I loved that Puma GTO, 330bhp and 590nm on a reduced weight of 1460kg + slick tyres, it held it's own alright! The other cars had double its power but from every lap you could see the GTO's traction pulling out of every corner! The RAZO gtr could late brake to catch up to the gto but the GTO's 6G72 early torque curve meant it got out of corners faster and made use of its mid range power where the 590nm is really useful
@@AnthroGearhead It doesnt matter If the GTO VR4 weights a lot the AWD system with 4WS and active aero makes this car shine on the circuit the car it's almost perfect the only sad thing about this car was the lack of aftermarket support even Ralliart never manufactured performance parts for this beautiful car
Found in the old 3Si forums from 2003. "The Puma GTO N1 has 6G72 N1 motor, which include TD04 13G hybrid turbines, 450cc injectors, forged internal parts, RALLIART coil pack, hi flow pumps and dynamic balanced, Rev limit is 8500 rpm and the engine is designed to run continuously above 5000rpm for hours of the N1 endurance races. The engine is controlled by RALLIART / P.I. RESEARCH integrated computer system. Transmission is OEM. Gear ratio is also OEM. Clutch is RALLIART Metal N1 single. suspension is made by KYB. its fully adjustable. Ride height is lowered about 3" and front camber has negative six degrees. Most of the extermal and internal chassis parts are made of ultra light material, which were made by RALLIART / MITSUBISHI Metal Industries. The slit in the rear wing is a fuel inlet to the 50 gallon tank. The Racing quick charge fills up 50 gallons in less than 7 seconds."
Love this video so much. I find myself coming to rewatch it year after year. I have always said and will continue to say, the 3000gt/GTO is so underrated it’s almost criminal. On paper it should be a mediocre car (compared to others). Based solely on numbers. However, every single racing video I have seen of a properly set up gto, always prove to be spectacular. Wish Mitsubishi and Ralliart cared more about this car
Sold too many. The 3S is a high volume car so it's value is low. Even the VR4 sold nearly 3x what the Supra TT sold. I still have no clue what magic Mitsubishi put in these 4G and 6G engines. The Galant was a 5x WRC champion with it's 4G63T and the Pajero was a 12x Dakar champion for 20yrs and 150x stage wins. I'm assuming they added weight to the other cars, b/c no way it's supposed to compete with a 170ps and 120ps difference. The NSX I know is lighter and has +60ps.
I know the 3000GTO is fully stripped out but 59s at Tsukuba with 330hp and 90s tires is INSANELY QUICK.. This same exact car with modern slicks with 500hp will touch 54s-55s range for sure. Incredible..
NSX having competed in LeMans was probably gonna be the fastest anyway. The wobble in both GTR's on power would have pi$$ed me off hahaha (it is probably very tiring for a longer race) Nakaya-san proved once again that he is an exceptional driver ^^
They don’t . As a personal owner of one , abs I restore and repair many and Mitsubishi’s at my shop , they were hindered by the excessive weight . While they did have slot of tricks to make them the best , the weight was an issue . The platform being The FWD section carrying all the weight of what it was needed a really strong frame , but then to aid in not having the rear too light , weight was packed , fuel tank all the way the rear etc . It’s the only coupe I have and I love it .
@@eleasandrinhoarantes3078 Me personally i love mine even though its just an SL. ITs weight isnt bad at all at 3194lbs and the engine being NA was still pretty good. Have some mods on it currently (Headers,short runner intake plenum,90mm, single exit exhaust,14lbs flywheel,vr-4 brakes and evo10 gsr wheels). With a Full engine build on the way. IT hauls pretty dam well for what it is. In it's current configuration. Some parts of me think the SL was the better platform. Just because it weighed significantly less.
to be fair, that GT2 NSX does have a sequential but having being built in the mid-90's and having mechanical throttle bodies meant that that a quick throttle lift was needed for upshifts and clutch for downshifts. The sequentials of today can usually be pneumatically or electronically shifted (via I-pattern lever like the old schools or by flappy paddles like the new schools) and since most cars these days use drive by wire throttles it's fairly straightforward for a tuner to program the throttles to auto-close on upshifts and auto-blip for down shifts.
