Finally! I feel like I've been endlessly arguing for this point of view and people have been telling me I'm crazy. Everyone seems to think she wrote this in the aftermath of their very short relationship during the eras tour, but the "fortnight" had nothing to do with the summer of 2023 and everything to do with whatever they were back in the 1989 era. Just speculation from lyrics she's given us and things on record in the media, but she met Matty in the fall of 2015, they briefly but intensely had something going on, something came between them (his addiction?) and she met her miracle move-on drug (Calvin Harris) in February (February!) of 2016, hoping he would erase Matty from her mind. He didn't. I also love the reference to New Year's Day and reputation, in general. I don't think there have ever been as many songs about Joe as the fandom typically believes. He wanted privacy. Wouldn't her candid songwriting violate that on some level? I could go on and on, so I'm going to force myself to stop now. Bless you for validating me! LOL
Yes! I believe based on the *evidence* that they had a fling or situationship sometime around 2014 2015 before she started dating Calvin Harris. I think they had contact in the years post his rehab in 2017.
I am enjoying your perspective! I became a fan of Taylor since Folklore and am obsessed with her lyrics and imagery. Some creators don't seem to grasp how she manipulates the lyrics and often calls back to other songs. Its amazing and I am enjoying hearing you discuss!
@@TheDrummersWife oh thank you so much! I’m really interested in the lore combined with the lyrics and seeing how the lyrics hint at things. I enjoy only lore videos but I’ve been wanting people to deep dive into the lyrics so I’m trying to do that to appreciate her lyrical talent too!
Hi Nina! Just found your channel and binged! I am very similar to you, majored in Print Journalism, and love Taylor! I have thoroughly enjoyed all your content, and love your perspective! I will comment my thoughts on Fortnight in another comment;just wanted you to know how special your channel is! It's refreshing to find another Swiftie as obsessed with the intertwining of the lyrics and lore as I am! I can't wait to see what you come up with next! Thank you for making such a wonderfully entertaining and thought-provoking channel,and look forward to seeing all you have to share! PS. LOVE your cat, and his name delights me!😂#ConwayKittyForPresident❤
Oh this comment made me so so so happy! I’m so glad you’re here! Conway Kitty will definitely be making more appearances in the future! I’ve been cutting him out the majority of the time but I’m thinking I’ll leave him in more! 😂
Taylor Swift said that she thought the fortnight video includes all of the stories she told on the TTPD album. So I think the end of the video with Taylor on top of the phone booth and Post reaching out to her, he is representing Travis. You said the "touch you" lyrics switch to present tense at the end, so it makes sense that wet Posty would be Travis. In real life he did reach out to her at her concert and through his podcast.
@@sonnymc4677 oh I love this thought! I also think in But Daddy I love him when she says “fuck em it’s over” it flips to being about Travis so I love the thought that this could be her looking up at the sky after being left “down bad” and she has Travis reach to her. Okay I LOVE this so much!
@@NinasNook I agree with you about Daddy I Love Him. Taylor basically confirmed it with the TTPD set on the eras tour. BDILH goes straight into So High School.
Loved this! 😊 I really like Tortured Poets and feel like I understand a lot of the story telling...but I have to admit that Fortnight was a mystery! So many of your thoughts on the lyrics made so much sense! Thanks!!
At the end your favorite image of the music video you say is the whirlwind and you refer to the cyclone but there is a very important one you are missing. Put that whirlwind in the water and you get a whirlpool. How do you create a whirlpool yourself? You swirl your spoon in your cup of tea/coffee for instance. And that is in fresh out the slammer where she says "Swirled you into all of my poems" and that is what I think is represented by the papers flying around them in the cyclone and those are the same papers that burn later on when the relation went up in flames.
Fun fact: Dead Poets Society came out in 1989. Also the word US on the book cover, in the video, is an Easter egg; it's the title of a song collab with Gracie Abrams, on her album The Secret of Us. That album was not yet released when the video came out. Also, that song is the track 5 on Gracie's album, because of course it is!
