2023 Update: What's The Latest With The Boeing 777X?
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2023
- Over three years after its first flight, and first delivery target, the Boeing 777X still finds itself in the certification process. Boeing's latest widebody has been hit with delays due to COVID but it hasn’t stopped there. Engine troubles and extra regulator scrutiny have also been factors in pushing back the first delivery by roughly five years. However, the planemaker has been busy in recent months, restarting tests and even booking new customers. Here's the latest on the 777X in 2023.
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If Dave Calhoun losing a bonus is a sign that Boeing is going back to focusing on engineering instead of shareholders, then it's a very good sign.
Not really. He still made ONLY 22.5 million in total comp in 2022. Canceling his bonus was just optics.
Not at all. If they gave the bonus to engineers for making the milestones then I would agree.
It's Boeing trying to safe face and avoid a massive media blitz if he got bonuses.
@@soccerguy2433 The top CEOs in the United States made well over $200 million, many made over $100 million. Dave Calhoun's salary is chump change in comparison.
@@sainnt Maybe 1 or 3 made that much. Only seen that kinda number for the Alphabet CEO. Tim Cook of Apple, the highest margin company in the world ONLY made about $100 million last year.
@@johniii8147 Stephen Shwarzman. Blackstone. $253M.
Sundar Pichai. Alphabet. $226M.
Stephen Scherr. Hertz. $182M.
Barry McCarthy. Peloton. $168M.
Michael Rapino. Live Nation. $139M.
Safra Catz. Oracle. $138M.
Douglas Ingram. Sarepta Therapeutics. $125M.
Bill Ready. Pinterest. $123M.
I think the fact that the FAA are being so strict on certain aspects of the 777X development means that Boeing have to get it right. This could lead it to being a long-term long haul wide body work horse for decades to come, like the 737 has been for short to medium haul narrow bodies for the last few decades. There is an honesty about the CEO not receiving a bonus. Irish bankers got bonuses they didn't deserve at the height of austerity after the financial crisis a decade and a half ago.
Boeing as far as safety has no choice but to get everything right from now on.
@@boondockduaneI agree
@@boondockduane I wholeheartedly agree with the statement. The FAA's strictness regarding certification will likely influence other nations' aviation regulators. If Boeing hasn't provided enough information to the FAA to demonstrate the safety of their jet, it raises doubts about whether other countries' aviation regulators would want this aircraft in their skies.
@@SuperAirplanemaster a great post, I have been on this story for some time. Boeing made a huge move getting route testing by Emirates in 2024. It will definitely get EASA and others on final approval. As of now EASA is on track with FAA and Boeing
Safety is very important.... remember that
Nice to hear they have a fire under new C.E.O.s they need to be performance based pay, engineering focused, true leadership needs to come back to Boeing.
Paine Field in Everett, WA where Boeing builds the 777X has become a giant parking lot for the big plane already assembled.
How many 777x's have already been made?
@@jakewatson2660 As of April, 2022, Boeing has already built and rolled out four flight test models and 20 production 777X jets.
@@jakewatson2660around 15-20
Then send to tata air India as,soon as possible, we desperately waiting in india😢
@@richardsking itna bhi desperate honi ki jarurat nhi hai 😂
Those aircrafts were built for their launch customers.
I'm in Spokane, WA and just saw 2 of these huge planes fly over my apt. complex. This thing is a monster.
I was flying to SEA in April on an approach from the north and we passed BFI right as one was coming off the taxiway
The bonus for the CEO is terrible. Surely offering money as an incentive to get the 777X certified is a bad thing... that feels like it is an encouragement to rush the certification of the aircraft. Luckily, it sounds like the necessary steps are being taken to ensure its safe operation, and the CEO hasn't rushed the development to get his bonus. I have no doubt that this plane will be safe when it finally enters service.
I agree and I feel this new CEO is want the plane safe then get his bouns because he know if this plane is safe for years to come it could bring Boeing aircraft back in the good graces of the flying and keep the trust of the flying public for generations to comes
They didn’t give him a bonus. they took it away. Pay attention to the video.
@@TacticaLLR I don’t know if your reply was went for me, but if it was, I simply meant the idea of the bonus was terrible. I know he never got it 🙂.
