrea dai vorrei avere metà del tuo dritto 😂
this guy' suffering helps me inside , thanks and thanks for this guy with inverted rubbers ❤
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Omg, the one with the antispin has a mind-blowing illegal serve, ball resting on fingers, starting the serve with ball inside the table,, his left arm blocking the view of the ball and that is the less vertical throw in TT history.
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They both serve completely illegal. But it seems like its accepted everywhere now. So sad...
hey, excellent video. I have a question, why dont you try to recieve with the anti spin on the forehand? that would give you more diversity to make depective your game, like fabian akerstrom, with long pimples on forehand.
Hi Joaquin!
Do you mean to return the serve twiddling the racket? That's a good idea! All the best anti-spin players do that...i'm not good at it. ;)
excelente juego.... Felicidades 👏🏻👏🏻
Good match...btw what blade you use and what is your forehand rubber?
Stiga Carbonado 190 blade and Donic Bluestorm Z2 max ;)
You should use your backhand topspin more often. Antispin can be really nasty if the antispin player also has a decent backhand. A good example would be Luka Mladenovic. I personally prefer more of a Kreanga-like playstyle, but that's the beauty of table tennis. There are so many different playstyles. Truls Möregårdh is a great example as well with his crazy counter smashes and weird nospin-blocks. A few years ago a lot of people said he wouldn't be able to compete on that level with his grip and look how far he got already.
One of the most creative player with anti is Amirezza Abbasi. He isn't that good defender, that's his big downside. But he plays mostly at the table, turns the blade sides, can block and spin with the sharp side (with backhand when turned the blade) and can semi-attack (side push) with anti.
Once you understand how it works, those anti-spin player are by far the easiest to beat. I remember the last time I played a match after stopping 5 year and absolutely 0 training, I beat a guy like this of my former (trained) level. But I agree, when you are young it's a nightmare.
Bravo!
Hi mate, can you tell us the rubber on your forehand side ? Thx like all your videos
Hi Anton!
I play with a Donic Bluestorm Z2 max 😉
Close match! I believe that even though you had trouble reading the anti returns, you could have easily attacked his half-long serves during the match. If you didn't feel comfortable with his anti-block, then you could have given him heavy spin into his forehand.
Great! Which camera are using? Thanks!
Hi! I record with a phone, Samsung S20 FE.
Is the qualilty good enough?
@@AndreaAschi the quality is amazing!
@@Andrew_Tomash I bought it recently just to make better videos, I'm glad that the quality is good!! :)
For someone being bad vs anti he did pretty well. Stupid serves, if he can´t follow them up, no point of the sidespin. He keep playing defensive vs your anti instead of lifting.
Como consideras la abs 2 en 2,3 en una madera defensiva?
Este tipo de anti funciona mejor con maderas más rígidas y rápidas.
Con una madera defensiva tendrías más control pero un juego más predecible. Te arriesgas a tener una combinación demasiado lenta. Si eso es lo que quieres entonces prueba. 😉
A couple more games and the opponent would get used to the anti-spin. And then on departure) And so, as always, it's great.
Luckily it was not a best to 7 set match! :D
tight game good game for both
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The nice thing with young players is that, however talented they are, most of them have never played against antitop players. At equivalent level they are two times easier to beat.
Exactly, better for us! ;)
Good numbers. It's anti-effective. Congratulations Andrea 👏👏👏🧿
Thank you Mesut!! ❤
Keep it simple vs anti/long pips. Just serve underspin, then observe carefully opponent if he twindles his bat or nor. Then do 3rd attack or push. Works most of the time.
What rubbers you use on BH and FH? great win;)
Donic Bluestorm Z2
Dr. Neubauer ABS
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It's very annoying when there are so many unforced errors in a game. Happens to me in VR Table Tennis all the time, where it's even harder to read the spin without hand and wrist tracking.
Have you changed the ball color on settings? I feel it helped me a bit to read the spin on Eleven.
