Sony is at the top of the heap for innovation in cameras the past five years... with focus peaking/facial recognition/EVF focus magnification/wifi/apps for camera/full-frame in small body/e-mount that facilitates using every brand of lens on the camera mount... something that can't be said for Canon or Nikon... though it can be said for Panasonic, Olympus and FujiFilm.
Sony is making a lot of great cameras. But I feel the heart of Minolta is what is really making these cameras what they are. It wasn't until Sony bought the Minolta line of camera did Sony start making better cameras.
Yey! All the great thing Sony gave photography: face recognition, wifi, apps... Don't take me wrong. It's very good, that we have a company like Sony, that is HUGE and can pump lots of money into R&D (and easily buy technology from specialist manufacturers like Minolta or Tamron). In reality, you'll buy a new body every few years, so for most of the time it will be outdated. That's why you want it to be solid, refined, well thought and nice to live with, because these characteristics age much slower than sensor technology and other gizmos. And that's what Canon and Nikon are really good at. That said, Sony's cameras are rather disappointing. Konica Minolta was just as much innovative, but also managed to compete with N and C in all market segments.
I am not disappointed with my Sony cameras at all. It's my experience that those voices that are the most vocal about their disappointment with Sony cameras simply haven't used one long enough to give it a fair chance. A camera like the Sony RX1R is almost perfect in many regard as a street camera. The ability of the full-frame A7 series to adapt any other manufacturer lens for use on the body is superbly helpful for everything except sports photography. Kodak made the mistake of resting on past accolades until it was simply too late. What ground-breaking innovation has Canon or Nikon come out with the past four years in their DSLR or mirrorless cameras?
mp4podcastDOTcom Thats because Sony _is_ Minolta. Afaik the same people design/calculate the optical formula for the lenses, the same people working in the factory producing lenses and so on. Sony bought Minolta completely with everything. The only difference is that Sony only creates G-Lenses and special lenses (like Fish-Eye) themselve, most lenses these days get designed by Zeiss and only built by Sony. But but the 24/36 Megapixel Time you really need such high-class lenses Minolta wasnt able to built.
I am no camera expert but Kai kept going in and out of focus through the entire video. that is not a good sign for a new DSLR with continuous auto focus...
All DSLR are like that when it's comes to video. Large sensor = less in focus = easily get out of focus. And on top of that they haven't invented a camera that could read our mind to know where we want to focus.
It's a SLT, not a DSLR ;)... but I am not sure whether Lok used autofocus, maybe he used manual focus, as he is used to that. Then it's not the cameras fault. But if he used AF he still might have set it incorrectly. The camera actually follows faces - if you tell it to. If you do not use that function or use the wrong autofocus points, the camera is not to blame here. I doubt that Lok is capable of configuring these Sony specific options correctly, as he is used to his clappy mirror 5D ;)...
If you don't know of certain Features and Tools and just use it like you use any other cameras, no... You forget one thing: when you are used to a specific way to work, you do get blind. You just go the way you are used to, and are used to for example a certain turn will make the focus go in a specific distance. Lok is a human, and humans are lazy when they are used to one (for them working) way ;)...
You probably dont give a shit but if you guys are stoned like me during the covid times you can watch all the new movies on instaflixxer. Have been watching with my gf these days =)
I agree with Kai in some points but 1- A77 was sold for nearly 2000$ in 2011 (I paid ~2200$ in 2012 in Turkey), A77 Mark II is 1200-1650$ (depends on country) so yes there is less improvements but price is less too... 2- I've watched several focusing videos, 12fps mode case, looked at pictures etc (search on youtube), focusing is astonishingly fast, accurate, 79 points is just perfect, I really sometimes have focusing problems with my A77 (biggest problem), so it is huge improvement for me. 3- Kai used the machine with one of the entry lens 50mm f1.8, generally A77 and A77 Mk II are sold with 16-50mm lens set, that would be better review if they had 16-50mm lens. 4- Why not 24 Mp been improved? Because it is still very good resolution what did you expect a 36MP APS-C camera? Conclusion; A77 was an improved camera with respect to D7000 and 70D, Improving an improved camera can be no more than that Mk II :)
He doesn't the SLT series was just trash marketed on Gimmicky feel good propaganda for overindulgent smartphone infant types because it had no real legs to stand on. Not even the Zeiss glass was able to save the "Windows Phone" type of a mistake of a camera Series. After Sony released a real camera like the a7 and a9 series all was well.
I wanted to write that it is the worts review i have ever seen, but that would imply it actually was a review. Unfortunately making fun of "high shoulders" appearance of the camera and whining about it being not exciting doesn't do it. Not 30s in this video about actual image quality, dynamic range, sharpness of the images etc. What a wasted time :/
+DigitalRev It seems that this hate for sony cameras continue. Ever since then review of the a 77, most of the Sony camera reviews have been completely negative in my opinion bias on this channel. We reviewed the Sony a 77 you used the Sony 16-50mm 2.8 lens. Which is considered one of the best lenses to be produced by Sony. Instead you decided to review the new a 77 Mark II with the cheap quality 50mm 1.4 or 1.8 lens. To be perfectly honest the a 77 Mark II and the review that you did of being a 99 should have been done with one of Sony's top quality lenses. Sony has a wide variety of G series lenses exhibit looked at or one of Sony's amazing Carl Zeiss lenses. Personally, the a 99 should have been reviewed with the Carl Zeiss24-70 2.8. I understand that most photographers use either Canon or Nikon cameras. But if you're going to do a fair review just like with Canon and Nikon cameras you should use the top quality lenses that are offered.
