I just bought one a week ago :D very very nice to drive,, on my roads (mainly 'b's and unlisted's) has beaten my expectations, absoutley slaughtered my old 528i both in straight line speed and cornering.
Baby Shark You should, but the Mustang is the Special Olympics of the car culture, so maybe it’s not the best comparison? My Celica GT4 WRC (turbo/AWD)in black on black favors the MKIV Supra so much with the stock high wing and the same overall body shape only shorter. If I had a dollar for every car guy that pulled up and said “Nice Supra!” I’d have enough to buy an identical Supra to park between it and my SW20 MR2 Turbo! 🤣 My MKII Turbo gets the most love. My girlfriend still can’t understand why so many people at lights fawn all over it. Feels like being a rockstar because it happens nearly every day. Here it is if you care to look: ua-cam.com/video/fJ3w9QJgMNg/v-deo.html It’s fully built putting close to 400whp but can easily be turned to 500whp with the mods it already has. Here’s some great pics and it’s mod list: www.6gc.net/celicas/1994-gt-hatchback-8625 Do you have vids of yours?
Je possède une Toyota Célica depuis novembre 2001de couleur noire achetée neuve. Elle affiche 313 000 kms au compteur, performance kilométrique remarquable en réponse à un entretien minutieux. Je suis un inconditionnel fan de la série 7 du coupé Célica. Elle a une ligne exceptionnelle qui n'a pas pris "une ride" après 21années. J'aime ma Célica. Elle roule merveilleusement. Je viens juste de faire une vidange totale du circuit de refroidissement et j'ai changé la courroie des accessoires.
@@TolioNp Nope - officially its 7.2 but if you keep it in lift its 5.9-6 seconds. Loads of 0-60's on here running those times stock. The rare TRD version was even quicker.
3 months to late but buy it. Reliability is spot on. The only thing you'll miss is the power unless you buy the vvtl-i. coming from a 10 years owner of a vvt-i, i just had to turbo charge mine after 3 years.
I wish i can by the celica for under 1000 euro, coz in mine country a 2001 celica still cost 2500 euro and a 2003 celica 3500/4500 euro and with many miles.
@@next3576 they go for 8000 euro average with some well preserved ones reaching to 14k here in Greece. 192 hp out of 1,8 lts in countrys with extremely high taxation and anual registration fees like mine, few cars can compensate for the wallet of the average joe. Fuel consamption is another plus.
@@next3576 that is actually a decent business plan, minus the fact that sports cars market is at an all time low at the moment, u could actually do that yeah. Considering that the car is left-hand drive only.
Honestly I think my GT-S still looks like a fairly new car. It aged extremely well and with LED mods etc etc, it certainly feels modern. I don't need anything newer ever.
Driven this and the previous Toyota Celicas and often thought that Toyota Celicas on the whole had better handling than the Toyota MR2 models (especially the Mark 2 model MR2) Celicas with being front wheel drive have great handling, fuel economy and even distribution weight to the road compared with MR2. The MR2 Mark 2 is mid engine and rear wheel drive but is too rear heavy and does not compare at all to most BMW's I've driven that were all rear - wheel drive. I think the Celica was a great car right up to the current model, shame why Toyota discontinued it.
@TH4U some guy on here says he prefers the Hyundai V6 so lame .my Celica gets looks everytime I drive it by young and old it always gets comments it looks futuristic and it's a 2002 model it's blue full leather rear black out windows and factory fitted spoiler plus 18 inch black alloys and a extremely big exhaust pops and bangs .yet my lexus is quite smooth and elegant it's the navigator model love them both
What a beautiful car even 20 years later in terms of design! Unfortunately.. Toyota really used some absolute trash paint products back in those days so even a well maintained vehicle has tons of paint chips.
This I have noticed. Granted mine has a cheap spray job on it (red) but the front bumper piece is riddled with rock chips at 141K miles while my 88' Supra doesn't really have any of that on it's front bumper (but does on the upper hood). Not a shocker that a "cheap" car like this would have lesser paint than something as expensive as the old Supra though.
vast majority You just tried to hint at Volvo and 'Unreliable' to go in the same sentence? Not a single t5 i've ever owned has EVER left me stranded. Where on earth you got that idea who knows.
TC and Celica were sold at the same time at one point. Theyre not really related besides the fact theyre both 4 cylinder Toyota coupes. Nothing but differences after.