@@Alexander-vc5wg yeah but I feel like the bonus is expected as part of his pay, and he didn’t get it. However I do agree his overall pay should be docked slightly instead of not getting the bonus. But this is still good progress for the company.
Bonuses for meeting targets are a fantastic way of motivating great people to achieve great things.
As long as the targets he had to meet were very precise and well designed there is nothing wrong with it at all.
If it was simply deliver and get your money no matter what the product looks like then it’s an obvious problem.
No sane company would do that though.
Year 3076: “so we would like to inform the 777X has entered service! Development began more than a millennium ago!”
Over a Millenia*
@@robertbruce2182 * Over a millennium (unless it stretches to 2076 when 2 millennia would be correct.)
Why don’t you try and get it certified then since you clearly know better than aircraft manufacturers at aircraft certifying
@@filledwithvariousknowledge2747found the triggered Boeing fanboy
@@deltafox757He ain't triggered unlike you
Finally a CEO that didn't get a bonus when the company is in huge trouble...
Don't be too excited. He still made 22 million last year
Looking forward to flying one of the eventual 12 deliveries of this jet in about 10 years.
Me too!
why? whats new for the pax?
I will die peacefully before this aircraft enters service.
Unless your really old I highly doubt it
means u will die nxt yr😂😂😂
That’s optimistic of you
@@filledwithvariousknowledge2747good luck when the plane is delayed again in 2084
I consider the loss or not of the CEO's bonus to be the ultimate concern of a company that should put the affidability of their planes and the safety of their passengers at the forefront of their policies.
As the tragedies of the 737 Max have shown, that hasn't always been their priority in the past.
Ceo of Boeing said they are very confident for entry of this jet in service in MID 2025 not early 2025
In other words...2026
@@frankpinmtl No, MID 2025
They are very confident
@@nick..2387 Sure - just like the Max 7 was EIS in 2023
Saw one of these beauties land at Boeing Field a few days ago. I was amazed by the size.
It has a very elegant shape to it. The swept wings, long fuselage, and the twin large high by-pass engines really look nice.
Looking forward to flying in one soon, can't wait.
If you consider 3 to 5 years soon, you should get your chance.
The bonus should only be paid if the customers are happy and the product is safe. Giving him a bonus based on the delivery date alone seems like a dangerous incentive.
Well, it worked out so well for the 737 Max...
No hurry la, 77W in most airlines are very alive and active, ride one yesterday. No need for replacement now
Boeing 777 and 747 are real badass of aircrafts..
Such a huge passanger capacity with a top speed of 1250 km/h for such a huge aircraft is very impressive!-
It must be the most tested aircraft of all time !
That’s a plane I want to fly in. They’re taking their time doing it and doing it right. Well done Boeing! Unlike the max , I think they’ve learned their lesson.
It is not delayed because they are taking time to get it right, it is delayed because there are a bunch of problems similar to the situation they had with 787. The original EIS was 2020!!! For it hit EIS in 2025 is completely unacceptable. The core of Boeing has been carved out, they can clearly no longer execute. The old planes, pre 787 were not delayed anything like this. It really does not matter though, because right now there is just the Boeing-Airbus duopoly. Without competition to set things straight, things will continue to stagnate.
There was a test flight today! They really are working on this bird.
They have been flying tons of test flights.
I work directly on this project, the deadlines are always being pushed back
Probably the most graceful looking aircraft out there ❤.
When it's ready it will be the safest aircraft in the skies I'm sure. We're all excited to see them in passenger and freight service!
i am currently working on the -8F, the talk about the -9 taking priority is false! due to government emission reg changes in 2027, we won’t be able to make the older variants so we do have a strict deadline on this project. to be honest i think as it stands it is a very feasible goal
How is it Calhoun’s fault if recent delays are due to GE90x issues and FAA delays?
What a magnificent aeroplane!!!! You guys at Boeing are so amazing! I am already a777 fan and so looking forward to flying on one of these as soon as possible. Alan , UK
You do know that Boeing doesn't monitor this? This isn't Boeing UA-cam.
