The problem with playing this deep is that sometimes you are going to be put in horrible spots. Everybody can play 100-150bb deep but 1000bb deep is another story. I usually never play over 300bb as the spots become tough.
I never play beyond 300BB because im not allowing some villain to play like an Ass hole, stick their money in like an idiot. And Bink - 800BB pot being shipped to villain
I thought L.S.G. had flopped a set of 33 or 44. His facial expressions gave me the read he was trying to express weakness. His expression was truthful. He was week on the flop. Picked up something on the turn. I would probably check the Aces on the river. See what kind of bet my opponent puts out. I'm not saying I would call $900,000 on the river. I'm never this deep. Or play big games. Brutal bluff at the highest level. Good thing Doug is rich.
I thought he flopped the set on the flop, too. He needed to let Hank bet (after checking) to see if Hank was still bold after a check. If Hank bets, then Doug could check/raise, prolly forcing the fold before the river.
Against a random player it's a snap fold. Against a competent player it's probably a mix call because in terms of blockers you unblock diamonds and that's it.
It's never a snap fold here man come on with AA on that board😅 What can he really have that would justify a snap fold? I knew there was something fishy watching it . I would have called this and would be rewarded for doing so
Hank outsmart him. He knows Doug is value betting and worked out for him. If Dawg either checked or raise 400 or half of his stack I doubt Hank will go all in knowing now Doug hands is strong
THIS. poker is not just reading your opponent, but mostly about not making it easy for your opponent to read you. I think Doug played this hand way too straight forward. That 200K at the end, you're not going to get called by worse but you will get raised by better or a bluff, so either be more aggressive and get ready to put it in or save yourself some chips if you don't like your hand for an all in pot.
thats one of the best bluffs ever recorded, I believe that it makes a stand in regards to how important money actually can be - Dougs decision was also based on bankroll. What do you think?
Kinda proves the mentality wrong… he had AA so he could have QQ. Like you know it just changes the probability. So he thought his A was still an out vs kk Multi draw on turn Or some shit lol I’m not playing for millions
QQ isn’t the nuts. He was blocking the nuts so choose to represent the nuts. He made that play with the thinking of QQ folding a % Same as most other sets. Only blockers he was counting were those to the nut straight
@@thrillofitall89 right where to start. Firstly if you think snapping off 750 bb 100% of the time without the nuts is a profitable play your an idiot. Secondly the player himself turns over his card and immediately tells the table he was blocking the nuts most importantly he mentions the jack because this was blocking the key nut cards the ones that could have been chasing a flush. He literally says it in the video
You mentioned he has pocket queens at 3:40. I would have put Hank on AQ until the all in after the river. At that point I'd assume pocket 3s or 4s. Maybe Q9clubs or something. I'd just feel like there are too many hands that beat me. Really hard to fold AA though.
@@JoshK-g2c No he said folding top over pair there is hard 🙃 Which it is, the way it was played. Really good bluff, but yeah that was risking a mill and quarter vs quarter on a very connecti board.
@JoshK-g2c haha, I know a pair should be an easy fold in many cases, but when I get aces pre-flop, it feels like i already won in my mind. It takes a lot of experience and discipline to go from that feeling to understanding that you are probably beat and should let it go. In this case, a stubborn AA holder would have come out on top.
Hank is either bluffing with something like a missed straight draw or he has Polk beat. He's not doing that with like KK or Qx IMO. My issue is he took so long, I know live tells aren't that great but what was he thinking about? I would imagine he was either thinking is his hand better than Polk's range or he was comtemplating a bluff. How many value hands does he have against bluffs? His value hands are sets and two pair, I highly doubt he is calling big on the turn on the turn with just a gutter. So I would think he either has 33/44/Q8s/Q9s/QQ 17 combos against bluffs? 25s, 56s, A2s A5s, maybe 12 combos. If that are his bluffs, you are supposed to call given the pot odds. But I could be wrong about his bluffs, if you remove some of those hands it's a clear fold. I don't know what I'd do, I guess in terms of blinds that's a very large bet playing deep. It seems a bit reckless to bluff since Polk has fired on all three streets, he has a big hand. I don't think it's the best spot to bluff so I'd probably fold my hand. But the tank earlier by Hank would have me wondering if he is pulling off a large bluff.
You have him on 99? Is he really calling on the turn with that hand? I think that would be a bad call, especially if you plan to fold to a river bet. Edit: The river was $200K, not the turn.
I would probably have been in a puddle muttering about my life choices facing that river decision. How Doug focuses here and works through the odds of his river call really impressed me.
Tough call but feels bluff heavy. Only losing to J10, QQ, 99, don't think anything else is getting to this river. And you'd think a smaller bet size is more of a value size. But i have no idea how the guy usually plays. Tough spot for a huge dollar amount
I picked AK of diamonds and a call because I unblock the Ad. The only combo of J10 he calls 81k on the turn with is probably diamonds and we saw Tom fold the 10d (but Doug wouldn't know that). I don't know the player, but after he stuck it in he gave off a HUGE physical tell, passifying by hugging himself. Not always accurate, but knowing nothing else about him and unblocking missed diamonds I'd have called as played. It was close though.
I think at some point, even for Doug, the stakes matter. If it were 10% of these amounts, like $70K to call into a $140K pot, Doug would have called quickly. He says it's all GTO, but eventually fear takes over. After all, GTO assumes there will be a lot of hands like this one. But truth is there will not be, not for $1.4M.
Q9s I guess? People hardly ever bluff when given no rope. Doug 3-bet pre, c-bet, and made 2 chunky bets on the turn and river. I think LSG was taking to figure out of AA and KK would call a jam and he wouldn't get snapped by 88, JTs that double barreled turn and the last remaining combo of QQ at a high enough frequency to justify jamming river. Edit: Wow I was so wrong LSG has some heart! Or should I say diamonds!!!
that all in is either a bluff or a set, straight very unlikely. I though may AK suited or Ax suited like A10 that was floating to see if he either caught backdoor outs or an ace. On the other hand, it was a flopped sett or 88, I very much doubt he would have called the turn with 99, I actually thiught he had 44 to be honest, set mining preflop.