It actually does sub 7 seconds 0-60 ,, 140 vvti (slower version does 8.7 secs - I think this is the first time Hammond got figures wrong 😮 but thanks to this video - not many people were bothering with vvtli 2zz and bouth slow 140 1zz - that makes my 2003 Tsport 2zz more uniqe (plus mine is yellow 😂 and is still in pristine condition - prices are going up - future classic soon - I am absolutely redlining this car on a daily basis (onlynwith warm engine as luckily its idiot proof and cuts revs @7000 when cold -- 8200 warm , I just kept changin the oil every 3000 miles, or straight after a track day -- yes these are quiet fun on the tracks (lowered of course and Toyo's TR1 and een EBC Greenstuff pads does the job due to lightnes of the car + mine is on Adjustable Tein Coilovers . Save The Dagons!
Buying an old Celica like this (unless it was already in impeccable shape) is not going to help you escape the reality of age lol. With payments, mine will be $10K as of a few months ago. Along with the $2,000 of aftermarket parts I put on, it still needs a lot of minor stuff, at least $3K worth. Not the easiest car to pick, but one of the absolute coolest.
You know, this is a great car. It looks good and is top of its class. It even makes for an excellent racing car. But i always find myself saying "I wish there was a sedan based on it". I'll have my 160hp, 2500lb fwd celica sedan and like it very much :P
The XRS is too top heavy, and while the corolla is a good platform its not Celica good. XRS is a sporty sedan. A sedan based on a celica would be an sports car.
0:45 if you are referring to the previous model of this car in those terms, then, with all due respect Richard, I am not going to take you very seriously .
@@omniscient4499 it's a bit of a hidden gem if you get one with Lift. (190) overall these are brilliant in the corners and make you feel like you are in something special... they can be 'quick' but you need to be adapted to driving one, and keeping it above 6200 rpm. Smiles are guaranteed though!
Nick H Actually, i have one currently, as my first car. only 187 bhp as an american spec car. mine has a 6speed, and i drive it every so often to get used to it
Mine was. The previos owner needs to be castrated. Runs, spots where it was touched when the paint was wet, too thin a coat so all the little bitty rocks reveal red dots all over the front bumper. Disgusting. Good thing nobody can see when you zip by 😂
I don't think he is talking about the VVTI engine oil burn issue but that both the VVTLI and VVTI engines both have small oil pans and as as result of relatively small amount of oil in these engines- corning at high speeds, more likely on track, can cause the oil to move up the side and starve the engine temporarily causing pressure loss and engine failure- something that can only be solved by replacing the pan with one of larger capacity and baffling and increasing oil amount. These little Celica cars are pretty good non the less.
NathanCelica no, the 2zz would spin a bearing if ypu went around a corner hard at high rpm. It sloshes away from the pickup tube and the bottom end runs dry. A half seco d is all it takes. A moroso oil pan fixes this. Also, over rev it, the oil pump goes. And iy runs dry. Spun bearing lol
BS Or Not? The standard vvti (1zz-fe) oil sump was baffled, oddly enough the 2zz-ge wasn’t but easy enough to swap out, or upgrade. The 2zz’s standard oil pump was reliable when used on a standard set up I don’t know of any have that gone ‘yet’ except on FI set up engines.
vvtli* and there is a reason it is at high rpm, changing it to any sooner than about 5800rpm you end up being slower. and why are you expecting lots of torque from a 1.8?
Yeah, this baby has only 20 less engine HP than my 88 Supra, but the torque difference (even though my Supra is 1,000 lbs (!) heavier) is pretty massive. Don't even have to gas the Supra uphills it just takes it. This Celica you would really have to petal to the metal or high-rev it. I still love both of my cars though.
@@arcanevoid9199 I only got the auto, but if I rev it higher in M-mode, it might be more tolerable. It needs high revs to really get it going where as the Supra doesn't really care.
@@MsFilmiki I have a 190 VVTL-i and there's no chance its sub 7 seconds. I would doubt it even the day after they came out of the factory. My last T-sport got terrorised off a Mk 6 Golf GTI... until the corners of course. I wish they were quicker. (I have owned a 140, TS and currently on a 190)
@@jasonjuggler3457 I love it. You definately need an aftermarket exhaust for the engine note. It's the way the car makes you feel. Low slung, high door cards and it's confident handling. They are getting to the stage where they need restoration though. I got a new subframe put on the rear as well as some camber arms. Are you thinking of getting one :) ? They're starting to go up in price now (the 190s)
I considered this too. But the engines are dog slow and so disengaging. I really wanted to love the V6 aswell; but it just hasn't been maximised to it's potential .
