The COOLEST fighting game archetype.
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00:00 Intro
01:45 What is it?
03:55 Brawlhalla
05:18 Soulcalibur
06:09 Makoto
07:01 Outro
This video is about the oversized weapon wielder archetype in fighting games.
tags:
#brawlhalla #guiltygear #fgc
Guilty Gear Strive is a fighting video game developed and published by Arc System Works. It is the seventh mainline installment of the Guilty Gear series and the 25th overall. The game was released worldwide on June 11, 2021. It uses Unreal Engine 4. Intended as a "complete reconstruction of the franchise", Guilty Gear Strive retains the core essence of the series but revamps many features and mechanics, except for the removal of the series’ signature mechanic, the Instant Kill. It introduces the "Wall Break" feature, which allows for stage transitions when a combo is initiated in the corner of the arena. Guilty Gear Strive was released for the PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, and Microsoft Windows on June 11, 2021. It was also distributed via Sega to Japanese arcades on July 29, 2021. "Limited Edition" and "Ultimate Edition" editions were made available for pre-order; console players who get the latter received early access to the full game on June 8, 2021.
Brawlhalla is a free-to-play 2D platformer fighting game developed by Blue Mammoth Games and Ubisoft for Nintendo Switch, Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, PS5, PS4, Steam, iOS, and Android, with full cross-play across all platforms. It also has some of the most satisfying combo mechanics of any fighting game I've played, because doing successful low damage to kill combos is extremely hard. You have to either 100% know where your opponent is going or just make up some wacky play and hope for the best. It makes the kills all the more exciting. Brawlhalla has reached OVER 1 million in esports prize pools this year and over 50 million online players in total.
Soulcalibur (ソウルキャリバー, Sōrukyaribā) is a weapon-based fighting game franchise developed by Bandai Namco Studios and published by Bandai Namco Entertainment. There are total of seven main installments and various media spin-offs, including music albums and a series of manga books in the Soulcalibur series. The first game in the series, Soul Edge (or Soul Blade outside Japan), was released as an arcade game in 1995 and was later ported to consoles; the widespread success of its second main installment Soulcalibur in 1998 led to Soulcalibur becoming the name of the franchise, with all subsequent installments also using the name onwards. More recent games in the series have been released for consoles only and have evolved to include online playing modes.
BlazBlue is a fighting video game series developed and published in Japan by Arc System Works and later localized in North America by Aksys Games and in Europe by Zen United. An anime adaptation aired in autumn 2013. The game series has sold 1.7 million games in August 2012. - Ігри
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Itsh not an archetype technically speaking itsh just a trope or an aesthetic. 💀💀💀
lmao 🗿
I personally call this archetype "the ones with the big fuck off sword"
that works
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personal fave name for this archetype is lil fella big tool
perfect
Lfbt? To offer an acronym?
sounds like a phub category
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While “oversized weapon user” is certainly precise in its description, it’s a little wordy. A more brief and apt descriptor would simply be, “UNI character.” For example, “Whoa, that’s a big halberd. I’m getting some serious UNI character vibes.” Hope this helps!
definitely rolls of the tongue better
then what does UNI stand for? is it an acronym?
@@JacobTheStrong Oh, it’s just a joke. The Under Night (UNI) series is known for having pretty large normals.
@@foxof42 yeah but then it only makes sense if you know UNI. I just call them "Big fuckoff weapon"
I like Es. She's so smol and snuggly but also has a giant anime sword
Emphasis on snuggly
Understandable
Nobody likes Es. She is like AIDS incarnate
@@a_creatorsstuff17 Yeah she'd give some of the best cuddles out of the Blazblue cast I think
I love Es, she's one of my favorite Blazblue characters.
ABA has been one of my fav fighting game characters ever since Accent Core. Few things are more satisfying than activate her install (Either Moroha or Jealous mode) and then becoming the main reason of your opponent’s nightmares❤
Umbrella, Cham Cham, and Nanase are some of my favs that didn't get mentioned!
Wouldn't consider Umbrella as a big weapon small character I mean she is small but hungern is the same size as her if I could probably put her in an archetype it'll be : The Talking weapon archetype
Nanase's sword is not that big
@@Kader6310 I didn’t ask! And she’s not the same size, hunger literally adds an extra head of height to her character sheets, in a game where they draw every frame it’s really easy to check the early art and see that! Cool opinion but I think she fits! good for you tho! Also hungern is sentient and makes noises but doesn’t talk, so I have no idea what you’re on.
@@ImR3DACT3D she literally rides it, her main move is called “Swordcar” the sword is literally bigger than her, standing taller than her in all of her renders, thanks for your opinion but I don’t care! I think she fits!
If you disagree with the characters I mentioned and have no reason other than “i think the big weapon isn’t arbitrarily big enough to fit my standard of big” I don’t care, leave your own comments! Archetypes are not strictly defined and I’m here for fun discussion not to be told I’m wrong coz you disagree with me lol!
