It’s a wrap ft. Johan Bruyneel | Tour De France 2024 Stage 21 | THEMOVE
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- A historic Tour de France with many great story lines: 3rd win for Pogacar, Eritrean rider, Girmay, wins three stages, Equador with first polka dot jersey with Carapaz and numerous climbing records surpassed.
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Love how British commentator Carleton Kirby opened by saying "Welcome to Monaco, a sunny place for shady people". Brilliant.
Love the understatement the Brits use in their language. 😂
It’s so beautiful tho
in most cases whether old money or new...often comes from shady dealings/connections. In many instances people don't make it to the top without crushing others.
including the cyclists
@@fanda6122 Yawn.
Petition for you guys and Johanne to cover the Vuelta with daily shows, we promise to keep the views up 😉
All the riders were amazing. So many great stories from this years Tour de France…. A historic Giro/Tour double, first African green jersey, historic 35 wins, retirements, a comeback, first Ecuadorian jersey winner… it’s great!
We have witnessed history
The Tour de France 2024 has come to an end. Thanks very much to Lance, George,JB and Johan for the daily updates. Cheers mate's. You guys take care. 👍👍👍👍♥️♥️♥️♥️
Yeah what great shows. From the UK it's great we can get up and watch the shows in the morning then only a short break before the next stage starts.
The performance of Vingegaard Can not be celebrated enough.. He was near death three months ago. 12 days just laying in a sickbed.. and now he is second in the tour only bested by inhuman Pogacar. People really need to let that sink in.. what a Heroic performance.
@@stephanrasmussen1894 Nobody will remember. The winner takes it all.
@@Momastaro their rivalry is what makes the race exciting the last many years. People remember.
@Ibrakadibra edgy
Stop saying he was on a death bed. He would have never been allowed to ride the Tour. Amazing performance by him even by his own admission. True champ and fighter, but no way he was on the death's door a couple of months before and then finishing second (amazing performance), but let's get real..
@@majkoldzekson he literally thought he was gonna die.. and he promised to stop cycling if he survived.. he has Said this in interviews.. and he is NOT a guy for hyperbole.. did you see the crash? The injuries? He was treated in a helicopter in High altitude because they were afraid the other lunge would also collapse if they descended.. People die in High speed crashes in this sport. Happened very recently in tour of Austria.
Fantastic commentary about this Tour by Johan and JB. (and that’s it!)
Right comment under the wrong podcast 😅
I have been a fan of this show since the Gulf Stream and Mellow Johnie’s. This has been must watch UA-cam for years now.
Thanks for the great post stage/race coverage and download throughout this really exciting Tour! Both The Move and JB2 were always a highlight for me everyday since no one in the family or close friends are into bike racing - so I needed you all to bring me back down to earth and give me my fill of race talk. Cya next year!
Jonas was visibly uncomfortable on his bike today in the TT, rocking and moving while Pogacar was like cast in concrete. Compare the TT last year, Jonas locked in his aerodynamic position, Pogacar struggling to keep his position. 2025 will hopefully be on a level playing field for both.
From my experience, looked like saddle sore issues on his left side.
Pogi just on another level. Jonas so exhausted just holding a tight position under huge power was difficult
@@cyclepowered8799 agreed. Pulling his knees both out looked more position issues. Probably hasn't had enough time to dial it right in. Or also the body just fatiguing to hold that position.
It was obvious pog knew every inch of those roads his road position was perfect the whole way
Last year, Jonas had the advantage of recon, while this year Pog had it.
Tadej Pogacar at the winner’s press conference: “There will always be doubts, for sure, because cycling was so much damaged in the past, before my time. In any sport, in any situation of life, if somebody is winning there’s always jealousy, there’s always haters. If you don’t have haters, then you’re not succeeding. There will always be someone who talks bad about someone." ... Lance and George, just sit back and think about what Tadej said, after backlashing him so many times.
They're just jealous that a great athlete can perform better than the greatest cheat.
