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Fell off guys
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Is this comment a twitch comment rip off?
Cap
What did you fall off?
guys fell off so guys could stumble
"You're just a cheap fuckin' knockoff."
"No... I'm the upgrade."
this is like when terminator comes true
Homelander said calmly
Emiya Shirou: There's no rule that the copy can't surpass the original.
everyone who has played both games knows stumble guys is the upgrade, just clueless youtubers like asmon and whoever he is reacting to that dont know it
merica prizes its sellf for the free traid and open market or what ever.XD untill someone does it them self without getting shut down and does it better
As soon as he said Epic Store, that was it. Explanation over
How can you compare the steam number against a game that is no longer on steam.
@@REMME1998 Nobody uses epic store lmao
@@REMME1998 nobody fucking plays on epic game
@@akooma3694 People actually do, but nowhere near as many as steam.
@@REMME1998epic games has other games than fortnite?
Fall Guys was big because it launched during COVID, but they never really introduced big gameplay changing maps or mechanics. Nail in the coffin was that all the cool outfits (the whole thing the game is about) became stingingly more expensive and not winnable by just playing the game. Every collab involved paid skins, and no earnable skins were added during some of those collabs.
no wonder it fell off. All they had to do was make new content like levels and gamemodes, let people grind for some unlockable skins, have some events every now and then, and the game would be relevant forever.
I thought it was free the whole time and they made money from skins but it was paid and they were monetizing like that on top of it?
The other side of the collab, the version you play in FF14, is amazing though, and all the stuff you get from it is easy to farm because you get a decent repeated amount of the currency for it even when you lose. It also legitimately makes players better at the game by cleverly reusing boss mechanics
How in any shape or form was the game about the outfits lol
fall guys didnt need to do anything but get on mobile and market their game , but they decided to sell out to epic and ruin everything. its that simple
Fall guys isn't on mobile. The mobile gaming market has a bigger audience.
But Steam just counts Steam players.
Elden Ring for Mobile port when.
@@BanXxX69 ^^^
@@BanXxX69 steam stats don't bring much when the game is not on steam
People already playing on mobile would also play the same game on steam.. It doesn't take much to put 2 and 2 together
I used to play Fall Guys every day, with a few breaks here and there, since release but the last year the devs effectively killed it. First they removed a lot of the great original maps in favour of community made maps. Then a few months ago they removed all original maps and game modes and left only community made maps and modes. The game is nothing like the one I purchased and absolutely sucks now.
happens to all live games, they remove content you paid for, not able to play it like it was released, destiny 2 is best example, you will own nothing and be happy. no i will download pirate with server
It's puzzling how Stumble Guys, a game that the audience knew was a near replica of Fall Guys, managed to avoid the same level of criticism for being a copy. Meanwhile, Palworld was relentlessly attacked for being a Pokemon knockoff, with critics scrutinizing every detail, from character models to the game's originality, ultimately branding it as an asset flip.
I don't get how the gaming community thinks anymore.
Its the same thing as the "xbox tax", people will defend anything Nintendo, doesn't matter who is against them
That's easy.I didn't even know stumble guys existed until right now.
"relentlessly attacked"
No it wasn't. I'd go to pal world videos - POKEMON FANS ARE ATTACKING US! And 0 pokemon fans attacking
Go to Pokemon videos and they were discussing Pokemon, and pal world people attacking them.
That narrative was totally invented by UA-camrs and kept up by pal world players
Easy to explain. Nintentards Is the answer
@guy above
Except $50 20 years ago is different than $20 split 4 ways 20 years later after mass inflation.
Yet it's okay when Xbox and PlayStation charge 50 but cry when Nintendo charges less than 20. It's Nintendo derangement syndrome
In the defense of fall guys, it is primarily played by people on epic games launcher and on console.
exactly my thought, whole premise is wrong if we look at it like that.
also stumble guys is 80% of bots
takes forever to find a game anyways lol
You cannot even buy the game on steam anymore so to show only steam playercount is stupid. Of course you cannot actually show the playercount for anything other than steam but I'm sure fall guys has more players than 5k.
You actually can't even buy Fall Guys on Steam for the past two or three years since it got acquired by Epic. So, not that I care all that much, but this is an uninformed video
The Diablo Immortal guy was right all along. The guys actually had phones...
