#1 Tip For Massive Topspin (Tennis Forehand Technique)
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#1 Tip For More Topspin (Tennis Forehand Technique)
1. Tilt your strings down prior to hitting
2. Swing up fast and spin the ball with confidence
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You got this!
For beginners, don't do this immediately, gradually do this until your wrists get stronger for the full extension of the wrist. Don't force it, don't hurt yourself like i did. 👍
Once you’re ready, you’ll be playing the REAL tennis
I have been playing for 7 years And at june I will be 12
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Gosh this sport has evolved so much since I first learned to play as a freshman in high school in 1995. Amazing that Roger is the same age as me but he managed to keep his game modern. But then again Roger has always been eons ahead of his time so maybe it's just that the rest of the tennis world is now catching up.
I agree. I’m 42 and I can’t believe he’s been able to stop at the top of the game for so long. Thanks for the comment!!
@@2MinuteTennis same for Rafa as well
Many thanks from a Roger fan!!!
I'm a golfer picking up tennis and it's remarkable how similar this technique looks in slow motion to a pro golfer creating lag in the down swing. makes way more sense seeing this action in slo-mo. Thank you!
Happy to help you Ryan!
"You got this" Ryan.... You are a good coach. Greetings from Greece 😊
Haha thank you Gabriel!!
Thanks Ryan. The first two forehands are also quite different. See how he bends he knees on the first to crouch down to get that lower starting point and rising the racquet from there. On the second, he moves to the left and is quite upright.
Best forehand top spin video I have seen. This changed my world. Thanks!
So glad to hear that Jason!
The reasoning you provide is why i watch your videos again and again.
I've watched a million videos and have never seen that illustrated before. Brilliant.
Great video as usual.
Just want to say this should come naturally after putting the racket facing the ground.
Then the body will do the rest.
But with high balls it's completely different.
It is important not to get to the position by forcing the wrist. This position is the result of what you do with your legs and hips. The wrist is relaxed. When you rotate your body explosively, the racquet will go to this position by inertia.
This was super useful thanks.
Keep up the good work.
This is the best video I have seen. Both technically for forehands as well as how to get max topspin
Love it Ryan! Great breakdown and analysis, as usual
Don’t feel bad repeating yourself. It is still as awesome to see every time!
Thanks so much Nabeen!!
Sometimes I pick up on something I missed or didn't sink in during the previous similar video/topic. The repeat topics have helped me. Plus we get to see slightly different techniques/styles of the pros. In this video a lower and powerful forehand is being pounded.
Exactly my thoughts. Blessed to have this channel
The best forehand topspin explanation ever. Thanks a lot 👌
💖This is really awesome video to explain about heavy topspin with detailed explanation about the topic. However, I have one question; Does he starts brushing the ball before contact or extend his follow through and then brushes up just like the wind shield wiper motion ?
Very clear and practical tip. Thanks a lot
Amazing tip. Checked a video of my stroke, and there it was: balancing the coin on the frame. Can’t wait to give this a try! Thanks
good close up shot with replays ... nice video work Ryan!
amazing video thank you so much
So glad you liked it!
Great motion .. yet how u you pin pointed to copy is lovely ..Keep it up Ryan .cheers !
Excellent video!! Thanks for sharing!
You explain things very well. Thank you
rack is not 90 degrees at contact.... it is at 95 to 100 at contact to brush up....?
It can be anywhere from 90-100. So you are correct.
How much this video help me! My god! Thanks a lot 🤩
So glad to hear that!!
Great tip! Man, this takes time! Wrist needs to be naturally relaxed to create this lag. I do it but only when m relaxed.
Excellent thank you Ryan
definitely going to show these videos to some of my teammates at ithaca, good stuff ryan hope all is well 🎾
Yooooo Deon! Dude thanks man! Appreciate the support. Send me an email. I’d love to keep in touch and here more about the team Ana school in general. ryan@2minutetennis.net
Beautiful tips. Thank you for sharing it coach.🌞🌛🙏
Thanks so much after learning the technique I won my first tournament on my club
Looks like he pulls the left elbow back to help get the stretch and then full and fast shoulder rotation. Your thoughts?
Actually insisting on a racquet face down by itself as a prerequisite for topspin has no basis in biomechanics. It’s always having a low to high racquet head path before contact that gives topspin.
