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Unbound Thresh: Why Riot is RUINING Monster Champions
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This took WAY longer to put out than I wanted, and honestly i fear the algorithm is gona throw this one in the toilet but honestly. I've been working on it for so long I felt like i just had to finish it. For one just to get a video out. And for two because I am very passionate about the subject matter
#LeagueofLegends #UnboundThresh #Ruination
Literally an hour before this video has gone live Riot announced they would be updating in game Unbound Thresh to look more like he does in the cinematic. That's what I get for being slow at making videos I guess :( but it does make me hopeful that Riot will continue to do more stuff like this in the future. People deeply care about your characters Riot, listening to them is a very good idea :0
In any case, this video isn't PURELY about just the design of Unbound Thresh so hopefully you fellas can still find some enjoyment out of it :)
And then they changed Brand wr splashart to make him more eboi
@@TGRTheNewman smooth brand
It do be like that when you're an hardworking MAN
Great video nick idk if it worth 2 months of waiting and living with dry hardened bread but, it was a really good video(also when i first saw that skin i was like..... i had no wordsi was confused like mostly everyone else, but when i saw the cinematic i really liked it it was a damn good cinematic and so i watched it 3 more times in a row cause i liked it so much. I hope u will make the video u did last year, like the review of the 2020 champs, i really hope u will make that video sometimes im rewatching it. Thanks nick for making us these great videos.
Do you have a link to the announcement by any chance? I can’t find it apologies.
Can't wait for the inevitable void event in a few years and the release of Unbound Cho'gath with even more ghost abs!
@sunnyN don't forget the amazing cameo of kassadin stumbling upon the squad on his way to give his daughter some mcdonalds peach pie™ and leaving afterwards to do something more important
Also don't forget about vel'koz who will be changed into e-boy streamer. (Streaming his experiments of course)
And the new champion, Haw'ken, some model-looking dude that has a void arm that forces him to be shirtless all the time
@sunnyN Kassa- who?
At this rate rek'sai is becoming a sexy e-girl, but riot, do not dare to touch ornn
The rumblings I've heard through the grapevine is that Riot did NOT anticipate how much negative backlash the Sentinels event was going to get, which I think goes to show that it's marketing and sales people running the show right now, with writers and artists just trying to do the best they can under the circumstances.
You aren't wrong at all. It's like the Apple situation right now, like Necrit mentioned on his video.
Y’know I just started scrolling into the comments when he brought you up in this video. Nice seeing ya here man! And yeah, that certainly seems to be the case with Riot atm, although my opinions are somewhat easily swayed since I’m mostly an outsider to LoL, playtime-wise.
@@inigo137 I'm out of the loop, what is happening with apple?
@@Justin73791 Necrit in his vid cited something from Steve Jobs and basically, you have Idea Guys and Marketers. Idea Guys flesh out this really cool thing people will like because of its execution or uniqueness and Marketers actually make it KNOWN so there is an audience to actually pay for or enjoy it.
But marketers are what actually bring in money, so you'll hire more and more of them to help better finance. Eventually leads to a situation with a lot more marketers than Idea Guys, so they can sell or make profits...but they're not actually selling or capitalizing off of GOOD or FUN PRODUCTS and will rehash whatever few new creative things they still make. And some Idea Guysay leave when they realize how much of a backseat they've become.
@@Justin73791 basically think like raid shadow legends. You have a shit ton of people marketing it which is where all the money goes (sponsors, ads etc.) and then you look at the actual game and it’s a pile of flaming shit because they haven’t put any money towards the game.
Thresh has always been sexy, everyone's just a coward.
MA MAN THRESH
THIS-
THE NEW DESIGN IS NOT EVEN THAT SEXY, BRING MY MAN THRESH BACK.
If it isn't Wraith Daddy, then it isn't Thresh.
Senna totally had some fun staring from that lamp 🥵🥵🥵
yeah sexy scary even thought i don't know how to play thresh.
Yorick was forgotten for 5 years, even after his rework he is forgotten for the event where he is supposed to be a MAIN CHARACTER
you don't know how pissed off I was lol
my boi yorick got disrespected HARD
Most dissapoiting shit i ever seen. No Yorick , No Kalista , No Thresh
MA MAN YORICK
Maokai does exist... i think...
Damn boi, this is a sick ass video, boi!
Necrit turned into Kratos all of a suden
EDIT: or Arthur from RDR2, you decide.
B O I
*Boi*
B O Y
*B O I*
fun fact, fiddlestick rework was to me the best visual rework in the history of league so if they make a SINGLE skin of him being sexy anime character, I will personally walk to Riot Games and delete the 10 champions that makes them the most amount of money because they're anime character + the fiddle skin
Watch them make a spirit blossom fiddlesticks
@@sandwick4147 that could work with a spooky inhuman way, spirit blossom could be beautifully scary
i mean the image of some sort of naked manikin being twisted into fiddlesticks proportions could look cool, or it would look hilarious, seems like a win/win
Ahri garen darius lux yasuo leesin yone zed ...whts the rest?
I don’t think they could even do that with his design.
I'm happy there are more people actually interested in monster champions. I've always liked them and it kind of made me sad that every new champion is exactly what you described. I hope that someday riot will get back to designing more monster champions. They have a special place in my heart.
The notion of ‘’Monster champion’’ is also really large and allows for a lot of creative themes. I’ve just got back into LoL and I decided to learn Kindred because their design, lore and voice lines are just amazing. It would be difficult to do something like them with human-looking characters.
I’m very anti meta. I hate seeing the same picks every game. While I don’t play some of the harder champions in a way, I’m never gonna play a guy like yone or yasuo because I get annoyed so much by seeing them in game all the time. I gravitate to ones more like Kayle, Nocturne, Tristana, Vi, Diana, Nasus, and Garen cause they all are super fun to play while not being overplayed. If I see a champ appear more often in my game, that makes me less likely to want to pick them up. I’m probably gonna pick up Reksai next just because she’s in that same category of fun champ
@Moonlight he already prove the point man people like what they like (the point is) how Rito games don’t really give a shit about unique and cool ass design when they just selling skin and release way more clusterfuck of sexy anime dudes and babes to get hand to many people as possible (even tho league nowadays didn’t attract new fans anymore because their new design is bland af).
As pessimistic as it is going to sound, the only way we will ever get back to a time where monster champions/characters were a thing... the gaming market will need to crash. I don't want the industry that I grew up with as a kid to go through another market crash that nearly destroyed the medium. However, it will need to go through one in order to weed out the investors, stockholders, and marketers who pretty much have the gaming industry by the balls. Only then can we ever go back to a simpler time where people could create whatever they want without the mighty dollar telling them how it should be made.
