Me and my sister were walking with my mother when we were kids and she was catcalled, immediately after she told us never to scream back bc they might get angry and hurt us, I've never forgotten that, the fact she even had to teach primary school kids that is scary, catcalling, whistling etc doesn't just make someone uncomfortable, it can scare them and make them feel unsafe and like they aren't human, it's 100% harrasment
Yep. Women aren’t *allowed* to have boundaries, women aren’t *allowed* to say no, because if they do, they could be in very serious danger. And society just feeds into the idea that that’s somehow okay.
Happened to my mom, my sister, and I as well. Except she wasn’t the only one getting catcalled, my sister and I were as well. She was in fifth grade and I was a sophomore in high school. They were grown men in a car. We went out without my brother and just had a nice meal at a restaurant. It soured our evening.
That happened to my mom too, she was walking us home from elementary school and a bunch of college frat boys whistled at her and called her 'baby mama' and other vile shit
Andrew Tate is Onision in a timeline where he was actually successful. Same message, same concerning behaviors, Andrew just isn’t screeching and covering himself in kombucha
There’s a heck of a lot of problems in the world that could be solved by parents restricting or even just keeping an eye on what their kids do on the internet. When I was at prime ‘getting traumatised by stuff on the Internet’ age, I had to use UA-cam Kids, and you know what? I absolutely hated it, with a passion. But you know what else? I reached teenage years without even being aware of any kids fandom gore, the elsagate stuff, I managed to duck it all since I wasn’t allowed on the part of the platform where that was taking place. In short, keep an eye on your kids’ internet access, because while they may not appreciate it at the time they sure as heck will 5-10 years down the line.
@@AmberMaytionsOh absolutely, my mom gave me her old laptop when I was 7-8 years old with 0 restrictions and no supervision. I seriously don't know what she thought she was doing, how I avoided most of the horrors of the internet is beyond me.
I have seen teachers talk about the twelve year old boys in their class being violently disrespectful towards the girls in their classes and then start talking about how great Andrew Tate is. Maybe it’s not affecting his older fan base as much but those young boys who are following him are becoming violent hateful people and are going to get a harsh wake-up call if they continue this behavior when they end up in jail or getting seriously injured.
That’s exactly what I’m worried about. Kids are so impressionable and don’t have enough reasoning skills to fully realize this guy is not a good influence. But yes, let’s keep laughing at the things he says (apparently people think he’s funny). It’s a very manipulative game he’s playing.
There exists a TikTok of a teacher who addressed the very same issue. In the class where she teaches she said one of her pupils, a 13 years old boy was making fun of his classmate who had gained weight and called her "fat", and said "women shouldnt be fat". basically under almost the same tones as Tate. it is really worrying how much impact this person has in the younger generation
Interesting point. This reminds me of when I was a 12yo little girl and Andrew Dice Clay was hugely popular (ouch, I'm dating myself here!). The boys in my class worshipped Clay, quoted all his misogynistic jokes, and taunted the girls with sexual innuendoes. At least ADC was just a caricature... But this Tate guy's caricature has become his life. It won't end well.
It's so frustrating because it's a frustrating thing to see happen. In a year that we should be moving forward we still have P.O.S. like Andrew Tate holding us so far back. Well said though. "Please. Just get a fucking grip." Thank you for the video.
As a romanian,the fact that this horrible man moved into the country i live and have lived in for my whole life just because our police is far more corrupt and likely to ignore these sexual assault charges,absolutely breaks my heart and i hope he gets arrested as soon as possible.
I hope the government there does change their laws just for him, laws only for him to follow. Anyway, how is the place. Even though douchebag is there. I always wanted to see where my great grandparents lived
@@kalishiva18 In my opinion,Romania is a beautiful country,but the people are very close minded. Not all,but you get my point. Also the government is fucked and horribly corrupt
So a horrible guy moves to a country that horrible? Sounds like your country would be the same with or without him. Since the police are so corrupt, I can only imagine what’s happening there.
Do you think Tate bragging about living there because of the corruption and then getting raided might help in a conviction?. He seems like such an idiot to tell people he can bribe his way out of things. I would think he would want to keep that on the down low and so would the police there.
My brother tried to show me a clip of Andrew Tate talking about the roles women should play, and then tried to laugh it off that he was joking. He was so upset when I said that he had the privilege of laughing at jokes about women being in the kitchen or assaulting women because he doesn't have to live in that world every single day. He was really defensive about men's mental health (I'm a mental healthcare work btw) and how women just get to hate men in general, and I was like "Well, yeah, because every woman you know probably has been sexually harassed or worse. When it's some men and more men not standing up to those men, it becomes all men and women have to be scared overall until they feels safe with certain men." My brother is also sharing these thoughts with out baby brothers and I'm so scared.
My wife was over a "close" male friends house when she was a late teen. He drugged her and then raped her. How would she accept any responsibility for that? Should females not have any male friends? Should they not eat or drink anything at a the home of a male even if they have known them for years? Crazy pov on that from Tate.
Very crazy indeed. She's known this person for years. Only he was responsible for those actions. And it has nothing to do with the kind of friends that somebody chooses to keep regardless of gender.
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but you don't wonder the kardashians exist and they get to talk their toxic femininity which you have girls and women doing plastic surgeries to look like them and strive for their lifestyle
@@lawmanbirdwhat’s it called when you have too much confidence, and are around too many ppl? I’d call that a “tate” lol. It also break the brain, make you basically turn into the type of person Andrew tate is.
As a woman who was almost killed by a guy with these type of beliefs and delusions. It scares me and I still haven't recovered even 2 years later. It affected me to the point I hardly leave my own house and fight suicidal ideations due to thinking its my own fault what happened to me happened.
You’re not at fault don’t worry men like that are disgusting and you had no fault in that happened if you need to talk there’s always someone to listen I’m here for you too
Im so sorry you had to go through that! I've been sa'ed and have thought for years that it was my fault. One day the anger will overwhelm the fear and then healing can happen. Stay strong ❤️
@@xxx_mouiz_xxx___7969 Do you know her? Did you see what she went through? No? Then stfu! If you think she is at fault even one bit, you are defending or justifying SA and you are no better than the person who did it to her!
my mother in about 1990 was told while a student in college by her coach (male) "if you want to stop being harassed then just spread your legs" i've never been more angry in my goddamn life. she said it made her super uncomfortable to talk to anyone about the issues of these men frying shit and leaving it in her kitchen and leaving their trash tilted on her and her roommates door, letting it fall all over their kitchen floor. i'm happy that she now works to make sure no one in my school/college have to deal with that
As a woman I find Andrew so inspiring. As a female writer that is, currently writing the most unhinged pos male character I've ever written. Some sht he's said.... I had to take notes ngl 👀 was "here for research" valid then ? 👀
Absolutely a valid reason. If I wanted to write a horrible dictator, reading mein kampf would be a good research method to get the mindset right. Research is a valid reason most of the time.
The problem with the whole catcalling thing is that the guys that do it are much more likely to do other harassing things that are a threat to a woman’s personal safety. It’s not the whistling itself, it signifies a mindset that is rightly perceived as dangerous at night, alone, as a woman.
it’s also just the fact that women and femme presenting people generally just can’t go out in public doing normal ass things without being made to feel uncomfortable. literally was walking my dog today and had a guy who was with his dog and a child tell me he wanted to go home with me 🙃 like that just ruins my mood and makes me feel super uncomfortable.
So, I'm a trans guy who transitioned as an adult. I've been cat called before. I was 14, in my school uniform, wearing my backpack, and alone on the sidewalk. It was terrifying. It stuck with me. I'll never do that to someone.
It's cat calling and following around/to your car even in broad daylight in front of people. It's refusing to leave them alone after they already told you to stop. It's creating multiple accounts on social media to find and message you even when you block them. It's "he's only picking on you because he likes you." It's not cute, it's not quirky, it isn't innocent. If you let your buddies do this shit, you need to re-evaluate and either get new friends or work on why you feel the need to enable someone no matter how they act. If you raise your kids thinking any of that is okay you are just as bad if not worse. It's not "the way it is" or "how it's done" it's teaching predatory ideals and tactics.
Idk. For me it’s even the whistling. EXCUSE ME SIR I don’t wanna be whistled at just because I dare to exist. Even when I look like a mess people have the audacity to catcall, because it’s not about how I look, it’s about how they don’t see any woman (conventionally beautiful, or not) as anything more than an object that is there only for them to check it out and whistle if it’s ok. Disgusting. Im so tired of this.
The only thing that helps me stay in my mind (girls and guys and non binary pals, if catcalling hurts you just as it hurts me, this may help) is thinking one thought. If they catcall you even when you look average, no bikini or high heels (and they do), this means they do it to basically EVERY woman they see, because there’s no actual difference between you and the other ones. And it really makes me laugh like crazy thinking about the poor guy that goes “ohhhh sexy”, has no reaction, then goes to the next woman, goes like “ohhh sexy” again, and 100 times like that… man, just like install tinder or something
In the part where Tate says that you must bear responsibility if you put yourself in a position where you could get sexually abused, he is absolutely wrong. We see victim-blaming like this far too often in questions like, "Well what were you wearing?" The truth is, it doesn't matter what someone is wearing, and even if they were wearing something that is tight, or revealing, if you as an adult man, cannot control yourself, you should not be accepted into society. We shouldn't have to live in a world, where women are scared to wear a piece of clothing because they might get sexually abused.
Those men would assault someone anyway. If clothes trigger them they would have just assaulted someone else. Unless you paid them to assault someone. It's not your fault.
A friend of mine posted stories on Instagram of her just trying to get home on the public transport after a party. You can see and hear men interrogating her about her name, number, where she lives, if she has a boyfriend. She told every single one that she had a bf and non of them left her alone. It was 4 separate incidents in the single journey home. She then cried on the phone to me how people were replying to her story that she shouldn't have been alone at night, she shouldn't have worm pretty clothes (it was a work party so she wasn't wearing anything "inappropriate") and how if she didn't want them talking to her she should have just said so. As if she doesn't have the right to get home safe and walk around. People are responsible for their behaviour so idk why that line is used to blame victims rather than perpetrators
You know what? I gotta give credit where it's due; thank you Mr Tate for helping women spot creeps 1000% easier. Now women know never to meet any guy supporting his ideas and supporting his cult. See how awful these guys are before ever speaking to any of these monsters! Remember, this is why it's crucial to support free speech.... Identifying psychopaths and narcissists before they destroy your life.
Unironically this. I dated a guy for about 1-2 years and then he started talking about girls in his life like an incel and singing the praises of Andrew Tate and JustPearlyThings, I felt too scared to break things off without a reasonable excuse. My current fiance helped me come up with an excuse and he texted me again recently, I pretended to have changed my number.
"You got arrested? Shouldn't have been seen by a police officer then." Actually that doesn't make sense for me to say since he deserves to be arrested.
He is actually disgusting. But what is scary is he actually has thousands of men that love him and pay for his subscription thing. All these men that believe AT ideals. That's the really scary part
Thankfully the majority of his followers are teenagers and hopefully most will grow past it. The sad part is the MGTOW and red pill community is still a decent enough size to be a concern.
Yeah I’m gonna need them to leak those names of the men using his service. If people can leak how much twitch streamers make, they can leak this. It’s more important.
@@redrustyhill2nd this is one of the many reasons why men are starting to follow the tates in their thousands. If you are a straight white male then you are demonised in society and the scapegoat for everything that is wrong. It’s become almost fashionable to hate on them. Then the tates offer them something different and speak to them in a way that they have never been before. You want young males to not go down this path then take some responsibility in the way you are pushing them to it.
As a Romanian, as far as I know, Andrew Tate is investigated by Romanian police for many charges related to human traff or SA. As a woman living in Romania, I feel scared for my own safety knowing that this person is living in my country at the moment. I really hope police is going to arrest him or something.
