The Humbrol website did use to recommend using Cellulose Thinners when airbrushing these clear cotes. In fact this was the only way I could get the Matt Cote to fully dry, with normally thinners it would always remain slightly tacky when handled (if years later). I will admit my bottles of clear cote are several years old and the composition may have changed to work with standard thinners. I do like the Matt Core though as it really does give a very flat finish.
Matt coats work best for tanks, but do they work well with planes too? I feel like a matt coat would be too un-reflective, and give the plane a unrealistic look. Would a satin coat work better for planes? Since it is not fully glossy, but also not fully matt?
@@DG-qo6vp no, use a gloss to apply the decals then seal it over with a matte, if you were to apply the decals over a matte finish it would be very harsh and the decals would not conform properly
I've used the Matt cote and brush painted it on my models. It really does dry to a completely flat surface and self levels leaving no brush strokes, BUT...and this wasn't mentioned in the video...you'll find that the varnish will seperate in the bottle with a clear fluid ontop and a cloudy liquid at the bottom. Make sure you shake it vigerously so that the bottle is all the same colour and consistancy and you wont have any problems. Great product.
I have never put any varnish through my airbrush unly used rattle cans, only reason is cleaning out the airbrush with solvents would damage the "O" rubber ring in the nozzle & I do not have any replacements.I have only ever used acrylics & water.However I do have a bottle of Vallejo Airbrush Cleaner perhaps that would help?
I really like these to even things out after finishing a kit. I recently completed a 1/72 scale Lightning. I used the Humbrol Acrylic Gloss to prepare for wethering and decals. After decaling I sprayed on the Satin Cote and everything sealed in nicely. You can use the Cotes over decals. Before using make sure you mix very well. They also take a bout twelve hours to dry so plan accordingly. Humbrol products are great. Just mix very, very well.
@@randomdanyt4270 I dont think decals will get damadged. I am pretty sure you can also use a thinner like Mr color thinner or Tamiya lacquer thinner for these clear coats if you want them to dry faster. Athleast they work well on their normal enamel tins and the coats that are being airbrushed or brush painted drys faster. Lacquer thinner and the solvents in it evaporates faster than enamel based solvents (hydrocarbons). Dont use normal hardwarw store lacquer thinner it will destroy decals and is much more dangerous.
Ive just tested this on my Battlestar Galactica (which I sealed using Revell clear gloss) in a small section underneath and its worked a treat removing the shine. But I have a quick question..... After setting decals with Microset & Microsol, is matt cote safe to use to seal decals undiluted? Or it it the case id have to seal the decals first with my Revell clear gloss, then use the matt cote?
It's a shame somebody from Humbrol doesn't answer all the questions here. I know this is a few years old, but shouldn't be that hard to keep up with- can't you receive a notification when someone leaves a comment? Others manage to respond to questions/comments
How or what do you clean your brushes with after using Humbrol Clear Cote? A friend told me to use a small drop of shampoo to clean any brush I've used with enamel paints and that works fine - I've had no subsequent problems using brushes I've cleaned this way (enamel being a solvent, so I'm told, it can glue the hairs or fibres together). So, what's best for cleaning a brush youve used Clear Cote with???
Hi, I think I made a mistake in matt varnishing my model kit (from plastic). I used brush & not thinning the lacquer. I tried to wash it with water, but still no luck. Is there a way to clear matt varnish? Thanks in advance.
Am I able to use enamel based varnish on acrylic painted models? I dont know which varnish to use on acrylic paint, but i want to use humbrol products. I bought some enamel based varnish but i only paint with acrylics. So now I wonder if i can use the varnish that i bought.
I diluted matt cote with some enamel thinners, but for some reason I ended up with a gloss finish rather than a matt finish, why is this, am I doing something wrong with diluting or application or have I kept the varnish in unsuitable conditions?
I jist got subscribed on your channel. Thanks by the way for this video. Ive been searching a technique on how to make cool the action figure by using these method. Now ive got an idea on how to make iron man glossy and the other a matt finish look.
I have recently purchased a storm trooper figure and feel that the white uniform worn by the figure isn't as shiny, what would I use to bring out the white more and make the figure shinier? (I am new to customising)
Are the enamel thinners needed? I just bought each of these and do not have enamel thinners as I am applying it to acrylic surface. Do I need enamel thinners and will this be ok for acrylic painted models?
it's perfectly fine to use enamel paints or finishes over the top of acrylic however you should NEVER mix your thinners, most acrylics are water based and when mixed with enamel thinners they will split out forming a glob of pigment at the bottom, a layer of oil and alcohol and then finally water at the top which no matter how much you stir and agitate will never mix properly again. In short match your thinners with their intended paints and remember to only paint wet on dry if mixing paint types.