90s japan was savage. GTO GTR RX7 300ZX Supra all capeable of 0-60 5 or sub and 160+ mph, what else on the road could match them at that time? The GTO was designed and geared to break 200mph though it couldnt ship with the power to do so
Of course look at the Supra compare to the GTO. The Supra is using the MR2 engine and the engine is pushed back from the struct tower which makes the car “well balanced” than the GTO. The GTO is still using its original engine 6G72 TT. The Sard Supra is a Grand touring series and the GTO is in the N1 series. These two are different styles of racing in Japan.
@@Toyota4Life its just a slightly boosted engine with only 330ps compared to the supra 450 ps, but the torque of the GTO was massive 590nm, the gtr r33 behind the gto also had 450HP by the way but could not even close gap on the straight against the gto.
True but damn it’s quite a heavy car a WRX looks like it’s made of feathers and titanium compared to the GTO, both are fantastic though don’t get me wrong I live them to death.
Is it just me or was the GTO a lot more stock than these cars. The NSX is running a carbon fiber tub, way bigger tires 390ps and most likely the lightest car there. The Supra and GT-R 450ps and that one Skyline with 500ps. The Supra engine bay is full race car spec. The interior is completely gutted. The GTO interior still has half the dash and both stock door cards. It looks like it has the stock windows too. The NSX running plexiglass. Must've been a fun day back then.
Ralliart Racing parts page "This is a Mitsubishi Racing Dynamic balanced 6G72 motor. This 6G72 generates 450-500hp with 450lb / 70kg torque with 13G turbos. Computerized Dynamic balancing is performed for every moving parts from pistons to flywheel. Every core is ported for maximum response. This 6G72 comes with two TD04L-13G, portd and balanced turbins. Also This 6G72 comes with 560cc Denso Fuel Injectors. The N1 GTO, known as 'Puma GTO' finished its 0-400m (1/4 mile) in 11.210 sec in the "Best Motoring" race event with this motor in 1997. This GTO beat N1 R33 SKYLINE GTR at the quarter mile!" So the Puma was definitely running closer power than the claimed 320ps. 😅
First time I've ever seen a Supra with a 3S-GTE swap Edit: Was wondering if it was pulled from an MR2 or a Celica GT4. Not that it would really make that much of a difference, but if anyone else actually knows I'd appreciate it.
All the JGTC Supra's / Super GT GT500 class (think of the TOM'S Castrol Supra, SARD, etc) had 3SGTEs because 2JZ were boat anchors and they could build 3SGTEs close/same power for racing. Doesn't matter which 3SGTE because they built them up
in japan they always used a 3s-gte instead of 2jz. 2jz is too heavy it ruins the track performance. Now they should have put a 4g63 in the GTO to make it equivalent. GTO could have been deleveloped way more to make it faster. these days there are 4g63 engine swap kits for gto and torque sensing center differentials bouble a-arm conversion way more downforce to enhance track performance.
Why in the world was the Sard Supra using the 3SGTE engine instead of the 2JZ-GTE??? I know the 3SGTE is a good engine but it would need a lot added to it to even keep up with the 2JZ-GTE.
@AZ_3kgt no the GT500 skylines actually used the RB 6 cyls. The reason Toyota didn't use 2JZ was because it made the car front heavy, same issues with skyline JGTC cars. 3SGTE is lighter so it improved weight distribution. Also the smaller engine made the power they wanted.
三菱+中谷さん=最速。
こういう企画にわりと新しいレーシングカー出してくれて新品ソフトまで使うなんて景気良い時代だわ
筑波とはいえGTカー相手にここまでやれるマインズ凄いな
土屋さんが乗ってるNSXでも57秒か… 岡村さんのS15でも56秒出てるからチューニング業界もかなり進化してるのがわかるね
I loved that Puma GTO, 330bhp and 590nm on a reduced weight of 1460kg + slick tyres, it held it's own alright! The other cars had double its power but from every lap you could see the GTO's traction pulling out of every corner! The RAZO gtr could late brake to catch up to the gto but the GTO's 6G72 early torque curve meant it got out of corners faster and made use of its mid range power where the 590nm is really useful
Well said!