The allegations of him beating or sexually harassing women is false The woman who was “beaten” actually addressed the whole situation and corrected everyone that it was a s*xplay, not abuse made by Andrew Tate, what you’re not hearing is that he said in his final message that he built an orphanage and a dog shelter to combat stray dog and orphan problems in Romania, because “normal” people won’t clip that, they’ll only clip the out of context and now his meaning behind what he says, like when he says something like “women are property” he really means “men should treat their women like they treat their property, take good care and make sure she’s okay and he wants men to be strong, intelligent and protective to women, but obviously 12-year-old kids don’t get the message and they take masculinity way too far making the idea look bad, and this UA-camr only looked at the negatives, notice how there’s no positives or any videos of tate responding to these allegations, people want to hear both sides to form their own opinion, that doesn’t happen in videos most times because UA-cam and other social media sites will silence the positives of Andrew tate and only leave the negatives, which if realized by the general population, would give the internet CEOs a really bad reputation, you can go watch Andrew Tate’s final message video if you want to find out what he truly means behind what he says in all of his podcasts
@@purpleplays69420 Let's not forget that the biggest dictators of the world were animal lovers and still committed atrocities. I have Googled about what you said Andrew Tate did as "good" and there are no credible sources about it. You can't convince anyone about his "good intentions" if he himself propagated all the bad stuff on the Internet. Inabber did a decent investigation about the whole situation and he didn't "just promoted bad stuff about Andrew Tate". He showed proof of everything he was claiming Andrew Tate did. He was also saying when something was strictly his opinion or when something it is just "claimed" and not confirmed. Also if you say half of your ideas the way Andrew Tate does and then say "oh but he really meant this and and not this" it is stupid to do. You either tell your whole idea completely or don't. Even having these stuff said this way is harming for young boys who have no good role model and they try to understand how to navigate the world. It is not healthy to take advantage of young people/ vulnerable people like this so you can pay your expensive yacht vacation for an instagram post. Also, claiming that the girl addressed the situation after saying it was just "play" it doesn't proof anything. She might've addressed the situation like this out of fear for what Andrew Tate could do against her. Being a victim of assa*lt is a hard thing to process and every victim of this, regardless of gender, find a hard time coming out and talking about it. Trying to protect him like this just tells me that you either payed for his University or either you are one of those categories vulnerable and taken advantage of. Stay safe and look out for better role models.
@@purpleplays69420 What positives does andrew have? He's just a guru scam artist who says the same shit every guru scam artist says, stop praising him so hard, he doesn't do anything revolutionary.
The most I was ever cat-called in my life was disgustingly when I was 13 years old. I didn't have a car and didn't wanna spend all my time getting chaufeured by my mom, so if I wasn't going far, I'd walk. Never dressed revealing, I was 13 and sometimes was even wearing sweatpants and a hoodie.... Just to get whistled, honked, and hollered at by GROWN adult males..... yuck
@@tatiana4050 beyond sorry that happened to you. Says so much more about the ADULT harassers than it does about us, but grateful we know all that we do for girlies now/ in the future
Andrew Tate is basically one of those SA survivor "supporters" that are like "Oh I'm so sorry that happened to you, but *maybe* you shouldn't have put yourself in that situation" as IF people purposely put themselves in a situation where they were taken advantage of because the other party had more power over them.
I mean it's gonna depend on the situation, sometimes personal responsibility does play a role. If you live in a really high crime area and it's 2 in the morning and you decide to take a stroll down a back alley... like yeah, what the fuck do you think was gonna happen. It's like leaving a lambo unlocked in a ghetto. What the fuck do you think was gonna happen.
@@unyieldingmonotony4453 oh yeah, blame someone for living somewhere affordable. It is not the victims fault in any way. The only person who can control the perpetrator's actions is the perpetrator themself.
@@kitsunekarli3548 So if I told you. I left my Bentley unlocked in a ghetto with the highest rates of theft in the country. Your response would only be "That's so terrible, I'm so sorry that happened to you". And that's it, that would be the entirety of your analysis of my situation. Like I'm sorry, but if you live in a poor, high crime neighborhood and you are walking around back alleys at 2 in the morning you deserve to be robbed and stabbed, Darwinism at it's finest. You should not walk through life as if people aren't absolute disgusting savage animals who would make you suffer just for the fun of it. You have a criminally high opinion of people if that's not the lense in which you view strangers.
As a gay trans man, I second this. People like him (if not him, then his followers) are usually big corrective r@pe, either of lesbians or trans men, and that shit scares me a lot.
@@rosegold-sc6fp Exactly. Same thing is applied to trans men sometimes too, hence me mentioning that too. Overall, it's the idea that like, "no AFAB person could resist me because AFAB people like AMAB people in reality, and they're just lying to themselves, so I'll open their eyes about it, even if it's against their will". It's highkey horrific that said mindset/opinion/views are even vaguely normalized or as widespread as they are. Seriously though, stay safe out there. And I apologize if me mentioning trans men shifted the topic a bit, it wasn't my intention to take attention away from lesbians who might be hurt by that mentality, but rather to point out the very similar issue, stemming from p much the same source, that we see with trans men as well.
The fact the these pigs just see someone who they perceive as "attractive" or just see them as "female" in general, then proceed to harass them based on those qualities alone is what scares me when I walk out of my house. I've never been whistled at, I'm on the overweight side, but that never stopped them from harassing me anyway. I had a panic attack from 2 teen boys barking at me while out at the mall with my best friend and I stopped enjoying myself because it made me feel like ripping off my skin. Acosting some random on the street is harassment. It invokes fight or flight and can emotionally devastate someone. I'm sorry that was long, it's just something I wanted to say. So, Beans and keep up the good work, Frasier.
Don't insult pigs by comparing them to these impotent oppressive parasitic opportunistic insignificant sub-algae. Pigs deserve better than to be associated with such filth.
so many people dont realize the situations women are actually in when they are assaulted/raped. women that are asleep in their homes and someone breaks in, women who are just trying to put their groceries in their car and gets attacked, women who are in relationships and the partner ends up assaulting them. you can't tell me a woman who is asleep in her own home and gets raped because someone breaks in should "bear the responsibility"? was she wearing too revealing pajamas in the privacy of her own home and now its her fault she gets raped? wtf
As an older gay woman, who has experienced SA, I find AT and his following truly disturbing and dangerous. My 14 yr old nieces have told me some truly horrific things that their male peers have said to them as a direct result of those young men watching AT. I fear not only for my own safety, but the safety of young women everywhere, when this mentality is being hero worshipped and emulated. And for those of you questioning ‘wolf whistling’…yes it is a form of sexual harassment and is unacceptable to, and unwanted by the majority of women
I was eleven. How was I meant to prevent my grandfather- someone who was close to me and I trusted to not do that to me. I was fourteen. How was I meant to prevent a twenty something drunk women from doing what she did to me. I was sixteen, how was I meant to prevent my boyfriend, who I loved and trusted from doing the things he did to me.
29:38 Those "tattoos" are ceremonial brands. They are indicators of captivity, not expressions of love. Edit: If twenty-two humans have his name tattooed on their body, convince me Andrew Tate has not trafficked at least twenty-two humans.
I'm old enough to be your mother. But I think you are amazing to speak on this. Being the mother of girls and a wonderful daughter that is transexual. This is something that I really think is very important. We have the absolute same problem in Sweden where I live. This is the awful truth. And it's important to keep the conversation going. Thank you! 🌻
I'm actually afraid to go outside. as an SA survivor, it's ruining my mental health being on the internet, and EVERYWHERE there is misogynistic men. what right do they have to hate us? I'm the one fueled with hatred due to fear.
it’s not just adult men, it’s children he’s influencing. that’s the worst part. it can’t stop and end here without parents understanding that their children will learn about sexism regardless of if they educate them themselves or not. having age appropriate conversations about sexism is so important because the people who support (or at the very least, don’t hate) Tate don’t usually come to him believing everything he says. but because they were never educated on these topics, they are easily convinced since they think they have to either be on Tate’s wavelength or they’re “woke.”
I’ve been catcalled or have an incident regarding men at least once every year since I was 15. I’ve been photographed without consent. I’ve had to stand between my mom and the harasser because I was scared he would hurt my mom more than him hurting me. Hearing Tate’s rhetoric just brings up those feelings of fear, and it worries me that the normalization of such rhetoric will lead to more and more occurrences of what I’ve experienced and further escalations.
While this is about the horrible people that are Andrew Tate & his brother, as well as the way they see woman as nothing more than objects for their own pleasure, I would like to point out that not only do woman & those of the LGBTQ+ community sadly have to deal with SA but so do men in some cases. A person regardless of their gender identity or sexuality orientation should never have to go through the trauma of SA & it's people like Andrew & his brother who teach young people that this toxic shit is okay when it 1,000% is never okay
This, one hundred percent. The rhetoric these "Alpha male" influencers push makes men feel even more uncomfortable speaking out about their SA. As a survivor myself, it really sucks to see. Nobody deserves to have their consent violated, and especially be discredited after the fact. Absolutely breaks my heart-
Andrew and Tristan would never say in their life that sexual assault/ assaulting a woman is okay. Also, they view chicks they pick up of the street for sex as objects, just like how hookers and gold diggers view men as objects for money. The only difference is that they the tastes do form emotional attachments to girls they want IN their life. The bottom line is that neither Andrew or Tristan would condone sexual assault. And don’t even start with the allegations that have been disproven time after time.
@@kyleb8672 He fled the country because of rape charges, and the Romanian police had to raid his house because he was running a human trafficking ring- and holding minors there against their will. I'm sorry your mom didn't hug you enough, or maybe some girl in the sixth grade didn't like you back- but women are not after your money. They are fearing for their life, and coping from the abuse that is statistically impossible to escape from. Please get a grip on reality, and stop promoting this dangerous behavior. You are putting actual people in danger.
@@Edisius95 Please don't lose hope, we need to keep making people aware and holding them accountable for their actions. I know it's hard, and it feels so stacked against us- but we can do it. If it gets too hard, just take some time and take care of yourself.
as a woman ive had people whistle at me, and it makes me very uncomfortable, first time it happened i was 10 and it made me terrified of wearing shorts and dresses outdoors
Really pisses me off when Tate said that the safety of men is threatened. I can't walk outside on my own as a woman because I have to use a cane, and that puts a neon target on my back that screams ASSAULT ME! And since Roe V. Wade has been overturned, I have to be doubly careful.
Its crazy the context he says it in too. He said the "safety of men is threatened" in the context of SA allegations. What he's actually saying is "Men's ability to take away the safety of women without consequence is being threatened" and honestly that's f-cking disgusting. Roe V. Wade being overturned is the legal "solution" to Tate's "concern" of men's "safety being threatened".
its genuinley scary to be a young female or feminine presenting person today. its 2022 and it feels like we are back in the witch trial times with some of the awful things said and done to us.
@@Greenteabook god, the women from those times are turning in their graves by your comments. All the issues you have in ur life come from the internet. Making these extreme examples only give the sick ppl like the guy he is talking about their power, they’ll use comments like this, comparing the damn Blair witch trials to being whistled at. God save humanity.
In the 90s , I had this one extreemly great male friend who I could trust with my life. Thank God! No matter what I wore, no matter how drunk I got. He kept baddies at bay and would even take me to a hotel, pay for my room, carry me in and say goodnight. He locked the door and left. He would come back and pick me up to take me home the next morning, with NO expectations except friendship. You have no idea how many of my female friends envied that. I will be forever grateful to him as long as I live. Unfortunately he was a rarity back then. People like A.T. need to go back to the stone age where they belong. Their language alone makes me want to vomit and yeet him from the planet. He has no clue how hard it is to live as a female in this world because of people like him. Poor Romania. EDIT: Why can't all humans just be treated like fellow humans?
running from problems like Tate did isnt manly at all, facing problems head on and with brain instead of brawn is way more manly in my opinion, if i do something wrong im owning up to it instead of thinking "alright im going into hiding", one can only run for so long you know, great video iNabber!
The biggest thing to remember when speaking to people under the influence of people like Andrew or other figures seen as leaders is that any form of belittling their beliefs or choices will only make them double down out of shame and fear of being ridiculed. It’s hard not to tell someone who likes these people that they are dumb or being duped but it will be even harder to help them when you do. Instead, talk them through those ideas and beliefs and guide them through the conversation to the fallacies by having them answer the harder questions and truths. Bring up interesting things you read or watched that are informative and suggest it without saying, “Well, this says you’re wrong”. Use instead, “”I saw this really good article about that on this site and I think you would really like it.” Anyways, that’s kind of how I do it, and while it doesn’t end up changing their mind right away, I find it plants those seeds where the person becomes a bit more aware of what they are consuming and how they respond.
