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2023 Ford F250 Tremor Platinum vs 2023 F350 Tremor Lariat MPGs improve from engine break in?
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2023
- #2023superduty #fordtrucks
Interesting results comparing fuel mileage between the two Superduty tremor trucks. Also good to confirm no noticeable difference when comparing the platinum vs lariat in ride quality or the F-250 vs the F-350.
@ 6:28 Weight difference on the rear axles is because those are two different axles. A 3 inch versus a 4 inch tube on your axle.
My understanding was the diesel axle was the same on both Tremors. I will look into this.
@@CTECH-REVIEW The 250 comes with the Sterling 10.5 axle & the 350 comes with the M275 Dana axle.
The main reason for fuel economy difference is engine break in. Diesel are notorious for getting better mpg as they get more miles on them, nice trucks!!
Absolutely correct
Your truck is broken in already so it gets better mileage.... good video 👍
Thanks 👍
Nicely done. Was hoping you’d show the rear leaf springs in both the 250 and 350. Payload stickers seam to be just for legal reasons. Each truck also runs the exact same tire. E - load, 4080# max load rating with max PSI of 80.
I spent 30 minutes under both trucks compairing...leaf packs, axles look identical from the F250 vs the F350 Tremor diesel. I am wondering if the only difference is the tire pressure that changes the load rating on rear axle.
@@CTECH-REVIEWthe F250 and F350 Tremors are identical from a component perspective, at least on the ‘20-22’s they were.
I’m thinking of getting a F-350 with the standard 6.7 powerstroke. Nice to know it gets such great fuel mileage. I honestly was thinking it would be closer to 10 than 20.
Is there a gear ratio diff between the 2? Could that have any affect on MPG?
It know with the pre 23’s, the only difference between the 250 and 350 tremors was the sticker on the door. With a huge camper, we needed the legal increase in GVWR. Given your feedback, seems like the 23s must have followed the same formula.
Tonneau cover probably gained .5mgp and the broken in probably the rest.
Tire pressure is the difference i believe suspension is the same. Some states have higher registration taxes insurance f350s. Its a loophole for people on the ranch to not have to pay more but still have the same capabilities. Atleast thats what a ford tech told me and looking under them there identical only tire psi and sticker difference.
Thank you for watching, good to know!
Get the camper package on the f350. 12,400#
Front axle 5990
Rear axle 7230
(Actually - 13,220) SRW crew cab lariat
And what’s the payload
250 vs 350 Tremor have same exact suspension, the only difference is the door sticker. That's what keeps you legal and in some states a 350 is considered Commercial and can run much higher on insurance. If you live in one of those states and don't need more than the 2900-3200lb payload the 250 affords you then the 350 isn't worth it. If you don't care about being "legal" or overweight in the event of an accident then the 250 will perform like the 350, it simply won't be doing it legally.
Good to know! Thank you for watching!
Interesting. My F350 CC SWB with Black App Pkg and HO diesel has a Front GAWR of 5600 and a GVWR of 12000. Wonder what caused difference?
I think its part of the Tremor package vs non tremor package!? Thats all I can understand. Thanks for watching!
@@CTECH-REVIEW As a licensed Mechanical Engineer it is the gearing. The bed cover may be a very small part of it but generally they are designed for that and leaving the tailgate down does not help MPG. The best answer is, to me, gearing AND the power train is getting broken in. Things too tight the first 5k to 10k.
Where is your shop located
Could be the gear ratio
Both are 3.55
Rear end gear ratio is going to be different.
Thanks for watching! for the Tremor Diesel they only offer 1 gear ratio optio 3.55s.
@@CTECH-REVIEW don't wanna be that guy but if u go and built ur truck it shows different rear end ratios I just checked on ford's website
@@marksrepairj623 Yes thats true, but when you select the tremor option it automatically defaults it to 3.55 gears for the HO diesel or 4.30 gears for the 7.3l gas. No other axle ratios are available on the tremor Superduty.
You can order the tremor f250 max tow which is f350 suspension and parts
My platinum is the best truck I've ever had, quietest cab, no road noise, no cab noise and the smoothest, most comfortable ride, like riding on the softest seats
Tremor package still have the front LSD ?
Thank you for watching, yes they do for 2023!
Diesels get better mileage once they loosen up and all the internals break in and settle into place.
I have had dozens of diesels but never been able to do a back to back like this before, it sure seems like its a good sized impact.
The only difference in the F250 and the F350 is a single leaf in the leaf pack.
Not with the Tremor. They have the same suspension pack in the rear. TREMOR ONLY.
@@gordonm928You are not right on that according to the door sticker and you can see that the over load leaf spring is there in other F350 Tremor videos. In addition to all that there would be no such thing as a F350 Tremor then, it would only be offered as a F250 Tremor if you were right and the suspension was the same.
