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Build a line, maybe get an elite target or two, then get a quarterback. Perhaps sign a free agent quarterback to mentor said new player, and let the new player sit behind the veteran for a season.
Also, side note: The expansion Browns are probably the worst example of this. If I were them, I’d have traded the first overall pick to Mike Ditka for everything Washington asked for and then some.
Obviously its do able and I still think its the way to go but watching Ridder and Mariota the last 2 years has really made me think abt my pov and consider why some teams take a QB before I’ve deemed them “ready”.
"if you only looked at his highlights he would be a top 10 QB" is such a a perfect way to summarize Fields, such incredible talent in flashes but no consistency
@@JJ-zr6fu why the vitriol? The hatred on Fields is so strange. He was thrown into the worst situation of the bunch and played well in spite of the bears. Lawerence is the only other one who played well.
As a Patriots fan, it infuriates me we squandered jones. Patricia was a stupid call, Joe Judge was a stupid call, and overall, the situation was dropped harder than a carton of eggs.
They had a chance to really build behind Mac after his rookie season and fucking squandered it. They didn't bring in any notable feee agents and took back a mediocre defensive coordinator to run the offense.
tho mac rookie season was prob the best they couldve gotten he was a higher floor low ceiling safety pick with no arm talent and poor decision making with overinflated stats throwing to all american receivers against inferior teams. While i do think his development was harmed by shit decisions, he was gonna be just a 2008-2010 matt cassel or an alex smith tier qb imo
didnt have the arm to compete with guys like allen or mahomes but didnt have the decision making and other assets that were able to to make up for it that allowed elite qbs to get away with a weaker arm which were masked by the playmakers on offense that allowed him to make easy high percentage throws and bail him out
1000%. If the Niners picked him, he would have been in the Super Bowl by now. He was going to be good. We ruined his career. Hope he takes Trevor's job.
@@GDaddyyydef possible but he’d be a system qb/game manager given lack of arm strength and velocity and brock purdy a better ovr player anyway in terms of velocity and has a stronger arm than mac so idk
I've been noticing a trend between College and NFL football, and I'll start with the NFL. NFL has been going HAM on QB's, there have been more busts since 1998 then there were the previous 25 years before 1998, @Rudipu here said it best, just because you need a QB, doesn't mean you should take one. It's more than that though, NFL teams demand youth over experience, even if it means starting rookies with no starting experience whatsoever in the NFL, so many QB's coming out of college need to sit like Rodgers/Love/Mahomes did before they can start, but most of the NFL doesn't have that patience, many of these QB's should be drafted Day 2/3 instead of 1st round, unless your name was Trevor Lawrence (who's getting ruined by a poverty franchise), the Mannings, or CJ Stroud. It's a proven statistic that 1st round QB's are almost guaranteed to not turn your team around in year 1, it's so rare yet teams keep trying. It's almost like the NFL is forgetting it's a PROFESSIONAL football league, and there are veterans that are either already proven, or have sat long enough to be given a shot. There was a 7 year period that was pretty much just that, guys coming out of no where to win SB's vs a 1st round QB on his original team, that would be the SB31-SB37 years, Favre was a 2nd round mistake pick by Atlanta, traded to the Packers, and turned them around, SB32-33 would be won by the only 1st round pick in those years, Elway, SB34 was won by a UDFA in Kurt Warner, then Free Agent Trent Dilfer would win one with the Ravens then be the only SB winning QB to be cut afterwards, Brady's 1st, then Brad Johnson and the Buccs, another FA. The NFL has officially over valued the QB, they're desperate, 23/32 teams last season started a backup for any reason, and it's this lack of patience that is causing it, with all the good-great-HoF QB's retiring, getting injured, or simply declining in their careers, the replacements have not been very good. There used to be a time where trading for a backup QB to try and start him was an option, having tryouts were an option, and while also rare, signing future HoF's who feel their careers aren't over. If the NFL wants to be a competitive league, they need to re-evaluate how to handle QB's, draft them later, sit them while their cheap, pay them if they earn it. Ironically, there is a position imo that will benefit from this, the RB, they may have the shortest term careers, but if more get drafted 1st round, that money goes back up for them, and most only play their rookie deals, it's a win win. Meanwhile, College has been going the opposite direction (even in basketball with Calipari's comments on recruiting and going to Arkansas!), the transfer portal has made it to where colleges are now demanding experienced starters over recruiting 4-5* prospects out of high school. It honestly annoys me, college football used to be where you'd only start upperclassmen if your recruits weren't special yet, but if you had a special 4-5* high school kid on your team as a FR, you'd play him right away anyway even if he never started a college game. Now? like I said, teams are demanding experience... Which makes no sense considering there's no preseason in college and the games are getting shorter now, how is anyone supposed to get playing time now if you're an underclassman? Who needs high school kids when you can lure a star college JR with NIL money to play for you? The irony of this? I haven't seen it work out for some teams (WI, Tanner Mordecai was such a bust imo!), but don't be surprised if it becomes the norm where P4 teams just straight up ignore high school kids in the future and recruit kids from lower divisions. It's bizarre, essentially, my hot take is that the NFL is becoming more like college by going for athletic youth over experience, while the NCAA are going for elite veteran athletes instead of developing high school kids.
One of the hosts on a local sports radio program I listen to made a great point about QB's. He said teams often evaluate them the opposite way from how they evaluate every other position on the team. Teams will evaluate a player's talent and decide if what they do fits their scheme. If a player fits, they get drafted pretty simple. With QB's, teams will overlook glaring weaknesses and focus only on the positive. Your point about the desperation teams have for finding the right QB is exactly why they do this.
