This $130 MTB Air Fork works great until it doesn’t
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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I put one of these forks on my 12 year old son's bike and it has worked flawlessly for his riding. Most spring forks are too stiff for light riders, this fits the bill perfectly for them.
is it really worth for 130$ ? I thinking about that.
@@EkskaliertHD better get a used rockshox recon rl or reba
@@cezarh5473 used cost about 200€ but my Budget is lower
@@EkskaliertHD save a bit more, its worth it
@@cezarh5473 ok thanks buddy
You can get an idea by the way the smeash weight jumps back up, as to wich one performed better.
It is not a quantitative measurement, but the fork with less rebound had more plastic deformation going on.
The true test would be to find out which fork is the first to experience a critical failure, because a bent steerer tube is not nearly as catastrophic as a broken one.
@@Durwood71 I agree, it would be ideal to get the full stress-strain curve for each fork, probably outside of the scope of even this channel though.
To keep with the budget upgrades, I think you should buy some CST BFT 2.4’s on it. Should help a lot with grip 🤞
lmfao idk why but the dog B roll is killin me
Gratuitous Oscar shots are 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
That advent derailleur is amazing. 60 bucks for shimano deore quality of shifting and clutch is mint. but I can't attest to the strength of the material as I haven't smashed it on anything yet
Is Shimano really so much more expensive in the US than in Europe? The Deore 5100 derailleur is like 35 Euros over here.
This is actually one of the more common budget fork here in the Philippines and also the Montainpeak X1 fork
Bolany Airfork are Air fork shocks that are worth your money like It's worth the investment Trust me those are good quality air fork shock,but if we Need a bit cheaper good quality Mountain bike Fork that can Go par with Cross country Bikes and enduro even with Trail Bikes, Suntour fork which even the Coil Suntuor fork is already worth Your money like no cap trust me but still Investing on a really good high quality air fork shock like bolany and Higher is worth your money
This bike needs a bit of tuning with some Arc hubs, they are cheap and there are many colors
I love your videos. I have a cannondale.cad3 frame that I had a friend assemble into a mountain bike 25 years ago. It has 26 inch wheels and rim brakes. I love this frame and really want to rebuild it for modern use in nh trails.
I have not kept up with mountain bike technology and have no idea what parts to use. I road this a lot back in the day and cassette and front rings are.worn out and fork is garbage at this point.
I don't know which parts will fit but am mechanical (fix my own mc and cars).
Will 27.5 inch new wheels and the.fork you are testing and a front hydraulic brake work? I have a welder but dont have the confidence to weld a disc brake mount on the rear so figure a rim brake or.adapter might be good enough.
I need a new cassette and gears too and might as well get new derailleurs.
Any advice? At least related to changing to 27.5 wheels from 26? I can get vuelleta (spelling??) Wheels for under $200
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The BOLANY brand of fork here in the Philippines is considered a joke of a fork (arch breaks easily, stanchions breaking in half, very hazardous, etc.) -- ppl here tend to lean towards the Suntour Epixon or Manitou Markhor .. or if futher in a budget, the XCR Suntour fork non air, coil version (those 3 i recommend for the walmart bike you bought recently heh)
love watching your vids!
Epixon for the win! I love the fork it's pretty light has great rebound and was a screaming good deal
Bolantoy pork
true bolantoy
I saw someone from philippines mention the weapon tank 35 budget fork, are they any good?
@@ilsot1 weapon are fine but , makesure the knobs on the axle tighten enough during riding specially on trails ,, sometimes its easy to lose , if youre riding is so aggressive then none of the two is the best for you , those fork can survive but it won't go too long
This fork is basically a meme in the Philippine biking community.
ano ibig sabihin?
Yup. Maybe because a lot of these forks had some issues. Saw lot of vids last year from facebook where this forks getting broken even they are just using it on pavement.
Some users tho doesn't even experience this. Knew some people using them for a couple of years but still works perfectly fine.
Might be some factory defects or what not. But we will never know.
Maybe the company listened to the feedbacks/review made the forka a little bit better.