I so much agree!! My favourite champion was velkoz 🤩 why don't people like them?? Humans are already boring enough, we play games to dreams a little bit...
You actually make a great point about Viego. Imagine if he was released in 2014 in the middle of all those champions you mentioned. I guarantee you more people would appreciate the subversion of expectations Riot were supposedly going for.
But now he's pretty much yet another generic hotboy.
And well i say a game like fable and fable 2 did it better with jack of blades being a skiny guy but still looking evil in away and with lucien ferfax having the same drive as viego where he lost his wife and kid who he loved and went mad with the power he found and the spirel and all he killed and all the evil he did even shoting kids as they had a magic power that could stop him. Lucien just felt more like a ruler then viego
@@zileantimekeeper7464
Thanks for reminding me to replay Fable for the tenth time
As someone who absolutely despises Viego's design and won't ever shut up about it, I agree with you. The reason I hate Viego so much is bcz I know that Riot didn't make him look like that to break stereotypes. They did it to sell a fuckboy.
I expected him to look more like a Dark Souls boss. But he looks like the main vocalist of an emo band(which is hilarious since his next skin is Pentakill where he's the lead singer in a band)
I mean, I’m pretty sure it wasn’t meant to be a subversion of expectations in any way, just another way to mess up the lore just for the sake of putting hot anime boy once again.
Probably if Viego was out in 2014-2017, he’d look a lot more like Kalista or Ledros in LoR, like a ghoul, because in the whole LoR cards, there is no ghoul/wraith that is really human, either it’s a ghost, either a monstrosity
Next in line: unmasked Jhin > Unmasked Jax > Bouyant Nautilus
Ngl the unmasked thing was a over reaction and didn't didn't even look young more like a eastern asian man with skin imperfections here and there. Even in the I'm the offical art book jhin face was covered by a black bar. The one people saw before wasn't even the final lool
Nah nah nah next up is giving Jax a sword and giving Vayne and the demacians magic
@@illusionofartYT i think it's just concept art because drawing Jhin without knowing his head shape would be pretty hard. And also didn't the original concept censor his face?
Boi I they unmask my guy jax, ima riot!
ok let make 1 thing clear the unmasked jhin isn't cannon let that be known
Can't wait for unbound reksei so we can listen to our mom scolding us with an actual voice
Rek'sai with hourglass shaped succubus body and voice doe 🥵🥵
@@rpstephen "Damn straight!" *high fives your hand and then does a finger snip*
MA GIRL REK SAI
She'll probably look like Adriana Chechik
I mean at the way Riot is going with character designs I can’t wait to see sexy Tahm Kench 🥵
Wait no more, because he already is
Imagine Tahm kench with those ghost abs though 🥵🥵
@@rpstephen dont you dare touch my hero,!! i bought a fooking arcana skin!!
hes already sexy heh
I mean, wasn't it said somewhere that the fat fish man is just one of his many forms?
*People literally lovin threshs and kindreds designs*
Riot: aight guys people dont like monster champs
More like: China doesn't like monster champs, better change it to something more appealing
@@milosh555 and that's what I hate about China (although they got lots of jhinteresting things but still what they prefer just ruins League)
@@farconwill4708 I mean they don't understand why America hates ugly things. Just preference ig
@@farconwill4708i wasn't expecting the "jhinteresting"
@@justinpark2946 quite the opposite brother, china enjoys the sexy more than america. if anything, china is the one that doesn't like ugly things.
ua-cam.com/video/NZteyvVxzwI/v-deo.html
this is an old video, but still a good indicator of the preferences between the two reigons.
the point about the niche playstyles of the monster champs riots deems as "characters audiences don't connect with" is very appreciated. I hadn't really questioned that claim from them, but now that I think about it there are plenty of monster champions with more accessible kits that are super popular.
I gotta ask you though, why didn't you question that claim?
@@ebilveryebil3091 Because they're right to an extent, and not only right, the logic follows. There's a reason why girls (using girls intentionally instead of women) are memed to only play supports, and not only supports, only enchanter supports. And my personal experience supports it, all the women I met in league played enchanters or if delegated to mid, it's always Ahri, Lux, Kata, all those champs have vastly different playstyles but one key similarity, they're all female.
Now, I'm not gonna go on a tirade about how women literally can't relate to anything non female (yes, even rek'sai) but I will say this, what you main MATTERS, and it matters a LOT. Sure, it doesn't apply for 100%, but there are CLEAR guidelines about psychology of people depending on what they main.
Now, I will talk only about high elo for couple of reasons. 1. Low elo players don't really ''stick to a champion'' and just move around, rarely truly OTPing a champ. 2. Only way you can stay with a champ for long enough to get to high elo is perserverance and that requires you to both love their design AND gameplay, so it's up to game developer to sell lore/theme of the champ together with gameplay, and they're always praised when they succeed in combining it properly!
I've met 3 high elo Rengar OTPs so far, and they're all fucking psychos both in game and IRL. I've met 7(including me) high elo Thresh OTPs and they're all fucking sexual degenerates IRL. I've met 2 Braum and Ornn mains in high elo, and what a surprise, they are wholesome guys. Oh look at that, a female in Diamond 2-1? Of course, it's Soraka main.
Exceptions are there, even mentioned in this video, in the ''niche'' argument, but there are certain champs that attract certain types of people, you can't escape that reality.
But it's NOT something that affects real life TOO much... for a player... But when you're in charge of biggest game in the world, and you're purely financially driven... you're going to find out that even 3% decrease in champion play rate (and play rate converts into buy skin rate) will make you simply not release monster champs, cause even 3% is giant pile of cash for them (and I can't say for sure since I can't access Riot's stats overall, but my personal feel is that monster champs have about 15-20% less play rate from the start, compared to average good looking 20 something years old, 6 abs, double Ds tits champions).
@@washada Absolutely not sadly, I've only applied my psychology background combined with personal experience playing the game. Sadly, no one would ever even let me do such a research because sadly, getting results such as ''Female gender has far less capability of identifying with a character unless it is a female too'' will never ever be published as result in the West, no matter how thorough the testing is.
Just trust me, no matter how much we meme women for being soraka/lulu otps, if she ain't enchanter and/or ahri,lux main on mid, that IS a red flag.
