Guess we'll never really know what really happened between all of them and behind each new member being brought in. Still, they all had their input and added many things to the UK pop world. Love them all, talented women!
I think Keisha didn’t feel Siobhan’s absence until after both Mutya and Siobhan were missing together. If you watch The Mirror interview (2008) you will see Keisha reminisce of Siobhan and Mutya (awkwardly in front of Amelle). I do feel sympathy for Keisha having the entire pressure of her childhood band on her shoulders as the only original member left.
Thats a good point: the pressure Keisha must have felt to carry the success of the band (as she was the only original member left). People forget that she did that, it was her who carried and led the band from start to finish. She is the real heart of Sugababes.
@@thomasofarabia I agree. Keisha seemed to have fun with the third lineup but there was always a sense of loneliness that I had sympathy for. I do need to point out that Keisha really finessed the harmonies with Amelle and Heidi in their studio albums. She carried the heart and essence of Sugababes until she got kicked out.
Sad that Mutya never spoke to Heidi when she left, but she spoke to Keisha after she left. I'm sure that Heidi was hurt by that, to the point where she realized that the only bond she has with the girls is a business one.
I guess Mutya and Keisha had been friends for years even before Sugababes. Then Heidi and Amelle became really close. I can imagine it was hard for Heidi coming in originally and so got what Amelle would've been feeling joining the band
Mutya and Keisha had been friends since the age of 8 or 9. Mutya had her reasons why she didn't speak to Heidi and why she still doesn't speak to Heidi and she only has herself to blame.
I thought it was when Heidi passed a few comments which seemed to disreguard mutyas situation (postpartum depression after having Tahlia) mutya turned up to wish them well & apparrently she wasnt warm about it
1:08 Amelle was thinking: _I didn't achieve any of that though_ 😂. Heidi's dog is cute as bum! Keisha's beauty really peaked at that time, even though she still looks super beautiful as if she hasn't aged a day.
Well she had 2 Nr. Singles at least :D Walk This Way and the biggest selling song About You Now. Keisha and Heidi all 6 Nr.1. Mutya 4/6. Siobhan and Jade 0
@@Philipp19967 Walk this way was a charity single and had Girls Aloud on it. All you can keep saying is "they had their biggest hit with her" but in the grand scheme of things, that is all. Mutya got all the rest, she also co wrote 3 of the 4 #1s she's on.
@@Philipp19967 and also in their setlists, the 3rd line up hardly ever did About You Now in their setlists, they never did Walk This Way, their set lists comprised of almost all of the 2nd line ups hits, they always did Push the button, in fact they probably did Overload more in their sets than they did About You Now. Same with the 4th line up, their whole setlists were 2.0 songs and a couple from Sweet 7. #Facts
@@Right_Direction_ they always included about you now? On the entire change tour and also on shorter gigs to promote other albums. No idea where you got this from
@@Right_Direction_ as I said Mutya 4/6 Amelle 2/6. Heidi and Keisha 6/6 Siobhan and Jade 0. I don't see what is wrong there lol And yes About you Now is the most sold and most streamed Sugababes track. Not my fault lol.
I didn't like how Keisha said that when Heidi joined is when they became the “SUGABABES”. I really do love Heidi, but for me they became the SUGABABES when they started.
100% true. The sound was gone, they became inconsistent, struggling to maintain any form of momentum. Keisha did her best to keep it going, but she said it best herself, with each girl leaving it became harder to do, by the end she was embarrassed and found their music cringe worthy.
@@Philipp19967 yeah she was Beyoncé, she brought all their success, she wrote all their songs, she sang everything, they owe all their platinum and gold discs all to her, what was it you also said on another video? Oh yes "she ghost writes hits for other artists" even though there is no such term in the music industry, and no she doesn't. Stop trying to make her time in the group more important/successful than it actually was. Songs hitting the top 10 don't make them hits, they didn't sell the albums they were taken from, Change sold half of what the previous 3 albums did despite having their biggest hit on it, it had no other hit, don't bother with the line "denial was a hit in Germany" because again Change barely charted there and the 2 following albums didn't even chart in Germany and the following 2 are their lowest selling albums overall. They hit a high with about you now and then was struggle city after that.
