Most of these old rules are propagated solely because the teachers or school administrations all think, "Well, we had to follow these rules when we were kids, therefore these students should endure what we endured," as if inflicting their trauma on the next generation is fine and dandy.
I can confirm that some people really do think this way. "Since I had to suffer, so must you." There is no logic behind this, and in the case of sunscreen, we KNOW how dangerous UV light can be, and skin cancer is no joke.
@@g76agiit is true. Some idiots argued that kids shouldn't use different kind of school bags because back in the day they had to carry heavy bags.. Typical
I went to an all girls school, trousers were not uniform as it wasn’t lady like, no makeup, nail polish. Skirts had to be below knee, you wasn’t allowed to walk around without a blazer on. The worst one was they assigned teachers to follow you after school to make sure you had uniform on the whole time rather than going in bathrooms in local shops to change into something else… it was madness.
@@somerandomdude712 ikr! they would have teachers every morning watching you exit assembly and pull you aside to tell you to untuck your skirt (we all used to have them short lol) and a lot of the teachers were male too.
I worked at a US childcare center and we were legally required to apply sunscreen to every kid before going outside or we could lose our license. Parents had to provide it or they had to provide a doctor's note, which obviously no doctor is going to do unless a kid has an allergy. I feel like Japanese people don't complain enough; I would be getting a doctor's note to allow my child to use sunscreen if I lived there.
Ain't that another compare-contrast to add to the list. Americans tend to not go with the flow and bitch too much. Japanese people tend to be doormat and not speak up when they should. Not saying it's a rule, just a general trend.
Sunscreen shouldn't only not be banned, it should be mandatory. Skin cancer is not a joke, and kids should be thought to protect themselves against it.
My dad was a builder before he got his real estate evaluation quals. By the time he died, he had only half an ear on one side and 2/3 on the other because of melanomas, twice a year he was having to have cancer removed. But this was Australia, the docs don't fuck around with your skin, but he needed his ears for his hearing aids so the absolute minimum was taken. He also had a few precancers taken off his face as well.
This comment is right. Ever seen how sunscreen looks through an infrared lens? It darkens the skin. Think of it as a black car or white colored car. Which color gets hotter? I agree with the Japanese school rules. Sunscreen is not medical really. Make up is another thing. It's like comparing apples and steak.
For non-australians: the term Slip, Slop, Slap is a slogan/catchphrase for sun safety. Taught in schools at a very young age. Slip on a Shirt Slop on some sunscreen Slap on a hat. Growing up in rural Australia myself, there was also "no hat, no play". If you did not have a hat, you were not allowed to play outside.
that's a very good slogan. we have the same here being taught for decades. they use the slogan smart in the sun. in the 90's the had the kids channel show a clip for it between almost every show I think.
same for new zealand, no hat and you not allowed outside (up to i think intermediate? i guess highschool students know to take care of themselves). ozone layer over aus and nz is kinda fked up
there are two other s's from that catchphrase now which is seek and slide which you seek for shelter and you slide on some sunnies. they updated the slogan back in 2007 but mostly as you said a lot of australians know the simple 3's which is essential when you're heading out.
Not allowing sunscreen is wild to me, like sure I barely use it because I have almost never got sunburn and have good reason to try to get maximum vitamin d, but a classmate who was on the same trip to Germany during a heatwave was applying factor 50 multiple times a day and still got burnt so there's definitely a need for some people. I think the strangest rule I had wasn't that strange, except for the change as every previous 6th form year had no uniform only a dress code but mine and future years as far as I know had a uniform enforced.
I would guess that a doctors note would suffice to overrule the school, but it's still ridiculous that you might need that. My limited experience was that things aren't generally that ridiculous but self expression was definitely ruled out. No jewellery (even watches) was allowed but apart from the uniform nothing was mandated. Hair had somewhat similar limitations as described by Joey. But there were no limits on shoes, winter coats or bags at my school.
Even if you never get sunburn, the UV rays can still damage your skin. The sun emits frequencies that can reach deeper cell levels, no matter your natural skin type.
@@supercheesydorrito1171 The ponytail thing is more wild, because the reason they ban it is because 'male students will get aroused if they see a females neck'
@@supercheesydorrito1171 It's not just a cosmetic thing tho rt? Ponytails help keep hair out your face and stop you from being so hot in the summer/spring.
Girls are scary. Ponytails = more scary girl power. Band ponytails boys and girls equal again. Joking but if boy and girls are the same all are the same. See? Japanese thinking.
For the record, regarding sunscreen the decision to use it doesn't depend on wanting to get a tan or not, it's besides that. Sunscreen is a needed protection no matter what, wether you want a tan or not. It's not something to avoid if you want to get tanned.
It's not a necessity for everyone, only for a handful of people. I've lived my whole life without sunscreen and those around me have too, and considering I live in a country with an average temperature of 50 degrees Celsius, normal people don't need it
@@sensei6771 what this person means is that like Joey said sunscreen protects against UV rays that can cause cancer which is why alot of doctors suggest wearing it whether or not you need it or not So yeah you dont need it cause you dont burn or anything but a doctor would probably suggest (or not dunno your doctors or state) so you can protect from the rays that happen in whatever weather Not teying to tell you that you have to use it, keep doing you but still
@@ChibiCorgisCorner first time in ages that someone actually replied calmly on the internet lmfao (thank you). It's recommended but not necessary, so i feel like its not right to permit it in schools only for them to add more rules on its usage. If it's necessary then it should rather be applied before leaving home rather than in school.
@@sensei6771 As far as i'm aware not using sun screen increases the risk of skin cancer for everyone. People with darker skin tones do have a lower risk since it protects them more from UV rays however japanese people are not particularly dark skinned. In the end it is a question of whether students should be allowed to apply sunscreen in order to reduce the risk of getting skin cancer later in life. The "best" argument against it is that it takes a minute or two to apply while the argument that it is like make-up is stupid and the idea that it would make the pool much dirtier is directly shown to be a non-issue by every other place that doesn't prevent you from using sunscreen in the pool with no problem. I don't disagree that sunscreen isn't an absolute necessity for everyone but why shouldn't the people who need it be allowed to use it in school? No one is saying that students should be required to use sunscreen just that they should be allowed to use it if they find it necessary.
suncreen school rules in Japan are definitely weird, another weird school story, here in the Philippines, a lot of catholic schools do not allow devices, ergo, no phones, no laptops etc. now you might think "hey that's a catholic school, that's pretty predictable for them" welp, let me tell you, IT students aren't allowed either, yep, so my cousin and a friend of mine who partook in catholic schools in senior high school had to code on paper, ON PAPER for 2 years, they didn't even know cmd pops up the moment you run your code, they were like cavemen when I showed them how the compiler computes everything so they don't have to manually check the mathematics in all their codes
Speaking as someone who is paler than Casper, has had two skin cancer scares even with regularly applying sunscreen, and gets sun poison at least once every summer, that rule is dangerous. Especially if there are kids who have a UV-sensitive skin type. The teachers and administrators of those schools are just wreckless with the health and well-being of their students.
The thought that educators are blind to the fact how to differentiate between cosmetics and medicine is honestly astounding, this shows how unwilling they are to expand their horizons to learn something new. And I agree, those old cats on the board come up with some outrageous conditions just for some personal enjoyment, for them, young children should also learn to bear the pain, that they experienced when they were starting out in the real world, to apparently "steel them".
Permitting the use of sunscreen adds an additional layer of rules to be applied for them to not be misused. Sunscreen isn't required by everyone, one a few who are susceptible to skin diseases. If it's absolutely required then either wear it when you leave your house or just talk it out with the principal to have special permission. As for the "steel them" part, it's obviously part of growing up. Some of them, like making children suffering from heat in the classrooms instead of switching on the AC or fan can be called personal satisfaction for the adults (although part of its not wrong, you get used to extreme conditions, something that's entirely possible to encounter frequently in life), just giving them freedom over everything is just gonna turn them into a snowflake. Sunscreen is not a necessity, only a requirement by a few who are more susceptible to skin diseases, so it's right for them to not permit then in schools (keep in mind that it can be applied when not in schools as well). I'm Asian who has lived in places where the average temperature was 45 degrees Celsius and other than a handful of students, none of the other students required any sort of sunscreen. If anything it's adds a new problem of students misusing them.
This is an interesting thing that another video I recently watched on a completely different topic touched on as well. There is simply a large sect of people who believe that other people should suffer just because they themselves had to suffer. It's honestly insane. The entire point of progressing as a society is to make things BETTER for future generations, not torture them just because YOU had to deal with shitty things in your lifetime.
@@KhronicD well that's one problem and this is another. Sure I agree that there is a lot of stuff out there where the adults want the kids to suffer with its consequences just because the adults did back when they were kids (I've along with many other have experienced it firsthand). But sunscreen is recommended, not a necessity (to most people). So it doesn't make sense to permit it into the school as it causes more problems that the one it's solving (remember that students are just kids and kids always want to mess around with stuff....so having a bottle of sunscreen with you causes more problems than it solves) Coming to the topic of events that cause suffering to children that adults do to, most of them are usually valid. As the saying goes 'no pain no gain'......you can't withstand heat if you aren't used to it. You cant lift weights if you aren't used to lifting weights (This is a reference to a story that a Japanese American was complaining about where he said that, when Japanese children used trolley bags instead of the over-the-shoulder bags, they were banned by adults saying that it would turn them into snowflakes. In this case i side with the adults cuz it would indeed turn them into snowflakes). You cant stay fit unless you workout. You cant stay upto date with the syllabus if you aren't given homework, etc.
This rule makes Peach Girl make so much more sense. (Not to compare everything to manga) I remember reading it and sort of thinking if being tan is such an issue, why not wear a high PF sunscreen? Clearly, she couldn't! (Peach girl was about a high school girl who was very tan because she was on the swim team, part of the conflict was that she got bullied for it and assumed to be a Ganguro, but she couldn't bring herself to quit swimming because she loved it too much. In the end she finds friends and love who don't care about her tan and support her dreams.) This really is wild to me, as a child (and still now) I'm always told to put sun screen on because I burn so easily, my mom would be livid over this sort of rule.
Manga and anime are actually a lot more realistic than people give them credit for, especially the slice-of-life ones. It's true that they can get quite emphatic and even absurd at times, but they're still ultimately based on modern Japanese society, so there's bound to be some parallels.
1. There's water resistant sunscreen. 2. Like you said, it only takes a couple of minutes 20 minutes before exposing yourself to the sun. 3. Sunscreen is skincare and, as long as it's untinted, it doesn't provide any colour correction and it's invisible.
I've heard of some beaches that forbid sunscreen because even if your skin has absorbed the sunscreen, it still has remais that may be toxic for the local fauna at those beaches. Now at a school's pool, sounds like: we don't want to clean our pool as often as we should.