Sadly, not all champions have such strong community like Rengar, Thresh, Riven, etc, and since I only apply any data from people who main them, aka over 1000 or 1000s of games on certain champ, obviously people who are ready to invest that much time in a certain champion in a certain game have high possibility, or at least increased possibility of not being mentally adjusted, so I might be only looking at skewed ''who's wrong how'' based on mains and totally ignoring people who, for example, main GP but only play 5 games a month on him. But that's okay for me, rarely I've been interested in ''normies'' (although using that term unironically is cringe).
Thresh reminds me of Ghost Rider so much. Coming from a monster enjoyer, I wish they added more monster champions for adding some variety into the roster
man this is sad, i still remember when thresh first came out and everybody knew that this one of the best designed champions ever, shame that riot is now retroactively changing the few things that i genuinely liked about this game
also i totally agree that 2014/15 with aurel sol, azir, vel koz and kindred had the best champion designs, these 4 are my all time favorite champions and i doubt anything will beat it
@@CallMeTeci i say there is no point in actually playing the game anyways, the few good character designs can be enjoyed by themselves
Jhin, bard and kindred are some of the most unique and amazingly themed champions ever, that was a great year.
funny how the number of your favorite champion design-wise is four, you get it? fOUR
Jhin
@@Naev0w0 can't deny it (one of them is my main)
(that's Jhin cuz everything he does feel so powerful)
Biggest event yet: only gives out 300 tokens and 1 orb. I was literally more interested in the coven event
me too
Yeah me too i wish i can get zyra coven prestige
This is where I love Vex as she looks at Unbound Thresh dead in the eye and says "I liked you better when you were a monster" THANKS VEX
Based Vex
i'm convinced that riot intentionally bombed the ruined king event because they didn't think they would be able to live up to so many years of build up.
Hey Nick, sorry about how the production of this video went. I saw your struggles and doubts with the creation of it, especially after the cinematic dropped, and I wanted to say thanks for putting it out anyway. It was a great video
This. I hope Nicky doesn't get too hung up about releasing videos 'too late' cuz there are always gonna be updates that you can't foresee: the main body of the video is still worth putting out, plus you can always address additional concerns in the description / comments. Good enough really is good enough. :)
It was announced that Matt Dunn (The writer of Kindred, Pyke, Ornn, Ekko, etc) has been fired along with other god-tier writers that are responsible for the characters and stories that actually made us care about the lore to begin with. It's over Nicky, all hope is lost. It's not going to get better.
Why were they fired?
Wtf kindred has some of the best lore
At this point Riot are spraying at their own feet with a sub-machine gun, Ekko and Pyke are among League's most popular champions and very well designed characters. Pyke's gameplay pisses me off because he's the prime example of how League breeds selfishness where the "support" is actually an assassin who can easily get pentakills by smashing the R button to pieces but he's a good character in terms of story and design.
Damn that’s why I maimed ekko his lore was dope. Same with pyke he’s one of the most badass characters in my opinion riot is so stupid.
WHAT ?!?
wtf ?! What kind of FOOL fired him
Riot: People don't like monster champs.
Me to Fiddlesticks: You hear that shit?
I play only monster champ plus zed and yasuo nothing else
*Fiddle doesn't answer shit*
Oh fuck it was a ward.
Bro Fiddlesticks rework was the best rework league ever made even if you put his lore aside and i don't say that because fiddle is my fav pick now, it's because these are straight facts
@@shinoharuv2519 Honestly I agree, they nailed that one
Me to my Kog
I personally think it's just a very sad cheap shot. Thresh is one of the oldest, most iconic, and most played characters in the game. And riot games seems to be selling out one of their coolest and individual characters.
My interpretation of Arcana Xerath's skin is that this is supposed to resemble how he looked like in life before he went at caused disaster but yeah good design aside (at least in my opinion, the artist did a really great job with the splash art) it's clearly mostly meant for fanservice
So Xerath in life was a femboy?
Damn
@@Dexuz i mean idk if it was literally how he looked like right before the disaster or if this was him way younger in his youth but yeah maybe lol
this is why i want more yordles/monsters and why im so hyped for vex's release. when a champ is not just "sexy human" they have to give it a very interesting personality and playstyle to make up for it which ill always take something new over abs and boobs
Why not a Monster/yordle with abs and boobs plus and interesting personality and playstyle, the best of both worlds.
@@Otrebla2105 Go on.
@@Otrebla2105 we're listening...
You mean Mega Gnar?
@@wakkaseta8351 Yeah but Gnar is kinda a baby, So that's a LITTLE weird.
Honestly, one thing I'm scared of is Riot makes more humanised skins for the monster champions. Please, Riot. My monster bois are already amazing. They don't need human skins.
That's why Zac is so awesome, they can't make a human version since his entire moveset is based on "I'm a slime"
@@scuraballthetrueone Wait for it until china comes up with the idea to tuin this too
@@xeronylloyd21 at least my boy will get some love
@@scuraballthetrueone china: slime? Now is a hot water boy anime character
Ngl...i want to went back 2016-2019. I miss that time, the only think that i like about New LOL is it new lord and new items. Nothing make me feel like LoL is a good game now. Example: Seraphine
I loved the shadow isles because of their designs. I was really let down when Viego was released because he didn't really fit design wise for me. I was expecting something more like Mordekaiser since most shadow isles champion looks threatening but I don't get that from Viego.
@Moonlight I’d say Arthas at least was trying to save and then avenge his people until he picked up Frostmourne. He was consumed by his love for his people and his need to be the perfect Prince and Paladin for them. He set standards for himself he could never hope to live up too.
I can tell you Chinese LOL
community also hate Unbound Thresh.
good
but I thought it was illegal for them?
@@supanixta "likes skelletons" -200 social points
In China they have game law forbidden skeleton
@@Azure_Gust931 "skeleton is forbidden!"
*police tears out skeleton*
I would like to address a few points in this video to give some insights into this Chinese gaming situation.
China took censorship a bit too far. Games meant for underaged audiences could not have words like "kill" or "death" so they instead opted for "defeat". League of legends is rated 16+ over here so all the skeletons and "violent word choices" are mostly unaffected, but for some reason all the red blood effects got censored. Over here we call Vlad and Darius "petrol lords" because their VFX are black instead of red, which is just outright rediculous. The censorship meant for LOR is detailed in this video ua-cam.com/video/tlbnuDQnkL0/v-deo.html, but note that LOR never made it to China for whatever reason. Instead, the censorship applies to Korea and Taiwan and probably a bunch of other countries that share a similar censor philosopy with China.
