Planning Ambitious Shots | Is DIGITAL better than FILM? | How to Photograph new Landscape locations
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2022
- We bring you this episode of Photography Online from three different countries around the world. Ruth is in the heart of Spain, Nick is in Utah, and Marcus and Harry have been left behind in the Scottish Highlands - but that's no bad thing when it comes to photography. We'll be talking you through the process of how to get the best from a new location, asking if digital is better than film, and going in search of an ambitious photo of a steam train.
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Going with the film v digital, l use to wear a tank top back in the 70s but l don’t now!
But to be fair… you looked better in the 1970s!
That’s purely subjective!😀
Great show, as always! I spent nearly 40 years doing film before going digital. Had my fill of it. I agree with Harry, digital is better.
Thanks for your input Mark. The most important thing is to use whichever camera, medium, format best suits. This will obviously be different for everyone, but that's what makes photography so interesteing - there are many options.
I loved learning film photography at Gwent collage back in the 80s on the graphics course. Surrounded by students on the much more prestigious Documrntry Photography & Film courses. But it was digital a few years later that got me interested in learning more.
Well said.
Just caught this show before tuning in to PO Live. Absolutely loved it. And as a novice going on your Venice trip in December...I am even more inspired. Thank you.
Another great show everyone.
I was especially interested in the venture that Marcus is doing.
I think that is a great idea to try and capture a shot of the Train that no one has taken before.
Well done Marcus and look forward to seeing your next location's to do that.
Great video again 'guys'... loved the photos you took in Spain!
Your Mission features are always very inspiring, keep them coming. Looking forward to the tilt shift content next show.
Thanks as always Stefan.
Another great show! I totally agree with Harry. Switching to digital flattened the learning curve and connected the dots. I took what I had learned with film cameras and quickly advanced my skills. Keep up the great work. I look forward to each Photography Online fix.
Thanks for sharing!
I loved this episode. Great advice from Nick on doing a reccie and taking reference shots. Whenever I travel, I can see potential for compositions in different light or different seasons, but I know I can’t come back on this trip. So I take the best shots I can, and am content with them, and just maybe I’ll get another chance.
Thanks for watching.
Yet another show full of interest. Really love Marcus's adventures mistakes and all. Looking forward to the tilt feature as I still have one that I use. Watch the sunburn Ruth. Thanks to all concerned in producing these shows,
Thanks for watching John.
Wowww!!! Another Eye catching and educative show. Thank you guys. Cheers ❤️❤️
Thanks Marc. All the best.
Fantastic as always! Good people! Great information!
Our pleasure!
Great show as always,👍
I love the short clips at the end of your shows. I'd love to see a longer video of bloopers and behind the scene antics either in your main channel or for your contributors :)
Just found this channel. Good work - a channel that's actually about taking pictures and not reviewing kit! I shoot both digital and film (on a vintage TLR) but I use digital for any real work, film is just for fun (and the very occasional shot where a vintage look is what I want!) Also, I love the Spanish countryside and towns. Looking forward to more of the same!
Welcome to our channel Alan. All the best
I also stumbled across Albarracin on a cycle tour and returned years later in my campervan and yes it is a great photographic location.Always enjoy your show
Thanks for watching again Peter
Thanks guys! another really great show!
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks Harry. I feel a lot better now! Great show as usual.
Cheers Tom. Shoot whatever you want.
Hi Love the mission features, however I agree with Harry about digital better than film. thank you for another great show.
Great stuff yet again guys. Keep up the good work.
Thanks! Will do!
As usual lots of good info thank you very much to the team. When I first got interested beyond a kodak instamatic, the first think I did was buy a good book to learn from. I spent hours studying the different aspects. Then I put that into practice on film, where I took great care given the price if film and developing costs. Now I am on Digital and to be honest I don't take as much care when it comes to composition, that's probably my bad.
Marcus if you had taken a train ride before you started scouting, you may have got a few good ideas to check out for scouting. I don't know the area to be honest so that may not have worked, but it is a thought.