Once that is understood, the more racquet head momentum the more spin.
What you should be thinking is skipping a pebble on water AND have the butt cap pointed not just at the ball but pointed UPWARDS at the ball.
Thank you for being the only person to realize that his advice is pretty much miss the point. It's not the racquet's face that's important, it's the butt cap direction. For eastern forehand grip, you either want to land the ball into the sky or to break your wrist to have the racquet's facing downward like what he recommended at the end of the video
Not sure I agree that the solution to the average club players forehand is to copy the advanced ATP forehand. The ATP forehand needs much better timing and skill to work otherwise copying it may lead to inconsistency. The fact that the racket face has to through a 90 degree shift in a millisecond and end up at the correct angle is also a disadvantage since the timing has to be excellent. I would think this is the last bit of technique that may be taught to young advanced players that don't have other technical problems.
I find my racquet face isn't as closed as the video since I'm using an Eastern FH grip. Is that normal?
Federer, dimitrov, delpotro all eastern and all close around 45 degrees as well. Keep working on it. You got this!
this makes a lot of sense, I just learned how to bowl with a power position to create a shit ton of revolution, this is almost the same
REAL DEAL , WHAT A DIFFERENCE THE PRO SWING AND AMATEUR SWING LIKE ME. GOT TO MAKE PROPER CORRECTION ON RACKET HEAD . FACING DOWNWARD.
Except of course Tsitsipas has a very heavy forehand and usually doesn’t hit that position. It is a good cue, because most amateurs and those of us who learned old school forehands tend to supinate/externally rotate before completing the takeback. However, topspin comes from the combination of low to high swing path and racquet face angle at contact and one can generate big time topspin without hitting that position. Once again, it is a good cue, but I think the emphasis needs to be on reducing early supination/external rotation.
thanks for the comment Mark
Mark are you saying tsitsipas doesn’t close his racket face on his forehand? Can you elaborate what you mean by “usually”?
@@2MinuteTennis He closes it about 15 or so degrees. He actually has it at about 0 degrees during the takeback but does close it a bit at the end of racquet drop. He has an Eastern grip, albeit a strong one, so the racquet face is going to be more open unless one does an extreme low racquet drop like Federer does most of the time. Like all of us it varies depending on the height of the ball. One tends to close the face more on low balls.
@@marktace1 thanks for clarifying.
I need to watch the video on loop
Nice vídeo!!!
When in the preparation do you point the butt cap at the ball? I cant grasp this concept as I think I will hit the ball with the throat of the racket. Any tips or advice would be helpful. Thanks!
great one ! helps alot
Thank you very much
perfect! Thank you!
left hand sprad open on purpose so the wrist of the right hand will relaxed to create more racket speech ?
I got the racquet he's using (head gravity pro) and I find that this technique is much easier and more effective to do with it.
I knew it’s the racket 😁
Hello Ryan christos from greece.as i study the forehand motion i think the free hand is very important.as long as the free hand goes outwards automatically the racket goes into lag position.tell me your opinion if you want about this.thanks ryan again and greetings from greece!!!
If I had to create a mental image is it possible to say that I should hit the ball with the edge of the racket? a bit like it happens in the serve immediately before the pronation?
Good action.
Great Vídeo!!! 👏👏👏
Technically I am using the semi western forehand grip, but I am feeling I am not getting a solid enough contact with the ball...do you recommend I adjust the grip?
Thanks Ryan how about the high ball. Is the racket face is face still facing down with the high balls ?
The higher the contact the less you’ll close the face.
@@2MinuteTennis Thanks a lot. ^^
thank you
So since this is very important to get tour timing right to achieve this swing path, is the mass of the racquet a big factor. I changed my racquet to the new Babolat Rafa Origin with a swingweight of 354grams and oh boy i can only achive a fraction of topspin i was able to do with my previous racquet which had a 325grams swingweight
You should not consciously tilt your string down. It should be a natural by product of the swing forward with wrist lag
Thx ❤
Does the same logic apply to the backhand?? Facing the racquet down first?
I was checking out the slingbag ball machine you recommend, it says it can launch balls up to 45 Mph. I realized I have no concept of how fast that is... As a 3.0 player I assume this would be fast enough for now. But is there a point where I would improve and need a faster ball machine for my practices?