I have an a99 and I still remember their review using the cheapest 50mm lens on the market, yet they stick high end lenses on their canon and Nikon review cameras, even their cheap consumer models.
MrJimmy2773 Thanks for your comment.I though I was the only person who has an issue with DRTV sony reviews. I have an a99 as well. If they use the 50mm 1.4za lens then the review I think would be more fair.
To this day, it's still the best crop sensor camera ever made, just lacks 4k video. I bought an A7Rii last year to make my A77ii as a back camera and ended up in making the A7Rii as a backup camera. Speed and FPS on A7Rii fails me all the time, missing many great shots especially with slow shutter and being 42mp, it sucks all the time if not paired with best glass out there and it's super costly to keep buying GM lenses.. I have achieved as good quality as full frame shots with A77ii even with old Minolta glass especially 28-135 and 19-35 and also the APS-C Sony 55-300 lens is very comparable to the 100-400 GM for just $100 on ebay. This is important to take into account.
I ignored some of the criticism in this review and bought an A77II anyway, I'm glad I did. The AF system in this camera makes it an INSANE monster of an autofocusing beast, and the Lock-on AF Flexible Spot is an incredible feature, I really wish this review made more emphasis on it since while being a small update from the A77 on paper, it has a revolutionary focusing system for it's class and a massive buffer. Also, the "Lag" when changing settings is mildly noticeable on the LCD display but not present in the EVF, the camera is quite responsive and this is really a non-issue. If you want something real to pick at on this, poke at it's battery life. In the end it'd be nice to see a 2 or 3 way comparison review between A77II, D7100 and 70D, see how they stack up. Cheers.
this guys is detrimental to digital rev, they need a a reviewer thats un-bias, technical and a decent photographer. Plenty around im sure as for the camera i had the honor to take it home over the week end and its an absolute delight.. currently im comparing it to my wifes 1Dmk4 and the 5Dmk3 at a mountain bike event, in terms of auto focus the 77 in certainly up above the pro 1d4 and in terms of imagery, better colour depth and dynamic range than both canon cameras. Hats of to sony.
He is using manual focus here - autofocus would have probably done a better job!! ;) Two things... 1. The lens he used has a tiny manual focus ring & a very short focus throw. It is not at all optimised for manual focusing. Far & away harder to manual focus than the lenses Lok is probably used to... 2. The direction to turn the focusing ring on the lens is probably different to what Lok is used to. When I switched to Sony a lot of my focusing looked like that as the majority of their lenses focus in the opposite direction to what I was used to.
Iv been following DigitalRev for a long time. Great show and and mostly always one of the first to get new camera reviews out. But Kai cmon ... sometimes you have a negative vibe when u start the review, like ur mom shouted at you and made you do the review. It then seems like ur biased and thats not a sign of a good reviewer. This review wasnt so clear because u were always like "meh whatever, i dont care". For example, u completely forgot to emphasize on the increase in burst shot buffer ... which actually makes the 12fps mode usable unlike the original a77 ... i believe it is a good camera, not as dull as u make it seem ... great joke with the coffee thing though.
and a77ii is cheaper than the original a77 at the time of release. The only thing Im disappointed in is the lack of 4k video and the supposed discontinuation of the a65 (no a65ii) because to me that was the best slt in terms of size/features/price ratio.
'Nespresso' won't make you coffee. The 'N' means NFC (Near Field Communication) and it means that the camera has a tiny chip inside. When you tap that chip with your Android phone/tablet (also equipped with NFC) it will establish a secure WiFi or Bluetooth connection to share your pictures. This also works well with the ***** QX10 and QX100, and in the future it will enable you to pay your $9 ice cream with it, but Kai will never be able to enjoy any of this since he is still using an iPhone.
I know people who have this camera and are raving about it. From the first minute of this video it is plain that he either dislikes the camera or Sony or, as a lot of people are saying, his company are sponsored by either Canon or Nikon in much the same way Camera Magazines are. Sad, as it's a great camera and I just wish reviewers could give an honest unbiased opinion.
Kai just hates the Sony SLTs...for no reason. I'm not just saying that. It's in the video. There was not a single major downside with this camera stated. It just didn't have enough improvements for him. Still, Sony is using a brand new sensor and chip. Canon can use the same exact sensor for 4 models of cameras in a row, and we won't hear that from Kai. As for image quality, DXOMark, the leader in camera tests, gave the image quality of the A77II a rating of 82, and its Canon competitor, the 70D a rating of 68. And these scores come from actual scientific color depth, dynamic range, and ISO tests...instead of unqualified personal biases, as with DRTV videos. (And full disclosure, the camera that I currently use is a Canon and I love it.) So OK guys, stay away from the A77II because it looks "hunched over" (even though I like the design more).