@@slayermill8621 considering what happened night 1 of the 2024 nfl draft, my point seems vindicated, hell I joked that 7 QB's may go 1st round, and within the 1st half of the draft I thought that joke was going to come true...
@@frenchfrey65Who is the best quarterback on the board after day one? And I totally agree that a lot of quarterbacks needed more time to sit than they got.
This was always a Lawrence + whatever could be developed QB class. Lawrence struggling at times is a huge surprise but Wilson busting isn't. Lance being too raw to play and Fields being all over the place also aren't hugely surprising. Mac Jones is a classic high floor player who required confidence to play like he did in his rookie season and at Alabama and the Patriots completely made him uncomfortable with the new play callers in year 2 and then blamed him for it and apparently he didn't take that well. Essentially there was 1 superstar on paper and a 2-3 more maybes with huge boom and bust potential and then a solid starter with low upside in Jones and literally every single guy has been on the lower end of their individual projections.
Trevor Lawrence still has a chance to show he’s the guy. The Jags replaced the worst starting center in the league and could get a true #1 WR this draft. I believe he will have a bounce back year this upcoming season.
2021 class needs to be studied on how much hype this class got just to fall off the face of the earth only a few years later. I just hope this upcoming class isn’t like that because I really hope all these guys make a great career in the league
But it didn’t at all look at this year Williams is Lawrence (both will be long time starters) Daniels is fields an athlete that threw to wr corps better than any nfl team McCarthy is Lance looks good on an all star and not asked to do much Penix and maye are Wilson although I think Penix is better and has a shot Bo nix is mac jones a scheme qb
@JJ-zr6fu you honestly nailed these lol Daniels too me is a rich man's fields nice arm great athlete but tends to rely on the athleticism too much and when he runs/scrambles tends to take a lot of hits and as a runnin QB you can't get away with takin those constant big shots outside the pocket unless you have Josh Allen cam Newton size which Daniels doesn't maye is a kind of hit or miss for me I could sein potentially bein the best QB of the class or a bust depends where he goes I would honestly like for him to go somewhere where he can sit for a year or two I agree with you on nix he can be a good maybe even great QB but he has to go to a team that schemes to his strengths phenix I kinda whatever on borderline superstar level arm talent he legitimately is one of the best deep ball throwers I've ever seen but he's older has just meh pocket presence and has had a lot of injury issues the one guy I'm an really high on tho is McCarthy I think he has superstar potential if he goes to a team that's patient brings him along slowly allows him to sit 1 preferably 2 or so years I think he could end up being special and of course williams is gonna be a beast a lot of the off field stuff gave me a bit of cause to pause but his talent is ridiculous
I feel so bad for Mac Jones. I don't think he's awful, but having to deal with Bellicheck just angry panicking that people questioned his actual coaching ability (he's really smart and knows the game extremely well, but you kind of tilt yourself if you listen in on people just saying your entire career was a sham because you had the greatest QB of all time by your side) making some really bad decisions, not to mention the OFC Jones had to deal with (like Butt Chin O'Brien and his dumbass ways, forever mad is Houston for tanking the team for so many years) weren't very good and extremely volatile people. I definitely don't think he's great, but people are going to shit on him for what he was given, and I hope a team actually gives him SOME effort instead of having OFC scream at you for not learning their dumb static plays rather than revolve around the QB's abilities.
To this day it annoys me to no end that anytime people talk about Zach Wilson, they feel the need to mention the fact that he played a soft schedule his junior year. When you bring up Trey Lance, who played fewer games against worse competition, no one brings up the soft schedule. Wilson went to the absolute worst place imaginable, a bad team with no o-line, a defensive head coach, and gave him an offensive coordinator who rode Kyle Shanahan's coattails, only to replace him with a guy who rode Aaron Rodger's coattails. He never should have gone that high, balling out during his pro day may have been the worst thing he could have done.
As a Bills fan, I feel so bad for him. Especially after this year. He showed real improvement, but it got ignored cuz of turnovers. He coulda had the chance to sit behind Aaron Rodgers and learn to have better short and medium accuracy. When he was drafted, he was put into the WORST situation you could IMAGINE. He had absolutely NOTHING. I hope if he gets traded he fins success.
I think Lance hardly playing football and yet still looking decent every time he does is why he gets more benefit of the doubt than Wilson who has played plenty and still mostly looks bad.
They do the same thing now where Bo Nix and Michael Penix are too old and their play really improved once they got better coaching and players on their team. Then they'll talk about how much they love Jayden Daniel's and never mention he's in the EXACT same boat.
He got yanked because Brock is way too good. I weren't that mad at Kyle Shanahan on the pick, 2,3 jet-chip wasp and Jimmy G overthrowing the deep pass in SB54 probably haunted this man. He wanted an upgrade on QB, to swing for the fences, similar to the Alex Smith-Patrick Mahomes situation. However, I believe Kyle was too adamant on his system, unlike Andy Reid who caters his system to a young QB. As a result, Lance wasn't a right fit for Kyle. Then, he stumbled across Brock Purdy who is the perfect fit for him, thus Lance was traded. Lance untimely injuries surely didn't help, but ultimately, it was just a bold gamble that backfires.
as a washington fan, watching zach wilson’s meteoric rise feels eerily similar to jayden daniel’s. i’ve been following daniels since he was a HS recruit; prior to this season, the very thought of him going 1st round (let alone #2 overall) was less than nonexistent. this video perfectly demonstrates why you should never reach for a qb, especially if you have needs everywhere else. i know it’s impossible at this point, but i wish so badly we would just take harrison jr and continue building our team.
