59 years old and I stopped going to failure. I leave 1-2 reps in the tank. I found in the past my form would be bad and would keep aggravating my persistent injuries. Still get a good pump and have not seen any downside.
I'm 54. I very rarely train to failure. I can't sustain silly injuries due to my work, which is physical anyway. Near failure and plenty rest works for me. Still gaining muscle... still getting positive comments from people.
I am 64 and that is my approach as well. I also have similar results. I cut down to two resistance training workouts per week and lift no more than 20-30 minutes. I am in and out. I am content with that
im only 35 and ive noticed once i took my foot off the gas a little, i started to make drastic improvements. Not caring about silly shit like how my delts look, are my legs super jacked, am i benching 400+ etc has also helped dramatically bc im actually happy in my training again and enjoying it and like you said still reaping the rewards. I find that when you get obsessed with doing what all these online experts say you start to get miserable with it and you realize im literally doing this to try to get attention from people on social media that i dont know.....this is stupid.
Great comment Paul, i’m 62 and my approach is exactly the same as yours, I do upper body twice a week, legs once a week in and out in 30 to 40 minutes, along with mountain biking a couple times a week and Pickleball a couple times a week, combining all of this is the secret to longevity, never stop!
There is research by Dr. Ralph Carpinelli, if you are going to recruit as much type 2 fibers, training to failure is absolutely necessary. It’s a scientific principle called the Henneman Principle. An over load stimulus is required for maximal gains in strength or hypertrophy. At least on 1 set at the end line you do. I’ve been training to failure for over 40 years and it has worked. Still making hypertrophy gains at 55. Small but still gains nevertheless. If you are worried about fatigue, train less frequently. I train 1 upper and 1 lower per week. All out. No fatigue issues. Most of these studies are not set up correctly. They have the failure group train 2-3 times per week along with the no failure group training at the same frequency. Bad set up. The failure group would be better off going 1x per week or gains will be minimal or nonexistent. I never have safety issues because I train on machines only. Anyway, that’s my input.
I'm 70, and have been pushing iron for 57 years. Trained others and worked with some greats. For the last 5 years I've cut down on sets. 12-18 per body part. I do more drop sets at the end, only going to failure on the last set or two. Choose your exercises wisely and DON'T think you can do the same weight as if you were 20
Not lifting to failure is simply performing something your body is already capable of. That does not provide nearly as much stimulus for hypertrophy as training *beyond* the things your body is capable of. If you can do 10 reps of an exercise with a given weight then simply doing those 10 reps every time you work out will not produce the stimulus necessary to create an adaptive change in your body. In order to stimulate growth (in strength or size) you need to subject your muscles to a challenge that they simply can not (presently) complete. Training to failure will *definitely* produce adaptation -- training with 1-2 RIR will likely not produce nowhere near as much(unless you're a newbie). It's also worth remembering that in a set of 10 reps to failure it's really only the last few reps that are effective in stimulating growth -- the majority of those early reps serve only to exhaust your muscles to the extent that *all* fibres are recruited for those last few. I perform pyramid workouts and I do all sets after the peak-set to failure but my last set for any exercise is done to "beyond failure". On that last set I keep trying until I simply can't move the weight (while retaining good form) any real amount. This works well for me and since I'm pyramiding I'm effectively drop-setting and that last set is done with quite light weights so the burn is *intense*. I'm coming up on 72 years of age and, despite this approach, I'm fully recovered within 72 hours of a workout beyond failure. Perhaps I'm just lucky.
I'm 54 and train to failure on the last set of every exercise. I am in the best physical shape of my life and growing like crazy. So screw what Arnold thinks.
Early 50's here and I do one exercise per body part and only 3 sets with set 1 the warm up set and sets 2 & 3 the train to failure/almost failure sets. Usually set 2 is a few reps short of failure and set 3 is higher weight to failure/almost failure. This is based on Mike Mentzer's high intensity principles which hold that training sessions should be short and intense instead of long with multiple exercises and sets per body part. I only weight train two days per week and alternate between free weights and machines since free weights stress the joints a little more. This has worked great for me but I'm always open to new ideas.
Any activity is better than none and while increasing intensity has benefits there’s a curve of diminishing returns and increasing danger the more frequently you approach failure.
At sixty eight and weight training since I was a teenager , my joints let me know real quick when I am over doing it. Making gains is a thing of the past for me and I just concentrate on keeping what I have so that I can be physically active. Lighter weights and higher reps seems to work best for me these days and I make sure that I recover long enough. If I don’t, I get to hurting.