@@heidirabenau511thanx captain buzz kill
Boein delayed delivery of 777x 8 9 due to Max 2 tragedies. I think they just want to make sure the full airworthiness of this aircraft without any major accident its their reputation is at stake.
Can’t wait to see this beauty on the sky !!!!!!!🙏🙏🙏
wow, love 777-9x
Watched a 777XF flying over my house in Oklahoma twice this morning. (have pictures) 😁
I dont belive he deserved that bonus. He didn't fufill his promise
the board admitting that their decision on the MAX MurderCAS hiding from airlines and pilots killed innocent people?
cant wait to fly this jet in 2069
I thank the B777X is best twin engine jet ✈️ liner for future 👌🏾👌🏾👍🏾♥️♥️✈️✈️✈️
We have to remember also the 777 come with a new technology none seen in a passenger plane. The folding wingtip is new in the makers, and everything needs to be sure in orders to get in. I am happy the progrms is still going besides the problems since 7x is something I want to step in in the future and not the only one waiting.
did you have a stroke, sir?
@@erich930I am sorry?
@@sergiolaurencio7534the folding wingtip is old stuff. The original 777 had that as an option as well, but not a single airline wanted it.
So what’s the new technology never seen in a plane?!
They are not going to certify this plane until Boeing decertifies one of their other planes… The B-52
Interesting. Would that be because of limited engineering resources ?
@david.b4186 more like because "horses ass" 😂
this makes no sense 🙄
@@Christian-nl7cm Its a joke... We will see the B-52, which is 70 years old and still flying, retired before we see the 777X certified.
the -8 won’t be used for passengers at least for right now, it’s strictly cargo
They first wanna see what the -9 will conclude
Glad Emirates is husbanding this airframe into service
Thanks for sharing this exciting news indeed. One can think about Kirchhoff's law in terms of energy conservation. A body that is absorbing energy and yet remains in thermal equilibrium must be releasing that equivalent energy.
A solar panel is already "breaking" the law since the panel is able to absorb the energy, remain in thermal equilibrium and yet emit less radiation as the missing energy is flowing out as electrons.
This research is similar to other concept of layering solar panels with photoelectric materials that work at different wavelengths of light, enabling more energy conversion.
What engine is being put on the 777x? Curious if they're having engine issues
GE9X
The GE9X development is going better and with fewer issues than the RB211 development everyone's forgetting to mention - it had even more technical problems during its development, and early on in service, the RB211 had horrendous reliability, and then it became synonymous with reliability. With the track record of the superior reliability of the GE90/GEnx, it's totally reasonable to expect the GE9X to continue that reliability.
N779XW arrived in Dubai on November 7, 2023
Certification delays aside, these 777 - X models will still not replace A380 and 747-400 -8 capacity. So what are the airlines planning to do to make up the shortfall ?? Increase route frequency? The major world airports are already nearing pre Covid capacity....
Where is air india o that
Despite production hiccups, I see decades of production.
you're more optimistic than Boeing then...
The 2024 777-9 Emirates route testing was the nearly silent news that should have been huge at Paris. We were shocked that we were the only ones totally excited for this huge news at our firm. (Commercial Aviation Analytics) as everyone only speaks of setbacks. We watch 777-N779XW fly very regularly. It was impressive at Paris like the other shows it flies around the world to attend.
It will change the long haul market
How exactly will it change the long haul market? The A350-1000 has been flying for 6 years now.