What is with the stabilization glitching. The stabilization on the cheaper cameras such as the t3i and even many point and shoot cameras perform far better. It would have been better to just keep it off. shaky cam is less noticeable when the entire frame shakes in an expected way, but when the stabilization is only keeping up with the major/ slower shapes but suffering from bounce back when countering the smaller and more rapid shakes, then it makes the whole issue more noticeable.
Mattias Burling Yep, it is done in the lens and it works far better than what the A77 II was doing in the video. The sony camera has a bunch of bounceback when it tries to correct the more rapid movements e.g, when when walking and the vibration from stepping gets transferred to the camera, the lens stabilization largely just ignores the vibrations that it cannot deal with. but the sony seems to take those vibrations and make them more noticeable by adding to them. (the sony seems to overcorrect or miss the vibration and end up amplifying it) Think of it as noise canceling for audio, if the noise canceling circuitry is even a little out of sync, it amplifies the noise.
It doesnt work that great in any of them imo. The best stabilization is in the Olympus EM5 but that isnt verry good for video so my suggestion is to use a tripod.
Razor2048 Sony's image stabilization is done in the camera body, which means lenses are more affordable all around. You might be referring to the kit lens that comes with the T3i, which does in fact have image stabilization. If you end up purchasing L lenses, such as the 70-200 f2.8, you'll notice the price difference between the IS version and non-IS is about $1000. While the Sony's sensor-shift technology isn't the greatest for video, for shooting photos there's not much difference from my experience. With the exception of maybe the A7S, GH4, and BMPCC, Canon will have a leg up in the amateur video production world for a long time to come.
Kind a lot of nitpicking action going on here to be honest. Yes I really don't like the video quality that much with all of that stuttering from the OIS going on there but the pictures look really good in my opinion. And most of the stuff that was criticized is not really that bad.
It's a camera that shoots 12 FPS, 24MP, good autofocus in camera mode, and is affordable. If you're looking for a camera that's not going to break the bank and lens selection isn't a big deal to you, go for it.
Price point, it's excellent. I know it wouldn't work for me because I have too much invested in Nikon Speedlights, but I seriously think that Nikon has been going downhill lately. We'll see with the D800 replacement.
Jonathan D. Lopez Yes, that is exactly what I think. Heck, the A57 has been the number one camera for under 1000 bucks for months on almost all review sites when it came out. So the A77 can't be that bad since it is supposed to be even better than the A57.
Boy am I glad I bought a Pentax K-3, you know the one, the best current APS-C camera for sale at the moment, And I really loved your review of the K-3??? Oh wait a minute it's been out for nearly a year and still no review, So I take it you love Sony a whole lot more........
The video looked way worse than the other videos you have made, but the autofocus in photo mode and the tilt screen were good selling points. I think if the camera was Nikon-made, Kai would have been ecstatic when saying 12FPS! IDK, seems like a big deal to me, just sucks that there is only 1 SD slot.
Lok is right, rather use a GH4 or the usual 5Dmk.3 for video.....the A77 II image stabilization seems meh and the AF seems unable to catch up Kai when walking.....
How does the a77ii compare to the a6000? I'm interested in both photography and video so could any owner of the a77ii give me some advice? The video also needs to be better than the a6000, or at least on par. I want good video with very gradable footage
People always complain about autofocus even when its not yet invented for video. Not even canons $5000 video cameras or any camera for that matter have an autofocus worthy of using for anything accept home movies. But with that said, the camera seemed pretty bad at most things.
The dynamic range seems a bit better. But over all it's the same camera with a new sensor and processor. I don't see the advantage of buying this over the old one, which is pretty cheap now.
Is the GH4 really that much better for run-n'-gun video? I thought it had a hard time hunting for focus too. Surprising that the A77mk2's phase detection did not work so well - worse than the GH4's contrast detection autofocus? Usually PDA words better than CDA I thought, like on a Canon 70D which would be great for video save for the moire/aliasing - wonder how the A77mk2 compares in that way too.
Not sure who's paying this guy, but SONY's entry DSLR equivalents and their semi-pro equivalents blow away the competition. I'll never go back to Canon after using SLT's now for nearly five years. The a57 has given me the best photo's I've ever taken. Hoping to upgrade to this a77MKII this year. SONY's SLT's have features which are light years ahead of the competition and deliver outstanding jpeg quality too. If this chap doesn't like SONY stuff, then he should simply stop reviewing them.
I am sure that there are quite some autofocus tests on other UA-cam channels :)... DigitalRevTV is more about Comedy mixed with camera reviewing, as for actual tests.