Taylor herself told us about the “US” Easter egg on the book?? The Bride Of Frankenstein was also released in 1989. That’s the scene setting of that part in the video. She also told us about the references when Dead Poets Society and the actors crossed over seamlessly into this song. 🤷🏼♀️
Hey Nina! You are working so hard. I loved this video! I enjoy listening to your explanation of this song. I learned a lot. Maybe she climbed on the phone booth because she wanted to show how difficult it was to reach him by phone. She and I both adore old stuff too. I think she likes to show old stuff because she adores it so. She and I are unique in that way. I love Taylor. One day I want to go to a concert with you. She is keeping me exercising on my bike with her music. Exercise is hard so I need her motivation. Thanks for explaining that song. Now I will thoroughly understand it when i hear it. Keep up the great work! I am proud of you! ♥️❤️🥰💕😍
Thank you so much! I’m just so happy that other people are watching and wanting to discuss these songs with me! I’m going to plan on 2-3 a week, at least while we get through TTPD! ❤️
Thank you. Almost all the other songs on the double album, I can figure out some sort of meaning behind it. This song was absolute random meaningless confusion. So thank you.
I always thought all the fans were really interesting in the part when all the paper is on fire, like it could represent when the “fans” wrote that open letter about her and Matty and why they shouldn’t be together.
I REALLY liked your interpretation and the way you laid it! Additionally, I liked your analysis of the music video, in particular the cyclon of papers in both scenes. I would like you to go with these videos of analysis chronologically as the tracklist. The reason is to interpret and understand the stories of the album as Taylor presented them. Thank you, keep going! 🤍
Thank you! That’s my current plan! I’m planning on doing all the tracks from TTPD, I will sprinkle in other videos throughout but I plan on doing them all. ❤️
Hi Nina, I just came about your channel today. I find your interpretations of the song so interesting & fun. I had a random thought. I see others have mentioned Travis perhaps being a main point she’s referring to. I can totally see that as well. The American phone booth, the TTPD bracelet, won’t start ‘til (I)(you) touch me..etc What’s your thoughts on this. ..she said she wrote this album while on tour. ..on New Height’s podcast Travis is making a bracelet for her with his # on it but couldn’t give it to her. He didn’t get to talk/see her because “she doesn’t talk to anyone before concerts. She has to save her voice” (the quotes may not be worded exactly as it was originally) Any connection here? Curious. 🤔
Yes I love this thought so much! I think I have now decided after reading comments that I believe the telephone booth with her looking up at the sky is a “down bad” moment where she’s looking to the sky, but “Travis” aka post Malone reaches out to her and breaks her from it. ❤ I’m so glad you liked the video! Thanks for being here!
This is the first of your videos I’ve watched (but I’ve done some pretty long deep dives online on TTPD lol) but you explained this SO well!! Really enjoyed your takes on things while also providing all of the necessary context. Going to binge your other videos while working now… 🫶
Also, just wanted to add: the end telephone box thing might represent her current relationship with Travis, just a theory but she allegedly didn’t meet him the first time he reached out because she wasn’t ready and then she reached back out to him a while later and they first started hanging out. There’s a really long Reddit theory that explains fortnight that basically says “They zoom in on the bracelet and ring as a nod to her friendship bracelet which in a way represents the start of their relationship” and the Spotify canvas has this scene with the bracelet for The Alchemy, so I think it’s a nod to that
Finally! I feel like I've been endlessly arguing for this point of view and people have been telling me I'm crazy. Everyone seems to think she wrote this in the aftermath of their very short relationship during the eras tour, but the "fortnight" had nothing to do with the summer of 2023 and everything to do with whatever they were back in the 1989 era. Just speculation from lyrics she's given us and things on record in the media, but she met Matty in the fall of 2015, they briefly but intensely had something going on, something came between them (his addiction?) and she met her miracle move-on drug (Calvin Harris) in February (February!) of 2016, hoping he would erase Matty from her mind. He didn't.
I also love the reference to New Year's Day and reputation, in general. I don't think there have ever been as many songs about Joe as the fandom typically believes. He wanted privacy. Wouldn't her candid songwriting violate that on some level? I could go on and on, so I'm going to force myself to stop now.