@@nh1848 you have to drive the car.is like a car with 200hp.i had the celica and the v6 and i sold the celica.the v6 gives to me 184hp to wheels.great engine
@@coupe6339 I drove the TSiii V6 and I guess I expected more torque out of it. Don't get me wrong, I love the Coupe; but it could have been so much more.
Might be a bit of a squeeze, I'm 6ft and my comfortable driving position has the seat pretty close to as far back as it goes. I guess it all depends on whether you've got long legs or it's your torso that's big. Keep in mind that when you do find a comfortable position literally no one will be able to sit in the seat behind you
vubevube You compare the 140hp SSI version to those. My old ST-204 and my friend’s GT (SSI) were dead even in speed. We raced and modded those cars for years back in our twenties.
Neg Ative well i've had a vvt-i celica which i turbocharged to have 230bhp and it was amazing. It was only missing a LSD to be perfect. But i agree stock ones are not realy quick.
@Neg Ative: I own a jap import gen 6 celica SSii 178bhp model. And it is quite a rapid car. PS: In the 6 gen, UK equivalent of my SSii is the GT with the hardcore 2.0 3SGE engine SSi equivalent in the UK came with a softer economical version of the version of the 2.0 in the forn of a 3SFE (130hp)
Compare to Celica models before; To be honest, this Celica is the most boring ones. 1) the design suck. 2) the engine no turbocharger suck. 3) the cabin suck. No wander,this kind of model is failure in the market. Even Toyota acknowledge it too.
They said the same about my 88' Supra NA. Both that and my 01' Celica GT-S are the fastest cars BY FAR I've ever owned. They aren't speed demons, but man they never ever feel slow.
Christophe Ayres just cause you havent seen one doesnt mean they dont exist. Look em up on youtube. Ive seen plenty, im in a few fb groups and theres a bunch there too. Often see reallllly clean ones selling for under £2k
Not that so much as it's extremely rare to find these things under 200K miles come up for sale. A few months ago a 01' GT-S with 141K miles came up at a dealer and I just had to take it. $ 7.5K, or after my payments about $10K. Would be grand but aside from all the aftermarket stuff I put on it, it still needs several grand to fix the moonroof leaks, motor mounts, and lift bolt issue...
Not the best Toyota product... it's Yamaha co-designed 2ZZ-GE engine is fragile. Can't handle overrev and oil can pool in the head during cornering, both typical for sporty driving.
oil doesnt pool in the head, it gets pushed to one side of the oil pan because there is not enough baffling. this is not just an issue with this car, and you have to be cornering quite hard for it to happen
@@JReiid that doesnt solve the issue at all, common misconception. a proper moroso pan is the only way to actually fix it. the 140 pan isnt actually baffled, it just has the windage plates on the pan instead of on the engine like the 190 pan. toyota literally said to not use the 140 pan, because it can cause issues
@@arcanevoid9199 Had people have success with it in the Celica clubs on Facebook but fairenough. Gen 7 definitely inferior to the Gen 6 that’s for sure
Not really. Considering it's the same engine in a Lotus Elise. I suppose only a douchebag would really care what others thought. It's meant to have fun in. Stick a 3" straight through and a custom back box with a CAI intake and it sounds quite brutal for an N/A engine.
The styling on this car looks great after all these years.
From the outside, it doesn't look much older than 5 years. I just bought one, getting it t his week.
I just bought one a week ago :D
very very nice to drive,, on my roads (mainly 'b's and unlisted's) has beaten my expectations, absoutley slaughtered my old 528i both in straight line speed and cornering.
And I just tried replacing the rear brake rotors and pads. End of story: the whole goddamn caliper was so rusty it fell apart. Shit, I say!
thats an ownership issue,, everyone knows yota's rust,, fuck look at the recall they had on the tacoma's in america.. 5 billion dollars.
Credit to the stylists because this car still looks good today.
True story bruuh
Seriously, it’s fucking ugly. Now a MKII MR2 Turbo is a timeless design.
@@negativeindustrial Ugly would be the MK4 Supra. The Celica is sexy to me.
Hakeem Sd70M
You think the MKIV is an ugly car? What about the ST-205 Celica GT4 WRC?
Baby Shark
You should, but the Mustang is the Special Olympics of the car culture, so maybe it’s not the best comparison?