At least he won the Heisman which adds some value and is a much better dual threat than Zach. Saying picking Wilson makes no sense isn’t even a hindsight take, people were confused about it even at the time that he went #2 overall, and said he was the most likely to be a bust.
That year for QBs has really showed me how little ANYONE knows about them. The best run NFL system according to some (49ers) drafted Trey Lance. The football savant Bill Bellichek drafted Mac Jones, the can't miss player of the generation Trevor Lawrence has looked average. I was not different because I legit thought every one of these guys would be amazing. I can't pretend to know anything about 2024 draft. For all I know every one of them could be a bust
Bill belichek is officially the most overrated coach. If he didn’t have Brady he’d be a dc. Mac jones and Lawrence were my two top and thought the others were busts. I think both of them will have long careers as starters
@@JJ-zr6fu Jones needs to find his confidence and Jacksonville needs to stop being Jacksonville. I actually think if Lance can end up as a backup again he could still become a starter again provided he doesn't get injured the week after replacing the starter. He has looked the least bad (in a very limited sample size) despite the lack of experience of the the high upside and low floor guys, it's a long way back but I feel like his projection is more interesting than Wilson (solid bust) and Fields (likely Jameis Winston at best just more athletic).
KTO is a browns fan,i highly doubt he is throwing shade and thinking he has it any better, and you are a packers fan, congratulations on wasting Rodgers career
@StandbySM we would have been set up to make the playoffs if Justin played well and we traded that 1st overall for a buttload of capital like we did last year. Theres zero guarantee Williams will be anything
@@OhMirage i mean he's not Tim Boyle but he's also not Joey B. He's dramatically overpayed. But ig if the team actually gets better next offseason they could be in playoff position next year and maybe win 1 game if they're lucky
As I get older I’m excited to see all of the young talent in all of the leagues come out. Even if it’s against my home state Az. Good luck young dudes.
People also forget that the niners traded three first round picks for Trey Lance 💀 the only reason why people don’t clown on them harder is because they lucked into Brock Purdy
@jUaN-cw2bz uh, wut? They were going to sit him behind Jimmy to develop (at least until week 10 when everyone gets sick of jimmy lol) then when he got a chance he got hurt, then Brock stunned everyone and stole the starting job. You don't need to rock the boat by putting Lance in when you know you already got your guy. It's not like Trey didn't get his chance (practice is a thing) and I trust the 49er coaching staff.
In zach Wilson's defense, he never should have been drafted that high, or at all. The media got caught up in his flashy numbers against basically high-school teams and the jets fell for it
As a Jets fan. The Wilson pick killed me on the inside. I wanted to grab Penei Sewell and give Darnold a final year. The Wilson selection felt like a knife to a heart that I almost gave up on being a Jets fan. I thought he was undraftable.
Sam Darnold had already proven that he was a bust as a quarterback. The Jets apparently had had enough of Sam Darnold and wanted to move off of him as soon as possible.
@@ErikCB912as a jets fan, I've picked up on their formula: 1. Have a bad team (almost always the case we haven't had a winning record since 2015) 2. Draft a good quarterback in the first round instead of building a good foundation (skill positions, defense, etc) 3. Blame the QB when he has to get passes off in 2 tenths of a second when his offensive line is about as strong as Biden's border policies and he has zero help on defense 4. Call the QB a bust and cut him after three seasons 5. Goes to another team and then does better 6. Repeat process
My friend told me in 2021 that Trevor Lawrence would be the only one out of every single QB chosen that year to be successful, when Mac jones was a great QB. Looking back on his comments (he is a fins fan while Im a pats fan), safe to say, he was right.
More 2-5 year starters in 2024 than from the 2021 draft class. Penix, Nix, Hartman and Rattler have been starters in college for a while. Lance and Mac Jones only started a year.
It's amazing how good San Fran has been despite giving up so much and whiffing on Lance. If they had gotten pretty much anything out of those picks, they could easily have multiple championships.
the 2021 QB class I feel was almost a law of averages to recover from just how amazing 2020 was lol... Joe Burrow, Tua, Justin Herbert, and Jordan Love is wow
As someone who works over at Levi’s, I got to see what happened to Lance first hand. Can’t really blame him honestly but the worst thing that could happen to him was a better and ready QB
You know Lawrence is good when his team crashes the moment he gets slightly injured. He took the worst team at the time to a playoff. He didn't take a stacked Niners or stacked Eagles team to a playoff.
i just feel like trevor’s bound to have a generational season. this year or next year, it feels like he’s gonna have a 5k, 45+ touchdown mvp season. idk why.
0:25 It was the latter. You really don’t have to watch the rest of the video beyond this point😂, but the explanation of how it became this way is very interesting.
I think the quarterbacks in this class is a prime example of why you need to make sure you know the situation your quarterback is going to be in and why it’s important to build around him.
I think you could draw some parallels to what happened to Baker Mayfield with his injury, and Trevor Lawrence. Moreover, you could also draw that parallel between Lawrence and Peyton Manning, one of the other more highly touted prospects at the position, and his early career off/on struggles. I think if you give up on him you could end up regretting it, and that he could develop into the prospect fans expected him to be.
Ngl Trey Lance isn’t a complete Bust he was playing decent and was still developing but then got injured and Brock came in Not really a bust more just a weird situation
Fields was a guy I loved to watch in college but I had a feeling his game just wouldn't translate consistently to the pros. He was way too reliant on his legs.
My buddies and I stopped watching the Jags-Chargers wild card game after the first half... we had no idea what happened until the game was over and somebody checked their twitter
Wow. Trevor Lawrence is really the only one who’s worked out. He went backwards a bit in 2023 but I think he’ll turn it around. He’s such a good passer he has to.