Yeah it also turned out that Diablo immortal itself was a success. People do have phones lol
this game is huge around kids , its mobile , free , alot of colabs with other games cartoons and stuff , they even got toys figures
It looks like Roblox too
@@Binchilling575 Kids are their audiences
It must be. I gave it a go after watching this video and I've got the crown about 90% of the time. Either I got real good real fast or the players are kids.
I think the main reason they winning is that they made the game available on literally everything, every platform and its free. My nephew wanted to play it with me but he plays on ipad I dont have ipad, and my niece plays with him on her moms android phone. I didn't want to install it on my phone so I tried through Steam thinking it probably wont work but nope no issues at all, 3 of us were able to team up and play together.
Pointless to compare steam player counts when it hasn't been on steam for 2 years
if its on epic you can be 100% sure it has way lower players
@@LucifeRxGoSuon the platform that hosts Fortnite, we can be sure that a cute kiddy game has less players than on a platform it’s unavailable on?
@@Chunnibyoubakaand why would any fortnite kids play fallguys?
Because kids
@@ChunnibyoubakaAre you implying that epic games has anywhere close to the amount of users steam has? Epic games hosts one popular game. Steam hosts all of them. Also just sayin, steam currently has 6m players in game right now with 22m online and Fortnite has 1.5m
stumble guys actually does updates and adds new maps, i remember fall guys had to wait multiple years before they even changed the maps and they removed most of them lmao, also like every1 has a phone and can play stumble guys
you clearly havent played in a year or more. there's creation kits, custom levels and events and like 400 games now/ lol
The devs just didn't really capitalize on their game enough and people got bored of it quickly
Too late even if It had good updates later
Fall Guys got outcompeted.
@@TemmiePlaystoo little too late
I’m l
Fall guys literally fell...
Bidened
Only reason for their fall is they were not in Google play store. Even I play stumble guys 😅
@@Leo-rd7dt fg is coming to mobile.
Stumble Guys also stumbled.
They went heavy monetization and stopped adding new levels
They didn't just stop adding levels, they took out all the best ones and left only community levels.
Used to play this as a family, my 5yo loved it. They completely ruined it in the last patch, we haven't touched it in months. Pretty sad.
This is what happened with Fortnite too. PUGB was huge, Fortnite added a Battle Royale mode to their free-to-play third person shooter tower defense game, it overtook the non-free-to-play PUGB pretty much overnight.
The original tower defense side of Fortnite isn't even free. I believe it's still $40 to this day.
Free fire
@@Schmosephit doesn’t exist anymore. They removed it
@@HahahMamaman No, it looks like Save the World is still available for purchase.
Both PUBG and Fall Guys died due to the lack of banning cheaters from the devs. There is no point in playing a game where you can't win 🤷♂️
You cannot copyright a genre and if you sell you soul to epic its your fault that this happened to you
They've got the Epic money, and Epic gained a dead game, I think it's a win-win.
This is literally Oreos all over again, but with video games. Oreos are milks favorite cookie even though they weren't the original and they were apparently worse they just had a marketing god on their side and managed to sell their oreos better than the original. Its insane.
Except hydrox cookies are dog shit. Yeah
@criticalmass7841 but were they back when they first came out hundred years ago they can then improve with higher profits over the next hundred years they already won.
I'm not even sure Stumble Guys is a worse game other than visuals. Seems like they're actually updating and adding new content and things to be excited for.
Just a hunch but I think one reason why Oreos became popular is because the name "Hydrox" sounds like a cleaning detergent.
Fall Guys is still the better game too
Their marketing wizard said, "I bet I can get you more players than the original game and I can even do it with a terrible game title" And they were like, "no way, prove it." And he was like "eh, i dunno." And they were like "what are you, chicken?"
One is an Epic selloff that betrays Steam buyers, while the other is Steam free to play.
feels bad for all the kids that played fall guys but never gmod death run
Gmod servers back in the day is peak gaming
I think it's simple
Stumble:
-Is on steam
-Has collabs
-Has always been free
-On mobile
-Is sponsored on youtube
-Quick match times
-More varied maps and gameplay
Fall:
-Made people pay money to play a free to play game
-The beans aren't as appealing to look at
-Has weird color stuff going on over outfits
-When transfering to epic games they erased my items from steam(personal)
-Recycles maps over and over
"Made people pay money to play a free to play game" it literally wasnt a ftp game then.