Hi Paul. I agree with you about many people not taking as much care with digital as they would with film. It's a common issue. The problem is that many digital shooters have never shot film, so they don't appreciate that taking more care can benefit the results. With regards to reccying from the train - this is not useful as you can only see off to the sides and can't get an idea of the contours of the track, but thanks for the suggestion. All the best.
I see the Bruce Forsyth tribute act is still going strong!😆
I think Harry summed it up perfectly at the end which is basically shoot with whatever you prefer to use. For me I'm a definite convert to not only digital but mirrorless but in the same way some people like to drive classic cars rather than something modern some people will prefer to use film. Nice idea about the train. I'm hoping to shoot it in Oct before it stops for the season and want to get the honeypot location but have an alternative in mind which I think I saw on one of Marcus' phone shots. Glad you have now started to be able to produce the show as you envisaged it.
Great episode! That village in Spain! Wow...
Thanks
Brilliant show once again ! Really interesting too I always struggle with second hand cameras as not sure of best site whilst ensuring your getting undamaged goods great show 👍❤️
As long as you buy from a reputable dealer, then you should be okay.
Great show as always, joining the team in Albarracin next year looking at the shots looking forward to the trip already. Good luck on your impossible mission Marcus, and with pronouncing the word decision.
We're looking forward to it already Steve.
Simply wonderful episode! I enjoy so many ways of making an image. I enjoy drawing, painting, film, and digital photography. I would like to suggest that one method of finding a good place to catch the train is to ride the train and see what the terrain is like from the trains prospective. You can then search out locations from what you see. That village is so wonderful! Not so many people there it seems. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and images with us all. Keep up the great work!
Hi Jon. Thanks as always for watching. Being on the train wouldn't be much use, as you can only see off to the sides. I have caught the train on a couple of occasions and it is very misleading as to where you think good locations may be. I previously marked locations from the train I thought might be good (not for this shot but for others) but when I've turned up on location, they have not been anywhere close to what I had imagined. It's also not easy to know if when the track is straight or bending when on the train (unless you constantly look down the carriage). You are right about the village in Spain - very quiet, which is one of the reasons we go there. All the best (Marcus)
Glad you brought up about catching the train… as it was something that crossed my mind while watching also… 👍
Brilliant. The town in Spain looks fantastic.
Cheers Gary. Thanks for your continued support.
Wow, great locations. Great show 👏👏
Glad you enjoyed it
Fantastic episode guys, great insight into location hunting that allot of people don’t realise goes on, but it’s what we do to find new locations. Loved Harry’s input on digital over film, as you guys know I’m with Marcus in the film corner, I shoot digital for work and film for me, it’s an argument that will rage on forever I’m sure. Just take pics on what ever you fancy, that’s what counts! #longlivefilm 😃
Cheer Lee.
Here here Harry 😀😀😀some folk are intrenched in the last century, can’t wait for response 🤓🤓🤓
Thanks guys, brilliant as always.
Thanks Ian. We appreciate your support
Some great locations for shots of the train. 👍
Glad you enjoyed
Brilliant, obviously. Looks like you’ve also spent quality time in music editing at the interludes :)
Looking forward to seeing how the train shot comes up…
Thanks Vijay. All the best.
My favourite show so far, thank you! Despite the lack of a gear review or miss cutie...
Glad you enjoyed it!
I picked Albaraccin to go to when in Spain from the guide book that was close to where I was....amazing place to visit.
Thanks Robin
decissthions… dethisions… decisions… 👍 We are ALL human… No point pretending that we’re not.
Another fantastic episode… full of helpful hints and tips… and beautiful locations! Thanks for pointing out the phone ap. I love looking into the various photography tools… a bit of a ‘junkie’ in that respect. 😀
Thanks David. Glad you enjoyed the show
Another great show. Thanks to Harry for praising and defending digital. I started out in film but put the camera away for far too many years due to life & work commitments. Digital, MFT Mirrorless in particular, brought me back to Photography. And Marcus using a paper map. This made me laugh, that’s what I do. From Georgian Bay Ontario Canada cheers :)
Thanks for sharing!
I always enjoy your episodes.
I think both film and digital have their respective places in photography today. I think as far as one being better than the other much of it is subjective.