Bless you for validating me! LOL
Yes! I believe based on the *evidence* that they had a fling or situationship sometime around 2014 2015 before she started dating Calvin Harris. I think they had contact in the years post his rehab in 2017.
@@NinasNook Oops, yes. I got my years mixed up. 2014 meeting Matty and 2015 meeting Calvin.
I am enjoying your perspective! I became a fan of Taylor since Folklore and am obsessed with her lyrics and imagery. Some creators don't seem to grasp how she manipulates the lyrics and often calls back to other songs. Its amazing and I am enjoying hearing you discuss!
@@TheDrummersWife oh thank you so much! I’m really interested in the lore combined with the lyrics and seeing how the lyrics hint at things. I enjoy only lore videos but I’ve been wanting people to deep dive into the lyrics so I’m trying to do that to appreciate her lyrical talent too!
Hi Nina! Just found your channel and binged! I am very similar to you, majored in Print Journalism, and love Taylor! I have thoroughly enjoyed all your content, and love your perspective! I will comment my thoughts on Fortnight in another comment;just wanted you to know how special your channel is! It's refreshing to find another Swiftie as obsessed with the intertwining of the lyrics and lore as I am! I can't wait to see what you come up with next! Thank you for making such a wonderfully entertaining and thought-provoking channel,and look forward to seeing all you have to share!
PS. LOVE your cat, and his name delights me!😂#ConwayKittyForPresident❤
Oh this comment made me so so so happy! I’m so glad you’re here! Conway Kitty will definitely be making more appearances in the future! I’ve been cutting him out the majority of the time but I’m thinking I’ll leave him in more! 😂
Taylor Swift said that she thought the fortnight video includes all of the stories she told on the TTPD album. So I think the end of the video with Taylor on top of the phone booth and Post reaching out to her, he is representing Travis. You said the "touch you" lyrics switch to present tense at the end, so it makes sense that wet Posty would be Travis. In real life he did reach out to her at her concert and through his podcast.
@@sonnymc4677 oh I love this thought! I also think in But Daddy I love him when she says “fuck em it’s over” it flips to being about Travis so I love the thought that this could be her looking up at the sky after being left “down bad” and she has Travis reach to her. Okay I LOVE this so much!
@@NinasNook I agree with you about Daddy I Love Him. Taylor basically confirmed it with the TTPD set on the eras tour. BDILH goes straight into So High School.
@@sonnymc4677yessss I’m so glad so high school has its little moment. I find it cute. 😂
I took believe the phone booth Posty is Travis, he is wearing similar clothing that Travis has worn after a game. Only missing a beanie.
there is also a friendship bracelet in the phone boot (That is an Amarican phone booth) and malone seem to have Travis ring on him)
Loved this! 😊 I really like Tortured Poets and feel like I understand a lot of the story telling...but I have to admit that Fortnight was a mystery! So many of your thoughts on the lyrics made so much sense! Thanks!!
I’m so happy to hear this! I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
I think first part is Joe (locked up), middle is Matty (move on drug and I love you but ruining my life) ant the very end, present tense, it's Traius.
This is what I’m thinking now too!
At the end your favorite image of the music video you say is the whirlwind and you refer to the cyclone but there is a very important one you are missing. Put that whirlwind in the water and you get a whirlpool. How do you create a whirlpool yourself? You swirl your spoon in your cup of tea/coffee for instance. And that is in fresh out the slammer where she says "Swirled you into all of my poems" and that is what I think is represented by the papers flying around them in the cyclone and those are the same papers that burn later on when the relation went up in flames.
I enjoyed this, especially because I hadn't noticed the 'but' before and it changed the way I listen to the song. Thanks!
I’m so glad you liked it! The “but” threw me for a loop when I noticed it was there too!
Fun fact: Dead Poets Society came out in 1989. Also the word US on the book cover, in the video, is an Easter egg; it's the title of a song collab with Gracie Abrams, on her album The Secret of Us. That album was not yet released when the video came out. Also, that song is the track 5 on Gracie's album, because of course it is!