Signature:11. さ
The mitsu was a better car
As a 300ZX owner, i really wish that 3000GT had like 450hp, it would gap those childish cars on the 2nd lap
@@AnthroGearhead It doesnt matter If the GTO VR4 weights a lot the AWD system with 4WS and active aero makes this car shine on the circuit the car it's almost perfect the only sad thing about this car was the lack of aftermarket support even Ralliart never manufactured performance parts for this beautiful car
異種競技車なんだけど四駆のGTR に対して２駆のスープラが最終コーナーで突っ込みからの立ち上がり勝負は凄い
服部さんカッコイイ！
車はトータルバランスだよっていう言葉を(他の動画でも)何回も仰られていた土屋さんの言うとおり凄いタイム出してるなNSX GT2……
GTOて1分切っててすげー！って思ってたらどんどんあとから出てくる車がタイム刻んでいってここまで心踊るような気持ちに動画でもなったの初めてだわ…
フェンダー形状とかほとんど市販と変わってないGTOや３３Rがスープラやnsxに並んでもぜんぜんカッコいいのは元のデザインの良さだなあ、、
Found in the old 3Si forums from 2003.
"The Puma GTO N1 has
6G72 N1 motor, which include TD04 13G hybrid turbines, 450cc injectors, forged internal parts, RALLIART coil pack, hi flow pumps and dynamic balanced,
Rev limit is 8500 rpm and the engine is designed to run continuously above 5000rpm for hours of the N1 endurance races.
The engine is controlled by RALLIART / P.I. RESEARCH integrated computer system.
Transmission is OEM. Gear ratio is also OEM. Clutch is RALLIART Metal N1 single.
suspension is made by KYB. its fully adjustable. Ride height is lowered about 3" and front camber has negative six degrees.
Most of the extermal and internal chassis parts are made of ultra light material, which were made by RALLIART / MITSUBISHI Metal Industries.
The slit in the rear wing is a fuel inlet to the 50 gallon tank. The Racing quick charge fills up 50 gallons in less than 7 seconds."
今じゃ考えられないくらい跳ねてる
N1の33の最終の立ち上がりが凄かった
ダンロップ先でも結構跳ねてますね💦
酔いそう
服部さんの最後の怒涛の追い上げが、見てて爽快でした
I’m way too glad to have been rooting for the Supra this whole time 😂❤️
Puma impressive. Can't help thinking the GTO could have been developed a lot more
The driver said all it needed was a front lsd to beat the gtr in the corners but the team moved to the evo platform instead
At least based on the data in the video. The GTO is way down on power. 330ps vs 500ps, 450ps of the GT-R and Supra but only .30s off the pace.
I love GTO Mitsubishi.
These are all dream cars to me.
GTOかっけぇ...!
異種競技バトルは勉強になって、面白いし見ごたえありますね～！この勝負のガソリンは何を使ってるんでしょ？みんな同じ物ですかね～
一台だけ車高が異次元なクルマいて草
Love this video so much. I find myself coming to rewatch it year after year.
I have always said and will continue to say, the 3000gt/GTO is so underrated it’s almost criminal.
On paper it should be a mediocre car (compared to others). Based solely on numbers. However, every single racing video I have seen of a properly set up gto, always prove to be spectacular.
Wish Mitsubishi and Ralliart cared more about this car
I definitely agree, I don't understand why it is so underrated and forgotten...
Sold too many. The 3S is a high volume car so it's value is low. Even the VR4 sold nearly 3x what the Supra TT sold.
I still have no clue what magic Mitsubishi put in these 4G and 6G engines. The Galant was a 5x WRC champion with it's 4G63T and the Pajero was a 12x Dakar champion for 20yrs and 150x stage wins.