I do not think Xin and Jarvan are popular in China because of their asthetics, but instead, their brain dead gameplay. Chinese players call Tryndamere, Xin and Master Yi "蛮易信", the brain dead trio, and other champs like Jarvan, Morde and Garen are a similar case. They are everywhere in low elo but the higher up the ladder you go, the less you see them.
The Chinese server is run by Tencent and they are notoriously known for excessive monetization. Think of their gaming department as the Chinese version of EA, just a lot bigger, and a lot worse. That includes randomly making a new skin "exclusive" or "limited" and selling it for twice the original price, to rigging the rates of Hextech Crafting. Ask any Chinese LOL player and he could tell you how he got Hillybilly Gragas and Deep Sea Kog'Maw out of every single Hextech Chest. Dragon fist Lee Sin is just another example of hungry marketing. Tencent figured out a way to implement GACHA into LOL and this is the only way that dragon fist Lee Sin could be obtained. Most players hate them but some whales are keeping this system afloat. I believe this dragon fist problem improved after the release of Dragonmancer Lee Sin because now nobody gives a fuck about dragon fist anymore, but who knows what Tencent would come up with next time.
I hope nickyboi could see this comment and hopefully pin it
Was about to write something similar, check this comment y'all. Its all about the censorship. Same thing happened to Mobile Legends a few years ago.
Is there really similar censorship in Japan? Plenty of Japanese video games and anime are full of undead stuff, skulls, and blood, and I've never heard of Western games/movies being censored. Look at Jojo-- the only censorship in Jojo is in the West (censoring Jotaro smoking for whatever reason, most of the really gory stuff, and Stroheim's Nazi salute). Hell, Jojo actually pokes fun at East Asian superstitions with Mista, who's deathly fear of the number four is played as comedy.
@@bengrz13 Checked again. Apparently this censorship does not applie to the Japanese server. I'll edit the comment.
@@bengrz13 I'll comment on this as well. Although I'm not actually Japanese (yes, so all of this could be wrong. But some of them makes sense to me so I'll write here anyways). I actually looked a lot into Japan in the past in 2016 when I still watched anime to see the reason why anime plots and writings are just so trash that it hurts, much like the sentinels event writing. Basically the Japanese government gave up on anime, manga. They just don't care 1 bit about those stuff, bc most Japanese actually don't like animes/mangas. Don't get me wrong, some of them do watch anime but the anime that Japanese watch are mostly actually kid shows like aggretsuko and anime is actually despised among the people due to them ruining the image of Japanese tradition and rules. For example: There's an anime called wataten, which is the most vile thing ever, a grown woman actually lusting for a fcking child. No matter it is funny or not (which I don't see as funny, it's just gross) it is actually bizzare how this come to be since in Japan, u can't even come in contact or even near the child if you are not their family relatives and the action in the anime is immediately get caught by the police since in Asia in general, there are lots of police stations with many police swarming the streets. And many other traditions like workplace in Japan, education in Japan is just different than anime. And bc now Japan is mostly known through anime, at least online. Many people despised them and the government just don't care about it and let it go however it wants to go. That's why in the anime industry, massive underwage employees and trying to lick the West's boots writers goes rampant made anime what it is (a bunch of nonsense, elementary writing bs) with a few exceptions of actually good animes like Jojo and some others that I forgot the names of
I am from Vietnam so more or less, at least in the same Asian part like Japan so at least I can confirm that with the etiquette of being serious about education and morals and stuff like that. Anime is just so plainly wrong that sometimes it is just stupid to think that anime is from Japan, it would make more sense if it's from the West
Edit: Forgot conclusion, so the reason why most Japanese video games and anime bs are full of gory stuff is bc Japan mostly stopped caring about them as long as they are shipped outside of Japan, but not "In" Japan. In Japan, those things are actually restricted as most of the bloody games are definitely not really popular and only on PC which is fortunate for the government since most Japanese people don't play PC games anyways, iphones and consoles are the number 1 choices. And there is a superstition of all Japanese like cute stuff, I've actually heard about it too. I don't know if it's true or not, but at least I can confirm that the cute is 'absolutely not cute anime girls" , but more like cute animals like hello kitty and aggretsuko merch
Second edit: Sorry for the essay, I'm actually Vietnamese so my English might be bad which is yes in Asia and close in traditions to Japan, China, Korea, Malaysia, etc
It says something that Fiddle and Volibear's reworks have turned them into some of the more thematically fascinating characters in the game, and they haven't received a skin- or indeed, any attention from Riot- since they were released :/
What happened to all that crazy demonology lore about Fiddle, the first of ten? The epic Ornn vs Volibear kaiju showdown? A skin at least?
And they still don't give Teemo a proper lore
@@farconwill4708 or shaco
Fiddlesticks and Volibear will get a new skin each this year, Volibear's will even have a Prestige edition (perhaps to compensate for being the only champion with no skins that are Epic-tier or greater)
@@XMBarrett FUCK YEAHH FIDDLE WILL GET A SKIN
Viego being a beautiful dude makes sense in his lore context. It's just a shame that he just drops perfectly into the Riot streak of "Hey China loves this stuff, more abs/curves" design logic.
One of my favoueite things used to be to show Thresh to people who have never played league and get them to guess his class/playstyle based on his default splash art.
The reactions when I said he was a support were always hilarious.
*Laughs in cirit AD Thresh*
@@hz.kemalpasa2997 "Who Is the support now?"
one of his original appeals was that he was something diferent
if you wanted to play suport and use something else than the cutsy anime girl you got the chain warden
Wasn't knowing about Draven censorship in L'or, thanks for the laughs.
Yeah but i really like Sivir with clothes. Looks way smoother
@@Eldex0 true, it makes her fit in the desert concept better imo
@@Vera_Nguyen wouldnt you want to wear less clothes in the desert? either less or looser clothes, but i dont think a tightsuit really fits the desert :/
Why did they have to change his beard though
@@alonsotoon I mean, every photo I've seen of people in the desert they are wearing full clothes, the more, the better. It not only protects from the burning sun on day, but the extreme cold at night.
The Rise of the Sentinels visual novel feels like it was written by people who's only knowledge of League of Legends was browsing the least funny LoL memes possible.
That's... That's actually pretty accurate
Thank you for really diving into the the niche champion angle. I really despise Riot's stance that monstrous champ designs don't resonate when they keep assigning kit's that appeal to a niche playerbase to those champions. It's always been the gameplay ultimately driving popularity. Like you mentioned in the video, Quinn, Illaoi, Yorick, Kayle; their gameplay is not broadly appealing, so regardless of design they are niche. But Riot's really gonna gaslight people into thinking only monstrous champs are niche and that it's because they are monstrous.