Digital has definitely improved the ability of a photographer to capture fleeting moments.....birds in flight, sports, etc. I started my formal photography journey 40+ years ago when I chose photography as a hobby while doing the Duke of Edinburgh Award scheme in high school in Bermuda. Much of what we did was dark room related as we developed old negatives. At this time i got my first SLR and taught myself the exposure triangle, although I didn't know what it was at the time.
Today I shoot both mediums for very different reasons. I love the hands on approach to film from loading a new roll, determining what I want the image to look like to capturing based on that image in my mind and......I still love the moment I remove the film from the development tank seeing the images for the first time and knowing I captured what my mind saw. Who doesn't love the smell of the chemicals? I also love the perfect imperfection of film. In many ways I have found digital to have become too sterile, the images are so sharp and so clean that often times I find them characterless......subject based of course.
I shoot quite a bit of sports (football, cricket, swimming, track and field, etc.), while I shot sports on film way back when it is not something I wish to do today because digital provides the ability to captured thousands of images on an SD, CF, or XQD card without concern of missing a shot, the instant feedback it delivers and it allows me to deliver images in a much more efficient way.
So, as it stands I will continue to shoot both film and digital for very different reason.
Well said. Thanks for watching
A more interesting program this time, particularly liked seeing the effort Marcus put into getting an interesting shot that was different from the ‘honey pot’ shots. Utah looks interesting place to visit too.
Thanks Bob. We appreciate your support.
Great video as always!
Glad you enjoyed!
Great show once again, digital photography for me 😊
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you Harry!
No worries!
Excellent show! I really look forward to these. And Harry has really got it right. Digital wins. He didn't even mention that almost ALL analog images are digitized (and tweaked)... which sort of shuts down the discussion. Thanks for a great show.
Thanks Doug, although only the analogue photos you see are digitized, as it's not possible to get them online otherwise. There will be many film photos which are printed in the traditional way which you will never get to see. Also, there are still many valid reasons why someone would want to shoot on film and then digitize the photo, but we take your point. Thanks for watching.
@@PhotographyOnline Valid points, of course. But Harry still wins.
I liked the part of scouting for the best train shoot location. I hadn' t heard of the app used for the task before.
Thanks for watching.
As always, great show! Thanks for what is clearly a top-notch production each episode. Harry, I see you’ve left yourself further room in the Digital vs. Film debate - good on you. (Digital cameras allow for the capture of video as well as stills). Film can offer better resolutions than digital but the accessibility of the digital image workflow allows participation that can be rather exclusive on the film image workflow side as even the printing side of film is photographic. Thanks again for such a wonderful resource!
Thanks for watching Robert.
In that first piece something that was forgotten was to mention to geotag your photos during that reconnaissance hike so that whenever you return, especially the further in the future you do return, you can actually find the spot where your composition was shot from, even just using google maps to drop a pin where you are is helpful. Marcus looking for all those parameters in a photo location, that sounds like the perfect analytical challenge for geographic information systems and an expert analyst to tackle, to narrow down the locations.
Your suggestion is a good one, but it wasn't necessary in this particular location due to it not being that big, so it is easy to remember where each shot is taken from. Thanks for watching.
As a software engineer working in geoinformatics that was the thought that came to my mind as well 😎👌
what a wonderful country, wow 😍
The best!
I love vinyl on my high end record deck and it isn't full of clicks and pops if you look after it properly. I also love both film and digital. I was trained with the former at art college in the 70s and appreciate the work of the great masters of film and love the occasional darkroom session. However, there is no way I would be able to upload the quantity of stock photography that I do on a regular basis if the technology wasn't there of both cameras and software, specifically Lightroom. So, in purely practical terms it has to be digital most of the time for me. Great and inspiring show as always guys.
Thanks Ian.
I started in film then as digital took off I went happily with the flow these days as a press shooter I simply cannot do without digital cameras their instant results are essential in news photography. Over the last couple of years on my own time I’m shooting more and more film especially on old mechanical cameras I love the challenge of film but most of all for me it’s about the enjoyment. 📷❤️
Totally agree Paul. I only shoot digital for work now, but shoot film if I want to actually enjoy the process (Marcus).