@@Right_Direction_ change sold 500k. Three around 800k. 500k in the UK is no flop. It is as much as the entire Saturdays album sold combined lol. I didn't say she wrote all. Keisha has always been the group's writer. She wrote more than Mutya, Heidi and Amelle. She was the Sugababes to me. But without Mutya they were doing just fine. Change tour was their biggest tour yet in the UK. In 2006 they had their first arena tour as well. C&S in terms of quality and reviews was higher than TIMW and Keisha rated it above three Even years after leaving. And yes Sweet7 is garbage. No one will argue with that man.
@@BoulevardeTV yep, accept it. Heidi's more a SB that Siobahn, Heidi's lasted much more in the band and she was there in the most successful moments of their careers. It's the truth. You only-original-hard-core fans are the most annoying and disgusting fanbase ever. You go F off. Oh, and "love an peace" [Ironic mode off]
Seeing it that way it's now much clearer why Heidi teamed up with Amelle back in 2009. Maybe she was jealous of the good conection of Amelle and Keisha (which they pretty sure had, they spent alot of time together without Heidi. Some people always try to find things which aren't there...) and then she saw her chance to change that. Which kind of worked, because nowedays she seems to have the good conection to Amelle and Jade always seems like the fifth wheel.
Sadly in the US they never would have made it. It's still about "Marketing" They could have been in a White Teen Magazine but never a Black Teen Magazine because of the Demographics and Politics
I know that hard to be so very hard for Keisha to see everything she worked so hard for just drastically change and to not have any control over replacing mutya instead of taking a break which is what i believe they needed after she left instead of carrying on with business. Those old white men were money hungry.
They were very lucky that they were able to perservere because when Diana Ross left The Supremes and Florence Ballard got Fired Mary Wilson (RIP) had a very hard time keeping the Music going. Even when they went through Group changes they still continued to keep their fan base. Only Destiny's Child were able to perservere as well.
@@Philipp19967 And that's all, 2 #1s (one was a charity single) 2 other hits (one was a re record) the rest? Flop flop flop flop. She brought nothing to the table, I said she ruined the group, because in my opinion she did, they were inconsistent with her, biggest hit or not, Mutya got all the rest. Amelle ultimately brought them their downfall and aside from their biggest hit, their two lowest selling albums and another (Change) despite having their biggest hit on it, only had ONE HIT on it and the album sold half of what the previous 3 studio albums did #Facts.
Guess we'll never really know what really happened between all of them and behind each new member being brought in. Still, they all had their input and added many things to the UK pop world. Love them all, talented women!
I think Keisha didn’t feel Siobhan’s absence until after both Mutya and Siobhan were missing together. If you watch The Mirror interview (2008) you will see Keisha reminisce of Siobhan and Mutya (awkwardly in front of Amelle). I do feel sympathy for Keisha having the entire pressure of her childhood band on her shoulders as the only original member left.
Thats a good point: the pressure Keisha must have felt to carry the success of the band (as she was the only original member left). People forget that she did that, it was her who carried and led the band from start to finish. She is the real heart of Sugababes.
@@thomasofarabia I agree. Keisha seemed to have fun with the third lineup but there was always a sense of loneliness that I had sympathy for.
I do need to point out that Keisha really finessed the harmonies with Amelle and Heidi in their studio albums. She carried the heart and essence of Sugababes until she got kicked out.
Sad that Mutya never spoke to Heidi when she left, but she spoke to Keisha after she left. I'm sure that Heidi was hurt by that, to the point where she realized that the only bond she has with the girls is a business one.
Maybe Heidi wasn’t as nice as she appeared.
