Been a government employee for 15 years, before that spent 21 years of military service working with civil service employees. EVERYONE knows that the whole hiring and accountability process in civil service is a joke. Almost impossible to fire under performers. Its why nobody wants these people around.
yes .. had 27 years as a civil engineer civilian employee with 4 agencies ... we learned to live with the 80/20 rule .. 80% of the problems are caused by 20% of the people .. and 80% of the work is done by 20% of the people .. and your 'job' as a manager was to motivate the middle 60% to shift to the right of the bell curve ..
Exactly why I am not totally upset with RFK Jr's appt. Some of these Dept need a house cleaning. Ezra once again just attacks or lumps RFK jr into a crazy column, but he has never said he is anti-vax...he wants them tested as other drugs are tested...l don't see what is wrong with this. Also he wants to bring down the connection between the agency and Big Pharma which has the opportunities for Corruption...I don't see anything wrong with this either. I did not vote Repub...but I don't like what the left does in reporting on some of these people...misrepresenting their positions..same as what Fox does to them..Stop It...report the Truth and what they actually say and want.
I have a friend who works in DOD who has said similar things... but he's also pointed out everyone knows Republicans are not interested in accountability. They are not looking to fire under-performers, they are looking to fire liberals/progressives or people who aren't MAGA.
I live and work in DC. There're plenty of very bright, extremely hardworking federal employees and contractors. There's also a few that stroll in at 10 a.m., take 2-hour lunch breaks, and then leave for the day at 2 p.m. If you ask these types to do anything work-related, they'll report you to HR for harassment.
@@justgivemethetruth Why would people make this up? What incentive do they have? I work for contractors and it's egregious on that level. I can't even imagine the deeper and to Washington.
@@enokoner No one can get into the minds and motivations of another, and especially someone they do not know. Don't ask me to explain their motives, but pointing the finger at people and vilifying workers sounds like unproven NS to me.
IF it is true that they wanted Rogan to fly to her, and limit it to an hour, it just further reinforces how out of touch the staff was with the population more broadly - and Rogan.
So rogan's the number one podcast in the country. Every single guy that I know listens to him. I don't understand how Rogan is out of touch since he's an opinion maker, sadly.
She is too indecisive and too unlikable to sit down for a three-hour interview with anyone. Her staff knew it and that’s why the interview never happened.
Can we fire Elon Musk? Peter Thiel, or the Federalist Society or Heritage 2025 Foundation members? They appear to have more influence over the direction of the Government going forward.
Bernie Sanders was at the forefront of an idea that there was a vast untapped resource of disaffected voters who truly yearned for socialism. It's just not true. It might have been possible to credibly believe that as late as 2008, maybe 2012. But reality has caught up. He ran behind Harris in his own Senate race this year. I'm sorry to report that the American people do not, in fact, yearn for socialism. I understand you really wished that it was the case.
@@OhioVworld You know, who are you to tell someone what kind of education they want. If you pay for people to go to college you pay for people to go to college. You don't get to dictate what they study. You pay for a 4 year degree and if they can't manage to do it in 4 years, then that's their problem.
When i worked in the government, it was a bunch of affirmative action hires who slept at their desk all day and did nothing. This was at the DEA. I’m really excited about the possibility of dramatically reducing the government workforce. We need to be able to get rid of low performers
I agree completely but I wouldn't blame affirmative action. Imo the laziness, indifference, and lack of productivity apply to all demographics. IMO they had to find a place for all of those humanities graduates who were otherwise unemployable.
@ you’re right that it applies to all demographics in the government. The affirmative action thing was kind of a joke, but at the same time, kind of not. Seems weird that half of the people hired at the DEA just happened to be black women 😂
The courts are getting rid of Affirmative Action. But they seem to have a difficult time getting rid of nepotism and other biases in hiring. Without delving into the history of the US, folks know the practices above still exist and aren't as advantageous to minorities. Some examples of this are coaching jobs in the NFL (see the upcoming class action legal proceedings) and in college football.
The government has been failing for most of us a long time. There are too many loopholes written into laws that are being abused for the benefit of a few. And there is no accountability at the top because one side is afraid the other side will do the same to them. This election won't change it and neither will the next. The system needs a major reboot and A.I. needs to play a major role in that reboot.
In my house we're sane, pissed off, and not 🚫 accepting Stupid as the New Smart. Hope I'm still in it this time next year. Unfortunately I can't take it with me to some boring country run by grownups 😬
Well, the PEOPLE are very excited about RFK’s appointment - according to yesterday’s Pew Poll ( with approximately 70% approving-especially suburban women )….
I'd need a link to that. The polls I see are 60% or less. I would also question whether the poll indicates support for his confirmation or agreement with his positions. And among his positions, those on processed food (broadly accepted) or vaccine and fluoridation skepticism (whackadoo).
My left-leaning friends want to fix institutions by giving them more resources. I never hear these same friends talk about efficiency or accountability when it comes to government institutions. Plan > Leadership > Accountability > People > Resources
One of the great successes of Tony Blair’s New Labour government of 1997-2010 was that he conditioned extra resources on profound structural reforms of the institutions receiving those funds. The result was, e.g. with the NHS, cutting the waiting lists of those seeking non-urgent surgeries to the lowest since records began. Much to be learned from that, whatever you make of Iraq.
@@yvonnefarrell1029 Removing social security benefits for high income earners isn't it efficient in your mind? Stop being dogmatic. ANY large institution has efficiencies and cuts that can be made.
I love hearing you guys slice and dice in the same way the dem party splits hairs til there’s nothing useful remaining. People are broke or poor, they live hand to mouth. It’s the economy stupid.
Yes thing were better once. Before Reagan, 58.5% of America was Middle Class. In 1971 when Nixon took us off the gold standard America had its richest and largest (61%) Middle Class. Most all decline in America is because of REPUBLICANS. Nixon's removing the dollar from the Gold Standard cause all the inflation of the 70's. Ford allowed gold to be owned again as an investment, the rich could now bet against our own economy. Reagan sold trickle down promising deficit would be lower, salaries would be higher and he started for profit hospitals. Instead deficits soared, labor got suppressed and now healthcare take 30% of a families income! Where Clinton left surpluses on the based on Social Security surpluses that should have lasted till 2009. A all Republican Government did another unfunded tax cut for the rich that made those surpluses deficit. Add all the mismanagement that Republican government did, you got the Financial crisis! Obama gave Trump an economy growing, producing jobs and the lowest deficit in the 9 years. Trump made those deficits worse with another unfunded tax cut and then mismanaged Covid to the point of creating chaos. Biden come in, gets bills passed, has our economy soar over the rest of the worlds, and this stupid country thinks Trump was better! We know have the Government we deserve. As Obama said ""If you think education is expensive, wait until you see how much ignorance costs the 21st century". Now we will know!
I know lmfao. "hmmm maybe it's the institutional shift towards accepting trans people, hmmmm 🤔" 80% OF AMERICANS ARE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND YOU CAUSED AN INSANE AMOUNT OF INFLATION. They're being the snobby out-of-touch liberals they are complaining about
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@@charlesmartino1456 Reagan started all our problems with de-regulation. Since Reagan, income inequality has gotten worse and worse! Astronomical corporate profits! Monopolies that cause price gauging! Democracy on the decline! get real people, Reagan was the biggest single impactor of what everyone is bitching about and Republicans continue to carry that torch, that says, help the wealthy! That'll end up helping everyone! That's the opposite of what happens! They make more and more by investing in the stock market owned 93% by the top 10%, bottom 50% owns only 1%, and continue to raise CEO pay and be responsive only to shareholders, this whole thing benefits the rich and then they have so much sway over government and all they care about is not paying taxes and decreasing government. Cutting government means giving more money to the rich. Services help equalize things more. More services, more safety nets, fewer hours and better pay for workers, unions, and prioritizing long-term (and short term) threats that are also very costly by battling climate and the hegemony of big oil....that's what we need, and it's just not rocket science at all. As the Bible says, selfishness is bad. Universal love is good. Not that I think the Bible is a legitimate source of truth per se.
Don't allow revisionism of the covid pandemic. One of the main factors in lockdowns was the amount of infections, the countries that were hit the hardest locked down after the wave to save their healthcare systems, it was a response to circumstances. After the wave, meaning the likes of the UK had covid in December and locked down in March. Sweden, that didn't lockdown, had several times more deaths from covid than their neighbours who locked down, although they still had proportionally far less than the UK, Spain, France, Italy, or the US. Sweden also had almost all the negative effects associated with lockdowns that their neighbours had because it was behaviour driving it, not lockdowns. Any dense population centre is going to lockdown in a pandemic.
I think there was a case for lockdowns in early 2020, but by late 2020 it was clear most deaths were among people past the average life expectancy, and a lot of deaths were caused by interventions (e.g. intubation) rather than the infection itself, which is understandable as doctors were figuring out how to treat a novel virus they didnt have experience with. Even so, given the available evidence, it didn't make sense to keep schools closed, and that was documented in the Great Barrington Declaration. By fall 2021, when the vaccines were available to all, it definitely didn't make sense to keep schools closed. There was a cost-benefit analysis that needed to be had publicly, but instead you had Anthony Fauci saying "if you disagree with me you disagree with Science", which really soured a lot of people, especially when he had initially said at the start that masks would be ineffective and then later admitted he said that to prevent a run on PPE supplies. For me, once I understood authorities were willing to lie for the "greater good", I lost faith they were ever telling the whole truth.
@@coffeebuzz69 I agree, about there being better ways to manage the pandemic from late 2020 than blanket lockdowns. Also there's evidence that sooner less strict lockdowns were just as effective. The lockdowns were only necessary because intervention was left too late. About the deaths being caused by medical intervention of the virus, that might be true, but covid still has a high mortality among those past the average life expectancy, and more importantly for every death there were more who survived with life altering injury. The pandemic wasn't just one of millions of deaths, but several times more that spent months gravely ill, with damage to the heart, brain, and lungs. The masks thing probably did more damage than anything. Masks aren't important (because the medical profession needs them) until masks are very important. I haven't really seen any apology about that either.
@@coffeebuzz69 You got your statistics wrong. The average life expectancy of an 80-year old is another 8 years. It's not "average life expectancy minus current age".
Yeah, I agree. But people lacked the understanding and they have deep distrust in institutions (vaccines are seen as an institutional intervention). So, basically, the voters blamed the messengers. Strangely enough, the actual people to blame would be the Republicans as they were around in the beginning. Likewise, it was the Trump administration that oversaw the vaccine development. I think one would have to research how many people voted against Trump in 2020 because of their handling of the pandemic and how many of those people voted for Trump in 2024 because of the Democrat's handling of the pandemic.