Yes, its often the guys who feel belittled and ridiculed by the world who tend to follow these ideologies. Insulting them only serves to feed into their narrative that the world is against them and that they're justified in following Tate and his influences. Talking though it with them is often the best way to make them see a little bit more of reality. It takes several talks at several different times to fully pull them out of this trash ideology, but it can happen and it is possible to help them out. These followers tend to be wholly unaware of how their behavior and words come across in the "standard social environment" so explaining it from the point of view of someone who doesn't understand their thought process will almost never work, as they often feel very "othered" by people who don't understand their thought process. You have to kind of get on their social level and explain it from there for them to understand it better. Also, stating that you're in relationship will not help either lol they will just get more bitter that you've somehow managed to "get a girl" even though you're "putting them down". Talking through things with incels and people who follow Tate is a dangerous path filled with verbal and social landmines.
So I coach a bunch of young kids and some of the 11-13 year old boys were talking about Andrew Tate, saying things like “I love him! He’s hilarious!” And I yelled at them for it. They weren’t aware of all the horrible things he’s done and said they followed him because “what he says is so ridiculous it’s funny!” And they “don’t actually believe what he says” but after explaining why they shouldn’t support this man, they promised me they would stop watching him (don’t know how much I believe that). Moral of the story it’s scary how young his audience actually is.
That's when you alert their parents and ask if they're aware of who their child is following and watching. That's what a teacher did where I live...so many middle school aged boys (11-13) were being fan boys about him. So she contacted their parents to make them aware of how horrible he is.
It could be worse. Those boys would have ended up in schools where they're systematically told that they'd grow up to be monsters that would harm women and young girls, with some of them being shamed for being heterosexual cisgendered males.
Alex Jones came from an affluent background. And he still has access to his daddy's money since his daddy is involved to some extent in the whole InfoWars lie machine. His daddy bankrolled his first foray into radio, buying advertising for his dental practice in order to secure Alex a job at the radio station. Andy Tatertot and Alex Jones are the same archetype running different grifts that tend to target a very similar demographic.
Told a dude I worked with that wolf whistling any women is harassment and he said it's not so I countered "how would you feel if a guy cat called you" he dead ass said "I don't like dudes, I'd fuck him up" and I said "I don't like dudes either but they cat call me" and he said " that's different, you're a women they assume you like men, it's not harassment it's shooting your shot" and I said the dude was shooting his shot too and the dude got mad and said he's not spelling it out how it's different
The comment about being responsible for being raped has me crying. I have fibromyalgia and my ex recently raped me because I was in too much pain to fight back. Comments like that make me feel like it’ll inevitably happen again and that terrifies me.
So according to Andrew Tate, it was my fault that I was at my babysitter’s house and her boyfriend took advantage? It was my fault that my cousin happened to be visiting my grandma at the same time I was? It was my fault that a dude unlocked my door and wouldn’t take no for an answer? Wow, I’m learning so much.
Jumping on this! It was totally my fault for being a 4 year old girl existing around my uncle lol. I must have done something over those years to make him SA me lol... I'm so sorry you went through this. I hope you've been able to find a way to heal.
Yeah, it also was my fault for going to the bus station from school, during the winter (so I was not showing my shapes, being dressed in thick winter clothes). I was 16.
@@Stephyay01 I’m doing okay now. I’m in therapy to work out some of my issues since making jokes about my trauma didn’t seem all that healthy. I hope you’re doing well, also!
I am genuinely so glad you covered the harassment part in the way that you did. at my high school, there was a group of boys every day that constantly whistled, winked, and plain up were making gross gestures as jokes with each other every day for the full semester I had that class. I was able to ignore it for a while, but it eventually got to me and had a huge toll on my mental health. Recently I believe I got it almost fully handled, but that's yet to be determined. It's a horrible feeling to have that happen to you, and for a long while I hated and was disgusted with myself for letting it happen, although it was out of my control, even after every time I asked them to stop. Please, never ever do this. Even as a joke. it may affect others on different levels, but overall it's a negative experience for the victim. For the time I handled it I was too scared to speak up cause I didn't think something at such a 'low level' could qualify as that kind of harassment. Although its mostly handled now, I am always so paranoid that if I were to explain the actions irl to someone, they would just blow it off bc they're 'just joking around'
Only halfway in and I feel like this man is someone that's like "oh men get r-worded too" And then leave out the fact the majority of those cases are caused by other men
im happy you along with others are covering this horrible excuse for a human being, you always put so much effort and research/thought into what you make so good job and thanks :)
SCHOOL! The answer is I don't go! Why go? I am famous. I am famous. I have more fans than fingers multiplied with toes multiplied with teeth multiplied with ears. I am famous. I am famous. SCHOOL? No, thanks. UA-cam FAME? Yes. Good day, dear rho
my dad had to tell off his coworker for this, this almost 40 year old man couldnt grasp that yelling "nice ass" at a *teenager* from his car wasnt a compliment
I had that happen to me and my little sister because I was dressed to feminine for a guy and a grown ass man literally screamed at me for wearing a pink shirt
I've been followed home by men so often in my life that I have a long way home that will ensure they'll get tired of following me before they find out where I live... my friends have had to walk me home from rehearsals before when I live less than five minutes away. I don't hate men, but like Fraser said, I struggle to trust men right away. I cross over when I see a group of men coming towards me or hear them behind me. To see men like Andrew Tate become so popular and that others find him funny absolutely terrifies me.
Shout out to the train driver who went out of his way to come in and check on me tonight when he saw I was alone in a carriage with a man acting weird.
The fact that this man STILL has a following after ALL of the shit he’s done being a free google search away tells me EVERYTHING i need to know about modern day social media🤦🏾♀️😭
Modern day social media?? You are deepy programmed by this modern day social media you talk about, you said a google search tells you "everything" you need to know about someone why? because the inernet is good at dividing us into groups and setting each group with their own way of thinking and opposite "group" mentalities to hate, united we stand divided we fall
His controversial nature is the reason for his fame. Good or bad publicity are both good for him. You can't expose or cancel him and his haters continue making him as much money as his fans do.
I've been catcalled on the street since I was 16 years old, and I was almost kidnapped two years ago after rejecting a man's advances. No means no and I'm scared to go out because of assholes like AT
The thing that makes cat calling scary is that we never know what your intentions are or what you're capable of. You are literally a stranger. I've had people wolf whistle and then assault me by throwing things at me from their car. How am I supposed to know /you specifically/ won't do that? Also you don't know how old the person you're cat calling is. I was 14 when it started happening to me.
Its also scary because if you're willing to openly and outwardly sexualize a stranger whose age and life circumstances you don't know, then that shows a complete lack of regard for that person's boundaries. Men (or people in general, but in these cases its mostly men) who have no regard for other people's boundaries tend to be capable of doing horrible things without feeling much regret or responsibility (SA, violence, harassment, stalking, taking advantage of others, statutory, etc), and unfortunately many of them do end up doing those things. It shows a lack of regard for the person's circumstances, age, and boundaries, and thus a lack of regard for the person's humanity. Its gross and creepy and it makes people feel unsafe. You're totally right, i's not the whistling that's the problem. It's the mindset and the fact that people think it's acceptable to do it. Under what circumstances is it okay to sexualize a stranger to their face in public and feel no shame for that? I, personally, don't think it's okay to do that to anyone at any time in any place. It takes some real audacity to do that, and that audacity leads to other actions that harm women, femme-presenting people, and LGBTQIA+ people (as well as men, but often in different ways).
The scariest moment i had was when a truck full of guys was catcalling me while driving by slowly, then they turned the truck around back again. I thought i was going to be raped.... I was 12.
@@swiftie13 Jesus Christ…..I’m so happy they didn’t harm you. My aunt had a similar thing happen when she was walking home before dawn after work in Mexico in the 90s…a truck w/ several men saw her & turned around ….she bolted & hid in someone’s yard. She came out until they drove off
Actually they do know, and they do it on purpose. i got cat called from 12-16, now I'm 21 i never get cat called at all, and it was almost always in school uniform, so they all knew i had to be 16 or under. Its horrific
As someone who has a bf and we've been together for a while we've joked that if he supports tate or any of his ideals that we would need to break up because I wouldn't feel safe. We've had a serious convo once but now we just joke when we see something awful he's done. He's someone who shouldn't have a platform to begin with and shouldn't be a role model for young boys
@@toughcookie250 A lot of work because she wants to feel safe? Okay, Zach. Pretty sure 90% of women would want to be with someone who doesn't believe that we're nothing but servants and sex toys
Yes, I do the same with my boyfriend! and he agrees, tate is a sick person and anyone who agrees with his mindset is a terrible person as well.🤷♀🤦♀ I wish you a happy relationship with your boyfriend!🙂❤
I use people like tate to fuel my workouts, because I just imagine me beating them to death and it motivates me to go harder so I could *in theory, parody, non-actionable* kill them with my bare hands. (I have gained at least 10kg of muscle since I started doing this so I think it's working)
the fact that i immediately recognized the term "lover boy" when it was mentioned in the video is so sad, as a woman living in romania i had to learn abt these techniques to ""seduce women"" bc its so incredibly rampant here. Someone had to come to our school and speak to us abt it, teaching us to look out for specific signs because a girl who used to learn here was part of a ""seducing women"" ring herself and had to change identities because of it it's heartbreaking and its disgusting that we have to live like this and people like him still call us all stupid little girls who just lie all the time and no one's doing anything about it! not the police and not the social media places hes infested with his presence bc, as usual, money goes above everything else. no one truly cares about women until everyone does
On wolf whistling, I've found a good way to explain it is, people who think it's not a big deal have typically never seen it escalate or don't realize how often it does. It's the same with unsolicited DMs or a guy asking for my number while I'm in the store or any other "it's not really harassment" moment. I'm just going about my day, living my life, often with my kids, and suddenly some guy will demand my attention. And half of the time I'll say I'm not interested and he'll give me a little smile and say no problem and be on his way and that's fine, I'm not going to say those guys don't exist - those guys are the majority. But then there's the other half. Of that remaining 50%, some will push a little. And of those guys again, about half will back off when I say "seriously, I'm not interested" and that's also fine, can't blame a guy for trying, right? But then there's the other half.... And sure, it might only be 5% of the guys who approach me who end up "really" harassing me, i.e. who get aggressive, assault me, start following me when I leave the store, threaten my kids, etc. and yeah I'd say 5% seems pretty accurate for my personal experience as a very average looking woman in her mid 30s, but let me put that 5% into perspective for you - a large bag of skittles has about 190 sweets in it. If I offered you a sweet, but with the caveat that 10 of those sweets will hurt you in a way that you cannot control or predict, and one of those will put you in the hospital or even kill you... would you eat it? And before you get all sassy saying nothing comes between you and skittles, remember that for this analogy to be accurate, you're not being OFFERED a skittle, you're having a skittle pushed into your mouth while you're at the store with your kids, and you just have to hope it's not a bad one this time.
EXACTLY! Plus, just because it's only a few people doesn't matter because it's enough to make ALL WOMEN SCARED, like yall see the issue? You aren't gonna know if the bug has a disease or not and ya don't wanna risk it.
Maybe when THEY do it (most guys who participate in this behavior) they genuinely mean it in a completely harmless way and never intend to escalate. When you're on the receiving end of the behavior, you have 0 way to tell which type of guy they are because they behave the same as the ones who escalate. In regards to the skittle analogy, it's a good one for these types of things tbh. Not really related, but I am someone who LOVES skittles, but I've also have people attempt to shove skittles unwanted into my mouth (the situation wasn't a big deal and it was kids getting a little too rowdy), and even as a skittle lover, having something forced on me was incredibly unpleasant. Which on second thought, does make it an even better analogy for such attention. Some people may even enjoy attention from time to time, but that doesn't mean they enjoy ALL types of attention ALL the time, and some of that attention will escalate and be harmful.
@@lrose5522 exactly this. I picked skittles 'cause I love skittles and hey I have kids, I've had skittles pushed into my mouth many a time by a well meaning grubby little sugar gremlin, that doesn't mean I want random strangers to start pushing candy in my face on the street. Same with attention from guys - sure, it's nice, it's flattering, it's a compliment, but that doesn't change the fact that said compliment might come with a stalker as the price tag. The fact that I like the compliment doesn't mean want it if there's the uncertainty of what it'll cost me just like how I like skittles but I'm not going to accept a half-melted one from someone's pocket.