I don't know. Everyone's different. I'm 51, been very regularly hitting the gym now for almost 3 years. At first it was just to lose weight. Lost 20 lbs in about 5 months then plateaued. Figured I'd keep going to the gym and try to put on some muscle. For the next 1-1½ yrs I was going to near failure and putting in what I thought was good work. I didn't grain a single lb in that time, or change my body in any way. I started trying all sorts of things to stimulate change. I would never have thought myself a hard gainer, but apparently I am. I've had to greatly increase my protein consumption, and I go to total failure regularly, then even past, squeezing a few more (baby) reps when I can, always keeping good form (I think that's super important). I've learned my body only responds to a ridiculous amount of effort, has to be completely shocked into change. So everyone's different. Listen to what the experts have to say, but listen to your own body more.
Completely makes sense and definitely not my typical routine since I take roughly 70% of my sets to failure. However, I also only workout each muscle group once per week giving plenty of time for recovery since I'm 53....so I wonder if that is one's routine if going to failure more often is okay.....hhmmmmm. Even tried your drop set method and talk about a grind...but the crazy thing is, I may get a little soreness in my chest but my bicep workout I get NO soreness after my drop set bicep workout.....would that tell me that my muscles are handling the failure pretty well with hardly no soreness a day or two afterwards? But I will say that after 3 straight years of working out....with no injuries, my strength gaining and muscle growth has been at a snails pace for roughly 18 months which is why I'm trying out the drop sets. FInally, I would say this is perfect advice for those who work out each muscle group twice per week leaving less time for recovery between workouts.
2 reps in reserve might do the same as 0 reps in reserve. But personally I am unable to stop at 2 and be absolutely sure that I hadn't progressed so that actually was 3 or even 4 in reserve. So I just go to 0. I am fairly good at knowing that was the last rep, but sometimes I will press myself to actual failure to be sure. In my opinion, people are just lazy or afraid because that last few reps sometimes take tears to complete. People just want to stay comfortable. If you are afraid of injury, then choose a somewhat higher rep range. It is lifting too heavy that will injure you, not failing at rep #12.
As I attack 62, I agree! I approach or reach failure on the last set. I’ve also moved towards Jay Cutler’s mantra of VOLUME! Instead of 3 sets of a movement, I’ll do at least 4 or 5…maybe 6 if I feel the need for more. Slow, controlled reps focusing on the muscle. I’m getting great results with no injuries. Workout smarter as you get older to avoid injuries and increase flexibility work. Stretching and flexibility moves are just as important as we age…found that out the hard way! Flexibility = Mobility!
Arthur Jones trained Arnold twice. He said Arnold was so soft that he could not get him to go NEAR failure. I never pay attention to anything Arnold has said. He simply had great genetics and good drugs. I am good with people going to failure or not to failure. It is simply your choice. Both work.
Kudos Jay! This is the best instruction you have ever given. "Suttle nuances" excellent! I personally liked to use a weight that will allow some acceleration to guide me to not over reach , that is on the concentric side of the movement. Thanks gain.
At 64 I make sure 3 days a week at Gym. I recently went back to free weights after years of multiple machines. I love the feel of a good bench press and am loving my enhanced chest. I always said if you make the Pecs larger the rest looks okay. My routine is bench then other exercise in between like slant board and crunches. So the bench is my main exercise and I love it.
I'm 52 and train most days. I can definitely say I don't go to failure...I will push the set till I think I could get 3 or 4 more out - then I stop - rest 30 seconds - then do another set.
I can only tell you my experience. I'm 67 and have lifted weights since I was 14. I never lifted for bigger muscles, only for strength. Every set has been to absolute failure. Trying to beat the number of reps at that weight I did in the past. Here is where it has gotten me. At 58 years old I bench pressed (touch and go) 350 lbs for the first time in my life. I had some "life type issues" between 58 yrs. old and 67 yrs. old, but continued to lift. At 66 yrs. old (3 weeks before turning 67 yrs. old) I benched 350 lbs. again. Note that I have been injured only 4 times. Two were due to yard work and two to lifting. One lifting injury was during a deadlift workout. Interrupted during the workout and then returned and injured my lower back. I was in my 20s. The other was an inner pec injury caused by doing dumbbell bench flys and stretching the inner pec too far. I have never been injured on a rep going to failure. Proper warmups are the key.