Also i believe they had emotes, the sole p2w perspective lol
So fall guys is on steam, it has better collabs, is now free on every console except mobile but coming soon to mobile, is sponsored on fortnite by epic themselves, has creative maps which is a variated way to play
@@drcableusb after having played stumble I gotta say though that stumble guys gave me a skeletal pirate skin immediately where as fall guys has only given me a weird color palette for my character. That to me signifies that stumble guys is willing to keep it's fans closer.
@@akshatghoshal6098 I lost money buying fall guys for them to turn around and make it a worse game that is free to play. It's the overwatch effect.
Epic Games has the Reverse Touch of Midas: Everything that it gold that they touches turns immediately into sh*t.
Because epic can never win since it wasn't an early mover. Imagine being first to market and decades of momentum on your side. That is steam. It might be the worst kind of monopoly too because everybody has a huge digital library and so they are incentivized to hate any new competition, and they are biased against any new market. Personal investment is a hell of a motivator.
@@burrybondz225
Or also the fact that steam is just simply better in every way possible for the user.
Epic games runs like trash no matter how strong your PC is, you can't change your pfp or personalize your profile page, there are no achivements, no user reviews, no community pages, no mods, steam also has the better customer support etc.
Epic barely has anything, and it's made by a corporation that is known for using exclusivity deals to compete instead of actually making their storefront better.
@@YTDani75 you misunderstand my point because I haven't articulated myself well. Epic can never win, steam can only lose its position.
@@YTDani75 Again epic offers good game for free and extremely friendly dev deals but it will never make a dent in the market because being both the storefront and storage for a digital library is huuuge.
@@YTDani75 If you used steam for a few years then your library is probably in the triple digits. Their cumulative value is a measure of how much you have invested in steam, consequently it is also a measure to how much you won't want to see epic pop off.
Now also available for free on PlayStation, Xbox and soon Switch 💅😘
so rel cap bara
omg it the cap bara
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@@Bloxthecool 🤯🤯🤯
I dont want to hear anyone complaining about assetflips or carbon copies ever again 😂
I'm just waiting till someone launches the Asmonsilver UA-cam channel that is 10 times more popular than Asmongold ;D
@@Reelix Asmonbronze
Looking for some devs to help me make Tripping Dudes
Witness the sheer power of mobile
This is similar to how Oreo is the knockoff brand of Hydrox cookies.
Hydrox sounds like cleaning supplies...
@NostraDavid2 Yeah! Hydrox as a brand name itself alone said alot about its fate
I lost interest in Fall Guy's when they removed usernames from the game.
Uh? you can see other players' username by pressing the Tab key. On a PC at least
You can still see usernames though.
@@claclaclac1 yeah but it used to have fixed names for ever player. Like, my name was hippierhino and i couldnt change this. The first time this was annoying but after a while it become funny and they just removed it for no reason. Now the nickname that appears is your epic games nickname
Fall Guys was way too expensive for being so simple. If they made it free then no one would know because it's on the (soon to be closed) Epic launcher and no one went back to look at it again
I thought fall guys was free? I got it for free atleast
@@VetriVade You'd be right.
It's been free for ages
@@mahinkhan3708 Going free AFTER the fumble doesn't give any recovery. Heroes of Newerth was THE Moba during beta, along with LoL and Dota2. They put a $30 price tag on it on release and lost majority of its player base. They went Free-to-play a couple years later but the other Big 2 already took their stride.
Yeah I was like they said it was going free the devs did i think the devs even advertise it as free.
"It's like somebody steals your skin and is wearing it, and everyone likes them better than you."
I heard that and immediately thought he'd been listening to 'From First to Last'.
Why are they looking at steam charts?? It’s epic game store exclusive now.
bc otherwisae you cant say the game is dead, despite the 3mil + instal base activbedly playing and creating new levels lol
Because if you had the game in your account, you can still play it through Steam, so the players shown in the video are only steam players, not overall pc players.