KI’s tusk is one of the more interesting examples of the big weapon character, he has the same weaknesses of other big weapon characters but he also has a mechanic that counters sloppy punishes,
When he swings his sword he will flash white for a split second and if the opponent attempts to hit tusk during the flash they will be opened up, it forces the opponent to respect the sword and also forces them to punish tusk at the end of a block string the same way everyone else is normally punished, it also doesn’t make it impossible to hit him on start up but it adds risk to it
I can concur
Partly so we can one day have a character who just wields a comically large spoon for obvious reasons
I contemplated putting the spoonful meme in this video
@typhoonbh you totally should have
That said unironically it could be super cool and have maybe some Villager or Azrael shenanigans where you can return things to sender
i love ur vids and love how u talk personally about a lot of fighting games, but my fave parts are always when u talk about brawlhalla. Never played the game and know NOTHING about it but I love learning new things and concepts from people who willing to share their know how with others.
i love colossus in yomi hustle, the guy with a sword 3x his size that's so strong he can launch the opponent into space with one swing and create earthquakes just by dropping it
aww man I haven't checked yomi hustle in a bit, def would have included him in the vid
Immidiatly thought of kagura from bb when you explained the archetype and was excited when he showed up at the end. Having to quickly slide into a stance then into a huge sword swing perfectly emulated the weight, momentum, and finesse of a normal sized person with a huge weapon.
Agreed
So, does anyone need Kliff?
During the whole 5 minutes I was like "I should comment and ask typhoon to look at Nightmare in SC6" and then you show Nightmare lol
haha
I think Ruby from BBTAG could also fit in here, although she's maybe a bit too fast to be considered one depending on how cranky you feel.
@@battlingandballing she doesn't count gorduea would work better
@@DripHakumen oh damn you right as hell bro is huge
All these giant weapons and yet no mention of Gordeau from Uni. Sure, he's not exactly a small guy, but there's nothing quite like hitting from 3/4 of the screen away with your giant scythe.
true
mika also has big ass gaunlets for a tiny girl
Weird pick but i love amane nishiki for this, like who expects getting drilled to death with a piece of cloth that expands into a size of a car, while also being a whip that drags you in
The ape escape soundtrack really takes me back lol 😅
Nice informative vid!
Killer Instinct also has a fun version in Tusk with parry frames on his moves he can just power through the enemy its great
Tokudai can be the name for this archetype, as it is the japanese term for "oversized"
How can you talk about this archetype and not mention Leo from red earth, bros legendary sword goes half screen
"I like disjoints"
Not quite the same archetype, but swordies in smash bros poisoned my liking of weapon chars cuz they have barely more whiff recovery (aka endlag), still have stupid good frame data, good mobility, sometimes good recovery, only weakness is throws usually
But these chars can be kinda funny
Of this archetype, Fiona from Arcana Heart is most memorable to me. This is a little girl with a big HEAVY sword. But the emphasis is no longer on size, but on weight of the sword. The consequence of this is that the moves are slow and with great inertia, and after some attacks Fiona falls to the ground with the sword. But all this is offset by the fact that most of the moves have hyperarmor, and this is visually explained not by the fact that Fiona is strong and withstands attacks, but by the fact that the sword is awesome heavy, and if you swing it, it will fall by inertia, even if Fiona has received damage.
I think Amaterasu in MVC3 could be considered as a part of the oversized weapon characters, even if calling her stance character makes more sense. The fact she has the option to choose from a shield, the big sword, and the chain of beads is really cool imo.
I don’t think people realize how deep fighting games are. How deeply we connect with these archetypes and how they affect our lives outside the game. Fighting games are something great!
Practically all of my mains fit this archetype because i just love big weapons. my favorite being labrys from p4au
In the same vein, unexpectedly acrobatic large body characters. They are kinda rare, off the top of my head I can only think of Tekken's Bob right now, but there's something inherently fun about tossing around someone with that kind of momentum.
Another fun subversion is smaller grapplers, like Bullet in Blazblue and Shermie in KOF.
I'm surprised there's not a single frame of Goldlewis in the footage. I say his coffin is massive.
But he is too so it kinda cancels out. I thought about it though
Idk wats the state of greatsword currently but it was definitely fast with those strings even tho it's a heavy looking weapon
For sure
A bit sad that you didn’t talk about Magyar at all considering he was in the thumbnail.
It was mostly about the weapon than the character but yeah Jaeyun didn’t look as good in the thumbnail
@@typhoonbh but Magyars stats embodied the same characteristics as the weapon even if Jaeyun is considered the best of the three.
Why complicate the name? The Great Weapon (Wielder) (greatsword, greataxe, greathammer, etc...)