But, at the end of the day we should invest to a little bit more expensive forks that proved them selves over the years. Buy cheap, buy twice
Bolantoy quickrelease yung crown
@@ericibanez2225 don't gamble with safety nga naman,
To be honest pag ako sumasampa sa bike na naka bolany fork makita ko pa lang yung crown nya parang ayaw ko na pumedal at grabe yung flex nya at lumalagitnit pag pepreno ewan baka nasobrahan sa pagpapagaan at gusto gayahin yung design ni Fox
Bolantoy haha
Might be a good idea for the next iteration of the Smeasher to put the weight into some sort of a guide to ensure precise falling and hitting in the same spot
Also to be a fair test, the weight not to fall off a fork, and bounces multiple times on the other. On the other hand, the fork get the forxe on the axle, not on the bottom of the lower.
Why not connect a rope to the axle, run the rope up through a pulley and have the weight on the other end of the rope, creating a constant pulling force on the fork, allowing for much more precise measurements
Yeah honestly I’m surprised he is still doing a test this same way again considering how flawed it is lol.
Also, the impact should be directed precisely on the dropouts’ using the axle/dummy hub as it’s the wheel that would be impacted in a crash. The steerer should be clamped as close to the crown as possible to simulate where the frame stops flex.
guide rails
I hear $130 fork. I’m buying now.
Damn get a better job
@@RealMTBAddict whoever said I had a job
@@lucaspaytowinbroski7993 lol you just told on yourself. So who is supporting you? Mom/dad or the government?
@@RealMTBAddict is that your problem?
@@dm8941 Lol come get a job where I work. Once you get past the pain you'll make decent money. But you need to have skills to get money.
Is that your problem? No skills?
To really make the Kent trail ready you should put a PNW dropper on it
I just put a Brand-X Ascend II 27.2mm on mine, love it so far. With a seat post adapter sleeve and the external cable routing it was super easy to install.
@@therealandrewlund same
No need, that bike is already a panties dropper
I love these budget builds and I’ve ran many of the typical budget parts myself but the fork is something I definitely recommend saving up for a good entry $200-300 name brand fork.
I couldn’t agree more. I have the coil version and my rebound damper poked through my lowers resulting in a deadly crash. I then had to ride home with a fork that was going a bit extra than it’s travel. I tightened the bolt and it’s gone away. Definitely recommend some threadlocker for the bolt.
I chose to run a Rockshox Judy on my budget bike and would recommend that to anyone. But when I did it 2 years ago it was $170... I think they are now running for over $200.
@@alexbarker7511 I don’t think you know what deadly means
@@TraviNomotion might be deadly depending on the trail it fails on.
@@0xsergy it has to be actually deadly my understanding is if a crash was deadly he’d be dead so he wouldn’t be writing this comment
Just like you mentioned, the suntours will bend bcoz they have steel steerer tubes which is also why they are heavy, they will bend but it will allow you to get home...those balony forks tho have been known to snap at the stanchions...i am not sure tho if they have addressed that issue with these new versions. The prices are also a lot different, the balony retails for around $80-90 here in Asia...the xcr air around $120 but i guess shipping them to the US is more expnsive than frpm Taiwan to us neighbor countries
As this is a budget build, I think it would be interesting to make a cost rundown at the end, to get a reference vs other entry bikes from major MTB companies. (Edit : typos)
this isn't a budget build anymore. He'll have an $1000 bike before he's done with it.
Jesus is my Fox Shock
I"m so glad that you will be giving Suntour products a decent run in future videos instead of beating on their least expensive offerings. That seems important for educating new riders.
Cheap forks are getting better. Better forks are *NOT* getting cheaper.
Dude, your cinematography on this video was awesome. You could definitely make some cool short films in the future!😉
I miss the trail building videos!! When are we gonna see more of that?
Rewatch some old videos. They are still entertaining a 2nd or 3rd time!!
They built a whole bike park and never filmed the build
We’re gearing up for something big!
@@BermPeakExpress I'm so excited
@Oye nothing stopping you filming it and uploading it. I'd bet you paying someone 4 weeks wages to film it would've paid for itself in watch time within 4 weeks. People will watch paint dry if its shot on a nice camera
When you settle on a 'this is good enough' upgraded build of this bike, you should total it all up and see what you can find on the new and used market around that price and see how they compare.