Yeah, and plus console players and the pøayer base will be huge. FG has full crossplay @@MrGalidor
3mil
@@MrGalidor but you got stuff for moving to epic - including being able to purechase DLC and stuff.
you can luanch from steam, but it opens epic games launcher. thats the couple thousand peoeple left onm steam itself. the game does pretty god on consoles being free and all.
Using steam to see the active players is wild
1:50 yeah watch the other socials lmfao
Fall Guys in now available with good physics and without pay to win on PlayStation, Xbox, PC, Nintendo and soon mobile. 💅😘
Mobile is never coming stop the cap
@@smirg2975 sure buddy just wait
@@smirg2975yes it is pal. There’s already a bunch of leaks it’s probably still being worked on
@@smirg2975 I agree, all the in game files and leakers are lying and wrong about everything
It has been leaked a while ago .@@smirg2975
Epic also pissed off people by turning their earned in game stuff worthless when they transitioned to f2p by introducing new monetisation.
ahh makes sense
I got it free on ps+ so I didn't pay but I got some free stuff for owning it already when it became f2p. They did convert all the crowns in my inventory to a pile of kudo's though (which are mostly useless now). There are still the exclusive skins you can get only by playing though
Fall Guys becoming Epic Store exclusive was like Ninja moving to Mixer 😂
honestly i think ninja madr the right move. He cashed in when he could.
Man the bots are fast, huh
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@@KuraVixen i am bender pls Insert data 😆
Fall Guys lost its popularity cause they removed the game from Steam.
If it's not on Steam it's usually not played by anyone.
Fall guys "explorer mode" is where it's at. Some maps take mad skill to beat and I'm all for that.
I tried stumble guys 1 year ago. First thing i noticed is the huge variety of gamemodes. They had a fps team deathmatch gamemode. I don't think fall guys can compete with the amount of content stumble guys gets every month. Add to that the fact that stumble guys is on mobile and its not even close.
In Fall Guys, you just run and hope to win. In Stumble Guys, there are attack emotes that give you the option to play with tactics. Its way more fun to punch someone off a ledge while trying to not get punched, yourself. One guy grabbed me and pushed me off the platform the other day. Another guy threw down a briefcase of money that ended up being like an oil slick.
Attack emotes are battle pass exclusive tho so its literally p2w
@@amohogride3739 I never bought any season pass and I have the punch emote.
@@jabloneynophony1875 Yeah, it doesn't matter if you get the punch for free but if you can pay to get the ability and have an advantage over other players. that's a paytowin
@@amohogride3739 They are not battle pass exclusive anymore.
This reminds me of the Oreo cookies being an actual knockoff from Hydrox and also overtaking them...
The "Forever Update" for Fall Guys was the most sabotaging change I've ever seen in a video game. Broke physics, broke maps, broke gamemodes, everything that was fun got removed.
I also thought this was weird until I heard epic exclusive and then it all made sense
It’s mostly because of the mobile audience. Specially since it’s such a “minigame” that it doesn’t make sense turning on your pc or your PlayStation just to play it. It’s one of those games that is cool to play during a lunch break or when going to the bathroom
This is some Hydrox vs Oreo energy.
So... Fall Guys is exclusive to Epic Games Store, meanwhile Stumble Guys is playable on PC and Mobile, and has more collab events...
Guys... I think Fall Guys developers aren't even trying.
One game updates frequently, the other rarely.
As someone who's played Fall Guys since the beta and has over 7500+ crowns, the game has fallen off hard. Buddies i've played with for years no longer play it as much as they did. Fall Guys also removed almost half of the levels in the game and most variations from existing levels. They also reduced the player count from 60 to 30. Terrible decision making all around.
SG’s best feature compared to FG is much shorter waiting time between matches
easier to find matches with bots in the game
@@turkeyeater5206 If that's what's going on, then why don't FallGuys add bots?
The amount of collabs also don't speak well of FG.
I have a friend who used to constantly play FG, but it was pretty easy to tell how the game stopped being updated by adding new content.
While Stumble Guys just keeps adding new content and having tons of collabs.
FallGuys cope can only get you so far.
I feel like fall guys didn't care about updating it or adding more stuff.
They literally did.
This is another case of how going free-to-play is very viable in the long run. I use to play a Moba called Heroes of Newerth. It was a lot more popular during beta compared to League of Legends and Dota2's beta. Release time comes and they put a whopping $30 price tag, player base dropped significantly. The other two major Moba games were free and the rest was history.