I'm assuming they added weight to the other cars, b/c no way it's supposed to compete with a 170ps and 120ps difference. The NSX I know is lighter and has +60ps.
really impressing how these guys tune all the car in 1996
プーマGTO懐かしい～。この頃のレーシングカー、現存しているものって有るんですかね？
上のクラスのマシンは次期のベースになってるか保管されるか展示とかされて見かけますけど、N1で現存してる車って聞かないですよね
多分このビデオで土屋さんが乗ってるNSXは現存していると思った
この時代のだとN1耐久フジツボR33はこの前スーパー耐久のクラッシックで走ってたよ
チーム国光のNSXはもてぎのコレクションホールで展示されていたはずです。
プーマGTOは確かジャッキーチェンの映画で大破してたと思います(^^;;
この時のだっけ？中谷さんの自家用車に足回りを移植したんじゃなかったかな
なのでプーマGTOは現存していないと思います
チューニングカーとGTカーが対等に戦えてたなんて何か不思議だなぁ
I like the craziness of hattori san, he gives me a smile, everytime i see him😂
I know the 3000GTO is fully stripped out but 59s at Tsukuba with 330hp and 90s tires is INSANELY QUICK.. This same exact car with modern slicks with 500hp will touch 54s-55s range for sure. Incredible..
GTO Mitsubishi mantap!!
NSX having competed in LeMans was probably gonna be the fastest anyway.
The wobble in both GTR's on power would have pi$$ed me off hahaha (it is probably very tiring for a longer race)
Nakaya-san proved once again that he is an exceptional driver ^^
This is great!
レース中ほんとに誰も喋んないな(笑)かっこいいです。
Mitsubishi GTO MR(3000GT VR4,Stealth RT TT). Just dont get enough credit.
They don’t . As a personal owner of one , abs I restore and repair many and Mitsubishi’s at my shop , they were hindered by the excessive weight . While they did have slot of tricks to make them the best , the weight was an issue .
The platform being The FWD section carrying all the weight of what it was needed a really strong frame , but then to aid in not having the rear too light , weight was packed , fuel tank all the way the rear etc .
It’s the only coupe I have and I love it .
@@eleasandrinhoarantes3078 Me personally i love mine even though its just an SL. ITs weight isnt bad at all at 3194lbs and the engine being NA was still pretty good.
Have some mods on it currently (Headers,short runner intake plenum,90mm, single exit exhaust,14lbs flywheel,vr-4 brakes and evo10 gsr wheels). With a Full engine build on the way. IT hauls pretty dam well for what it is. In it's current configuration. Some parts of me think the SL was the better platform. Just because it weighed significantly less.
NSXはル・マンでもドラシャで苦しんだもんなー
I love it!!! I'm thinking extremely competitive gentlemen driving?! Anyone agree? Sooo cool go the GTO!
Now I see gran turismo 1. All my childhood video game legends. Music very similar as well.
Man...when Nakaya is behind the wheel of a Mitsubishi, you know you gonna see some awesome driving.
サムネに釣られた、どれもこれも趣味に刺さるマシンで嬉しい
More impressive was the MINE'S being able to keep up with race cars being a road car.
現地で見たなぁ。
懐かしい。
マジかよ...
クッソ羨ましいなぁ...
今のクルマに魅力あんま感じないから、個人的にこの時代がベスモの企画等含めホントに古き良き時代って感じ
当たり前だけど最初期のGT5000マシンは本当に市販車から作ってるんだなと感じますね！
That was so good
華やかな時代😊視聴者の記憶に残るスーパーバトル😮
Nakaya=Mitsubishi Godfather
That NSX sounds incredible.
At least Hattori couldn't miss 3rd gear with that sequential gearbox
中谷さん流石。上手過ぎます。
三菱GTOは中谷さんでないと駄目ですね。
スープラかっこいいな〜
Get these translated for the love of god this is pure gold
0:13 タクちゃんwww🤣🤣🤣
Tsuchiya the legend, only shifting without clutch and fast as with an 3 disk clutch sequential
to be fair, that GT2 NSX does have a sequential but having being built in the mid-90's and having mechanical throttle bodies meant that that a quick throttle lift was needed for upshifts and clutch for downshifts. The sequentials of today can usually be pneumatically or electronically shifted (via I-pattern lever like the old schools or by flappy paddles like the new schools) and since most cars these days use drive by wire throttles it's fairly straightforward for a tuner to program the throttles to auto-close on upshifts and auto-blip for down shifts.