I guess Mutya and Keisha had been friends for years even before Sugababes. Then Heidi and Amelle became really close. I can imagine it was hard for Heidi coming in originally and so got what Amelle would've been feeling joining the band
Mutya and Keisha had been friends since the age of 8 or 9. Mutya had her reasons why she didn't speak to Heidi and why she still doesn't speak to Heidi and she only has herself to blame.
Mutya was banned from all the events Sugababes were appearing at! which left her with a bitter taste at the tym!
I thought it was when Heidi passed a few comments which seemed to disreguard mutyas situation (postpartum depression after having Tahlia)
mutya turned up to wish them well & apparrently she wasnt warm about it
1:08 Amelle was thinking: _I didn't achieve any of that though_ 😂.
Heidi's dog is cute as bum!
Keisha's beauty really peaked at that time, even though she still looks super beautiful as if she hasn't aged a day.
Well she had 2 Nr. Singles at least :D Walk This Way and the biggest selling song About You Now. Keisha and Heidi all 6 Nr.1. Mutya 4/6. Siobhan and Jade 0
@@Philipp19967 Walk this way was a charity single and had Girls Aloud on it. All you can keep saying is "they had their biggest hit with her" but in the grand scheme of things, that is all. Mutya got all the rest, she also co wrote 3 of the 4 #1s she's on.
@@Philipp19967 and also in their setlists, the 3rd line up hardly ever did About You Now in their setlists, they never did Walk This Way, their set lists comprised of almost all of the 2nd line ups hits, they always did Push the button, in fact they probably did Overload more in their sets than they did About You Now. Same with the 4th line up, their whole setlists were 2.0 songs and a couple from Sweet 7. #Facts
@@Right_Direction_ they always included about you now? On the entire change tour and also on shorter gigs to promote other albums. No idea where you got this from
@@Right_Direction_ as I said Mutya 4/6
Amelle 2/6.
Heidi and Keisha 6/6
Siobhan and Jade 0.
I don't see what is wrong there lol
And yes About you Now is the most sold and most streamed Sugababes track. Not my fault lol.
After mutya left, sugababes change and they wasn't good enought and the tragedy for me is when keisha left . Not sugababes anymore
loved the original line up but for me the defining line up was keisha, mutya and heidi amelle could never fill mutyas shoes
I didn't like how Keisha said that when Heidi joined is when they became the “SUGABABES”. I really do love Heidi, but for me they became the SUGABABES when they started.
Wrong Sugababes took off when Heidi joined.
Yhh sugababes took off when Heidi started the band. Siobhan was like the lead singer when she was in the band.
Sugababes died when Mutya left. Sorry Amelle!
It's true though, it's like Natasha leaving Atomic Kitten and getting replaced, Liz is still there but would it be really Atomic Kitten?
How they managed to get their biggest selling song after Mutya and another Nr1 album and 7 Top10 Singles
100% true. The sound was gone, they became inconsistent, struggling to maintain any form of momentum. Keisha did her best to keep it going, but she said it best herself, with each girl leaving it became harder to do, by the end she was embarrassed and found their music cringe worthy.
@@Philipp19967 yeah she was Beyoncé, she brought all their success, she wrote all their songs, she sang everything, they owe all their platinum and gold discs all to her, what was it you also said on another video? Oh yes "she ghost writes hits for other artists" even though there is no such term in the music industry, and no she doesn't. Stop trying to make her time in the group more important/successful than it actually was. Songs hitting the top 10 don't make them hits, they didn't sell the albums they were taken from, Change sold half of what the previous 3 albums did despite having their biggest hit on it, it had no other hit, don't bother with the line "denial was a hit in Germany" because again Change barely charted there and the 2 following albums didn't even chart in Germany and the following 2 are their lowest selling albums overall. They hit a high with about you now and then was struggle city after that.
@@Right_Direction_ change sold 500k.
Three around 800k.
500k in the UK is no flop. It is as much as the entire Saturdays album sold combined lol.