The focus in video shooting is not good as the 5D that you use all time ,, i think sony must improve this dslr more than this way ,, BTW nice haircut kai W
DigitalRev DigitalRev TV given the fact that I rarely shot videos and I do mainly street and landscape photography.. Would you suggest to buy a a6000 or this a77II? I would need to stick on Sony since I do have already few lenses. Thank you for the eventual feedback. Would be very much appreciated :)
The fact it only comes with a single SD slot should be a HUGE selling point on this camera. Sony finally steering away from there own proprietary memory cards.
i now know you can't get autofocus in manual movie mode but what about in aperture priority mode??? I'm thinking about this for an upgrade & change from a d300
A77-II? I wonder if they are going to do a "pentax" (k5-II) and this is going to be replaced pretty soon with an all-new all-better model... A78 or whatever they might call it, after all they changed NEX to Axxxx already.
he never does the test for long expose, I would love to see the long expose at night time for A77ii . coz I am still curious about if the noise has been improved from A77
Cheers to someone finally pushing an APS-C camera up to ISO 51,600 ... Now that some have finally caught up, Pentax-Ricoh can pull further ahead... Again. :)
i shoot with sony, canon and nikon bodies and they are all great cameras that give excellent results, however my sony SLT A mount camera bodies have two major features that lead the pack, first the Electronic viewfinder that allows you to see the finished product before you actually shoot the image which opens the door for many many other features and second is the body stabilization...........i shoot for pleasure....
I don't like this came, because I shot a lot of short film, I use AF a lot but based on this video I can see there are too much neck when it focuses. I still stick with the 70d (best camera for beginner film maker.
As i read the comments here, it seems like the people make him more of a fanboy than he actually is. In fact he liked the "White Magic" (that really sounds.... yeah... porno :D), he didnt ranted about removed GPS (like most Sony Fanboys did), he made good joke about useless Nespresso Feature. But the most important feature is (beside the enhanced sensor (which really is an good reason to buy this if you own the a77)) is the new AF System and he said its fast, accurate and there are a insane lot of dots. And they also said noise is low up until 6400 (where 1600 was the limit on the a77 afaik) About the Video Quality well, he is right. Using the AVCHD Codec is for consumers and that is what you get, consumer Image Quality. The videos look much better in 50p/60p, also the IBIS lagg we see here is not there when using 50/60p but in the end, you can use the uncompressed HDMI Output for professional recording (or better, use an a99 which is _much_ better in Terms of Video). So i cant see a real rant here, hes just making more brand jokes than usual and maybe he could be a bit more exited. He was serious when saying the new AF-System is good, but he sounded like its sarcastic, but i think thats his Sony voice. Maybe its something he was born with :D
it seems he does not like sony products.
I liked that camera.
He liked the Sony A7 a lot.
No camera conservatives/snobs like sony stuff there brainwashed on the Nikon/Canon profit margins that camera retailers like.
no, you can't say he doesn't like Sony. Watch his A7 and A7R review video and I'm sure he doesn't like Olympus =) watch his OMD1 video.
He seems to think they're pretty decent from the reviews.
Me neither.
Sony is at the top of the heap for innovation in cameras the past five years... with focus peaking/facial recognition/EVF focus magnification/wifi/apps for camera/full-frame in small body/e-mount that facilitates using every brand of lens on the camera mount...
something that can't be said for Canon or Nikon... though it can be said for Panasonic, Olympus and FujiFilm.
Sony is making a lot of great cameras. But I feel the heart of Minolta is what is really making these cameras what they are. It wasn't until Sony bought the Minolta line of camera did Sony start making better cameras.
Yey! All the great thing Sony gave photography: face recognition, wifi, apps...
Don't take me wrong. It's very good, that we have a company like Sony, that is HUGE and can pump lots of money into R&D (and easily buy technology from specialist manufacturers like Minolta or Tamron).
In reality, you'll buy a new body every few years, so for most of the time it will be outdated. That's why you want it to be solid, refined, well thought and nice to live with, because these characteristics age much slower than sensor technology and other gizmos. And that's what Canon and Nikon are really good at.
That said, Sony's cameras are rather disappointing. Konica Minolta was just as much innovative, but also managed to compete with N and C in all market segments.
I am not disappointed with my Sony cameras at all.
It's my experience that those voices that are the most vocal about their disappointment with Sony cameras simply haven't used one long enough to give it a fair chance.
A camera like the Sony RX1R is almost perfect in many regard as a street camera. The ability of the full-frame A7 series to adapt any other manufacturer lens for use on the body is superbly helpful for everything except sports photography.
Kodak made the mistake of resting on past accolades until it was simply too late. What ground-breaking innovation has Canon or Nikon come out with the past four years in their DSLR or mirrorless cameras?
don't forget the hotshoe.
mp4podcastDOTcom Thats because Sony _is_ Minolta. Afaik the same people design/calculate the optical formula for the lenses, the same people working in the factory producing lenses and so on.
Sony bought Minolta completely with everything.
The only difference is that Sony only creates G-Lenses and special lenses (like Fish-Eye) themselve, most lenses these days get designed by Zeiss and only built by Sony. But but the 24/36 Megapixel Time you really need such high-class lenses Minolta wasnt able to built.
I am no camera expert but Kai kept going in and out of focus through the entire video. that is not a good sign for a new DSLR with continuous auto focus...
All DSLR are like that when it's comes to video. Large sensor = less in focus = easily get out of focus. And on top of that they haven't invented a camera that could read our mind to know where we want to focus.