My Celica GT4 WRC (turbo/AWD)in black on black favors the MKIV Supra so much with the stock high wing and the same overall body shape only shorter. If I had a dollar for every car guy that pulled up and said “Nice Supra!” I’d have enough to buy an identical Supra to park between it and my SW20 MR2 Turbo! 🤣
My MKII Turbo gets the most love. My girlfriend still can’t understand why so many people at lights fawn all over it. Feels like being a rockstar because it happens nearly every day.
Here it is if you care to look: ua-cam.com/video/fJ3w9QJgMNg/v-deo.html
It’s fully built putting close to 400whp but can easily be turned to 500whp with the mods it already has. Here’s some great pics and it’s mod list:
www.6gc.net/celicas/1994-gt-hatchback-8625
Do you have vids of yours?
It still looks so good! But without the spoiler a bit naked
Je possède une Toyota Célica depuis novembre 2001de couleur noire achetée neuve. Elle affiche 313 000 kms au compteur, performance kilométrique remarquable en réponse à un entretien minutieux. Je suis un inconditionnel fan de la série 7 du coupé Célica.
Elle a une ligne exceptionnelle qui n'a pas pris "une ride" après 21années. J'aime ma Célica.
Elle roule merveilleusement. Je viens juste de faire une vidange totale du circuit de refroidissement et j'ai changé la courroie des accessoires.
8.7s is for the gt140hp. Stock gts does it in late 6s
well the gts is around 7.8 sec. to be honest.
@@TolioNp Nope - officially its 7.2 but if you keep it in lift its 5.9-6 seconds. Loads of 0-60's on here running those times stock. The rare TRD version was even quicker.
This was a vvti 190....
@@SpartanQwop this was a 140 hp one. You clearly didn’t pay any attention
@@SpartanQwop i own one with just an exhaust and intake it does 6s~ roughly all day no problem
Scotty Kilmer *favourite car*
Hi has anybody had many bad experiences with a 2004 1.8l Toyota celica red edition were looking at buying one tomorrow!!!! for £750 please reply
3 months to late but buy it. Reliability is spot on. The only thing you'll miss is the power unless you buy the vvtl-i. coming from a 10 years owner of a vvt-i, i just had to turbo charge mine after 3 years.
I wish i can by the celica for under 1000 euro, coz in mine country a 2001 celica still cost 2500 euro and a 2003 celica 3500/4500 euro and with many miles.
@@next3576 they go for 8000 euro average with some well preserved ones reaching to 14k here in Greece. 192 hp out of 1,8 lts in countrys with extremely high taxation and anual registration fees like mine, few cars can compensate for the wallet of the average joe. Fuel consamption is another plus.
@@oneofu1803
Then i buy in mine country for 2000 euro a Toyota celica and sell it in your country for 8000 euro minus import tax.
@@next3576 that is actually a decent business plan, minus the fact that sports cars market is at an all time low at the moment, u could actually do that yeah. Considering that the car is left-hand drive only.
Mot expired!
they look really strange without a spoiler
I think, she's look better without spoiler :) everyone has a different taste. Peace and love Celica :D
The only celica of this make that I’ve seen be able to pull off the no spoiler look was a very clean all silver one
For a car that’s been around since 2000, it looks like it could have came out in 2010.
The second model looks like it's from 2015+
@@bow-89what model are you referring to? The facelift?
Honestly I think my GT-S still looks like a fairly new car. It aged extremely well and with LED mods etc etc, it certainly feels modern. I don't need anything newer ever.
Celica has class.
In 2018. This car still look awesome.
And you can pick them up with about 100k on the clock for £600!
@@shanelewis7052 got mine for £150 ;)
How much do you pay for insurance in UK for having cars that inexpensive?
@@ZodiakAsHell rediculous amounts. This car for me on my first year of driving was about £7000 to insure
@@couldbeowen5826 really? It was my first car, 19 years old, was 1.3k a year. Youre being ripped off.
That car still looks good in 2023!
Bought my car new in 2001. Still driving it today June 2023. Great car.
How many miles?
Just bought a 2000 vvti 1.8 with 60k on the clock. Looking forward to this summer haha
Hows the expirience" and price
VvtLi, or vvti?
Just bought a mint 2003 Celica with Matrix engine...Lots of fun to drive and nice looking.
I miss the old school pop up light ones 🔥🙌
Better looking than this one in my opinion.
One of Toyota's best sports cars of the past 20 years
Imho it looks even cooler than a 2000GT of the 60s
If this car was RWD, it would've been a great success and its price would be a lot higher today. I really don't get why they didn't.
mistreku there’s lots to be had in a well balanced fwd
economy is the answer unfortunately. But they could at least put an LSD in it. Look at the Integra success, the Celica only lacks that LSD.