IMO it's not far from their logic behind Twisted Treeline. They didn't ever work on it because it was more niche, but a lot of people wouldn't play it because it was so poorly balance due to the lack of attention it received.
I don't even play league anymore, and I still feel like a character (that I love) was killed.
Me too bro
Same, i just hope they don't fuckup Jax :/
@@lluciae me i hope they don't do the same to my zyra love
Kinda reminds me of that time in certain other Moba when they also took a Skeleton guy who was extremely popular for being badass and goofy and giving zero fucks and also remodeled him into a human form.
Except instead of making him an e-boy they made him into a pompous insane old man who was still badass and goofy and gave zero fucks.
who was that skeleton Hero in which game?
I know who he is talking about, the god damn Wraith King from Dota 2
He went from some Skeleton King to this lovable bastard that was also green like Thresh but had a dominant beard and had no E boy feelings in his radius
Dota 2 isn't a MOBA, it is Action RTS
@@nailsoy2311 So I guess LoL is a Action RTS as well so nothing is really different
@@Predator20357 well, Riot calls it a MOBA. They even coined the term so that people would stop calling LoL "a dota-like game". Also lots of things are different between Dota 2 and LoL.
''We stopped making monster champs because they're too niche''
Meanwhile Dota 2's most popular character...
nevermore? or barathrum? for dota 1 at least
Its ironic since Pudge is basically like Thresh but hes monstrous zombie who's intestines stick out and his cosmetics reflect more his monstrous appearance and people still love him for his gameplay and personality
@@proteinflakes4688 Pudge is like Anub'arak, giant imposing behemoths you'd expect to be slow and lumbering tanks but they're silent assassins lol
@@CIAinTaiwanAndUkraine it's definitely pudge. Pudge is like the most memorable hero just from the design alone.
@@lick28 I see, perhaps dota2 shifted so much from dota1 I always see nevermore, barathrum, gondar, other pubstompers
I think why Rakan is getting praised when he was released is mainly we saw him not as 'individual', but as 'couple' with Xayah. I believe that there was no time that LOL release two champions at the same time with relation and I bet it will never happen again.
16:01 missed the opportunity to say "This is Thresh, and this is Trash".
The Gloomy Yordle girl is the most excitement I've felt in a while for a new champion.
She's not sexy, not happy go lucky...she's cute in her own way. I already love the concept.
More of this pls!
If somebody finds a way to play her in jgl, I just might.
>shes not sexy
Don't worry shortstack loving fan artists will be fixing that shortly.
Oversized sleeves
Go ad JG idk how just do it
I feel like looking back on elder wood Ornn is a great example of everyone still having an interest in monster champs. If monster champions are truly as unpopular at Riot says, then the skin sales would say otherwise. Elderwood Ornn raised more than $7 million in skin sales.
Overall, I did somewhat appreciate Riot bringing attention to this, seeing as how they actually are pretty good at taking feedback. I like that they are becoming more broad with how they define champion types. Instead of just having humans and monster, they also have humanoid characters like vastayans and human like animals. And I also like how riot says they want to shift their design more towards non humans champions in the future.
Riddle me this: Lillia skin when? No joke champions released at the same time or after have more than her. But hey guess she isn’t sexy enough for one.
@@draketurtle4169 well what luck, new Lillia skin now
@@bluebill7 wait really?
@@bluebill7 wait that’s her! That is her! Oh my yes
@@draketurtle4169 bruh
Simple: sex appeal. Riot's current staff are of a generation who don't understand abstract concepts like "appreciating a character"... they only know: If "fap" then "good design", if "no fap" then "rework".
Think of everything wrong with modern Hollywood movies (they behave and think like literal children, hijacking existing concepts and pretending they own them, thinking social media is an accurate reflection of real life) and put those problems into the games industry and you'll understand Riot's current game design direction.
Haha you think this is a generation thing? Like the young designers are the culprit? Oh boy let me tell you about management and marketing and how "creativity" works in indestry.
@@HOVNA Mate, I'm not talking about "sex sells", that's basic marketing a child can understand. I'm talking about the trend of taking existing properties (characters, franchises, etc.) and changing them into something "more acceptable" by giving them a "modern take"... It's not just a question of censorship and marketing; it's because a lot of the up and coming designers in entertainment as a whole are both impatient and creatively bankrupt, so they hijack someone else's work to use as a platform for what they want instead of building up their own work.
@@Thescott16 Eeeeh that's what has been happening since the beginning of time. Nothing is "original". Q
@@HOVNA Again, there's a difference between the overgeneralizing of ideas it takes to make that statement true (2nd guy who used a sword in fiction was "unoriginal"... sure, whatever) and literally taking an existing piece of work and changing it to suit themselves while pretending that it's still the unaltered original version.
@@Thescott16 But this is their intellectual property .. they are allowed to do that. It's just done by the marketing team not the designers. That's my point. You don't get to do what YOU want as artist in a huge company. You are there to do what sells. That's the problem. Not some weird "this generation" boomer shit
I like it how almost all of the champions who have something to do with death or dark stuff look creepy with the green smoke and stuff and then there is kindred . A floofball lamb and a smoke wolf perfect
Agree. That's just all I feel I can contribute. I really liked the breakdown of why people don't play champs and how it's silly to say that people don't like monsters when their kits make more sense than just the visual
I'm not excited for anything that League has going for it in the future. I'm fine with playing the game because I find it fun and all, but when it comes down to it there's no indication that Riot plans on stopping this homogenized anime design train anytime soon. Sure, Vex has had her champion trailer release and it's the first non-anime character we've had in a while (and her animations are pretty cool), but she feels like the Neeko in between Kai'Sa and Sylas, wherein we'll be getting more of the same later on anyway. If I wanted to play an anime game, I'd go play Danganronpa or Guilty Gear Strive, not League of Legends.
Until we see and hear her lines and more about her and lore hope.it's good since love yordles and overall her design does look rather interesting curious to see how they handle the shadow isles aspect of her character with the shadow and all
Weeell, to be perfectly fair, League of Legends HAS had anime influence right from the beginning, we've got dudes like
- Yi (proto Yasuo)
- Ezreal (who on release had weird 'whiskers' on his cheeks like Naruto for no reason)
- the Kinkou ninjas
- Sona (essentially Hatsune Miku ported into the game)
- Lux (created by Riot Shurelia, a huge fan of Touhou who made Lux as a reference to Kirisame Marisa of that game)
Admittedly they were in the minority at the time, but there was never any doubt that League did, in some degree, pander to weebs - and, in moderation, that's perfectly fine. What I can't stand is how Riot has completely lost any sense of perspective on what made their character design great to chase that weeb/K-pop stan dollar. Anime is not the enemy, the profit incentive is.