I do not understand the logic of teachers on rules. I remember getting expelled for recycling papers for it. I have seen a lot of students getting expelled for even more unreasonable reasons.
its part of japans remnant fascism. rules that exist to minimize personal expression and make the youth compliant to all laws no matter how seemingly stupid. japan did not fully heal from its fascist past and it retains many of those aspects. it has high police presence, high surveillance, high suppression of personal expression, overbearing bureaucracy, ect. people like to say "oh its just japanese cultural differences" yeah and many of those differences are called fascism.
@@shutup1037really treated high school, middle school kids like theyre college kids If the proffessor hates you, you are guaranteed not pass...if this were to happen in my HS or MS, the teacher would get fired It happens before too
As a Japanese I have to say that the most critical thing is we have to obey these rules because of “the rule”. Most of them don't have a rational reason😅😅
A dangerous tool governing bodies use to subdue and suppress people is getting them to submit to dumb rules without question. If people are made to believe they can't protest, can't get rid of ideas that harms the society they will in the end decline. I think Japan is a good example of that.
@@returnedtomonkey8886 It's just because “the rule” literally. One day I asked my teacher that “what was this rule made for?” and he said “I don't know but you have to keep it because it's the rule even if there is no reason”. Basically Japanese people are kind of conservative so they(including me😅) tend to avid change. That's why there are still these rules which were in effect ages ago but now are meaningless.
If I were ever subjected to that kind of school rule, I would simply apply the suncream in the morning as I get ready for school and then a) no one would know I'd applied it and b) it'd be perfectly soaked into my skin well before taking any swimming lessons. Also don't they make waterproof suncreams these days? So that issue of it coming off in the water is now moot anyway!
While I'm sure that would be better than nothing that would absolutely not be sufficient for me unless the outdoor classes were only first thing in the morning. I can apply sunscreen multiple times a day and still end up with a mild burn in the peak of summer.
The thing about sunscreen is that after a hours, you need to top it up, through sweat, swimming etc, it wears off. Oh and we are constantly sweating even in sub zero temperatures, it's just not as much or obvious as on a hot day or through exercise.
I still think the dumbest rule from my school is that we were not allowed to wear jackets unless they had the school logo on them. This wasn't a problem until the hurricane Katrina times where we had heavy wind and rain, or in the winter because the jackets were thin. I ended up getting detention for wearing a winter coat in almost 30 degree weather. What was worse was that the part of the school I was at required me to frequently go outside. Between that and getting detention for reading a book in class (after I had done all my work), I really did not like my school.
My school had a rule that disallowed physical contact between students of the opposite gender. Give your friend a hi-5... After school detention. Give your friend a hug... 2 week suspension from school. Meanwhile, sneaking in vodka to sell to year 7s (age 11-12)... 2 day suspension. Setting fire to another student... Lunch time detention.
My old highschool have a rule that you can't wear track pants 👖 that have side lines(pattern) more than 2 lines. Yup, you can't wear track pants that have 3 lines. I don't even know why.
Most likely because ADIDAS brand pants have the 3 stripes, and in some places are considered a "premium brand." So it was likely a misguided attempt by the school to prevent classism or bullying based on who could afford expensive name brand apparel. Yes, it sounds just as silly to me now that I've typed it out, but it's not uncommon.
@@KhronicD bro no lol. it's just a regular school. Also who tf would wear expensive pants to school. The one I wore back then was like $7(Around RM30). but your opinion make sense for other countries tho
Get a pair of track pants with three stripes, and separate the third line a little bit with a pen or something, and then technically there is not three lines. Checkmate.
I bet the whole no difference between sunscreen and makeup argument is cuz of tone-up sunscreens. theyre kinda like "makeup", though primarily still a UV PROTECTOR 🤦🏻♀️
Which would be ridiculous in and of itself bc they don't do that much in the first place. I am very pale and use a beige Tone-up sun screen (that I bought here in Japan) and it barely makes my skin look a wee bit healthier and even. The latter likely only being possible bc I have somewhat clear skin, so not comparable to what most teens will look like during puberty 🤔 Not understanding the difference between tone-up skincare (that would include regular creams as well, I assume) and make-up actually makes them look rather... unintelligent tbh. Rules like that generally often sound like they just hate children - which is concerning for people running schools...
As someone who gets Sunburn very very very fast, that would be very dangerous. I just hope that Japan will some day get a bit more relaxed with those (outdated) school rules
@@sensei6771 Imagine being of North European descent, your ancestors for millenia have grown accustomed to not seeing the sun for more than 2 hours a day for most of the year so you are genetically predisposed to harmful effects of the sun and you get skin cancer because some boomer forbade you from using a life saving elixir because uhhh.... reasons????
This sounds like a rule that was made when sunscreen was a new concept and board, being the senile old fogeys they are, thought it was just a cosmetic that did nothing and made the rule so that kids can suffer like they did and they never updated it since. Screw the potential merits sunscreen has, getting a nice tan (read: suffering excessive sunburns) is *good for the kids* (heavy sarcasm). I bet those teachers are the ones that don't even let the kids have burn ointment because enduring the pain will make them stronger.
Mine was crazy, you're not allowed to tuck your uniform sleeve(we all use long sleeve) and no wearing jacket (you need to take it off at the school gate) SEA weather is inconcistent, it can be cold asf in the morning and blazing hot in the afternoon. These rules kills me lol
Not in my school, but during my highschool era, one school had a bombscare because rivals gangs fight inside their campus. The school's admin decided that all students must use clear transparent bags for few weeks...
My school gave immediate detentions for wearing the uniform wrong in ANY kind of way, it could be as small as not wearing the knee high socks up high enough.
In my lower elementary schools in Finland (I attended two schools) in the 1990s, we had a rule that if you go to the snowball fight area, you are not allowed to leave until the break ends. I remember how once other kids bullied a classmate there and he ran away, a teacher found out, and then he shouted at the kid: 'You know the rules, you go there, you stay there!' So, that rule came from the teachers, not from some peer pressure. I am now an adult, 37 years old, and I still have no idea what the point of that rule was.
Nope rules are important. Schools are a place to teach rules. Rules are meant to be followed not to be questioned. This is the sentiment of the majority, especially on Japanese UA-cam comments. Japanese people are fucking nuts about rules, because we are taught to listen, not to think.
yeah... This weird dogma of absurd rules is basically another side effect of Japans massive group mentallity. It established itself to drill children from a very young age into conforming into whatever society dictates, no matter how insane a rule sounds if you think about it. Got this explained to someone I worked with once. She was caucasian, but lived and grew up in Japan and saw this first hand. She is a red head, but when her family moved into another city and she got to middle school she was forced to dye her hair black due to school policy, which she absolutely hated (she loved having her red hair thanks to Ann of green gabbles. Hope I wrote that title correctly). She even described to me how she was just sobbing in her room after her hair got dyed for weeks. After her first year she had enough (due to both her hair and many, many other weird rules and the people working at that school), that she decided one day during break to cut her hair off completely out of protest, leading to her also to find out that another rule of the school was that girls were not allowed to have short hair (shoulder length was the minimum). Needless to say, she was glad when her parents let her transfer to another school afterwards, even if it ment for her to have a much longer way to get there then before.
a pointless rule in my highschool was only seniors could dress up for halloween - I broke that every year (i also sat in the senior section of the cafeteria for all 4 years as well)
I’m from Orlando, and when I was in High School, we were allowed to take our 2 semester long (year long) required PE class during summer school. It was 6wks long, 4 days a week. 3 of the 4 days we’d go bowling, 1 day play volleyball in a freezing gym, and once every 3 weeks run a mile in the gym, because the school board recognized it was too hot outside for physical activity in the Florida summer sun. This was almost 30yrs ago and the bowling alley has since closed so I don’t know what they do now.
11:00 what has sunscreen to do with tanning? Tanning isn't prevented by wearing sun screen... 11:51 so Japanese school pools/public pools do not use chlorine?
Speaking as a WHITE person, I can say that my parents would have been at the doctor getting a note for me if that was an option because I don't just burn, I blister and it's nasty. I think dress codes in general in States have some truly stupid regulations. They vary from school to school, state to state, but there's always a length rule for girls' skirts you can't wear spaghetti straps, no bra straps showing. Etc.
yeah, black skin can burn too. I remember talking to some Aboriginal girls back when we were working on the same banana farm in FNQLD, I said I envied them thier melanin because I while I'm a brunette, I have the red gene and burn easy, and they all laughed and said we need sunscreen too, we burn! i'm guessing though that you may be albino and so have zero melanin, and you have to check the UV forecast before you go out in the daytime. I know a lady like that, getting caught by the sun can wipe her out for days.
@@silkvelvet2616 Natural brunette that got the red gene too. I just don't ever spend time outside because outside is always trying to kill me. Lol. I have had more than enough bad burns in my life and go to great lengths to not do it anymore. It hurts.
@@silkvelvet2616 dont have to be albino to blister, my cousin gets huge blisters when he’s sunburnt. Once we were at my nans house after coming from the beach and I accidentally walked in on my cousin in the bathroom and he had this massive bubble on us shoulder for a blister the size of a base ball. Although he is extremely pale and also has red hair.
@@Jenntully the worst are the overcast days, when I was a kid, I once got a full body sunburn (almost but not quite 2nd degree) over my whole body except where my cozzy covered me, the palms of my hands and the soles of my feet, under my arms. Even the tops of my ears, and my scalp burned and while I have super fine hair, I have a LOT of it. That day looked like it might rain, but didn't, living in the blue mountains screws with your perspective of cloud cover, especially as a kid. I live in the UK now, and I tried to talk to my GP about mole mapping and they were like... Huh? Wtf is that? And showed absolutely no interest. My skin is ok for now, 30yrs later, but I do check it regularly, and while I don't really use sunscreen now, I'm careful not to be in the sun for too long, just enough for my vit D, that's it.
i understand if its like a catholic/ private school they would have a skirt length rule im assuming they are just protecting the school reputation, cuz parents would definitely comment on skirt lengths saying its too short etc and probs end up not sending their kids there or whatever
At South African Schools Makeup isn't allowed, but it's pretty damn hot here, I've never heard of sunscreen being banned before and I'm in the teaching profession. I thought it would come down to Japanese culture and them not wanting to change things. Sunscreen is to protect yourself, makeup is purely cosmetic. Teachers are supposed to be holistic and try be mentors and educate learner in life and not just going according to the textbook all the time. Japan sometimes like to overcomplicate things, from what I've heard from your podcast. Its one of those things where some things in Japan are S tier optimised and others are just archaic.
Really appreciating my Danish schools now, when hearing all these rules from other countries. We don't really have rules... Other than: meet up, pay attention in class and respect school property like you would your own house. Pretty much just a second home where you can learn and have make friends. Of course, I'm lucky to have been born in this time, before uniforms and disciplinary actions like, beating "disrespectful" kids were a thing. I remember a Danish movie about how school in Denmark really was just like prison. Kids getting beat up so bad, bruises all over, and the "main kid" getting his ear almost ripped off by a teacher/principle, which sparked a revolution, _not sure if that is the right word._ probably rebellion might be a better word. The movie is "Drømmen" 2006, if anyone is interested. I highly recommend it.