@@lodepublishing for an individual, I agree with your stat. But I was referring to the population average, which isnt wrong. When dealing with public policy, the cost-benefit impact to the whole public needs to be considered. I'd argue the response taken aimed to minimize death at the cost of all else. But now we need to deal with a generation of children with disrupted education, not to mention a lack of trust in our institutions.
Rather than constantly bringing in "experts" with a stack of letters behind their names for your show, why don't you actually spend some time talking the folks you're trying to understand?
Speaking of risk reduction, can you do a podcast on political backlashes, and ways to reduce the swings? There seems to be two overlapping forces that paralyze individuals in politics and the govt. One is institutions slowing everything down, but at the same time, if you every actually do anything, the social backlash is overwhelming. For example, yes the govt can't build anything, but local govt actions during COVID showed the govt can actually do things. Similarly, tim Walz got called a communist and extremist for free food in school. Individual ideas that have 70-90% support, until they're done and then everyone hates it. It seems like you can do no right; either you keep your head down and don't get anything meaningful done, or you get meaningful things done but people don't like it and get you fired or unelected. Seem to have 10 years of nothing, them 2 years of action, then everyone gets furious bc you went too far, them it swings back and we undo whatever was done. How do we get out of this cycle?
WHY are you “surprised “ with ppl’s hatred of BLUE-RUN CITIES?? ….You prioritize “rhetoric” and “intentions” over efficiency and common sense…. There’s a reason that a perennial “purple” State (FL) became solid Red under the efficient & results-oriented leadership of DeSantis; reasons why ppl are fleeing Blue States & cities for Red Texas & Atlanta…..”Judge a person not by what they SAY, but by what they DO” my Dad always said ( apparently, a lot of folks feel the same way )….
Google US states ranked by per capita income, average household wealth, homicide rate, high school graduation rate, literacy rate, average education level, and life expectancy. Let me know when you notice a certain theme start to emerge.
@ ….I spoke of CITIES, not States; even in deep Red States, their largest cities are Blue ……The fact that crime & general disorder are universally lower, per capita, in a “poorer, less educated” Mobile, AL vs. a much more affluent & educated Chicago, only proves my point …. Rather than sneering at Red States for their relative poverty ( and the most commonly-mentioned gripe : their relative dependence on Blue States for wealth transfers ), you might wish to keep in mind another “statistic” : Red States overwhelmingly do the fighting & the dying for this country ( which allows Blue State youth to generally take a pass )….
@@Shineon83 "BLUE-RUN CITIES" is redundant. There are no conservative major cities in the country, because the Republican platform only makes sense if you live in the middle of nowhere, where you can go months without ever having to talk to anyone who doesn't look, speak, and think like you do. Every city, whether safe and affluent, or poor and dangerous, is majority Dem, so cherrypicking the bad examples is absurd. States, on the other hand, are evenly split, and there is near-perfect correlation between the most conservative, and the poorest, the most dangerous, the least healthy, the least educated, etc. It is an objective fact that where Republicans try to govern anything more diverse than a suburban HOA, it leads to poverty, illiteracy, grotesque inequality, and lives of misery and penury for working people. Vote Republican if you want the country to be more like Mississippi, vote for the most progressive candidates on the ballot if you want it to be more like Massachusetts. I'm sure you'd claim that you want the whole country to be prosperous and safe, but in reality you happily suffer as long as you think the people you hate will be even worse off. It's why you see so many Trump signs on the crabgrass lawns of dilapidated ranch houses, and on 20+ year old vehicles.
@@williamjameslehy1341 FL & TX are extremely diverse (upwards of 40% Latino, and large AA populations)….And their populations are becoming MORE Republican, due to results-oriented leadership….You spew unthinking Dem talking points-without stating the bloody obvious: That almost all “Blue-run” cities have NEVER, ever elected a Republican (so they have nothing to compare their current, piss-poor standard of living to)…. You also surely are aware that with 90%+ of inner-city AAs automatically, year-after-year, voting for the same Party-without ever even considering (or hearing) the Republican-it’s hardly surprising that Dems keep being reelected to continue their corruption & their inept “leadership”….AAs are the only group in the U.S. who can’t wait to give their votes away to a Party that treats them with greater indifference every year ( giving all of the “goodies,” housing & healthcare to undocumented Latinos-who they far prefer as their new voters-while starving their most loyal voters)….( And they’re laughing up their sleeves at the “suckers” who vote for them anyway :)
@@Shineon83 "Results-oriented" lmfao. Google US states ranked by per capita income, average household net worth, average education level achieved, life expectancy, infant and maternal mortality, homicide rate, incarceration rate, or basically any other quality-of-life metric. Let me know when you notice a certain theme start to emerge.
The introduction is a very good summary of why I abandoned the Democratic Party; however, having said that, this past cycle I voted straight Democratic ticket because I absolutely loath Trump and the clown car that the Republican Party has become. But I have to tell you that I will take deep pleasure in voting Conservative in Canada‘s election next year to see the backside of Trudeau. This is not as paradoxical as it would seem. Trudeau and his progressive policies have been a disaster for Canada. I cannot emphasize that strongly enough.
The issue is that the CPC isn't going to do any good for Canada at all, especially under Pierre. All he's run on is wedge identity issues and he's as crooked and paid for as any other politician. And Trudeau's Liberals hardly legislated real progressive policies, the LPC have always been left of center and that's it. Sure, more left of center than the Democrats on a lot of things, but that's not saying much. Many of the actual progressive ideas that got Trudeau elected are popular across the spectrum, like cannabis legalization, but many were abandoned once he was elected, like electoral reform. People rightfully want a change but Pierre and the CPC are just not it. They're too Trumpian and identity driven. We need another Jack Layton or something. We need a new NDP leader that can galvanize the working class to want actual leadership. I know they won't, but I wish the parties up north would learn something from the way the Democrats have acted and are responding to this election. Trudeau should announce he's not running for reelection on like January 1st and they should try and find a suitable replacement to socialize to the public if they want a CHANCE at a minority government come October. The NDP honestly should too, but I think they need a genuine message and policy shift to get people excited about them again. Unfortunately, Singh's brand isn't strong enough to win enough votes, I think. It's a shame, I'm sure at least some of it is due to implicit bias and racism, but he's also been unable to shake the image of a young idealist, imo. But somehow also seeming just as out of touch as Trudeau I guess at least in part due to the NDP's support of the Liberals in parliament. Canada needs policy shifts, but a lot of the day-to-day harm people are feeling is also being caused by the vast number of Conservative premieres currently in power who have worked to undermine federal efforts to improve or fund things like healthcare and infrastructure spending. If the CPC gets in federally, they'll run the same playbook of dismantling social safety nets and blaming immigrants, the Liberals, and probably trans people (that seems to not have worked as well up north as in the US, at least in some cases, like NB's recent provincial election). If actual progressive policy was enacted regarding healthcare, housing, labour, elections, etc., I think Canadians would be way better off and it would force the Cons to move left on some issues like they had to in the past. But Trudeau's LPC are just Conservative Lite with slightly better social stances, at least on paper. The CPC has swung cynically to the right to ride the wave of angry populism coming from the south, but we need positive populism or something new entirely to see actual people surviving and thriving in the true North, strong and Free. Identity politics are just politics. Those who hate "woke" stuff have made that part of their own identity and they feel like their identities are under threat or being cast aside and derided. But cynical conservative politicians are using that to steer those people into issues and causes that are against their own interests. Most people in Canada (and the US) would benefit from progressive policies and practices. Even with immigration - it's not a progressive or left stance to allow the abuse of TFWs by corporations to keep wages down while they continue to raise prices and brag about it. Having a focus on the well-being of the people you're supposed to be governing is a benefit to everyone, except those that seek to and benefit from the exploitation of the working class. We all want the same things and we're constantly pointed at the wrong causes and obstacles, encouraged to fight instead of unite. But the answer isn't to just point the other direction when one side has used up our good graces. That's been Canadian politics for decades at least and it's worked well enough to maintain a status quo, but we need more than that now and there's too many in power trying to take advantage of the predictable back and forth, allowing malicious and detrimental people into positions of leadership to more directly serve their monied interests. We're stuck with shitty status quo vs not status quo no matter how just as shit or shittier it is. We deserve better, we need better. North and South of 49th parallel.
I'll be happy to see Trudeau leave too and agree he's been a disaster, but I highly doubt the Conservatives will be able to get Canada back to a good place. Coming from someone that lives in Alberta, Conservative governments are just as obsessed with meaningless identity politics as Liberals are, just from a different direction. I had to watch Alberta pass education reforms recently that were soley focused on "pro-parent" ie anti-trans/anti-sex ed policies instead of reducing class sizes, hiring more teachers and care aids... its such a joke. When I was a kid, every disabled/learning issue kid had a single aid assigned to them, now its 4-6 of these kids to one aid and class sizes over 35 kids large with half of them having serious behavioural issues. The Conservatives haven't presented a single original idea of how to fix anything, all they do is insult other people and promise to end "wokeness". I'll be happy when they get in too because them coming in and failing us too is the only thing that will make you and the rest of our countrymen wake up to fact that we need to COMPLETELY restructure our country, economy and our society in general. But then again you're half a yank, so I don't know how much you even care
@@natedogg890 hey, I'm half a yank and I care very much haha. But I completely agree (and echo a lot of this sentiment in my own comment). Just like in the states, we need a dramatic change to the system and government that prioritizes actually providing services and support for its citizens.
55:10 As a right leaning Libertarian type living in CO, I can confirm that Polis pandemic approach was the best of any blue state governor by a large margin, probably one of the best and most data driven pandemic responses in the US. He is also the only Democrat I have ever heard advocate for elimination of state income tax in CO, basically the anti Gavin Newsome. I don't agree with him on many policies, but he has been a solid governor in what has become a very blue state.
“This (self id) breaks institutions, and specifically, it breaks them at their point of purpose. If an organisation was set up to educate, it starts to indoctrinate - to teach lies, and punish anyone who points out that they are lies. If it was set up to do safeguarding, it starts to work to increase the risks of harm and abuse for vulnerable people. If it was set up to promote free speech, it becomes a censor. If it was set up to support and strengthen women, it instead starts to sideline and put down women and promote men in their place.” Dr Helen Joyce, Genspect, “What Will It Take To Return To Reality?”