I was thinking that he binked some kind of Q9dd or JTdd hand or was turning some kind of KJdd/KTdd/QJdd/QTdd into a bluff. AJdd makes sense but wasn't what i was thinking. A set of 9s would make sense too but most other sets i would expect a raise at some point so I didn't give much credit to those.
I May be wrong but my pre(full) video guess for mystery hand was pocket pairs, suited connectors….so after the flip immediately guess pocket QQ or a straight draw with the board! Soooo I’m not saying I’m the best player or anything definitely far from but with turn river like that…immediate fold !!! Pocket A’s in my opinion can get you killeddd more than you will dominate with them!! We greatly appreciate all the coaching brother 🤘🏼🤘🏼
I do not know how Hank behaves otherwise, but when he is asked 'How much is it?' he goes intantly in a defensive mode with his body language. Of course it could be a trick as well. But I know for example Ivey when he asks his opponents, he always asks it for tells. Is this tell obvious or on this level the players can play trick with these?
I’m gonna be honest i would have never ever expected AdJd there lol. Probably one of the last hands I’d expect to see there xD. He played it like a turned or rivered set. Here’s what I was thinking though. If he did have a set on the river I’d expect a shove after exactly 20sc-1 minute. Considering he tanked for the time he actually did, I expected slightly more bluffs. If he has a set he’s not taking extremely long, or jamming extremely quick. If I was Doug I would have leaned towards folding though.
Having two diamonds is bad for your bluffing hand here. It makes it less likely your opponent is bluffing with a busted flush draw, which makes it more likely he has a made hand which means they are more likely to call. You want AJ of clubs here
Yeah it’s not a great bluff. All he has for removal is the j, and considering Doug having J 10 being extremely unlikely makes the j removal pointless. Just a pure gamble bluff but it worked I guess
@rugbychampion1 and others Maybe next time you guys play on a million dollar buy-in poker game you can show Doug and LSG hank the correct hands to use when bluffing.
@rugbychampion1 and others Maybe next time you guys play on a million dollar buy-in poker game you can show Doug and Lsg hank the correct combo of hands to use when you bluff all in for $700k
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2 reasons why i don't fold, # 1 if i can afford to play at those stakes then i can afford to lose that pot and #2 , lsg kept calling , people who do that are usually on a nut draw or a very good draw and when they miss they have no choice but to shove .
To me this is a clear fold, unless you have a rock-solid tell on the opponent that shows he is bluffing P.S. Just imagine Phil H instead of Doug... How many bleeps would we need?
Did you see the way hank crossed his arms? In body language they call that a "soothing" position. I kept asking myself. Why is hank in a "soothing" position?
Just like Polk taking a sip of his water while LSG contemplates his next move. All bullshit. And the clock should have been called the moment Polk started yakking, looking for tells. And all this nonsense with drawing the heart or spade twice is more bullshit. Play poker and quit trying to cheat. Leave the cheating to Hustler Live, they're very good at it.
I wonder if Doug checks river if he bluffs with something Doug can call or if he still jams, hes definitely still bluffing I understand why we bet 200 on the river but it looks like we're trying to get value from a Q to be honest, I was thinking he might turn JJ or 1010 into a bluff too I don't think we have J10 too often with the pre flop big raise and downbet flop bet but its possible, its just such a dry board
That's why I like to get the AA all-in pre-flop or on the flop. Too many things can get there to beat just top pair. J10 straight could have made it on the river, or QQ 99 even seems reasonable. If my Aces get cracked on the flop, they get cracked. But let it linger on to the river, and anything can happen.
A 3-bet $30k pre-flop, then downsizing it to $24k on the flop was not a good bet. $120k would be standard, and $240k would be too much, but could incite an all-in bluff, which I would snap call. If he has QQ, he's not folding, anyway, and him not 4-betting pre-flop would make me think he didn't have QQ, anyway. Maybe AQ, JJ, but not AK, KK, or QQ. If he gets there with top set QQ vs my AA, oh well.
Everyone likes to get preflop all-in with AA, but this not a tournament. It’s 1000BB deep cash game. It’s like your local 1/3 game with $3000 stakes. You facing a $20 raise, looking at your cards and see AA, how much you 3betting? $500 so you can comfortably go all in on the flop or turn? If yes, how much you 3 betting with weaker hands like TT or AQ? Also $500 or something more adequate, like $75?
The nuts is JT, one of the best hands in Doug his range is QQ. Therefore the most logical bluff would be QJdd. I think 88/99 is too thin since Doug has hard time calling with over pairs and calls with QQ.
I don’t think he tanks so long to shove the nuts, so no J10. I don’t think he shoves with anything other than 99 as played. I think Doug probably could’ve found a call easier than a fold.
If I am in Doug's shoes. I remember him saying that he was no longer going yo he afraid at the poker table. I also adopted that philosophy. I would have to call the overbet and live with the outcome. I can live with being beat. But getting.bluffed is hard to forget
Haven't watched the end. I'd call, Hank has a lot of flop floats with back door equity that would continue the turn and then could bluff river if missed A2s, a5s, a4cc, a3dd, even low suited connects 56, 67, 75. He does have pairs that have turned into sets. If he's bluffing it has to be missed diamond draw, if he has it it's probs top set, maybe Q9, my Spidey senses are saying call though....
I was right, missed diamonds. Didn't have him on AJs but I suppose that would be a natural bluff in that spot. Hanks body language looked like he wanted Doug to fold, crossed arms, took a while to make his move, Doug really wanted to call but he didn't give Hank credit for being able to bluff shove there.