@Captain-Awesome Nope you are not correct. You can go to the Tremor Forum if you need further and multiple confirmations. The F250 and F350 Tremors are identical. TREMORS ONLY.
Different rearend, brakes, suspension is a little heavier and in increase in insurance premiums in a lot of states,
I would never get a Tremor for the simple fact that you can't get it with a long bed, and the long bed gives you the 48 gallon fuel tank.
Dude I so wish they made a long bed tremor. That 48 gallon tank would be clutch!
@@CTECH-REVIEWthey're kidding themselves if they think the longer wheelbase making it worse for off roading matters, no one is doing serious off roading in an 8k lbs HD truck lol we just like the lift and the look.
Look up S&B 60gal tank. Fits on short beds.
The rear axle isn’t derated on the 250. They have difference use cases. The rear axle, spring rate and shocks are also difference. So is the subframe. In addition to the GWVR, the tow rating is different. Plus the payload over 4000 lbs which on the 350 can tow a 5th wheel. You didn’t talk about the rear axle ratio either. The 250 will tow 20,000 lbs and the 350 27,000 lbs. huge differences. Besides, your talking tremors. But on the standard super duty trucks, there are more differences
The difference between F-250 and F-350 Tremor is the door sticker and fender badge.
What's your opinion on towing 11,000 pound skid steer with 5,000 pound trailer behind Tremor F350 7.3 Godzilla with the 4.30 gears? Tires are noisy I hear, which is tough for making business calls all day. I might just go get a regular F350 XL STX , 7.3 Gasser with the 33 inch street tires and 3:73 gears. Street tire or less aggressive quieter All Terrain Tires in 35 inch for the Tremor seem to be hard to find.
@@jonathanbeam6898gasser vs. diesel for a skid-steer is a coin toss. Both would do it. If your towing it in the highway, downgrades or for lengthy distances, I’d do the 6.7 as that load is above 60%. Add passengers, tools or payload, that’s in 6.7 territory all day especially with the said conditions. Regarding the tire noise. Those tremor tires are notorious for noise. Get you some nitto grapplers, or TOYO COUNTRY AT3s and that will solve that right there. There are plenty more quiet options.
@@dundonrl Correct.
It is old news that they are identical, from both Ford engineers and from actual Tremor owners doing the work of matching part numbers. The F250 and F350 Tremors are identical. TREMORS ONLY...
Where have you been all this time? Since 2020, Superduty tremors have been confirmed to have an identical, no difference suspension between F250 and F350 tremor models. The only difference is in the sticker, nothing else. You’re kinda 4 years late with your comparison.
No offense, i like your videos, but this one is nothing new.
Lol ! 😂😂 that is NOT what the door sticker says. I will stick with what the manufacturer states instead of what a bunch of keyboard jockeys say.😂😂
@@armedprophet3321what are you even talking about? It’s the same exact truck, same exact components, F250 is just derated for registration reasons. GVWR 11,000 vs 12,000. You’re the keyboard jockey uninformed clown here.
@@armedprophet3321 Couldn't agree more.
Well I had a 2020 F350 (non tremor) and was looking into this back then, but I dont understand why they derate the rear axle on the F250...they could have kept it the same as the F350 and still had the F250 have the lower payload rating. It makes me wonder if there is something different internally or is it possibly a spring rate change that we cant see...or is it as simply as Ford just dropped air pressure on rear tires thus the GAWR drops. I dont know.
@@CTECH-REVIEW mechanically the F250 and F350 are identical for the Tremor packaged models, folks get the F350 for the extra legal payload. It’s a well known fact now since 2020 when the tremor model came out first. The only difference are the badges and the stickers. Very surprised this is still not understood by many. SD Fordtremor forum has MANY threads in this topic with plenty of supporting evidence presented.
Holy cow. The time youve wasted wottying about the panel squeak😂😂😂 i would suggest buying a bmw next. NO american car made by lazy incompetent bad attitude uaw workers are going to make quality
Thanks for watching, haha ya that rattle really annoyed me! Its all good! If BMW made a 1 ton diesel I couldn't imagine the amount of oil leaks and coolant leaks in my driveway!
@@CTECH-REVIEW Half my clients drive BMW's, Audis, Mercedes and they fall apart after about 6-8 years. My neighbor has had her Audi in the shop 4 times this year with 30,000 miles on it. As a reference my Chevy Diesel truck, 2007...has had a new transmission coolant line, glow plugs and a steering stabilizer installed. Absolutley nothing else has broken or needed replacing in 15 years since I bougth it new. 103,000 miles. Not bad for american engineering.