I think it depends on the person 🤔 People have different systemic fatigue levels and different levels of conditioning. Science is cool, I respect science tremendously but sometimes reality is quite different
Recently, maybe 2-3 weeks ago I really started to push out those hard reps. I had gotten complacent with hitting 12 or 15 reps and stopping. I watched you rvideo and really started pushing that 2-3 extra hard reps. I am already noticing fuller biceps and rear delts. I also added a different, Arnold tip on bench. maybe 6 weeks ago I started doing a drop-down failure set of incline DB. My last set of chest every other week is something like 70s to failure, drop to 55 to failure drop to 40 to failure. My chest is responding great.
Personally, the term training to failure is a bit of a double edge sword and for me, the idea of training to failure would only be wise if training a lagging muscle group not a particular type of lift so if the person had undeveloped or weak triceps and was training this triceps with lots of volume however when it came to doing some form of tricep press took the muscle to failure but the load was not excessive like it would be with a bench press because the triceps are being trained in isolation. Lowering the weight and then taking that to failure even as an older person would not bring about damage to the joint or a huge amount of fatigue that would have been introduced much earlier if they had continued to do progressive overload. My case in point is when "training to failure", do a drop set and fail on a lighter weight than fail on a heavy load. Thus bringing yourself past the point of failure. When you actually do fail the load is much lighter. The key is the joints need to be fully warmed up. The exercise is the isolation of a lagging muscle and not a compound lift. Just my take on the whole aspect of training to failure. PS "Washington Commanders" that good to know.
Totally makes sense. Unless you are looking into competing or a very advanced lifter then IMO it’s not necessary. Watching someone like Mike Israetel’s workouts is nuts.
One set to failure, or multiple sets short of failure. Both work. In the first case you only have to do the one set, in the second you have to accumulate fatigue over the greater number of sets. They are the same result done in a different way. Going to failure is not necessarily the cause of injury.
I thought Arnold once said that the last few reps of the last set are the most important and that is when you should go to failure. " IDEA FOR ANOTHER OF YOUR VIDEOS " How should you train calves ? High reps low reps heavy or light? I do calves twice/week On one day I do standing one legged calf raises body wt only in the rep range of 15=20 for 3 sets..The other day I use various machines staying in that 3-4 set range.. I am 68,5'11",163 lbs.
Some days you will have different levels of energy. I had a Powerlifting Coach who used to say don't do do much this workout that you can't do more on the next workout. If you're full of energy on one day and really hit it hard, you might ne so eorn out thst you can't recover in time for the next workout. As long as you are increasing the workload over time and you adequately rest and eat enough food, you will make long-term progress..
I'm 74 and recently benched 320 lbs (touch-and-go) and a few days later a 315 with pause. No drugs or any of that nonsense. I'm not special. No fitness "expert" can tell you what your own body has to say. My attitude is that "failure" is listening to naysayers and not even trying. "Pushing to failure" is how I got where I'm at. Schwarzenegger did drugs, has had more than one heart surgery, and needs to listen to his own body, not direct people down his own questionable path.
I think because we're so much more mature and appreciative at our age .These young guns will never understand , too much body mass etc. I,m happy being 57yrs old with 20" guns, glory days are gone lol. Recovering from 2nd heart attack, know your limits and enjoy looking good in the mirror.Putting these wannabes to shame
Most peoples idea of failure isn't really failure, its giving up.
Facts
I'm quoting that!
Truth! Lol
"Stimulate. Don't annihilate." - Lee Haney
As we get older, it really is a balancing act . And every workout is different. Some days ya just don't have it!
59 years old and I stopped going to failure. I leave 1-2 reps in the tank. I found in the past my form would be bad and would keep aggravating my persistent injuries. Still get a good pump and have not seen any downside.
I'm 54. I very rarely train to failure. I can't sustain silly injuries due to my work, which is physical anyway. Near failure and plenty rest works for me. Still gaining muscle... still getting positive comments from people.
I am 64 and that is my approach as well. I also have similar results. I cut down to two resistance training workouts per week and lift no more than 20-30 minutes. I am in and out. I am content with that
im only 35 and ive noticed once i took my foot off the gas a little, i started to make drastic improvements. Not caring about silly shit like how my delts look, are my legs super jacked, am i benching 400+ etc has also helped dramatically bc im actually happy in my training again and enjoying it and like you said still reaping the rewards. I find that when you get obsessed with doing what all these online experts say you start to get miserable with it and you realize im literally doing this to try to get attention from people on social media that i dont know.....this is stupid.