@@PhotographyOnline exactly right mate to be fair day in day out with instant results it’s a pleasure to grab an old camera chuck some film in and got see what I find love it 📷❤️ and to be fair I only started using film again just for a bit of content for my wee chan but it’s certainly taken over in the last year or two
I live about 45 minutes from that Utah location. I've made it out there in the morning to do some scouting, but not quite early enough yet. I'm waiting for later in the year when I don't have to get up quite so early.
We hpe you can get something good when you manage to get out of bed!
I like to use both , i have an Olympus OM 10 and recently used Kodak Portra 160, a colour vibrance so different to digital.
The church @ 32-45 featured in the film Local Hero, the "messy" bit Marcus mentioned is a bothy called Essan.
Thanks Steve.
Think I would have been tempted to ask the train driver Marcus. Great video as always guys and lots of laughs at the end; what's not to like :)
Not sure what a train driver would know about photography Kevin! Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it.
Great episode guys
Thanks for watching Chris.
Could you do a review video on the Nikon Coolpix P1000 please? And a basic kind of guide of capturing night shots with the P1000 please? Struggling to get mine to light up landscapes at night because of the limit exposure times. Also, whether I could change the focal square point please? Thank you :-)
Great show as usual. Always look forward to the notification from youtube for it . Do you know of an Android equivalent of the iPhone Viewfinder app??
There will probably be one, but we don't use Andriod phones so have no experience.
I would add to the digital vs film difference in that after taking the photo, how well the film is handled and developed also affects the photo outcome. Negatives cannot last forever and each print maybe different after a time. However digital photos will remain the same even after many years later when we decided we want to print the photo.
That’s a very weak argument. Negatives should last a lifetime without any changes - others than to look more retro and awesome.
Eagerly waiting to see how this train scene turns out.
Thanks Chad. We appreciate your continued support.
Ruth - I really liked the picture where a bicycle ran between the camera and the building you were photographing. What were your settings? ISO, aperture and shutter speed? Hand held or tripod?
Hi Anne. Handheld, 1/8th (probably a bit too slow), ISO 100, f/16.
As a former film photographer I really don't miss it. I get my analogue fix adapting film era lenses. That said I'd never criticize those who choose and prefer film.
Thanks for your input.
Another great show. How about, in a future episode, doing an "Essential Camera Skills' on drone photography.
Hi Geoff. It doesn't seem to be very popular any more. We have done a couple of drone features before, but they didn't rate well. Looking at the results of other photo channels who have also tried to do drone stuff, shows that few people are interested. We really don't do much with ours anyway.
@@PhotographyOnline That's a shame. As a keen landscape photographer who is now in later life having mobility issues, the idea of flying my camera to the top of a mountain to get the shot that I'm no longer able to get by walking up there is a tempting one. I'm currently limited to only taking shots that are a few feet from the car.
Another fantastic show, thank you all for the huge effort put into such a quality production. I really like the Kingjoy tripod and ball head Nick uses, may i ask what model it is?
Hi Greg. Thanks for watching. Nick uses the C86 and the T40X head. We’re awaiting new stock to arrive any day now, so these should soon be available from the online store.
Thank you for the amazingly quick reply, I'm in Brisbane, Australia so i thought it might be the next day or so :) I noticed Marcus uses the A86 version and wondered if there were any differences in the quality of shots or if there were any strong reasons to choose one over the other... Thanks
@@farmboy4570 The main difference is that the A86 can be fitted with an optional centre column, whereas the C86 has a built in levelling base which allows the head to be levelled independently from the legs. The C86 goes taller, so therefore needs no centre column. Hope this helps
Have to agree with Harry digital is the way to go. I started with film back in the 1960’s and while there is a certain nostalgia with film digital allows me to focus on the image not the process. When you grow older you want to focus on that!