Then try to sell the Kent.... See how much you lose.
Just buy quality 2nd hand, you can resell it for what you payed
You can already get a decent Trek for right around what he has already spent on upgrading this Walmart special.
@@Durwood71 I just bought a 2013 Trek 4900 in very good condition for $400, even the suntour SR XCR forks were in great condition, Avid Elixir 1 brakes that i had to replace the lever blade for $3 each a new FSA chain $20 and new tiers $75. My son loves the bike, overall very happy with the purchase.
Seth putting his life on the line to test a 130$ amazon fork for us 😂
He's not the hero we deserve...
@@gieco9583 but the hero we need
$130.00
@@ScottTheBot07 lol
When you're done building this, you should tally all costs and compare it with a factory bike of equal price. Is it worth it ??
Why not MT200 brakes?
No seth I don't agree with you recommending bolany forks, bc here we have tons of those forks snapped in half, it can cause some really serious injury
Here in Philippines,
the Bolany forks are cost around 2,000 Philippine pesos higher, ( almost like 34 US dollars higher ) but there is alot of rumours that it can break easily around the crown arch.
omsim
So buy something that doesn't break.
@@RealMTBAddict well it's just rumours,
@@RealMTBAddict
No such product m8, anything will fail if given the right conditions ..................
If you're on a budget but needs a durable and good fork go for suntour it ain't gon let you down
The Bolany fork might not be a good choice for extremely technical, tough downhill like you put it through. BUT, for the price, it's probably good upgrade for someone doing light XC and mostly green trail riding. I'm sure it soaks up the bumps a lot better than a spring fork.
I have KRSEC fork on my Felt and its horrible. It bends in every direction and feels like its going to snap! Getting a new fork but thats only my commuting bike so i "should be safe" Chinese forks sucks big time!
Stop rationalizing Chinese crap.
the problem is most people dont stay just riding greens, so either its gonna fail, or you need to buy a new one anyway and youre down 130 for nothing
looks great for kids though
Acolyte does the same for $40
The kettlebell should be replaced with something that slides down rails, can't twist and always hits the fork in the same way. Until then this looks more like messing around than a test.
An interesting video for sure!
I am bad at addition, but between the price of the Kent and the upgrades, it seems like you are in around a grand? I have within the last year bought two beginner-class HTs (a Rocky Mountain Fusion 29er and a 26.5' Polygon* Xtrada-6). Each was slightly under a grand, and came equipped with parts about equal in quality to what you added to the Kent. In fact, the Fusion came with the same Microshift Advent rear mech, which has shifted FLAWLESSLY for about a year. Both are lots of fun to ride on trails that while not scary by Seth standards, are certainly above beginner level. This might be a good alternative for people who would have to pay a mechanic to install some of these upgrades.
*I am definitely a support-your-LBS person, but no local shop currently has bikes in this price range in anything but too small or too big.
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Is there a reason you are inserting the forks into a metal tube before clamping down? If you could clamp to the steerer tube itself you would have way more consistent results and the weight wouldn't keep getting deflected when it hits the fork and makes it rotate.
Several things. 1. During riding, a hard hit will deflect the front end. 2. Clamping directly to the stanchion will influence the test amd also introducing a new failure point (the clamps are toothed and more than likely a harder material than the stanchions). I'd rather see a tighter tolerance for bar or some semblance of bearing. PVC pipe might do to fill the gap.
@@tobins6800 good point about the wheel turning on impacts during actual riding. I'm too lazy to rewatch the cane creek video to see what they did, I don't remember theirs rotating much if at all.
@@TheFalcorion they had it locked down. Seth's set up more replicates real world more so than the cane creek, but the cane creek will yield more repeatable results.
Those Bolany, ZTZ, Lutu, and Bucklos forks seem to use the same parts. I had a Bucklos air fork for my 90lb son. It was smooth out of the box, but it got lots of stiction after 1 trail ride. I tried regreasing the stantions but that only helped for a really short time. The stiction is even too much for little kids and exasperates the small bumps.