Very interesting spot I think AK Diamonds most likely but sometimes its QQ. The big bet on the turn 81k with the diamond makes me think he is only calling with a made hand like QQ or drawing hand like AK diamonds, I think AQ diamonds would have raised small flop bet.
To be fair, he was just hoping to hit an Ace on the river or another diamond. He got neither, so he just decided to use his big stack to bluff a big hand.
Wow, tough spot. I mean I don't think he has it, I think he has a queen, but man, I don't know if i have the balls to call for another $700k. The title of the video kind of gives it away but what are the chances he has JT, or 89? Seems unlikely. Does he chase a gut shot all the way to the river? Maybe he's slow playing pocket queens. But man, I think he has something like AQ or KQ, maybe JJ. Hard to blame Doug if he folds here. Its just so much money.
I don't really like the river value bet - as played it seems hard to put him on a value hand that played it like this. 33 or 44 play it like this? Perhaps. I would of checked river though and I wouldn't of been in this mess.
Value: All the sets, JT (maybe). Bluffs: A2d,A5d,56d,56h,56c,J9d,T9d. Someone has to be getting pretty spicy or using low paired hands (eg. K3s) to find enough bluffs here. I fold. My gut says pocket QQ.
LSG Hank believed that Doug had overcards, and that Doug would correctly fold his overcards to an all-in bet. Doug would have been better off by betting so as to indicate that he had a made hand.
In my local cashgame this is a pure fold 100% of the time. At low stakes people are not creative enough to find a bluff here. AQ is a better call here I think because we block the Q9, Q8 combos he migth have but I think otherwise against a competent player we are indifferent here.
If I bet three times and i get raised on the river I'm usually folding at 0.02/0.05 on Stars cos if you have as low as the 2nd nuts youre usually smoked. JT or 99 for JSG imo
Hindsight is 20/20. Polk probably had something big from his preflop raise. AK and AA were certainly in his range. AK missed the flop, but Polk bet big again. Less likely he has AK, supported by another big bet on the turn. LSG figures he has AA, or KK. An all-in 3-bet bluff on the river has a good chance to spank AA, so LSG takes it. Polk played his AA too strongly and got his ass kicked. The all-in on the river is bluffy as hell, especially when it's easy to assume that LSG figures you for pocket AA, and knows you can't call an all-in with a single pair hand, even an overpair.
Another key thing here- if doug says this shit about flipping the cards and its not binding. Clearly can see Hank isn't relaxed at all at that point and extremely likely bluffing now.. If somehow he could play some of these mind games eventually could get some insane information out of Hank.
still thinking not knowing yet- i think lsg has a pocket pair- is it a queen? i would hate to fold rockets after investment- i think i would still fold but its not my final answer- ?? he got a pocket pair? i doubt hed call the flop with 10 J- fuh he plays like he has set queens- and my play lately dont have no bluffing- if a guy goes all in at u then u need to stop- not final answer jon- wtf he got? pocket pair? set Q?- and bak to the vid> can doug "soul read"- i dont know> just ask him what he has
Would have called. I had him potentially on JJ or AJd making a move. Can’t get to the river and fold on missed diamonds without that bluff in your arsenal.
Interesting thing about the new generation, they don’t look at their opponents at all during the hand. He is staring at the board trying to think of combos. Tells aren’t everything, but should be at least a bit of the equation. They tip tough decisions
@ he displayed multiple tells from Mike Cari’s and Joe Navajos books. Easy to be said from the side rail for sure, but he was displaying many tells of unease
@@CanariasCanariass That's exactly how you read him. He looks like a bluffer terrified of being found out. If he were a known top flight player he'd be balancing fake tells and real tells. The unknown guy who plunked down a million in the TV game, the guy no one knows anything about? Take him literally.
EAsy call for doug. He's never shoving all in there with trips or two pair and if you've hit the backdoor straight then god bless you you're getting all my chips.
AK and I call... Doug played it like AA or KK, his opponent thought about it for a minute or so and seems to be trying to make him fold... if he has a set he wins. I'm not folding. Doug could have simply check -called river rather than bet-fold... Also like he said there's just not that many sets, 99 folds turn... back door diamonds miss, I think he's gotta call... Easier said than done
Honestly, if I had plenty of money in the bank, and not worry about money at all, I would have made the call. I just don't think anything makes sense for him to have anything other than a possible set , but most likely a bluff. While watching this video, I was 80% sure it was a bluff
The title of the video kind of tells me what Doug should do against the all-in. Who is that other mook to the left of LSG putting his hands on somebody else's chips?
Look… when playing high stakes and you get aces… you must always limp, flat, check, pot control, get to the river cheap and treat them like the drawing hand they are. 😅
If I was at the table I would fold. From my coach though, it's a call. We lose to sets and TJdd and not much else and there are enough hands bluffing here for the call (need to win ~1/3 of the time)
He was telling the story that he had 88. It’s a shit ton of money though haha. If all things are relative to my stakes of 2/5, I call majority of the time and just chalk it up to a good hit. But there’s a luxury home in that pot, so I certainly understand the fold.
Why does Doug bet on the River? There are not many worse hands that are calling. Maybe AQ, KQ, QT, JJ, TT All other combos would either fold or Raise (33, 44, 88, 99, QQ, TJ. Q8s, Q9s). So isnt it better to control the pot and check call the river? Idk, im just a rec.
I agree with you. One of the best pieces of advice I've heard was to "play small pots with small hands, and big pots with big hands". AA is a big hand preflop, but in this case, its only a single pair. I think checking would be better there. Then you're comfortable calling a smaller bet by your opponent, and it makes it less likely they rip it in. Would Hank have ripped it in if Doug would have just checked?
Simple bet-fold spot. Yes, there aren't a lot of worse combos that call, but notice every single one of those combos (besides maybe AQ) snap checks back on river. This is of course a much higher level game but in most games you really, really don't have to worry about players turning AJdd into a river jam bluff, it just never happens. So with that in mind I think it makes a lot more sense to value bet river.