10:00 well don't wanna be that person, but sunscreen is kind of cosmetic from the skin care point of view. There is actually a lot of make-up products which are used for the medical porposes aka taking care of skin - but Japan's school rules are probably pretty vague if teachers cannot tell difference between those 2 types of cosmetics.
Yeah, there are a lot of basic foundation make up products that have sunscreen as a base, but all they would have to do is allow over the counter sunscreen only, like whatever brand they have for Coppertone or Banana Boat etc.
schools in VietNam has this sh*t rule as well (i gratuated years ago so don't really know if it change), the idea is they count as make up and not allow to use is f*cking ridiculous but our outdoor teachers let that slide, use and study in somewhere has shade. Stupid rule in MY school was :"student with bike have to stop at gate and walk like everyone else to the bike parking spot". It sound normal until you realize the parking spot is in the back gate and you have to walk from the front gate (after traveling 10-12km to get to school, this sh*t is wild), the worst part is they have another path to ride your bike to there but it not allow because reason.
Honestly after teaching in Japanese schools during the pandemic, the lapses in judgment schools make when it comes to student health is wild. Also I wonder if the "it might be makeup" argument is because some concealers/etc also have SPF and someone might argue their makeup is sunscreen... but like, Japanese schools control and nitpick SO MUCH of students lives, I don't understand why they can't just get specific about this too. Some other dumb rules I've witnessed/heard of: * not allowed to drink water/tea in class (before we had aircon in classrooms and the classrooms would average 85F/29C), * not allowed to use vending machines outside of school while in uniform (all year round, but especially insane in the summer) * not allowed to go into stores while in uniform without an adult (because delinquency back in the 80s???) * not allowed to use their personal cell phone outside of school while in uniform * not allowed to wear coats inside the school (in the winter when classes get very cold before they turn on heat) * not allowed to wear tights/leggings outside a designated set of dates (so if it snowed early/late in the year, girls had to just ganbaru and keep wearing regular socks) * fingernail length regulated to the point every classroom had a set of nail clippers to use during inspection.... I can probably think of more stupid rules we put on students + stupid rules teachers have to follow, too. I remember a student got caught shoplifting and instead of calling the parents, the police called THE SCHOOL and the homeroom teacher had to deal with it instead. Insane.
I lived in Japan and taught at schools for a decade. Sunscreen was not only allowed, it was supplied in huge pump dispensers at outdoors events for free. There are a lot of sunscreens in Japan with bleaching agents specifically targeted at young women that they may be trying to stop. These are essentially beauty products and used by them at all times. My wife is Japanese and does this. Personally, I was fairly vocal against some of the more draconic rules at the schools. One being that girls weren't allowed to wear slacks in winter even though it was snowing. Hair had to be black. Not its natural colour. Black. This meant that students who had naturally brown hair, possibly because they were 'haaf' (mixed ethnicity), were forced to dye their hair. Japan has a collectivist culture that's very community focussed. There's always a push for people to conform and not stand out. There's also an extremely strong hierarchical structure built on obedience to authority above all else. Questioning why isn't part of the conversation there. You're expected to simply agree and believe that your superiors have their reasons, and you don't need to know them.
I can't understand the rationale behind it, in the past few decades we have had several issues with UV rays world wide (anyone remembers the panic over the ozone layer?) I get them wanting to prevent makeup has that has certain health issues associated with it, but even pediatricians recommend the use of sunscreen for children when going out, just how do they reconcile those 2 statements then?
As someone who grew up exclusively in places where there are no school uniforms at all and school rules could hardly be any more lax, the entire concept of rules like that is SO wild to me. I can't even imagine how terribly restricting it is. Way to make sure your child can never properly express themselves via their looks. People have tried to sell me on the idea of uniforms time and time again but I will never understand any of the 'pro' points they make in the slightest. It's always like "well, noone will get bullied because of their clothes" and I'm just wondering why people wouldn't simply teach their children not to bully in the first place.
@@Aghul Here are some justifications for school uniforms. A uniform in combination with an ID makes it that much harder for randos who can pass for a student to not be able to sneak in as easily, (went to school with no uniform, many girls would sneak in their slightly older 19-21 year old boyfriends for dumb things.) IDs by themselves are only useful if actually inspected and can be more easily stolen/replicated. A uniform ID/combo is like two factor authentication lol. The benefit of uniforms are also obvious for teacher chaperons during school field trips, especially when there are different schools going to the same historic sights (a common thing in Japan) and to reiterate again, enhancing general safety. It is much easier for teachers to keep accountability if their students are easy to visually track. Idk about you, but sometimes I would stress out in the mornings about what to wear to class. I didn't want to look like I was wearing the same thing I wore yesterday, but not only was the outfit a wore yesterday more stylish, but it was also more comfy lol. I hated wasting like 3-5 minutes in the morning for such a dumb reason, but it happened and I was just a normal guy for crying out loud!!! I hear this aspect is worse for girls in general. When I was in the military, it was kind of lowkey nice to not have to worry about what to wear. Not every kid actually cares to be a show off or overtly different. Some days I wanted to not be noticed. Plenty of kids are also cool with blending in. Culturally, the Japanese are very collectivist, so the culture itself lends itself to uniform usage. Also, while it doesn't get rid of bullying, some studies do suggest that uniforms help people in the same associated organization to view each other as more equal or at least part of the same "team". Obviously, your still going to have cliques in school no matter what, but anything to even out the playing field so to speak helps. Also, if your "dressed for a certain role", it can also help with your self image in fulfilling said role along with feeling like you "belong" to whatever organization you said role in. Going back to my time in the military, I certainly wouldn't have felt very soldierly if I was wearing shorts, a t shirt and sandals AND if my fellow soldiers were also wearing something totally different. Your self perception IS affected by what you wear to an extent. Wearing a "school" uniform won't make a bad student a scholar, but it might encourage that borderline failing student into at least passing since their designation of "student" would be reinforced upon them every time they looked at themselves and their peers. Personally, I think a mix of both methods would be best. By this I mean have like a school blazer, vest, and short sleeve shirt with the school design/logo along with school trousers, shorts or skirts. However, everything else the student decides (ie the shirt under the vest/blazer) socks, shoes, and whatever top/bottom combo they want (ie no designated "summer" or "winter" uniform, just wear whatever feels most comfortable for you that day.) Girls can wear light makeup and earrings if they want, and they can die their hair as long as it's a natural color (so blonde, red is fine, but not blue hair). Same with guys if they are into that I guess. Just don't come to school looking like a KISS band member and or some other out there thing and it's fine xD. I think this would allow enough personal expression (or none if you don't care much) while still having the advantages of a uniform. Thoughts?
Our school banned conga lines because at every break there was this one kid who would just start conga lines in the middle of the playground for the kids who had no hats (no hat no play) and idk I guess the teachers didn’t like it 😂
To comment on the sunscreen rule, I think I might know why for those that aren't well versed in makeup. If they have a no makeup policy in most Japanese schools, that would apply to certain Sunscreens as you can get what they call "tinted moisturiser" or "tinted sunscreen" that's basically foundation or concealer with an SPF rating. So I assume the blanket ban of ALL SUNSCREEN is to prevent people from finding loopholes when it comes to using cosmetic "sunscreen" if that makes sense. Using plain sunscreen feels like it should still be allowed though.
I mean the reasons they gave are not related to sunscreen being a possible loophole for using makeup. But it would make much more sense if they would just say the actual reason and not just try to justify it with "bc of the pool".
It's not just "kind of" ridiculous but rather ENTIRELY ridiculous. If their reason for implementing such ban is about the pool getting dirty, they could've made it exclusively to pool area only. It bothers me to think too how do they even know if a student applied sunscreen cuz most of them dries clear (unless teachers manually checks them which is even more RIDICULOUS) and even if some sunscreen leave white residue to skin, they're still hard to notice since most japanese ppl have lighter skin tone. This is a really pointless rule and those affected by this are mostly female students (and ofcourse some male that care for their skin) overall questionable, ridiculous, and pointless. The safety of the students must always be prioritized.
My old school had a list of rules that were pretty ridiculous. For context, I went to a small private Christian school and they were very strict on their beliefs. So for school you had to use a King James Bible and it could ONLY be a King James Bible. If you were caught with any other version of the Bible you would be sent to the principal's office. My school also banned Harry Potter and Twilight (which was basically a good thing lol) as well as Pokémon. Guys practically had to have a buzz cut and girls had to have their natural hair and had to be a certain style. To my knowledge, my family had to fight to let me have my locs in school.
Its not even about getting a tan or not. Some people have skin that is really sensitive and light. I know that my shoulders can get a really bad sunburn in an hour if im not careful. I feel really bad for them.
Silliest thing that happened to me: my school refused to let me wear DMs, despite me having a doctor’s note about needing to wear shoes with more protection. Like, I understand having a uniform, but ffs.
@@flunkskunk Aah OK. Took a look on how they look like and I gotta say I kinda understand both sides. They for sure offer better protection than normal footwear, but at the same time look more like a fashion statement than prescription boots. Maybe an above-ankle work shoes with gel/foam insoles would be an acceptable compromise?
Extract from wiki about DMs for reference: "The boots were popular among workers such as postmen, police officers and factory workers. By the later 1960s, skinheads started to wear them, "Docs" or "DMs" being the usual naming, and by the late 1970s, they were popular among scooter riders, punks, some new wave musicians, and members of other youth subcultures.[11] The shoes' popularity among politically right-wing skinheads led to the brand gaining an association with violence."
@@czechgop7631 Aye, it was more of what shoes I had available to me at the time. They were fine with me breaking rules with trainers (even Crocs at one point after surgery), but just specifically not Dr Martin’s. I think it was a reputation thing; can’t be having a student from a “prestigious” school wearing punk shoes.
My school had the strictest rules in the region - the school that was stricter was a boarding school 102km away. Tie not tied correctly - detention. Top button not done up - detention. Shirt not tucked in - detention. Girls not wearing the right colour or denier of tights - detention. Boys not wearing the right colour of trousers - detention. Not wearing your blazer one foot inside school grounds - detention.
Probably because many studies have shown that homework literally adds next to nothing in the way of educational benefit. It just adds stress and less time "off" from school. Schools are slowly learning that time away from school can be just as important as time spent IN school.