Ah yes, HoN. May they rest in peace.
The decision to goes free to play is too late to take. LoL have took the MOBA initiative, and DotA2 instantly reap the OG DotA players.
Yeah, in online games, ecosystem need to be build first and F2P is a great tool to do that.
@@VictoriaVoltia What made it worse is that they knew the majority of their player base is in Asia AND they want to sell skins on the top of the price tag (MMORPGs are mostly F2P so the concept is not absurd).
dota2s beta was WAY more popular, but HoN was only bigger than Leagues beta because HoN was handing out codes like candy as a marketing tactic and Riot forced a more closed beta.
@@LucifeRxGoSu No, HoN was way bigger during beta, it got surpassed by Dota2 after HoN was release with a price tag, players then flocked to Dota2 around mid 2010. HoN was dominating from 2009-2010. Dota2 beta was so popular they had to rerelease HoN as F2P in 2011 but it was too late.
one you take over the market your not the knock off anymore
*You're the better version*
Lmao I literally thought this was a official sequel.
Yeah, Epic acquired them, removed the game from Steam, fired a bunch of people, and they basically haven't added anything new besides the battle passes in a long while.
It has plenty of variety in skins and collabs though. They even did a FF14 one
Fall guys isn't on steam anymore, anyone using steam statistics to show how many people are playing it, is lying.
I think it's because of how slow MediaTonic has been to updating the game. It has less content and has some bugs that have been slow for them to resolve. After Creative Came out we got even less verity in terms of themed levels created by the official devs. Jungle, Space and Ocean some of the last notable themed updates they had and that was well over a year ago now. What do we get now?
A slow drip of updates to Creative Mode, somewhat lackluster outfit additions and just more creative rounds that mostly all look the same. There's some stand outs but it definitely has felt stale for awhile now. Not being on Mobile isn't really helping either. :P
they sold out to epic, game fell off, surprsied pikachu
Regardless of its popularity, fall Guys is still better.The only explanation for the Stumble Guys phenomenon is that they are on mobile devices where a lot of people play The Fall Guys player base is larger than you think. Finding a match with full players is a matter of a few seconds, and the unique player counter on creative maps often shows around 100,000 players.A game doesn't have to be popular to be alive. What matters is the playerbase and its quality.
The mobile game market is massive because everyone littrally has a mobile kids and adults have tablets and mobiles. Not everyone has consoles or pc so it's a no brainer it got a lot bigger than fall guys and everyone wants to sponsor it
It's because people are underestimating how big mobile market is. Yes it's shitty and full of microtransactions but its big
i thought this was rumble club for a sec
Rumble club tanked
God that game was terrible
only thing worse than an epic game is a mad mushroom game apparently LMFAO
10:00 "They made a copy of the original game, and they added gacha mechanics to it and it's seven times more popular than the original game"
Sounds like genshin to me
You were able to get lots of cosmetics just by playing it, now it is heavily monetized and you can only get like shoes or random hats by playing unless you pay $$$$ D:
Make a shitty WoW classic clone and make it free
i mean, that's most private servers
Turtle wow
How come I've only heard about this game now
This is like when you tell a joke to only your friend to test it and then your friend says it.
That makes perfect sense now. Fall Guys: sold their soul to Epic games, not available on Playstore. Stumble guys: cheap Gameloft knockoff, can be played on smartphone.
fall guys didn't need an epic login when I got it. I'm not making an epic account to play a game that didn't need it at the point of purchase.
I made an account to login in Fall Guys, but it asks me to login every fucking time I start the game
@@anonymous4068 That's Epic for you. Not even Uplay and Origin does this.
I mean stumble guys def has more players overall if you count mobile but comparing steam numbers is a bit disingenuous since you literally cant get fall guys on steam anymore so the only players it can track is the ones that bought it and still play it to this day on steam
This is a accessibility issue. Fall guy which could easily run on mobile. Decided not to but stumble guy is on mobile which is a big portion of the gaming industry
Fall guys is coming to mobile, likely this year.
@@StubbIeGuys the sooner they come the better
wasn't one of the available levels (at least in single player) just straight up, Only Up?