Can enamel gloss Cote be safely applied over enamel paint? And can humbrol enamel washes also be safely applied over the enamel gloss Cote? I don't really know what paints (I.e. enamel and acrylic) are compatible and in what order. Thanks
Tom Gilchrist Yes, but make sure you use the same brand. For enamel washes it would be best to use an acrylic gloss coat, but if you leave the enamel one to dry for 24 hours it probably works aswell
Jasper Breur will I be able to apply enamel matte varnish over the acrylic gloss once the decals and wash has set though? That was my original plan (I.e. enamel paint, acrylic gloss varnish, final enamel Matt varnish) but i have no spare material to test it on.
I think this is possible, but I'm not 100% sure. I know it works fine with Revell paints, but I haven't tried Humbrol paints before. As long as you use the same brand I think it should work. I once painted a MiG-21 with Revell enamels and then clearcoated it with an acrylic clear coat from a cheap spraycan, that turned into a disaster: All the paint came off. But when I tried again with a clear acrylic coat by Revell it worked perfectly. Just test a small piece before you do the whole model, just to be sure
@@jasperb9233 brother I want to do an oil wash, with glossy humbrol varnish, I am going to use winton oils, but I am worried about its own oil thinner. I think it is based on turpentine, that is bad? What solvent would you recommend to use the winton oil and not spoil the varnish?
I'm applying the matt cote to my model, let it dry for 24h and then I apply the washes. After applying the washes I remove the excess with thinner/white spirit but the surface remains sitcky. Does anyone knows what the problem could be?
I've referenced this video in my article about miniature varnishing - alkony.enerla.net/english/the-nexus/miniatures-nexus/miniature-hobby/miniatures-how-to-use-varnish-on-miniatures-miniature-hobby-guide
I really like the Humbrol products.
The Humbrol website did use to recommend using Cellulose Thinners when airbrushing these clear cotes. In fact this was the only way I could get the Matt Cote to fully dry, with normally thinners it would always remain slightly tacky when handled (if years later). I will admit my bottles of clear cote are several years old and the composition may have changed to work with standard thinners. I do like the Matt Core though as it really does give a very flat finish.
Matt coats work best for tanks, but do they work well with planes too?
I feel like a matt coat would be too un-reflective, and give the plane a unrealistic look.
Would a satin coat work better for planes? Since it is not fully glossy, but also not fully matt?
You should use matt when your making a weathered design, satin also works for that but i think matt just looks better for that.
@@launderedmemes can you put decals over a matt varnish?
@@DG-qo6vp no, use a gloss to apply the decals then seal it over with a matte, if you were to apply the decals over a matte finish it would be very harsh and the decals would not conform properly
I've used the Matt cote and brush painted it on my models. It really does dry to a completely flat surface and self levels leaving no brush strokes, BUT...and this wasn't mentioned in the video...you'll find that the varnish will seperate in the bottle with a clear fluid ontop and a cloudy liquid at the bottom. Make sure you shake it vigerously so that the bottle is all the same colour and consistancy and you wont have any problems. Great product.
Another great video, keep them coming please.
i would avoid Humbrol products like the plague, and im not sure why i have all this time, this worked a treat, really impressed.
Does matt cote and matt varnish have the same function?
Yes, just different names.
The "cote" varnishes don't turn yellow over time according to their website. They're not the same product with different names.
I have never put any varnish through my airbrush unly used rattle cans, only reason is cleaning out the airbrush with solvents would damage the "O" rubber ring in the nozzle & I do not have any replacements.I have only ever used acrylics & water.However I do have a bottle of Vallejo Airbrush Cleaner perhaps that would help?
You make exceptional videos!
can i use humbrol 35 gloss to make canopies more looking like glass ?
ty in advance
Hi , what happens if I don’t use any thinner ???just brush it whit a brush ? Or can I use water instead of thinner ? Thank you
I really like these to even things out after finishing a kit. I recently completed a 1/72 scale Lightning. I used the Humbrol Acrylic Gloss to prepare for wethering and decals. After decaling I sprayed on the Satin Cote and everything sealed in nicely. You can use the Cotes over decals. Before using make sure you mix very well. They also take a bout twelve hours to dry so plan accordingly. Humbrol products are great. Just mix very, very well.
This is a bit late but did you thin them with enamel thinners if so did the decals get damaged
@@randomdanyt4270 I dont think decals will get damadged. I am pretty sure you can also use a thinner like Mr color thinner or Tamiya lacquer thinner for these clear coats if you want them to dry faster. Athleast they work well on their normal enamel tins and the coats that are being airbrushed or brush painted drys faster. Lacquer thinner and the solvents in it evaporates faster than enamel based solvents (hydrocarbons). Dont use normal hardwarw store lacquer thinner it will destroy decals and is much more dangerous.