You couldn't have diagnosed Heritage Foundation & their inane, self-serving anti-Democratic project 2025 any better. Couple that with the Far Right becoming mainstream media through propaganda outlets that spout nonsense 24/7/365. IE: Musk bought Twitter to control speech, move the dialogue Far Right.
Where were these discussions in the last 12 years? Not in mainstream media that's for sure. It took Trump for these self reflections to be broadcast? Thank him him for saving the democratic party from sleep walking into the abyss.
This is such a very important topic! Think about public schools vs. vouchers. How often do public schools fail to provide the education students need? And maybe you don’t like vouchers, but shouldn’t the individual student matter as much as the institution of public schools? I love the institution of public schools, but I also want students to have choices if their public school is not providing them the education they need.
@@Rustyshackelford177 Tesla wouldn't have survived unionization in, say, 2012. The irony there is that Tesla wouldn't have survived in 2012 if it wasn't for generous federal government subsidies issued a few years earlier, designed to sustain green energy startups. But by 2020, Tesla was doing just fine, as was Musk, and they could have had collective bargaining. Musk simply wants to own everything and take credit for everything.
@@benjaminnead8557 no company wants to unionize because unions are not good for business - especially the auto industry. Unions add cost, delay innovation, and prevent businesses from making necessary decisions. They may be good for some workers (mostly poor performers) - right up to the point management has to close the plant.
@@Rustyshackelford177 it's a little ridiculous to be so anti-union after the last 2 decades. Union wages have been flat relative to profits and executive pay. There's a huge wealth gap in the US and lagging and worker wages is a huge part of it.
@@uromvictor Trump and the current GOP/ MAGA have lied the most about the pandemic, the far right continues to dodge responsibility through lies, and misinformation. Rewriting history is a tried & true technique to manufacture consent.
Lots to unpack here. Three points that go unnoticed: (1) for decades the GOP has done nothing to create better government - embracing instead a “do nothing” approach or institutional self-sabotage to further an agenda of outsourcing traditional public services to private donors, which enables (2) ongoing graft and crony capitalism - our national religion. (3) Look around. The federal workforce accomplishes so much more than is given credit - but we rarely notice, because the messaging focuses on negative stories, and we’re too busy blaming the poster child of low-output employees, who by the way exist in private sectors, too. No one can seem to explain what Trump’s tear-it-down-and-replace-with-loyalists approach will accomplish, other than some sort of temporary feel-good about laying off a bunch of employees and adding them to the unemployment rolls.
What a joke this is. The failings of the agencies have been laid out over and over and over by the very people who have been nominated by Trump to lead them (among others). But because most progressives live inside their bubble, you have no idea what these critiques are.
Exactly! Successful Right Wing Oligarchs prefer to seal off opportunities for others to safeguard their wealth and power under the guise of "fixing government.' It's just another bait & switch con.
You are not paying for HSR. You are not paying for anything with your taxes. Every time Congress passes a bill funding anything it's new money into the system. That we depend on taxation for federal spending is a tale told by people who want to keep poor people poor.
@@scpatl4nowi guess the idea is that government taxes by printing money which deflates the currency thus deflating value of any savings (basically a hidden tax on savings) and deflating effective amount of national debt (what's another trillion if today's trillion is tomorrow's billion?)
@@davidpolansky5848 Well, if you think people in the US all have too much money and that there wont be enough stuff for them to buy, then I guess we should worry about inflation, but right now any inflation we just had was either supply shock or price gouging and had nothing to do with too much money in everyone's hands
One of those no longer useful processes, would probably be accepting the Parliamentarians claim that an Increase in the minimum wage would resmduce the federal tax base.
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Your intro reminds me why I am an independent and not a democrat. RFK is my least upsetting pick, for the reasons you cite. I'm very concerned about health, disease, environmental, food supply etc. things he was good on before the brain worms. Vaccine stuff is nuts and he's not at all qualified, but breaking some of our broke food and health systems would be good actually. The left went cultishly insane during COVID. Just embarrassing really.
Betting on a guy to do some good that’s proven to be completely irrational and in my opinion narcissistic believing he’s the one to fix things he doesn’t understand is a problem. Pseudoscience pushers should not be in charge of policy even if he’s right 2 out of 10 times on something
@@Yayamagee I have a hard time understanding the level of pollyannaish optimism involved in believing that putting a bunch of crazy morons in charge of our institutions might fix them. There are so many more ways for something to be broken than there are for it to work right. Have we learned nothing?
The HR approach for hiring described here is exactly the same for virtually 22:27 every major employer. The match is done through automated matches (word matches for job experience and prior experience). To single out the federal hiring process is a disservice. Corporations don't do a better job of hiring.
In corporations (at least in my experience) the hiring manager interviews at least 4 candidates. If the hiring manager doesn't find someone who fits the job, (despite the resume vetting and word matches) the corporation does not make a job offer.
Large corporations are a minority of total employment in the US. Companies under 400 employees don't have the luxury of hiring or retaining people who don't pull their weight.
I lived in BC during the pandemic and we had schools closed down after spring break in 2021 and an extended Christmas break. I had 2 children in school and it was a challenging time. The masks mandate, I don’t really understand what the big deal was, it’s just a simple mask and even if has little effect it does cut down on the spit that comes from your mouth when you talk. It’s a fact that the pandemic really changed how people think about their government and that’s what was reflected in the last US election and the future one to come here in Canada
I have a healthy diet of center left podcasts I listen to, Ezra Klein is one of them, seeing guests entertain the idea that we should throw the trans community under the bus if approval falls below 51% and just leaving that in the air is fucking radicalizing. It just feels so hypocritically wrought with the same political austerity and hollowness they're criticizing here. That the Democratic Party's support for some of the most vulnerable people in society should just be minimized to appease an electorate that seems increasingly eager to make their lives worse. It's just so heartless and ugly, man. Donald Trump and the 2024 election has destroyed the Democratic moral fabric.
Why would you need a party that cannot win elections, which are decided by majority of voters, which majority doesn't really like culturally progressive stuff? To shout in opposition? Because they won't do anything without the mandate anyway.
@@firion666 As Ezra Klein wrote about many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many times… we live in a hyper-polarized society. There is a bigger base of voters left-of-center than whatever the fuck Dems think a Liz Cheney-Kamala Harris voter is. Democrats bet on their being a strong centrist class and their wasn’t. Progressives still perform strong in races, they still dominate air time, there are still people going to bat for Bernie eight years on. If you continue to run a Republican lite campaign the Democrats will continue to hemorrhage voters. It’s that simple.
Not giving trans people everything they want is not "throwing them under the bus." The trans activist agenda is seen as anti-common sense by most people. Sorry.
When you say "anti Trans" to describe keeping biological men out of women's sports and bathrooms, or limiting hormonal and surgical treatments for minors, you are doing everyone a disservice. Most people support the right of adults to be whatever they want to be, but not to be playing sports against women, or using women's restrooms. That's not bigotry, it's common sense.
Maybe Trump winning again says we need to live in the 5-6 countries that are here instead of fighting over a dream that looks dead to me. Cascadia anyone out here on the west coast?
@@mr.raslyon6626 Not just allowed but welcome Greater Idaho and Jefferson. Blue city states like Seattle, New York, Boston, San Francisco are all tax exporters. We can stop funding wars we don't vote for and create a movement toward respecting our differences.
I'm surprised that discussion of a national divorce hasn't become a thing. I'm not saying I favor it, but it seems the polarization is severe enough that it should at least be considered.
Very disingenuous remark by Klein about high speed rail around the 4:30 mark. There are plenty of trains you can board from that legislation. The issue is, it did not go to high speed rail, rather to improving conventional speed rail. There wasn't enough money in that entire bill for a single HSR project. So it was distributed in ways that it could do some good.
No one who claims schools and businesses should have remained open during Covid when more 1 million Americans died should not be taken seriously as Teles suggests multiple times. And of course he does. He's a Federalist Society guy.
yes it does take too long now to get stuff done .. but not all of that lag is the federal gov't fault .. in WW2 we built 151 aircraft carriers and 2710 liberty ships in just 4 years .. and that doesn't count the thousands of planes tanks trucks jeeps and other weapons ... where there is the will they find a way ..
They still do, but we're deeply invested in that whole "military industrial complex" that someone mentioned long ago... Long story short, the country makes a lot of money from war (or should we say "conflict.")
I just heard two liberals and one conservative list of talking points in what I can only assume is tweed shrug for over an hour... What an informative podcast. Thank you, New York times.
As it was meant to, the title of this vid reminds me of the "in this house we believe" signs. A thought just struck as to one of the problems with this idea... Everyone in the house believes the same things? Most houses I know have people with varying beliefs. To live in one of those sign houses is it a requirement to believe the correct things? Has the progressive left abandoned individuality completely? It certainly appears so.
It’s also just incredibly elitist & judgmental to post those signs. Who needs to assert that they believe in science? The implication is that everyone who disagrees with them is anti-science. But in reality, every branch of science has lots of different theories & views 😂
To be fair, they are basically empty platitudes that almost no one would oppose. The language is clearly coded to be interpreted in a certain way for liberals, but anyone reading the individual claims would probably agree with them, even if they would completely disagree with the actual residents.
I feel like youre reaching here. 'Abandoning individuality??' Grandiose language serves the voices in your head, but makes finding common ground difficult. 'Have NYT readers abandoned civility?' Cmon.
This is dreck. It's the economy stupid. Give working people more money and frame that as the primary focus of your messaging. Liberal cultural analysis doomspiral has to stop.
I guess I'm an older breed of Democrat, even though I'm only 36. Not all institutions are the same. NOAA, USGS, NASA, NIH are all net very positive. DOD, DHS, FBI, CIA, NSA on the other hand... Maybe that's just the undocumented immigrant in me talking.
You people need to sit down and talk to some mega people you would find out you got a lot in common you're just so arrogant and inside your bubble you will not listen to reason they believe the same thing you believe
I couldn’t agree more with this. Even at the Times, what constitutes the necessary self reflection in the face of loss still relies on its core tenets as axes. If you cannot imagine the mind of another, you cannot understand yourself in the broader context of humanity.
I live in rural OH. Trump country, surrounded by Republicans of all types. They're not having nuanced conversations about politics. When they talk about problems, they blame the poor (or immigrants), bitch about "woke", and talk about Trans folks in bathrooms and sports. You know, brainwashed by RW propaganda. We all felt and are still feeling the pain from prices and the overall cost of living rising post pandemic, but they don't realize it was corporations raising prices and posting record profits. They just blame Biden (despite the IRA creating jobs and helping America more than its peers around the world). You are right, I have A LOT in common with my MAGA friends and family. I just don't swallow RW nonsense as the reasons for my problems.