@@hennman Ofc that most players aren bluffing and most players going to pay you with way worse. Startegy is all player dependant and Doug kinda expects Hank that he is capable of turning showdown value into bluff which is high-level play and simply not in many players arsenal especially recreationals.
I dont know DPs BR here but i would imagine its not the usual 100-200 times the buy-in… so i would fold bc the game is too big for my current hand in the situation at hand
Not a fan of Polk but I don't think that he got "owned." Sure he was confused but he didn't fold to the bluff. He basically flipped a coin to make a decision that he felt pressured to resolve. Same outcome but not the same. Kudos to Hank for a ballsy bluff. Btw, the commenting between every street is annoying af and some of the analysis is incorrect.
He is counting the combos of value hands and combos of bluffs. There are a lot more value jams than bluffs here. This is why he is probably calling with a 1/3 or 1/4 frequency.
@@robtaylor8816 I don’t agree…to me He was just lamenting the turn of events and because of pride made the gimmicks with the cards. But think about it, Doug made the $200K as a value bet wishing that Hank has QK QJ (I actually thought He had Q♦️9♦️)…but any two pairs, sets or straight beats Doug so calling an extra $700K with a single pair against a re-raise is not a reasonable choice at all.
@@junito1008 if you have watched Doug before, you will know he often randomizes his river decisions like this. He is calling some percentage of the time here as there are absolutely some bluffs (but not too many) in villain's range. If you are folding AA all the time in this spot, you are deviating from optimal game theory.
To be a good poker player you have to think of the chips as chips and not as moneys. And this is a game and to make the best decisions based on the game. I know he let the amount of money influence his decision. These stakes are too high for him to play.
I would not have folded. I know its an insane amount of money, but if this is a tournament this is clearly a call. Because it's more money than Doug can tolerate, he can't think rationally and makes an emotional decision. Really only pocket 9s got there. Everything else had good opportunity to extract more value out of Doug sooner. Remember, doug could have been on a diamond draw, or had 5, 6; in which case why would the opponent (who has a set or two pair) not make you pay for it when you're doing the raising? Raise, call --> Raise, call that's almost always a hit on the river or a bluff incoming.
His decision to randomize is actually not emotional at all. The solver wants to call and fold about half and half, he gave it 25%. The theory is even so unless you got a read, it's sound
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JL loves when Polk gets wrecked lol
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Plays the 10-2 of diamonds perfectly from here 😂😂😂😂
I mean it was Tom Dwan - I've seen him do crazy stuff with 7, 2!
@ for sure, I thought it was hilarious how he said it! 👊
Not sure how he stands up that fast with balls that big and made of steel
That talks a lot about Doug Polk image
His voice didn't sound like he had big balls. Little tiny balls maybe.
ahhah
I put him on either KJd or Axd. As such, I was fully expecting him to turn over a pair of Q.
@@diegoprada5452he needs to change his name from Polk to Pwnd
The problem with playing this deep is that sometimes you are going to be put in horrible spots. Everybody can play 100-150bb deep but 1000bb deep is another story. I usually never play over 300bb as the spots become tough.
I never play beyond 300BB because im not allowing some villain to play like an Ass hole, stick their money in like an idiot. And Bink - 800BB pot being shipped to villain
i like to play 40bb deep at most...Much easier to read the cards...
And that is why you will never achieve greatness.
@@nflsportsesport4248 please stick to slots lmfao 40bb
Agreed! I leave the online table if I reach 200 bb.
I thought L.S.G. had flopped a set of 33 or 44. His facial expressions gave me the read he was trying to express weakness. His expression was truthful. He was week on the flop. Picked up something on the turn. I would probably check the Aces on the river. See what kind of bet my opponent puts out. I'm not saying I would call $900,000 on the river. I'm never this deep. Or play big games. Brutal bluff at the highest level. Good thing Doug is rich.
I thought he flopped the set on the flop, too. He needed to let Hank bet (after checking) to see if Hank was still bold after a check. If Hank bets, then Doug could check/raise, prolly forcing the fold before the river.
Against a random player it's a snap fold. Against a competent player it's probably a mix call because in terms of blockers you unblock diamonds and that's it.
It's never a snap fold here man come on with AA on that board😅 What can he really have that would justify a snap fold? I knew there was something fishy watching it . I would have called this and would be rewarded for doing so
should doug have checked the turn?
@@Chino-bk9fd - Yes, and see of LSG bets big or checks back.
Yeah someone clueless would have a set here, a player with a slight clue who isn't good would be bluffing here because it represents nothing.
GTO says it's always a fold.
Wes hating cause his bluff got called by Tom Dwan and LSG Hanks got through 😂
Doug showed the vulnerability of pushing BIG pots with a single pair. Villain knew what Doug had and applied maximum pressure. Well played Villain.
Hank outsmart him. He knows Doug is value betting and worked out for him. If Dawg either checked or raise 400 or half of his stack I doubt Hank will go all in knowing now Doug hands is strong
THIS. poker is not just reading your opponent, but mostly about not making it easy for your opponent to read you.
I think Doug played this hand way too straight forward. That 200K at the end, you're not going to get called by worse but you will get raised by better or a bluff, so either be more aggressive and get ready to put it in or save yourself some chips if you don't like your hand for an all in pot.
@@madderz952 on point
Sorry, but what did your commentary add to just watching the live feed?
Easy money for jonathan lol
Minecraft food noises when Polk drinks
Quite a lot actually. If it doesn't add anything to you, just watch the stream, or even better, go play
thats one of the best bluffs ever recorded, I believe that it makes a stand in regards to how important money actually can be - Dougs decision was also based on bankroll. What do you think?
LSG "blocked" AA and JT with AJ. He put Doug on KK since the Q on the flop "blocks" QQ. Awesome play with the "blocker" mentality.