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ok, but usually their videos are great with focus and Kai is almost always in focus. so why the difference?
It's a SLT, not a DSLR ;)... but I am not sure whether Lok used autofocus, maybe he used manual focus, as he is used to that. Then it's not the cameras fault. But if he used AF he still might have set it incorrectly. The camera actually follows faces - if you tell it to. If you do not use that function or use the wrong autofocus points, the camera is not to blame here. I doubt that Lok is capable of configuring these Sony specific options correctly, as he is used to his clappy mirror 5D ;)...
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Lok handles camera equipment all day everyday, if he can't figure it out it seems to me like a tough camera to set up.
If you don't know of certain Features and Tools and just use it like you use any other cameras, no...
You forget one thing: when you are used to a specific way to work, you do get blind. You just go the way you are used to, and are used to for example a certain turn will make the focus go in a specific distance.
Lok is a human, and humans are lazy when they are used to one (for them working) way ;)...
I just love his voice! ♥
You probably dont give a shit but if you guys are stoned like me during the covid times you can watch all the new movies on instaflixxer. Have been watching with my gf these days =)
@Kelvin Patrick yea, I've been watching on instaflixxer for months myself =)
I agree with Kai in some points but
1- A77 was sold for nearly 2000$ in 2011 (I paid ~2200$ in 2012 in Turkey), A77 Mark II is 1200-1650$ (depends on country) so yes there is less improvements but price is less too...
2- I've watched several focusing videos, 12fps mode case, looked at pictures etc (search on youtube), focusing is astonishingly fast, accurate, 79 points is just perfect, I really sometimes have focusing problems with my A77 (biggest problem), so it is huge improvement for me.
3- Kai used the machine with one of the entry lens 50mm f1.8, generally A77 and A77 Mk II are sold with 16-50mm lens set, that would be better review if they had 16-50mm lens.
4- Why not 24 Mp been improved? Because it is still very good resolution what did you expect a 36MP APS-C camera?
Conclusion; A77 was an improved camera with respect to D7000 and 70D, Improving an improved camera can be no more than that Mk II :)
that boy still hates Sony.
He doesn't the SLT series was just trash marketed on Gimmicky feel good propaganda for overindulgent smartphone infant types because it had no real legs to stand on. Not even the Zeiss glass was able to save the "Windows Phone" type of a mistake of a camera Series. After Sony released a real camera like the a7 and a9 series all was well.
i hate his volcano nose
I wanted to write that it is the worts review i have ever seen, but that would imply it actually was a review. Unfortunately making fun of "high shoulders" appearance of the camera and whining about it being not exciting doesn't do it. Not 30s in this video about actual image quality, dynamic range, sharpness of the images etc. What a wasted time :/
if they started to do that kind of review, couldn't say that sony's camera was a crap as they makes it looks like..
really was a waste of time ...
+DigitalRev It seems that this hate for sony cameras continue. Ever since then review of the a 77, most of the Sony camera reviews have been completely negative in my opinion bias on this channel. We reviewed the Sony a 77 you used the Sony 16-50mm 2.8 lens. Which is considered one of the best lenses to be produced by Sony. Instead you decided to review the new a 77 Mark II with the cheap quality 50mm 1.4 or 1.8 lens. To be perfectly honest the a 77 Mark II and the review that you did of being a 99 should have been done with one of Sony's top quality lenses. Sony has a wide variety of G series lenses exhibit looked at or one of Sony's amazing Carl Zeiss lenses. Personally, the a 99 should have been reviewed with the Carl Zeiss24-70 2.8.
I understand that most photographers use either Canon or Nikon cameras. But if you're going to do a fair review just like with Canon and Nikon cameras you should use the top quality lenses that are offered.
I have an a99 and I still remember their review using the cheapest 50mm lens on the market, yet they stick high end lenses on their canon and Nikon review cameras, even their cheap consumer models.
MrJimmy2773 Thanks for your comment.I though I was the only person who has an issue with DRTV sony reviews. I have an a99 as well. If they use the 50mm 1.4za lens then the review I think would be more fair.
To this day, it's still the best crop sensor camera ever made, just lacks 4k video. I bought an A7Rii last year to make my A77ii as a back camera and ended up in making the A7Rii as a backup camera. Speed and FPS on A7Rii fails me all the time, missing many great shots especially with slow shutter and being 42mp, it sucks all the time if not paired with best glass out there and it's super costly to keep buying GM lenses.. I have achieved as good quality as full frame shots with A77ii even with old Minolta glass especially 28-135 and 19-35 and also the APS-C Sony 55-300 lens is very comparable to the 100-400 GM for just $100 on ebay. This is important to take into account.
I ignored some of the criticism in this review and bought an A77II anyway, I'm glad I did. The AF system in this camera makes it an INSANE monster of an autofocusing beast, and the Lock-on AF Flexible Spot is an incredible feature, I really wish this review made more emphasis on it since while being a small update from the A77 on paper, it has a revolutionary focusing system for it's class and a massive buffer.
Also, the "Lag" when changing settings is mildly noticeable on the LCD display but not present in the EVF, the camera is quite responsive and this is really a non-issue. If you want something real to pick at on this, poke at it's battery life.