It is horrifying to be a young woman in America right now... with the over turning of roe v wade (a tragedy) and people like the tate brothers spreading their disgusting messages, specifically about SA and harassment of women, America is about to slip into dark times where women’s lives are ruined, taken away from them, forever changed. As a young woman who is very small in size, I rarely leave my home alone for fear that something awful will happen, even when I have lived in relatively safe areas. I fear all men because I do not know what they are capable of or what their intentions are. Until a man proves that they are trustworthy and not a threat, I feel unsafe. That is not to say that there are not good men, but women have a lot to lose to a man who may never face consequences for their actions. SA can ruin someone’s life, man or woman, and it’s heartbreaking to see someone who bought such a huge platform try to discredit those people...
I'm sorry you're so afraid. I strongly recommend getting a scary breed of dog like a Pitt bull or Rottweiler. They will be lovely dogs to you, but they will protect you to the death.
You are overreacting.... Nothing has changed from some shitty court case. No one will say "Oh I'm gonna rape women because they can't get an abortion".
As a DV survivor I am more scared of the world now then I was we I was being abused by my partner at the time. The world is 100% a scary place and we are basically heading back to the 70’s with all rights we as women are having taken away.
One of these days Tate or his brother will mess with the daughter of the wrong person, like a special forces vet. That person will not be calling the police but taking matters into their own hands.
I've seen so many people be like "wElL hE wAs a KiCkBoxEr". This man admits to having a machete in almost every room of his house. He just needs to fall asleep or be distracted and he bleeds like everyone else
@@javabean4383 I really think he has CTE from being hit in the head too many times. It looks like he's short circuiting when he's expected to have a complex thought, which is why he always sticks to the same rhetoric
The fact that most SA cases aren't even reported makes Tate's situation worse. He's only making SA victims experiences worse and it's terribly dangerous.
I'm making this a different comment because this is less important. The day this was uploaded my art table ended up getting on the topic of Andrew Tate. Four of us all agreed "Tate bad." But this country boy, who's un-needingly stated he's "not homophobic"(which if you have to state that, you might be 👀), said "Well I don't like him....BUT he spit some facts about smoking." He gives me the creeps and he genuinely scares me.
Fraser: How does it feel to not live in you mother's basement at 33 years old? Me: *Currently lives in my **_grandfather's_** basement, at **_29_** years old* Phew, dodged a bullet there didn't I!
Honestly as someone from a culture where living with your parents forever is normal, don't sweat it. Things in the world aren't great right now and we've all had to make financial decisions. If you want to move out, you'll get there eventually.
I grew up with a dad (kinda, it's complicated) that was basically the boomer version of this dude. I remember the day he threw my shorts onto the roof before school, shorts that were well within dress code, and dragged me by my hair to the car and then to the school's front door. I was 12, and he had already begun to teach me that men couldn't control themselves if I wore clothes like that and it'd be my fault entirely. Now, at 23, he hasn't been in my life for years, but I can't wear anything that even shows my shins because I would have a nervous breakdown
My earliest memories are of sexual assault…I was under 6 years old when my abuse started…I didn’t have a concept of good or evil outside of like Disney villains…I did nothing to put myself in a position to be sexually assaulted… I wasn’t dressed provocatively or drunk… I was wearing Dino tracksuits and watching finding nemo…
i love the mention of joey swol. this man has inspired so many people/men to be better human beings, specifically in gym environments. He’s helped so many people feel comfortable going to the gym and called out people that act like andrew tate.
I really was losing faith in the male population after seeing Andrew Tates videos and his followers, but you give a glimmer of hope that not all men are like this😊
I wonder how Tate might change his perspective if he got catcalled Maybe by a few large men Like the kind fellows in Wednesday Addams vs Catcallers Just a little group to compliment the former kickboxer.
I've had a random realization. ive been wondering why sexism is one of the only major plights of the world that people are still currently ok with openly and proudly in large numbers, and I'm thinking its because its the only one where the receivers of sexism are just as large in count as the givers, as in everyone that ISNT a man, like half the population, is a receiver, and therefore it doesn't feel like much of an attack by these sexist men because although we're dubbed a minority, we are technically as minority as men are, as in we're not. And so no one feels like the class of "women" is a victimized group where more people outside of it are enough in abundance to fight for it. Ik minority doesn't entirely mean in terms of population, but that's how it all starts with, its starts with population count imo. Regardless of these feelings, day to day life will feel like we are a small minority due to sexism on the streets, at work, social situations, etc that we quietly suffer through, but in broad general conversation where men like Andrew speak about all women, we don't seem like a one. We are too big of a minority for people to give enough of a fuck about basically and now I've never felt more depressed in my life.
My boyfriend is so far gone I can't really try anymore. We fight every other day at this point. The latest was me not accepting him as my leader since I chose him I should trust him to guide our life.. all I said was I see us as a team that brings our toolboxes together. So that was the final flag for me
I hate how this guys priority was to be in a situation where IF he was accused of r*pe he wouldn't be reprimanded!! if you've got a big story in your back pocket as to how you can't be at fault for rape you're not okay. You need to reroute your thinking because it's not okay. You can't go around plotting how you can get out of assault accusations like you plan to spend your pocket money. It's fucked up. People are special, we are indivuals and every one of us experiences human emotions such as pain and fear in similar ways, whilst still processing it differently. You can't trivialise the human experience. But he has. I'm actually glad that we have Andrew as a voice for people like that. He's loud and abrasive and is exposing a deeper issue that needs to be discussed. Life is all about exchanging of ideas and I'm glad we have you, Fraser. I respect the hustle of exposing gross people on the daily. It helps shift outrage and disgust into conversation and growth. p.s. idk who needs to hear this today but listen to ur red flags more often and u will thank yourself later 🙏
Watching this reminded me if the time in college where someone I knew made so less then desirable comments about my body, stuff I had expressed I hated and always avoided due to anything of that nature making me feel grossed out. I was lucky on of my classmates immediately shut it down but the fact they even said those things, whilst I could clearly hear them, made me so uncomfortable and grossed out. I know others have had worse but I thought that me openly stating I hate comments like that and they still did it makes me think that future generations are gonna suffer badly if something isn't done soon
As a Romanian I detest the fact that he lives there. And why? Because Romania doesn’t pay attention to sexual crimes. Also there’s no such thing as an alpha male. That was faulty research based on observing wolves. The alpha was in fact not a male wolf😏
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btw i thought i'd clarify, asking someones name isn't harassment. - WOLF WHISTLING IS HARASSMENT
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Absolutely agree with this
Agreed
EXACTLY.
I can't believe that wolf whistling (or anything similar) is still being used (and actually still has a miniscule amount of success).
Me and my sister were walking with my mother when we were kids and she was catcalled, immediately after she told us never to scream back bc they might get angry and hurt us, I've never forgotten that, the fact she even had to teach primary school kids that is scary, catcalling, whistling etc doesn't just make someone uncomfortable, it can scare them and make them feel unsafe and like they aren't human, it's 100% harrasment
This honestly
Yep. Women aren’t *allowed* to have boundaries, women aren’t *allowed* to say no, because if they do, they could be in very serious danger. And society just feeds into the idea that that’s somehow okay.
Happened to my mom, my sister, and I as well. Except she wasn’t the only one getting catcalled, my sister and I were as well. She was in fifth grade and I was a sophomore in high school. They were grown men in a car. We went out without my brother and just had a nice meal at a restaurant. It soured our evening.
That happened to my mom too, she was walking us home from elementary school and a bunch of college frat boys whistled at her and called her 'baby mama' and other vile shit
Andrew Tate is Onision in a timeline where he was actually successful. Same message, same concerning behaviors, Andrew just isn’t screeching and covering himself in kombucha
Not yet anyway...
Give it time.
No bestie it's sparkling water that will be his downfall.
no he's still screeching. I'm just waiting for the kombucha at this point
We need to bully him... For justice ⚖️
You know how Tate can lose the majority of his fanbase? Parents putting parental controls over their kid's electronics 🤣
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Horrifically you are probably correct . Ugh.
Ohhh what a joke my stomach hurts hahaha
There’s a heck of a lot of problems in the world that could be solved by parents restricting or even just keeping an eye on what their kids do on the internet.
When I was at prime ‘getting traumatised by stuff on the Internet’ age, I had to use UA-cam Kids, and you know what? I absolutely hated it, with a passion. But you know what else? I reached teenage years without even being aware of any kids fandom gore, the elsagate stuff, I managed to duck it all since I wasn’t allowed on the part of the platform where that was taking place. In short, keep an eye on your kids’ internet access, because while they may not appreciate it at the time they sure as heck will 5-10 years down the line.
@@AmberMaytionsOh absolutely, my mom gave me her old laptop when I was 7-8 years old with 0 restrictions and no supervision. I seriously don't know what she thought she was doing, how I avoided most of the horrors of the internet is beyond me.
Imagine telling a child to take some responsibility for their rape.....wow.
It’s not that crazy to think since it’s so common.
I have seen teachers talk about the twelve year old boys in their class being violently disrespectful towards the girls in their classes and then start talking about how great Andrew Tate is. Maybe it’s not affecting his older fan base as much but those young boys who are following him are becoming violent hateful people and are going to get a harsh wake-up call if they continue this behavior when they end up in jail or getting seriously injured.
That’s exactly what I’m worried about. Kids are so impressionable and don’t have enough reasoning skills to fully realize this guy is not a good influence. But yes, let’s keep laughing at the things he says (apparently people think he’s funny). It’s a very manipulative game he’s playing.
There exists a TikTok of a teacher who addressed the very same issue. In the class where she teaches she said one of her pupils, a 13 years old boy was making fun of his classmate who had gained weight and called her "fat", and said "women shouldnt be fat". basically under almost the same tones as Tate. it is really worrying how much impact this person has in the younger generation
Pre-teens and early teens are basically psychopaths. If they feel they have the green light to do what they want it gets ugly real fast.
@@taftybufty yeah I saw that one as well as multiple others being like Andrew Tate is messing with the minds of these young boys
Interesting point. This reminds me of when I was a 12yo little girl and Andrew Dice Clay was hugely popular (ouch, I'm dating myself here!). The boys in my class worshipped Clay, quoted all his misogynistic jokes, and taunted the girls with sexual innuendoes. At least ADC was just a caricature... But this Tate guy's caricature has become his life. It won't end well.
genuinely the most frustrating upload i've ever had, god i need youtube to fix my channel
Go to UA-cam HQ and throw eggs at them until they fix your channel.
Better idea make them British and throw tea
It's so frustrating because it's a frustrating thing to see happen. In a year that we should be moving forward we still have P.O.S. like Andrew Tate holding us so far back. Well said though. "Please. Just get a fucking grip." Thank you for the video.
As a romanian,the fact that this horrible man moved into the country i live and have lived in for my whole life just because our police is far more corrupt and likely to ignore these sexual assault charges,absolutely breaks my heart and i hope he gets arrested as soon as possible.
I hope the government there does change their laws just for him, laws only for him to follow. Anyway, how is the place. Even though douchebag is there. I always wanted to see where my great grandparents lived
@@kalishiva18 In my opinion,Romania is a beautiful country,but the people are very close minded. Not all,but you get my point.
Also the government is fucked and horribly corrupt
So a horrible guy moves to a country that horrible? Sounds like your country would be the same with or without him. Since the police are so corrupt, I can only imagine what’s happening there.
@@Copac607 just give it time the old boomers will die out
Do you think Tate bragging about living there because of the corruption and then getting raided might help in a conviction?. He seems like such an idiot to tell people he can bribe his way out of things. I would think he would want to keep that on the down low and so would the police there.
My brother tried to show me a clip of Andrew Tate talking about the roles women should play, and then tried to laugh it off that he was joking. He was so upset when I said that he had the privilege of laughing at jokes about women being in the kitchen or assaulting women because he doesn't have to live in that world every single day. He was really defensive about men's mental health (I'm a mental healthcare work btw) and how women just get to hate men in general, and I was like "Well, yeah, because every woman you know probably has been sexually harassed or worse. When it's some men and more men not standing up to those men, it becomes all men and women have to be scared overall until they feels safe with certain men."
My brother is also sharing these thoughts with out baby brothers and I'm so scared.
Good, hopefully his brothers listen.
@@redrustyhill2 How do you feel that Andrew tates in jail now?
@@redrustyhill2sounds like something a beta would say, Taint simp
Hopefully you tell your baby brothers it's wrong to agree with tate
My wife was over a "close" male friends house when she was a late teen. He drugged her and then raped her. How would she accept any responsibility for that? Should females not have any male friends? Should they not eat or drink anything at a the home of a male even if they have known them for years? Crazy pov on that from Tate.