If going budget fork, go for the Suntour air fork. My old Epixon is still working flawless and smooth as ever...I did regrease the stantions and oil the foam rings and put 5ml of oil in the air chamber. It feels smoother than my Rockshox 35 Gold.
I just put that Microshift derailleur on one of my bikes, and it has been fantastic! If you are just a weekend warrior who does primarily intermediate riding, save some money over the Shimano/SRAM alternatives and look at Microshift.
my canyon stoic came with one of the beefier xcr's and its handled everything I've thrown at it although it might be a bit heavy it definitely gives me more confidence than the cheap amazon fork i had on another bike
I thought I'd be swapping mine straight away but really can't fault it
@@jonnyboi2536 same here
i have an XCR too and it's a great fork, it's bulletproof
Hi Seth I have the same fork as you do and for the long term review is the lock out is not the best but that all of my complaints now the lock out is not working but so far it's still good af after 2 years I only service it once
What this has me asking myself is: at what point are you better off just buying a frame and building from scratch with cheap parts?
How much would you spend on a good frame? That might be the factor if you can get a good one at a good price
Seth- I’m loving this series. As you take the the bike to its final form, can you list the new total price at the end of each episode?
I ran Bolany before. Even I rode with it for more than 1 year without issues, I will not recommend it. There are lots of videos showing the fork break easily, particularly the steerer tube. SR Suntour is a trustworthy brand, I trust it more on lifetime than the Bolany even it's heavier. Also, Bolany on Amazon costs higher than on Aliexpress. On the latter, it costs around 60 USD.
fork with aliexpress is no worse than santur himself checked)
Love how Seth kept the dork disc on in keeping with the bike's roots.
ive had 2 of these bologna forks and they are a great cheap upgrade but the magnesium lowers arent very strong on one of the forks I snapped off where the quick release skewer goes but that was after some jump trails and rocky downhill they're a great cheap upgrade for a light to intermediate rider
This "Bolany" fork is produced in the city where I live and I don't trust it yet 😂 , in fact I can buy this fork online for 50-80$ (depends on what model you want) but I still believe Suntour Raidon/XCR or some old model from RST are way better options for a budget build.
Im a 11 year old
And i love watching ur videos
But i wish my parents would allow me to buy these kinds of stuff to upgrade my $280 bicycle
Seth, love your stuff, but I do have some criticisms of the test rig.
Biggest issue I see is the fork is not being tested the way it is set up in the bike. The fork crown is not carrying the load from and impact the way it would be in the bike. The steerer is being allowed to absorb a lot of energy that would otherwise be run through the structure of the fork.
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That was a great vid! My son rides my old ‘Trek 3500’ bike (the fork has had it’s day). I may look for a new fork for it. 👍
I've seen lots of Bolany forks break at XC races lol, it's crazy people here would defend the brand saying it wasn't supposed to be used on trail wherein it's not only supposed to be used in Free Ride and Down Hill.
You couldn't pay me to run one of those cheapo Chinese air forks. More power to you if you're that desperate, but for the cost of one of those you could literally find a used, older fork that's not going to potentially kill you.
It actually _doesn't_ go without saying that you trail-tested a new fork, not the one you "smeashed". Thanks for clarifying.
I had the Bucklos fork and it came faulty and the company wouldn’t refund me. 👎
I had a Bologna fork on a fatbike and it was horrid. The amount of inner to outer stanchion play was brutal only after a few rides. Hold the front brake and rock your bike fore/aft. How much play is there?
Mr Seth please throw this so called “smasher” in the river. It’s just boring.
I've seen cracked lowers with these forks. I would not buy it. I can get a Rock Shox second hand for cheaper.
Hey Seth, on videos like this where you ride on a trail, would you consider putting the name of the trail and its general location in the video description? I live fairly close to you and would love to go on some of the trails I see in your videos. Thanks!
First
Great. Now do 30 pull-ups and shut up.
One type of model of the Bolany forks is that the orange stanchions actually break from a foot jump. I think there is a video of it where it breaks. Kinda scarry
The kent is dope with the amazon fork and all the other upgrades. You've made the best out of the "worst" parts. Cheapest dropper next?