HiSpdMgcnLady huh why is there a clutch pedal on a car with a sequential transmission?
@@tony_5156 still needs a clutch
Awesome
ルマン仕様のNSXかっこいい
土屋さん若いな～( ・ε・)
PUMA GTOにはグランツーリスモ2で凄くお世話になりました。
やっぱ筑波みたいなとこだとJGTCマシンといえど押さえ込まれるとキツイね。
とはいえレギュの差で改造範囲の広いGTカーは速いですね。
GTO life!!!
Does anyone have to sound/songtrack for this video? Looking in particular for the song when they show specs for the GTO and the Supra
I wanted to see the nsx in action
90s japan was savage. GTO GTR RX7 300ZX Supra all capeable of 0-60 5 or sub and 160+ mph, what else on the road could match them at that time?
The GTO was designed and geared to break 200mph though it couldnt ship with the power to do so
今仮にやれるならどんなマシンがエントリーするかなあ〜
ゴール直前で横並びになると皆んな体揺らすよね
中谷さんのコーナー前のブレーキ操作非常に参考になります。（確認？または圧をあげてる？）
おーGTOやりますねぇ
13:35～の映像でSARD SUPRAのスロットルペダルの右側にリンクされている
ロッドに付いているイナーターのような物は何か解る人いますか？
スロットルワイヤーだと思います。FRでペダルを吊り下げ式からオルガン式に変える際スロットルワイヤーを加工しないとスロットルが開かなくなってしまうからだったと思います
the gto was the fastest production Japanese car at the time alot of people don't know that
HOW THOUGH! haha on paper it should be the slowest but fastest on the track, crazy
if it was more laps the supra would have passed
Of course look at the Supra compare to the GTO. The Supra is using the MR2 engine and the engine is pushed back from the struct tower which makes the car “well balanced” than the GTO. The GTO is still using its original engine 6G72 TT. The Sard Supra is a Grand touring series and the GTO is in the N1 series. These two are different styles of racing in Japan.
@@Toyota4Life its just a slightly boosted engine with only 330ps compared to the supra 450 ps, but the torque of the GTO was massive 590nm, the gtr r33 behind the gto also had 450HP by the way but could not even close gap on the straight against the gto.
True but damn it’s quite a heavy car a WRX looks like it’s made of feathers and titanium compared to the GTO, both are fantastic though don’t get me wrong I live them to death.
てか33音良すぎカッコいい
I love the zoom in on the GTR at 2:22 as if it were to say "Look at this GTR, never mind the civic spanking this shit out of him"
今はgtカーとチューニングカーが互角の戦いなんてできないもんなー
ツバ九郎 時代のせいだよ...
ツバ九郎 何周もついて行くのは無理だけど1周なら勝負になるかも？
トップフューエルS2000とかなら
お金のかけ方と時間のかけ方と技術のかけ方が違いますからねw
今はもうそもそもモノコックから違うからなぁ
NSX 壊れなかったらな〜。
こんなんが携帯で見れる時代すごい。
こうゆう企画はもうできないんだろうなぁ
sard supra かっこよ
Is it just me or was the GTO a lot more stock than these cars. The NSX is running a carbon fiber tub, way bigger tires 390ps and most likely the lightest car there.
The Supra and GT-R 450ps and that one Skyline with 500ps. The Supra engine bay is full race car spec. The interior is completely gutted. The GTO interior still has half the dash and both stock door cards.
It looks like it has the stock windows too. The NSX running plexiglass.
Must've been a fun day back then.