@@KhronicD Yeah but so is repetitive behavior as in the more you look over the material the better you learn. But as a kid i refused to do homework as there is no time to play or relax if you have to immediately get to it thanks to all the fucking bullshit they give ya, then you have to fucking do house chores, and then go to bed by a certain time so you can wake up for school just to get more homework especially lugging around those big ass heavy text books It actually got to the point once that the teachers were worrying about my physical health as i was skinny and was carrying around heavy ass text books from and too school every fucking day as i was never gaining weight since pretty much i was too busy exercising every fucking day and they fucking wonder why i was always so fucking tired. I ate and i ate and i ate but i never could fucking gain weight because of that shit it got so bad i literally started having melt downs and refused to do anything and this was in America by the way. No kid left behind my ass, the school system seen i could not keep up and decided to just label me as a failure and allow me to slip through the cracks and this was before high school as they literally suggested that i just drop out
One of the craziest Japanese school rules i heard about was not being able to drink water when walking/exercising outside for gym or something. Idr everything exactly where but a Japanese UA-camr that speaks English mentioned it.
I think it is Sora the Troll. I just watched some of his videos on rules. I also remember that he said that some rules are not as widely enforced anymore.
I’m Japanese but never heard there are places that bans sun scream from anyone tho( I doubt that anyone is following this rule. There are a lot of rule that exits but for some nobody follows it so that might be it )…it’s funny I learn something new from this channel even though I literally grew up and living in Japan 😂
Thats what I was wondering, how often was this rule actually enforced. If its an old rule, it could be forgotten that it was even part of the rules, but still within them.
My High school was co-ed yet they divided the building the building into two separate zones for boys and girls respectively, and boys weren't allowed to go girls side. Girls can come to boy's side but not the other way around, if we did we'd get punished. I think this also makes the list.
From a European view the pledge of allegiance (don't know if that is still a thing in USA schools?) is such a creepy and strange thing to me. different cultures I guess.
@@therovingwriter No you're right, it definitely is weird and it's still a thing. Although it's not really a "rule," more just an expectation in that people will look at you weird for not doing it but you won't get in trouble (at least not where *I* went to school.) Honestly I always thought the clothing restriction rules were creepy to me, since they almost always target specifically the girl's outfits. Like systemic shaming of women's self-expression and bodies is bad enough, but justifying it as "these clothes are banned because they're distracting to other students and staff" is sexualizing and objectifying kids and making them think it's THEIR fault. That's fucked up.
@@therovingwriter It is a weird thing, but I can say in my experience, we didn't do the pledge of allegiance beyond the 4th or 5th grade when I was in school. And that was late 80's early 90's. I'm sure it varies depending where in the country you are, but in my experience it was not a common thing. Even 30 years ago.
@@therovingwriter oh we still do it at least in my school. However no one actually says anything and we all just stand up in silence as maybe one person and the teacher says it
When I was an exchange student in Japan, I used sunscreen (and even reapplied it at least once as far as I remember) during the sports festival, and my skin was still burned at places, and peeling off afterwards. If our school had had this rule, I'm sure it would have been way worse.
I can see why (if they were logical) these rules are. 1) there some sunscreens that have glitter or other stuff that wash off BUT the pool should still filter it. 2) I can see it with certain students BUT it shouldn't take you more than 2-3 minutes to apply as Joey said. 3) there are "makeup" version of suncreens BUT (and overall) sunscreen is pretty important for area that gets a lot of sun or those with sensitive skin to UV lights. This was pretty silly but good cover Joey keep 'em coming ❤
wth.... In canada, we had teachers yell at us for not wearing sunscreen because heat stroke and getting sick from sunburns. I mean, a lot of us are pastey white kids so you look like a lobster. i know their was a school that regulated underware colour in japan and like... how do you check that with out being pervy to kids... Very weird rules...
So,I actually know a lot about pools, and excessive sun screen is actually a pain in the ass to deal with in pools. However, it's not much more of a pain in the ass than actually keeping the pool clean during heavy use. Of course if the school really wants to ban sunscreen for the pools, but still protect the students from UV rays, chemicals exist that can be added to the pool that apply sunscreen to the swimmers without affecting the water at all. You can easily satisfy the main point of both sides with minimal effort and cost. But that would require people to actually want solutions, instead of looking for reasons to fight
Likely the school admins all grew up without sun screen during school sports (same with my generation in the U.S.) and don't see the problem. Frankly I never heard of anyone from my school getting skin cancer after four years of field hockey or whatever. But maybe the ozone layer is weaker today than it was 30 or 40 years ago?
That's so riddiculus. Not only there are serious long-term risks, like the skin cancer you mention, but there are also immediate effects - sunburns. I have very light and sensitive skin and basically my only body parts that I can put out into the sun without using sunscreen are face and hands, everything else get red and sunburnt even after 15 minutes (and in strong summer sun, even my face can get sunburnt). So after 45 minutes/an hour in the summer, my sunburns would probably need medical attention and it would be impossible for me to take part in outdoor activities without using sunscreen.
Another rule that I had to endure in all my schools and even in college was that if I was late, I was sent home. So the punishment for me missing 5-10 minutes is me missing the whole day. And then the next day I'd even have to justify my absence for the day. This gave me so much anxiety that I'd just not go if it seemed like I was gonna be late. In my football training, when anyone was late, the coach would make them run laps around the field. Now this seems like a valid punishment. But denying the opportunity to learn, no thank you.
I went to highschool mostly in California. I was punk and would wear spikes on my leather jacket. I only ever got in trouble for wearing a belt made out of empty rifle bullets. I wouldn't of been able to deal with rules like these.
Stupid school rule I experienced (private school in Queensland): you were forced to wear your school hat as you moved between classes. No hat? Detention. All for the sake of looking good for potential visitors of that school. (School also had an "anti-bullying" policy that was rarely enforced, and a lot of the bullying reportings were swept under the rug to protect their image. I also worked at a summer camp in Japan, and the number of students that came with essential oil sprays to "protect their skin" was insane. Others didn't even have anything. This was despite the organisers telling the parents to pack sunscreen. But these parents just assumed a hat was enough.
One of the problems, especially girls uniforms, comes from a thing you might not have thought of, Joey, and I know because I've been in the conversation I'm going to summarize. Imagine a group of parents, mostly women, not all Japanese, but mostly, having a chat on why they're sending their kids to this or that school. Imagine a parent expecting to hear "because that school has good reputation / great professors / a fine syllabus / it's in a safe area / looks nice and well kept", but not hearing anything of that coming from the Japanese mothers. Imagine hearing different versions of why they take their girls to certain schools "because the uniform is cute". That, sadly, is to many mothers the main driver of why they want their girls go to certain schools. Schools that appeal to customers with cutesy uniforms. Fucking hell, no wonder they have a problem with crazy men having fetishes with schoolgirl uniforms. They should get rid of uniforms altogether. In Europe, at least in public schools, there are no uniforms, period, people wear whatever they want and it's OK. And you don't get weirdos losing their shit for schoolgirl uniforms, definitely not at the scale you get in in Japan.
Depends on the school There’s schools in US and Canada that require uniforms too Sometimes they can be more loose about it but still it depends on the actual school
>they take their girls to certain schools "because the uniform is cute". As a Japanese, never heard of it. To begin with, until middle school, you can only go to designated schools in the district, with the exception of private high schools. And according to the survey, 95% of students choose their high school because of their academic ability. No one chooses a school because of its uniforms. If you say that you chose your school because of the uniforms, you will be ridiculed by those around you.
My boarding school didn’t allow sunscreen either, we weren’t allowed to use any skin care products other than moisturiser, perfumes weren’t allowed and if we kept more than one bottle of shampoo,conditioner, etc it would be confiscated.
I would tell my kid to do it anyway, and if the school finds out, I would gaslight them saying something like, "Why do you want to give my kid skin cancer."
Imagine a group of old people in a closed room meeting having the dialogue: “Back in my day, we don’t have sunscreen, we just toughen up” Or “They can’t get stronger if they don’t risk dying!”
Most of these old rules are propagated solely because the teachers or school administrations all think, "Well, we had to follow these rules when we were kids, therefore these students should endure what we endured," as if inflicting their trauma on the next generation is fine and dandy.
Holy shit, I think he might be flipping right!
I can confirm that some people really do think this way.
"Since I had to suffer, so must you."
There is no logic behind this, and in the case of sunscreen, we KNOW how dangerous UV light can be, and skin cancer is no joke.
No. That doesn't explain NEW stupid rules. It's more of a power trip from their part and I'm one of those who are pro school rules.
Surely you are correct and arent just spouting nonsense
@@g76agiit is true. Some idiots argued that kids shouldn't use different kind of school bags because back in the day they had to carry heavy bags.. Typical
I went to an all girls school, trousers were not uniform as it wasn’t lady like, no makeup, nail polish. Skirts had to be below knee, you wasn’t allowed to walk around without a blazer on. The worst one was they assigned teachers to follow you after school to make sure you had uniform on the whole time rather than going in bathrooms in local shops to change into something else… it was madness.
that just sound like hell imo, and pretty creepy/weird
Thats.. just creepy
@@somerandomdude712 ikr! they would have teachers every morning watching you exit assembly and pull you aside to tell you to untuck your skirt (we all used to have them short lol) and a lot of the teachers were male too.
@@SazzyNoodles smh if youre gonna have an all girls school why are there male staff. Beats the point.
@@Andytlpto get that cunny
I worked at a US childcare center and we were legally required to apply sunscreen to every kid before going outside or we could lose our license. Parents had to provide it or they had to provide a doctor's note, which obviously no doctor is going to do unless a kid has an allergy. I feel like Japanese people don't complain enough; I would be getting a doctor's note to allow my child to use sunscreen if I lived there.
Direct confrontation is not a japanese thing tbh
„I feel like Japanese people don’t complain enough“.
That’s absolutely true tbh.
true
Ain't that another compare-contrast to add to the list. Americans tend to not go with the flow and bitch too much. Japanese people tend to be doormat and not speak up when they should. Not saying it's a rule, just a general trend.
Sunscreen shouldn't only not be banned, it should be mandatory. Skin cancer is not a joke, and kids should be thought to protect themselves against it.
And photoaging as a bonus, people be looking way older than they are.
My dad was a builder before he got his real estate evaluation quals. By the time he died, he had only half an ear on one side and 2/3 on the other because of melanomas, twice a year he was having to have cancer removed. But this was Australia, the docs don't fuck around with your skin, but he needed his ears for his hearing aids so the absolute minimum was taken. He also had a few precancers taken off his face as well.
okay idk about mandatory, maybe on really really really sunny days, you wont get skin cancer from talking a walk on a sunny day
This comment is right. Ever seen how sunscreen looks through an infrared lens? It darkens the skin. Think of it as a black car or white colored car. Which color gets hotter? I agree with the Japanese school rules. Sunscreen is not medical really. Make up is another thing. It's like comparing apples and steak.
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What about the people who don't want or need sunscreen. should they be persecuted?
For non-australians: the term Slip, Slop, Slap is a slogan/catchphrase for sun safety. Taught in schools at a very young age.
Slip on a Shirt
Slop on some sunscreen
Slap on a hat.
Growing up in rural Australia myself, there was also "no hat, no play".