Trevor Lawrence is the average QB so far, but he is the only one who might have the contract extension among 2021 QB class. I am not sure whether Trevor Lawrence can be with Jaguars after 2026.
Of these guys, Wilson seems like the one true bust who will never turn into much of anything. Lawrence I suspect will turn into a top 10 guy year in and year out, but perhaps not "generational". I think Trey Lance's bad luck with injuries means the jury is still out on him and maybe he appears as a starter in 4 years. Impossible to say. Fields just has to learn how to finish games without dumb mistakes. Jones probably will be one of those guys who starts here and there and stays in the league 15 years without being remarkable.
Problem is most of these guys need to sit for a full year before coming in ever. College game is so different now it takes time for a guy to adjust. That’s why I don’t think Caleb Williams will be as good if he starts from the get go.
I mean I know it doesn't matter since we have Purdy now but I definitely feel like Mac Jones would've been a star with the 49ers instead of being ruined by the Patriots.
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Just because you need a qb doesn't mean you should take one. Most of these teams that take qbs early would be better off building lines.
I get surprised at how many people don't share this exact view.
Build a line, maybe get an elite target or two, then get a quarterback.
Perhaps sign a free agent quarterback to mentor said new player, and let the new player sit behind the veteran for a season.
Also, side note:
The expansion Browns are probably the worst example of this. If I were them, I’d have traded the first overall pick to Mike Ditka for everything Washington asked for and then some.
The gms do it to save their jobs a lot of times ik they think if it doesn’t work they won’t be the ones who have to fix it
Obviously its do able and I still think its the way to go but watching Ridder and Mariota the last 2 years has really made me think abt my pov and consider why some teams take a QB before I’ve deemed them “ready”.
"if you only looked at his highlights he would be a top 10 QB" is such a a perfect way to summarize Fields, such incredible talent in flashes but no consistency
That’s the organization.
@@PapaChummy I agree, I think Fields is capable of a lot more than what he was able to show on the Bears
You can say the same thing about any back up qb which is what fields is a back up
@@JJ-zr6fu why the vitriol? The hatred on Fields is so strange. He was thrown into the worst situation of the bunch and played well in spite of the bears. Lawerence is the only other one who played well.
@PapaChummy fields didn't play that well usually, he just has a lot of good individual plays
As a Patriots fan, it infuriates me we squandered jones. Patricia was a stupid call, Joe Judge was a stupid call, and overall, the situation was dropped harder than a carton of eggs.
They had a chance to really build behind Mac after his rookie season and fucking squandered it. They didn't bring in any notable feee agents and took back a mediocre defensive coordinator to run the offense.
tho mac rookie season was prob the best they couldve gotten he was a higher floor low ceiling safety pick with no arm talent and poor decision making with overinflated stats throwing to all american receivers against inferior teams. While i do think his development was harmed by shit decisions, he was gonna be just a 2008-2010 matt cassel or an alex smith tier qb imo
didnt have the arm to compete with guys like allen or mahomes but didnt have the decision making and other assets that were able to to make up for it that allowed elite qbs to get away with a weaker arm which were masked by the playmakers on offense that allowed him to make easy high percentage throws and bail him out
1000%. If the Niners picked him, he would have been in the Super Bowl by now. He was going to be good. We ruined his career. Hope he takes Trevor's job.
@@GDaddyyydef possible but he’d be a system qb/game manager given lack of arm strength and velocity and brock purdy a better ovr player anyway in terms of velocity and has a stronger arm than mac so idk
I've been noticing a trend between College and NFL football, and I'll start with the NFL.
NFL has been going HAM on QB's, there have been more busts since 1998 then there were the previous 25 years before 1998, @Rudipu here said it best, just because you need a QB, doesn't mean you should take one. It's more than that though, NFL teams demand youth over experience, even if it means starting rookies with no starting experience whatsoever in the NFL, so many QB's coming out of college need to sit like Rodgers/Love/Mahomes did before they can start, but most of the NFL doesn't have that patience, many of these QB's should be drafted Day 2/3 instead of 1st round, unless your name was Trevor Lawrence (who's getting ruined by a poverty franchise), the Mannings, or CJ Stroud. It's a proven statistic that 1st round QB's are almost guaranteed to not turn your team around in year 1, it's so rare yet teams keep trying.
It's almost like the NFL is forgetting it's a PROFESSIONAL football league, and there are veterans that are either already proven, or have sat long enough to be given a shot. There was a 7 year period that was pretty much just that, guys coming out of no where to win SB's vs a 1st round QB on his original team, that would be the SB31-SB37 years, Favre was a 2nd round mistake pick by Atlanta, traded to the Packers, and turned them around, SB32-33 would be won by the only 1st round pick in those years, Elway, SB34 was won by a UDFA in Kurt Warner, then Free Agent Trent Dilfer would win one with the Ravens then be the only SB winning QB to be cut afterwards, Brady's 1st, then Brad Johnson and the Buccs, another FA.
The NFL has officially over valued the QB, they're desperate, 23/32 teams last season started a backup for any reason, and it's this lack of patience that is causing it, with all the good-great-HoF QB's retiring, getting injured, or simply declining in their careers, the replacements have not been very good. There used to be a time where trading for a backup QB to try and start him was an option, having tryouts were an option, and while also rare, signing future HoF's who feel their careers aren't over. If the NFL wants to be a competitive league, they need to re-evaluate how to handle QB's, draft them later, sit them while their cheap, pay them if they earn it. Ironically, there is a position imo that will benefit from this, the RB, they may have the shortest term careers, but if more get drafted 1st round, that money goes back up for them, and most only play their rookie deals, it's a win win.