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This is my favorite kind of chericture I play Mako/Arcadia in brawl ABA/May in guilty gear also the only chericture I play in blaze blue is Es so self explanatory. And I know its not a fighting game but in Hades II I use the axe. We need more characters like this. also a new great sword legond in brawlhalla I dont care what wepon they have as long as they have great sword.
Also great video :)
I appreciate it
I feel like Kirby from Smash 64 and Melee Puff is this archetype. Except instead of giant anchor or sword, they have giant feet
I believe the reason there isn't a specific name for this archetype is that... Well, this isn't exactly an archetype, more of a property you can add to an archetype, kind of like "big body". You can have a large weapon zoner, or a large weapon rushdown, for example. The large weapon isn't necessarily the central point of the playstyle, more like a twist on how you go about your main archetype's goals.
That said, I fully agree we need more little people with comically large weapons
I wanna say Darli Dagger, especially the way she makes weapons in the middle of strings. Also I think this Archetype can be called “Greatsword”
Can I ask which filter/effect you apply at like 2:00 ? It looks dope i
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I don't think this really counts as an "archetype," by FGC terms, anyway. It's more just a character design. That being said, yeah, it's the best. The main character in the fighting game I'm making has a bigass sword. I wanted to make an easy-to-learn character who is balanced between zoning and rushdown capabilities without being just another shoto
It’s probably more of a sub archetype that could fit into others, like glass cannons
The "Nuts from Angry" phenotype
Another amazing video 👍
Not me maining Basara in Samsho V because throwing an over-sized shuriken to the other end of the screen is fun lmao
This vid literally reminded me of the dinoblade game/animation dats currently being developed
Oh yeahh
Editing is on level here
I appreciate it
Thx for still covering brawlhalla and not neglecting it whrn talking about fighting games like others.
Marcus from shadow fight series (3 and 4) are soo slow, soo eazy to punish, but in his second stage, the glitch stage, he can do a really quick charge attack that even a forward rolling cant punish !
I think its a really cool concept of big weapon archetype, a big guy with big sword that trapped in time paradox and have deadly glitch power
Im forget to mention that he also has a armor during his shadow ability🫠, only 2 character that has shadow armor in shadow fight 4 arena, his 2 shadow move are also so intimidating tho🫠
I might be nitpicking but I wish they made Ruby's scythe bigger since her trailer made an emphasis on how massive it is compared to her.
(Even though that would make her even more crazy op.)
At least Es' body to weapon ratio would be fine.
Although on second thought, that may be because she swings and moves too fast. Her scythe looks pretty big when you look at her sprites.
Garland in the FF Dissidia Games uses and oversize all-in-one-Axehammer-dule-converted-grate sowrds, that can be swong with a chian. In Dissidia NT he starts off slow but the more he lands his attacks the stronger and faster he becomes.
That and the Character Snow in Dissidia NT. Has a super coruption arm that has a pretty fast start up on some of his normals, That and "Impact drive" Is a fast devestating super to use.
These are just mid range chars with big normals. Weapons can be used in a variety of different designs, and their gameplay varies wildly.
I think an archetype need a sharper definition, with more focus on the proper gameplay and less in the external aesthetics, to stand up by itself.
1:50 Hey Typhon how did you made this effect
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@@typhoonbh Much appreciated man!
Funnily enough cloud from smash should fill this archetype but actually doesn't because the buster sword is relatively medium sized compared to other fighters in smash
My fav archetype is goofy/big ass guy that gets hits by anti air fireball.
I didnt realize that pretty much all of the characters I like in different games fit the archetype. I love ABA tho.
I call this archetype the win big lose big because its either or for me btw I main kagura nago enkidu kouma vaseraga....you get the point also i know some of the characters i named dont have weapons but they all feel the same when the match starts
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Does Mika from Uni count? She has a big weapon, but she still has range issues because they're still gauntlets.
I’d say it counts, at least technically
Ah yes, big sword guy.
I don’t think there’s necessarily a character in this specific archetype there, but I’d love to see discussion of Idol Showdown; outside the Hololive love, the roguelike single player mode is especially engaging, and a great variety of fighters
2:01 Bro, how did you get this chalkboard drawing type of look? It’s smooth.
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I was about to sleep but I'm glad I'm ruining my sleep schedule with peak
my bad this vid was supposed to go out earlier
Heavy weapons guy should be the name of these type of characters
are there any Big characters whos moveset revolve around using small weapons?
possibly
Pshhh May isn’t an archetype. She’s just rushdown lol. Her frame data doesn’t even reflect such a huge wep. Now ABA she’s a refreshing archetype. Non-big character…BUT hampered movement & needs to install to unlock its true power. More like character traits or characteristics…not archetype. And both of them have great back dashes…
For the new league fighting game Riven could be the girl with oversized sword angle, or gwen with some big ah scissors
My fav is Siegfried and Nightmare from Soul Calibur along with Siegfried from Grandblue VS!