I think she is a bit off. Look at the corporate bureaucracies? Horrible! No, it is not 90%. No, it is more than three steps. It depends on grade and professional demands. There are so many rigorous requirements for fed jobs. HR does not want to be written up or something corporate never gets, a "Congressional Inquiry." Government is not perfect, but a lot gets done at a lot of government agencies. What is she, Heritage! As Twain, She a Damn Lie! Which Think Tank pays her! Again, look at corporate or non-profits. Hahaaa, really? We are just spoiled Americans. We are just never happy! She luv' that' Vivek mindset, haha. Fools! So many gov offices are understaffed with Congressional untealistic visions. She did not talk about the congressional figures who are responsibles for many bureaucratic challenges.
@@adambuchbinder2791 Oh, please; it is not nihilism. Rather, existentialism encourages engagement---simply without the jejune presumption of "solving" things that cannot be solved. Talk about lazy! You should try growing up.
@@joiedevie3901 The original quote could be interpreted as saying that there are no solutions, so trying to solve things is pointless. Is this not what you're saying?
@@joiedevie3901 While there is no complete way to solve many problems it all boils down to what trade-offs you are willing to make. For every choice there will be consequences both intended and unintended. The question becomes can we live with the unintended consequences. This is where most progressives fail in that they rarely account for the fact the unintended consequences inherent in many of their solutions are worse than the solution. Or in my darker moments I think some actually want the unintended consequences in order to create a more chaotic situation.
@@adambuchbinder2791I don’t see how it could be interpreted any other way. Like is “reform”, “reconstruction”, etc a solution? What is the alternative to a solution? Or is everyone a problem?
@@direwolf6234I’m a Dem, but in this particular election I’ll give you the top 4 reasons Dems lost: (1) inflation; (2) illegal immigration/ open border; (3) unpopular social policies; & (4) undemocratic actions, eg, denying voters a primary & just replacing a candidate; lawfare to bankrupt & jail opponents for charges nobody else has ever faced; suing to keep RFK & Stein off ballots; suing to let illegal migrants vote (to prevent VA from purging them from voter rolls); using media as a tool for propaganda, etc.
@@direwolf6234I do it: things were perceived as better under Trump than Biden; Harris was a uniquely uninspiring candidate; moderate backlash against a democrat party that has pulled too far to the left - especially around wokism. Add on that Trump is uniquely charismatic and appealing to those who feel government doesn’t work for them.
This isn't a helpful comment. You're implying that you know why the Democrats lost, but you're not sticking your neck out by staking a position. It's cowardly. Do better. What are the reasons the Democrats lost that they're not talking about? Why do you think you know them? What convinced you?
We need more "news paper podcasts" like this. I wonder if Helsingin Sanomat and Huvustadsbladet has something similar. I feel like the big news media companies in Europe already have this sort of thing set up.
DW (Germany’s PBS) makes mini-documentaries on topical issues that I listen to as podcasts at work sometimes. But I’m not sure if Europe has as many daily podcasts of this type
Urban Americans are fed up with Real Estate Developers and gentrification. THAT"S what's driving homelessness and population loss. There is not a single affordable neighborhood left on the N side of Chicago. Tons of housing units have been built. They sell for hundreds of thousands to a million $. Rents on teeny, tiny "micro-apartments" are $1500-$2500. Two and three family homes that used to house families with children have been razed to build luxury apartment buildings with fewer bedrooms or have been turned into single family houses by wealthy buyers. THAT is why we elected a city council that is more responsive to residents than to reaal estate developers. We are also fed up with services that have been "contracted out" to private companies in such a way that no one is ultimately responsible for processes or outcomes. I'm a 64 y/o white woman. IDGAF about fare jumpers. Mass transit should get more government support so that people can get around and we can decrease congestion and pollution. "Socialism" is such an abused word. Europe, Korea, Taiwan provide citizens with plenty of public services and there is a high level of trust that tax $$--which they actually levy and collect from their billionaires and businesses--are being used for the public good.
the funny part about this podcast is that, after saying "From New York Times Opinion, this is the Ezra Klein show" and playing the intro music, Ezra actually says more stuff. his guests usually say some stuff too. you should try listening to that stuff before asking what they're saying in the comments of the youtube video
Ezra Klein is so smart that’s he’s dumb. If I had time I’d put one of his needlessly drawn out quotes here and show how it’s internally incoherent (though he pains to make every idea perfect) and easily countered. Somehow he still falls back to right vs left, so he needs to ends every thought with padding to reaffirm that he is on the left. It’s group-think. We all have right and left thoughts and actions. Anyone who thinks they are on one side can’t see straight and isn’t living in reality. Anyone who says they agree with THE right and THE left on different issues can’t see that those are both mirages. And I’ll never get on the Ezra Klein show because I don’t spend my life pushing paper and I don’t want to be famous, so I’m disqualified.
So sick of your both sides-ism Ezra specifically, and the nyt in general. Installing completely unqualified yes men while musk quietly defunds every department in government in order to divert the funds to themselves is not a solution for government bureaucracy
Ezra, face it, even when governance delivers socio-economically legitimate outcomes, it ends up corrupted. Stop wasting your life bitching about inherent human failings, read Amaranthine: How to Create a Regenerative Civilization Using Artificial Intelligence, and help the author create his socially-legitimate “Beautiful” society. please up-vote this so Ezra gets the message
Been a government employee for 15 years, before that spent 21 years of military service working with civil service employees. EVERYONE knows that the whole hiring and accountability process in civil service is a joke. Almost impossible to fire under performers. Its why nobody wants these people around.
yes .. had 27 years as a civil engineer civilian employee with 4 agencies ... we learned to live with the 80/20 rule .. 80% of the problems are caused by 20% of the people .. and 80% of the work is done by 20% of the people .. and your 'job' as a manager was to motivate the middle 60% to shift to the right of the bell curve ..
Exactly why I am not totally upset with RFK Jr's appt. Some of these Dept need a house cleaning. Ezra once again just attacks or lumps RFK jr into a crazy column, but he has never said he is anti-vax...he wants them tested as other drugs are tested...l don't see what is wrong with this. Also he wants to bring down the connection between the agency and Big Pharma which has the opportunities for Corruption...I don't see anything wrong with this either. I did not vote Repub...but I don't like what the left does in reporting on some of these people...misrepresenting their positions..same as what Fox does to them..Stop It...report the Truth and what they actually say and want.
I have a friend who works in DOD who has said similar things... but he's also pointed out everyone knows Republicans are not interested in accountability. They are not looking to fire under-performers, they are looking to fire liberals/progressives or people who aren't MAGA.
This is the primary reason government doesn’t work.
Nah, I’ll trust a NYT schmo telling me about the “dangers” of improving government efficiency.
I live and work in DC. There're plenty of very bright, extremely hardworking federal employees and contractors. There's also a few that stroll in at 10 a.m., take 2-hour lunch breaks, and then leave for the day at 2 p.m. If you ask these types to do anything work-related, they'll report you to HR for harassment.
God help you if they belong to a protected class.
Sounds like BS to me.
@@justgivemethetruth Why would people make this up? What incentive do they have? I work for contractors and it's egregious on that level. I can't even imagine the deeper and to Washington.
@@enokoner
No one can get into the minds and motivations of another, and especially someone they do not know. Don't ask me to explain their motives, but pointing the finger at people and vilifying workers sounds like unproven NS to me.
I find that hard to believe.
IF it is true that they wanted Rogan to fly to her, and limit it to an hour, it just further reinforces how out of touch the staff was with the population more broadly - and Rogan.
I wonder why they couldn't just do a zoom interview?
So rogan's the number one podcast in the country. Every single guy that I know listens to him. I don't understand how Rogan is out of touch since he's an opinion maker, sadly.
She is too indecisive and too unlikable to sit down for a three-hour interview with anyone. Her staff knew it and that’s why the interview never happened.
She and her campaign were just incredibly arrogant. No interviews for more than a month post convention. Literal disdain for the electorate.
Rogan isn't why she lost, and Rogan is a Far Right Wing conduit, those who listen to him would never vote for a Democrat.
I’m 2 minutes in and I cannot listen anymore.
Are they even saying anything? So much liberal cope
I agree with your take on Institutions. Commitment to institutions rather than the outcomes
Finally some real introspection of the problem of the current administrative state
Absolutely true! Federal employees KNOW they won’t be fired, enabling bad, selfish & dangerous behavior. Good folks can be at risk!
Can we fire Elon Musk? Peter Thiel, or the Federalist Society or Heritage 2025 Foundation members? They appear to have more influence over the direction of the Government going forward.
Nonsense, any person who fails to show up for work, comes to work inebriated and or commits a serious crime will be fired.
Dems shut the door on Bernie twice. And now here we are.
Yes, we need to pay for mediocre ppl to go to college for 11 yrs and get a degree in women’s studies, lol.
If only we had listened to Bernie!!!
Bernie Sanders was at the forefront of an idea that there was a vast untapped resource of disaffected voters who truly yearned for socialism.
It's just not true. It might have been possible to credibly believe that as late as 2008, maybe 2012. But reality has caught up. He ran behind Harris in his own Senate race this year.
I'm sorry to report that the American people do not, in fact, yearn for socialism. I understand you really wished that it was the case.
@@OhioVworld You know, who are you to tell someone what kind of education they want. If you pay for people to go to college you pay for people to go to college. You don't get to dictate what they study. You pay for a 4 year degree and if they can't manage to do it in 4 years, then that's their problem.
Enough with Bernie, let him go
@@scpatl4now I’m no one to tell ppl which type of college education to seek out UNTIL you ask me to pay for it.
They need to go out to Iowa or Michigan or Ohio and talk to a roofer or a truck driver or a waitress. They'll tell you exactly why you all lost.
Yes. Why didn't the journalists spend more time in a rural small-town diner? Why has no one thought of this before?
@maemorri I said the names of States. I never said city vs rural. That's your own snobbery showing.
But they never will. Those commoners are below Leftist Royalty.
Bill Clinton...as a woman I groaned when the Harris campaign trotted him out. WTF....
Clinton wasn't running for POTUS, Trump was. Trump has at least 26 women accuse him of sexual assault over his lifetime.
When i worked in the government, it was a bunch of affirmative action hires who slept at their desk all day and did nothing. This was at the DEA. I’m really excited about the possibility of dramatically reducing the government workforce. We need to be able to get rid of low performers
I agree completely but I wouldn't blame affirmative action. Imo the laziness, indifference, and lack of productivity apply to all demographics.