Meanwhile, College has been going the opposite direction (even in basketball with Calipari's comments on recruiting and going to Arkansas!), the transfer portal has made it to where colleges are now demanding experienced starters over recruiting 4-5* prospects out of high school. It honestly annoys me, college football used to be where you'd only start upperclassmen if your recruits weren't special yet, but if you had a special 4-5* high school kid on your team as a FR, you'd play him right away anyway even if he never started a college game. Now? like I said, teams are demanding experience... Which makes no sense considering there's no preseason in college and the games are getting shorter now, how is anyone supposed to get playing time now if you're an underclassman? Who needs high school kids when you can lure a star college JR with NIL money to play for you? The irony of this? I haven't seen it work out for some teams (WI, Tanner Mordecai was such a bust imo!), but don't be surprised if it becomes the norm where P4 teams just straight up ignore high school kids in the future and recruit kids from lower divisions.
It's bizarre, essentially, my hot take is that the NFL is becoming more like college by going for athletic youth over experience, while the NCAA are going for elite veteran athletes instead of developing high school kids.
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One of the hosts on a local sports radio program I listen to made a great point about QB's. He said teams often evaluate them the opposite way from how they evaluate every other position on the team. Teams will evaluate a player's talent and decide if what they do fits their scheme. If a player fits, they get drafted pretty simple. With QB's, teams will overlook glaring weaknesses and focus only on the positive. Your point about the desperation teams have for finding the right QB is exactly why they do this.
@@slayermill8621 considering what happened night 1 of the 2024 nfl draft, my point seems vindicated, hell I joked that 7 QB's may go 1st round, and within the 1st half of the draft I thought that joke was going to come true...
@@frenchfrey65 For sure I agree with you 100%. If Shedeur Sanders had declared this year that probably would've fulfilled the prophecy.
@@frenchfrey65Who is the best quarterback on the board after day one?
And I totally agree that a lot of quarterbacks needed more time to sit than they got.
Watching this instead of doing my final paper... today is a good day!
Watching this instead of studying for my AP World exam in a month.
Yall both gunna fail those papers/exams.... jus sit back relax and waste your life on youtube like the rest of us lol...but yous got this shit boys
Same lol
lol same
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This has to be by far one of the most underwhelming draft QB class in NFL history
This is certainly underwhelming, but 1996 and 2007 would like a word with you.
This was always a Lawrence + whatever could be developed QB class. Lawrence struggling at times is a huge surprise but Wilson busting isn't. Lance being too raw to play and Fields being all over the place also aren't hugely surprising. Mac Jones is a classic high floor player who required confidence to play like he did in his rookie season and at Alabama and the Patriots completely made him uncomfortable with the new play callers in year 2 and then blamed him for it and apparently he didn't take that well. Essentially there was 1 superstar on paper and a 2-3 more maybes with huge boom and bust potential and then a solid starter with low upside in Jones and literally every single guy has been on the lower end of their individual projections.
Not even close what about the class Daniel Jones came from
No way 2022 is way worse. If the Niners hadnt taken Purdy last, it would be complete shit
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Trevor Lawrence still has a chance to show he’s the guy. The Jags replaced the worst starting center in the league and could get a true #1 WR this draft. I believe he will have a bounce back year this upcoming season.
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2021 class needs to be studied on how much hype this class got just to fall off the face of the earth only a few years later. I just hope this upcoming class isn’t like that because I really hope all these guys make a great career in the league
But it didn’t at all look at this year
Williams is Lawrence (both will be long time starters)
Daniels is fields an athlete that threw to wr corps better than any nfl team
McCarthy is Lance looks good on an all star and not asked to do much
Penix and maye are Wilson although I think Penix is better and has a shot
Bo nix is mac jones a scheme qb
@JJ-zr6fu you honestly nailed these lol Daniels too me is a rich man's fields nice arm great athlete but tends to rely on the athleticism too much and when he runs/scrambles tends to take a lot of hits and as a runnin QB you can't get away with takin those constant big shots outside the pocket unless you have Josh Allen cam Newton size which Daniels doesn't maye is a kind of hit or miss for me I could sein potentially bein the best QB of the class or a bust depends where he goes I would honestly like for him to go somewhere where he can sit for a year or two I agree with you on nix he can be a good maybe even great QB but he has to go to a team that schemes to his strengths phenix I kinda whatever on borderline superstar level arm talent he legitimately is one of the best deep ball throwers I've ever seen but he's older has just meh pocket presence and has had a lot of injury issues the one guy I'm an really high on tho is McCarthy I think he has superstar potential if he goes to a team that's patient brings him along slowly allows him to sit 1 preferably 2 or so years I think he could end up being special and of course williams is gonna be a beast a lot of the off field stuff gave me a bit of cause to pause but his talent is ridiculous
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Wilson had some good college performances to his credit, but as they say, his opponents weren’t very good, and he hasn’t translated at all.
I feel so bad for Mac Jones. I don't think he's awful, but having to deal with Bellicheck just angry panicking that people questioned his actual coaching ability (he's really smart and knows the game extremely well, but you kind of tilt yourself if you listen in on people just saying your entire career was a sham because you had the greatest QB of all time by your side) making some really bad decisions, not to mention the OFC Jones had to deal with (like Butt Chin O'Brien and his dumbass ways, forever mad is Houston for tanking the team for so many years) weren't very good and extremely volatile people.