Even Danganronpa and GG Strive have much more diversity and REAL appeal in their character designs than current league
League always been anime looking game
@@OccuredJakub12 Oh GG Strive has some cool and distinct character designs.
9:55 HEY DON’T TOUCH MY BOY KAYN WHEN HE DO BE GETTING THAT RHAAST FORM
I would like to see the masked thresh with a more stream line design, let the lantern float around him with chains to give him his known bulk but let the actual body be more plated metal and chains
I'm just happy Vex got her announcement video today and though we already knew she was a yordle and she was planned from the start of S11 it's nice that she's not just a generic anime babe
I have no idea what Vex does but she’s already my favorite character in the game HANDS DOWN
She cool but I have some nitpicks
1) the shadow is not creepy enough
2) The milenial/gen z style of speech.
@@konradklukowski1009 i dont think the shadow is meant to be creepy at all lol. its supposed to be the "oh im edgy and sad but the shadow is my comical relief buddy" and crap like that. but yeah the way she talks is....uhhhh questionable
@@konradklukowski1009 I always understood that Yordles of a certain region are supposed to be a parody of that region. Poppy with demacia, Kled with Noxus, Veigar with Noxi, Kennen and Lulu (I dont know if the latter still cannon) with Ionia, Heimer with piltover.
PS: parody doesnt mean it have to be funny. It could be just a distortion of how something is percieved exagerating certain aspects of it.
@@konradklukowski1009 The *poorly executed* millennial/gen z style of speech.
I'm a zoomer and I find some of Vex's voicelines pretty grating. Character's ok, gameplay looks cancer but that's every League champion, ever... but the fact that she unironically says "normie" made me cringe out of this plane of existence.
When soraka's skins started coming out making her mostly human I was pissed
woopiedoo they removed the hoofs and horn wow what a crime against humanity.
@@rdogg114 ok but its not soraka anymore its just some basic human with magical powers at that point.
@@snowwolfwinter Its really not the same level of handsome thresh soraka was already very human looking beyond the horn and the hoofs its so hardly different i can barely tell with the actual ingame models.
I see the Spirit Blossom range as the champions being recruited to portray roles on a stage. Except combined with combat; so a lot like the Harlequin Eldar.
And both have that uncanny features about them that makes you feel like they are almost human but something is off with their facade.
i remember starting at wild rift. i bought a.sol because he looks so good, and i've been wanting a mid champion. later on i did realize im not good at him though. but it just to say, that as a casual gamer, you are absolutely correct, some of us don't always go to the cutie anime perfect character.
After watching the Wild Rift animation I am pretty sure the team from the contracted studio who made it was like "Dude, this fuck boy design is so boring! We really need to make some changes to make it a little bit better, especially his face."
I like your optimism but probably they changed it because people complained it about so much
'Hits boy band Thresh's face with a brick'
Animators: See, isn't that bette-
Everyone: YES.
@@alianlerol7962 Nope. Animation takes lots of time
@@Mike-no9zf Nope adding some lines to a models face without restructring it is very fucking easy because all the old animation you made for it still works
@@cin2110 the skin was released on 6 July, and the animation was released on 12 August, so they have about 1 month to 'fix' this. I don't think it's 'fucking easy' buddy
while the new characters being released are wack, the Reworks for characters generally are pretty good, Warwick, Fiddlesticks, and Volibear come to mind of how they made these old nintendo 64 lookin characters and made them some of the scariest, most fearsome looking champions.
Wait they made Mundo a himbo?
ah shi-
idk what are you talking about, this is the same with viego, mundo was always just a stupidly muscled purple himbo, the thing that made him look more monstery type was how old his model was
@@nechocat1234 No, it was the fact that, he was hunched over, had an extremely wide mouth, a disproportionate body, and single colored, unhuman eyes. Now he just looks like a chris hemsworth type painted purple
Mundo is supposed to be a distorted monster that looks (far from Human but he still is Human) design
Now he is just a generic 9ft body builder dude with purple skin and why not give him a fkin fade and fancy hair
@@Zero-zr6xx But let's get real, Nobody could really stand his old model, I'm grateful for the rework.
@@darthredd2224 Speak for yourself since I liked it
Whenever I think riot has finally learned from their mistakes they pull something unforgivable like this.
I’m gonna have to admit. I started League on Wild Rift, so I didn’t know how Thresh originally looked like. BUT HE ORIGINALLY LOOKED LIKE THAT?!! God now I’m extremely fuming, HE LOOKED ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! I dig that fiery chained skull look, 10/10 would become a Thresh main instantly if that was his actual default look on WR. And I don’t know anything about the characters much but from all of those glimpses I’ve seen in the vid, Kindred actually looks super interesting! And Aurelion by far is one of the best visually designed characters in the game for me. It’s really sad, I wish we get more of those monster enemies, because they’re gorgeous and they expand the world, with vast types of characters and creatures.
Instead of League’s version of Belle Delphine.
*It's more about the Chinese government then the citizens imo, I mean is not like they're allowed to have opinions in first place*
the censorship part, but the part that the anime guy looking charapter are WAY MORE POPULAR im there is fault of the people itself, and rito just is giving more and more and more anime looking things, and you can see the chinese infuense in lol, lor and wild rift, all reksai minions are terrafing and glorius monsters, all yordles are unique and even the anime guy looking charapters have some epic and cool features..... and in wildrifth even malphite look like anime golem
True.
When I see people 'fuck' something, it's always 'fuck China', NOT 'fuck the Chinese', which is a huge difference.
@@Lucitaur Yeah literally nobody even intends to say "fuck the Chinese people". I can't think of a single person who hates Chinese people, it's just the government and society they have that people hate.
@@bevvvy1374 you'd be surprised
@@iiiivvvv9986 No shit idiots that are the outliers exist. But vast majority of people aren't that stupid
Louis: (loses his cigar)
Graves: hmmm First time?
China when genocide: 😍😍😍
China when skull: 😱😱😱
I totally can't wait till they make Vel'koz a sexy guy character with tentacles and a purple six-pack.
You would say the same about xerath right given the fact that he doesnt look human at all but oh well here we are
I remember reading through some notes prior to WW's rework, and the team stated they did tropey stuff, but always tried to spin it in a way that makes the character stand out.