In the end it'd be nice to see a 2 or 3 way comparison review between A77II, D7100 and 70D, see how they stack up. Cheers.
This is the most angry but calm review I have ever seen
this guys is detrimental to digital rev, they need a a reviewer thats un-bias, technical and a decent photographer. Plenty around im sure as for the camera i had the honor to take it home over the week end and its an absolute delight.. currently im comparing it to my wifes 1Dmk4 and the 5Dmk3 at a mountain bike event, in terms of auto focus the 77 in certainly up above the pro 1d4 and in terms of imagery, better colour depth and dynamic range than both canon cameras. Hats of to sony.
Haters gonna hate ! Review the a6000 !!!
Yeah. A6000 and A7S are way more interesting cameras than this little upgrade :).
That N on the side is NFC, which is used to transfer files by touching another device with NFC capabilities.
Looks like he already gave a verdict before he use it. Been watching his review before and it was amazing.
He is using manual focus here - autofocus would have probably done a better job!! ;)
Two things...
1. The lens he used has a tiny manual focus ring & a very short focus throw. It is not at all optimised for manual focusing. Far & away harder to manual focus than the lenses Lok is probably used to...
2. The direction to turn the focusing ring on the lens is probably different to what Lok is used to. When I switched to Sony a lot of my focusing looked like that as the majority of their lenses focus in the opposite direction to what I was used to.
I would like a classic camera body that is not too bulky but does some simple things to help make the shot better. No need for all the buttons.
Iv been following DigitalRev for a long time. Great show and and mostly always one of the first to get new camera reviews out. But Kai cmon ... sometimes you have a negative vibe when u start the review, like ur mom shouted at you and made you do the review. It then seems like ur biased and thats not a sign of a good reviewer. This review wasnt so clear because u were always like "meh whatever, i dont care". For example, u completely forgot to emphasize on the increase in burst shot buffer ... which actually makes the 12fps mode usable unlike the original a77 ... i believe it is a good camera, not as dull as u make it seem ... great joke with the coffee thing though.
and a77ii is cheaper than the original a77 at the time of release. The only thing Im disappointed in is the lack of 4k video and the supposed discontinuation of the a65 (no a65ii) because to me that was the best slt in terms of size/features/price ratio.
I love your reviews, and the locations are awesome
That opening was great.
The images are incredible!
'Nespresso' won't make you coffee. The 'N' means NFC (Near Field Communication) and it means that the camera has a tiny chip inside. When you tap that chip with your Android phone/tablet (also equipped with NFC) it will establish a secure WiFi or Bluetooth connection to share your pictures. This also works well with the ***** QX10 and QX100, and in the future it will enable you to pay your $9 ice cream with it, but Kai will never be able to enjoy any of this since he is still using an iPhone.
Thank you, Captain Obvious!
its a fucking joke mr.tecnical BS STFU
May I Have 2 Nespresso, please?
You guys have to do the new SIGMA Art lenses!!!!
I know people who have this camera and are raving about it. From the first minute of this video it is plain that he either dislikes the camera or Sony or, as a lot of people are saying, his company are sponsored by either Canon or Nikon in much the same way Camera Magazines are. Sad, as it's a great camera and I just wish reviewers could give an honest unbiased opinion.
Can we use this for you tube live streaming ? Does it have record limit ?
Kai just hates the Sony SLTs...for no reason. I'm not just saying that. It's in the video. There was not a single major downside with this camera stated. It just didn't have enough improvements for him. Still, Sony is using a brand new sensor and chip. Canon can use the same exact sensor for 4 models of cameras in a row, and we won't hear that from Kai. As for image quality, DXOMark, the leader in camera tests, gave the image quality of the A77II a rating of 82, and its Canon competitor, the 70D a rating of 68. And these scores come from actual scientific color depth, dynamic range, and ISO tests...instead of unqualified personal biases, as with DRTV videos. (And full disclosure, the camera that I currently use is a Canon and I love it.) So OK guys, stay away from the A77II because it looks "hunched over" (even though I like the design more).
What is with the stabilization glitching. The stabilization on the cheaper cameras such as the t3i and even many point and shoot cameras perform far better. It would have been better to just keep it off. shaky cam is less noticeable when the entire frame shakes in an expected way, but when the stabilization is only keeping up with the major/ slower shapes but suffering from bounce back when countering the smaller and more rapid shakes, then it makes the whole issue more noticeable.
T3i does not have in body stabilization, no canon has.
Mattias Burling
Yep, it is done in the lens and it works far better than what the A77 II was doing in the video. The sony camera has a bunch of bounceback when it tries to correct the more rapid movements e.g, when when walking and the vibration from stepping gets transferred to the camera, the lens stabilization largely just ignores the vibrations that it cannot deal with. but the sony seems to take those vibrations and make them more noticeable by adding to them. (the sony seems to overcorrect or miss the vibration and end up amplifying it) Think of it as noise canceling for audio, if the noise canceling circuitry is even a little out of sync, it amplifies the noise.