IMO they had to find a place for all of those humanities graduates who were otherwise unemployable.
@ you’re right that it applies to all demographics in the government. The affirmative action thing was kind of a joke, but at the same time, kind of not. Seems weird that half of the people hired at the DEA just happened to be black women 😂
The courts are getting rid of Affirmative Action. But they seem to have a difficult time getting rid of nepotism and other biases in hiring. Without delving into the history of the US, folks know the practices above still exist and aren't as advantageous to minorities. Some examples of this are coaching jobs in the NFL (see the upcoming class action legal proceedings) and in college football.
The government has been failing for most of us a long time. There are too many loopholes written into laws that are being abused for the benefit of a few. And there is no accountability at the top because one side is afraid the other side will do the same to them. This election won't change it and neither will the next. The system needs a major reboot and A.I. needs to play a major role in that reboot.
@@dmr6390 Affirmative action hires is that said with a hard-R ?
In my house we're sane, pissed off, and not 🚫 accepting Stupid as the New Smart. Hope I'm still in it this time next year. Unfortunately I can't take it with me to some boring country run by grownups 😬
Well, the PEOPLE are very excited about RFK’s appointment - according to yesterday’s Pew Poll ( with approximately 70% approving-especially suburban women )….
I'd need a link to that. The polls I see are 60% or less. I would also question whether the poll indicates support for his confirmation or agreement with his positions. And among his positions, those on processed food (broadly accepted) or vaccine and fluoridation skepticism (whackadoo).
My left-leaning friends want to fix institutions by giving them more resources. I never hear these same friends talk about efficiency or accountability when it comes to government institutions. Plan > Leadership > Accountability > People > Resources
I agree, we should have a civil service that is accountable to getting the work done, not a loyalty test to a tyrant in the White House
One of the great successes of Tony Blair’s New Labour government of 1997-2010 was that he conditioned extra resources on profound structural reforms of the institutions receiving those funds. The result was, e.g. with the NHS, cutting the waiting lists of those seeking non-urgent surgeries to the lowest since records began. Much to be learned from that, whatever you make of Iraq.
Efficiency does not entail cutting Social Security benefits
@@yvonnefarrell1029 Removing social security benefits for high income earners isn't it efficient in your mind? Stop being dogmatic. ANY large institution has efficiencies and cuts that can be made.
Why would they talk about efficiency if something is not even functional or working? It’s not solution to the problem they are talking about
Wow, NYTs is still in business.
Like it or not, they'll be around long after you and I are dead and gone.
@@terryarmstrong8598 Just like msnbc, & cnn
Conservatives have been having this conversation for decades now, and now suddenly this is new and shocking to liberals.
Agreed. We just completed a populist hostile takeover of the GOP. The left needs to do the same thing.
The innate hypocrisy from the Far Right is never shocking.
I love hearing you guys slice and dice in the same way the dem party splits hairs til there’s nothing useful remaining. People are broke or poor, they live hand to mouth. It’s the economy stupid.
Yes thing were better once. Before Reagan, 58.5% of America was Middle Class. In 1971 when Nixon took us off the gold standard America had its richest and largest (61%) Middle Class. Most all decline in America is because of REPUBLICANS. Nixon's removing the dollar from the Gold Standard cause all the inflation of the 70's. Ford allowed gold to be owned again as an investment, the rich could now bet against our own economy. Reagan sold trickle down promising deficit would be lower, salaries would be higher and he started for profit hospitals. Instead deficits soared, labor got suppressed and now healthcare take 30% of a families income! Where Clinton left surpluses on the based on Social Security surpluses that should have lasted till 2009. A all Republican Government did another unfunded tax cut for the rich that made those surpluses deficit. Add all the mismanagement that Republican government did, you got the Financial crisis! Obama gave Trump an economy growing, producing jobs and the lowest deficit in the 9 years. Trump made those deficits worse with another unfunded tax cut and then mismanaged Covid to the point of creating chaos. Biden come in, gets bills passed, has our economy soar over the rest of the worlds, and this stupid country thinks Trump was better! We know have the Government we deserve. As Obama said ""If you think education is expensive, wait until you see how much ignorance costs the 21st century". Now we will know!
I know lmfao. "hmmm maybe it's the institutional shift towards accepting trans people, hmmmm 🤔" 80% OF AMERICANS ARE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND YOU CAUSED AN INSANE AMOUNT OF INFLATION. They're being the snobby out-of-touch liberals they are complaining about
Critique Without Constructive Solutions:
• Criticism of others’ discussions while offering no actionable ideas or alternatives.
• Creates an impression of insight while avoiding responsibility for problem-solving.
@@charlesmartino1456 Reagan started all our problems with de-regulation. Since Reagan, income inequality has gotten worse and worse! Astronomical corporate profits! Monopolies that cause price gauging! Democracy on the decline! get real people, Reagan was the biggest single impactor of what everyone is bitching about and Republicans continue to carry that torch, that says, help the wealthy! That'll end up helping everyone! That's the opposite of what happens! They make more and more by investing in the stock market owned 93% by the top 10%, bottom 50% owns only 1%, and continue to raise CEO pay and be responsive only to shareholders, this whole thing benefits the rich and then they have so much sway over government and all they care about is not paying taxes and decreasing government. Cutting government means giving more money to the rich. Services help equalize things more. More services, more safety nets, fewer hours and better pay for workers, unions, and prioritizing long-term (and short term) threats that are also very costly by battling climate and the hegemony of big oil....that's what we need, and it's just not rocket science at all. As the Bible says, selfishness is bad. Universal love is good. Not that I think the Bible is a legitimate source of truth per se.
@@charlesmartino1456You really believe the Dems are blameless? Inequality soared under Obama.
The Pentagon failed its 7th audit and can't account for $824 billion.
Don't allow revisionism of the covid pandemic. One of the main factors in lockdowns was the amount of infections, the countries that were hit the hardest locked down after the wave to save their healthcare systems, it was a response to circumstances. After the wave, meaning the likes of the UK had covid in December and locked down in March. Sweden, that didn't lockdown, had several times more deaths from covid than their neighbours who locked down, although they still had proportionally far less than the UK, Spain, France, Italy, or the US. Sweden also had almost all the negative effects associated with lockdowns that their neighbours had because it was behaviour driving it, not lockdowns. Any dense population centre is going to lockdown in a pandemic.
I think there was a case for lockdowns in early 2020, but by late 2020 it was clear most deaths were among people past the average life expectancy, and a lot of deaths were caused by interventions (e.g. intubation) rather than the infection itself, which is understandable as doctors were figuring out how to treat a novel virus they didnt have experience with. Even so, given the available evidence, it didn't make sense to keep schools closed, and that was documented in the Great Barrington Declaration. By fall 2021, when the vaccines were available to all, it definitely didn't make sense to keep schools closed. There was a cost-benefit analysis that needed to be had publicly, but instead you had Anthony Fauci saying "if you disagree with me you disagree with Science", which really soured a lot of people, especially when he had initially said at the start that masks would be ineffective and then later admitted he said that to prevent a run on PPE supplies. For me, once I understood authorities were willing to lie for the "greater good", I lost faith they were ever telling the whole truth.
@@coffeebuzz69 I agree, about there being better ways to manage the pandemic from late 2020 than blanket lockdowns. Also there's evidence that sooner less strict lockdowns were just as effective. The lockdowns were only necessary because intervention was left too late.
About the deaths being caused by medical intervention of the virus, that might be true, but covid still has a high mortality among those past the average life expectancy, and more importantly for every death there were more who survived with life altering injury. The pandemic wasn't just one of millions of deaths, but several times more that spent months gravely ill, with damage to the heart, brain, and lungs.
The masks thing probably did more damage than anything. Masks aren't important (because the medical profession needs them) until masks are very important. I haven't really seen any apology about that either.
@@coffeebuzz69 You got your statistics wrong. The average life expectancy of an 80-year old is another 8 years. It's not "average life expectancy minus current age".
Yeah, I agree. But people lacked the understanding and they have deep distrust in institutions (vaccines are seen as an institutional intervention). So, basically, the voters blamed the messengers. Strangely enough, the actual people to blame would be the Republicans as they were around in the beginning. Likewise, it was the Trump administration that oversaw the vaccine development.
I think one would have to research how many people voted against Trump in 2020 because of their handling of the pandemic and how many of those people voted for Trump in 2024 because of the Democrat's handling of the pandemic.
@@lodepublishing for an individual, I agree with your stat. But I was referring to the population average, which isnt wrong. When dealing with public policy, the cost-benefit impact to the whole public needs to be considered. I'd argue the response taken aimed to minimize death at the cost of all else. But now we need to deal with a generation of children with disrupted education, not to mention a lack of trust in our institutions.
Rather than constantly bringing in "experts" with a stack of letters behind their names for your show, why don't you actually spend some time talking the folks you're trying to understand?
You are so right. So many government leaders have no clue how their regulations impact the real world.
Speaking of risk reduction, can you do a podcast on political backlashes, and ways to reduce the swings?
There seems to be two overlapping forces that paralyze individuals in politics and the govt. One is institutions slowing everything down, but at the same time, if you every actually do anything, the social backlash is overwhelming. For example, yes the govt can't build anything, but local govt actions during COVID showed the govt can actually do things. Similarly, tim Walz got called a communist and extremist for free food in school. Individual ideas that have 70-90% support, until they're done and then everyone hates it.
It seems like you can do no right; either you keep your head down and don't get anything meaningful done, or you get meaningful things done but people don't like it and get you fired or unelected. Seem to have 10 years of nothing, them 2 years of action, then everyone gets furious bc you went too far, them it swings back and we undo whatever was done.
How do we get out of this cycle?
The way hiring is done is beyond stupid, you can interview people without asking political questions
WHY are you “surprised “ with ppl’s hatred of BLUE-RUN CITIES?? ….You prioritize “rhetoric” and “intentions” over efficiency and common sense….
There’s a reason that a perennial “purple” State (FL) became solid Red under the efficient & results-oriented leadership of DeSantis; reasons why ppl are fleeing Blue States & cities for Red Texas & Atlanta…..”Judge a person not by what they SAY, but by what they DO” my Dad always said ( apparently, a lot of folks feel the same way )….
Google US states ranked by per capita income, average household wealth, homicide rate, high school graduation rate, literacy rate, average education level, and life expectancy. Let me know when you notice a certain theme start to emerge.