Kinda proves the mentality wrong… he had AA so he could have QQ. Like you know it just changes the probability.
So he thought his A was still an out vs kk
Multi draw on turn
Or some shit lol I’m not playing for millions
QQ isn’t the nuts. He was blocking the nuts so choose to represent the nuts.
He made that play with the thinking of QQ folding a %
Same as most other sets.
Only blockers he was counting were those to the nut straight
@alphabet6814it’s a blocker, not an impossibility. people still get pregnant on birth control.
@@Leinsterken No he didnot think QQ would fold any percentage of the time, no one would ever fold that to a runner runner straight.
@@thrillofitall89 right where to start. Firstly if you think snapping off 750 bb 100% of the time without the nuts is a profitable play your an idiot.
Secondly the player himself turns over his card and immediately tells the table he was blocking the nuts most importantly he mentions the jack because this was blocking the key nut cards the ones that could have been chasing a flush.
He literally says it in the video
You mentioned he has pocket queens at 3:40. I would have put Hank on AQ until the all in after the river. At that point I'd assume pocket 3s or 4s. Maybe Q9clubs or something. I'd just feel like there are too many hands that beat me. Really hard to fold AA though.
Wow. Doug was a great sport at the end there.
3+3+2 (8s)+4(Q9s)+4(JTs)... Can't find 8 bluffing combos?
Lol you say folding one pair is hard 😂😂ok dude.
@@JoshK-g2c No he said folding top over pair there is hard 🙃 Which it is, the way it was played. Really good bluff, but yeah that was risking a mill and quarter vs quarter on a very connecti board.
@JoshK-g2c haha, I know a pair should be an easy fold in many cases, but when I get aces pre-flop, it feels like i already won in my mind. It takes a lot of experience and discipline to go from that feeling to understanding that you are probably beat and should let it go. In this case, a stubborn AA holder would have come out on top.
Hank is either bluffing with something like a missed straight draw or he has Polk beat. He's not doing that with like KK or Qx IMO. My issue is he took so long, I know live tells aren't that great but what was he thinking about? I would imagine he was either thinking is his hand better than Polk's range or he was comtemplating a bluff.
How many value hands does he have against bluffs? His value hands are sets and two pair, I highly doubt he is calling big on the turn on the turn with just a gutter. So I would think he either has 33/44/Q8s/Q9s/QQ 17 combos against bluffs? 25s, 56s, A2s A5s, maybe 12 combos. If that are his bluffs, you are supposed to call given the pot odds. But I could be wrong about his bluffs, if you remove some of those hands it's a clear fold.
I don't know what I'd do, I guess in terms of blinds that's a very large bet playing deep. It seems a bit reckless to bluff since Polk has fired on all three streets, he has a big hand. I don't think it's the best spot to bluff so I'd probably fold my hand. But the tank earlier by Hank would have me wondering if he is pulling off a large bluff.
You have him on 99? Is he really calling on the turn with that hand? I think that would be a bad call, especially if you plan to fold to a river bet.
Edit: The river was $200K, not the turn.
What does on the turn on the turn mean? Is that some new language?
I would probably have been in a puddle muttering about my life choices facing that river decision. How Doug focuses here and works through the odds of his river call really impressed me.
Nicely played - both!
My read was wrong. I thought to instantly fold if I was in Doug’s shoes. What a play by him damn.
Doug is a calling machine. It was perfect run out board for Aces. How could he not call?
Tough call but feels bluff heavy. Only losing to J10, QQ, 99, don't think anything else is getting to this river. And you'd think a smaller bet size is more of a value size. But i have no idea how the guy usually plays. Tough spot for a huge dollar amount
I picked AK of diamonds and a call because I unblock the Ad. The only combo of J10 he calls 81k on the turn with is probably diamonds and we saw Tom fold the 10d (but Doug wouldn't know that). I don't know the player, but after he stuck it in he gave off a HUGE physical tell, passifying by hugging himself. Not always accurate, but knowing nothing else about him and unblocking missed diamonds I'd have called as played. It was close though.
I think at some point, even for Doug, the stakes matter. If it were 10% of these amounts, like $70K to call into a $140K pot, Doug would have called quickly. He says it's all GTO, but eventually fear takes over. After all, GTO assumes there will be a lot of hands like this one. But truth is there will not be, not for $1.4M.
After calling it, it would be worth more than $2 million.
@@PavelAveryanov Or approximately 19,000 hourly seat rentals at his card club. That's a lot of seat.
Q9s I guess? People hardly ever bluff when given no rope. Doug 3-bet pre, c-bet, and made 2 chunky bets on the turn and river. I think LSG was taking to figure out of AA and KK would call a jam and he wouldn't get snapped by 88, JTs that double barreled turn and the last remaining combo of QQ at a high enough frequency to justify jamming river. Edit: Wow I was so wrong LSG has some heart! Or should I say diamonds!!!
I thought for sure he had run into QQ. Just didn't think he would bluff into such a large pot. Props to his gutsy play.
that all in is either a bluff or a set, straight very unlikely. I though may AK suited or Ax suited like A10 that was floating to see if he either caught backdoor outs or an ace. On the other hand, it was a flopped sett or 88, I very much doubt he would have called the turn with 99, I actually thiught he had 44 to be honest, set mining preflop.
I was thinking that he binked some kind of Q9dd or JTdd hand or was turning some kind of KJdd/KTdd/QJdd/QTdd into a bluff. AJdd makes sense but wasn't what i was thinking. A set of 9s would make sense too but most other sets i would expect a raise at some point so I didn't give much credit to those.
I May be wrong but my pre(full) video guess for mystery hand was pocket pairs, suited connectors….so after the flip immediately guess pocket QQ or a straight draw with the board! Soooo I’m not saying I’m the best player or anything definitely far from but with turn river like that…immediate fold !!! Pocket A’s in my opinion can get you killeddd more than you will dominate with them!!