The thing about film photographs is this. A film photograph is obviously a photograph of a moment in time, and not just a frozen moment. Digital photography, including video, is so perfect that one can forget that one is looking at a photograph, and not just looking at a moment in time. I think the term that keeps jumping to my mind is "sterile", but that is too harsh. Don't get me wrong. I love shooting digital, and jumped ship from film (after shooting since the late 70s, and even developing my own film in those early years) as soon as I could afford it. I would never want to give up my digital photography. But sometimes, I just want something that is a photograph of a moment in time, and clearly a photograph. Could I add grain, etc.? I suppose so, but then I know, at least, that it manufactured.
And then there's this. I think that someone needs to keep alive film photography, so its skillset is not lost forever. I think that, because of these two things, that is why I'm working on rebuilding my darkroom, and shooting film again--but this time, medium format, which I couldn't afford as a teenager. :-)
Go for it Jon. I’m sure you’ll love it. Thanks for watching.
In September 2021 they used two trains, one on the return journey was always facing the right way. Might be the same this year but not as I post this only one train atm.
Good to know. Thanks
I passed Harry on the M6 at Carlisle last night. I was gonna wave, because obviously I know him, but then I remembered it’s just UA-cam
@@PhotographyOnline lol... bit harsh
Which exact viewfinder app are you using, thanks in advance?
It’s called Viewfinder Preview. Only available for iPhone
Nice show folks. I’m probably in the minority regarding film but have a slightly different perspective. So… I don’t think photos like Napalm Girl, D-Day, or Ali Standing Over Liston in B&W. Yes they “could” be taken today digitally, but wouldn’t because those photos were taken with B&W film.
Film & digital are simply 2 different photographic mediums, just as oil and water color with paint. Some of us, myself included, enjoy the magic of developing film (I have but don’t darkroom film). I’ve owned thousands of dollars worth of photographic equipment over the years and I take more photos now with my phone. But I love shooting 120 and 35mm film as well as shooting with my FF & Micro 4/3’s cameras. It’s about scratching an itch. More importantly… having fun!
Thanks Dan
what is the name of that app u were using to see the point of view of your selected camera + lens???
It's called Viewfinder Preview and it's available for iPhone only.
@@PhotographyOnline oh. thanks. so... iphone finally has some allure to me then after all these years ^^
I give up. Where in Utah was Nick? It looked similar to White Pocket, Arizona.
It is similar to White Pocket but it’s not White Pocket. It’s one of the locations we have found to include on our Utah itinerary, but it’s one of the few where there are rarely other photographers, so we certainly don’t want to spoil that by advertising it.
All due respect, Utah is a State in the U.S. not a country even though it has beautiful unique landscapes not found in any other State. Looking forward to this episode of Photography online - thank you!
We never said Utah was a country. We just thought that putting “USA” was a bit generic. We hope you enjoy the show.
Did I miss the location in Utah?
“due”
@@PhotographyOnline your vid thumbnail actually does imply it...
Good luck to everyone, from Pakistan 🌷
Thanks Tanweer
great show, by the way for segment 2, the digital arguments; you forgot one important PRO, that is digital sensors use LI-ON batteries, NOT the CR/Lr button cell or aa/aaa batteries film cameras use, either in a 35 mm format cameras metering prism/body; or the MF body/film magasine. This means you are able to re-charge them, instead of forever changing batteries, and the worry about how full they are, esp. if, like in some systems, they go 'dead' mid-roll, in which case asa and film position 'awareness' by the system is lost; aka the Contax 645/ Hasselblad H-system HM 16-32 film mags, or the rollei systems (the SL2000f\3000)- esp. as with the Rollei the battery bank is added to the rear of the mag, and powers the whole system, you take off the mag, you have to 'de-power' the whole system.
A proper film camera doesn’t take any batteries.
I'd like to add: TODAY, digital is better!
When I took my first digital photos, DSLRs were prohibitively expensive (at least for me), storage was expensive, saving images was slow. Sensors were small, resolution not that great, often pretty noisy in low light settings, prone to produce moiré patterns. Battery life was annoyingly short, prints often full of compression artefacts.
The only real advantage was, you could see the image immediately (on a very tiny, low-res screen on the back), and send them via internet. :-D We've come a long way!
Modern cameras are impressive, but my old, fully manual Minolta still is fun to shoot with.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Dominik.