It's also important to note what Johannessen said after one of the stages: how he wants to hate Jonas and Tadej but can't because they're such good guys and make cycling fun to watch. As far as I know, Lance was widely despised by most of the peloton in his time.
Even Jonas has broke the record of "sheer determination". Salute to Jonas for his remarkable courage and mental toughness, considering what he has gone through! He is truly special, the real champ to me.
Agreed. Glad he is back to form and we didn't loose a great rider to a crash...but equally glad he wasn't gifted anything. Next year is going to be epic
Motocross guys do more than Jonas in a shorter amount of time . Great comeback for sure , but no miracle
@@jimsteinway695 well its a different discipline, 'can't compare that buddy... and yes its no miracle. its a true grit from a determined beast. Peace
@@jimsteinway695 You're talking to roadies. Don't forget that. 😂
Thanks to you All For a great show again this year❤🇩🇰.its a pleasure to see The show and i look forward to the vuelta now.congrats to pogi this Year from Denmark 🇩🇰.pogi was Best This year and he did deserve ❤.the high For my tour was Mark record and i will rember him always as a great rider.thanks for many Great years mark.as a cycling fan this channel is amasing ❤.wait 3 years and rember The name Albert Philipsen.he wins all on a bike.
Awesome thanks guys! Gosh was great tuning in everyday to hear your thoughts and opinions. Great show man!
Thanks for the coverage guys- I'll miss the daily updates. Hope y'all will cover the Vuelta!
I Hope to ❤
The withdrawals begin. :) WEDŪ team, you’re the best. Love you guys. T h a n k y o u for another awesome Tour! So fun, and always learn so much. ღ
I get withdrawals too. After the Olympics football and the tour
@@jimsteinway695:)!
Thanks guys, your shows were great for this Tour and so was the Tour.
Hincapie na aparatima, lets go.
Can't believe it's over all ready. First TDF in four years have not watched with Mom. RIP Mom.
Sorry for your loss
I'm so sorry for your loss 🕊
@@vickybramlett3774 Thanks. Spent last few years splitting the week with sibling caring for her, she could not do much, so we watched lot's of sports, which was a twist for her, she loved it, and for some reason the TDF became the focal point of the summers. She was from Slovene background, so Primoz and Tadej where her favorites. She loved seeing France as well.
@@koyaanisrider6943 Thanks much. Suffering no more. Hard to believe she got into watching sports in the last few years. Glad, we had fun watching.
I feel your pain... first one without my Dad. Sending much love.
I had fun watching you guys again this year. I can't believe it's over already. Feels like the summer is gone.
We going miss u .❤ from Eritrea....
Hopefully they will come to visit Eritrea🇪🇷 soon!
@@favfor4455 I hope so..Tnx...
Was in my Yellow Jersey Today 😁🖖🇬🇧 Respect Pogi, We Witnessed Greatness.
The Move makes the tour so much more fun! Thanks fellas!
@tomselek1000
Try Chris Horner Butterfly Effect Beyond the Coverage
Really enjoyed this seasons shows. Thanks for all the hard work. ❤
Thanks guys for past 3 weeks always the best podcast for after race ti watch , thank you guys from uk
I have been listen to the Podcast since Day 1, I typically listen on my way home from work. This is actually the first time that I've actually WATCHED it! Thanks for covering another Epic Tour de France! You guys do an amazing job, and I truly enjoy listening each day! Thanks again!! 😎🏆🥇🚵
Tadej should go for the Vuelta. Plenty of other Worlds/Olympics to frost the cake later.
Amazing coverage as always boys! See you next year! Chapeau !
Jorgenson lives in Nice. That's why he was 4th. All his time was made on the descent.
UAE found the key to the weaknesses of Pogacar: fueling, cooling and recovery. Pogacar lost the 2 Tours because of bad days, not because of his capacity, and those bad days were due to bad fueling and overheating. His recovery was not optimal either, now that UAE has invested in solving these problems, Pogacar will be hard to beat for the next 5 years, at least
I don't get why everyone now believes that this year's winner will be unbeatable, same like last year when everyone was thinking Jonas was too good in a 3-week race and wondered if Tadej would ever win the Tour again. For sure next year the competition will improve and it can go either ways.