@ ….I spoke of CITIES, not States; even in deep Red States, their largest cities are Blue ……The fact that crime & general disorder are universally lower, per capita, in a “poorer, less educated” Mobile, AL vs. a much more affluent & educated Chicago, only proves my point ….
Rather than sneering at Red States for their relative poverty ( and the most commonly-mentioned gripe : their relative dependence on Blue States for wealth transfers ), you might wish to keep in mind another “statistic” : Red States overwhelmingly do the fighting & the dying for this country ( which allows Blue State youth to generally take a pass )….
@@Shineon83 "BLUE-RUN CITIES" is redundant. There are no conservative major cities in the country, because the Republican platform only makes sense if you live in the middle of nowhere, where you can go months without ever having to talk to anyone who doesn't look, speak, and think like you do. Every city, whether safe and affluent, or poor and dangerous, is majority Dem, so cherrypicking the bad examples is absurd. States, on the other hand, are evenly split, and there is near-perfect correlation between the most conservative, and the poorest, the most dangerous, the least healthy, the least educated, etc. It is an objective fact that where Republicans try to govern anything more diverse than a suburban HOA, it leads to poverty, illiteracy, grotesque inequality, and lives of misery and penury for working people. Vote Republican if you want the country to be more like Mississippi, vote for the most progressive candidates on the ballot if you want it to be more like Massachusetts.
I'm sure you'd claim that you want the whole country to be prosperous and safe, but in reality you happily suffer as long as you think the people you hate will be even worse off. It's why you see so many Trump signs on the crabgrass lawns of dilapidated ranch houses, and on 20+ year old vehicles.
@@williamjameslehy1341 FL & TX are extremely diverse (upwards of 40% Latino, and large AA populations)….And their populations are becoming MORE Republican, due to results-oriented leadership….You spew unthinking Dem talking points-without stating the bloody obvious: That almost all “Blue-run” cities have NEVER, ever elected a Republican (so they have nothing to compare their current, piss-poor standard of living to)….
You also surely are aware that with 90%+ of inner-city AAs automatically, year-after-year, voting for the same Party-without ever even considering (or hearing) the Republican-it’s hardly surprising that Dems keep being reelected to continue their corruption & their inept “leadership”….AAs are the only group in the U.S. who can’t wait to give their votes away to a Party that treats them with greater indifference every year ( giving all of the “goodies,” housing & healthcare to undocumented Latinos-who they far prefer as their new voters-while starving their most loyal voters)….( And they’re laughing up their sleeves at the “suckers” who vote for them anyway :)
@@Shineon83 "Results-oriented" lmfao. Google US states ranked by per capita income, average household net worth, average education level achieved, life expectancy, infant and maternal mortality, homicide rate, incarceration rate, or basically any other quality-of-life metric. Let me know when you notice a certain theme start to emerge.
The introduction is a very good summary of why I abandoned the Democratic Party; however, having said that, this past cycle I voted straight Democratic ticket because I absolutely loath Trump and the clown car that the Republican Party has become.
But I have to tell you that I will take deep pleasure in voting Conservative in Canada‘s election next year to see the backside of Trudeau. This is not as paradoxical as it would seem. Trudeau and his progressive policies have been a disaster for Canada. I cannot emphasize that strongly enough.
you're voting in american and Canadian elections? how do I report you for voter fraud
@@Rudenbehr they are probably a dual citizen. You can vote absentee in Canadian federal elections as a non-resident citizen.
The issue is that the CPC isn't going to do any good for Canada at all, especially under Pierre. All he's run on is wedge identity issues and he's as crooked and paid for as any other politician.
And Trudeau's Liberals hardly legislated real progressive policies, the LPC have always been left of center and that's it. Sure, more left of center than the Democrats on a lot of things, but that's not saying much.
Many of the actual progressive ideas that got Trudeau elected are popular across the spectrum, like cannabis legalization, but many were abandoned once he was elected, like electoral reform.
People rightfully want a change but Pierre and the CPC are just not it. They're too Trumpian and identity driven. We need another Jack Layton or something. We need a new NDP leader that can galvanize the working class to want actual leadership. I know they won't, but I wish the parties up north would learn something from the way the Democrats have acted and are responding to this election.
Trudeau should announce he's not running for reelection on like January 1st and they should try and find a suitable replacement to socialize to the public if they want a CHANCE at a minority government come October. The NDP honestly should too, but I think they need a genuine message and policy shift to get people excited about them again. Unfortunately, Singh's brand isn't strong enough to win enough votes, I think. It's a shame, I'm sure at least some of it is due to implicit bias and racism, but he's also been unable to shake the image of a young idealist, imo. But somehow also seeming just as out of touch as Trudeau I guess at least in part due to the NDP's support of the Liberals in parliament.
Canada needs policy shifts, but a lot of the day-to-day harm people are feeling is also being caused by the vast number of Conservative premieres currently in power who have worked to undermine federal efforts to improve or fund things like healthcare and infrastructure spending. If the CPC gets in federally, they'll run the same playbook of dismantling social safety nets and blaming immigrants, the Liberals, and probably trans people (that seems to not have worked as well up north as in the US, at least in some cases, like NB's recent provincial election).
If actual progressive policy was enacted regarding healthcare, housing, labour, elections, etc., I think Canadians would be way better off and it would force the Cons to move left on some issues like they had to in the past. But Trudeau's LPC are just Conservative Lite with slightly better social stances, at least on paper. The CPC has swung cynically to the right to ride the wave of angry populism coming from the south, but we need positive populism or something new entirely to see actual people surviving and thriving in the true North, strong and Free.
Identity politics are just politics. Those who hate "woke" stuff have made that part of their own identity and they feel like their identities are under threat or being cast aside and derided. But cynical conservative politicians are using that to steer those people into issues and causes that are against their own interests. Most people in Canada (and the US) would benefit from progressive policies and practices. Even with immigration - it's not a progressive or left stance to allow the abuse of TFWs by corporations to keep wages down while they continue to raise prices and brag about it. Having a focus on the well-being of the people you're supposed to be governing is a benefit to everyone, except those that seek to and benefit from the exploitation of the working class.
We all want the same things and we're constantly pointed at the wrong causes and obstacles, encouraged to fight instead of unite. But the answer isn't to just point the other direction when one side has used up our good graces. That's been Canadian politics for decades at least and it's worked well enough to maintain a status quo, but we need more than that now and there's too many in power trying to take advantage of the predictable back and forth, allowing malicious and detrimental people into positions of leadership to more directly serve their monied interests. We're stuck with shitty status quo vs not status quo no matter how just as shit or shittier it is. We deserve better, we need better. North and South of 49th parallel.
I'll be happy to see Trudeau leave too and agree he's been a disaster, but I highly doubt the Conservatives will be able to get Canada back to a good place. Coming from someone that lives in Alberta, Conservative governments are just as obsessed with meaningless identity politics as Liberals are, just from a different direction. I had to watch Alberta pass education reforms recently that were soley focused on "pro-parent" ie anti-trans/anti-sex ed policies instead of reducing class sizes, hiring more teachers and care aids... its such a joke. When I was a kid, every disabled/learning issue kid had a single aid assigned to them, now its 4-6 of these kids to one aid and class sizes over 35 kids large with half of them having serious behavioural issues. The Conservatives haven't presented a single original idea of how to fix anything, all they do is insult other people and promise to end "wokeness". I'll be happy when they get in too because them coming in and failing us too is the only thing that will make you and the rest of our countrymen wake up to fact that we need to COMPLETELY restructure our country, economy and our society in general. But then again you're half a yank, so I don't know how much you even care
@@natedogg890 hey, I'm half a yank and I care very much haha. But I completely agree (and echo a lot of this sentiment in my own comment). Just like in the states, we need a dramatic change to the system and government that prioritizes actually providing services and support for its citizens.
Listening to the elite try to self-reflect should be required learning in clown school.
Word salad city.
Code for America really gets in there and helps simplify procedures for those using tech and those applying on paper too. Kudos to them.
55:10 As a right leaning Libertarian type living in CO, I can confirm that Polis pandemic approach was the best of any blue state governor by a large margin, probably one of the best and most data driven pandemic responses in the US. He is also the only Democrat I have ever heard advocate for elimination of state income tax in CO, basically the anti Gavin Newsome. I don't agree with him on many policies, but he has been a solid governor in what has become a very blue state.
Eh, the anti-2A policies outweigh any possible good he's done, imo. But thank God CO didn't go as far as California or New York with covid lock downs.
“This (self id) breaks institutions, and specifically, it breaks them at their point of purpose. If an organisation was set up to educate, it starts to indoctrinate - to teach lies, and punish anyone who points out that they are lies. If it was set up to do safeguarding, it starts to work to increase the risks of harm and abuse for vulnerable people. If it was set up to promote free speech, it becomes a censor. If it was set up to support and strengthen women, it instead starts to sideline and put down women and promote men in their place.” Dr Helen Joyce, Genspect, “What Will It Take To Return To Reality?”
You couldn't have diagnosed Heritage Foundation & their inane, self-serving anti-Democratic project 2025 any better. Couple that with the Far Right becoming mainstream media through propaganda outlets that spout nonsense 24/7/365. IE: Musk bought Twitter to control speech, move the dialogue Far Right.
Where were these discussions in the last 12 years? Not in mainstream media that's for sure. It took Trump for these self reflections to be broadcast? Thank him him for saving the democratic party from sleep walking into the abyss.
This is such a very important topic! Think about public schools vs. vouchers. How often do public schools fail to provide the education students need? And maybe you don’t like vouchers, but shouldn’t the individual student matter as much as the institution of public schools? I love the institution of public schools, but I also want students to have choices if their public school is not providing them the education they need.
Musk wasn’t invited to EV summit because tesla wasn’t union
Which is just insane. Tesla wouldn’t exist if it had to unionize.
Yes. Many people have forgotten that part.
@@Rustyshackelford177 Tesla wouldn't have survived unionization in, say, 2012. The irony there is that Tesla wouldn't have survived in 2012 if it wasn't for generous federal government subsidies issued a few years earlier, designed to sustain green energy startups. But by 2020, Tesla was doing just fine, as was Musk, and they could have had collective bargaining. Musk simply wants to own everything and take credit for everything.
@@benjaminnead8557 no company wants to unionize because unions are not good for business - especially the auto industry. Unions add cost, delay innovation, and prevent businesses from making necessary decisions. They may be good for some workers (mostly poor performers) - right up to the point management has to close the plant.
@@Rustyshackelford177 it's a little ridiculous to be so anti-union after the last 2 decades. Union wages have been flat relative to profits and executive pay. There's a huge wealth gap in the US and lagging and worker wages is a huge part of it.