It will be fast enough no matter the level you play. Because you can place the ball machine anywhere on the court (including on your own side), you have very little time to react when it’s close to you. Trust me, it’s plenty fast enough. Thanks!! Def get it.
@@2MinuteTennis thats a good point, ok I'm convinced. Great channel by the way, I just found you guys and am loving the tennis tips. I think I saw an affiliate link somewhere for you guys for the slingbag but I can't find it now, can you drop it here so I can help you out? Thanks!
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Yes, the pace of play continues to go up as you improve and face better players. You should get a ball machine that shoots harder so you can keep up with the faster, quicker gameplay.
Good morning. And about the wrist? Won't be injured? Thanks
Most if not all amateur players don't do that because they don't have the mobility in there wrist to pull that off. What do you think?
As a coach for 24 years I’ve never come across a rec player who can’t close the face. Thanks!!
No entiendo el inglés pero buena explicación !!
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He has a great slap forehand
Yes he does!
Thanks so much for the comment. 😊👍🎾
2MinuteTennis what’s a slap forehand?
My wife has a good slap forehand!
@@cabforwardooo9983 i experienced this from here last night
This is confusing. Why does closing the face (partially closing or fully depending on swing style and grip) ensure a vertical face at contact? I am using an Eastern fh grip and was told that the grip you choose establishes your contact point. So define where your contact point is and try to consistently make contact at that distance out in front. That will ensure a vertical (or very slightly closed) face at contact regardless of closure or no closure(drop on edge) on back swing. Don't see how a closed face will ensure vertical face at contact... A closed face in backswing can help produce topspin. But that is a different issue.
Glad to clarify. The racket face “opens” as it gets to contact. That’s why his racket is nearly closed when the burr cap is pointing at the ball yet his shot goes over the net. Bc the racket squares up against the back of the ball. A large majority of rec players have their racket on edge in the back ( you could balance a coin of the frame). Since the racket “opens” on its way to contact that results in the face being open at contact. As a result, players will turn the racket to attempt to sow it at the last second to salvage their shots but that leads to being very inconsistent. Closing the face prior to contact and seining low to high transforms inconsistent rec forehands to dependable and consistent forehands. 🎾😊👍
The racket face does not open naturally as you swing forward, unless you're swinging your arm like a pendulum from the shoulder joint, kind of like bowling but with your elbow farther away from your torso. The FH swinging is more around the body than a pendulum motion. As your shoulder internally rotates, the racket face actually naturally closes.
The racket face stays that closed at the beginning of the forward swing because the contact point is low. When the contact point is higher, the racket face starts that closed but opens up via supination prior to swinging around.
There is so much confusion about how this is achieved though, and I can tell you that the arm is passive in this situation. All this is happening as a result of good base, using the ground....using the off-arm and torso/hip rotation to initiate the swing, the arm is basically like a roller coaster car. It's just along for the ride.
Thanks so much!!
Super, спасибо за видео, это то что мне нужно.🙏❤️🇷🇺
Got it! Hold that frying pan eggs out! Now if I could play half as relaxed and on the forefoot as Zverev.
Thanks so much Carnival!
Excellence slow mo…thanks
I do this but my ball is still going too high and deep. Any advice?
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But where's the top spin in his return? When the ball has top-spin it has a loopy path to the receiver with extra bounce. I don't see it here in the video.
step 1: be 1.98m tall
step 2: automatically hit every ball low to high
step 3: profit
Huh?
@@2MinuteTennis well, Zwerev might not be your average player with his height. he has probably a way better position to each ball he hits. a lot of those shots would be way closer to my shoulder height it i don't want to hit super early or stand 5m back. of course, if the ball comes like that to me it's a great way to conceptualize how to hit heavy top spins.
Ok thanks!
Head speed going up is what matters.
Why exactly does this work?
massive good
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Seems like the correct technique is THE EXACT OPPOSITE. Point your palm UP before you swing and then end up with your palm facing down.
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But what's the use of having a massive spin in the modern game?
you must be new...the modern game is all about massive monster spin..
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Thanks so much!!
so "Pat the dog" basically.
When you watch the Novak or Rafa forehand they don't do this. It's just a matter of preference.
Hmmmm I’m not following you. They don’t do what exactly. They don’t close their racket face when the butt cap is pointing at the ball? Not sure what you’re saying.