I love that accent. :-)
Thanks! 😃
IMO, digital isn't just about the sensor, but an era similar to 35mm vs. LF back then. The previous generation could forego having an assistant, carrying a LF camera, heavy tripod, flash powder, ladder, doing airbrushing & hand coloring, etc. and now, some photographers don't even have to learn how to hold a camera steady, knowing how a flash operates and get locked in a darkroom for hours.
However, digital can be uncomfortable for those who don't grow up with computer and technology and yet photography needs the 'young' in each era to unlock new potentials in application and mindset. Digital should not only be thought as a more efficient camera, like the computer is a faster calculator, but a different device that can do things that we never thought is possible or practical.
Thanks for your input.
I was born in 61 and changed to digital in 2006 and have not taken one film image since. I was never satisfied with a 20x30cm print from slide 24x36 film. A 40x30 print from my 16MP uFT camera is technically much better.
The main difference was probably how you were getting the print done. If it was through an enlarger, then this would have severely softened the print. If scannng the transparancy, then the scan could have been the problem. There's no other reason why a good 35mm slide image should be inferior to a 16mp digital image, so something went wrong somewhere.
@@PhotographyOnline I did not have my own lab and gave the slides to different laboratories. No idea why the slide prints were so inferior and inconsistent. The lenses are not the reason. The 2.8/24-70 and the 4.5-5.6/100-400 were used with the analogue EOS3 and the 350D, 40D and 6D.
Great show as always, I do love Albarracín, it’s been a Mecca for Bouldering for some time now, an amazing place.
Thanks Alun
I'm with Harry all the way. Digital trumps film in so many ways. More time to be more creative. More time to experiment. I for one, would never go back to film. And they scan their film back to digital ... it does seem rather daft doesn't it? 🤣😂🤣
I did film photography for several decades from 110 film to 126 film, 135 film, 120 film, 4"x5" film to 5"x7" film, but today I am the very happy user of digital Cameras and ended up with now using Sony A7RIV and Sone A7RIVA. I hope that the film era will disappear, so all the chemicals that are used to make and develope film can be history for ever !
My 2 pence worth who was film/analogue for decades: while I still shoot occasional 5x7 film on a self made pinhole camera and contact print, imho if you shoot analogue and want’ that look ‘ then keep it all the way, shoot on film and contact print or print through an enlarger. For me, and it’s my personal opinion shooting on film and then scanning is an utter waste of time, one is just digitising in the most inefficient way possible to arrive at an inherently compromised hybrid process. Shoot analogue, stay analogue, shoot digital stay digital.
Thanks Russell, fair comment.
IMO, digital is like everything these days : practical, easy, but with no soul. And that's what I'm looking for in a photograph : soul. Something that will stir my emotions. And that seldom happens with neat, ultra sharp, "sanitized", manipulated images with enhanced skies and skin. Life isn't perfect, and most of the time, it's the imperfections that "create the magic", so to speak. Would "behind the Gare Saint Lazare", from HCB, be as "magical" if it were perfectly sharp, with loads of details and no grain ? I'm not sure.
I had an EOS R with L lenses, that produced perfectly sharp and exposed images more than 99% of the time. I rarely felt any pride in any of them, nor attachment to any. I always felt like the camera was to praise, not me. The lack of "effort" and constraints, paired with the ability to basically "spray and pray", prevented any picture taken from having any value in my eyes. When I shoot film, I am responsible for everything, mistakes or good decisions. I take more time, I choose what to shoot more, and I shoot less, and all of this gives value to the pictures I take, in my eyes at least. I cherish them. The results are not always what I wanted or expected, but when they are, man, what a pleasure ! I don't feel that with digital, ever.
And when I look at pictures taken on a digital camera, my first thought is always : "what did it really look like ? What has been changed, removed, replaced ? What were the colors like, originally ?". And let's not even talk about AI generated images. It's like in movies : CGI all the time... The "wow" factor gets overused and loses its appeal rapidly.
Anyway. That's just my opinion, we can all disagree, and I don't mean to say that digital photographers are in any way "less" photographers than "real film shooters". It's just how I feel, and why I decided to switch back to film.