Fwd is cheaper to manufacture plus there is the benefit of using already produced engines from regular bread and butter cars in the range.
Nyoman Satria Adhitya Putra Merada are you talking about ST 205? Because we are talking about the 7th gen, not 6.
I'm happy they didn't. Means I could theoretically get one as my first car ^^
All this needs to make is perfect is a 1000 rpm lower VVT kick in and RWD
I had one lasted 20 years marvellous car ...midnight blue x
Driven this and the previous Toyota Celicas and often thought that Toyota Celicas on the whole had better handling than the Toyota MR2 models (especially the Mark 2 model MR2) Celicas with being front wheel drive have great handling, fuel economy and even distribution weight to the road compared with MR2. The MR2 Mark 2 is mid engine and rear wheel drive but is too rear heavy and does not compare at all to most BMW's I've driven that were all rear - wheel drive. I think the Celica was a great car right up to the current model, shame why Toyota discontinued it.
hook stunk Danis, You cant really compare a BMW to an MR2 though,
Both had completely different style of drivetrains
I ❤️ my black Celica GT 143 HP (2002) 😎
i love the celica.. i bought a TS (the 192hp version) last april... it runs perfectly after 200k km ..
runs perfect after 200,000 miles ;)
@@fraserbrown3979 Yes 2zz celica is a very reliable machine!
8.7 seconds to 60 is the 140bhp 1.8 model. Not for the 190bhp one get your facts right hamster 🤔😎
@TH4U I got a gen 7 plus a lexus GS300 both awesome cars in their own right
@TH4U some guy on here says he prefers the Hyundai V6 so lame .my Celica gets looks everytime I drive it by young and old it always gets comments it looks futuristic and it's a 2002 model it's blue full leather rear black out windows and factory fitted spoiler plus 18 inch black alloys and a extremely big exhaust pops and bangs .yet my lexus is quite smooth and elegant it's the navigator model love them both
What a beautiful car even 20 years later in terms of design! Unfortunately.. Toyota really used some absolute trash paint products back in those days so even a well maintained vehicle has tons of paint chips.
Yup, mine is an 05 and its full of chips and rust. Still looks amazing
This I have noticed. Granted mine has a cheap spray job on it (red) but the front bumper piece is riddled with rock chips at 141K miles while my 88' Supra doesn't really have any of that on it's front bumper (but does on the upper hood).
Not a shocker that a "cheap" car like this would have lesser paint than something as expensive as the old Supra though.
best relatively fast car for under 1k? i think so
Best? No that would be a Volvo c/s/v70 T5.. 250bhp for about 600 quid.. I Def think so !
best relatively fast RELIABLE car for under 1k. i forgot to add the word "reliable"
vast majority
You just tried to hint at Volvo and 'Unreliable' to go in the same sentence? Not a single t5 i've ever owned has EVER left me stranded. Where on earth you got that idea who knows.
Maybe he was the guy who used to own that 1 pound Volvo that made it onto top gear? :D
I have this car atm and my Ford Puma 1.7 would have driven rings around it on a twisty track.
I have this same car
in forza......
marc it isnt even on forza
Nelson Neal in forza 3
They are like 700£
I've got one in real life 😉
U can get one in real life for really cheap
I love that damn car! Its been my very long term project car and its still fun to this day even after 11 years of ownership. Check out my channel :)
Seems that he didn't do his research properly as he is driving the 1.8 vvtLi and not the 1zz vvti
Toyota Celicas and Honda Integras. Both very beautiful machines. Much like their successors the Scion tC and Acura RSX.
I need a celica
redbull rangers I've got the 140hp one. 250k km's and still going.
im here
@@celicazalfa7693 you’re not a Celica you’re a person
Interested in 1 of these but seems many on auto trader are suffering from rust & corrosion but still seem mechanically reliable.
I love my Scion tc! This is great to see what the tc was like before scion was a brand
TC and Celica were sold at the same time at one point. Theyre not really related besides the fact theyre both 4 cylinder Toyota coupes. Nothing but differences after.