Yes it will change the long range market as 2nd after the a350. (Project sunrise) as an example
@@carloseira9148 it will clean the a350’s clock and over take the market. Our market research has every long haul carrier going big with the 777-9 and air cargo with 777-F
These are facts as there will be nothing bigger on efficiency per paid fare. Emirates has already started scheduling a380’s out of service in the coming two years. The a 380 while a impressive aircraft is a inefficient airframe which still does not generate positive revenue on every flight. Based on paid fares and extra operations costs at the airport and gates. The a350 though a beautiful aircraft will not have the per fare efficiencies of the 777 with GE9X
@@nathd1748 the a350 is not as as efficient and will not be as efficient per paid fare as the 777-9. Airbus should have made a a250-1200 or 1500 first
@@carloseira9148 no, 777x airframes will be more efficient with the GE9X and efficiency with paid fares
I’m hesitant to fly on a plane with wing tips that are not stationary. Especially with all the issues Boeing has had in the last few years. They would need to do a lot to get me, as a nervous flyer, to trust them with this kind of technology
Boeing has experience building aircraft with foldable wings for decades. Folding wings have been around since before World War II. The F-18 that Boeing produces for the military has them as well. I'm also positive that the airplane can still fly just fine if one of them were to collapse. So I wouldn't be too worried :)
@@fitycalibre7555 Yeah back in the 1990s Boeing was going to make a Boeing 777-200 with folded wings for American Airlines so that the aircraft could fit in small terminal areas but later cancelled it because it wasn't really doing anything. They were planning to make the folded wings it the first phase of the aircraft design. 777X expands upon that significantly with 11ft long folding wing tips
It looks like a giant glider with giant engines
Send these to india immediately, we need them 😢
I HOPE THAT NO EMPLOYEE FORGOT TO TIGHTEN THE BOLTS. . right.
Nice to hear that @mentourpilot is mentioned.
Tim Clark criticizing Boeing is misplaced; he should have pressured the FAA.
For those accusing Boeing of still rushing the 777x, that is a paradoxical accusation to make given the delays
There's the old saying "more speed, less haste". Boeing has been hasty in the development of the 777x, which has resulted in it being less speedy to the market.
@@th8257 Was Boeing rushing the 777x in the past? Sure. But that does not mean they are rushing now
@@Blank00 that's why I said "has been" rather than 'is being".
It has winglets right now
Me: *dies*
Boeing the next day: *the B777X enters service*
Air India would actually be the 9th customer for the 777X, not 8th.
What is the point
Spend as much time as it takes so we don't have another 737 Max incident.
not $7m denied, just postponed
I think if the 777X program will ever make it to the market, it will be outdated. Unfortunately. It should have materialized 10 years ago.
With the Boeing mindset at that time, be glad it didn't.
It should be a 747-8
Why hasn’t American, Delta, or United Airlines ordered the 777X?
Because American and United have pretty new 777-300ER that don't need replacement in the next 10 years and Delta doesn't use planes that large.
it'll be all champagne and canapes when its flying and he'll get a bigger bonus. I suspect the plane can fly now but the supply chain is not secure to facilitate a production run.
The 777 is the best selling wide body of all time. Can we cut this company some slack? You had the pandemic etc.. Once this plane hits the tarmac they won’t be able to make enough to meet demand. The longest wide body with the most powerful fuel efficient engines in dans le monde
50% off for me yes
Shout out to @mentourpilot. Very nice.
Did they mention them in this video?
How they decide their bonus is entirely their own internal matter and it would be more to do with their revenue. Not really something for us to discuss in public. We don’t discuss how much bonus you guys get at Simple Flying. The video is great on the 777X related news.
Sure, what could possibly go wrong with giving a CEO a bonus for hurrying a new aircraft into service? Nothing to see here...
The program is like a penguin. Has wings but can't fly
Fuck I thought he was going to say ..We don’t have diabetes yet.
The Boom Overture will catch up soon!
Covid save 777x😊
I don't see this aircraft coming any time soon.
neither the XLR but the 777x will be ready when XLR will be for sure
@nickolliver3021 you had to mention Airbus, huh?
@@wadehiggins1114 it's what's happening wade. Wake up!
I wish the FAA was a tough as the EU! The max should have been scrapped.
I’m worried about that 777/F cargo door opening like that. Reminds me of MD-11 disaster design
It's been operating for years and they have had no issues with it
In all bureaucracies, the process is the punishment. Bureaucracies cannot be embarrassed and the FAA was embarrassed by the 737 MAX debacle; therefore, the punishment.
"the process is the punishment" - pretty sure the 347 people who died in the MAX crashes also felt pretty punished....
He don't care about that bonus he is already worth over $300 Million
Mentour Pilot is cool I like both channels
Maybe they could give the CEO of Boeing a bonus for going to get an engineering degree? I'm sure that accounting degree is coming in very useful in the factory...
why bonus for ceo what about compensation for 737 max victims because boeing cutting corners!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Boeing is paying its CEO millions of dollars, but when it comes to union workers' pay, they make a U turn. If a worker joins boeing and stays in the same grade job, he/she gets top pay after 6 years (12 progressions) , and if that worker moves to a higher grade job within first 6 years, their progression starts all over again which is 0. That's how they make the workers suffer, and yet Dave Calhoun and Stanley Deal make millions.