He and teams brain is more switched this year. 2023 he had that injury to deal with and 2022 he raced like an amateur.
Also 2022 JV had a way better team high level primos high level Wout
You’re so naive and gullible 💉💉💉
As Jonas learned, it only takes one bad turn and crash to mess things up…I hope he gets to race on his own terms for a long time
OK, let's see what doped Armstrong and cry baby Hincapie have to say about Tadej Pogacar this time around. They've been pounding down and "spitting" on Tadej from day one. All the European podcasts were amazed by Pogacars performance...also nice words for Jonas and Remco....except WEDU - THE MOVE...especially Amrmstrong and cry baby Hincapie. I must say that Johan Bruyneel and JB were great. Johan is my no.1 analyst and he knows so much about professional cycling. I don't know why he still keeps in the company of two assholes who are talking about politics in the sports of cycling instead of real racing...racing with your heart and soul and just wanting to be the best. We are in the year 2024, with new and young generations of cyclists, who think differently, race hard and mostly respect each other. Isn't that what sports is supposed to be about? Just asking.
well said👍
We’ll see you in 10 years. LOL.
Thank you so much Lance, George, JB, Sir Bradley and the WEDU team! I'd watch your show after each stage, love it. Here come the withdrawals.....see you at La Tour Femmes!!!
Thanks for another Tour, guys! I listened to more of The Move and JB2 than actual coverage due to time constraints😊
I’d love to see Tadej be the first to do the Grand Tour Triple and go win the Vuelta.
The UAE team boss has confirmed that Tadej will not be doing La Vuelta this year..
He'd undoubtedly win, seeing as he has no competition. But then, that might raise just a little too much scrutiny...
At least get the Roche triple. Worlds now. Vuelta isn’t gonna happen.
And why is he not doing the Vuelta🤔….he should be able to win that one with one leg. Very very strange
Whoever does it in heavily doped up. It's not physically humanly possible.
Welp....
There have been some astronomical improvements in cycle training since the Hautacam days.
Insane.
Can we get some of those advancements into the fight against cancer and other serious health ailments?
That would be tremendous.
Tadej is a specimen.
I thought Van Der Poel was the dude... TP is that dude.
Modern day Merckx
i think lance still owns that climb? watched it a number of times.
You guys are the best!!! Thanks for another good year of Tour shows!!!!!
Another killer tour! I really enjoy The Move. Please keep up the good work.
Thank you gentlemen.
Thanks guys! It's been a great tour. See you during the Olympics
Please, please, please have Johan on the main show full-time next year. You guys say it all of the time, he is one of the most knowledgable minds in cycling and as such, the interactions w/ Lance and George are amazing. With all due respect, having Johan alone on a show w/ JB is like Lance riding the Tour on a Huffy.
Ventum's frontman Diaa Nour is a legit dude! Thanks for making this years tour trivia fun See you in 2025!
nah
God I love you guys! Seriously! Thank YOU!!!
Great tour coverage, thanks!
Thanks guys. It's been a unique season!
Great show, thanks for the 3 weeks of coverage.
The JB2 podcast is even better.
@@patrickmestdagh5378 that show is more insightful. But this one is more amusing with the squabbling sometimes between lance and George.
Barely 2 min in and George starts in on Pogi. Come up for air George; there are smarter ways to express your bias. Jonas's crash, condition, and remarkable come-back gives you a well-packaged theme to repeatedly wax poetic about if you really need to distract from Pogi's win; I mean, it's perfectly natural (perhaps even warrented) and practically writes itself.