They share brakes lol
rwd would be more fun
Yea but its still Great car
@@theretr074 i really cant disagree
It actually does sub 7 seconds 0-60 ,, 140 vvti (slower version does 8.7 secs - I think this is the first time Hammond got figures wrong 😮 but thanks to this video - not many people were bothering with vvtli 2zz and bouth slow 140 1zz - that makes my 2003 Tsport 2zz more uniqe (plus mine is yellow 😂 and is still in pristine condition - prices are going up - future classic soon - I am absolutely redlining this car on a daily basis (onlynwith warm engine as luckily its idiot proof and cuts revs @7000 when cold -- 8200 warm , I just kept changin the oil every 3000 miles, or straight after a track day -- yes these are quiet fun on the tracks (lowered of course and Toyo's TR1 and een EBC Greenstuff pads does the job due to lightnes of the car + mine is on Adjustable Tein Coilovers . Save The Dagons!
This car could have been a pikes peak record breaker if toyota had put the 2.0 turbo 4x4. System
Famed driver Ron McMillan did race one on pikes peak, called the Pikes Peak Celica and broke many records with it.
I’m getting one
I’m proud to own two. 😂 one regular automatic and this one black. 6 speed ever parts from Japan
I know I’m young, I’m 13, I am going to buy one and do it up. It would help me escape reality
Buying an old Celica like this (unless it was already in impeccable shape) is not going to help you escape the reality of age lol. With payments, mine will be $10K as of a few months ago.
Along with the $2,000 of aftermarket parts I put on, it still needs a lot of minor stuff, at least $3K worth. Not the easiest car to pick, but one of the absolute coolest.
You know, this is a great car. It looks good and is top of its class. It even makes for an excellent racing car. But i always find myself saying "I wish there was a sedan based on it". I'll have my 160hp, 2500lb fwd celica sedan and like it very much :P
is in America, the Corolla XRS
Dragon Butt Supra:V
A supra weighs as much as my ford taurus (around 3300lbs). Also they arent the best handling things, being japanese muscle cars and all :P
The XRS is too top heavy, and while the corolla is a good platform its not Celica good. XRS is a sporty sedan. A sedan based on a celica would be an sports car.
honestly i think it's pretty ugly in comparison to the previous generations. at least up til gen 5... gen 6 is kinda wonky as well imo
The headlights look like spidermans eyes lmao
Somebody actually built a Spiderman-mobile off of this
8.7 seconds lol if you are granny shifting!
I love these things
Always a good watch. Glad it came up on my feed again.
I hate how you pronounce celica....seelickah
Not right
A timeless beauty
I still love it
Celica 2022 gang rise up
Bought mine in November, already aftermarket doll'd it up. She's amazing, but needs a lot of work (motor mounts/lift/moonroof leaks)
People keep talking about the styling when this thing could keep up with Integra Type R's costing way more.
0:45 if you are referring to the previous model of this car in those terms, then, with all due respect Richard, I am not going to take you very seriously .
I have 2003 very nice
looking at getting one of these for my first car anyone know roughly how much it would be to insure
Got one for my son 8 months ago. I can tell you it's more than my 1995 Mustang GT
£400 a year so?
if you’re in ireland about 3-4 g and that’s if they even decide to give you a quote
Get it right Hammond ,The190 2zz engine is 0-60MPH is 7.1secs
Got a celica when I was 18 and loved it. Forgot to put any oil in it and destroyed the engine, oops
Is this car fast or just fun to drive?
both, it's the most fun slow car i've ever experienced
@@omniscient4499 it's a bit of a hidden gem if you get one with Lift. (190) overall these are brilliant in the corners and make you feel like you are in something special... they can be 'quick' but you need to be adapted to driving one, and keeping it above 6200 rpm. Smiles are guaranteed though!
Nick H Actually, i have one currently, as my first car. only 187 bhp as an american spec car. mine has a 6speed, and i drive it every so often to get used to it
Is slow
@@coupe6339 It's quick for what it is. Considering it's only 140bh for the vvti. Plus the car corners really well.
Тогда, в 2001, моя американка еще была новой. Эх, времена...)
Not how you pronounce cELica
depends where you're from
always looked like an overrun focus
Im a proud celica owner, it always turns heads when i roll up anywhere.
Same here 💪
As it should 😊
I wish mine was red .
No you dont the paint is more prone to damage in red I have one
Orelex oh i didnt know that.
I just bougt a silver one. Apart from some rust (which I'll have to fix), it looks pretty darn fine.
Amber57499 awesome.
Mine was. The previos owner needs to be castrated. Runs, spots where it was touched when the paint was wet, too thin a coat so all the little bitty rocks reveal red dots all over the front bumper.