How's your puppy I noticed he was eating grass usually dogs do that if they are not feeling well.
I realy wanna ride snake pit or teeter cannon just maybe on a fork that won’t break the instants I land lol
search for the weapon animal pro air fork.. I wanna see it in action and criticisms like the bolany fork...
the "weapon animal pro air" fork just costs at 140 USD but the travel has 200mm in it... it also got that rebound adjuster but no lock out
it also is a dual crown thing. and 34mm stanchions
you should have bought suntour epixon instead of xcr
he was trying to get something that was a little bit more then the Bolony fork, the Suntour Epixon is almost $300 so not really a budget a fork.
Oh yeah i forgot about that part
Given how the fork is mounted in the stand vs how it's supposed to be mounted in a bike, I would be curious where the bending is occurring. Seems it should be mounted similar to how it would be in a bike with a set of bearings. I wouldn't expect the steer tube of the fork to be designed to take a perpendicular load like that.
You can see it bananed the steerer in the middle.
Yes it should be mounted on a bearing hard up on the crown race.
The impact test is real world, hitting gutters/rocks or Seth's crazy roll in (the of version ) but casing the front tyre falling short of a jump is when they snap.
If you watch the canecreek video he's copying or look up real snapped fork steerer's, the tube collapses right as the base of the steerer tube.
Thanks for giving us your imputs about low cost bikes and parts for those who want to enjoy the trails but can't afford a better hardware... now this Kent Trouvaille will be almost at the same level and configuration my GT Avalanche 2020 has, with the XCR32 .. I like the bike the way it is right now, but I'm looking forward for your impressions!
Best regards from Brazil, I love your channel Seth!
I have a Bolany fork on my everyday commute bike. Put some foam rings and better seals, the performance lasts and it feels a lot smoother 👌
That’s exactly what I was thinking, those stock seals seem to have an appetite for dirt and debris
Does that feel like it gonna break? Im gonna get one soon because im using suntour xcm or should i go with suntour EPIXON
What kind of seals did you replace it with?
You should do flight attendant review on your reveal
What a bunch of Baloney... 😂😂😂 Great review! Question... Is your GoPro clipped to your jersey, or is it some kind of hidden chest mount? That footage looks excellent. Very stable.
Im glad to hear you're still liking the zoom breaks. I just picked up the one's you linked on amazon for my girlfriend's Liv tempt we bought her this past summer for about $600
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This is the Philippines National Downhill Freeride Fork!
That final xcr 32 came with my bike, I thought I'd swap it straight away but 18 months later and I can't fault it, rock shox equivalent would be a little lighter but can't fault the performance!
I have one of those forks for a fat bike, if you are under 200lbs it works. Heavier than that not so much, it becomes a noodle.
That suntour XCR fork is a great option. We have them on a few of our rental bikes and they are bomb proof. They will do thousands more km that the coil suntour without any servicing and still work like a dream.
Bro my Suntour XCT 30 fork is inconsistent in terms of performance. Sometimes it feels too stiff while sometimes it feels perfect. I actually didn't service my fork for about a year but when I did, I found out that the stanchions were wearing out near the seals. Also, within few days of service my fork feels too stiff.......any solution?
I love that you take the time to investigate these. Btw when you say the SR Suntour can be left in the backyard for 10 years... some of their new forks degrade very quickly under normal use, stuck wheel axles because of rust are common after a few weeks.
More dog eating grass please and thank you
like the long sleeve camo Berm Peak jersey
i'm just gonna assume the suntour is a little bit safer over time. the balogna like you said might snap and cause the rider to get injured. and to be fair i don't know much about bikes but i know that i would not be riding one if i felt unsafe on it.
I partially agree with you. Everyone knows that some parts in automobiles are specially designed to deform largely during crashes to absorb energy. But I guess that these low-budget builds are for gravel rides around 30km/h. If you want to go extreme, definitely the hospital fee would be more expensive than any premium bike parts.
You’re definitely working under laboratory conditions. This is science at its finest.
I'm sure you may have already encountered the YT channel Project Farm, but if you haven't, I believe you could pick up some more test ideas. Thanks for your efforts to help us budget minded riders make choices that are ultimately safe!