Pretty much all the women i know who have been raped, were raped by a close friend. It’s usually not strangers.
Very crazy indeed. She's known this person for years. Only he was responsible for those actions. And it has nothing to do with the kind of friends that somebody chooses to keep regardless of gender.
Oh god, please give your wife my support and sympathy and absolute revulsion at what was forced upon her.
Did she get justice?
again really sorry for this being a delayed upload, youtube still haven't fixed my channel and processing takes absolutely ages. its a joke at this point. appreciate any support to compensate for the late upload
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It baffles me that people like this not only still exist but that they have a massive following, it’s really disturbing .
but you don't wonder the kardashians exist and they get to talk their toxic femininity which you have girls and women doing plastic surgeries to look like them and strive for their lifestyle
Well there's incel camaraderie so one can only assume that douchebag misogynistic collectives would come together as well. 🤔
Yea, and somehow not only ppl follow him, but women actually like him too. It’s like half ppl think one way, and another half think another way.
@@Jreaddy fear and isolation break brains.
@@lawmanbirdwhat’s it called when you have too much confidence, and are around too many ppl? I’d call that a “tate” lol. It also break the brain, make you basically turn into the type of person Andrew tate is.
As a woman who was almost killed by a guy with these type of beliefs and delusions.
It scares me and I still haven't recovered even 2 years later.
It affected me to the point I hardly leave my own house and fight suicidal ideations due to thinking its my own fault what happened to me happened.
I'm sorry. It's not your fault.
@@ifeellikeimlost thank you
You’re not at fault don’t worry men like that are disgusting and you had no fault in that happened if you need to talk there’s always someone to listen I’m here for you too
Im so sorry you had to go through that! I've been sa'ed and have thought for years that it was my fault. One day the anger will overwhelm the fear and then healing can happen. Stay strong ❤️
@@xxx_mouiz_xxx___7969 Do you know her? Did you see what she went through? No? Then stfu! If you think she is at fault even one bit, you are defending or justifying SA and you are no better than the person who did it to her!
my mother in about 1990 was told while a student in college by her coach (male) "if you want to stop being harassed then just spread your legs" i've never been more angry in my goddamn life. she said it made her super uncomfortable to talk to anyone about the issues of these men frying shit and leaving it in her kitchen and leaving their trash tilted on her and her roommates door, letting it fall all over their kitchen floor. i'm happy that she now works to make sure no one in my school/college have to deal with that
As a woman I find Andrew so inspiring. As a female writer that is, currently writing the most unhinged pos male character I've ever written. Some sht he's said.... I had to take notes ngl 👀 was "here for research" valid then ? 👀
Had me in the first half, ngl.
Absolutely a valid reason. If I wanted to write a horrible dictator, reading mein kampf would be a good research method to get the mindset right. Research is a valid reason most of the time.
The problem with the whole catcalling thing is that the guys that do it are much more likely to do other harassing things that are a threat to a woman’s personal safety. It’s not the whistling itself, it signifies a mindset that is rightly perceived as dangerous at night, alone, as a woman.
it’s also just the fact that women and femme presenting people generally just can’t go out in public doing normal ass things without being made to feel uncomfortable. literally was walking my dog today and had a guy who was with his dog and a child tell me he wanted to go home with me 🙃 like that just ruins my mood and makes me feel super uncomfortable.
So, I'm a trans guy who transitioned as an adult. I've been cat called before. I was 14, in my school uniform, wearing my backpack, and alone on the sidewalk. It was terrifying. It stuck with me. I'll never do that to someone.
It's cat calling and following around/to your car even in broad daylight in front of people. It's refusing to leave them alone after they already told you to stop. It's creating multiple accounts on social media to find and message you even when you block them. It's "he's only picking on you because he likes you." It's not cute, it's not quirky, it isn't innocent. If you let your buddies do this shit, you need to re-evaluate and either get new friends or work on why you feel the need to enable someone no matter how they act. If you raise your kids thinking any of that is okay you are just as bad if not worse. It's not "the way it is" or "how it's done" it's teaching predatory ideals and tactics.
Idk. For me it’s even the whistling. EXCUSE ME SIR I don’t wanna be whistled at just because I dare to exist. Even when I look like a mess people have the audacity to catcall, because it’s not about how I look, it’s about how they don’t see any woman (conventionally beautiful, or not) as anything more than an object that is there only for them to check it out and whistle if it’s ok. Disgusting. Im so tired of this.
The only thing that helps me stay in my mind (girls and guys and non binary pals, if catcalling hurts you just as it hurts me, this may help) is thinking one thought. If they catcall you even when you look average, no bikini or high heels (and they do), this means they do it to basically EVERY woman they see, because there’s no actual difference between you and the other ones. And it really makes me laugh like crazy thinking about the poor guy that goes “ohhhh sexy”, has no reaction, then goes to the next woman, goes like “ohhh sexy” again, and 100 times like that… man, just like install tinder or something
The more I hear about Andrew Tate, the more I'm convinced he's trying to create a cult of sociopaths.
More like wannabe sociopaths, they'd probably would just do it for the trend
Lol a cat lady
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hopefully his cult doesn’t get as crazy as the feminist cult
@@pushin_p5871 better than being an Andrew tate fan
In the part where Tate says that you must bear responsibility if you put yourself in a position where you could get sexually abused, he is absolutely wrong. We see victim-blaming like this far too often in questions like, "Well what were you wearing?" The truth is, it doesn't matter what someone is wearing, and even if they were wearing something that is tight, or revealing, if you as an adult man, cannot control yourself, you should not be accepted into society. We shouldn't have to live in a world, where women are scared to wear a piece of clothing because they might get sexually abused.
Those men would assault someone anyway. If clothes trigger them they would have just assaulted someone else.
Unless you paid them to assault someone. It's not your fault.
A friend of mine posted stories on Instagram of her just trying to get home on the public transport after a party. You can see and hear men interrogating her about her name, number, where she lives, if she has a boyfriend. She told every single one that she had a bf and non of them left her alone. It was 4 separate incidents in the single journey home. She then cried on the phone to me how people were replying to her story that she shouldn't have been alone at night, she shouldn't have worm pretty clothes (it was a work party so she wasn't wearing anything "inappropriate") and how if she didn't want them talking to her she should have just said so. As if she doesn't have the right to get home safe and walk around. People are responsible for their behaviour so idk why that line is used to blame victims rather than perpetrators
Thank you! It says more about their self control than anything else ts is sick
What did you do to get yourself assaulted? What caused this? Answer: my assailant caused this. Period. Full stop.
@@tatiana4050 yep. It’s not about attraction and never has been. It’s always about power and control
You know what? I gotta give credit where it's due; thank you Mr Tate for helping women spot creeps 1000% easier. Now women know never to meet any guy supporting his ideas and supporting his cult. See how awful these guys are before ever speaking to any of these monsters!
Remember, this is why it's crucial to support free speech.... Identifying psychopaths and narcissists before they destroy your life.
That’s wht I was thinking. The only postive of this is notice the red flags and leave all those dumb boyfriends that agree 👌🏻
Unironically this. I dated a guy for about 1-2 years and then he started talking about girls in his life like an incel and singing the praises of Andrew Tate and JustPearlyThings, I felt too scared to break things off without a reasonable excuse. My current fiance helped me come up with an excuse and he texted me again recently, I pretended to have changed my number.
He gives such micro peen energy. Anyone who has to constantly proclaim they're a man is the furthest thing from it.
His arguments abt people being catcalled/taken advantage of make as much sense as "you got murdered? Shouldn't have been alive then."
Omg lmao 😂 this honestly couldn’t have said it better!!!
"You got arrested? Shouldn't have been seen by a police officer then." Actually that doesn't make sense for me to say since he deserves to be arrested.
He is actually disgusting. But what is scary is he actually has thousands of men that love him and pay for his subscription thing. All these men that believe AT ideals. That's the really scary part
Thankfully the majority of his followers are teenagers and hopefully most will grow past it. The sad part is the MGTOW and red pill community is still a decent enough size to be a concern.
What disgusting about what he says?
Give me a few examples
Yeah I’m gonna need them to leak those names of the men using his service. If people can leak how much twitch streamers make, they can leak this. It’s more important.
@@chiefkaha5650 everything he says weetheart… everything. I hope you end up seeing past his grift. Praying for you. 😂🙏🏼
I’m genuinely scared of the hate against women rn
It’s reassuring knowing ppl r defending & trying to protect women against men like this
So am I
I am genuinely concerned for all the whamenist hate towards all men, pushing this bullshit idea that all men are potential rapists.
@@redrustyhill2nd this is one of the many reasons why men are starting to follow the tates in their thousands. If you are a straight white male then you are demonised in society and the scapegoat for everything that is wrong. It’s become almost fashionable to hate on them. Then the tates offer them something different and speak to them in a way that they have never been before. You want young males to not go down this path then take some responsibility in the way you are pushing them to it.
@@redrustyhill2 And I am honestly concerned with all the mhales hate towards women, pushing this apeshit that women are objects to be raped.
As a Romanian, as far as I know, Andrew Tate is investigated by Romanian police for many charges related to human traff or SA. As a woman living in Romania, I feel scared for my own safety knowing that this person is living in my country at the moment. I really hope police is going to arrest him or something.
The allegations of him beating or sexually harassing women is false
The woman who was “beaten” actually addressed the whole situation and corrected everyone that it was a s*xplay, not abuse made by Andrew Tate, what you’re not hearing is that he said in his final message that he built an orphanage and a dog shelter to combat stray dog and orphan problems in Romania, because “normal” people won’t clip that, they’ll only clip the out of context and now his meaning behind what he says, like when he says something like “women are property” he really means “men should treat their women like they treat their property, take good care and make sure she’s okay and he wants men to be strong, intelligent and protective to women, but obviously 12-year-old kids don’t get the message and they take masculinity way too far making the idea look bad, and this UA-camr only looked at the negatives, notice how there’s no positives or any videos of tate responding to these allegations, people want to hear both sides to form their own opinion, that doesn’t happen in videos most times because UA-cam and other social media sites will silence the positives of Andrew tate and only leave the negatives, which if realized by the general population, would give the internet CEOs a really bad reputation, you can go watch Andrew Tate’s final message video if you want to find out what he truly means behind what he says in all of his podcasts
@@purpleplays69420 Let's not forget that the biggest dictators of the world were animal lovers and still committed atrocities.
I have Googled about what you said Andrew Tate did as "good" and there are no credible sources about it. You can't convince anyone about his "good intentions" if he himself propagated all the bad stuff on the Internet.
Inabber did a decent investigation about the whole situation and he didn't "just promoted bad stuff about Andrew Tate". He showed proof of everything he was claiming Andrew Tate did. He was also saying when something was strictly his opinion or when something it is just "claimed" and not confirmed.
Also if you say half of your ideas the way Andrew Tate does and then say "oh but he really meant this and and not this" it is stupid to do. You either tell your whole idea completely or don't. Even having these stuff said this way is harming for young boys who have no good role model and they try to understand how to navigate the world. It is not healthy to take advantage of young people/ vulnerable people like this so you can pay your expensive yacht vacation for an instagram post.
Also, claiming that the girl addressed the situation after saying it was just "play" it doesn't proof anything. She might've addressed the situation like this out of fear for what Andrew Tate could do against her. Being a victim of assa*lt is a hard thing to process and every victim of this, regardless of gender, find a hard time coming out and talking about it.
Trying to protect him like this just tells me that you either payed for his University or either you are one of those categories vulnerable and taken advantage of.
Stay safe and look out for better role models.
@@purpleplays69420 What positives does andrew have? He's just a guru scam artist who says the same shit every guru scam artist says, stop praising him so hard, he doesn't do anything revolutionary.
@@purpleplays69420 isn't misinformation banned on here yet? Cute try tho.....
The most I was ever cat-called in my life was disgustingly when I was 13 years old. I didn't have a car and didn't wanna spend all my time getting chaufeured by my mom, so if I wasn't going far, I'd walk. Never dressed revealing, I was 13 and sometimes was even wearing sweatpants and a hoodie.... Just to get whistled, honked, and hollered at by GROWN adult males..... yuck
Same, I was approached by ADULT MEN the most when I was between 14-16. And I was scared every time 😭
I was groped at the train when I was 13. And we were very poor at the time so I really was just wearing jeans and t shirts and hoodies only.