What has Elon Musk got to do with the B777?! 😉
watch him claim the letter X and sue Boeing :D
I think that
The -9 will do good because the A350-1000 cannot match both passenger and cargo capacity. desipte the weight penalty
The -8 will fail because there is the A350-1000 as the -8 is relatively too heavy
The -10, if it launches, will be a hot seller for not-ultra-long-haul flights.
Disagree sharply. Unless pilottraining for the 777x is as easy as the conversion between Airbus-types, I think pilots prefer to be trained for Airbusmodels where different typeratings require only 1 to 6 days of training, instead of weeks between diverse Boeingtypes.
The 777-8 is a waste of time. Airlines either want capacity for thick routes or they want range for long and thin ones. Generally they don't need both except for a few routes that aren't worth a dedicated variant.
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Instead, Boeing should revise the 787-8 that nobody's buying anymore and give it another 1500nm of range for a total of 8800nm. This can be done by upping maximum takeoff weight 27 tons to equal that of the 787-9 and -10 using the same wing box, tail and gear as these variants instead of the -8's less optimal, earlier, design. 1500nm is about right with 27 tons of extra fuel.
Every Boeing should be required to go through at least a decade of testing to be sure Boeing isn't going to murder anyone else.
the plane maker has been busy hiding deadly problems...
what deadly problems have been hidden then?
@@nickolliver3021 We don't know. They've been hidden.
@@phildane7411 what has been hidden? What are you expecting to be hidden? I wasn't asking you anyway
It should be noted that not a single US carrier has opted for the 777X. This delay could be nothing more than internal political strife in the US. Just something else to chew over.
Boeing is having issues that, at root, is because it is no longer a company run by engineers like it was prior to 1995.
They've been more worried about their ESG & DEI policies than building quality aircraft. Hire the best on merit, get rid of your ESG & DEI programs and get this freaking airplane in the hands of customers. Meanwhile, by the time this thing gets into the airlines, Airbus will have delivered many, many, many A350's. Airbus is taking huge market share from Boeing. That will take years to recover from at this pace.
You are an idiot. I have worked with fantastic men and women engineers over my 35 year career at Boeing Commercial from different companies and backgrounds. I count engineering friends that were born and trained in Japan, UK, Italy, Germany, Scotland, Turkey, China, Spain, Israel, Cote d'Ivoire, Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Mozambique, Haiti, Iraq, Iran, Australia, and New Zealand, and I'm probably missing a few here. And I really have seen no difference between men and women engineers that I have worked side-by-side with, have worked for me, or who I have reported to. Boeing's problems are 100% tied to poor executive decisions like an unworkable 787 schedule, abysmal supplier management, playing politics with safety, and a bit of bad luck.
All bonus should be cancelled at Boeing. Work has been shoddy at best
Would of been quicker for Boeing to develop a b brand new aircraft rather than a rehash of a old model, after the 737 Max fiasco you would of thought Boeing would of learnt it's lesson.
Boeing is behind with the 777X. Fact not a feeling. Can't change that.
By the time first deliveries start (tentatively in 2025), those GE engines you love to emphasize in the video are at least half a technology generation behind, depending on how fast Rolls-Royce works. Boeing would do better pressing newer engine technology to power this overly heavy structure NOW (as compared to A350-1k or the A350neo already being discussed) also perhaps investing into bringing down structural weight NOW instead of later in its production life. Prices for every new technology item are going to rise. By not having brought the X out on its original timeline I suspect you'll have the MD-11 debacle all over with countless "Performance Improvement Packages" still not leading to all the hopes the manufacturer and Airlines are placing into it. (For crying out loud you took over soooo many McDonnell-Douglas Team members!!! - you should know better!)
Engine technology advances and structural basic wight vs. payload weight efficiency killed prospective late customers for the A380 down to very few specialized applications (ANA's 3 turtles!) and EK's pleading the 380neo leads in the wrong direction... The World, not just EK will need more like an A380NG-neo by 2030... Thanks Mr. Clark for continuing to pursue the issue! Otherwise the 777X is just the "biggest we have"... and not the "quantum leap" suggested to the public...