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And I mean you got ACES yes but….the board like that all you have is a pair sooo I mean I don’t see much call opportunity honestly!
Did I hear Tom's agonising scream from Tom and Jerry when Doug folded?
I do not know how Hank behaves otherwise, but when he is asked 'How much is it?' he goes intantly in a defensive mode with his body language. Of course it could be a trick as well. But I know for example Ivey when he asks his opponents, he always asks it for tells.
Is this tell obvious or on this level the players can play trick with these?
I’m gonna be honest i would have never ever expected AdJd there lol. Probably one of the last hands I’d expect to see there xD. He played it like a turned or rivered set. Here’s what I was thinking though. If he did have a set on the river I’d expect a shove after exactly 20sc-1 minute. Considering he tanked for the time he actually did, I expected slightly more bluffs. If he has a set he’s not taking extremely long, or jamming extremely quick. If I was Doug I would have leaned towards folding though.
Mmm cant over leverage a timing tell at this stakes. Their tanks should be pretty balanced with their value as well
Having two diamonds is bad for your bluffing hand here. It makes it less likely your opponent is bluffing with a busted flush draw, which makes it more likely he has a made hand which means they are more likely to call. You want AJ of clubs here
Yeah it’s not a great bluff. All he has for removal is the j, and considering Doug having J 10 being extremely unlikely makes the j removal pointless. Just a pure gamble bluff but it worked I guess
yer but he also has removal for ATd so having the J he can rep JTd. 1 of of looking at it maybe
Yes which is why winston says bad hand
@rugbychampion1 and others
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@rugbychampion1 and others
Maybe next time you guys play on a million dollar buy-in poker game you can show Doug and Lsg hank the correct combo of hands to use when you bluff all in for $700k
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2 reasons why i don't fold, # 1 if i can afford to play at those stakes then i can afford to lose that pot and #2 , lsg kept calling , people who do that are usually on a nut draw or a very good draw and when they miss they have no choice but to shove .
To me this is a clear fold, unless you have a rock-solid tell on the opponent that shows he is bluffing
P.S. Just imagine Phil H instead of Doug... How many bleeps would we need?
Did you see the way hank crossed his arms? In body language they call that a "soothing" position. I kept asking myself. Why is hank in a "soothing" position?
I thought the same, but no clue how he looks in other all ins when he has it
@MichaelJamesActually probably stoic as most seem to try and do.
Just like Polk taking a sip of his water while LSG contemplates his next move. All bullshit. And the clock should have been called the moment Polk started yakking, looking for tells. And all this nonsense with drawing the heart or spade twice is more bullshit. Play poker and quit trying to cheat. Leave the cheating to Hustler Live, they're very good at it.
I noticed it too, but that dude had a calmness to him after sending in that much $$ I figured him for a set of queens. Unreal play
@JeremyArnold-y9u yeah, but that could just be that he is already desensitized to those stakes and not any indication of strength. But who knows
I wonder if Doug checks river if he bluffs with something Doug can call or if he still jams, hes definitely still bluffing
I understand why we bet 200 on the river but it looks like we're trying to get value from a Q to be honest, I was thinking he might turn JJ or 1010 into a bluff too
I don't think we have J10 too often with the pre flop big raise and downbet flop bet but its possible, its just such a dry board
How could he have ATcc after calling turn?
That's why I like to get the AA all-in pre-flop or on the flop. Too many things can get there to beat just top pair. J10 straight could have made it on the river, or QQ 99 even seems reasonable. If my Aces get cracked on the flop, they get cracked. But let it linger on to the river, and anything can happen.
So you just shove 1000bb in a 30bb pot just so your opponent can't get there?
A 3-bet $30k pre-flop, then downsizing it to $24k on the flop was not a good bet. $120k would be standard, and $240k would be too much, but could incite an all-in bluff, which I would snap call. If he has QQ, he's not folding, anyway, and him not 4-betting pre-flop would make me think he didn't have QQ, anyway. Maybe AQ, JJ, but not AK, KK, or QQ. If he gets there with top set QQ vs my AA, oh well.
Everyone likes to get preflop all-in with AA, but this not a tournament. It’s 1000BB deep cash game. It’s like your local 1/3 game with $3000 stakes. You facing a $20 raise, looking at your cards and see AA, how much you 3betting? $500 so you can comfortably go all in on the flop or turn? If yes, how much you 3 betting with weaker hands like TT or AQ? Also $500 or something more adequate, like $75?
@@EbonKim in what world is a 2x flop cbet standard LMAO
The nuts is JT, one of the best hands in Doug his range is QQ. Therefore the most logical bluff would be QJdd.
I think 88/99 is too thin since Doug has hard time calling with over pairs and calls with QQ.
I think it’s closer to 40-50% random call. 1/4 is a bit light
I don’t think he tanks so long to shove the nuts, so no J10. I don’t think he shoves with anything other than 99 as played. I think Doug probably could’ve found a call easier than a fold.
3 barrels with AA bloated pot way too much should have checked the river... and snap call when Hank bets
If I am in Doug's shoes. I remember him saying that he was no longer going yo he afraid at the poker table. I also adopted that philosophy. I would have to call the overbet and live with the outcome. I can live with being beat. But getting.bluffed is hard to forget
Like the not showing 1 hand format
Making a possible straight would scare my aces away
Have to call. Don’t love it. AQd or KQd make most sense. Def raise preflight and would take this line.
Haven't watched the end. I'd call, Hank has a lot of flop floats with back door equity that would continue the turn and then could bluff river if missed A2s, a5s, a4cc, a3dd, even low suited connects 56, 67, 75. He does have pairs that have turned into sets. If he's bluffing it has to be missed diamond draw, if he has it it's probs top set, maybe Q9, my Spidey senses are saying call though....