@@tatiana4050 i am so sorry you went through that 😔
@@tatiana4050 beyond sorry that happened to you. Says so much more about the ADULT harassers than it does about us, but grateful we know all that we do for girlies now/ in the future
I got wolf-whistled walking home from work…I was covered in fish from my shift as a sushi chef 🥹 I pretty much ran home
Andrew Tate is basically one of those SA survivor "supporters" that are like "Oh I'm so sorry that happened to you, but *maybe* you shouldn't have put yourself in that situation" as IF people purposely put themselves in a situation where they were taken advantage of because the other party had more power over them.
I mean it's gonna depend on the situation, sometimes personal responsibility does play a role. If you live in a really high crime area and it's 2 in the morning and you decide to take a stroll down a back alley... like yeah, what the fuck do you think was gonna happen. It's like leaving a lambo unlocked in a ghetto. What the fuck do you think was gonna happen.
@@unyieldingmonotony4453 oh yeah, blame someone for living somewhere affordable. It is not the victims fault in any way. The only person who can control the perpetrator's actions is the perpetrator themself.
@@kitsunekarli3548 So if I told you. I left my Bentley unlocked in a ghetto with the highest rates of theft in the country. Your response would only be "That's so terrible, I'm so sorry that happened to you". And that's it, that would be the entirety of your analysis of my situation.
Like I'm sorry, but if you live in a poor, high crime neighborhood and you are walking around back alleys at 2 in the morning you deserve to be robbed and stabbed, Darwinism at it's finest. You should not walk through life as if people aren't absolute disgusting savage animals who would make you suffer just for the fun of it. You have a criminally high opinion of people if that's not the lense in which you view strangers.
@@unyieldingmonotony4453 the only person to blame when someone is attacked is the attacker
Which video he said this in?
As a woman Andrew Tate scares me, as a gay woman he terrifies me.
As a gay trans man, I second this. People like him (if not him, then his followers) are usually big corrective r@pe, either of lesbians or trans men, and that shit scares me a lot.
@@kiralonely yeah, it's the "you're not gay, you just haven't been with the right man" mentality that terrifies me.
@@R0ll3Napper Andrew tate Andrew tate Andrew tate Andrew tate Andrew tate 😨😨
@@rosegold-sc6fp it’s true 🤷♂️. Two women can’t have a baby naturally. Same for men. Not natural
@@rosegold-sc6fp Exactly. Same thing is applied to trans men sometimes too, hence me mentioning that too. Overall, it's the idea that like, "no AFAB person could resist me because AFAB people like AMAB people in reality, and they're just lying to themselves, so I'll open their eyes about it, even if it's against their will". It's highkey horrific that said mindset/opinion/views are even vaguely normalized or as widespread as they are.
Seriously though, stay safe out there. And I apologize if me mentioning trans men shifted the topic a bit, it wasn't my intention to take attention away from lesbians who might be hurt by that mentality, but rather to point out the very similar issue, stemming from p much the same source, that we see with trans men as well.
The fact the these pigs just see someone who they perceive as "attractive" or just see them as "female" in general, then proceed to harass them based on those qualities alone is what scares me when I walk out of my house. I've never been whistled at, I'm on the overweight side, but that never stopped them from harassing me anyway. I had a panic attack from 2 teen boys barking at me while out at the mall with my best friend and I stopped enjoying myself because it made me feel like ripping off my skin. Acosting some random on the street is harassment. It invokes fight or flight and can emotionally devastate someone.
I'm sorry that was long, it's just something I wanted to say. So,
Beans and keep up the good work, Frasier.
Don't insult pigs by comparing them to these impotent oppressive parasitic opportunistic insignificant sub-algae. Pigs deserve better than to be associated with such filth.
so many people dont realize the situations women are actually in when they are assaulted/raped. women that are asleep in their homes and someone breaks in, women who are just trying to put their groceries in their car and gets attacked, women who are in relationships and the partner ends up assaulting them. you can't tell me a woman who is asleep in her own home and gets raped because someone breaks in should "bear the responsibility"? was she wearing too revealing pajamas in the privacy of her own home and now its her fault she gets raped? wtf
As an older gay woman, who has experienced SA, I find AT and his following truly disturbing and dangerous. My 14 yr old nieces have told me some truly horrific things that their male peers have said to them as a direct result of those young men watching AT. I fear not only for my own safety, but the safety of young women everywhere, when this mentality is being hero worshipped and emulated. And for those of you questioning ‘wolf whistling’…yes it is a form of sexual harassment and is unacceptable to, and unwanted by the majority of women
"If you put yourself in that position" Hey Andrew, I was six. The only position I could be in was one my babysitter put me in, buddy
I was 4...how TF was I supposed to prevent my late 20 something step dad and Mom were doing to me...he's so foul.
I was 13 and on a school bus, and when I tried to get away kids were pushing me to the aisle so he can get me again. How tf was that my fucking fault
It's your fault for being six obviously. You should've known better than to be a child while near a p3do...
I was eleven. How was I meant to prevent my grandfather- someone who was close to me and I trusted to not do that to me. I was fourteen. How was I meant to prevent a twenty something drunk women from doing what she did to me. I was sixteen, how was I meant to prevent my boyfriend, who I loved and trusted from doing the things he did to me.
I am so sorry that happened to you. Why can't people like Andrew Tate just go away?
YOU CANNOT RESPECT WOMEN AND LGBTQ+ PPL IF YOU SUPPORT ANDREW TATE
This
Most of his fans are in the closet
fr, and u forgot the g in lgbtq+ btw
They're all homophobic tho, so obviously xd
@@peiithos AH thank u, i was so angry when i was typing i didn’t realize 😭
29:38 Those "tattoos" are ceremonial brands. They are indicators of captivity, not expressions of love. Edit: If twenty-two humans have his name tattooed on their body, convince me Andrew Tate has not trafficked at least twenty-two humans.
I'm old enough to be your mother. But I think you are amazing to speak on this. Being the mother of girls and a wonderful daughter that is transexual. This is something that I really think is very important. We have the absolute same problem in Sweden where I live. This is the awful truth. And it's important to keep the conversation going. Thank you! 🌻
Everything I have learned about Andrew Tate has been against my will, but this video was very well made and very cohesive. Thank you Mr. Nabber
Videos bullying Andrew Tate is my guilty pleasure
A worthy hobby, indeed!
Same but I need a break since it also depresses the hell out of me that so many young kids idolize this guy.
I'm actually afraid to go outside. as an SA survivor, it's ruining my mental health being on the internet, and EVERYWHERE there is misogynistic men. what right do they have to hate us? I'm the one fueled with hatred due to fear.
Dating men actually scares me in this day and age :( we're moving backwards.
@@Stephyay01 I know right :( it's truly heartbreaking
I’m so sorry. I feel scared just as a woman. Also men like this just make it worse.
Yeah I'm actually finding the same. I'm taking regular breaks from the internet and it's really helpful
The fact i know men in my personal life who follow him is scary af.
it’s not just adult men, it’s children he’s influencing. that’s the worst part. it can’t stop and end here without parents understanding that their children will learn about sexism regardless of if they educate them themselves or not.
having age appropriate conversations about sexism is so important because the people who support (or at the very least, don’t hate) Tate don’t usually come to him believing everything he says. but because they were never educated on these topics, they are easily convinced since they think they have to either be on Tate’s wavelength or they’re “woke.”
I’ve been catcalled or have an incident regarding men at least once every year since I was 15. I’ve been photographed without consent. I’ve had to stand between my mom and the harasser because I was scared he would hurt my mom more than him hurting me. Hearing Tate’s rhetoric just brings up those feelings of fear, and it worries me that the normalization of such rhetoric will lead to more and more occurrences of what I’ve experienced and further escalations.
Im so glad you finally talked about andrew and his delusional boyfriends
i did ages ago but no one watched :(
@@iNabber i watched, but glad ur covering again
@@marsdotorg5347 fr
Not plural, he only has one boyfriend, and that's his brother
@@jamilicious5937 ong 😭
like this video straight away folks, there's gonna be a few nutters in the comment section and likes more than usual for this one!
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While this is about the horrible people that are Andrew Tate & his brother, as well as the way they see woman as nothing more than objects for their own pleasure, I would like to point out that not only do woman & those of the LGBTQ+ community sadly have to deal with SA but so do men in some cases. A person regardless of their gender identity or sexuality orientation should never have to go through the trauma of SA & it's people like Andrew & his brother who teach young people that this toxic shit is okay when it 1,000% is never okay
This, one hundred percent. The rhetoric these "Alpha male" influencers push makes men feel even more uncomfortable speaking out about their SA. As a survivor myself, it really sucks to see. Nobody deserves to have their consent violated, and especially be discredited after the fact. Absolutely breaks my heart-
Evil is winning in the world right now... good is being extinguished
Andrew and Tristan would never say in their life that sexual assault/ assaulting a woman is okay. Also, they view chicks they pick up of the street for sex as objects, just like how hookers and gold diggers view men as objects for money. The only difference is that they the tastes do form emotional attachments to girls they want IN their life. The bottom line is that neither Andrew or Tristan would condone sexual assault. And don’t even start with the allegations that have been disproven time after time.
@@kyleb8672 He fled the country because of rape charges, and the Romanian police had to raid his house because he was running a human trafficking ring- and holding minors there against their will. I'm sorry your mom didn't hug you enough, or maybe some girl in the sixth grade didn't like you back- but women are not after your money. They are fearing for their life, and coping from the abuse that is statistically impossible to escape from. Please get a grip on reality, and stop promoting this dangerous behavior. You are putting actual people in danger.
@@Edisius95 Please don't lose hope, we need to keep making people aware and holding them accountable for their actions. I know it's hard, and it feels so stacked against us- but we can do it. If it gets too hard, just take some time and take care of yourself.
Dude’s actually a real life supervillain
as a woman ive had people whistle at me, and it makes me very uncomfortable, first time it happened i was 10 and it made me terrified of wearing shorts and dresses outdoors
The fact that it happened to you at such a young age is really sickening to me.
Really pisses me off when Tate said that the safety of men is threatened. I can't walk outside on my own as a woman because I have to use a cane, and that puts a neon target on my back that screams ASSAULT ME! And since Roe V. Wade has been overturned, I have to be doubly careful.
he wants to be oppressed so badly
Its crazy the context he says it in too. He said the "safety of men is threatened" in the context of SA allegations. What he's actually saying is "Men's ability to take away the safety of women without consequence is being threatened" and honestly that's f-cking disgusting. Roe V. Wade being overturned is the legal "solution" to Tate's "concern" of men's "safety being threatened".
@@seyeon_knee Oh God, when you put it that way, my stomach turns. I can't say you're wrong, though.
Yes, those roaming 'Roe v Wade' gangbangers are everywhere now!!😱😂😂😂😂
@@seyeon_knee sad but true
I'm not sure how someone who says "I'm too smart to read books" can have a serious following.
stupid attracts stupid i guess
And have an actual book about himself.
@@gabbyabbott4965 A booktuber I know actually read and reviewed his book. The book truly is an absolute trash😂😭😭
its genuinley scary to be a young female or feminine presenting person today. its 2022 and it feels like we are back in the witch trial times with some of the awful things said and done to us.
Do you mean 1999, when that movie came out, or 1692 when the Salem Witch trials happened? I mean it sometimes feels like both 🙃
@@Greenteabook yes
Now imagine you say those words to a women who was actually around during those times….
@@Greenteabook god, the women from those times are turning in their graves by your comments. All the issues you have in ur life come from the internet. Making these extreme examples only give the sick ppl like the guy he is talking about their power, they’ll use comments like this, comparing the damn Blair witch trials to being whistled at. God save humanity.
@@Greenteabookdefinitley both sadly🙃
In the 90s , I had this one extreemly great male friend who I could trust with my life. Thank God! No matter what I wore, no matter how drunk I got. He kept baddies at bay and would even take me to a hotel, pay for my room, carry me in and say goodnight. He locked the door and left. He would come back and pick me up to take me home the next morning, with NO expectations except friendship.
You have no idea how many of my female friends envied that. I will be forever grateful to him as long as I live. Unfortunately he was a rarity back then.
People like A.T. need to go back to the stone age where they belong. Their language alone makes me want to vomit and yeet him from the planet.
He has no clue how hard it is to live as a female in this world because of people like him.
Poor Romania.
EDIT: Why can't all humans just be treated like fellow humans?
running from problems like Tate did isnt manly at all, facing problems head on and with brain instead of brawn is way more manly in my opinion, if i do something wrong im owning up to it instead of thinking "alright im going into hiding", one can only run for so long you know, great video iNabber!