Ooof that was too close for comfort. He looks like quite a high lvl player though, thankfully he only plays vs orthodox styles 🙌🏻 the reversal on some of those blocks were filthy btw 🔥🏓💪🏻🏓🔥
He is a youth national team player...strong but not used to play against pimples/anti. Good for me! :D
Hi andrea
i have a qst please
i'm playing with long pips and i think to change to anti
i use my fore hand to win the point like u
so what rubber do you recomended to try
my blade is tibhar force pro
Hi Michael!
Since you are used to playing with long pips, I suggest you try Dr. Neubauer ABS 2 PRO. It is the one that comes closest in terms of speed.
@@AndreaAschi Thanks for replying
is it has a good spin reversal?
@@AndreaAschi and how you glue your anti with glue sheet or without
More than anything your opponent really needs to practice service, 3rd ball against a player with anti spin. The most important thing you do when you serve to someone with anti or pips is to think before you serve "if this goes to the anti it's coming back with this spin" so you know exactly how to play it.
Young players don't want to play against LP/Antispin user in training. These are the results! 😀
Congrats Andrea, good match... Easy and powerful forehand topspin...
Did you already try a ABS 2 EVO?
Thank you Danilo!!
I haven't tried it yet but i'll do it soon ;)
Danilo carvalho, i already tried it, and its pretty cool anti, the spinreversal as also the discruptive effect are on very high level, also this anti is really slow ( i use the 2.3mm sponge version) It's much slower than A.B.S 2 Soft. Also one guy told me that this anti is very very durable if i would compare it to the others, control is on the incredible level, i really recommend to try that glanti.
@@e4syybeatbox637 thank you so much!
Today I first played with my brand new ABS2 Evo 2,1mm...
Control is great but It's hard to me to block topspins yet... I hope to learn it, at the same level as Andrea do! Ha ha ha
@@danilocarvalho4827 yee, you will get it soon! This anti is specific, even at blocking topspins, so you need some time to learn the block on this rubber ;)
Bonjour Andréa, tu joues avec quel bois et quel revêtement ABS ou ABS 2, merci
Hi! I use Stiga Carbonado 190 blade and Dr Neubauer A-B-S. ;)
@@AndreaAschi thanks, good game
Excuse me Andréa, le revêtement ABS que tu utilises il fait quel épaisseur. 1,2 mm ou 1,5 mm ou 1,8mm thanks.
Bonjour Andréa, c'est mieux le ABS 1,8mm ou le ABS 2 soft en 2,3. Lequel se rapproche le plus de ton revêtement, merci
@@killping59 I use ABS but without the original sponge.
My Anti is more similar to an ABS 2 EVO 2.5mm
La palestra di Asti 👍, ho fatto la preparazione alle nazionali in quella palestra
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Bel match 👏👏👏
Duroooo Gabry!! La palestra di Isola ogni tanto mi porta anche bene 😜
Hahaah menomale💪🔥
Как всегда здорово!
Противник в конце сменил стратегию, но это ему не помогло, слишком поздно.)
ну так лезут со своими радиоуправляемыми ракетками к нормальным игрокам. играйте между собой на здоровье.
@@warehouse1360 нельзя назвать нормальным игрока, который истерит по поводу чужих накладок.)
Каким инвентарем играеш
Is anti the same as long pips?
They are similar!
Hi Andrea.. Great Match.. iam very impressed of the Spin reversal.. which Ball did. you use in this Match.. the best Ball in my Option for the anti is the tsp cp 40+.. But it is sad that this Ball is Running out.. Greetings from Germany
Hi Carsten! The ball is a Stag 3*...there are better balls for antispin! ;)
@@AndreaAschi comunque Andrea tu sei la persona gentile e umile e anche intelligente! E scusa ancora) io non volevo essere cattivo o sto heater non lo penso ne anche! Io ho scritto in un modo si aggressivo ma ma con un smail 😅😁 prrndi così
@@TT4you non preoccuparti. Sono consapevole che prima o poi qualcuno mi insulterá! 😂
a play anti supper stop 1.5mm by Sauer Troger and I play same Long piple. Can you teach me some technical with anti rubber, i only push again under spin.