Yeah, and those boys in the booth couldn’t wank hard enough whenever crashendish name came up
Great show as always you guys do a great job. I followed wedu ever since the beginning and the very first ride with Lance in Texas we rode in a down pour. All the talk about the tour de France getting faster and guys getting stronger is so debatable , I say all this with the most respect for Johan. The first tour de France in I believe 1911 was over 3,500 miles ,now races are just barely over 2000 plus the riders back in the early years didn't have any support they had to bring their own food and mechanical issues were all done by themselves. The stages were also twice as long 200 mi a day and the roads were rough and gravel compared to what current riders ride on compared to the old beat up gravel roads early riders road on. In all honesty I think people should ask the question not could earlier tour de france riders compete with these new young guys but could these new young guys compete with the older riders in the 1900s. They were seriously strong mentally and physically they had no pampering and they cranked out more miles on tougher terrain and if you think about their times they were only maybe 9 mi 10 miles per hour slower than the current riders time averages with 14k bikes but when you take in consideration the terrain that they rode on the amount of miles they rode the pavement of the roads and having to fix everything themselves and not have great places to sleep and chefs to cook for them it seems to me it's all relative I almost honestly think earlier day riders would be much stronger and faster then some guys today even on the old bikes I don't personally get all the hype with the new bike technology the manufacturers keep coming up with. That's a whole other discussion and should be considered more further because there's many more crashes then ever in the last couple years with all the new disc brake and wheel technologies then in old days and even in lances days. All this technology and $14,000 bikes and if you look at the statistics most tour de Frances average speeds were faster then they are now in Lance's time even not even going back to 1912 except for jonas 2 years ago but there were a lot of downhill finishes so there's a lot of factors to consider in the fast average time of Jonas but I definitely wouldn't attribute it to the bike technology like the bike companies keep pushing to justify high prices. I love tech stuff but don't price the equipment so far out of reach that the average fan can't buy into the sport. I know Lance hates soccer but why do you think it's the biggest sport in the world, because all you need is a ball you can play iit anywhere in any country rich or poor.. bike companies should think about it if they want Americans to be competitive and for America to breed top cyclist to go over to Europe and kick butt.😊. www.quora.com/Could-Tour-de-France-winners-from-100-years-ago-compete-with-riders-today
Thanks for a fantastic season!
G.O. - 7:09 & 27:54
Egos of yesteryear.
i see you guys down here, I would be glad to have some autograph from you all... yallah "Habibi come to Dubai" please keep us posted...
We're excited to see you come to Eritrea.But the best visit would be after the Olympics Lance, King of Cycling
Thanks for 21 great shows
2024 Pogi is next level, nobody is close, not even 2023 Jonas. Massive kudos to all the podium guys.
Super happy for Jorg, hope that he continues to take another huge step next year. He will podium a GT someday.
Thank you for all your time and work on the show
Doesn't George know that Tadej and Remco only 1 yrs different? Tadej hasn't reached 27 yet. So just like Remco, Tadej can still improve. Which is scary. The problem with Remco, he is riding with what his power meter said. If you notice on the climb, he kept looking down. Every time he tried to follow Jonas or Tadej, he kept looking on his power meter. Jonas on the other hand, just push the pedal as hard as he can.
Tadej ha 25 anni❤
Pogacar decimated the TOUR this year after losing last year to Vingegaard ,l remember it well almost same dominance as POGACAR this year so maybe vengeance not greed for him . l win all you can cause you only live once and this tour will go down in history !!
All the records are being broken.. sorry .. but we've been here before.... lets be honest
That was a 'bat out of hell' descent by Pog. This despite him declaring in the previous stage's presser that he would take it more conservatively and avoid risks. Frankly, I was more nervous watching him than probably Pog himself.
Overall, it has been a really good tour, even though the time differences may not indicate it. Pog regaining the crown he could not get his hands on the last two years and becoming the undisputed No 1 again, Jonas literally rising from the ashes and showing the biggest balls, Remco for proving that he can compete even on the longest and steepest climbs as well as all other support riders and staff, fans and viewers who make the Tour probably the third greatest sporting event on Earth after the Olympics and football World Cup. Without this kind of top level rivalry, cycling would be a boring sport. If it were not for Jonas, we would be talking about Pog as already being a 5 time Tour winner, which would certainly be extraordinary, but not very exciting.