Disgusting. Good thing nobody can see when you zip by 😂
Selleeeeeeeka
When did any 2zz ge have a rev limter at 8500?
the early jdm and edm models did, us didnt the best specced celicas
I hear the later models actually bumped down the rev limit a bit, still it's CRAZY high compared to most cars.
Unfortunately this engine is prone to oil starving if driven hard through corners. Get pan baffles or you'll be seizing quickly.
thats the vvti you are refering to i think. The vvtLi hardly consumed any oil
exactly, the pre-facelitf vvt-i had this problem, it was fixed from the 2003+ models. and the vvtL-i never had it.
I don't think he is talking about the VVTI engine oil burn issue but that both the VVTLI and VVTI engines both have small oil pans and as as result of relatively small amount of oil in these engines- corning at high speeds, more likely on track, can cause the oil to move up the side and starve the engine temporarily causing pressure loss and engine failure- something that can only be solved by replacing the pan with one of larger capacity and baffling and increasing oil amount.
These little Celica cars are pretty good non the less.
NathanCelica no, the 2zz would spin a bearing if ypu went around a corner hard at high rpm. It sloshes away from the pickup tube and the bottom end runs dry. A half seco d is all it takes. A moroso oil pan fixes this.
Also, over rev it, the oil pump goes. And iy runs dry. Spun bearing lol
BS Or Not?
The standard vvti (1zz-fe) oil sump was baffled, oddly enough the 2zz-ge wasn’t but easy enough to swap out, or upgrade.
The 2zz’s standard oil pump was reliable when used on a standard set up I don’t know of any have that gone ‘yet’ except on FI set up engines.
vvti system came in way too late in rpm, not enough torque either
vvtli* and there is a reason it is at high rpm, changing it to any sooner than about 5800rpm you end up being slower. and why are you expecting lots of torque from a 1.8?
Yeah, this baby has only 20 less engine HP than my 88 Supra, but the torque difference (even though my Supra is 1,000 lbs (!) heavier) is pretty massive.
Don't even have to gas the Supra uphills it just takes it. This Celica you would really have to petal to the metal or high-rev it. I still love both of my cars though.
@@rushnerd i go up some hills in 5th gear in my celica, its really not an issue
@@arcanevoid9199 I only got the auto, but if I rev it higher in M-mode, it might be more tolerable. It needs high revs to really get it going where as the Supra doesn't really care.
@@rushnerd yea exactly, having the auto ruins it. supra is an inline 6 with way more displacement, not really surprising
Dendonde es el.acento de este tipo
I wish the ricers didnt ruin the car
Hey Brits in the States we pronounce it "sell uh ka". Not "c li ka"! 😄
States are wrong
Aloooominum
8.7 seconds? Must be the base model.
Yea he dropped a cod on this. 8.7 is the 140bhp VVT-i model. The 190bhp VVTL-i is down at 7.2.
It isn't true tho. I think its about 6.5 for t-sport and about 7.5-8 for 140hp (i own one of them)
@@MsFilmiki I have a 190 VVTL-i and there's no chance its sub 7 seconds. I would doubt it even the day after they came out of the factory. My last T-sport got terrorised off a Mk 6 Golf GTI... until the corners of course. I wish they were quicker. (I have owned a 140, TS and currently on a 190)
@@nh1848 hey bud bud, how you finding the 190?
@@jasonjuggler3457 I love it. You definately need an aftermarket exhaust for the engine note. It's the way the car makes you feel. Low slung, high door cards and it's confident handling. They are getting to the stage where they need restoration though. I got a new subframe put on the rear as well as some camber arms. Are you thinking of getting one :) ?
They're starting to go up in price now (the 190s)
I prefer the hyundai coupe v6
I considered this too. But the engines are dog slow and so disengaging. I really wanted to love the V6 aswell; but it just hasn't been maximised to it's potential .
@@nh1848 you have to drive the car.is like a car with 200hp.i had the celica and the v6 and i sold the celica.the v6 gives to me 184hp to wheels.great engine
@@coupe6339 I drove the TSiii V6 and I guess I expected more torque out of it. Don't get me wrong, I love the Coupe; but it could have been so much more.
@@nh1848 you will need and injen.with injen is amazing!
@@coupe6339 I bet the noise is brutal with that 😀
Would someone who's 200 cm (6'7) fit in the driver seat of a Celica?