The advice I can give you is to try to keep the angle of the racket as perpendicular to the table as possible with every stroke you execute.
Since the angle varies according to the overall speed given by the anti and blade you may need to change the angle according to the playing situation. You will only understand this by experimenting in practice sessions.
So let me get this straight, are you saying that some players have bats that make the ball spin and some players have bats that take the spin off, and the players that make the ball spin don't like you to use the bat that takes their spin off, have I got it right?
it doesnt take the spin of but the player gets the reverse spin than what he expect from the stroke. when the if you play topspin and the anti player blocks the ball there will be a lot of backspin on it. so you will get your own spin back.
can someone pls explain to me what antispin is. I don't understand
I link you an article written by my friend Alvaro! Look at the antispin section 😉
racketinsight.com/table-tennis/choosing-a-table-tennis-rubber/
mantappp
So the rubber basically reverses the spin?
Exactly! 😉
@@AndreaAschi Quite the opposite? It preserves the spin that's on the ball already.
Nightmare good antispin
Guns how to play vs antiapin how this rubber works
It's like mirror.
Backspin on anti-spin= top spin
Top spin = backspin
Good luck
Болел за молодого.
Have you tried attacking with the anti, it isn't difficult at all and players get very confused
It's something I'm working on!
Antispin aggressive strokes are very effective but the timing on the ball has to be perfect. 😉
@@AndreaAschi From my experience you need to do a lot more of a drive motion, I used to play pips, now inverted but when tried anti on friend I was very natural to it he says. The only problem in match is confidence, and with the drive motion you need to follow through more than normal backhand and add more power on the wrist.
@@AndreaAschi Also forgot to meetion the more explosive you do it the easier it gets, but you probably know that
Snatching at his shots and nit learning to adjust his bat face to compensate for anti spin rubbers on opponents bat.Remember if you keep the ball on the table then it’s up to your opponent to get it back over the net.
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Does antispin mean flat or backspin?
Neither, it's a type of rubber
You must play with as less as possible spin against anti. Roll service and no spin is a good start
That's the best strategy! 😉
Nice match :)
But what about the cybershape with anti 😨
I'm going to do collaborations with the 2 biggest antispin brands...i have a lot of new stuff to try for new videos! 🙂
Cybershape is in "stand-by" mode 🙃
Wow...it's end of 5th set and your opponent still serves underspin and then tries to push after antispin return...didn't he have a coach?? 🙄
Nice match from you, well done.
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He had a coach! 😅
@@AndreaAschi Was the coach watching an other match ?
Not sure what level this is, but after 3 sets you should start knowing what is going on and adapt.
exactly. Most player know that you have to serve without any effect in the antispin...
Most likely they both are not familiar with antispin
What is an anti-spin match..I have questions
It's a match with an anti-spin player involved! 😁
2th ranked
Time and time again you see the blue shirt player playing a top spin, the ball is returned off the anti, and he immediately dumps the ball into the net, not realising that the ball now has back spin.
Always check your opponents rubbers before a match.
His opponent is on the national team, he sure knows what spin is on the ball lol. It's just that the amount of backspin is a lot more than he expects. A heavy ball like that needs to be ''lifted'', not pushed back. What I mean is, you have to put the racket completely flat under the ball and tap the ball straight up.
I watched this match in live but Izzo didn't played really well that tournament, I think I could won, btw great match
Ciao! :)
Izzo ha ovviamente giocato sottotono con troppi errori gratuiti. Non avrei mai vinto altrimenti. 😬
É poi uscito pure nel girone.
Si devo dire che secondo me non é passato nel girone perché ha sottovalutato Casassa, con cui mi alleno, che ha giocato molto bene tra l'altro
@@dondy1469 era anche un pochino "scazzato" per la partita appena persa secondo me.
Costantino ha poi giocato alla grande sia con lui che con me.