Taylor herself told us about the “US” Easter egg on the book?? The Bride Of Frankenstein was also released in 1989. That’s the scene setting of that part in the video. She also told us about the references when Dead Poets Society and the actors crossed over seamlessly into this song. 🤷🏼♀️
Hey Nina! You are working so hard. I loved this video! I enjoy listening to your explanation of this song. I learned a lot. Maybe she climbed on the phone booth because she wanted to show how difficult it was to reach him by phone. She and I both adore old stuff too. I think she likes to show old stuff because she adores it so. She and I are unique in that way. I love Taylor. One day I want to go to a concert with you. She is keeping me exercising on my bike with her music. Exercise is hard so I need her motivation. Thanks for explaining that song. Now I will thoroughly understand it when i hear it. Keep up the great work! I am proud of you! ♥️❤️🥰💕😍
this is great. please do more.
Thank you so much! I hope to have more up soon!!
Another great video! You're by far my favorite Taylor lyric analyst, cant wait for the next one! 🫶
Thank you so much! I’m just so happy that other people are watching and wanting to discuss these songs with me! I’m going to plan on 2-3 a week, at least while we get through TTPD! ❤️
Thank you. Almost all the other songs on the double album, I can figure out some sort of meaning behind it. This song was absolute random meaningless confusion. So thank you.
I'm a new swiftie and English major and I am here for this!!!
Yay! I’m so glad you found me, and found Taylor’s music! I’m glad you’re here!
I always thought all the fans were really interesting in the part when all the paper is on fire, like it could represent when the “fans” wrote that open letter about her and Matty and why they shouldn’t be together.
@@bpez27 ooooh I love this thought! I do 100% think she claps back at the fans in But Daddy I Love Him - I can’t wait for us to get to that track! 🥰
I REALLY liked your interpretation and the way you laid it! Additionally, I liked your analysis of the music video, in particular the cyclon of papers in both scenes. I would like you to go with these videos of analysis chronologically as the tracklist. The reason is to interpret and understand the stories of the album as Taylor presented them. Thank you, keep going! 🤍
Thank you! That’s my current plan! I’m planning on doing all the tracks from TTPD, I will sprinkle in other videos throughout but I plan on doing them all. ❤️
@NinasNook Excited to watch them all 🖤
Hi Nina, I just came about your channel today. I find your interpretations of the song so interesting & fun. I had a random thought. I see others have mentioned Travis perhaps being a main point she’s referring to. I can totally see that as well. The American phone booth, the TTPD bracelet, won’t start ‘til (I)(you) touch me..etc What’s your thoughts on this. ..she said she wrote this album while on tour. ..on New Height’s podcast Travis is making a bracelet for her with his # on it but couldn’t give it to her. He didn’t get to talk/see her because “she doesn’t talk to anyone before concerts. She has to save her voice” (the quotes may not be worded exactly as it was originally) Any connection here? Curious. 🤔
Was the book with “US” on the front at the end of the video? Do you remember at what time the song US was written?
Yes I love this thought so much! I think I have now decided after reading comments that I believe the telephone booth with her looking up at the sky is a “down bad” moment where she’s looking to the sky, but “Travis” aka post Malone reaches out to her and breaks her from it. ❤ I’m so glad you liked the video! Thanks for being here!
maybe the telephone booth is representing london? they are famous for their telephone booths.
This is definitely possible for sure!!
I definitely think this could be possible!
It isn't about TS, MH, or JA...
This is the first of your videos I’ve watched (but I’ve done some pretty long deep dives online on TTPD lol) but you explained this SO well!! Really enjoyed your takes on things while also providing all of the necessary context. Going to binge your other videos while working now… 🫶
Also, just wanted to add: the end telephone box thing might represent her current relationship with Travis, just a theory but she allegedly didn’t meet him the first time he reached out because she wasn’t ready and then she reached back out to him a while later and they first started hanging out. There’s a really long Reddit theory that explains fortnight that basically says “They zoom in on the bracelet and ring as a nod to her friendship bracelet which in a way represents the start of their relationship” and the Spotify canvas has this scene with the bracelet for The Alchemy, so I think it’s a nod to that
Thank you so much! I’m so glad you enjoyed it and are here!