I just call them a Cloud Strife or a Final Fantasy rep and it gets the point across
I haven't actually played MVCI but I'm assuming the Monster Hunter fits into this because the whole video I was thinking about monster hunter (the game)
Big weapons are typical of
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Giant hunk of metal gaming
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What about a really big dude (ex: Potemkin) who fights with something like a butter knife?
Yeah I can't wait to play Riven in 2xko as well man
Hopefully I can start incorporating that game into my vids when it releases
Ram... She's an adorable smol autistic child. Very innocent and wholesome. But every time I fight one of her players it's a toss up if I actually have fun or not.
Since when was she autistic?
If only people thought like you... i wouldn't be bullied for playing lance.
The only reason why i chosed magyar in brawlhalla it's because he is slow, tanky and had gs and gammer
i love my comically large swords
I call this archetype "small girl with big sword". It just captures the energy.
I like speed grapplers like
Makoto sf3
Bullet blazblue
Angel kof
Its a niche archetype you don't see alot of
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I was about to get fully on board with the idea of the video, but almost immediately I feel like you're confusing character design with character archetype. Yes, when a zoner like ramlethal swings her swords slowly and controls the mid range with her long reach, the size of the weapon is very prominent. But she's a zoner at her core. She was designed with the big swings, setting traps and using her swords as projectiles as part of her toolkit as a zoner. That's her archetype.
Cliff is a much different type of character. Visually, his design also emphasizes on his big sword just like ramlethal, but despite his design sharing one similarity of using a few big lumbering powerful swings, he was designed to rush you down and be good at mid range. In exchange for having better range than most rushdown characters, he gets a shitty health bar. But his archetype is rushdown.
There are many characters who have large weapons that incorporate that visual trait into a unique trademark for their playstyles, but in the end I feel like all of those characters already fit into another fighting game character archetype instead of comparing and pooling together characters who work with different functions and can have wildly varied game feels into one category based on a common visual attribute.
I don't mean to make this comment like I'm trying to debunk your whole video or anything, I just feel like the concept you pitched feels a little redundant. It was cool seeing you talk about characters with big weapons tho, so you have my like. :)
Crusader from DNF is part of this archetype too
Ramlethal May A.B.A for the bill of small characters big weapons in Strive😂 sucks that I don't play fgs like that though
As a faithful practitioner of brawlers (Slayer across all Guilty Gears, Enkidu, Soriz, etc) characters like Kliff are often my worst matchups lmao I did play a lot of Ramlethal in Strive, love my girl, but it's hard to dash punch in on characters with such big, active moves. Kliff is the bane of my +R existence right now. Love to hate and hate to love that little oji-san.
love that gamechops remix, one of my favorite versions of that song
Same
Mika from UNIB. I don't like her design whatsoever but I think she's a very fun character
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This archetype should be called BFW (Big F**king Weapon)
BBCF mentioned pog
how do you expect fighting archetypes to exist in a fighting game that doesn't have grapples or blocks?
Which archetype is based around blocking? The game still has defensive mechanics I don’t see why you can’t categorize characters (I assume you’re talking about brawlhalla)
You know faust uses a GIANT Scalpel right?
He’s also a giant so it cancels out
what i dont like about typhoons vids is he brings up Brawlhalla in the traditional fighting games when discussing things in his videos but then he barely if ever brings up Smash bros if Brawlhalla counts for these vids smash should too right? but then if smash doesn't count for these videos then Brawlhalla shouldn't count either ( TLDR: I want typhoonbh to also talk about super smash bros)
I do talk bring up smash sometimes, I just have more familiarity with brawlhalla (a large part of my original audience) so it's easier for me to make connections when writing. It's something I do subconsciously and not on purpose, but I do include smash sometimes.
@@typhoonbh Oh I didnt know that, I played Smash before guilty gear and I thought Smash would make a good game to show as a example for more of your videos that's all (and keep up the good vids :)
That's it I'm getting the Dragon Slayer
I always thought they are called great sword users or great weapon users
They probably are
I woude call them "Guts" Characters.
has a nice ring to it
We need tinkaton if we ever get a new Pokken
There's a reason it's Great sword and not just big sword 💪
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No way you complained about ABA 5H , bro we need that shit so badly😭(Good video tho lmao👍)
It’s a joke don’t worry lol
@@typhoonbh Heheheh. Btw thanks for spreading the word of our lord Kagura 🙏
As a faust player. Yeah that's it.
Kliff gaming
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Why not call them "Giant Weapon Users"? It's catchy and rolls off the tongue better than "Oversized Weapon Users".
Or Oversized Weapon Wielders (aka OWWs) cuz every time they hit the opponent with their huge weapon the victim goes, “OWW!!!”
in may's case atleast, i call them biggy smalls