Great comment Paul, i’m 62 and my approach is exactly the same as yours, I do upper body twice a week, legs once a week in and out in 30 to 40 minutes, along with mountain biking a couple times a week and Pickleball a couple times a week, combining all of this is the secret to longevity, never stop!
There is research by Dr. Ralph Carpinelli, if you are going to recruit as much type 2 fibers, training to failure is absolutely necessary. It’s a scientific principle called the Henneman Principle. An over load stimulus is required for maximal gains in strength or hypertrophy. At least on 1 set at the end line you do. I’ve been training to failure for over 40 years and it has worked. Still making hypertrophy gains at 55. Small but still gains nevertheless. If you are worried about fatigue, train less frequently. I train 1 upper and 1 lower per week. All out. No fatigue issues. Most of these studies are not set up correctly. They have the failure group train 2-3 times per week along with the no failure group training at the same frequency. Bad set up. The failure group would be better off going 1x per week or gains will be minimal or nonexistent. I never have safety issues because I train on machines only. Anyway, that’s my input.
Agree 💯
I prefer to take certain exercises to failure or to near failure, but not usually every set. Know your limits and plan for plenty of recovery time.
a 82 I go to near failure and making progress. I need to protect my joints.
I'm 70, and have been pushing iron for 57 years. Trained others and worked with some greats. For the last 5 years I've cut down on sets. 12-18 per body part. I do more drop sets at the end, only going to failure on the last set or two. Choose your exercises wisely and DON'T think you can do the same weight as if you were 20
Not lifting to failure is simply performing something your body is already capable of. That does not provide nearly as much stimulus for hypertrophy as training *beyond* the things your body is capable of. If you can do 10 reps of an exercise with a given weight then simply doing those 10 reps every time you work out will not produce the stimulus necessary to create an adaptive change in your body.
In order to stimulate growth (in strength or size) you need to subject your muscles to a challenge that they simply can not (presently) complete.
Training to failure will *definitely* produce adaptation -- training with 1-2 RIR will likely not produce nowhere near as much(unless you're a newbie).
It's also worth remembering that in a set of 10 reps to failure it's really only the last few reps that are effective in stimulating growth -- the majority of those early reps serve only to exhaust your muscles to the extent that *all* fibres are recruited for those last few.
I perform pyramid workouts and I do all sets after the peak-set to failure but my last set for any exercise is done to "beyond failure". On that last set I keep trying until I simply can't move the weight (while retaining good form) any real amount. This works well for me and since I'm pyramiding I'm effectively drop-setting and that last set is done with quite light weights so the burn is *intense*.
I'm coming up on 72 years of age and, despite this approach, I'm fully recovered within 72 hours of a workout beyond failure. Perhaps I'm just lucky.
I'm 58. I do 1 set to failure and only work out once a week. I'm pretty jacked.
I'm 54 and train to failure on the last set of every exercise. I am in the best physical shape of my life and growing like crazy. So screw what Arnold thinks.
Keep up these informative videos.😊
Early 50's here and I do one exercise per body part and only 3 sets with set 1 the warm up set and sets 2 & 3 the train to failure/almost failure sets. Usually set 2 is a few reps short of failure and set 3 is higher weight to failure/almost failure. This is based on Mike Mentzer's high intensity principles which hold that training sessions should be short and intense instead of long with multiple exercises and sets per body part. I only weight train two days per week and alternate between free weights and machines since free weights stress the joints a little more. This has worked great for me but I'm always open to new ideas.
Any activity is better than none and while increasing intensity has benefits there’s a curve of diminishing returns and increasing danger the more frequently you approach failure.
At sixty eight and weight training since I was a teenager , my joints let me know real quick when I am over doing it. Making gains is a thing of the past for me and I just concentrate on keeping what I have so that I can be physically active. Lighter weights and higher reps seems to work best for me these days and I make sure that I recover long enough. If I don’t, I get to hurting.