I definitely don't think he's great, but people are going to shit on him for what he was given, and I hope a team actually gives him SOME effort instead of having OFC scream at you for not learning their dumb static plays rather than revolve around the QB's abilities.
Bro he's terrible. Cut it out.
To this day it annoys me to no end that anytime people talk about Zach Wilson, they feel the need to mention the fact that he played a soft schedule his junior year. When you bring up Trey Lance, who played fewer games against worse competition, no one brings up the soft schedule. Wilson went to the absolute worst place imaginable, a bad team with no o-line, a defensive head coach, and gave him an offensive coordinator who rode Kyle Shanahan's coattails, only to replace him with a guy who rode Aaron Rodger's coattails. He never should have gone that high, balling out during his pro day may have been the worst thing he could have done.
As a Bills fan, I feel so bad for him. Especially after this year. He showed real improvement, but it got ignored cuz of turnovers. He coulda had the chance to sit behind Aaron Rodgers and learn to have better short and medium accuracy. When he was drafted, he was put into the WORST situation you could IMAGINE. He had absolutely NOTHING. I hope if he gets traded he fins success.
I think Lance hardly playing football and yet still looking decent every time he does is why he gets more benefit of the doubt than Wilson who has played plenty and still mostly looks bad.
They do the same thing now where Bo Nix and Michael Penix are too old and their play really improved once they got better coaching and players on their team.
Then they'll talk about how much they love Jayden Daniel's and never mention he's in the EXACT same boat.
He’s simply not good bro
He is simply a shitty prospect. Regardless of Trey Lance. A blind man could see that Wilson was an overrated overdrafted one year wonder
Trey Lance got absolutely wasted in SF. It sucks he never really got a chance, getting benched and then injured when you finally get on the field
He got yanked because Brock is way too good. I weren't that mad at Kyle Shanahan on the pick, 2,3 jet-chip wasp and Jimmy G overthrowing the deep pass in SB54 probably haunted this man. He wanted an upgrade on QB, to swing for the fences, similar to the Alex Smith-Patrick Mahomes situation. However, I believe Kyle was too adamant on his system, unlike Andy Reid who caters his system to a young QB. As a result, Lance wasn't a right fit for Kyle. Then, he stumbled across Brock Purdy who is the perfect fit for him, thus Lance was traded. Lance untimely injuries surely didn't help, but ultimately, it was just a bold gamble that backfires.
as a washington fan, watching zach wilson’s meteoric rise feels eerily similar to jayden daniel’s. i’ve been following daniels since he was a HS recruit; prior to this season, the very thought of him going 1st round (let alone #2 overall) was less than nonexistent.
this video perfectly demonstrates why you should never reach for a qb, especially if you have needs everywhere else. i know it’s impossible at this point, but i wish so badly we would just take harrison jr and continue building our team.
Should've kept howell and continue building the o line. Instead yall gave up on him in one season In which he showed a lot of promise
At least he won the Heisman which adds some value and is a much better dual threat than Zach. Saying picking Wilson makes no sense isn’t even a hindsight take, people were confused about it even at the time that he went #2 overall, and said he was the most likely to be a bust.
Do a video on the class before which has 5 Franchise QBs (Burrow,Tua,Herbert, Hurts and Love)
As an NDSU alum, I hope that Trey can grow and eventually get his time in the spotlight
That year for QBs has really showed me how little ANYONE knows about them. The best run NFL system according to some (49ers) drafted Trey Lance. The football savant Bill Bellichek drafted Mac Jones, the can't miss player of the generation Trevor Lawrence has looked average. I was not different because I legit thought every one of these guys would be amazing. I can't pretend to know anything about 2024 draft. For all I know every one of them could be a bust
Bill belichek is officially the most overrated coach. If he didn’t have Brady he’d be a dc. Mac jones and Lawrence were my two top and thought the others were busts. I think both of them will have long careers as starters
@@JJ-zr6fu Jones needs to find his confidence and Jacksonville needs to stop being Jacksonville. I actually think if Lance can end up as a backup again he could still become a starter again provided he doesn't get injured the week after replacing the starter. He has looked the least bad (in a very limited sample size) despite the lack of experience of the the high upside and low floor guys, it's a long way back but I feel like his projection is more interesting than Wilson (solid bust) and Fields (likely Jameis Winston at best just more athletic).
@@JJ-zr6fuTbf Mac jones was good at the beginning also false they needed each other
18:35 KTO basically calling the Bears poverty 💀
He’s not wrong. I say this as a bears fan. The incompetence is absolutely staggering
KTO is a browns fan,i highly doubt he is throwing shade and thinking he has it any better, and you are a packers fan, congratulations on wasting Rodgers career
I mean the Bears are- a depressed Bears fan
@@bryantsteury8910 Are you not paying attention? We are set up to make the playoffs next year if Williams plays well
@StandbySM we would have been set up to make the playoffs if Justin played well and we traded that 1st overall for a buttload of capital like we did last year. Theres zero guarantee Williams will be anything
Every video gets better than the last. Keep it up bro
Best landing spots for Zach Wilson: San Francisco, Green Bay, KC, Denver, and LA Rams. Sit, learn, and get real coaching...
Fr Zach never had help he needs better coaching and a better team
Dont disrespect my boy David Mills who played in a playoff game not like other qb's😤😤😤
Honestly Mills is probably a great back up QB to have
He’s better than every other qb here
Mills’s 4th and 20 Hail Mary changed the fates of four teams.
Once I started this video I got a notification that Zach Wilson got traded to the broncos 😂
I think you give Lawrence benefit of doubt. Was 8-3 before season altering injury. No injury, I bet they end up 12-5
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I agree that he needs more time to be properly evaluated but he was underwhelming compared to his expectations even before the injury.