Quindi giochi all'Enjoy. Se non ti importa l'anonimato chi sei? 😬
Non mi conosci perché sono ancora un sesta anche se mi alleno con la b2, comunque mi presenterò al prossimo predeterminato
Dai se hai la fortuna di allenarti con i ragazzi di B2 nel giro di poco ti ritrovo nei terza categoria! 😉
It's not antispin, it's anti tennis
All of table tennis is anti-tennis.
2015?
That's an old t-shirt. 😉
Yes , this blade is not stiga cyber?
there should be a reason why professional players don't use this type of rubber, with some exceptions ofc
1:27. This is how you handle misses you know you should have hit. Essentially little to no reaction. This blonde haired opponent just hasn't learned that yet. You show your displeasure that much and it's like blood in the water, plus the negative self talk hurts you too, for opponents.
Nightmare
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I absolutely agree with those who say that antispin and pimples out is just a short cut for those who wants to win without training. No need to learn how to receive serves (the biggest part of the game), no need to learn how to handle incoming spin. Just 2 technical elements push and chopblock instead of like 10-20 technical elements required with the pimples in rubbers. It’s ok, you can play whatever you want, but maaan, these people always say how hard it actually is to play with antispin/pimplesout. They literally gaslighting everyone around, including themselves.
It's simple, it works, they win. Why bother learning 20 skills if you need only 2 to win?
Wrong, I played 6 years with inverted rubber and recently changed to long pips. Long pips are way harder, the amount of different strokes you need to learn, the feeling you need to get and when to use those strokes are way harder than any inverted player has to master. In my opinion, inverted rubber users are lazy, it’s easy to use, understand and the strokes are so simple. I used to hate long pips but now I have deep respect for them.
Top Match Andrea ,have you win the tournament ? And why play you with Antispin and not with long pimples on your backhand side ?
i lost in the quarter-finals against a great chopper!
I don't use long pimples because you can achieve better spinreversal in passive block with antispin!
@@AndreaAschi can you kindly upload your match with that chopper or personally send me that video? I am a new chopper myself, so I would like to learn from it
@@dr.oneilaakashbiswas1038 hi! My last video is the match against the chopper. ;)
using antispin or long/medium pips vs new players is unfair because they usualy dont have practice partner with anti or pips to practice against. i think ping pong low spin game or hard bat are the only honest games. So my advice to players who dont have antispin /long pips training partner.. protect your nerves and just dont play against materials.
What is more effective blade for antispin?
Fast and stiff blades are the best for antispin.
If i have to name you one the best antispin player in the world uses Dr Neubauer Matador Texa Carbon.
5초 보자마자 욕이 나와버린ww
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Mesut hocam sizde anti var mi
Setup men ??
- Blade: ??
- Rubber FH ??
Hey, it might help if they were called out on their illegal serves...just saying.
who served irregularly?
@@AndreaAschi Both players were lofting the ball behind their shoulders and torso obstructing the view. The rules state that the ball must be visible at all times during the service.
@@AndreaAschi With all sympathy but the angle of your throw is very far from vertical. If it were called out you could not complain. Nice video!
Laughing about enemys fault on 00:55 is the sportsmanship we all know about choppers...
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aha man dont take this guy serous just funy point is ok laugh
Are you generalizing choppers as lacking sportsmanship? I've been playing nearly 40 years and never come to that conclusion. Anyway, this guy really isn't even a chopper.
@@PongGod ey listen man have respect for chop try his best to win even have no power shot
@@tennisone6376 I do have respect for choppers. I also respect this player; he has skills. My point was that this guy doesn't really play like a chopper. He mostly plays close to the table.
The enemy dont know how to play with long pips, actually the same
Yes, because he is not used to play in training against anti/lp. 😉
Also he have butterfly zhang jike
What is antispin? Can someone explain it to me
Hi! Antispin is a rubber with little or no friction on its surface.
Ah, u mean the black colour rubber u used in the match? I see u using that part a lot
Exactly!
@@AndreaAschi Wow never know about that part of rubber 😂. I play table tennis before but just for fun with my friends, your video give me new things to learn. Tyvm sir
Posso capire che qualcuno possa trovare divertente giocare in questo modo. Personalmente dovrebbe essere rese illegali come la colla a fresco ( che trovavo cmq più legale di queste gomme). Un like per la passione.