I don't know. Everyone's different. I'm 51, been very regularly hitting the gym now for almost 3 years. At first it was just to lose weight. Lost 20 lbs in about 5 months then plateaued. Figured I'd keep going to the gym and try to put on some muscle. For the next 1-1½ yrs I was going to near failure and putting in what I thought was good work. I didn't grain a single lb in that time, or change my body in any way. I started trying all sorts of things to stimulate change. I would never have thought myself a hard gainer, but apparently I am. I've had to greatly increase my protein consumption, and I go to total failure regularly, then even past, squeezing a few more (baby) reps when I can, always keeping good form (I think that's super important). I've learned my body only responds to a ridiculous amount of effort, has to be completely shocked into change. So everyone's different. Listen to what the experts have to say, but listen to your own body more.
Completely makes sense and definitely not my typical routine since I take roughly 70% of my sets to failure. However, I also only workout each muscle group once per week giving plenty of time for recovery since I'm 53....so I wonder if that is one's routine if going to failure more often is okay.....hhmmmmm. Even tried your drop set method and talk about a grind...but the crazy thing is, I may get a little soreness in my chest but my bicep workout I get NO soreness after my drop set bicep workout.....would that tell me that my muscles are handling the failure pretty well with hardly no soreness a day or two afterwards? But I will say that after 3 straight years of working out....with no injuries, my strength gaining and muscle growth has been at a snails pace for roughly 18 months which is why I'm trying out the drop sets. FInally, I would say this is perfect advice for those who work out each muscle group twice per week leaving less time for recovery between workouts.
I agree with you jay. I usually go to failure on my last set.
2 reps in reserve might do the same as 0 reps in reserve. But personally I am unable to stop at 2 and be absolutely sure that I hadn't progressed so that actually was 3 or even 4 in reserve. So I just go to 0. I am fairly good at knowing that was the last rep, but sometimes I will press myself to actual failure to be sure. In my opinion, people are just lazy or afraid because that last few reps sometimes take tears to complete. People just want to stay comfortable. If you are afraid of injury, then choose a somewhat higher rep range. It is lifting too heavy that will injure you, not failing at rep #12.
Makes sense. Thanks for highlighting this!
Hey Jay, looking forward to your show on "why when I try to gain weight, most of the weight goes to my stomach." 😀
As I attack 62, I agree! I approach or reach failure on the last set. I’ve also moved towards Jay Cutler’s mantra of VOLUME! Instead of 3 sets of a movement, I’ll do at least 4 or 5…maybe 6 if I feel the need for more. Slow, controlled reps focusing on the muscle. I’m getting great results with no injuries. Workout smarter as you get older to avoid injuries and increase flexibility work. Stretching and flexibility moves are just as important as we age…found that out the hard way! Flexibility = Mobility!
Arthur Jones trained Arnold twice. He said Arnold was so soft that he could not get him to go NEAR failure. I never pay attention to anything Arnold has said. He simply had great genetics and good drugs. I am good with people going to failure or not to failure. It is simply your choice. Both work.
Kudos Jay! This is the best instruction you have ever given. "Suttle nuances" excellent! I personally liked to use a weight that will allow some acceleration to guide me to not over reach , that is on the concentric side of the movement. Thanks gain.
Go to form failure on early sets, mometary failure and a drop on the last set.
I’m 57 and I do 1 set of failure per muscle group and it’s the last set of my first exercise . The rest are near failure and drop sets.
At 64 I make sure 3 days a week at Gym. I recently went back to free weights after years of multiple machines. I love the feel of a good bench press and am loving my enhanced chest. I always said if you make the Pecs larger the rest looks okay. My routine is bench then other exercise in between like slant board and crunches. So the bench is my main exercise and I love it.
I'm 52 and train most days. I can definitely say I don't go to failure...I will push the set till I think I could get 3 or 4 more out - then I stop - rest 30 seconds - then do another set.
If you go to maximum failure every time for every set, I agree with Metzer, your going to need 4 days of recovery before your next workout.
I can only tell you my experience. I'm 67 and have lifted weights since I was 14. I never lifted for bigger muscles, only for strength. Every set has been to absolute failure. Trying to beat the number of reps at that weight I did in the past. Here is where it has gotten me. At 58 years old I bench pressed (touch and go) 350 lbs for the first time in my life. I had some "life type issues" between 58 yrs. old and 67 yrs. old, but continued to lift. At 66 yrs. old (3 weeks before turning 67 yrs. old) I benched 350 lbs. again. Note that I have been injured only 4 times. Two were due to yard work and two to lifting. One lifting injury was during a deadlift workout. Interrupted during the workout and then returned and injured my lower back. I was in my 20s. The other was an inner pec injury caused by doing dumbbell bench flys and stretching the inner pec too far. I have never been injured on a rep going to failure. Proper warmups are the key.