Who was president when COVID hit?
I think it was Taft.
Thats not the issue.
Who was lying about it.
@@uromvictor Trump and the current GOP/ MAGA have lied the most about the pandemic, the far right continues to dodge responsibility through lies, and misinformation.
Rewriting history is a tried & true technique to manufacture consent.
They had 4 years to fix the institution and they did nothing. Nothing!!!!!!
Another great read on closely related issues, is Dr. Thomas Franks "listen liberal!"
Lots to unpack here. Three points that go unnoticed: (1) for decades the GOP has done nothing to create better government - embracing instead a “do nothing” approach or institutional self-sabotage to further an agenda of outsourcing traditional public services to private donors, which enables (2) ongoing graft and crony capitalism - our national religion. (3) Look around. The federal workforce accomplishes so much more than is given credit - but we rarely notice, because the messaging focuses on negative stories, and we’re too busy blaming the poster child of low-output employees, who by the way exist in private sectors, too.
No one can seem to explain what Trump’s tear-it-down-and-replace-with-loyalists approach will accomplish, other than some sort of temporary feel-good about laying off a bunch of employees and adding them to the unemployment rolls.
What does the federal workforce accomplish?
@@keithfoster5329 Do I really need to spell it out, comrade? Whatever 🙄
What a joke this is. The failings of the agencies have been laid out over and over and over by the very people who have been nominated by Trump to lead them (among others). But because most progressives live inside their bubble, you have no idea what these critiques are.
Exactly!
Successful Right Wing Oligarchs prefer to seal off opportunities for others to safeguard their wealth and power under the guise of "fixing government.' It's just another bait & switch con.
Do you understand that the 15 billion wasted on high speed trains is being paid for by folks trying to buy groceries which are up 30% in two years?
You are not paying for HSR. You are not paying for anything with your taxes. Every time Congress passes a bill funding anything it's new money into the system. That we depend on taxation for federal spending is a tale told by people who want to keep poor people poor.
@@scpatl4now tell me more about your wonderful theory that injecting new money into the economy cannot cause inflation
@@scpatl4nowi guess the idea is that government taxes by printing money which deflates the currency thus deflating value of any savings (basically a hidden tax on savings) and deflating effective amount of national debt (what's another trillion if today's trillion is tomorrow's billion?)
@@scpatl4now Step away from the bong and breathe some clean fresh air.
@@davidpolansky5848 Well, if you think people in the US all have too much money and that there wont be enough stuff for them to buy, then I guess we should worry about inflation, but right now any inflation we just had was either supply shock or price gouging and had nothing to do with too much money in everyone's hands
Favorite song dc
Agencies and their employees are not answerable to ordinary citizens.
great episode. I feel like it had great **grounded** reflection by the guests.
Trust…
Trust the federal civil service?
Is this a joke?
You prefer a bunch of incompetent, self-serving goons hired based on their loyalty to Donald Trump?
Great interview she's got the problem down and the solutions she needs to be a decision maker
One of those no longer useful processes, would probably be accepting the Parliamentarians claim that an Increase in the minimum wage would resmduce the federal tax base.
Poverty is at the root of most of our problems. These institutions leave so many behind, as the masses suffer.
well i wouldn't advocate for leaving more people behind but for making these institutions more effective and more comprehensive
The problem with hiring is they government the most qualified person but how to meet DEi requirements and federal regulations.
The problem with hiring is they government the most qualified person but how to meet DEi requirements and federal regulations.
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Cause the Rs do not allow the anti-poverty pgms to be fully funded. Instead it's NASA and Dept of Defense stealing from the poor in this country.
Wealth inequality is where the top one percent takes an ever-larger slice of the economic pie.
Selection based on insider internships, military experience, government experience, procurement and government forms, also block over 90 percent of applicants so it is insider trading
I disagree with the premise of this episode title. For the people who own it, government works perfectly, and it always will.
Your intro reminds me why I am an independent and not a democrat. RFK is my least upsetting pick, for the reasons you cite. I'm very concerned about health, disease, environmental, food supply etc. things he was good on before the brain worms. Vaccine stuff is nuts and he's not at all qualified, but breaking some of our broke food and health systems would be good actually. The left went cultishly insane during COVID. Just embarrassing really.
Betting on a guy to do some good that’s proven to be completely irrational and in my opinion narcissistic believing he’s the one to fix things he doesn’t understand is a problem. Pseudoscience pushers should not be in charge of policy even if he’s right 2 out of 10 times on something
@navyrotc2012 seriously like are people not paying attention Trump is rewarding Loyalty and breaking the System full stop!
Trump was in charge during Covid …
@@Yayamagee I have a hard time understanding the level of pollyannaish optimism involved in believing that putting a bunch of crazy morons in charge of our institutions might fix them.
There are so many more ways for something to be broken than there are for it to work right. Have we learned nothing?
The HR approach for hiring described here is exactly the same for virtually 22:27 every major employer. The match is done through automated matches (word matches for job experience and prior experience). To single out the federal hiring process is a disservice. Corporations don't do a better job of hiring.
In corporations (at least in my experience) the hiring manager interviews at least 4 candidates. If the hiring manager doesn't find someone who fits the job, (despite the resume vetting and word matches) the corporation does not make a job offer.
Large corporations are a minority of total employment in the US. Companies under 400 employees don't have the luxury of hiring or retaining people who don't pull their weight.
@@kevinwoolley7960 That's fair, I don't disagree.
You miss the trees for the forest. There is A Lot of internal politcal conflict in public sector at all levels that blocks getting things done.
You should be more concerned about obesity rates in the us and the horrible expensive health system. The institutions suck that why we voted for trump
What specifically do you think Trump will do to solve these problems?
🤣
You control your weight. We are slender elders
I lived in BC during the pandemic and we had schools closed down after spring break in 2021 and an extended Christmas break. I had 2 children in school and it was a challenging time. The masks mandate, I don’t really understand what the big deal was, it’s just a simple mask and even if has little effect it does cut down on the spit that comes from your mouth when you talk. It’s a fact that the pandemic really changed how people think about their government and that’s what was reflected in the last US election and the future one to come here in Canada
I have a healthy diet of center left podcasts I listen to, Ezra Klein is one of them, seeing guests entertain the idea that we should throw the trans community under the bus if approval falls below 51% and just leaving that in the air is fucking radicalizing.
It just feels so hypocritically wrought with the same political austerity and hollowness they're criticizing here. That the Democratic Party's support for some of the most vulnerable people in society should just be minimized to appease an electorate that seems increasingly eager to make their lives worse.
It's just so heartless and ugly, man.
Donald Trump and the 2024 election has destroyed the Democratic moral fabric.
No 2016 and Bernie destroyed the moral fabric of the democrats, just now most people are seeing it
Why would you need a party that cannot win elections, which are decided by majority of voters, which majority doesn't really like culturally progressive stuff? To shout in opposition? Because they won't do anything without the mandate anyway.
@@firion666
As Ezra Klein wrote about many many many many many many many many many many many many many many many times… we live in a hyper-polarized society.
There is a bigger base of voters left-of-center than whatever the fuck Dems think a Liz Cheney-Kamala Harris voter is.
Democrats bet on their being a strong centrist class and their wasn’t.
Progressives still perform strong in races, they still dominate air time, there are still people going to bat for Bernie eight years on.
If you continue to run a Republican lite campaign the Democrats will continue to hemorrhage voters.
It’s that simple.
Not giving trans people everything they want is not "throwing them under the bus." The trans activist agenda is seen as anti-common sense by most people. Sorry.
When you say "anti Trans" to describe keeping biological men out of women's sports and bathrooms, or limiting hormonal and surgical treatments for minors, you are doing everyone a disservice. Most people support the right of adults to be whatever they want to be, but not to be playing sports against women, or using women's restrooms. That's not bigotry, it's common sense.
You can't defend the process if you can't defend the result
Maybe Trump winning again says we need to live in the 5-6 countries that are here instead of fighting over a dream that looks dead to me. Cascadia anyone out here on the west coast?
Only if Greater Idaho and Jefferson are allowed.
@@mr.raslyon6626 Not just allowed but welcome Greater Idaho and Jefferson. Blue city states like Seattle, New York, Boston, San Francisco are all tax exporters. We can stop funding wars we don't vote for and create a movement toward respecting our differences.
I'm surprised that discussion of a national divorce hasn't become a thing. I'm not saying I favor it, but it seems the polarization is severe enough that it should at least be considered.
NY times is so full of St
You never read the NYT, admit it.
@smartphoto59 not in a very long time
Very disingenuous remark by Klein about high speed rail around the 4:30 mark. There are plenty of trains you can board from that legislation. The issue is, it did not go to high speed rail, rather to improving conventional speed rail. There wasn't enough money in that entire bill for a single HSR project. So it was distributed in ways that it could do some good.
Nice one Ezra. Im a trump guy and i was nodding along on the bus listening to your intro.
No one who claims schools and businesses should have remained open during Covid when more 1 million Americans died should not be taken seriously as Teles suggests multiple times. And of course he does. He's a Federalist Society guy.
yes it does take too long now to get stuff done .. but not all of that lag is the federal gov't fault .. in WW2 we built 151 aircraft carriers and 2710 liberty ships in just 4 years .. and that doesn't count the thousands of planes tanks trucks jeeps and other weapons ... where there is the will they find a way ..
They still do, but we're deeply invested in that whole "military industrial complex" that someone mentioned long ago... Long story short, the country makes a lot of money from war (or should we say "conflict.")
@@nubius Procter and Gamble makes more money than the entire MIC put together, just fyi.
@@gogudelagaze1585 no argument here, and I'm sure you're well aware they do USG work too.
The government nationalized private industry...
I just heard two liberals and one conservative list of talking points in what I can only assume is tweed shrug for over an hour... What an informative podcast. Thank you, New York times.
Reference the Gephardt interview that a 535 person committee writes conflicting legislative rules to follow.
As it was meant to, the title of this vid reminds me of the "in this house we believe" signs. A thought just struck as to one of the problems with this idea... Everyone in the house believes the same things? Most houses I know have people with varying beliefs. To live in one of those sign houses is it a requirement to believe the correct things? Has the progressive left abandoned individuality completely? It certainly appears so.
It’s also just incredibly elitist & judgmental to post those signs. Who needs to assert that they believe in science? The implication is that everyone who disagrees with them is anti-science. But in reality, every branch of science has lots of different theories & views 😂
To be fair, they are basically empty platitudes that almost no one would oppose. The language is clearly coded to be interpreted in a certain way for liberals, but anyone reading the individual claims would probably agree with them, even if they would completely disagree with the actual residents.