@@goldenstatewarriors9418 exactly. Bro was hyped up to be the next Brady or sum. He's not even in the top 10 QBs in the league. Maybe not even 15
@@inazumaprimex100he’s 24 and going into his 4th year. He’s been a pretty solid qb given the state of the rest of the team
@@OhMirage i mean he's not Tim Boyle but he's also not Joey B. He's dramatically overpayed. But ig if the team actually gets better next offseason they could be in playoff position next year and maybe win 1 game if they're lucky
Love your video KTO and keep up the great work you are awesome
As I get older I’m excited to see all of the young talent in all of the leagues come out. Even if it’s against my home state Az. Good luck young dudes.
Best football analysis videos of any UA-camr
People also forget that the niners traded three first round picks for Trey Lance 💀 the only reason why people don’t clown on them harder is because they lucked into Brock Purdy
Nah they gave up on Lance on the go
@jUaN-cw2bz uh, wut? They were going to sit him behind Jimmy to develop (at least until week 10 when everyone gets sick of jimmy lol) then when he got a chance he got hurt, then Brock stunned everyone and stole the starting job. You don't need to rock the boat by putting Lance in when you know you already got your guy. It's not like Trey didn't get his chance (practice is a thing) and I trust the 49er coaching staff.
In zach Wilson's defense, he never should have been drafted that high, or at all. The media got caught up in his flashy numbers against basically high-school teams and the jets fell for it
People have been giving Trevor "Sunshine" Lawrence crap but I think he will pull it back together eventually
Trevor was great this year before he got injured- people who watched the jags play know this lol
@@rthraitor Don't blame injuries for how often he was turning it over the last month of the season.
@@LdyVderhis throwing shoulder was hurt along with other injuries. If he can’t pull it together in year 4, then we will know he’s not the guy.
@LdyVder after his 4th high ankle sprain 8th injury to his arm and like 20th concussion with all his team injured lmao
Jacksonville better look at what happened with baker and not make the same mistake
As a Jets fan. The Wilson pick killed me on the inside. I wanted to grab Penei Sewell and give Darnold a final year. The Wilson selection felt like a knife to a heart that I almost gave up on being a Jets fan. I thought he was undraftable.
Also a jets fan. I wanted to trade down from the second pick after we beat the rams and missed out on the first pick.
Sewell has looked better as a co lineman so far
Sam Darnold had already proven that he was a bust as a quarterback. The Jets apparently had had enough of Sam Darnold and wanted to move off of him as soon as possible.
@@johnnymason2460 and yet Zach Wilson was even worse
@@ErikCB912as a jets fan, I've picked up on their formula:
1. Have a bad team (almost always the case we haven't had a winning record since 2015)
2. Draft a good quarterback in the first round instead of building a good foundation (skill positions, defense, etc)
3. Blame the QB when he has to get passes off in 2 tenths of a second when his offensive line is about as strong as Biden's border policies and he has zero help on defense
4. Call the QB a bust and cut him after three seasons
5. Goes to another team and then does better
6. Repeat process
Fields highlight tape is sick
My friend told me in 2021 that Trevor Lawrence would be the only one out of every single QB chosen that year to be successful, when Mac jones was a great QB. Looking back on his comments (he is a fins fan while Im a pats fan), safe to say, he was right.
T law isn’t good he just gets leeway
Early to a KTO vid! Know it’s boutta be fire 🔥🔥🔥
2024 class gonna be the same way
More 2-5 year starters in 2024 than from the 2021 draft class. Penix, Nix, Hartman and Rattler have been starters in college for a while. Lance and Mac Jones only started a year.
It's amazing how good San Fran has been despite giving up so much and whiffing on Lance. If they had gotten pretty much anything out of those picks, they could easily have multiple championships.
The 2021 QB Draft Class was very bad. Except Trevor Lawrence.
He’s the only quarterback who looks like the teams franchise
Even Trevor has been very disappointing. He is somewhere between QB12-QB15 in the league
Even Lawrence hasn’t lived up to number one overall pick expectations
Trevor’s been mid too, definitely disappointing for a #1 pick
For the amount of hype he got he’s definitely been disappointing. He only gets a pass cause the other guys are so horrible
just got my cfa too…perfect timing😎
Lmao “suck for luck” goes so much harder than “tank for Trevor”
Should have made the outro longer I was vibing to the music and highlight of Celeb Williams 😭
the 2021 QB class I feel was almost a law of averages to recover from just how amazing 2020 was lol... Joe Burrow, Tua, Justin Herbert, and Jordan Love is wow
Feels like this draft was just yesterday.
My favorite football channel!
Every team wants to win now. Some good things take time to develop
Thanks again KTO
KTO do 2020 Draft of QB’s please!!! 🙏🏼
Best football content creator
As someone who works over at Levi’s, I got to see what happened to Lance first hand. Can’t really blame him honestly but the worst thing that could happen to him was a better and ready QB
You know Lawrence is good when his team crashes the moment he gets slightly injured. He took the worst team at the time to a playoff. He didn't take a stacked Niners or stacked Eagles team to a playoff.
KTO is the 🐐
The Bears gave up on Fields to early, they didn't even build that much around him
He should do the 2020 QB class
Zach Wilson was traded to the Broncos for 2 7's yesterday
A week later and Wilson to the broncos. I figured they'd draft nix but whatever 😂
they did
i just feel like trevor’s bound to have a generational season. this year or next year, it feels like he’s gonna have a 5k, 45+ touchdown mvp season. idk why.