If you did not have a hat, you were not allowed to play outside.
that's a very good slogan. we have the same here being taught for decades. they use the slogan smart in the sun. in the 90's the had the kids channel show a clip for it between almost every show I think.
same for new zealand, no hat and you not allowed outside (up to i think intermediate? i guess highschool students know to take care of themselves). ozone layer over aus and nz is kinda fked up
the ads are were fun, if peeps look up the slogan on here, they can be found
thanks for the explanation :3
there are two other s's from that catchphrase now which is seek and slide which you seek for shelter and you slide on some sunnies. they updated the slogan back in 2007 but mostly as you said a lot of australians know the simple 3's which is essential when you're heading out.
Not allowing sunscreen is wild to me, like sure I barely use it because I have almost never got sunburn and have good reason to try to get maximum vitamin d, but a classmate who was on the same trip to Germany during a heatwave was applying factor 50 multiple times a day and still got burnt so there's definitely a need for some people.
I think the strangest rule I had wasn't that strange, except for the change as every previous 6th form year had no uniform only a dress code but mine and future years as far as I know had a uniform enforced.
I would guess that a doctors note would suffice to overrule the school, but it's still ridiculous that you might need that. My limited experience was that things aren't generally that ridiculous but self expression was definitely ruled out. No jewellery (even watches) was allowed but apart from the uniform nothing was mandated. Hair had somewhat similar limitations as described by Joey. But there were no limits on shoes, winter coats or bags at my school.
My parents would take me out of that school if sunscreen was against the rules
People out here thinking banning sun screen is bad , bruh our schools doesn't have pools to begin with 😂
You can still develop skin cancer even if you don't sunburn. The UV rays are being absorbed by your skin either way.
Even if you never get sunburn, the UV rays can still damage your skin. The sun emits frequencies that can reach deeper cell levels, no matter your natural skin type.
Ah yes, the Japanese School experience of getting cancer
And heat stroke
This school rule is ridiculous, it's almost as wild as the banning of ponytails.
Eh? I feel like this ones more wild than that, ponytails are just a cosmetic thing sunscreen is skin protection. There both stupid rules tho lol
@@supercheesydorrito1171 The ponytail thing is more wild, because the reason they ban it is because 'male students will get aroused if they see a females neck'
@@supercheesydorrito1171 It's not just a cosmetic thing tho rt? Ponytails help keep hair out your face and stop you from being so hot in the summer/spring.
@@bri6165and stop loose hair getting caught in machinery.
Girls are scary. Ponytails = more scary girl power. Band ponytails boys and girls equal again. Joking but if boy and girls are the same all are the same. See? Japanese thinking.
For the record, regarding sunscreen the decision to use it doesn't depend on wanting to get a tan or not, it's besides that. Sunscreen is a needed protection no matter what, wether you want a tan or not. It's not something to avoid if you want to get tanned.
It's not a necessity for everyone, only for a handful of people. I've lived my whole life without sunscreen and those around me have too, and considering I live in a country with an average temperature of 50 degrees Celsius, normal people don't need it
@@sensei6771 what this person means is that like Joey said sunscreen protects against UV rays that can cause cancer which is why alot of doctors suggest wearing it whether or not you need it or not
So yeah you dont need it cause you dont burn or anything but a doctor would probably suggest (or not dunno your doctors or state) so you can protect from the rays that happen in whatever weather
Not teying to tell you that you have to use it, keep doing you but still
@@ChibiCorgisCorner first time in ages that someone actually replied calmly on the internet lmfao (thank you).
It's recommended but not necessary, so i feel like its not right to permit it in schools only for them to add more rules on its usage. If it's necessary then it should rather be applied before leaving home rather than in school.
@@sensei6771 are you sure you meant celsius ? because there isnt a country with average temperature of 50 degrees celsius
@@sensei6771 As far as i'm aware not using sun screen increases the risk of skin cancer for everyone. People with darker skin tones do have a lower risk since it protects them more from UV rays however japanese people are not particularly dark skinned. In the end it is a question of whether students should be allowed to apply sunscreen in order to reduce the risk of getting skin cancer later in life. The "best" argument against it is that it takes a minute or two to apply while the argument that it is like make-up is stupid and the idea that it would make the pool much dirtier is directly shown to be a non-issue by every other place that doesn't prevent you from using sunscreen in the pool with no problem. I don't disagree that sunscreen isn't an absolute necessity for everyone but why shouldn't the people who need it be allowed to use it in school? No one is saying that students should be required to use sunscreen just that they should be allowed to use it if they find it necessary.
Only in Japan can I imagine a school essentially requiring their students to risk getting skin cancer
suncreen school rules in Japan are definitely weird, another weird school story, here in the Philippines, a lot of catholic schools do not allow devices, ergo, no phones, no laptops etc. now you might think "hey that's a catholic school, that's pretty predictable for them" welp, let me tell you, IT students aren't allowed either, yep, so my cousin and a friend of mine who partook in catholic schools in senior high school had to code on paper, ON PAPER for 2 years, they didn't even know cmd pops up the moment you run your code, they were like cavemen when I showed them how the compiler computes everything so they don't have to manually check the mathematics in all their codes
Speaking as someone who is paler than Casper, has had two skin cancer scares even with regularly applying sunscreen, and gets sun poison at least once every summer, that rule is dangerous. Especially if there are kids who have a UV-sensitive skin type. The teachers and administrators of those schools are just wreckless with the health and well-being of their students.
The thought that educators are blind to the fact how to differentiate between cosmetics and medicine is honestly astounding, this shows how unwilling they are to expand their horizons to learn something new.
And I agree, those old cats on the board come up with some outrageous conditions just for some personal enjoyment, for them, young children should also learn to bear the pain, that they experienced when they were starting out in the real world, to apparently "steel them".
Permitting the use of sunscreen adds an additional layer of rules to be applied for them to not be misused. Sunscreen isn't required by everyone, one a few who are susceptible to skin diseases. If it's absolutely required then either wear it when you leave your house or just talk it out with the principal to have special permission.
As for the "steel them" part, it's obviously part of growing up. Some of them, like making children suffering from heat in the classrooms instead of switching on the AC or fan can be called personal satisfaction for the adults (although part of its not wrong, you get used to extreme conditions, something that's entirely possible to encounter frequently in life), just giving them freedom over everything is just gonna turn them into a snowflake. Sunscreen is not a necessity, only a requirement by a few who are more susceptible to skin diseases, so it's right for them to not permit then in schools (keep in mind that it can be applied when not in schools as well). I'm Asian who has lived in places where the average temperature was 45 degrees Celsius and other than a handful of students, none of the other students required any sort of sunscreen. If anything it's adds a new problem of students misusing them.
There is a line between liberty and stupidity. Given the rules, Japan seems to know exactly what the boundary is
This is an interesting thing that another video I recently watched on a completely different topic touched on as well. There is simply a large sect of people who believe that other people should suffer just because they themselves had to suffer. It's honestly insane. The entire point of progressing as a society is to make things BETTER for future generations, not torture them just because YOU had to deal with shitty things in your lifetime.
@@KhronicD well that's one problem and this is another.
Sure I agree that there is a lot of stuff out there where the adults want the kids to suffer with its consequences just because the adults did back when they were kids (I've along with many other have experienced it firsthand).
But sunscreen is recommended, not a necessity (to most people). So it doesn't make sense to permit it into the school as it causes more problems that the one it's solving (remember that students are just kids and kids always want to mess around with stuff....so having a bottle of sunscreen with you causes more problems than it solves)
Coming to the topic of events that cause suffering to children that adults do to, most of them are usually valid. As the saying goes 'no pain no gain'......you can't withstand heat if you aren't used to it. You cant lift weights if you aren't used to lifting weights (This is a reference to a story that a Japanese American was complaining about where he said that, when Japanese children used trolley bags instead of the over-the-shoulder bags, they were banned by adults saying that it would turn them into snowflakes. In this case i side with the adults cuz it would indeed turn them into snowflakes). You cant stay fit unless you workout. You cant stay upto date with the syllabus if you aren't given homework, etc.
@@KhronicD btw you can apply sunscreen when leaving your house instead of in the school. Another reason why the rule isn't wrong
This rule makes Peach Girl make so much more sense. (Not to compare everything to manga) I remember reading it and sort of thinking if being tan is such an issue, why not wear a high PF sunscreen? Clearly, she couldn't! (Peach girl was about a high school girl who was very tan because she was on the swim team, part of the conflict was that she got bullied for it and assumed to be a Ganguro, but she couldn't bring herself to quit swimming because she loved it too much. In the end she finds friends and love who don't care about her tan and support her dreams.) This really is wild to me, as a child (and still now) I'm always told to put sun screen on because I burn so easily, my mom would be livid over this sort of rule.
I was just thinking about Peach Girl as I watched this video!
Manga and anime are actually a lot more realistic than people give them credit for, especially the slice-of-life ones. It's true that they can get quite emphatic and even absurd at times, but they're still ultimately based on modern Japanese society, so there's bound to be some parallels.
1. There's water resistant sunscreen.
2. Like you said, it only takes a couple of minutes 20 minutes before exposing yourself to the sun.
3. Sunscreen is skincare and, as long as it's untinted, it doesn't provide any colour correction and it's invisible.
I've heard of some beaches that forbid sunscreen because even if your skin has absorbed the sunscreen, it still has remais that may be toxic for the local fauna at those beaches. Now at a school's pool, sounds like: we don't want to clean our pool as often as we should.
There’s mineral sunscreen. However, those type of sunscreen don’t apply smoothly as he chemical based ones.
Yeah, that's nasty. WTF? Also, Eco-safe sunscreens that don't harm aquatic animals or their environments have been around for decades.
I do not understand the logic of teachers on rules. I remember getting expelled for recycling papers for it. I have seen a lot of students getting expelled for even more unreasonable reasons.
It's decided by "the teacher like you or not"
its part of japans remnant fascism. rules that exist to minimize personal expression and make the youth compliant to all laws no matter how seemingly stupid. japan did not fully heal from its fascist past and it retains many of those aspects. it has high police presence, high surveillance, high suppression of personal expression, overbearing bureaucracy, ect. people like to say "oh its just japanese cultural differences" yeah and many of those differences are called fascism.
@@AbsurdAsparagustell me you are a commie without telling me you are a commie:
@@D4rkn3ss2000closetfascistsayswhat.
@@shutup1037really treated high school, middle school kids like theyre college kids
If the proffessor hates you, you are guaranteed not pass...if this were to happen in my HS or MS, the teacher would get fired
It happens before too
I feel the Japanese adherence to tradition is a hindrance at times.
As a Japanese I have to say that the most critical thing is we have to obey these rules because of “the rule”.
Most of them don't have a rational reason😅😅
A dangerous tool governing bodies use to subdue and suppress people is getting them to submit to dumb rules without question.
If people are made to believe they can't protest, can't get rid of ideas that harms the society they will in the end decline. I think Japan is a good example of that.
Parents should push back during PTA against these kind of ridiculous rules. Sunscreen is important.
What is "The rule".
Explain a bit please?