I feel like youre reaching here. 'Abandoning individuality??' Grandiose language serves the voices in your head, but makes finding common ground difficult. 'Have NYT readers abandoned civility?' Cmon.
I hate those virtue signaling signs.
It’s an authoritarian impulse. In MY house we would never force such political beliefs on our kids.
Tele is actually attempting to view issues from both sides. Klein, not so much.
Thank you, Steven Teles.
Ezra.... Your are still focused on coming internal conflicts. Its time to move on
How about accountability of the oligarchs tipping the scales of influence in their favor?
Who’s going to hold Obama accountable though? Who polices Soros? Pritzker? Rothschild?
This is dreck. It's the economy stupid. Give working people more money and frame that as the primary focus of your messaging. Liberal cultural analysis doomspiral has to stop.
Yet you vote for Republicans, who will only put a greater tax burden on the middle class in favor of billionaires.
But but what about semi conductors and bike lanes?
Except wages are up the dems are the most pro union and they still lost
I guess I'm an older breed of Democrat, even though I'm only 36.
Not all institutions are the same.
NOAA, USGS, NASA, NIH are all net very positive.
DOD, DHS, FBI, CIA, NSA on the other hand...
Maybe that's just the undocumented immigrant in me talking.
Wow they still don’t get it…
Infuriating.
Instead of darkly hinting, would you mind expressing what you think they didn't get?
@@adambuchbinder2791 they don’t understand why they lost the election
This sounds like some big govt nonsense tbh. The government should be as small as we can get it.
this type of anti American talk makes China and Russia happy.
@@Eric-wd7kx embarassing bot user name. Im sure your paymasters feel this bot account is quite valuable.
Totally agree 💯
RFK Jr walked back his pro choice stance
Oh goodness, I love this
"You either die the hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"
Peter Boghossian - Breaking Down Trump's Education Plans
You people need to sit down and talk to some mega people you would find out you got a lot in common you're just so arrogant and inside your bubble you will not listen to reason they believe the same thing you believe
I couldn’t agree more with this. Even at the Times, what constitutes the necessary self reflection in the face of loss still relies on its core tenets as axes. If you cannot imagine the mind of another, you cannot understand yourself in the broader context of humanity.
I live in rural OH. Trump country, surrounded by Republicans of all types. They're not having nuanced conversations about politics. When they talk about problems, they blame the poor (or immigrants), bitch about "woke", and talk about Trans folks in bathrooms and sports. You know, brainwashed by RW propaganda. We all felt and are still feeling the pain from prices and the overall cost of living rising post pandemic, but they don't realize it was corporations raising prices and posting record profits. They just blame Biden (despite the IRA creating jobs and helping America more than its peers around the world). You are right, I have A LOT in common with my MAGA friends and family. I just don't swallow RW nonsense as the reasons for my problems.
you're in luck! ezra klein has been talking to some maga people! one of his most recent episodes was an interview with vivek ramaswamy
Maybe I should have been more clear why don't he sit and talk to Donald Trump himself
@@davidpolansky5848 maybe I should have been more clear he needs to interview Trump himself
Yes science and men can become women. 2020 Biden 2024 Trump
Science can become women?
I'm favoured, $60k every week! I can now give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church. God bless America.
how nice it must be in the top 1% ... and of course you're paying all your taxes ...
See? Here is where the system works, this is great!
MSM + Think Tank = ?
I think she is a bit off. Look at the corporate bureaucracies? Horrible!
No, it is not 90%. No, it is more than three steps. It depends on grade and professional demands.
There are so many rigorous requirements for fed jobs. HR does not want to be written up or something corporate never gets, a "Congressional Inquiry."
Government is not perfect, but a lot gets done at a lot of government agencies. What is she, Heritage! As Twain, She a Damn Lie! Which Think Tank pays her!
Again, look at corporate or non-profits. Hahaaa, really? We are just spoiled Americans. We are just never happy! She luv' that' Vivek mindset, haha. Fools!
So many gov offices are understaffed with Congressional untealistic visions. She did not talk about the congressional figures who are responsibles for many bureaucratic challenges.
Half of the govts job is making reports instead of doing anything. It's prevalent everywhere.
Bullshit it’s much easier becoming a civil servant now then 20yrs ago
"If you actually think there is a solution, then you are part of the problem . . . " ---George Carlin
This is pathetic nihilism. It's lazy and cheap. You should try to do better.
@@adambuchbinder2791 Oh, please; it is not nihilism. Rather, existentialism encourages engagement---simply without the jejune presumption of "solving" things that cannot be solved.
Talk about lazy! You should try growing up.
@@joiedevie3901 The original quote could be interpreted as saying that there are no solutions, so trying to solve things is pointless. Is this not what you're saying?
@@joiedevie3901 While there is no complete way to solve many problems it all boils down to what trade-offs you are willing to make. For every choice there will be consequences both intended and unintended. The question becomes can we live with the unintended consequences. This is where most progressives fail in that they rarely account for the fact the unintended consequences inherent in many of their solutions are worse than the solution. Or in my darker moments I think some actually want the unintended consequences in order to create a more chaotic situation.
@@adambuchbinder2791I don’t see how it could be interpreted any other way. Like is “reform”, “reconstruction”, etc a solution? What is the alternative to a solution? Or is everyone a problem?
Get out of your bubble you still don't know why you lost
enlighten us please .. top 3 reasons ...
@@direwolf6234I’m a Dem, but in this particular election I’ll give you the top 4 reasons Dems lost:
(1) inflation;
(2) illegal immigration/ open border;
(3) unpopular social policies; &
(4) undemocratic actions, eg, denying voters a primary & just replacing a candidate; lawfare to bankrupt & jail opponents for charges nobody else has ever faced; suing to keep RFK & Stein off ballots; suing to let illegal migrants vote (to prevent VA from purging them from voter rolls); using media as a tool for propaganda, etc.
@@direwolf6234I do it: things were perceived as better under Trump than Biden; Harris was a uniquely uninspiring candidate; moderate backlash against a democrat party that has pulled too far to the left - especially around wokism. Add on that Trump is uniquely charismatic and appealing to those who feel government doesn’t work for them.
@@direwolf6234enlighten yourself, bubble head.
This isn't a helpful comment. You're implying that you know why the Democrats lost, but you're not sticking your neck out by staking a position. It's cowardly.
Do better. What are the reasons the Democrats lost that they're not talking about? Why do you think you know them? What convinced you?
We need more "news paper podcasts" like this. I wonder if Helsingin Sanomat and Huvustadsbladet has something similar. I feel like the big news media companies in Europe already have this sort of thing set up.
Yeah slowly NYT is improving their podcast offerings.
DW (Germany’s PBS) makes mini-documentaries on topical issues that I listen to as podcasts at work sometimes. But I’m not sure if Europe has as many daily podcasts of this type
Givernment is captured by the private sector, public/private partnership. And by being sued to serve special interests.
It's the public sector unions and taxpayer funded grievance industry NGOs. They're rinsing us dry before the entire pyramid scheme collapses
Urban Americans are fed up with Real Estate Developers and gentrification. THAT"S what's driving homelessness and population loss. There is not a single affordable neighborhood left on the N side of Chicago. Tons of housing units have been built. They sell for hundreds of thousands to a million $. Rents on teeny, tiny "micro-apartments" are $1500-$2500. Two and three family homes that used to house families with children have been razed to build luxury apartment buildings with fewer bedrooms or have been turned into single family houses by wealthy buyers. THAT is why we elected a city council that is more responsive to residents than to reaal estate developers. We are also fed up with services that have been "contracted out" to private companies in such a way that no one is ultimately responsible for processes or outcomes. I'm a 64 y/o white woman. IDGAF about fare jumpers. Mass transit should get more government support so that people can get around and we can decrease congestion and pollution. "Socialism" is such an abused word. Europe, Korea, Taiwan provide citizens with plenty of public services and there is a high level of trust that tax $$--which they actually levy and collect from their billionaires and businesses--are being used for the public good.
Fare jumpers are why you can’t afford anything. Everyone must pay their share.
It's a shame that Steven still doesn't know how to pronounce Kamala Harris's first name.
Does it matter now? IMO she is now banished to a Dukakis-like oblivion.
I am more interested in beetles than going to Mars.
I’m interested in mars if it means people like Elon will take a one way trip off this planet
I’m more a Rolling Stones fan, but I hear what you’re saying.
Wow you must be angry then
NYT staff have such a “look” 😂. Do a few push ups.
Are you saying government failed because your side didn't win?
Basically, yes.
the funny part about this podcast is that, after saying "From New York Times Opinion, this is the Ezra Klein show" and playing the intro music, Ezra actually says more stuff. his guests usually say some stuff too. you should try listening to that stuff before asking what they're saying in the comments of the youtube video
Steven Teles looking like a middle-aged John Hurt
Ezra Klein is so smart that’s he’s dumb.
If I had time I’d put one of his needlessly drawn out quotes here and show how it’s internally incoherent (though he pains to make every idea perfect) and easily countered.
Somehow he still falls back to right vs left, so he needs to ends every thought with padding to reaffirm that he is on the left. It’s group-think.
We all have right and left thoughts and actions. Anyone who thinks they are on one side can’t see straight and isn’t living in reality. Anyone who says they agree with THE right and THE left on different issues can’t see that those are both mirages.
And I’ll never get on the Ezra Klein show because I don’t spend my life pushing paper and I don’t want to be famous, so I’m disqualified.
You could also try to write something useful, constructive, or informative
Ehhh Ezra didn’t DeSantis appoint that Ladapo guy as Surgeon general ? Bad example …we need good information now.
All my homies hate the Ezra Klein show. Smug echo chamber babble.
So sick of your both sides-ism Ezra specifically, and the nyt in general. Installing completely unqualified yes men while musk quietly defunds every department in government in order to divert the funds to themselves is not a solution for government bureaucracy
Ezra, face it, even when governance delivers socio-economically legitimate outcomes, it ends up corrupted. Stop wasting your life bitching about inherent human failings, read Amaranthine: How to Create a Regenerative Civilization Using Artificial Intelligence, and help the author create his socially-legitimate “Beautiful” society. please up-vote this so Ezra gets the message
What you think is stupid
The US is a republic not a democracy, quit whining about republicans not getting the majority all the time.
Ummm that’s a type of democracy you fool
iy's a mad , mad, mad world
Great interview she's got the problem down and the solutions she needs to be a decision maker