Perfectly said! Thanks for watching and for taking time to comment.
I did guess I Phone, however, the I Phone does not take photographs, it takes snapshots
Depends who is holding the phone. Cameras don’t take photos - the person holding it does
How do you picture the word eerie? Where are the people?? Is this a movie set? I’m going to assume that most of the population is over 75 and thereby incapacitated in their homes, and that 99% of the youngsters, i.e., those under 75, have run away to Madrid 😱. I’ve visited many European cities; haven’t, as yet, seen one as ghostly as this.
It's one of its charms - we have it all to ourselves.
It would be nice to hear an Objective view on film to digital. LOL. Saying digital is sharper than film just isn't true. The medium and large format glass used on film could be both soft, and sharp depending on what lens you chose. The new digital crowd don't understand that. Wanting a super sharp lens for portraiture with 50mp is crazy. Nobody wants to see in their pores. But a lens that has a softness to it that falls off to the edges is amazing. Think Canon Ef 85mm F1.2 at under F2.
I agree digital has its place and has come a long way. To be honest it's only the last 5 years I even considered digital worth using. As film blew it away when a high-end drum scan or a pro wet print was done. And with digital, you can't get a better image. With film you can use different scanners to get a better image to use.
I'm not at all entrenched in the old ways. Film just was superior for quality for a long long time. 35mm is just getting to films quality now. Medium format still isn't there but will be soon. And large format film still doesn't have an equal in the digital world.
When you talk about flattening the learning curve, you might mean zero learning curve like a point and shoot. Because we had those with film too. And they took OK pictures that were in focus. But still, the defining part of a photographer was his skills and understanding what the different buttons do. That's what made an OK shot a Great shot. A digital camera doesn't help with artistry in a picture. But by not taking any classes to learn what a camera does we sure do get a lot of amateur photographers that are horrible that claim they're professionals and charge people for it. I see it all the time from friends that hire wedding photographers. The photographer was cheaper, and his pictures show the reason why. Friends come and tell me when they asked questions I mentioned, the photographers couldn't answer any of them. Pretty much just started shooting a whole lot and then gave them stuff to pick from. But hey, it was in focus and exposed right. Because the camera does all that for you now.
The greatest benefit today is the EyeAf. It truly is a game changer. Just watch and setup the shot for lighting and composition. The camera pretty much nails the focus. Iso performance for digital is awesome too. As is being able to shoot multiple pictures without changing film. The Dynamic range is great in Digital too.
So, as I see Digital does have its place. I don't think he was accurate in some of his words on film.
We agree with you. Harry was simply offering an alternative view to Marcus's one, which only appeals to a minority, so we thought we would balance things a little. Thanks for watching.
Why not use Google Earth for your reconnaissance?
Because it doesn’t give enough detail - not even close.
Decisions decisions...
Previous generation digital cameras are pretty inexpensive and really good. Just buy one from a reputable source
Thanks for your suggestion.
Yes Harry, shoot digital if you're not looking for top professional results.
Nope not a chance. An 8x10 film sheet photograph, cant beat it.
We'll be showing the difference in quality between all the formats in a future show Eric. But it sounds like you already know the outcome!
A medium format digital against a 6x7 medium format film camera with pro film and slide film would be an awesome showing too. Print the Film camera at a pro lab the old wet way against a digital printed from a phase one Iq4. Then take a loupe and put it on the print to check its sharpness and quality. I already know which wins. The 6x7 hands down. Put the 6x7 on a high end drum scanner and it beats the medium format too. But it is at a greater cost. But if you take 200 pictures and only looking to enlarge 1. You only get 1 high end drum scan. So not sure how that works out in pricing.
Making photography accessible has led to some folks calling themselves photographers and charging money only because they bought a camera. I have seen some poor pictures and was upset that non-photography people actually paid for that trash. These "photographers" will undersell real photographers and take advantage of people with an untrained eye. This is not to negate the benefits of modern tech, but does anyone else notice this trend?
There's certainly lots of cowboys out there with digital cameras.