@@returnedtomonkey8886
It's just because “the rule” literally.
One day I asked my teacher that “what was this rule made for?” and he said “I don't know but you have to keep it because it's the rule even if there is no reason”.
Basically Japanese people are kind of conservative so they(including me😅) tend to avid change.
That's why there are still these rules which were in effect ages ago but now are meaningless.
@@LBenjamin That's true
If I were ever subjected to that kind of school rule, I would simply apply the suncream in the morning as I get ready for school and then a) no one would know I'd applied it and b) it'd be perfectly soaked into my skin well before taking any swimming lessons. Also don't they make waterproof suncreams these days? So that issue of it coming off in the water is now moot anyway!
While I'm sure that would be better than nothing that would absolutely not be sufficient for me unless the outdoor classes were only first thing in the morning. I can apply sunscreen multiple times a day and still end up with a mild burn in the peak of summer.
The thing about sunscreen is that after a hours, you need to top it up, through sweat, swimming etc, it wears off. Oh and we are constantly sweating even in sub zero temperatures, it's just not as much or obvious as on a hot day or through exercise.
I still think the dumbest rule from my school is that we were not allowed to wear jackets unless they had the school logo on them. This wasn't a problem until the hurricane Katrina times where we had heavy wind and rain, or in the winter because the jackets were thin. I ended up getting detention for wearing a winter coat in almost 30 degree weather. What was worse was that the part of the school I was at required me to frequently go outside. Between that and getting detention for reading a book in class (after I had done all my work), I really did not like my school.
So much for encouraging kids to read I guess
"it cuts into the lesson time" 😵 I'm wheezing lol. the number of time I've heard this as an excuse for a bunch of different things.
My school had a rule that disallowed physical contact between students of the opposite gender.
Give your friend a hi-5... After school detention. Give your friend a hug... 2 week suspension from school.
Meanwhile, sneaking in vodka to sell to year 7s (age 11-12)... 2 day suspension. Setting fire to another student... Lunch time detention.
same energy as going to space without a space suit because the school thinks "a space suit is difficult to clean".
Space suits can actually litter space, and cleaning space is difficult 😸
Props to the Abema team who actually brought this thing to light and to Joey for covering this topic
My old highschool have a rule that you can't wear track pants 👖 that have side lines(pattern) more than 2 lines. Yup, you can't wear track pants that have 3 lines. I don't even know why.
Most likely because ADIDAS brand pants have the 3 stripes, and in some places are considered a "premium brand." So it was likely a misguided attempt by the school to prevent classism or bullying based on who could afford expensive name brand apparel. Yes, it sounds just as silly to me now that I've typed it out, but it's not uncommon.
@@KhronicD bro no lol. it's just a regular school. Also who tf would wear expensive pants to school. The one I wore back then was like $7(Around RM30). but your opinion make sense for other countries tho
Get a pair of track pants with three stripes, and separate the third line a little bit with a pen or something, and then technically there is not three lines. Checkmate.
@@MTAKIM-xy9jd Why do you bring up Europe when it was neither brought up directly nor hinted at before? Where's the relevancy?
@@InfiniteDeckhand just bcs i think it's more relevant in European countries, instead of my country
I bet the whole no difference between sunscreen and makeup argument is cuz of tone-up sunscreens. theyre kinda like "makeup", though primarily still a UV PROTECTOR 🤦🏻♀️
Which would be ridiculous in and of itself bc they don't do that much in the first place. I am very pale and use a beige Tone-up sun screen (that I bought here in Japan) and it barely makes my skin look a wee bit healthier and even. The latter likely only being possible bc I have somewhat clear skin, so not comparable to what most teens will look like during puberty 🤔 Not understanding the difference between tone-up skincare (that would include regular creams as well, I assume) and make-up actually makes them look rather... unintelligent tbh.
Rules like that generally often sound like they just hate children - which is concerning for people running schools...
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As someone who gets Sunburn very very very fast, that would be very dangerous. I just hope that Japan will some day get a bit more relaxed with those (outdated) school rules
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@@sensei6771 Bruh.
@@sensei6771 Bruh.
@@sensei6771 Imagine being of North European descent, your ancestors for millenia have grown accustomed to not seeing the sun for more than 2 hours a day for most of the year so you are genetically predisposed to harmful effects of the sun and you get skin cancer because some boomer forbade you from using a life saving elixir because uhhh.... reasons????
@@sensei6771 snowflake for avoiding sunburns and skin cancer ? Jesus christ this is a new low.
This sounds like a rule that was made when sunscreen was a new concept and board, being the senile old fogeys they are, thought it was just a cosmetic that did nothing and made the rule so that kids can suffer like they did and they never updated it since. Screw the potential merits sunscreen has, getting a nice tan (read: suffering excessive sunburns) is *good for the kids* (heavy sarcasm). I bet those teachers are the ones that don't even let the kids have burn ointment because enduring the pain will make them stronger.
Mine was crazy, you're not allowed to tuck your uniform sleeve(we all use long sleeve) and no wearing jacket (you need to take it off at the school gate)
SEA weather is inconcistent, it can be cold asf in the morning and blazing hot in the afternoon. These rules kills me lol
Ah yes. Jacket. I heard some students were accused of hiding drugs just because he's wearing those jacket. In reality he was kinda sick.
Not in my school, but during my highschool era, one school had a bombscare because rivals gangs fight inside their campus. The school's admin decided that all students must use clear transparent bags for few weeks...
My school gave immediate detentions for wearing the uniform wrong in ANY kind of way, it could be as small as not wearing the knee high socks up high enough.
In my lower elementary schools in Finland (I attended two schools) in the 1990s, we had a rule that if you go to the snowball fight area, you are not allowed to leave until the break ends. I remember how once other kids bullied a classmate there and he ran away, a teacher found out, and then he shouted at the kid: 'You know the rules, you go there, you stay there!' So, that rule came from the teachers, not from some peer pressure.
I am now an adult, 37 years old, and I still have no idea what the point of that rule was.
This isn't sunscreen this is makeup that protects my skin from the sun.
Meanwhile Australian schools are all "Put on sunscreen or you will LITERALLY FUCKING DIE."
Isn’t there any kind of health organization that could overrule these schools in Japan?
Nope rules are important. Schools are a place to teach rules. Rules are meant to be followed not to be questioned.
This is the sentiment of the majority, especially on Japanese UA-cam comments. Japanese people are fucking nuts about rules, because we are taught to listen, not to think.
yeah... This weird dogma of absurd rules is basically another side effect of Japans massive group mentallity. It established itself to drill children from a very young age into conforming into whatever society dictates, no matter how insane a rule sounds if you think about it.
Got this explained to someone I worked with once. She was caucasian, but lived and grew up in Japan and saw this first hand. She is a red head, but when her family moved into another city and she got to middle school she was forced to dye her hair black due to school policy, which she absolutely hated (she loved having her red hair thanks to Ann of green gabbles. Hope I wrote that title correctly). She even described to me how she was just sobbing in her room after her hair got dyed for weeks.
After her first year she had enough (due to both her hair and many, many other weird rules and the people working at that school), that she decided one day during break to cut her hair off completely out of protest, leading to her also to find out that another rule of the school was that girls were not allowed to have short hair (shoulder length was the minimum).
Needless to say, she was glad when her parents let her transfer to another school afterwards, even if it ment for her to have a much longer way to get there then before.
a pointless rule in my highschool was only seniors could dress up for halloween - I broke that every year (i also sat in the senior section of the cafeteria for all 4 years as well)
Saying sunscreen is just like makeup is like saying chapstick is just lipstick
I’m from Orlando, and when I was in High School, we were allowed to take our 2 semester long (year long) required PE class during summer school. It was 6wks long, 4 days a week. 3 of the 4 days we’d go bowling, 1 day play volleyball in a freezing gym, and once every 3 weeks run a mile in the gym, because the school board recognized it was too hot outside for physical activity in the Florida summer sun. This was almost 30yrs ago and the bowling alley has since closed so I don’t know what they do now.
11:00 what has sunscreen to do with tanning? Tanning isn't prevented by wearing sun screen...
11:51 so Japanese school pools/public pools do not use chlorine?
Speaking as a WHITE person, I can say that my parents would have been at the doctor getting a note for me if that was an option because I don't just burn, I blister and it's nasty. I think dress codes in general in States have some truly stupid regulations. They vary from school to school, state to state, but there's always a length rule for girls' skirts you can't wear spaghetti straps, no bra straps showing. Etc.
yeah, black skin can burn too. I remember talking to some Aboriginal girls back when we were working on the same banana farm in FNQLD, I said I envied them thier melanin because I while I'm a brunette, I have the red gene and burn easy, and they all laughed and said we need sunscreen too, we burn!
i'm guessing though that you may be albino and so have zero melanin, and you have to check the UV forecast before you go out in the daytime. I know a lady like that, getting caught by the sun can wipe her out for days.
@@silkvelvet2616 Natural brunette that got the red gene too. I just don't ever spend time outside because outside is always trying to kill me. Lol. I have had more than enough bad burns in my life and go to great lengths to not do it anymore. It hurts.
@@silkvelvet2616 dont have to be albino to blister, my cousin gets huge blisters when he’s sunburnt. Once we were at my nans house after coming from the beach and I accidentally walked in on my cousin in the bathroom and he had this massive bubble on us shoulder for a blister the size of a base ball. Although he is extremely pale and also has red hair.
@@Jenntully the worst are the overcast days, when I was a kid, I once got a full body sunburn (almost but not quite 2nd degree) over my whole body except where my cozzy covered me, the palms of my hands and the soles of my feet, under my arms. Even the tops of my ears, and my scalp burned and while I have super fine hair, I have a LOT of it. That day looked like it might rain, but didn't, living in the blue mountains screws with your perspective of cloud cover, especially as a kid.
I live in the UK now, and I tried to talk to my GP about mole mapping and they were like... Huh? Wtf is that? And showed absolutely no interest. My skin is ok for now, 30yrs later, but I do check it regularly, and while I don't really use sunscreen now, I'm careful not to be in the sun for too long, just enough for my vit D, that's it.
i understand if its like a catholic/ private school they would have a skirt length rule im assuming they are just protecting the school reputation, cuz parents would definitely comment on skirt lengths saying its too short etc and probs end up not sending their kids there or whatever
At South African Schools Makeup isn't allowed, but it's pretty damn hot here, I've never heard of sunscreen being banned before and I'm in the teaching profession. I thought it would come down to Japanese culture and them not wanting to change things. Sunscreen is to protect yourself, makeup is purely cosmetic. Teachers are supposed to be holistic and try be mentors and educate learner in life and not just going according to the textbook all the time. Japan sometimes like to overcomplicate things, from what I've heard from your podcast. Its one of those things where some things in Japan are S tier optimised and others are just archaic.
Really appreciating my Danish schools now, when hearing all these rules from other countries.