Hecarim isn't just a centaur or an undead knight, he's both; Gnar is a caveman, but he's also a furry and fuzzy little gnome-like creature that hulks out; Shen is a ninja, but he's designed as a tank, and brings some iconic ninja moves into an unexpected role to fill (he can dash, teleport, and strike hard with a blade, but these are played as tank moves).
I like Kayn, he's my favourite champion, because he actually answered two of my requests for a champion at the time: expanding the darkin lore (dk, always felt drawn to Aatrox, regardless of viability), and another ninja of the shadow order (was thinking more something unique like a mage trickster using shadows to cloak themselves, but not complaining).
His kit, while kinda bs on some points, was actually compelling to me.
Transforming tells a story, his mastery of shadow techniques allow him his free-moving W, more speed through walls and the full form of his version of Zed's death mark; Rhaast, meanwhile unleashes his blade, showing his Q's true power, a more ruthless W, and the ult mixed in with blood magic for a similar but new technique.
I also like that they went for a different path than the original, where the wielder was to be righteous. I really like that Kayn's a well-intentioned extremist at best, and a mentally-scarred psychopath at worst. And I love how his playstyle reflects both Kayn's and Rhaast's personality. Kayn is precise and cold-blooded, so his executes are fast as lightning, but he's not fond of battle. Meanwhile, Rhaast wants to keep the party going forever, so his approach is more blunt, his hits are ruthless and slower, and he heals himself to stay in the fight as long as possible.
I feel they shouid've just made him a dressed up more Ionian, maybe a loose shirt, under which he can hide his deformed arm. Nothing wrong with the darkin form, being monstrously crusty and all, and his shadow assassin form could've been Kayn fully clad in darkness (a bit like evelynn's stealth, but with blue highlights to make him stand out).
Sorry for the rant on Scythe boi, but I like the champion for every aspect except his sexy boy design, so I felt like sharing.
Yeah being a shirtless dude ruined it for me, maybe light attire suggesting he WAS a ninja before probably helps with hjis deformed arm either standing out or poorly hidden
I really like the way they made his new skin, they swapped the blue and red- tho I'm not entirely sure, it'd be very interesting if they made rhaast the lightbringer and kayn the nightbringer, the reason i think of this is because of the silhouettes of both forms despite swapping colors- the blue dawnbringer form having horns fits the standard "red rhaast" silhouette, the red form for nightbringer on the other hand has long hair which is a characteristic of default blue kayn... I could be wrong here but it'd be so cool if they made it this way
Also with kayn's undressed nature I think a semi-fit "chinese esque" clothes with a tear on the arm where rhaast resides is fitting since japanese clothes doesn't really fit him with him wielding a scythe, maybe a some armor to finish it off (?) I'm envisioning a look similar to a general from the "romance of the 3 kingdoms"... I'm so not used to imagining kayn with clothes on my head
@@yuhan4469 that could work.
The cut sleeve, btw, is a euphemism for gayness based on a tale were the emperor cut off his sleeve so his basically boyfriend could nap undisturbed.
not saying they could use it to imply Kayn is gay, but just thought of that anecdote and felt like sharing
as a Kayn main, i'm still confused why he doesn't wanna wear a fucking shirt. Odyssey Kayn, for me, is the best appearance of Kayn.
@@RuzYT don't know if that's still canon but his bio says he hate wearing Armor because he thinks it slows him down but yeah it's a lame excuses for to why he's walking around shirt less ,he could have worn a Ionian robe or dress like the rest of his comrades , Idk remember that any of the order of shadows go around shirt less, but my real complain is that he doesn't have the shadow tattoos on his body like zed does , all of the order students are supposed to carve this tattoos to get their shadow powers and kayn 's supposed to have zed's level of shadow mastery so why doesn't he has them on his body that's another problem with riots design philosophy not only do they make their champions dress as less as possible but they all have flawless skin without scars or at least cool tattoos like with sivir, sylas,irellia ,kai'sa , Riven , Ashe , Olaf I mean pantheon is also shirt less but the giant scar on his chest is a awesome visual story telling same with viego's hole in his chest (though I get sometimes confused as to why it's a triangle) , kalista' s Spears stuck in her back and Samira and akali and ryze has their tattoos and it's cool as well so I idk understand why riot thinks that just being shirtless without a scratch is appiling it's boring and does a poor job telling the characters story
In my opinion, out of all the generic sexy guy and sexy girl characters, Evelynn is the only champion that doesn't have an issue on being a sexy girl character. Sure, she's a demon so being a sexy girl isn't fitting for that theme, but if you read her lore, you'll know that she's a seductress, using her body as a way of pleasuring her victims before subjecting them into unbearable torment so she really needs that sexy girl body.
Yeah she's s succubus basically. So it makes sense for her. Leblanc is a manipulator, makes sense for her. Ahri was similar to evelyn so she's fine too. Like if you make a few champs that are focused on looks and flesh them out they make for decent and memorable characters.
It's fine to make champions attractive, especially champs whose purpose is seducing enemies (evelynn, ahri). But champs who are literal monsters (except evelynn) that are supposed to be scary? Why do they need to be anime eboys? Viego is a prince, and typical princes are hot. That makes sense. But he got ruined like Heca, Kalista and all that changed is his hair and skin color?
In other words, water is wet
Evelynn is basically a succubus, it fits her design perfectly. Especially because her demonic nature is on display when you play her
@@user-jc6ek5tg1o Void: Corrputs and distorts every living being
Kaisa: Haha hot void costume go brrrrr
Hugs from Brazil!
I just want to congratulate you on being so dynamic and entertaining during the whole video.
You know something I feel, deep down? That if Riot doesn't hire (yes, to work for them) popular names, influencers, and streamers that make this MASSIVE community move - they will, like a candle - get less and less popular, until eventually after numerous attempts from the competition, they will finally release a 5v5 MOBA that is more entertaining and doesn't fail in the same aspects as League.
For me, right now, Riot should populate their workforce with people who actually LOVES the game and not just people who have to achieve selling goals.
Imagine if they had big names such as Tobias Fate, Tyler1 and TFBlade forming a group, to share ideas?
... and not only limited to the most popular high elo players - also groups representing Gold/Plat/Diamonds as well, and using them to filter what the community really wants for the game,
Stonks.
Dota does a similar thing to what you mentioned, Chinese versions of the game have separate “low violence models” that subtly change character models. Wonder why riot doesn’t do something similar
as a thresh main I HATE the new skin. Also we need more monster champs in leage. god even a new nunu please! ANYTHING!