I felt in the Gran Turismo 2 watching this
NSXのバトル見たかったな〜
ドライブシャフトが逝っちゃうとか残念…
Ralliart Racing parts page
"This is a Mitsubishi Racing Dynamic balanced 6G72 motor. This 6G72 generates 450-500hp with 450lb / 70kg torque with 13G turbos. Computerized Dynamic balancing is performed for every moving parts from pistons to flywheel. Every core is ported for maximum response. This 6G72 comes with two TD04L-13G, portd and balanced turbins. Also This 6G72 comes with 560cc Denso Fuel Injectors. The N1 GTO, known as 'Puma GTO' finished its 0-400m (1/4 mile) in 11.210 sec in the "Best Motoring" race event with this motor in 1997. This GTO beat N1 R33 SKYLINE GTR at the quarter mile!"
So the Puma was definitely running closer power than the claimed 320ps. 😅
What suspension setup caber and toe does this car have?
That was insane.... That Supra tho 💯
Ese supra no tiene 2JZ 😀
15:33 What happened to the driveshaft on the NSX?
It broke.
サードスープラの紹介中に流れてるBGM なんて曲か知ってる人います？
So emotional
マインズの筆記体のステッカー逆向き煮貼って有る車、よく見たわ！当時！
Never knew that Denso/Sard Supra had a 3S 4-cylinder
Pretty much all racing Supras were running that engine
El Castrol TOMS Supra también lo tiene, porque el 2JZ es horriblemente pesado
このスープラかっこいいって言ってる数年後にイエローハットのスープラに乗ることになるはっちゃん🔥
which is the name of this program in japan?
First time I've ever seen a Supra with a 3S-GTE swap
Edit: Was wondering if it was pulled from an MR2 or a Celica GT4. Not that it would really make that much of a difference, but if anyone else actually knows I'd appreciate it.
All the JGTC Supra's / Super GT GT500 class (think of the TOM'S Castrol Supra, SARD, etc) had 3SGTEs because 2JZ were boat anchors and they could build 3SGTEs close/same power for racing.
Doesn't matter which 3SGTE because they built them up
Saikouguy as far as I can recall yeah, exactly what you wrote. Careful not to offend the 2JZ BOOST mouthbreathing fanbois lmao
Who gives a shit about those cunts and their so called 2JZ Supras, they know the engine cant respond well at cornering
in japan they always used a 3s-gte instead of 2jz. 2jz is too heavy it ruins the track performance. Now they should have put a 4g63 in the GTO to make it equivalent. GTO could have been deleveloped way more to make it faster. these days there are 4g63 engine swap kits for gto and torque sensing center differentials bouble a-arm conversion way more downforce to enhance track performance.
@@jonytube 2GayZ mejor dicho 😅
Mitsubishi best
Que bien esos Mitsubishi 🎉🎉🎉
この企画は何度観ても飽きない企画で楽しいです😄強いて言えば、NSXが壊れなければもっと楽しかったかもですね😂
中谷さんおめでとうございます。勝てる三菱には中谷さんが必要です。
Why in the world was the Sard Supra using the 3SGTE engine instead of the 2JZ-GTE??? I know the 3SGTE is a good engine but it would need a lot added to it to even keep up with the 2JZ-GTE.
its was the GT500 rules at the time didnt allow anything but a 4-cylinder.
@AZ_3kgt no the GT500 skylines actually used the RB 6 cyls. The reason Toyota didn't use 2JZ was because it made the car front heavy, same issues with skyline JGTC cars. 3SGTE is lighter so it improved weight distribution. Also the smaller engine made the power they wanted.
@@az_3kgt714 lolno, GT500 had the V12 Mclaren F1 GTR, the 2JZ wasn't used because it was way too heavy
I think he said something about a Mines R33
What a pass
Какой же звук афигенный у скайлайна!
Supra молодчина!!!
GTO STILL HEAVIER. IMAGINE SAME POWER TO WEIGHT RATIO WITH GTR...
スープラのボディキットはアグレッシブに見える
That sexy wide bodies on the NSX and Supra 😍 OMG
Those sexy slim bodies on those girls OMG
6G72 powa
except it lost?
GTO 👍👍
おー？
グランツーリスモ1にあった！！！
Just goes to show the fundamentals commonly fixated upon aren't the be all end all.
Why does GTO has 330ps and every other car has 450ps or more.. ?