Thanks for the great coverage of all the stages, analysis and opinions (not all of which I agreed with, but that's ok).
After hearing Lance and George on Friday, I thought I'd see them giving out participation medals to the riders as they finished the TT.
I was on the Champs-Elysee in 1999 for Lance's first win.
Most insightful coverage.
What a fantastic TT, it was amazing to see the Big 3 give everything they had left in their legs, they are the real gladiators of modern bike racing, chapeau to all gladiators. 👋👌🤛
This is the essence of racing, to use your passion to give your best. Bike racing gladiators allow their passion to take over them, but at the same time keep their stature under control. In this way, they can achieve a higher level of awareness and sharp focus, which ensures that they can achieve top results without losing control of their bike. It is very dangerous to go full throttle without first establishing a sharp focus, and without passion it simply cannot be achieved at the highest level. It's the same with car racing, the more the speed increases, the greater the attention and focus is, until you reach a point where psycho-dynamics awakens fears and sets a limit up to which the individual feels safe. But the best ones know how to go beyond this limit and at the same time maintain a sense of control and safety over the vehicle. This jump feels like an adrenaline jump into a new level of focused state of attention. I believe cyclists experience something similar in breakneck descents and again, you need a passion for this state of consciousness, because higher level of consciousness needs more energy and passion is pure energy.
It was a fantastic TDF, it will be hard to go over next year, but whatever next TDF will offer, the race is simply bigger than anything!
Lance is my idol.
He shows that whatever you can do, even cheating or abusing enhancing drugs, you will get no responsabilities about that.
This piece of shit has still some tribune, incredible.
Sir Bradley with the gang during the women’s tour! Vite, Vite!!
Enjoyed it guys!
Jonas and Remco looked depleted at the finish of the TT. Pogi looked like he was ready to party. Not since Lance have we seen such a dominating performance.
Visma will follow and imitate on the details. George speaks the truth on Remco
Mikel Landa was a huge hire for Quick Step
Thanks guys, enjoyed the shows, my love hate relationship continues with Lance 😂…please do the Vuelta as well
Incredibile!! Proud of Tadej!!
Tadej is "the DOMINATOR" an unapologetic racer like it should be.
Excuse me, he was destroyed last year by over 7 min. Get real
@@Rundismutti2001 this is today not last year. Last year Jonas dominated. Sure he was seriously injured. Sure he came back valiantly to put in better performances but guess who dominated the last two tour's. Wakeup
Bradley Wiggins was the best addition to this show. Understated brit humour alongside U.S brashness; a perfect combination.
Jersey winners from 3 different continents. 3 new countries.
Some calls Pogacar the cannibal, but no Merckx is the cannibal. Pogacar is "the Vampyre", because he sucks the lifeblood out of the race and he sucks the hope out of his opponents, it's just... He's a Vampyre!
Love you guys 🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷
Good lord, I skipped though 3/4 of the show to get through the sponsored content to listen to your discussion on the race.
ha!!! i did Haines City same year! Lance was done and getting driven back to airport when i rolled in to T2
I'll make a prediction... Vingegaard Will never be the same... He looked like a dead man on a bike. To support my statement.. 10mins after a stage... Pogi and Remco looked fine.. vingegaard not. What Visma did to him is basicly a crime
Totally agrees
He should've rode the vuelta without the tour
💚💚💚🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷🇪🇷👑🙏bini bini ERITRA .
I'm Belgian and was thrilled by the 3 wins of Philipsen. But I enjoyed the wins and green jersey of Bini. Hopefully, cycling will gain some enthousiasm in Africa. World championchips in Rwanda will also be an important step in increasing popularity.
If you waiting for them to talk about Jonas Vingegaard they never give him the credit for his great performance in this last episode.