Interesting, I use a lot of tinlets of mat varnish, I'll give the cote a go. Nice to see you have put up the channel, needless to say I subscribed!
Ive just tested this on my Battlestar Galactica (which I sealed using Revell clear gloss) in a small section underneath and its worked a treat removing the shine.
But I have a quick question.....
After setting decals with Microset & Microsol, is matt cote safe to use to seal decals undiluted?
Or it it the case id have to seal the decals first with my Revell clear gloss, then use the matt cote?
It's a shame somebody from Humbrol doesn't answer all the questions here. I know this is a few years old, but shouldn't be that hard to keep up with- can't you receive a notification when someone leaves a comment? Others manage to respond to questions/comments
thank you very much
You make it easier to understand the differences between them
Would you recommend these for covering stained glass to seal the paint?
How or what do you clean your brushes with after using Humbrol Clear Cote? A friend told me to use a small drop of shampoo to clean any brush I've used with enamel paints and that works fine - I've had no subsequent problems using brushes I've cleaned this way (enamel being a solvent, so I'm told, it can glue the hairs or fibres together). So, what's best for cleaning a brush youve used Clear Cote with???
Hi, I think I made a mistake in matt varnishing my model kit (from plastic). I used brush & not thinning the lacquer. I tried to wash it with water, but still no luck. Is there a way to clear matt varnish? Thanks in advance.
Am I able to use enamel based varnish on acrylic painted models? I dont know which varnish to use on acrylic paint, but i want to use humbrol products. I bought some enamel based varnish but i only paint with acrylics. So now I wonder if i can use the varnish that i bought.
Can you use another enamel wash over Humbrol enamel cleat coat?
How about "recommending" the best PSI to airbrush the products!
I diluted matt cote with some enamel thinners, but for some reason I ended up with a gloss finish rather than a matt finish, why is this, am I doing something wrong with diluting or application or have I kept the varnish in unsuitable conditions?
Guys I want to apply this by brush onto acrylic paint. What should I use to thin it out with? Will enamel thinners not ruin my acrylics?
Any more videos on the way would like to see more
why does the gloss cote help with washes flowing into recessed parts but the matt or satin cote does not?
Excellent video as always! Could you please, tell me what brushes did you use in this video (I mean numbers)?
Thanks in advance.
I jist got subscribed on your channel.
Thanks by the way for this video.
Ive been searching a technique on how to make cool the action figure by using these method.
Now ive got an idea on how to make iron man glossy and the other a matt finish look.
What psi do you recommend airbrushing these Cote finished at?
What does the gloss cote do different to the clear gloss?
what is the ratio between thinner and matt cote of humbrol because it still shining,I paint with brush
Is matt cote ok to use with decals instead of gloss?
Will these protect against Enamel Thinner and Mineral Turpentine?
sorry for late comment.
@Humbrol One question, for a U boat what varnish do you recommend me? ( Gloss, Satin or Matt?)
Very, very nice and helpful information! Thanks for the videos.
I have recently purchased a storm trooper figure and feel that the white uniform worn by the figure isn't as shiny, what would I use to bring out the white more and make the figure shinier? (I am new to customising)
Venom Fox Reviews gloss coat for sure
Are the enamel thinners needed? I just bought each of these and do not have enamel thinners as I am applying it to acrylic surface. Do I need enamel thinners and will this be ok for acrylic painted models?
it's perfectly fine to use enamel paints or finishes over the top of acrylic however you should NEVER mix your thinners, most acrylics are water based and when mixed with enamel thinners they will split out forming a glob of pigment at the bottom, a layer of oil and alcohol and then finally water at the top which no matter how much you stir and agitate will never mix properly again. In short match your thinners with their intended paints and remember to only paint wet on dry if mixing paint types.
Is there any issue using enamel varnish on acrylic paints, or are both kinds of mediums compatible with each other?
Jim Fisher Thanks for the heads up. I suppose I should do some testing with the products on some spare sprue and see what happens.
Cheers, Ross.
I bought some Matt Cote, n it didnt make a difference at all to an Oxford Diecast Cortina??
question. is satin and semi-gloss the same?
Do you have to use thinners when applying the gloss cote with a brush ?
yes
this video as really helpful because ive been wondering how to get that gloss and matt look to my model planes and tanks :)
You make using those products so easy
i like humbrol products ! bought these 3 but going to use the matt coating on my Kirishima 1/350
Does anyone know how humbrol's spray can Matt Cote works? Is it any different the Matt Cote shown in this video?