Stumble guys does let you know what you are getting. Truth in advertising.
Fall Guys vaulted most of their maps and for years you only played like 15-20 maps. Only like last year they included player made maps.
Ppl forget in stumble guys u can punch kick and grab which makes it fun
Its pretty stupid to compare steam graphs when fall guys isnt even available on steam anymore
Keep in mind d that most players moved to epic since the game is delisted from steam
Looks like fall guys is falling…
On?
Wow, such an original joke. Someone should give this man a reward. 🙄
I should have used stumbling… 😂
"how is this happening?"
Children with phones are the most powerful demographic
This is the new classroom pubg that all the kids are playing
Fall guys aint available on steam
the players you see bought the game .... fall guys is on epic games
exactly, show the epic number, i dont think they are ven close
those are just the steam players lol. which most ppl decided toi just move to epic and call it a day. these " X game is dead " videois are literally the dumbest thing
@@TemmiePlays also if I recall, it was or is free in epic, I agree with what you said on the format. He either did no research or purposely left this out
Shocking, a game that hasnt been on steam for over 2 years isnt as popular when looking at steam stats...smh
The reason why there isn't a lawsuit is because Fall Guys didn't spend resources on claiming copyright on other clones before Stumble Guys - By copyright law that means you have proven that you waive the right to enforce your copyright - Stumble Guys can therefore claim that Fall Guys would be specifically just targeting them for no reason.
Same thing with patents: Because you are obligated to disclose the secret information about what you are patenting, so people know what not to copy, the general recommendation is that you should never apply for a patent unless you have the money to carry out the lawsuits and win.
Looks like these guys stumbled into some success
is he using Steam Spy to tewll the polayer count of the game tha was BOUGHT BY EPIC? The dang thing only exists as a shell on steam, and only to those that were there befoire epic bought them. Fall guys has milions of players. this guy is a stooge. also stumble guys is on mobile too, and has pay toi win
one of the biggest reasons for Stuble guys is winning is because its on mobile that's a huge market, I mean ios and android alone have a shit ton of gamers on them if fall guys goes mobile and free I'm sure they will be back on top but then again I'm not a dev
It's almost like a casual game being on mobile is a good idea. Rip Fell Off Guys😂
i was one of the early player of stumble guys and the biggest reason for its success is the community it made, they organized esports like a week after the release, people only stopped playing it when the developers got greedy and made the game pay to win. They introduced this punch emote which you could buy and it actually punched people, it was completely broken so a lot of players left.
Now let's ask Paul Allen what place he finished in
how tf is this happening and i never ever heard about Stumble Guys until now
"THIS IS INSANE!" Fortnight says hello.
This is literally wild rift vs mobile legends 😂
I'm surprised no one has picked up on the fact that the game became free-to-play and moved to Epic Games, and the online shows up in SteamDB where people bought the game on Steam, so I'm not surprised that there's less online on Steam than Stumble Guys. So I don't see how you can make such statements when we don't know how much online Epic Games has, when there are likely more players there than in Steam.
If they make an Asmongold skin in Stumble guys I promise I'll buy it.
Zack, here is your economic incentive to do a collaboration with them.
It's only the playerbase in steam that's why Fall Guys has less people. Number should be higher on Epic since it's not available in the steam store.
the thing is easy access, dont everyone got mobile phone as Blizzard guy said
about time game developers land a few solid shots in their own feet from making their game without considering availability on mobile
I think Stumble had one feature that you could punch other players and had emotes wich made it more popular.
No shit a game that didn't have any updates and got removed off the best platform for games fell off like its namesake
As a 26 yo playing this from time to time there are a lot of reasons tbh. A reason its the mechanics, the game has skills/spells that can influence the game to each personal playstyle which now can be obtain by everyone for free as long as you are decent at the game. A second reason could be the jump, on stumble guys the control its so much better over the character, like leagues above, its so precise its not just for fun, its gives that feeling of being competitive better. Another reason is skins, you can literally get any skin in the game you truly want as long as you grind for it which from what I've seen in fall guys its just not a thing there, btw skins are so much better in stumble guys not even close. The game its pretty inovative there are some mods like the nerf collaboration that turned the game literally in shooter, its just not close in game quality. This is beyond the 'on steam or not on steam' the game its just that much better.