I agree, Wiggins should get a job again doing commentating on the motorcycle during races, he was great at that
Is there a youtube clip where Lance shares his thoughts on if this was achieved naturally? I seriously cannot believe that.
Poor George, I have never seen him so sad, his loverboys being beaten by a rider he hates. At least Lance has no emotions and doesn't really care. He is only here to read the ads, which are 40% of the videos.
Why you write noncence
Live strong
If Sepp Kuss had ridden could we have seen two Americans in top 10 at this tour?
I'd like to see Wiggins start his own podcast, covering the Vuelta would be a good place to start.
Seems like a no-brainer for him. It would be an instant success if he chose to do it.
@@rlm4471 I think so. He's in a financial hole, maybe it would be a way out.
Tadej Pogačar watch, a Richard Mille 67-02 weighs just 32 grams
Damn, I thought this was the year for a ventum bike! And then I heard 15,000 names. See ya next year
Goataçar 🐐
EPOgacar
Easy guys ...there is only 1 GOAT and that's Eddy Merckx. But sure, Tadej is caching up.
George i hope you get over this and get a bit more objective next TDF. But enjoyed this show for a last month even tho you underestimated king pogi from the start. Where is the “Jonas will be the best in third week” talk now?
Objective=agree with my own point of view?
It’s a podcast
It’s opinions.
Quit whining.
@@JoeBoyle-pe5mwokay but at some point it’s clear he’s just hating on pog for no reason lol
So much criticism from you all to TP new era and you were not ready for it.
New era?😂
The era is gonna stop very early!!! 😂😂😂
George’s and Sir Bradley’s comment about Jonas beating Pogi if he was 100% aged like buying something on Wish. 😅 Good shows, all good The Move ✌️
it hasn't aged, because Jonas is not yet 100% yet lol you have to wait until he is 100% to see what happens.
@@lulua1698 you might be right. However, the gap is so big right now that one wonders if even when Jonas gets back to 100%, he could outrun Pogi. Pogacar’s condition is hardly a constant. I believe there’s been a noticeable improvement, even considering he was that one who wasn’t at his 100% a year ago (nor his team was as strong as Jumbo’s either). Who knows…let’s hope both of them get to next year’s TDF at 100% and with comparatively strong teams (which is another very important factor).
If they are similar level next year Pogacar would lose because his tactics suck
Awesome show great discussion and insight of tour 👍
Another sad show … let’s hope LA and George mange to recover after this … talking about anything but the next goat … the pain is real
👋
@@zikaperic2133 inferiority complex in overdrive for Lance
@@J-cz7yv 7 v 3. I don’t think so.
@@paddyotoole2058how many giro? LbL? Lombardia? Flanders?
More like 3 vs 0
At the end of last years tour - Pogacar lost by 7 1/2 Minutes to Jonas and the question was if he would ever win another one. So now, a year later, he wins by 6 1/2 minutes. If not for Jonas crash and injuries I believe we would be having a different conversation following this tour. I think we all have a very short memory on what the tour dominance was last year by Visma - and then add Sepp Kuss to the conversation and I think next years tour should be something special. The tour is never as enjoyable to follow if one rider is heads and shoulders above the others. Plus, I wonder if Tadej was trying to win by a greater margin than what he lost by last year - so maybe that was part of his motivation to attack on stages where it didn't seem to make sense.
You could see from the 1st week Tadej had it. I thought it would be around 7:30 margin to the 2nd place finisher. Lance like dominance. A GOAT has entered the realm of GOATS.
Until next year!
Maybe Jones today got his third tdf in a row 😂 time will tell!
Who is the guy in the middle ? sorry but my first time watching Danish TV2 talked about this podcast in the live TDF (not in a negative way) so i had to see whats its about :)
Question for Lance, if it isn't too late 😂
Why in the old days, until 2005 if i'm not wrong, you have been using two types of shifters? The left one in case, it was just a weight thing? Or ?