8:03 well shit, by all means, get the bust and gold jacket ready because of some throw in a drill 🙄😳
Shoutout to the Patriots (or Steve Sarkesian lets be honest) for speedrunning Mac Jones development only to then speedrun destroying said development
0:25 It was the latter. You really don’t have to watch the rest of the video beyond this point😂, but the explanation of how it became this way is very interesting.
Feilds has the potential to fix up his mistakes at Pittsburgh. He was considered bad because he was on the BEARS.
Da Bears
Also Go Steelers
Nah. Fields is just not a good QB.
@@jeremeyunger6568 He is. Bears are not a good organization
@@plaguedoctor5889 If he's good, then why did nobody in the league want to trade for him?
As a Pats fan watching this makes me want Marvin Harrison Jr.
As a pats fan I agree they screwed up giving Mac nothing and blaming him they should get Marvin and beef up the line
I think the quarterbacks in this class is a prime example of why you need to make sure you know the situation your quarterback is going to be in and why it’s important to build around him.
Mac jones
I don’t know a thing about football but I find these videos interesting 😂 I literally couldn’t name you 4 nfl teams
3:45 mad seeing that lad wearing a Leinster jersey 😂
This year is the reason why I don’t by the hype around 4 straight qbs taken this year
Yall do every draft class besides 2020 😂😂😂😂
When your arguments begin with “Mel Kieper” it’s not the flex you think it is
Mac Jones is the best quarterback ever drafted
Oh yes, a perfect video for my drive home
2024 has broken the record with 6 QBs in the first 12 picks! I look forward to the “Looking back at the 2024 QB class” in a few years
Forgot Lawrence was only drafted 3 years ago, feels like hes been in the NFL for 5+ years. Hes struggling at the moment, I still have faith, somewhat
I think you could draw some parallels to what happened to Baker Mayfield with his injury, and Trevor Lawrence. Moreover, you could also draw that parallel between Lawrence and Peyton Manning, one of the other more highly touted prospects at the position, and his early career off/on struggles. I think if you give up on him you could end up regretting it, and that he could develop into the prospect fans expected him to be.
Ngl Trey Lance isn’t a complete Bust he was playing decent and was still developing but then got injured and Brock came in
Not really a bust more just a weird situation
He's a bust. They saw so little from him in practice that they got rid of him for a 4th.
Fields was a guy I loved to watch in college but I had a feeling his game just wouldn't translate consistently to the pros. He was way too reliant on his legs.
My buddies and I stopped watching the Jags-Chargers wild card game after the first half... we had no idea what happened until the game was over and somebody checked their twitter
I would put Trevor Lawrence in the Lamelo Ball category. Unbelievable hype coming out, haven’t lived up to it but still performing well.
I hope lance gets some more chances i still believe in him
12:09 Youngstown made it to the FCS championship a few years back - put some respect on the GUINS 🐧🐧
I always said Lawrence was a fine prospect and probably QB1 of his class but generational my ass. So glad my take aged well
I’m extremely nervous about who the commanders will pick at 2 and I really hope he isn’t bad
please respect Davis “Money” Mills
Trey Lance may have gotten screwed over by being selected that early in the draft
Project qb
@@jUaN-cw2bzyou can't be a project qb if you're drafted in the top of the first round. You're a bust if you're a "project".
I totally agree. He could be good, but he should've been a 2nd rounder sitting for 2 years behind a veteran
@@Generic_Name_1-1 you make no sense
browns fan to browns fan karsten i cannot wait for the joe flacco cleveland run video
Majority of these guys wound up as 6th round trade picks.😐
Watching Jets fan turn on Zack wilson was so therapeutic
Wow. Trevor Lawrence is really the only one who’s worked out. He went backwards a bit in 2023 but I think he’ll turn it around. He’s such a good passer he has to.
This is going to get some heat, but I think the 2 QBs who will succeed the most will be Bo Nix & JJ McCarthy.
Imma say this a few weeks before he draft - Penix, Caleb, Nix, and McCarthy will all be solid as long as they’re healthy
Trevor Lawrence is the average QB so far, but he is the only one who might have the contract extension among 2021 QB class. I am not sure whether Trevor Lawrence can be with Jaguars after 2026.
do a video on the 2020 qbs
Of these guys, Wilson seems like the one true bust who will never turn into much of anything. Lawrence I suspect will turn into a top 10 guy year in and year out, but perhaps not "generational". I think Trey Lance's bad luck with injuries means the jury is still out on him and maybe he appears as a starter in 4 years. Impossible to say. Fields just has to learn how to finish games without dumb mistakes. Jones probably will be one of those guys who starts here and there and stays in the league 15 years without being remarkable.
Solid take
I still can't believe the Jaguars thought Ubran Meyer was gonna help the franchise
And Zach just got traded to the Broncos
This upcoming season is make or break for Trevor Lawrence, and as a Jags fan I am probably going to just go ahead and get on anxiety meds
We love you mac! I'm sorry we failed you 😭
Facts he’s not at fault and should have at least been given a starting chance like darnold and geno and other QBs got
Problem is most of these guys need to sit for a full year before coming in ever. College game is so different now it takes time for a guy to adjust. That’s why I don’t think Caleb Williams will be as good if he starts from the get go.
KTO, I can safely say that the 2021 NFL QB Draft Class is officially the 3rd worst QB Draft class behind the 2007 and 2013 ones.
I mean I know it doesn't matter since we have Purdy now but I definitely feel like Mac Jones would've been a star with the 49ers instead of being ruined by the Patriots.
watching this makes me feel blessed as a chargers fan which is fuckin wild. Makes me appreciate daddy herbgod that much more.