"We're going to test that!"
Gonna be getting mopar gasket maker from now on xd. Already got a dewalt trimmer because of his videos lol.
Another enjoyable and informative video, thanks crew! Nice relaxing music at 4:05 🙂
I have a bit weird question: can a cheap budged fork likewise XCM30 itself be reconfigured into something better anyhow (like air, oil or better coil system at least)?
I dont think so, if you want to convert it to air, its not designed to do so, its not compatible. But if you service your fork then it will be definitely better!
Bennet's Gap is a excellent choice for fork testing!
The XCR air is actually decent, but it is heavy. With a little more money you can get a Raidon (or even better Epixon), which is much lighter fork
Whats the difference between raidon and epixon
I use to have one of those generic air forks, one thing is for sure, if it has the same compression switch same as yours then it is definitely a generic "rebranded" air fork which doesn't last long. You can check every generic fork in the market and you'll see that they all have the same compression switch and built. They just change the sticker brands 😅 But yeah they are good for kids bikes which doesn't get that much beating. Now I upgraded to Suntour XCR airfork which is quite known for durability and it works very well. Thanks for the good and honest review.
Is no one gonna talk about 6:18 ? 🤨🤨
Love these videos with the budget bike! Definitely interesting to see you ride it and upgrade it. Great work!
2:19 Oscar is so deep in thought right there, maybe "I can't put up with his suspension shenanigans any longer, i mean look at this"
Why not have a straight handle bar??
I have the microshift advent 9spd drivetrain on my voodoo braag 2022. It's a brilliant drivetrain and it comes stock on the bike. It comes with a 120mm suntour xcm32 coil fork with boost thru 100x15mm. It's a 29ner. And has routing for a dropper post. It's comes stock with Clarks clout 1 hydraulic disc brakes and 800mm wide bars. And for £575 I think that's a pretty capable hardtail
A pretty capable but overweight hard tail. Get rid of the coil!
@@MichaelRei99 I have. I put on a 150mm travel SR suntour raidon 34 air fork and it makes it soo much more lighter..
Can we also please get a link for the Suntour air fork?
Love your videos Seth 💙
Seth, I threw one of these Balogna forks on the wife's Diamondback Lux and it stayed for less than 2 miles around the neighborhood. During normal light braking to slow down for a 4 way stop, the fork lower and upper juddered uncontrollably. I did a full tear down and rebuild thinking it was maybe just a loose top cap or seal somewhere. Nope. Just terribly fitted seals. Returned and threw on a $200 Manitou Markhor. Completely day and night difference for the better.
I'm running a Himalo Drift on my shitbike. Its kinda impressive how passable the cheap stuff is getting now. I swapped out pretty much everything on the department store frame I bought all for less than an entry level hardtail and it performs better than the few I've tested. Probably won't last as long as good quality stuff but honestly the building, servicing and testing out these things is more fun than just regular riding lol.
my bike cost 90$
Same lol second hand 90 bucks
Awesome video, stoked to see the Suntour installed too. One thing though, can you start selling hats? I'd totally rock a berm peak hat.
Here in the Philippines 🇵🇭 Bolany had a bad reputation
Dork disk alert @8:19!! LOL
Part of the stiction might be air getting trapped in the fork. Slipping a zip tie under the dust seals can burp it if there is pressure building up in the lowers.
Shouldn't happen just after one ride though.
@@sp00n it’s a cheap amazon fork tho
I’ve had a SR Suntour Raidon 32mm x 120mm fork on my hard tail for the last three years. It can take anything I’ve pointed it down. Much better than the stock xcm32, only lasted a couple months.
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Very interesting series, been following since the beginning and def interested to see how that "upgraded" Suntour fork performs compared to the Balogna. Since I know this is a popular series, I think after the fork upgrade, you should put on a nice set of reasonably priced, wider rimmed wheels, something in the i30-35 range and maybe try fitting some 2.6" tyres in that thing, especially in the back,
You forgot to say , "it's time to stare at it!"😂
Hey Seth , can you do a pressure test on the forks ,how much down pressure on normal drops to see if there worth the money