Of course they do... Watch their super slomo practice videos
But what IS topspin?!
When the ball is spinning forward over itself. It pulls the ball down into the court and is vital to consistency.
0:47 Such a stupid video, why to make sure string is pointing down. If you hold a semi western or western grip, with a lag, automatically the string goes down before hitting the ball.
Ok. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Once you have proper technique all of this happens intuitively. You'll be stressed trying to do all this manipulating mid-stroke.
Thanks for the comment!
I am noticing a pattern in your videos lately where you analyze a pro's stroke and point out details that are happening as a by product as must haves. Focus on the fundamentals otherwise you are unfortunately and maybe unintentionally doing more harm than good for recreational players (your video about opening up elbows on volleys seemed bit of a stretch as well). Topsin comes from accelerating during contact, how you do it with or without the close face, is not the only thing which is dictating that.
“Top spin comes from accelerating during contact” - as long as your racquet face is closed and trajectory is correct. You can achieve this by leg drive, getting under the ball etc etc but, simply by hitting hard will not create TS. I actually appreciate this coach “over analyzing” the technique simply bc, for having strong foundation you should have solid technique so that down the road, you could just focus on the game instead of having to relearn everything (while dealing with bad muscle memory) Unforced errors all come from junk technique; Obviously, you need to have proper contact point up front, followed by internal rotation etc etc
But: by closing the racquet face, you create consistency - in your technique.
Btw: anyone noticed the height of the contact point? It’s very low. I wonder what his FH looks like when he meets the ball higher off the ground...? Anyhow, my reply is “ALL IMO”. Thanks
Thanks for your thoughts!!
Hey thanks for the comments!
Well pointed. those are byproducts of fundamental things you can control. I'm pretty sure not even pros are thinking about where the racquet face is pointing. People should focus on other aspects as getting their positioning and timing right for instance.
Alok, are you arguing that players will be able to close their racket face without focusing on it? Closing the racket face, until it is committed to a players repertoire, doesn’t just happen.
Always feel like these videos are silly. Again and again, they're more easier said than done. Do most players have a feel for the game, or they actually think about this angle and that angle and where their pinky finger is pointing? This is why these videos never work for me. More "easier said than done" than anything else...
Based on your thinking I should stop making videos. Bc everything is easier said than done.
I dont see a massive top spin, its quite regular
It may look regular, but It’s absolutely massive compared to any player you have ever played against. Trust me.
This is one style. Every coach is teaching a cookie-cutter approach. Look at Johnny Mac. He still plays great tennis. Nearly every coach I know teaches a two-handed backhand. It’s ridiculous really.
Thanks for watching
Glad to help you!
What? Did you just say having your racquet on edge in the backswing leads to hitting out all the time and rolling over the ball consistently? Where did you get this conclusion from? Plenty of people including myself can have the racquet more on edge and hit topspin with control inside the court readily. Even Del Potro hits similar to that and not "pat the dog". Come on man, appreciate your vids but now you're reaching...
Does delpotro close his racket face?
Also, the is video has nothing to do with “pat the dog”.
@@2MinuteTennis It depends on situation and ball. Look at some footage. It seems like you're implying a completely closed racquet face on the swing is the only way to be effective. Maybe you're insinuating something else but to have a blanket statement that your balls will go long or in the net if your racquet is more on edge is just odd and misleading imo. But each their own I say! Thanks for the content...
Thanks. In the video at the 1:30 mark I even say that pros tilt down varying amounts. Some pros more some pros less. But they all close the face. Yes, on high, short balls do they close as much? No. But on the average ball they do this. I’m not sure you watched the video the entire way through.
I never said they have to point straight down line you’re bouncing a ball. I even recommend 45 degrees in the video and draw it in the screen. I’m not reaching in the video. I’m producing more content than anyone else in the world (3 videos just today) and helping players understand what they need to do in order to play better tennis. Trust me…I try not to sound “smart” like other coaches here on YT who try to WOW you with their terminology. But, there’s a ton of science and logic behind what I’m teaching. And no, I didn’t invent what I teach. Vic Braden is the mastermind of that. 🎾😊👍
This is bullshit. Who thinks this nonsense when hitting.
Haha ok. Thanks Anu!
You know what you’re talking about????
just an objectively bad video.