We don't really have rules... Other than: meet up, pay attention in class and respect school property like you would your own house. Pretty much just a second home where you can learn and have make friends. Of course, I'm lucky to have been born in this time, before uniforms and disciplinary actions like, beating "disrespectful" kids were a thing.
I remember a Danish movie about how school in Denmark really was just like prison. Kids getting beat up so bad, bruises all over, and the "main kid" getting his ear almost ripped off by a teacher/principle, which sparked a revolution, _not sure if that is the right word._ probably rebellion might be a better word.
The movie is "Drømmen" 2006, if anyone is interested. I highly recommend it.
10:00 well don't wanna be that person, but sunscreen is kind of cosmetic from the skin care point of view. There is actually a lot of make-up products which are used for the medical porposes aka taking care of skin - but Japan's school rules are probably pretty vague if teachers cannot tell difference between those 2 types of cosmetics.
Yeah, there are a lot of basic foundation make up products that have sunscreen as a base, but all they would have to do is allow over the counter sunscreen only, like whatever brand they have for Coppertone or Banana Boat etc.
schools in VietNam has this sh*t rule as well (i gratuated years ago so don't really know if it change), the idea is they count as make up and not allow to use is f*cking ridiculous but our outdoor teachers let that slide, use and study in somewhere has shade.
Stupid rule in MY school was :"student with bike have to stop at gate and walk like everyone else to the bike parking spot". It sound normal until you realize the parking spot is in the back gate and you have to walk from the front gate (after traveling 10-12km to get to school, this sh*t is wild), the worst part is they have another path to ride your bike to there but it not allow because reason.
Wow those teachers should know the difference between make up and skin care. Damn. Imagine if they banned wearing deodorants cuz it's a make up too
The third paragraph mentions how “school is a place to learn patience.” lol
Honestly after teaching in Japanese schools during the pandemic, the lapses in judgment schools make when it comes to student health is wild. Also I wonder if the "it might be makeup" argument is because some concealers/etc also have SPF and someone might argue their makeup is sunscreen... but like, Japanese schools control and nitpick SO MUCH of students lives, I don't understand why they can't just get specific about this too.
Some other dumb rules I've witnessed/heard of:
* not allowed to drink water/tea in class (before we had aircon in classrooms and the classrooms would average 85F/29C),
* not allowed to use vending machines outside of school while in uniform (all year round, but especially insane in the summer)
* not allowed to go into stores while in uniform without an adult (because delinquency back in the 80s???)
* not allowed to use their personal cell phone outside of school while in uniform
* not allowed to wear coats inside the school (in the winter when classes get very cold before they turn on heat)
* not allowed to wear tights/leggings outside a designated set of dates (so if it snowed early/late in the year, girls had to just ganbaru and keep wearing regular socks)
* fingernail length regulated to the point every classroom had a set of nail clippers to use during inspection....
I can probably think of more stupid rules we put on students + stupid rules teachers have to follow, too. I remember a student got caught shoplifting and instead of calling the parents, the police called THE SCHOOL and the homeroom teacher had to deal with it instead. Insane.
I lived in Japan and taught at schools for a decade. Sunscreen was not only allowed, it was supplied in huge pump dispensers at outdoors events for free. There are a lot of sunscreens in Japan with bleaching agents specifically targeted at young women that they may be trying to stop. These are essentially beauty products and used by them at all times. My wife is Japanese and does this. Personally, I was fairly vocal against some of the more draconic rules at the schools. One being that girls weren't allowed to wear slacks in winter even though it was snowing. Hair had to be black. Not its natural colour. Black. This meant that students who had naturally brown hair, possibly because they were 'haaf' (mixed ethnicity), were forced to dye their hair. Japan has a collectivist culture that's very community focussed. There's always a push for people to conform and not stand out. There's also an extremely strong hierarchical structure built on obedience to authority above all else. Questioning why isn't part of the conversation there. You're expected to simply agree and believe that your superiors have their reasons, and you don't need to know them.
I can't understand the rationale behind it, in the past few decades we have had several issues with UV rays world wide (anyone remembers the panic over the ozone layer?) I get them wanting to prevent makeup has that has certain health issues associated with it, but even pediatricians recommend the use of sunscreen for children when going out, just how do they reconcile those 2 statements then?
Keep up the great work and videos Joey
As someone who grew up exclusively in places where there are no school uniforms at all and school rules could hardly be any more lax, the entire concept of rules like that is SO wild to me. I can't even imagine how terribly restricting it is. Way to make sure your child can never properly express themselves via their looks. People have tried to sell me on the idea of uniforms time and time again but I will never understand any of the 'pro' points they make in the slightest. It's always like "well, noone will get bullied because of their clothes" and I'm just wondering why people wouldn't simply teach their children not to bully in the first place.
In my mind. The only benefit of uniform is to identify which student goes to which school so they can be easily spotted at public.
My elementary school had uniforms, not only did I hate wearing them and they made me miserable, I was also bullied anyway!
@@Crakygamez But then again why would anyone need to know that?
@@Aghul yeah idk. I'm just guessing.
@@Aghul Here are some justifications for school uniforms.
A uniform in combination with an ID makes it that much harder for randos who can pass for a student to not be able to sneak in as easily, (went to school with no uniform, many girls would sneak in their slightly older 19-21 year old boyfriends for dumb things.) IDs by themselves are only useful if actually inspected and can be more easily stolen/replicated. A uniform ID/combo is like two factor authentication lol.
The benefit of uniforms are also obvious for teacher chaperons during school field trips, especially when there are different schools going to the same historic sights (a common thing in Japan) and to reiterate again, enhancing general safety. It is much easier for teachers to keep accountability if their students are easy to visually track.
Idk about you, but sometimes I would stress out in the mornings about what to wear to class. I didn't want to look like I was wearing the same thing I wore yesterday, but not only was the outfit a wore yesterday more stylish, but it was also more comfy lol. I hated wasting like 3-5 minutes in the morning for such a dumb reason, but it happened and I was just a normal guy for crying out loud!!! I hear this aspect is worse for girls in general. When I was in the military, it was kind of lowkey nice to not have to worry about what to wear. Not every kid actually cares to be a show off or overtly different. Some days I wanted to not be noticed. Plenty of kids are also cool with blending in. Culturally, the Japanese are very collectivist, so the culture itself lends itself to uniform usage.
Also, while it doesn't get rid of bullying, some studies do suggest that uniforms help people in the same associated organization to view each other as more equal or at least part of the same "team". Obviously, your still going to have cliques in school no matter what, but anything to even out the playing field so to speak helps. Also, if your "dressed for a certain role", it can also help with your self image in fulfilling said role along with feeling like you "belong" to whatever organization you said role in. Going back to my time in the military, I certainly wouldn't have felt very soldierly if I was wearing shorts, a t shirt and sandals AND if my fellow soldiers were also wearing something totally different. Your self perception IS affected by what you wear to an extent. Wearing a "school" uniform won't make a bad student a scholar, but it might encourage that borderline failing student into at least passing since their designation of "student" would be reinforced upon them every time they looked at themselves and their peers.
Personally, I think a mix of both methods would be best. By this I mean have like a school blazer, vest, and short sleeve shirt with the school design/logo along with school trousers, shorts or skirts. However, everything else the student decides (ie the shirt under the vest/blazer) socks, shoes, and whatever top/bottom combo they want (ie no designated "summer" or "winter" uniform, just wear whatever feels most comfortable for you that day.) Girls can wear light makeup and earrings if they want, and they can die their hair as long as it's a natural color (so blonde, red is fine, but not blue hair). Same with guys if they are into that I guess. Just don't come to school looking like a KISS band member and or some other out there thing and it's fine xD.
I think this would allow enough personal expression (or none if you don't care much) while still having the advantages of a uniform.
Thoughts?
Not allowing sunscreen? I burn faster than vampires when I go outside in the sun if I don't use sunscreen
Our school banned conga lines because at every break there was this one kid who would just start conga lines in the middle of the playground for the kids who had no hats (no hat no play) and idk I guess the teachers didn’t like it 😂
To comment on the sunscreen rule, I think I might know why for those that aren't well versed in makeup.
If they have a no makeup policy in most Japanese schools, that would apply to certain Sunscreens as you can get what they call "tinted moisturiser" or "tinted sunscreen" that's basically foundation or concealer with an SPF rating.
So I assume the blanket ban of ALL SUNSCREEN is to prevent people from finding loopholes when it comes to using cosmetic "sunscreen" if that makes sense.
Using plain sunscreen feels like it should still be allowed though.
I mean the reasons they gave are not related to sunscreen being a possible loophole for using makeup. But it would make much more sense if they would just say the actual reason and not just try to justify it with "bc of the pool".
14:57 "old dumb rules" is one of the most accurate sentences said in history, these rules are wild
It's not just "kind of" ridiculous but rather ENTIRELY ridiculous. If their reason for implementing such ban is about the pool getting dirty, they could've made it exclusively to pool area only.
It bothers me to think too how do they even know if a student applied sunscreen cuz most of them dries clear (unless teachers manually checks them which is even more RIDICULOUS) and even if some sunscreen leave white residue to skin, they're still hard to notice since most japanese ppl have lighter skin tone. This is a really pointless rule and those affected by this are mostly female students (and ofcourse some male that care for their skin) overall questionable, ridiculous, and pointless. The safety of the students must always be prioritized.
My old school had a list of rules that were pretty ridiculous. For context, I went to a small private Christian school and they were very strict on their beliefs. So for school you had to use a King James Bible and it could ONLY be a King James Bible. If you were caught with any other version of the Bible you would be sent to the principal's office. My school also banned Harry Potter and Twilight (which was basically a good thing lol) as well as Pokémon. Guys practically had to have a buzz cut and girls had to have their natural hair and had to be a certain style. To my knowledge, my family had to fight to let me have my locs in school.
Jesus that is wild. All the schools I've ever been to never had any rules regarding how you dress so this is extra crazy to me
😂What type of Christian doesn’t let you read your own bible
bro my school was so strict that i didn't even had canteen saying it will effect student's health 💀💀
This is what happens when your cultural mindset hasn't left the post-WWII era.
You can see what happened with the US. It's better if Japanese sticks to those so called outdated practices otherwise it's gonna end up like the US 💀
Its not even about getting a tan or not. Some people have skin that is really sensitive and light. I know that my shoulders can get a really bad sunburn in an hour if im not careful. I feel really bad for them.
Silliest thing that happened to me: my school refused to let me wear DMs, despite me having a doctor’s note about needing to wear shoes with more protection. Like, I understand having a uniform, but ffs.
I'm sorry, but what are DMs?
@@czechgop7631 Dr Martin boots. Think soft-soled work / combat boots.
@@flunkskunk Aah OK. Took a look on how they look like and I gotta say I kinda understand both sides. They for sure offer better protection than normal footwear, but at the same time look more like a fashion statement than prescription boots. Maybe an above-ankle work shoes with gel/foam insoles would be an acceptable compromise?