The biggest thing to remember when speaking to people under the influence of people like Andrew or other figures seen as leaders is that any form of belittling their beliefs or choices will only make them double down out of shame and fear of being ridiculed. It’s hard not to tell someone who likes these people that they are dumb or being duped but it will be even harder to help them when you do. Instead, talk them through those ideas and beliefs and guide them through the conversation to the fallacies by having them answer the harder questions and truths. Bring up interesting things you read or watched that are informative and suggest it without saying, “Well, this says you’re wrong”. Use instead, “”I saw this really good article about that on this site and I think you would really like it.” Anyways, that’s kind of how I do it, and while it doesn’t end up changing their mind right away, I find it plants those seeds where the person becomes a bit more aware of what they are consuming and how they respond.
Yes, its often the guys who feel belittled and ridiculed by the world who tend to follow these ideologies. Insulting them only serves to feed into their narrative that the world is against them and that they're justified in following Tate and his influences. Talking though it with them is often the best way to make them see a little bit more of reality. It takes several talks at several different times to fully pull them out of this trash ideology, but it can happen and it is possible to help them out. These followers tend to be wholly unaware of how their behavior and words come across in the "standard social environment" so explaining it from the point of view of someone who doesn't understand their thought process will almost never work, as they often feel very "othered" by people who don't understand their thought process. You have to kind of get on their social level and explain it from there for them to understand it better. Also, stating that you're in relationship will not help either lol they will just get more bitter that you've somehow managed to "get a girl" even though you're "putting them down". Talking through things with incels and people who follow Tate is a dangerous path filled with verbal and social landmines.
So I coach a bunch of young kids and some of the 11-13 year old boys were talking about Andrew Tate, saying things like “I love him! He’s hilarious!” And I yelled at them for it. They weren’t aware of all the horrible things he’s done and said they followed him because “what he says is so ridiculous it’s funny!” And they “don’t actually believe what he says” but after explaining why they shouldn’t support this man, they promised me they would stop watching him (don’t know how much I believe that).
Moral of the story it’s scary how young his audience actually is.
lol
That's when you alert their parents and ask if they're aware of who their child is following and watching. That's what a teacher did where I live...so many middle school aged boys (11-13) were being fan boys about him. So she contacted their parents to make them aware of how horrible he is.
@@GingerThereforeNoSoul agreed
They're right about the ridiculous thing.
It could be worse. Those boys would have ended up in schools where they're systematically told that they'd grow up to be monsters that would harm women and young girls, with some of them being shamed for being heterosexual cisgendered males.
I still don't understand how Tate got a big fanbase. The guy is the rich version of Alex Jones
was about to say jones is rich but he isn't anymore 😂
Someone in a stream earlier called him the "Joe Biden of Pickup Artists" and I wet my plants. 😅
@@jasonjacoby that's great 😂😂😂😂
Alex Jones came from an affluent background. And he still has access to his daddy's money since his daddy is involved to some extent in the whole InfoWars lie machine. His daddy bankrolled his first foray into radio, buying advertising for his dental practice in order to secure Alex a job at the radio station. Andy Tatertot and Alex Jones are the same archetype running different grifts that tend to target a very similar demographic.
Hey did y’all hear about Alex Jones having CP in the files his lawyer gave to the judge?
As a romanian all i can say is: please take him back, please.
Told a dude I worked with that wolf whistling any women is harassment and he said it's not so I countered "how would you feel if a guy cat called you" he dead ass said "I don't like dudes, I'd fuck him up" and I said "I don't like dudes either but they cat call me" and he said " that's different, you're a women they assume you like men, it's not harassment it's shooting your shot" and I said the dude was shooting his shot too and the dude got mad and said he's not spelling it out how it's different
The comment about being responsible for being raped has me crying. I have fibromyalgia and my ex recently raped me because I was in too much pain to fight back. Comments like that make me feel like it’ll inevitably happen again and that terrifies me.
Gamer moment. /j
I have Fibromyalgia too and have been raped, I’m sorry you went through that
i’m so sorry. people like andrew shouldn’t be running the internet, let alone not be arrested.
So sorry that happened to you, any decent person won't believe this kind of rubbish from someone obviously mental. It was never your fault.
It wasn't your fault. I'm sorry, I hope you're healing as best you can.
So according to Andrew Tate, it was my fault that I was at my babysitter’s house and her boyfriend took advantage? It was my fault that my cousin happened to be visiting my grandma at the same time I was? It was my fault that a dude unlocked my door and wouldn’t take no for an answer? Wow, I’m learning so much.
Jumping on this! It was totally my fault for being a 4 year old girl existing around my uncle lol. I must have done something over those years to make him SA me lol...
I'm so sorry you went through this. I hope you've been able to find a way to heal.
Yeah, it also was my fault for going to the bus station from school, during the winter (so I was not showing my shapes, being dressed in thick winter clothes). I was 16.
@@Stephyay01 I’m doing okay now. I’m in therapy to work out some of my issues since making jokes about my trauma didn’t seem all that healthy. I hope you’re doing well, also!
Same,it was my fault for going to school I guess 🤡
I am genuinely so glad you covered the harassment part in the way that you did. at my high school, there was a group of boys every day that constantly whistled, winked, and plain up were making gross gestures as jokes with each other every day for the full semester I had that class. I was able to ignore it for a while, but it eventually got to me and had a huge toll on my mental health. Recently I believe I got it almost fully handled, but that's yet to be determined. It's a horrible feeling to have that happen to you, and for a long while I hated and was disgusted with myself for letting it happen, although it was out of my control, even after every time I asked them to stop. Please, never ever do this. Even as a joke. it may affect others on different levels, but overall it's a negative experience for the victim.
For the time I handled it I was too scared to speak up cause I didn't think something at such a 'low level' could qualify as that kind of harassment. Although its mostly handled now, I am always so paranoid that if I were to explain the actions irl to someone, they would just blow it off bc they're 'just joking around'
When he was explaining his “hierarchy”, I almost couldn’t believe he was being serious. he‘s literally so full of himself
Only halfway in and I feel like this man is someone that's like "oh men get r-worded too"
And then leave out the fact the majority of those cases are caused by other men
The first time I got catcalled was when I walking to school in sixth grade, by a group of older men in a pickup truck.
I was 11.
im happy you along with others are covering this horrible excuse for a human being, you always put so much effort and research/thought into what you make so good job and thanks :)
Even Daz games is gonna cover it tomorrow
@@eiri7870 wait really? Huh, this is interesting
Limp
SCHOOL! The answer is I don't go! Why go? I am famous. I am famous. I have more fans than fingers multiplied with toes multiplied with teeth multiplied with ears. I am famous. I am famous. SCHOOL? No, thanks. UA-cam FAME? Yes. Good day, dear rho
Men seem to think yelling at us from cars is complimentary. It is not.
It’s terrifying
my dad had to tell off his coworker for this, this almost 40 year old man couldnt grasp that yelling "nice ass" at a *teenager* from his car wasnt a compliment
I had that happen to me and my little sister because I was dressed to feminine for a guy and a grown ass man literally screamed at me for wearing a pink shirt
@@ghosty6162 that guy sucks. Wear all the skirts you want, nobody should endure harassment
I've been followed home by men so often in my life that I have a long way home that will ensure they'll get tired of following me before they find out where I live... my friends have had to walk me home from rehearsals before when I live less than five minutes away. I don't hate men, but like Fraser said, I struggle to trust men right away. I cross over when I see a group of men coming towards me or hear them behind me. To see men like Andrew Tate become so popular and that others find him funny absolutely terrifies me.
Andrew is so scared of women speaking up 💀
Shout out to the train driver who went out of his way to come in and check on me tonight when he saw I was alone in a carriage with a man acting weird.
Absolute gigachad of a train driver
That's sweet
More of this please! Hope you're ok?
The fact that this man STILL has a following after ALL of the shit he’s done being a free google search away tells me EVERYTHING i need to know about modern day social media🤦🏾♀️😭
Just goes to show ya, if a person finds a reason to be hateful, they were looking for one in the first place.
Look at Nazi Germany
Modern day social media?? You are deepy programmed by this modern day social media you talk about, you said a google search tells you "everything" you need to know about someone why? because the inernet is good at dividing us into groups and setting each group with their own way of thinking and opposite "group" mentalities to hate, united we stand divided we fall
His controversial nature is the reason for his fame. Good or bad publicity are both good for him. You can't expose or cancel him and his haters continue making him as much money as his fans do.
Yes, bad publicity is still publicity and people like this youtuber contribute to it
This guy is absolutely disgusting and so many of his beliefs are so disturbing and quite scary to be honest.
He is like the Morden Hitler
And the people in twitter ranting about
“Killing all men” are heroes?
@@kyleb8672 shut up
@@kyleb8672 stop the whataboutism
@@kyleb8672 No one but you brought that up, so thanks from changing the subject entirely from a serious discussion for no reason?
he rlly said "i'm not a rapist, i just like the idea of being able to rape people without consequences!" like what ???
I've been catcalled on the street since I was 16 years old, and I was almost kidnapped two years ago after rejecting a man's advances. No means no and I'm scared to go out because of assholes like AT
im so sorry, i hope you're doing better now!! 💗
@@HALFNUTCLARITY I'm ok now. I have to take anxiety medication because of my experiences, but it's still really really scary
The thing that makes cat calling scary is that we never know what your intentions are or what you're capable of. You are literally a stranger.
I've had people wolf whistle and then assault me by throwing things at me from their car. How am I supposed to know /you specifically/ won't do that?
Also you don't know how old the person you're cat calling is. I was 14 when it started happening to me.
Its also scary because if you're willing to openly and outwardly sexualize a stranger whose age and life circumstances you don't know, then that shows a complete lack of regard for that person's boundaries. Men (or people in general, but in these cases its mostly men) who have no regard for other people's boundaries tend to be capable of doing horrible things without feeling much regret or responsibility (SA, violence, harassment, stalking, taking advantage of others, statutory, etc), and unfortunately many of them do end up doing those things. It shows a lack of regard for the person's circumstances, age, and boundaries, and thus a lack of regard for the person's humanity. Its gross and creepy and it makes people feel unsafe.
You're totally right, i's not the whistling that's the problem. It's the mindset and the fact that people think it's acceptable to do it. Under what circumstances is it okay to sexualize a stranger to their face in public and feel no shame for that? I, personally, don't think it's okay to do that to anyone at any time in any place. It takes some real audacity to do that, and that audacity leads to other actions that harm women, femme-presenting people, and LGBTQIA+ people (as well as men, but often in different ways).
The scariest moment i had was when a truck full of guys was catcalling me while driving by slowly, then they turned the truck around back again. I thought i was going to be raped....
I was 12.
@@swiftie13 Jesus Christ…..I’m so happy they didn’t harm you. My aunt had a similar thing happen when she was walking home before dawn after work in Mexico in the 90s…a truck w/ several men saw her & turned around ….she bolted & hid in someone’s yard. She came out until they drove off
Actually they do know, and they do it on purpose. i got cat called from 12-16, now I'm 21 i never get cat called at all, and it was almost always in school uniform, so they all knew i had to be 16 or under. Its horrific
So they announced their attraction and THEN attacked you? Is it accurate to call that "incel-y?"
He's a sentient peanut with open car doors for ears.
How is your comment not getting likes? 🤣
That's some raw insult. Bravo
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Lmao
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As someone who has a bf and we've been together for a while we've joked that if he supports tate or any of his ideals that we would need to break up because I wouldn't feel safe. We've had a serious convo once but now we just joke when we see something awful he's done. He's someone who shouldn't have a platform to begin with and shouldn't be a role model for young boys
Sad liar.
Sheesh i hope he breaks up with you, you sound like a lot of work
@@toughcookie250 A lot of work because she wants to feel safe? Okay, Zach. Pretty sure 90% of women would want to be with someone who doesn't believe that we're nothing but servants and sex toys
Yes, I do the same with my boyfriend! and he agrees, tate is a sick person and anyone who agrees with his mindset is a terrible person as well.🤷♀🤦♀ I wish you a happy relationship with your boyfriend!🙂❤
@@toughcookie250 shut up, zack
I use people like tate to fuel my workouts, because I just imagine me beating them to death and it motivates me to go harder so I could *in theory, parody, non-actionable* kill them with my bare hands. (I have gained at least 10kg of muscle since I started doing this so I think it's working)
thats such a good idea.