Note that I weigh 215 lbs.
I think it depends on the person 🤔 People have different systemic fatigue levels and different levels of conditioning. Science is cool, I respect science tremendously but sometimes reality is quite different
Recently, maybe 2-3 weeks ago I really started to push out those hard reps. I had gotten complacent with hitting 12 or 15 reps and stopping. I watched you rvideo and really started pushing that 2-3 extra hard reps.
I am already noticing fuller biceps and rear delts.
I also added a different, Arnold tip on bench. maybe 6 weeks ago I started doing a drop-down failure set of incline DB. My last set of chest every other week is something like 70s to failure, drop to 55 to failure drop to 40 to failure. My chest is responding great.
Personally, the term training to failure is a bit of a double edge sword and for me, the idea of training to failure would only be wise if training a lagging muscle group not a particular type of lift so if the person had undeveloped or weak triceps and was training this triceps with lots of volume however when it came to doing some form of tricep press took the muscle to failure but the load was not excessive like it would be with a bench press because the triceps are being trained in isolation. Lowering the weight and then taking that to failure even as an older person would not bring about damage to the joint or a huge amount of fatigue that would have been introduced much earlier if they had continued to do progressive overload. My case in point is when "training to failure", do a drop set and fail on a lighter weight than fail on a heavy load. Thus bringing yourself past the point of failure. When you actually do fail the load is much lighter. The key is the joints need to be fully warmed up. The exercise is the isolation of a lagging muscle and not a compound lift.
Just my take on the whole aspect of training to failure.
PS "Washington Commanders" that good to know.
Totally makes sense. Unless you are looking into competing or a very advanced lifter then IMO it’s not necessary. Watching someone like Mike Israetel’s workouts is nuts.
One set to failure, or multiple sets short of failure. Both work. In the first case you only have to do the one set, in the second you have to accumulate fatigue over the greater number of sets. They are the same result done in a different way. Going to failure is not necessarily the cause of injury.
I thought Arnold once said that the last few reps of the last set are the most important and that is when you should go to failure. " IDEA FOR ANOTHER OF YOUR VIDEOS " How should you train calves ? High reps low reps heavy or light? I do calves twice/week On one day I do standing one legged calf raises body wt only in the rep range of 15=20 for 3 sets..The other day I use various machines staying in that 3-4 set range.. I am 68,5'11",163 lbs.
Some days you will have different levels of energy. I had a Powerlifting Coach who used to say don't do do much this workout that you can't do more on the next workout. If you're full of energy on one day and really hit it hard, you might ne so eorn out thst you can't recover in time for the next workout. As long as you are increasing the workload over time and you adequately rest and eat enough food, you will make long-term progress..
The Soviet "Grease the Groove" system has something to say as far as functional strength is concerned - far from failure and fatigue.
I'm 62 and I've found that method to be very useful and productive.
I do bodyweight exercises to failure, like pull ups
Maximum effort yields maximum results
“Volume” has its place
I'm 74 and recently benched 320 lbs (touch-and-go) and a few days later a 315 with pause. No drugs or any of that nonsense. I'm not special. No fitness "expert" can tell you what your own body has to say. My attitude is that "failure" is listening to naysayers and not even trying. "Pushing to failure" is how I got where I'm at. Schwarzenegger did drugs, has had more than one heart surgery, and needs to listen to his own body, not direct people down his own questionable path.
yes you can train to failure only issue is we age with hardly much metabolism , what you eat makes the differences.
Its so obvious that going to failure for the elderly is tendon ligament joint problems waiting to happen its called common sense
If you're truly going to failure on every set, you're going to have to be continuously reducing the weight on each successive set.
correct
I think because we're so much more mature and appreciative at our age .These young guns will never understand , too much body mass etc. I,m happy being 57yrs old with 20" guns, glory days are gone lol. Recovering from 2nd heart attack, know your limits and enjoy looking good in the mirror.Putting these wannabes to shame
It could be argued that nobody needs to lift to failure for muscle growth.
Arnold used steroids. His physique as a senior not so impressive. I find I have to work out often or my strength nose dives.
Arnold was on steroids.
Science will give you any outcome you want 😂😂😂😂. Remember the pandemic?
Sorry arnold lost his ability to give advice after endorsing Kamala