Extract from wiki about DMs for reference:
"The boots were popular among workers such as postmen, police officers and factory workers. By the later 1960s, skinheads started to wear them, "Docs" or "DMs" being the usual naming, and by the late 1970s, they were popular among scooter riders, punks, some new wave musicians, and members of other youth subcultures.[11] The shoes' popularity among politically right-wing skinheads led to the brand gaining an association with violence."
@@czechgop7631 Aye, it was more of what shoes I had available to me at the time. They were fine with me breaking rules with trainers (even Crocs at one point after surgery), but just specifically not Dr Martin’s. I think it was a reputation thing; can’t be having a student from a “prestigious” school wearing punk shoes.
My school had the strictest rules in the region - the school that was stricter was a boarding school 102km away. Tie not tied correctly - detention. Top button not done up - detention. Shirt not tucked in - detention. Girls not wearing the right colour or denier of tights - detention. Boys not wearing the right colour of trousers - detention. Not wearing your blazer one foot inside school grounds - detention.
Laundry day must have been a hoot!
I went to a charter high school in Arizona and the teachers weren’t allowed to give us homework haha it was awesome
Probably because many studies have shown that homework literally adds next to nothing in the way of educational benefit. It just adds stress and less time "off" from school. Schools are slowly learning that time away from school can be just as important as time spent IN school.
@@KhronicD Yeah but so is repetitive behavior as in the more you look over the material the better you learn. But as a kid i refused to do homework as there is no time to play or relax if you have to immediately get to it thanks to all the fucking bullshit they give ya, then you have to fucking do house chores, and then go to bed by a certain time so you can wake up for school just to get more homework especially lugging around those big ass heavy text books
It actually got to the point once that the teachers were worrying about my physical health as i was skinny and was carrying around heavy ass text books from and too school every fucking day as i was never gaining weight since pretty much i was too busy exercising every fucking day and they fucking wonder why i was always so fucking tired. I ate and i ate and i ate but i never could fucking gain weight because of that shit it got so bad i literally started having melt downs and refused to do anything and this was in America by the way.
No kid left behind my ass, the school system seen i could not keep up and decided to just label me as a failure and allow me to slip through the cracks and this was before high school as they literally suggested that i just drop out
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One of the craziest Japanese school rules i heard about was not being able to drink water when walking/exercising outside for gym or something. Idr everything exactly where but a Japanese UA-camr that speaks English mentioned it.
I think it is Sora the Troll. I just watched some of his videos on rules. I also remember that he said that some rules are not as widely enforced anymore.
I have naturally curly hair and the teachers made me straighten it lol
I’m Japanese but never heard there are places that bans sun scream from anyone tho( I doubt that anyone is following this rule. There are a lot of rule that exits but for some nobody follows it so that might be it )…it’s funny I learn something new from this channel even though I literally grew up and living in Japan 😂
Thats what I was wondering, how often was this rule actually enforced. If its an old rule, it could be forgotten that it was even part of the rules, but still within them.
sounds like all the people from the school board districts don’t have no common sense
My High school was co-ed yet they divided the building the building into two separate zones for boys and girls respectively, and boys weren't allowed to go girls side. Girls can come to boy's side but not the other way around, if we did we'd get punished. I think this also makes the list.
When I was in high school , we can't bring our phones with us so we're basically cut off from the outside world. Everyday for 5 YEARS
I went to school in a America and I don’t remember having odd rules. Just the standard ones. 🤷🏾♀️
From a European view the pledge of allegiance (don't know if that is still a thing in USA schools?) is such a creepy and strange thing to me. different cultures I guess.
@@therovingwriter No you're right, it definitely is weird and it's still a thing. Although it's not really a "rule," more just an expectation in that people will look at you weird for not doing it but you won't get in trouble (at least not where *I* went to school.)
Honestly I always thought the clothing restriction rules were creepy to me, since they almost always target specifically the girl's outfits. Like systemic shaming of women's self-expression and bodies is bad enough, but justifying it as "these clothes are banned because they're distracting to other students and staff" is sexualizing and objectifying kids and making them think it's THEIR fault. That's fucked up.
@@therovingwriter It is a weird thing, but I can say in my experience, we didn't do the pledge of allegiance beyond the 4th or 5th grade when I was in school. And that was late 80's early 90's. I'm sure it varies depending where in the country you are, but in my experience it was not a common thing. Even 30 years ago.
@@therovingwriter oh we still do it at least in my school. However no one actually says anything and we all just stand up in silence as maybe one person and the teacher says it
What's standard for you is odd for others, America is as weird to Asians as Japan is to the West.
Amazing video Joey,fantastic job.
Me sitting here with a 100% attendance required b-school!
When I was an exchange student in Japan, I used sunscreen (and even reapplied it at least once as far as I remember) during the sports festival, and my skin was still burned at places, and peeling off afterwards. If our school had had this rule, I'm sure it would have been way worse.
Some rules make sense. Other rules are moronic. Question everything challenge the authorities.
Bro really got sponsored by a hentai platform, man of culture
I can see why (if they were logical) these rules are.
1) there some sunscreens that have glitter or other stuff that wash off BUT the pool should still filter it.
2) I can see it with certain students BUT it shouldn't take you more than 2-3 minutes to apply as Joey said.
3) there are "makeup" version of suncreens BUT (and overall) sunscreen is pretty important for area that gets a lot of sun or those with sensitive skin to UV lights.
This was pretty silly but good cover Joey keep 'em coming ❤
Or maybe put in the sunscreen before leaving your home instead of in the school?
@@sensei6771 that's too logical now 🤣
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@@sensei6771 Sunscreen needs to be reapplied every two hours when you're out in the sun. *Especially* when you are sweating or swimming.
how would they even KNOW you're using sunscreen???
wth.... In canada, we had teachers yell at us for not wearing sunscreen because heat stroke and getting sick from sunburns. I mean, a lot of us are pastey white kids so you look like a lobster.
i know their was a school that regulated underware colour in japan and like... how do you check that with out being pervy to kids... Very weird rules...
So,I actually know a lot about pools, and excessive sun screen is actually a pain in the ass to deal with in pools. However, it's not much more of a pain in the ass than actually keeping the pool clean during heavy use. Of course if the school really wants to ban sunscreen for the pools, but still protect the students from UV rays, chemicals exist that can be added to the pool that apply sunscreen to the swimmers without affecting the water at all. You can easily satisfy the main point of both sides with minimal effort and cost. But that would require people to actually want solutions, instead of looking for reasons to fight
Likely the school admins all grew up without sun screen during school sports (same with my generation in the U.S.) and don't see the problem. Frankly I never heard of anyone from my school getting skin cancer after four years of field hockey or whatever. But maybe the ozone layer is weaker today than it was 30 or 40 years ago?
Corporal punishment in high school. That was a few decades ago but now it’s making a comeback.
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That's so riddiculus. Not only there are serious long-term risks, like the skin cancer you mention, but there are also immediate effects - sunburns. I have very light and sensitive skin and basically my only body parts that I can put out into the sun without using sunscreen are face and hands, everything else get red and sunburnt even after 15 minutes (and in strong summer sun, even my face can get sunburnt). So after 45 minutes/an hour in the summer, my sunburns would probably need medical attention and it would be impossible for me to take part in outdoor activities without using sunscreen.
After hearing all this rules i think my school is better 😅
Another rule that I had to endure in all my schools and even in college was that if I was late, I was sent home.
So the punishment for me missing 5-10 minutes is me missing the whole day. And then the next day I'd even have to justify my absence for the day. This gave me so much anxiety that I'd just not go if it seemed like I was gonna be late.
In my football training, when anyone was late, the coach would make them run laps around the field. Now this seems like a valid punishment. But denying the opportunity to learn, no thank you.
I went to highschool mostly in California. I was punk and would wear spikes on my leather jacket. I only ever got in trouble for wearing a belt made out of empty rifle bullets. I wouldn't of been able to deal with rules like these.
Stupid school rule I experienced (private school in Queensland): you were forced to wear your school hat as you moved between classes. No hat? Detention. All for the sake of looking good for potential visitors of that school.
(School also had an "anti-bullying" policy that was rarely enforced, and a lot of the bullying reportings were swept under the rug to protect their image.
I also worked at a summer camp in Japan, and the number of students that came with essential oil sprays to "protect their skin" was insane. Others didn't even have anything. This was despite the organisers telling the parents to pack sunscreen. But these parents just assumed a hat was enough.
One of the problems, especially girls uniforms, comes from a thing you might not have thought of, Joey, and I know because I've been in the conversation I'm going to summarize. Imagine a group of parents, mostly women, not all Japanese, but mostly, having a chat on why they're sending their kids to this or that school. Imagine a parent expecting to hear "because that school has good reputation / great professors / a fine syllabus / it's in a safe area / looks nice and well kept", but not hearing anything of that coming from the Japanese mothers. Imagine hearing different versions of why they take their girls to certain schools "because the uniform is cute". That, sadly, is to many mothers the main driver of why they want their girls go to certain schools. Schools that appeal to customers with cutesy uniforms. Fucking hell, no wonder they have a problem with crazy men having fetishes with schoolgirl uniforms. They should get rid of uniforms altogether. In Europe, at least in public schools, there are no uniforms, period, people wear whatever they want and it's OK. And you don't get weirdos losing their shit for schoolgirl uniforms, definitely not at the scale you get in in Japan.
Depends on the school
There’s schools in US and Canada that require uniforms too
Sometimes they can be more loose about it but still it depends on the actual school
Wow thats so creepy what the hell
ok
>they take their girls to certain schools "because the uniform is cute".
As a Japanese, never heard of it. To begin with, until middle school, you can only go to designated schools in the district, with the exception of private high schools. And according to the survey, 95% of students choose their high school because of their academic ability. No one chooses a school because of its uniforms. If you say that you chose your school because of the uniforms, you will be ridiculed by those around you.
i also think its hilarious that a country where fair skin is considered ideal beauty is also the country that is banning sunscreen in schools.
Joey probably wants a rule where he can join the all girl class
My boarding school didn’t allow sunscreen either, we weren’t allowed to use any skin care products other than moisturiser, perfumes weren’t allowed and if we kept more than one bottle of shampoo,conditioner, etc it would be confiscated.
It's other adults strutting their legs. They're on a power trip.
I would tell my kid to do it anyway, and if the school finds out, I would gaslight them saying something like, "Why do you want to give my kid skin cancer."
Imagine a group of old people in a closed room meeting having the dialogue:
“Back in my day, we don’t have sunscreen, we just toughen up”
Or
“They can’t get stronger if they don’t risk dying!”
Still better than my elementary school and checking students nails every morning. A kid got his eye scratched one time and they will never let it go.
Saw RAITA in the Fantia ad. Amazing arts like Valkyria Chronicles and other work. Also his sketch went on to become Katawa Shoujo
All school in the UK still have some werid rules for kids. For when i was kid and son now schools rules still strict.