I was right, missed diamonds. Didn't have him on AJs but I suppose that would be a natural bluff in that spot. Hanks body language looked like he wanted Doug to fold, crossed arms, took a while to make his move, Doug really wanted to call but he didn't give Hank credit for being able to bluff shove there.
Casually betting a house in Ohio just to fold to a house in California.
Very interesting spot I think AK Diamonds most likely but sometimes its QQ. The big bet on the turn 81k with the diamond makes me think he is only calling with a made hand like QQ or drawing hand like AK diamonds, I think AQ diamonds would have raised small flop bet.
I'd fold but I'm assuming he straight bluffing.
It's not worth paying to find out. Its a good spot to bluff.
To be fair, he was just hoping to hit an Ace on the river or another diamond. He got neither, so he just decided to use his big stack to bluff a big hand.
Bro he was projecting so much strength I would have folded much faster.
Wow, tough spot. I mean I don't think he has it, I think he has a queen, but man, I don't know if i have the balls to call for another $700k. The title of the video kind of gives it away but what are the chances he has JT, or 89? Seems unlikely. Does he chase a gut shot all the way to the river? Maybe he's slow playing pocket queens. But man, I think he has something like AQ or KQ, maybe JJ. Hard to blame Doug if he folds here. Its just so much money.
For sure a 20/20 hondsight hand but I was feeling AQ strongly from the turn.
I don't really like the river value bet - as played it seems hard to put him on a value hand that played it like this. 33 or 44 play it like this? Perhaps. I would of checked river though and I wouldn't of been in this mess.
Yep - I'm a fish.
That's why I never bet a high pair on the river.
Easy GTO math: the more hands you value betting the more hands you can bet as a bluff to keep balance.
Value: All the sets, JT (maybe). Bluffs: A2d,A5d,56d,56h,56c,J9d,T9d. Someone has to be getting pretty spicy or using low paired hands (eg. K3s) to find enough bluffs here. I fold. My gut says pocket QQ.
I put him on the bluff, but I don't know if I can call there
LSG Hank believed that Doug had overcards, and that Doug would correctly fold his overcards to an all-in bet. Doug would have been better off by betting so as to indicate that he had a made hand.
Under the circumstances, I would have checked my AA
If you feel trapped, you probably are.
In my local cashgame this is a pure fold 100% of the time. At low stakes people are not creative enough to find a bluff here. AQ is a better call here I think because we block the Q9, Q8 combos he migth have but I think otherwise against a competent player we are indifferent here.
Perfect poker robot says 30%, so I say 25%. Absolutely insane.
If I bet three times and i get raised on the river I'm usually folding at 0.02/0.05 on Stars cos if you have as low as the 2nd nuts youre usually smoked.
JT or 99 for JSG imo
I thought 10s or Js and just jam liberally with blocker knowing doug cant really have J10...didn't think he could call flop with AJ or A10 tho
I put him on A5 diamonds. Crazy bluff, took some serious guts
Hindsight is 20/20. Polk probably had something big from his preflop raise. AK and AA were certainly in his range. AK missed the flop, but Polk bet big again. Less likely he has AK, supported by another big bet on the turn. LSG figures he has AA, or KK. An all-in 3-bet bluff on the river has a good chance to spank AA, so LSG takes it. Polk played his AA too strongly and got his ass kicked. The all-in on the river is bluffy as hell, especially when it's easy to assume that LSG figures you for pocket AA, and knows you can't call an all-in with a single pair hand, even an overpair.
Another key thing here- if doug says this shit about flipping the cards and its not binding. Clearly can see Hank isn't relaxed at all at that point and extremely likely bluffing now.. If somehow he could play some of these mind games eventually could get some insane information out of Hank.
still thinking not knowing yet- i think lsg has a pocket pair- is it a queen? i would hate to fold rockets after investment- i think i would still fold but its not my final answer- ?? he got a pocket pair? i doubt hed call the flop with 10 J- fuh he plays like he has set queens- and my play lately dont have no bluffing- if a guy goes all in at u then u need to stop- not final answer jon- wtf he got? pocket pair? set Q?- and bak to the vid> can doug "soul read"- i dont know> just ask him what he has
Call, I unblocked the backdoor A♦︎x♦︎ that floated the flop.
Would have called. I had him potentially on JJ or AJd making a move. Can’t get to the river and fold on missed diamonds without that bluff in your arsenal.
Interesting thing about the new generation, they don’t look at their opponents at all during the hand. He is staring at the board trying to think of combos. Tells aren’t everything, but should be at least a bit of the equation. They tip tough decisions
He looked at him but if he doesn't react you cant read some people
@ he displayed multiple tells from Mike Cari’s and Joe Navajos books. Easy to be said from the side rail for sure, but he was displaying many tells of unease
@@Pyrok007
You can fake these tells too, I don't know, I think it's easy to say if you see the result at the end tbh
@@CanariasCanariass That's exactly how you read him. He looks like a bluffer terrified of being found out.
If he were a known top flight player he'd be balancing fake tells and real tells. The unknown guy who plunked down a million in the TV game, the guy no one knows anything about? Take him literally.
Tells are completely unreliable and almost never useful vs experienced players
EAsy call for doug. He's never shoving all in there with trips or two pair and if you've hit the backdoor straight then god bless you you're getting all my chips.
What trips? The board is not paired...
AK and I call... Doug played it like AA or KK, his opponent thought about it for a minute or so and seems to be trying to make him fold... if he has a set he wins. I'm not folding. Doug could have simply check -called river rather than bet-fold... Also like he said there's just not that many sets, 99 folds turn... back door diamonds miss, I think he's gotta call... Easier said than done
Why make the video twice as long as it needed to be. There is no point in watching the flop, turn, and the river twice.
9:01 Bloody tough call, I couldn't. If it's not a bluff, QQ seems most likely even though I know I'll be wrong. Let's see!