It doesnt work that great in any of them imo. The best stabilization is in the Olympus EM5 but that isnt verry good for video so my suggestion is to use a tripod.
Mattias Burling
Yep it is pretty bad in just about all of them, but for the A77 II the stabilization seems to actually make things worst
Razor2048 Sony's image stabilization is done in the camera body, which means lenses are more affordable all around. You might be referring to the kit lens that comes with the T3i, which does in fact have image stabilization. If you end up purchasing L lenses, such as the 70-200 f2.8, you'll notice the price difference between the IS version and non-IS is about $1000. While the Sony's sensor-shift technology isn't the greatest for video, for shooting photos there's not much difference from my experience. With the exception of maybe the A7S, GH4, and BMPCC, Canon will have a leg up in the amateur video production world for a long time to come.
I wouldn't classify the A77 at middle of the range for sony, it is more of a pro level crop sensor DSLR.
yes you are right, The only other camera above this is the A99 and the A7
I like your reviews Kai! Would like to see a comparison A6000 vs. OMD EM 10.
Kind a lot of nitpicking action going on here to be honest.
Yes I really don't like the video quality that much with all of that stuttering from the OIS going on there but the pictures look really good in my opinion.
And most of the stuff that was criticized is not really that bad.
It's a camera that shoots 12 FPS, 24MP, good autofocus in camera mode, and is affordable. If you're looking for a camera that's not going to break the bank and lens selection isn't a big deal to you, go for it.
Jonathan D. Lopez
Yes, that's what I mean. It actually looks like a really good camera but the video makes it look rather dull.
Price point, it's excellent. I know it wouldn't work for me because I have too much invested in Nikon Speedlights, but I seriously think that Nikon has been going downhill lately.
We'll see with the D800 replacement.
Jonathan D. Lopez
Yes, that is exactly what I think. Heck, the A57 has been the number one camera for under 1000 bucks for months on almost all review sites when it came out.
So the A77 can't be that bad since it is supposed to be even better than the A57.
Boy am I glad I bought a Pentax K-3, you know the one, the best current APS-C camera for sale at the moment, And I really loved your review of the K-3??? Oh wait a minute it's been out for nearly a year and still no review, So I take it you love Sony a whole lot more........
Good review.
The video looked way worse than the other videos you have made, but the autofocus in photo mode and the tilt screen were good selling points. I think if the camera was Nikon-made, Kai would have been ecstatic when saying 12FPS! IDK, seems like a big deal to me, just sucks that there is only 1 SD slot.
He was for the first version, I think he was underwhelmed by the "new" model.
Kai loved it. He had camera strap on.
Lok is right, rather use a GH4 or the usual 5Dmk.3 for video.....the A77 II image stabilization seems meh and the AF seems unable to catch up Kai when walking.....
Sony forever!!! The Best DSLR camera.
that image quality is really fucking good though.
Love you guys, COME TO LONDON AGAIN!
I have to say the video looks much better than the 5DmkIII footage, ignoring the focus problems
Compare this to the 3 videos on the Canon 7D MarkII which still specs less than the first A77, and you will see why his reviews are for shit.
holy true
specs don't mean everything, I agree there is bias but still...
Sony rumors, A88 Full Frame, and A99ii sometime in the near future.... as for now imma stick with my A7R!
Very nice camera! Sony are making waves. Even this camera is from 2014 it still is very good today!
I was about to watch your camera review, but I was distracted with you new haircut..lols!
DigitalRev TV When will you do a review of the Sony A6000?
How does the a77ii compare to the a6000? I'm interested in both photography and video so could any owner of the a77ii give me some advice? The video also needs to be better than the a6000, or at least on par. I want good video with very gradable footage
Has the original A77 review been taken down?
Probably, seems like this is the only A77 related video left
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Please review Sony A6000!
People always complain about autofocus even when its not yet invented for video. Not even canons $5000 video cameras or any camera for that matter have an autofocus worthy of using for anything accept home movies. But with that said, the camera seemed pretty bad at most things.
No mention of the eye focus system! Does it really focus on the eye of your subject or not?
The dynamic range seems a bit better. But over all it's the same camera with a new sensor and processor. I don't see the advantage of buying this over the old one, which is pretty cheap now.
Can we expect a Sony Alpha a6000 review soon?
Is the GH4 really that much better for run-n'-gun video? I thought it had a hard time hunting for focus too. Surprising that the A77mk2's phase detection did not work so well - worse than the GH4's contrast detection autofocus? Usually PDA words better than CDA I thought, like on a Canon 70D which would be great for video save for the moire/aliasing - wonder how the A77mk2 compares in that way too.
Why are you doing this camera when you haven't reviewed the A6000 yet?
Which is newest Sony full frame camera besides a7 line?
Can you use this to connect to OBS live streaming camera? Thanks 🙏
Not sure who's paying this guy, but SONY's entry DSLR equivalents and their semi-pro equivalents blow away the competition. I'll never go back to Canon after using SLT's now for nearly five years. The a57 has given me the best photo's I've ever taken. Hoping to upgrade to this a77MKII this year. SONY's SLT's have features which are light years ahead of the competition and deliver outstanding jpeg quality too. If this chap doesn't like SONY stuff, then he should simply stop reviewing them.
go for the a6000 from sony. Now THAT is what you call "light years ahead".