Same, less get swole 💪
He needs a Tina to his Ike
Keep dreaming, nerd.
As a woman, I have to say this. It's scary when guys threaten murder and violence as retaliation. This isn't the take you think we want to hear :/
The problem with Andrew tate is that even if you disagree you can go "but hm... Some of this makes sense" and then he pulls you in. This is scary.
the fact that i immediately recognized the term "lover boy" when it was mentioned in the video is so sad, as a woman living in romania i had to learn abt these techniques to ""seduce women"" bc its so incredibly rampant here. Someone had to come to our school and speak to us abt it, teaching us to look out for specific signs because a girl who used to learn here was part of a ""seducing women"" ring herself and had to change identities because of it
it's heartbreaking and its disgusting that we have to live like this and people like him still call us all stupid little girls who just lie all the time and no one's doing anything about it! not the police and not the social media places hes infested with his presence bc, as usual, money goes above everything else. no one truly cares about women until everyone does
In the Netherlands there's a movie specifically about the loverboy thing they made us watch in early high school
On wolf whistling, I've found a good way to explain it is, people who think it's not a big deal have typically never seen it escalate or don't realize how often it does. It's the same with unsolicited DMs or a guy asking for my number while I'm in the store or any other "it's not really harassment" moment. I'm just going about my day, living my life, often with my kids, and suddenly some guy will demand my attention. And half of the time I'll say I'm not interested and he'll give me a little smile and say no problem and be on his way and that's fine, I'm not going to say those guys don't exist - those guys are the majority. But then there's the other half. Of that remaining 50%, some will push a little. And of those guys again, about half will back off when I say "seriously, I'm not interested" and that's also fine, can't blame a guy for trying, right? But then there's the other half....
And sure, it might only be 5% of the guys who approach me who end up "really" harassing me, i.e. who get aggressive, assault me, start following me when I leave the store, threaten my kids, etc. and yeah I'd say 5% seems pretty accurate for my personal experience as a very average looking woman in her mid 30s, but let me put that 5% into perspective for you - a large bag of skittles has about 190 sweets in it. If I offered you a sweet, but with the caveat that 10 of those sweets will hurt you in a way that you cannot control or predict, and one of those will put you in the hospital or even kill you... would you eat it? And before you get all sassy saying nothing comes between you and skittles, remember that for this analogy to be accurate, you're not being OFFERED a skittle, you're having a skittle pushed into your mouth while you're at the store with your kids, and you just have to hope it's not a bad one this time.
EXACTLY! Plus, just because it's only a few people doesn't matter because it's enough to make ALL WOMEN SCARED, like yall see the issue? You aren't gonna know if the bug has a disease or not and ya don't wanna risk it.
What a clever person you seem 🖤
Maybe when THEY do it (most guys who participate in this behavior) they genuinely mean it in a completely harmless way and never intend to escalate. When you're on the receiving end of the behavior, you have 0 way to tell which type of guy they are because they behave the same as the ones who escalate.
In regards to the skittle analogy, it's a good one for these types of things tbh. Not really related, but I am someone who LOVES skittles, but I've also have people attempt to shove skittles unwanted into my mouth (the situation wasn't a big deal and it was kids getting a little too rowdy), and even as a skittle lover, having something forced on me was incredibly unpleasant.
Which on second thought, does make it an even better analogy for such attention. Some people may even enjoy attention from time to time, but that doesn't mean they enjoy ALL types of attention ALL the time, and some of that attention will escalate and be harmful.
@@lrose5522 exactly this. I picked skittles 'cause I love skittles and hey I have kids, I've had skittles pushed into my mouth many a time by a well meaning grubby little sugar gremlin, that doesn't mean I want random strangers to start pushing candy in my face on the street. Same with attention from guys - sure, it's nice, it's flattering, it's a compliment, but that doesn't change the fact that said compliment might come with a stalker as the price tag. The fact that I like the compliment doesn't mean want it if there's the uncertainty of what it'll cost me just like how I like skittles but I'm not going to accept a half-melted one from someone's pocket.
The delicious irony of libs using the skittles analogy, that’s amazing. The lack of self awareness 😂😂😂😂
It is horrifying to be a young woman in America right now... with the over turning of roe v wade (a tragedy) and people like the tate brothers spreading their disgusting messages, specifically about SA and harassment of women, America is about to slip into dark times where women’s lives are ruined, taken away from them, forever changed. As a young woman who is very small in size, I rarely leave my home alone for fear that something awful will happen, even when I have lived in relatively safe areas. I fear all men because I do not know what they are capable of or what their intentions are. Until a man proves that they are trustworthy and not a threat, I feel unsafe. That is not to say that there are not good men, but women have a lot to lose to a man who may never face consequences for their actions. SA can ruin someone’s life, man or woman, and it’s heartbreaking to see someone who bought such a huge platform try to discredit those people...
I'm sorry you're so afraid. I strongly recommend getting a scary breed of dog like a Pitt bull or Rottweiler. They will be lovely dogs to you, but they will protect you to the death.
@@FancyRPGCanada I will someday, but for now, it’s impossible for me
You are overreacting.... Nothing has changed from some shitty court case. No one will say "Oh I'm gonna rape women because they can't get an abortion".
As a DV survivor I am more scared of the world now then I was we I was being abused by my partner at the time. The world is 100% a scary place and we are basically heading back to the 70’s with all rights we as women are having taken away.
@@Columbia42 What rights have been taken away from you ? "The world" does not consist solely of the shitty america.
One of these days Tate or his brother will mess with the daughter of the wrong person, like a special forces vet. That person will not be calling the police but taking matters into their own hands.
I know right?! I can't wait to hear they found his body somewhere.
I've seen so many people be like "wElL hE wAs a KiCkBoxEr". This man admits to having a machete in almost every room of his house. He just needs to fall asleep or be distracted and he bleeds like everyone else
@@gabriellemadrid2831 wow you wish death on him? 😅😅😅😅😅
@@javabean4383 I really think he has CTE from being hit in the head too many times. It looks like he's short circuiting when he's expected to have a complex thought, which is why he always sticks to the same rhetoric
Not even that but the shady things he’s involved in in Romania, like they won’t hesitate twice abt offing him 🤷♀️
The fact that most SA cases aren't even reported makes Tate's situation worse. He's only making SA victims experiences worse and it's terribly dangerous.
I'm making this a different comment because this is less important.
The day this was uploaded my art table ended up getting on the topic of Andrew Tate. Four of us all agreed "Tate bad." But this country boy, who's un-needingly stated he's "not homophobic"(which if you have to state that, you might be 👀), said "Well I don't like him....BUT he spit some facts about smoking."
He gives me the creeps and he genuinely scares me.
Thank you for covering him again, means a lot
I fear the return to school, surrounded by young boys who I can confirm worship this man. Along with the fact they frequently objectify women anyway…
No kidding. Our young boys deserve much better role models and shouldn’t be following his example.
Yeah I'm a dude and fear the shit this man has done to my classmates
same, I’m in a engineering class so the girl to boy ratio is pretty scuffed. I’m dreading to hear the things they say
Fraser: How does it feel to not live in you mother's basement at 33 years old?
Me: *Currently lives in my **_grandfather's_** basement, at **_29_** years old* Phew, dodged a bullet there didn't I!
Honestly as someone from a culture where living with your parents forever is normal, don't sweat it. Things in the world aren't great right now and we've all had to make financial decisions. If you want to move out, you'll get there eventually.
I grew up with a dad (kinda, it's complicated) that was basically the boomer version of this dude.
I remember the day he threw my shorts onto the roof before school, shorts that were well within dress code, and dragged me by my hair to the car and then to the school's front door.
I was 12, and he had already begun to teach me that men couldn't control themselves if I wore clothes like that and it'd be my fault entirely.
Now, at 23, he hasn't been in my life for years, but I can't wear anything that even shows my shins because I would have a nervous breakdown
I'm so sorry to hear that. What you wear is never an excuse for people to harm you and your Dad is an asshole.
Yes men can, males can't.
I just wanna have a talk with him 🔫
That is disgusting!
It's not just Tate that needs to go down. Everyone that Is involved with him in social media and sharing his content need to go too.
My earliest memories are of sexual assault…I was under 6 years old when my abuse started…I didn’t have a concept of good or evil outside of like Disney villains…I did nothing to put myself in a position to be sexually assaulted…
I wasn’t dressed provocatively or drunk…
I was wearing Dino tracksuits and watching finding nemo…
i love the mention of joey swol. this man has inspired so many people/men to be better human beings, specifically in gym environments. He’s helped so many people feel comfortable going to the gym and called out people that act like andrew tate.
imagine blaming a car crash victim for driving a car in the first place
He probably would
If Jake Paul Vs Andrew Tate fight happens, I hope Jake knocks him the fuck out. Never thought I'd say that
the fact that incels think women CHOOSING cats over men is an insult to women 🤣🤣🤣
"I moved to romania because their police dont listen to rape victims and I like to do what I want" - not a rapist
I really was losing faith in the male population after seeing Andrew Tates videos and his followers, but you give a glimmer of hope that not all men are like this😊
I wonder how Tate might change his perspective if he got catcalled
Maybe by a few large men
Like the kind fellows in Wednesday Addams vs Catcallers
Just a little group to compliment the former kickboxer.
I've had a random realization. ive been wondering why sexism is one of the only major plights of the world that people are still currently ok with openly and proudly in large numbers, and I'm thinking its because its the only one where the receivers of sexism are just as large in count as the givers, as in everyone that ISNT a man, like half the population, is a receiver, and therefore it doesn't feel like much of an attack by these sexist men because although we're dubbed a minority, we are technically as minority as men are, as in we're not. And so no one feels like the class of "women" is a victimized group where more people outside of it are enough in abundance to fight for it. Ik minority doesn't entirely mean in terms of population, but that's how it all starts with, its starts with population count imo. Regardless of these feelings, day to day life will feel like we are a small minority due to sexism on the streets, at work, social situations, etc that we quietly suffer through, but in broad general conversation where men like Andrew speak about all women, we don't seem like a one. We are too big of a minority for people to give enough of a fuck about basically and now I've never felt more depressed in my life.
I was first catcalled when I was 12. I had just gotten a new dress for church.
My mom and brother support him and I have never felt so unsafe in my household lol
I suggest you move out asap. Stay safe!
Why does your mom, a woman, support him?
My boyfriend is so far gone I can't really try anymore. We fight every other day at this point. The latest was me not accepting him as my leader since I chose him I should trust him to guide our life.. all I said was I see us as a team that brings our toolboxes together. So that was the final flag for me
RUUUUN!!!! RUN NOW! RUN FAST!
You dodged a rocket, not a bullet
Get away hun as fast as you can!
Move onwards and upwards as soon a you can, dont hang around for it to get worse, you deserve better x
He doesn't see you as a person, he sees you as livestock. You probably can already feel this. AT and his followers think that way
I hate how this guys priority was to be in a situation where IF he was accused of r*pe he wouldn't be reprimanded!!
if you've got a big story in your back pocket as to how you can't be at fault for rape you're not okay. You need to reroute your thinking because it's not okay.
You can't go around plotting how you can get out of assault accusations like you plan to spend your pocket money. It's fucked up.
People are special, we are indivuals and every one of us experiences human emotions such as pain and fear in similar ways, whilst still processing it differently. You can't trivialise the human experience. But he has.
I'm actually glad that we have Andrew as a voice for people like that. He's loud and abrasive and is exposing a deeper issue that needs to be discussed. Life is all about exchanging of ideas and I'm glad we have you, Fraser. I respect the hustle of exposing gross people on the daily. It helps shift outrage and disgust into conversation and growth.
p.s. idk who needs to hear this today but listen to ur red flags more often and u will thank yourself later 🙏
Watching this reminded me if the time in college where someone I knew made so less then desirable comments about my body, stuff I had expressed I hated and always avoided due to anything of that nature making me feel grossed out. I was lucky on of my classmates immediately shut it down but the fact they even said those things, whilst I could clearly hear them, made me so uncomfortable and grossed out. I know others have had worse but I thought that me openly stating I hate comments like that and they still did it makes me think that future generations are gonna suffer badly if something isn't done soon
As a Romanian I detest the fact that he lives there. And why? Because Romania doesn’t pay attention to sexual crimes. Also there’s no such thing as an alpha male. That was faulty research based on observing wolves. The alpha was in fact not a male wolf😏