Honestly, if I had plenty of money in the bank, and not worry about money at all, I would have made the call. I just don't think anything makes sense for him to have anything other than a possible set , but most likely a bluff. While watching this video, I was 80% sure it was a bluff
The title of the video kind of tells me what Doug should do against the all-in. Who is that other mook to the left of LSG putting his hands on somebody else's chips?
Look… when playing high stakes and you get aces… you must always limp, flat, check, pot control, get to the river cheap and treat them like the drawing hand they are. 😅
If I was at the table I would fold. From my coach though, it's a call. We lose to sets and TJdd and not much else and there are enough hands bluffing here for the call (need to win ~1/3 of the time)
I was thinking LSG had 33. It's a fold for me, but then again, I'd not play AA that agressivvely at all. I suck.
The title is influencing me but I think he has pocket 8. Or jacks.
Largest pot was 3.1 M on hustler so it wouldn’t have been @11:40
I'd call in Doug's spot. Only hand he loses to is pocket 8's
“Whatever size Polk makes it it’s the right sizing” these guys blow him smh
He was telling the story that he had 88. It’s a shit ton of money though haha. If all things are relative to my stakes of 2/5, I call majority of the time and just chalk it up to a good hit. But there’s a luxury home in that pot, so I certainly understand the fold.
2d5d? Bluff river? Board changing nuts on river. Good bluff if a bluff
It's never good to get put all in when all you have is a single pair and your opponent calls every bet you make. For me, this is an obvious fold.
Why does Doug bet on the River?
There are not many worse hands that are calling. Maybe AQ, KQ, QT, JJ, TT
All other combos would either fold or Raise (33, 44, 88, 99, QQ, TJ. Q8s, Q9s).
So isnt it better to control the pot and check call the river?
Idk, im just a rec.
I agree with you. One of the best pieces of advice I've heard was to "play small pots with small hands, and big pots with big hands". AA is a big hand preflop, but in this case, its only a single pair. I think checking would be better there. Then you're comfortable calling a smaller bet by your opponent, and it makes it less likely they rip it in. Would Hank have ripped it in if Doug would have just checked?
Simple bet-fold spot. Yes, there aren't a lot of worse combos that call, but notice every single one of those combos (besides maybe AQ) snap checks back on river. This is of course a much higher level game but in most games you really, really don't have to worry about players turning AJdd into a river jam bluff, it just never happens. So with that in mind I think it makes a lot more sense to value bet river.
@@hennman Ofc that most players aren bluffing and most players going to pay you with way worse. Startegy is all player dependant and Doug kinda expects Hank that he is capable of turning showdown value into bluff which is high-level play and simply not in many players arsenal especially recreationals.
I hate pocket aces I routinely fold them in lots of situations
"Why'd you call the flop" cause it was a small ass bet duh
I dont know DPs BR here but i would imagine its not the usual 100-200 times the buy-in… so i would fold bc the game is too big for my current hand in the situation at hand
damn my boi Gman would have snapped called that in a second…where is gman btw?
100% a call. There was nothing there. Dog also fell to read his opponent. His eye blinked like crazy.
Not a fan of Polk but I don't think that he got "owned." Sure he was confused but he didn't fold to the bluff. He basically flipped a coin to make a decision that he felt pressured to resolve. Same outcome but not the same. Kudos to Hank for a ballsy bluff. Btw, the commenting between every street is annoying af and some of the analysis is incorrect.
Tom is supposedly 30m in the hole, no wonder he is looking so tired.
Hard to call there, every time I see someone call with Aces in that kind of spot they are getting kicked in the cooter by two pair.
10:38 👈🏼🙄 What 🐠Airball is doing? Touching other’s player chips !!
He does that CONSTANTLY. Just one of the dozens of things that make him soooooo annoying.
He thinks he runs the place
@@jeffeyjeffey8 and can even run his game properly !! 😁
I notice he always does that.....not sure why it's allowed
He's such an unnecessarily helpful dork, just a tool.
Doug took so much time to fold 😂 after a re-raise like that, you only beating a bluff and it’s too much money to try to find out.
He is counting the combos of value hands and combos of bluffs. There are a lot more value jams than bluffs here. This is why he is probably calling with a 1/3 or 1/4 frequency.
@@robtaylor8816 I don’t agree…to me He was just lamenting the turn of events and because of pride made the gimmicks with the cards. But think about it, Doug made the $200K as a value bet wishing that Hank has QK QJ (I actually thought He had Q♦️9♦️)…but any two pairs, sets or straight beats Doug so calling an extra $700K with a single pair against a re-raise is not a reasonable choice at all.
@@junito1008 if you have watched Doug before, you will know he often randomizes his river decisions like this. He is calling some percentage of the time here as there are absolutely some bluffs (but not too many) in villain's range. If you are folding AA all the time in this spot, you are deviating from optimal game theory.
To be a good poker player you have to think of the chips as chips and not as moneys. And this is a game and to make the best decisions based on the game. I know he let the amount of money influence his decision. These stakes are too high for him to play.
Didn't you watch the video? He didn't fold, he called 1/4 the time.
Doug gets owned? Well.. No! This fold is "ok" or better and life goes on..
I would not have folded. I know its an insane amount of money, but if this is a tournament this is clearly a call.
Because it's more money than Doug can tolerate, he can't think rationally and makes an emotional decision.
Really only pocket 9s got there. Everything else had good opportunity to extract more value out of Doug sooner.
Remember, doug could have been on a diamond draw, or had 5, 6; in which case why would the opponent (who has a set or two pair) not make you pay for it when you're doing the raising?
Raise, call --> Raise, call that's almost always a hit on the river or a bluff incoming.
His decision to randomize is actually not emotional at all. The solver wants to call and fold about half and half, he gave it 25%. The theory is even so unless you got a read, it's sound
I’m folding that deep. Mostly because I would never have the guts to make a bluff like that, that deep. 😮
I put him on AQ and call, that shove on the river didn't make any sense