I think Kai or Lok forgot to turn on the Steady Shot Inside before they started filming.
Love the strap!
I want a Autofocus Test against the Nikon D7100 and the Canon 70D/7D :)
I am sure that there are quite some autofocus tests on other UA-cam channels :)... DigitalRevTV is more about Comedy mixed with camera reviewing, as for actual tests.
The focus in video shooting is not good as the 5D that you use all time ,, i think sony must improve this dslr more than this way ,,
BTW nice haircut kai W
I am pretty sure, that is because it is not configured correctly. Lok is not used to Sony you know...
Ha ha, the Nespresso joke never gets old!
Kai puts on weight and looks handsome.
I'm a sony fan but you are so funny when you described the Cam :D
Great video!
DigitalRev DigitalRev TV given the fact that I rarely shot videos and I do mainly street and landscape photography.. Would you suggest to buy a a6000 or this a77II? I would need to stick on Sony since I do have already few lenses. Thank you for the eventual feedback. Would be very much appreciated :)
Cmon man! Those are FootDARTS! One American called them Chi** Darts. You got good kicks! Impressive whilst shooting the stills. Good work.
The fact it only comes with a single SD slot should be a HUGE selling point on this camera. Sony finally steering away from there own proprietary memory cards.
Please do a review of the Pentax K3
"get it out first..that's what she said" XD I really like this host
From when did you start using a camera strap ?
DigitalRev needs a new presenter.
Which camera should I buy the Sony a77ii or the a7ii or the Nikon d7200?
i now know you can't get autofocus in manual movie mode but what about in aperture priority mode??? I'm thinking about this for an upgrade & change from a d300
I love your videos!!! You are too funny!
Nice camera strap.. Want!
Please do review of Sony a77ii vs canon m5 ..good which is better
Still no Leica T review?
DigitalRev TV Does anybody know if they have done a review of the Sony RX100 M3? Love your hair cut Kai Man Wong😏
Make a "How to do flare photos" video!
wats the lens used for the video......seems worse than those for original A77
you crack me up...enjoyed the video
For all of you, as soon as I got the A77 II with 16-50 kit, I'll clear your mind with a fair sample clip.
Any chance of a review of the new Canon 10-18mm f4.5-f5.6 IS STM? With a portion addressing the low light/night capabilities?
does it get interval timed shooting(time lapse)? its insane that my A99 hasn't got that or received an update with it.
A77-II? I wonder if they are going to do a "pentax" (k5-II) and this is going to be replaced pretty soon with an all-new all-better model... A78 or whatever they might call it, after all they changed NEX to Axxxx already.
he never does the test for long expose, I would love to see the long expose at night time for A77ii . coz I am still curious about if the noise has been improved from A77
Is it worth upgrading from its predecessor?
Make a review of the sony hx400
Cheers to someone finally pushing an APS-C camera up to ISO 51,600 ... Now that some have finally caught up, Pentax-Ricoh can pull further ahead... Again. :)
How is this a DSLR if it uses an OLED viewfinder?
I love that camera.
He doesn't like sony actually. :/
i dont like his volcano nose
I have a A57 that I love. But honestly why by this thing when sony is coming out with stuff like the A6000
What? They removed GPS? It’s one of the most-used features for me.
i shoot with sony, canon and nikon bodies and they are all great cameras that give excellent results, however my sony SLT A mount camera bodies have two major features that lead the pack, first the Electronic viewfinder that allows you to see the finished product before you actually shoot the image which opens the door for many many other features and second is the body stabilization...........i shoot for pleasure....
I don't like this came, because I shot a lot of short film, I use AF a lot but based on this video I can see there are too much neck when it focuses. I still stick with the 70d (best camera for beginner film maker.
As i read the comments here, it seems like the people make him more of a fanboy than he actually is.
In fact he liked the "White Magic" (that really sounds.... yeah... porno :D), he didnt ranted about removed GPS (like most Sony Fanboys did), he made good joke about useless Nespresso Feature.
But the most important feature is (beside the enhanced sensor (which really is an good reason to buy this if you own the a77)) is the new AF System and he said its fast, accurate and there are a insane lot of dots. And they also said noise is low up until 6400 (where 1600 was the limit on the a77 afaik)
About the Video Quality well, he is right. Using the AVCHD Codec is for consumers and that is what you get, consumer Image Quality.
The videos look much better in 50p/60p, also the IBIS lagg we see here is not there when using 50/60p but in the end, you can use the uncompressed HDMI Output for professional recording (or better, use an a99 which is _much_ better in Terms of Video).
So i cant see a real rant here, hes just making more brand jokes than usual and maybe he could be a bit more exited.
He was serious when saying the new AF-System is good, but he sounded like its sarcastic, but i think thats his Sony voice. Maybe its something he was born with :D
what's that called the thing your playing with
Where do I get the Bookehlisious strap?!?!!?!?!?!?!
I cared about the gps i geotag a lot for a huge project
I like this one