Depends how far back you want to lean your chair lmao
Might be a bit of a squeeze, I'm 6ft and my comfortable driving position has the seat pretty close to as far back as it goes. I guess it all depends on whether you've got long legs or it's your torso that's big. Keep in mind that when you do find a comfortable position literally no one will be able to sit in the seat behind you
jesus no,, im 5'6 and my hair in on the roof liner,, lol why'd ye think they got hamster reviewing it fer top gear
Hayull no
I'm 6'7 and i have this car for 10 years now, i even put 3 ppl in it on 300km + trips.
How do you not mention that it’s down 60hp from the previous version. Looks are subjective but the ST-205 is my favorite design of all time
oh like there wasn't a ton of 1.8 and 2.0 regular 6 gens. you have to compare it to the GT-4. how about comparing it to the 175bhp GT?
vubevube
You compare the 140hp SSI version to those. My old ST-204 and my friend’s GT (SSI) were dead even in speed. We raced and modded those cars for years back in our twenties.
Neg Ative well i've had a vvt-i celica which i turbocharged to have 230bhp and it was amazing. It was only missing a LSD to be perfect. But i agree stock ones are not realy quick.
@Neg Ative: I own a jap import gen 6 celica SSii 178bhp model. And it is quite a rapid car.
PS: In the 6 gen, UK equivalent of my SSii is the GT with the hardcore 2.0 3SGE engine
SSi equivalent in the UK came with a softer economical version of the version of the 2.0 in the forn of a 3SFE (130hp)
Its not turbo lol thats not fair
Never a pretty Car what?!
Compare to Celica models before;
To be honest, this Celica is the most boring ones.
1) the design suck.
2) the engine no turbocharger suck.
3) the cabin suck.
No wander,this kind of model is failure in the market. Even Toyota acknowledge it too.
I prefer the hyundai coupe v6
Kind of reminds of a sportier prius
Good look but is slow
not slow for what it is
They said the same about my 88' Supra NA. Both that and my 01' Celica GT-S are the fastest cars BY FAR I've ever owned. They aren't speed demons, but man they never ever feel slow.
it doesnt have 190bhp lol it always had 147bhp every model did
No, you are wrong. There is a 1zz and 2zz motor.
@@iDayVids Ive never seen one in the UK with the 190bhp engine ever, no lie
Christophe Ayres just cause you havent seen one doesnt mean they dont exist. Look em up on youtube. Ive seen plenty, im in a few fb groups and theres a bunch there too. Often see reallllly clean ones selling for under £2k
@@christineayres5339 2zz-ge with 189bhp
@@jaconeill673 that's good to know must be a rare JDM model , did the extra 50bhp make much difference?
2022 and the prices of 2zz celicas gone mad 10k+🔜
i just bought mine at 4000
@@rumcoke9123 it's vvtli or vvti bro.There are big differences between the 2 editions.
Not that so much as it's extremely rare to find these things under 200K miles come up for sale.
A few months ago a 01' GT-S with 141K miles came up at a dealer and I just had to take it. $ 7.5K, or after my payments about $10K.
Would be grand but aside from all the aftermarket stuff I put on it, it still needs several grand to fix the moonroof leaks, motor mounts, and lift bolt issue...
Not the best Toyota product... it's Yamaha co-designed 2ZZ-GE engine is fragile. Can't handle overrev and oil can pool in the head during cornering, both typical for sporty driving.
If you need more than 8200 revs then I don’t think the car is the problem
oil doesnt pool in the head, it gets pushed to one side of the oil pan because there is not enough baffling. this is not just an issue with this car, and you have to be cornering quite hard for it to happen
@@arcanevoid9199 Yep, you can actually just fit a baffled sump from the 140 and it solves the issue
@@JReiid that doesnt solve the issue at all, common misconception. a proper moroso pan is the only way to actually fix it. the 140 pan isnt actually baffled, it just has the windage plates on the pan instead of on the engine like the 190 pan. toyota literally said to not use the 140 pan, because it can cause issues
@@arcanevoid9199 Had people have success with it in the Celica clubs on Facebook but fairenough. Gen 7 definitely inferior to the Gen 6 that’s for sure
still sounds like corolla though
embarrassing roaring like a douchebag at 20mph around the countryside
I think it sounds good. Happiness is a Toyota buzzing along.
Corolla has the same engine
So do some Elise's i think
some engines are made to rev. if you're embarrased by it you need to buy a diesel ;)
Not really. Considering it's the same engine in a Lotus Elise. I suppose only a douchebag would really care what others thought. It's meant to have fun in. Stick a 3" straight through and a custom back box with a CAI intake and it sounds quite brutal for an N/A engine.
Never liked the styling of these.