Grazie per aver espresso con rispetto la tua opinione! E grazie per il like! :)
good rubber if you're not able to do a decent backhand :)))
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Nasty stuff, you can tell he was really insecure with his smashes.
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Não deveria ser permitido pois facilita o jogo para um é dificulta para o outro
The guy in green was so irritated beacuse he couldn't play vs antispin 😂😂😂 I'm a old cpen player and i truly hated to play vs long pips before but after a while when I figured it out I started to push and play a more straight game with less spinn. Voila.. Good game also but i still hate playing vs anti and long pips ha ha
Fun fact: I also hate playing against anti players 😄
looks like both players are cupping hand on the serve and hiding with their thumbs... ???
The attacking player has alright technical skills, but he has difficulty reading and handling spin. Makes far to many mistakes, number one is that he constantly lets the antiball drop instead of hitting it at its highest point. Makes a similar mistake when blocking the spinny forehand loop and it goes to long far to often. Mistake number three, he try’s way to difficult shots considering the kind of opponent he’s facing. A young players usual mistakes I’d say
These are common mistakes in young players.
My only chance to beat them is to find them when they are still inexperienced against certain types of players.
Başkan hangi anti
Has he never played against anti before?
I think he has never played against this type of antispin before!
i would love to forehand flat hit the heck out of that anti rubber!
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Do not make any rotation against antispin play just in flat mode and you will be fine))
Sounds good, but it's actually not easy to keep the ball empty and low with an offensive rubber. If you give spinless high balls to any decent player, you'll be eating a lot of very hard smashes
I wonder what's the thought process that gets you to play with antispin rubbers, so boring
I changed because I didn’t have fun anymore with 2 inverted rubbers...we have different tastes
@@AndreaAschi guess so!
cant win normal?
Yes it's possibile but with antispin is better! 🙃
You call it "anti spin"
We call it "Bintix" 🤣
Bintix...sounds good!! :)
Next video will be a bintix match!! 😜
@@AndreaAschi keep uploading bruh..
People in my country would love to see your vids. We have a lot of "Bintix" player here 🤣
Are you Indonesian?
20% of my views come from Indonesia, definitely my biggest subs community!! 🥰
@@AndreaAschi no, it is not bintix ,, bintix means pimple out , antispin is antispin
we call it "anti tennis"
Aka, ANTISkill rubbers.
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haha ikl
Anti is Anti competitive.
play against him 3 times and you will never win any set again, forever.
I can live with that. 😅
Allways funny to see that people are unable to adapt to the rubber during the game. some errors in the first sets is allright but even in the 5th set he did a lot of basic mistakes.
good for me! :D
anche solo usare una puntinata dovrebbe farti vergognare, avversario molto più bravo che ha perso per inesperienza contro un stile tremendo di gioco. Ancora un po’ di pratica e sarà lui a ridere dopo averti battuto facilmente
"Anche solo usare una puntinata dovrebbe farti vergognare"...ma che cribbio stai dicendo? 😅
Molto più bravo...verissimo...e allora non perdere...
Il giorno che mi batterà, spero per lui molto presto, gli stringeró la mano così come ho fatto l'ultima volta.
disgusting game i hope they ban all pimps and antispin rubbers soon
Glad you enjoyed it!
Anti spin guys have no character like this guy. This guy wins because the opponent didn't know what's coming out from his racket, so do you guys think it's fair?
I guess from your comment that you have tried and used an anti for a long time and realized that it doesn't take skill to use it. Have i got that right?
His main opponent is his own psychology. Things have changed, adapt.
У антиспинов и шиповиков отобрать ракетки и сжечь,а их предать анафеме и разрешить только смотреть как играют другие.😡
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reason is not acceptable
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ALL THE SERVES ARE ILLEGAL. BALL TOSS IS NO WHERE NEAR VERTICAL. AND ITS HIT BEHIND THE TORSO MOST OF THE TIME. WHY CANT PLAYERS LEARN TO SERVE LEGALLY??