I didn't say she wrote all. Keisha has always been the group's writer. She wrote more than Mutya, Heidi and Amelle. She was the Sugababes to me.
But without Mutya they were doing just fine. Change tour was their biggest tour yet in the UK. In 2006 they had their first arena tour as well. C&S in terms of quality and reviews was higher than TIMW and Keisha rated it above three Even years after leaving.
And yes Sweet7 is garbage. No one will argue with that man.
Wish they had brought a little attention to Siobhan...
So glad the originals are back together
Heidi ain't back though. She is more of an original than the ginger one.
@@loveandpeace_totheworld or F off !
@@BoulevardeTV yep, accept it. Heidi's more a SB that Siobahn, Heidi's lasted much more in the band and she was there in the most successful moments of their careers. It's the truth. You only-original-hard-core fans are the most annoying and disgusting fanbase ever. You go F off. Oh, and "love an peace" [Ironic mode off]
7:52 I'm loving that. All three doing graces with their voices.
Ironically the man is Heidi's ex-fiancé. They broke up early this year :'(
How's that ironic?
Seeing it that way it's now much clearer why Heidi teamed up with Amelle back in 2009. Maybe she was jealous of the good conection of Amelle and Keisha (which they pretty sure had, they spent alot of time together without Heidi. Some people always try to find things which aren't there...) and then she saw her chance to change that. Which kind of worked, because nowedays she seems to have the good conection to Amelle and Jade always seems like the fifth wheel.
lucky man 48 hours with the ladies, i enjoy being with the ladies, ladies are the best.
i mean...how sweet is Heidi? she is just soooooooo sweet and looks and sounds like such a nice woman..and i like her dialect too, where is she from ?
Shes from Liverpool, England
Sadly in the US they never would have made it. It's still about "Marketing" They could have been in a White Teen Magazine but never a Black Teen Magazine because of the Demographics and Politics
I love Heidi x
I love her more
Mutya Keisha and Siobhan just have soul when they sing the other girls just didn’t have that
I know that hard to be so very hard for Keisha to see everything she worked so hard for just drastically change and to not have any control over replacing mutya instead of taking a break which is what i believe they needed after she left instead of carrying on with business. Those old white men were money hungry.
They were very lucky that they were able to perservere because when Diana Ross left The Supremes and Florence Ballard got Fired Mary Wilson (RIP) had a very hard time keeping the Music going. Even when they went through Group changes they still continued to keep their fan base. Only Destiny's Child were able to perservere as well.
41:41 I know this was filmed 13 years ago, but did he seriously say "Keisha, Amella, and the tr*nny" here?
He was Heidis fiance. Idk weird relationship lol
Heidi's accent is amazing but I can't get most of the things she says lol
taste of class here 41:58 i hear Zero 7 music playing in the background....they are a very special Entity ,that has to be discovered
Does anybody know what is the name of the song Amelle starts singing at 2:12?
It's "Rocks" by Primal Scream.
ZO GOOD
Amelle came along, ruined the group THE END
She came and they got 2 Nr. 1 songs. One of them is their biggest selling single.
@@Philipp19967 And that's all, 2 #1s (one was a charity single) 2 other hits (one was a re record) the rest? Flop flop flop flop. She brought nothing to the table, I said she ruined the group, because in my opinion she did, they were inconsistent with her, biggest hit or not, Mutya got all the rest. Amelle ultimately brought them their downfall and aside from their biggest hit, their two lowest selling albums and another (Change) despite having their biggest hit on it, only had ONE HIT on it and the album sold half of what the previous 3 studio albums did #Facts.
turn on the captions hahaha
maybe she's a an original member....just sayin who cares about the new line up sugafakes?
Pukka !
U can tell keisha has got some kind of attitude
How can u tell? Anything in particular she said?
@@TheLongdarktunnel in her segment..in the kitchen, which is not impressive btw
Foreal! I like her but she does have an attitude!
lol no silly you're just racist that's all