Hi, I used Tamiya acrylics to paint my model Spitfire, is it safe to use Humbrol Gloss Cote which is an enamel paint on top of the acrylics?
Colin Long looks like Humbrol never answer. I too would like to know the answer to that question
Can I use the matt cote on dolls? Like Monster High dolls for faceups instead of Mr Super Clear? T.I.A
Dumb question but can you use the matt cote without using the gloss cote first?
Why not?
Can enamel gloss Cote be safely applied over enamel paint? And can humbrol enamel washes also be safely applied over the enamel gloss Cote? I don't really know what paints (I.e. enamel and acrylic) are compatible and in what order. Thanks
Tom Gilchrist Yes, but make sure you use the same brand. For enamel washes it would be best to use an acrylic gloss coat, but if you leave the enamel one to dry for 24 hours it probably works aswell
Jasper Breur will I be able to apply enamel matte varnish over the acrylic gloss once the decals and wash has set though? That was my original plan (I.e. enamel paint, acrylic gloss varnish, final enamel Matt varnish) but i have no spare material to test it on.
I think this is possible, but I'm not 100% sure. I know it works fine with Revell paints, but I haven't tried Humbrol paints before. As long as you use the same brand I think it should work. I once painted a MiG-21 with Revell enamels and then clearcoated it with an acrylic clear coat from a cheap spraycan, that turned into a disaster: All the paint came off. But when I tried again with a clear acrylic coat by Revell it worked perfectly. Just test a small piece before you do the whole model, just to be sure
@@jasperb9233 brother I want to do an oil wash, with glossy humbrol varnish, I am going to use winton oils, but I am worried about its own oil thinner. I think it is based on turpentine, that is bad? What solvent would you recommend to use the winton oil and not spoil the varnish?
I put 2 coats of Matt Cote on my model and let it dry over night. I came back and it is all shiny. can someone help please!
this has happened to me as well i have no idea why
+João Ricardo Subtil I tried mixing it with a stick (as well as shaking the bottle) for several minutes and it worked fine.
I had this as well try thin coats of well mixed
+fastfowler Parkour thx I'll try it
Some of my models it never works but most of them it does. It also may depend on the paint used but I think highly unlikely
Is there a difference in the glosses, I can’t tell
What’s the difference between this and the Humbrol clear range?
The clear range are water based acrylic varnishes.
I'm applying the matt cote to my model, let it dry for 24h and then I apply the washes. After applying the washes I remove the excess with thinner/white spirit but the surface remains sitcky. Does anyone knows what the problem could be?
i`ve strayer satin varnish over my model and it all turned white. didn`t used any thinner because that thing removes colour from model in a second.
Can we apply this matt finish to acrylics paint jobs ?
Alejandro Jimenez you can, but heat it in warm water and hub it a good shake otherwise it may go yellow
are these compatible with polymer clay?
definitely gonna buy them! especially the satin one :)
What Airbrush is that>??????? :O
Can I use the Matt cote on a model after I applied the weathering powders to block them in if not can anyone tell me what product I could use?
+gareth evans I believe you can but I would dial the pressure down; no more than 10 psi. Hope that helps.
can you thin the Matt cote with tap water
Jose Requena
No you cannot, it's an enamel varnish which means that you have to use enamel thinners, turpentine or mineral spirits
anyone know any other matt cotes that I could use?
Thank you
FW190?
What if I dont have thinners?
You can use white spirit for enamel and water for acrylic
this is jon h from scale model medic no? is he employed by humbrol to do these videos?
+MINDER BINDER also whats the difference between gloss and clear?
It is, it displays his name in the first humbrol video.
Nice orange peel effect, i guess i won`t be buying the gloass coat then. Thanks for the helpful tip !
Thats probably due to the surface of the paints already applied, not the clear coat
See if you don't have an airbrush, can you use brushes?
Good stuff!
I love this product because it doesn't crack.
With the spray Matt cote it frosts up when applied could anyone help me?
+James Fender How are you applying it? I've used it with my Badger 105 airbrush and thinned it with Humbrol thinner at a 1:3 ratio with good results.
perfect!
All the surfaces look bumpy on this video after applying the Humbrel...
How😂
I've referenced this video in my article about miniature varnishing - alkony.enerla.net/english/the-nexus/miniatures-nexus/miniature-hobby/miniatures-how-to-use-varnish-on-miniatures-miniature-hobby-guide
bro What brand of thinner would you recommend? for an oil wash? and not spoil the varnish layer
I'm sorry but I watched in horror as they applied varnish to a car body.
What should you apply?