Airports will become much more slot constrained by the end of the 2020s and it doesn't look like there is a "new Heathrow" even in discussion anywhere in Europe, much less in the USA. All NIMBY - "not in my back yard". Yet we all want (need) state of the art airport infrastructure - is having countless specialized airports (LHR/LGW/LCY/STN/LTN etc. or JFK/LGA/EWR/TEB/FRG/ISP/HVN et al conducive to NIMBY - I bet not!) DWC is prob the largest future-oriented capacity airport in the foreseeable future. I wonder if it will replace DXB or just "enhance"... Sad to consider ATL falling behind on a worldwide scale in that they are still not considering joining an A380 grade infrastructure.
It is symptomatic of our time (the "Zeitgeist") that every individual has to work harder than in the 1960s/1970s "boom times" yet everything else is moving slower (little road construction, crumbling infrastructure, speed limits, little wage growth despite ongoing productivity gains!) and we "trip over the pennies to miss the dollars" - it's a cultural thing - work 'til you drop out of frustration or for health issues. "Socialism" being the hate word in North America. Little health insurance (what you can buy misses the mark completely) and no personal time (vacation) - in Europe things are a little different.
Cost control is not the only gauge for progress. Real innovation thrives when cost control is temporarily a second consideration - you tweak for efficiency as something new matures once it's on line.
There are too few visionaries in the current era (maybe Elon Musk?) - Boeing certainly isn't by re-hashing "proven designs" simply for "shareholder value". You also cannot create "excitement" without defining a new Goal - maybe on a national level. White House leaders failed here.
Industries need to re-think their approach to "continuous growth aka planned obsolescence" and tolerance to competition. Competition exposes "the right way" and bribing Governments just makes this realization take longer.
Yeah, depending on how fast RR works. Considering GE's been delivering various upgrades to the GEnx over the years, it won't be surprising in the least if they deliver further upgrades to the GE9X. RR, meanwhile, hasn't yet managed to find any solid application of their latest technology, and they'll probably end up having to play catch-up with GE's advances.
Shame on Boeing's CEO personal bonus. Putting himself first is a detrimental to the company. He is focused on himself rather than on Boeing, the company. No wonder Boeing had been in trouble for so long.
The CEO does not decide their own salary, the board of directors does.
Smell like Airbus paying people off. Investigate and follow the money at Airbus.
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By the time this aircraft actually flies (if) the technology will be obsolete and Airbus will have launched a completely new best seller
Too many hundreds of victims, 737 Max should be ditched in favor of a more, hopefully, reliable 777X
At this point, its a joke 😂
I'm predicting the passenger version of the 777-8 will never be built. Boeing will produce a 777-8F or they will lose more customers to the Airbus a350-900F,
I predicted that 3 years ago. It is obsolete on paper against a 26 Tonne lighter A350-1000. No amount of extra cargo or passengers over the A350-1000 can make up for being 26 Tonnes heavier.
When a 9min video could of been 2 min but filled with stupid fluff verbiage like “GE, also know as General Electric” really…? Is this necessary to clarify at every juncture just to pad seconds
I question whether the bloated bureaucracy we call the FAA is working hard enough to get these certifications done. For instance the 737 MAX is awaiting paperwork competition which won’t be done till 2024. Do they lack manpower or knowledge? It could be Boeing’s fault too but the process seems to be going much slower than expected.
There will never be a 777-X delivered, I bet.
The incoming B777 is already a commercial failure. Small amount of forward sales compared to the cost of development. And the reason for the delays are outright scary: structural failures, engine failures: you name it. The A350 is walking away with orders and the B777 will be almost a generation older by the time it eventually comes out, Airbus already having moved on.
"The incoming B777 is already a commercial failure?" You don't know what the total number built will be for the life of this aircraft. Now...if you really want to talk about commercial failures....take a look at the Airbus A380. Airbus said the absolute break-even point for profits on that aircraft was 420 aircraft. They never came close to that number building only 251 aircraft before shutting down.