I really want like Zac's brother, a giant Muk tanky and clunky AF
that's his Canon look now not Skin, just as a Skin in Game, and don't even think they make him use the Skull Form even Again.
I like humans champ but not like this it's so boring seeing a mens abs every day i hate it and seeing women's full of suit. So this is how riot gives us a champ that we don't like i hate this so much
*I do have an idea for school girl Reksai but it would keep her as monster but with horned lines, I do like my character design ideas even if I don't have the skills to actually draw and present my vision, but I can go from waifu to cosmic horror or something hybrid yet disturbing*
Just reksai in a schoolgirl uniform and a red wig
@@JhuanVSales *I won't put a wig but actual hair, yeah the uniform is the generic sailor like uniform BUTT, I have a lot of references 'n inspirations from famous horror authors and OCs to make her more void like then just any generic H doujin monster girl with gore tag, my idea is to keep her as Rek'Sai butt give her this japanese horror like style*
My idea is something like a "Pageant Queen Rek'sai" where it's just Rek'sai wearing a glamorous gown with glitter all over her skin and a tiara, maybe put in some cutesy blush over there. Maybe her splash art is her being presented by a scepter and tiara for winning a Beauty Pageant with other sexy and cute girl characters (prolly Lux and Qiyana) looking at her in shock and disgust respectively, like they are surprised that this monster won the crown over them.
I want lady rek'sai Basicly rek'sai in a dress and sunhat.
@@chaotik900 *I want to sexualize her but keep her monster form*
Skarner is so skarner that he didn’t even talk about him in the monster champs part
I vibe with this whole video so much. Thresh was the first support I ever picked up because he was an awesome skeleton monster with a massive hook and lantern! Kindred is my all time favorite champion because of her lore, I have now played more games on her then anyone else. Yes she was niche, yes that made it harder at first, but I pushed through because her design was fantastic! I tried playing A-Sol, (Because I loved his concept) but had to give up because he is SO NICHE!!! I still think he is an awesome champ, just wish I could casually play him Instead of playing him for months just to understand his mechanics.
Legitimately, just censoring for China. I would be LIVID if this was his default skin in League
Check out wild rift ....there it is his base skin.
wild rift was really made for china and they have strict censorship laws there so they had choose between adding a skin as default in wildrift or not adding him at all
@@jamesthesmart2971 Cope.
@@theimmortaleye7511 Good thing I don’t play that.
@@catzor4795 I don’t like unbound thresh either but the dudes right. In China skulls in games are illegal and threshes face was just that. And he’s right about it being focused for China too. As Nickyboy said the main league audience is in Asia. Mobile gaming is just insanely big there compared to here.
for me, monster champions have the most potential kit than a sexy anime character. They can design a monster champion and give them a simple kit like Sett's or they can keep doing their current route and make each one hard/weird to use.
they can have more freedom in the visual design aspect and just go crazy with it. like in Killer Instinct how Aganos is an amazing character design and playstyle wise.
All ik is that Unbound Thresh feels ridiculous to me and kinda ruins the character appeal if they push it as his main skin
13:05 Yo, speaking of Rammus. I wonder if riot would change him to scale more with armor like Taric. Or give him ad so lethality Rammus can be a thing.
I played League predominantly in 2012-2014 and then stopped, and when I came back and saw my main Swain had gotten a rework visual overhaul I was SO SO MAD. Old Swain design was fun cuz he looked kinda like shit ngl! It was endearing that he looked a little jacked up. But the second I came back and saw what his skins looked like now it was so OBVIOUS this redesign was to make him ~sexy~ esp considering I remember being teased with Dragon Master Swain all the way back then, only to come back and see it was given to him after he got his sexy overhaul. So I really love this vid and your point on how Riot is just washing everything in it with Sexy Appeal nowadays because youre so right
12:34 Exactly my first thought when i read that BS. Yes, blame the champions for not being appealing when their kit is designed for a niche group or is just a clumsy mess from 5y+ ago that wasn't ever addressed properly.
Then riot goes and say "But uhhh... X champion isn't a creature, it's a humanoid character, that's why it's played more" yet, surprise surprise, Kha'Zix (the straight up grasshopper/mantis yet they'll likely deny saying he's a humanoid because he's biped) is as popular as Lee Sin, and he is one of the few exceptions of monsters that has a non-niche kit.
How silly i am to think Skarner isn't played because he's a scorpion and not because his kit is straight forward and predictable, with an R that doesn't synergyze with the other skills and has a passive that is a full minigame that can make or break him in the match.
Riot is just fucking stupid but when it comes to the reasoning behind their actions. It's always correlation and not causation with them. "this champ has a high win rate so let's nerf them." or "this gamemode isn't popular enough so we're removing it". They never EVER stop and think WHY these things are the way they are.
@@bevvvy1374 If you ever played Legends of Runeterra, do you remember this spring when almost the entire community was raving mad with the Irelia release because of her absolutely bullsht synergy with Azir? Remember how Riot handed over minimal nerfs to cards that were not even win conditions for the deck and tried to shove down our throats that the deck was good, even to the point they explicitly claimed that they liked its play pattern? Or in League of Legends when they "killed" Samira after months of her terrorizing botlane and they just said that "while the champion is balanced, some may find parts of her kit frustrating on lower ELOs" which was basically a nice way of saying "the champ is fine and you guys are bad, we'll still nerf her but shame on you for asking us to nerf her". Or the entire reason behind the existence of the 200 years meme?
@@tehrik0020 Not sure what your point is my guy
@@bevvvy1374 Simple, my point is that it's known for Riot to actually ignore community feedback and just do improper number crunching when it comes to issues.
Amazing and smooth transitioning through topics, glued together by a banger script and solid meme sound effects in good ratio. GOLDEN CONTENT
Unbound Thresh is really smart putting in Wildrift, because when I played Wildrift and played Thresh because he is my main in PC,
It forced me to buy a skin so i won't have to look at that shit wreck
hey man I love the video, I dont see many people talking about this so thank you.
Doing the topic of Chinese censorship justice without letting it devolve into something dumb and toxic is really important.
I'm straight as fuck yet I find base skin thresh more attractive than Unbound Thresh.
Why?
He's DIFFERENT.
I had a small thing when I started league . You could kinda tell by looking at a champ's physique how tanky they are. It made it easier to pick up the game, and 9 out of 10 times, it fits . The only exceptions are Amumu, Mini Gnar and Shen. For this reason, on day one of looking at Thresh I could already tell "He is tanky and will make me suffer in some way". Turns out I exaggerated on the second one, he just CC's you into oblivion.
Look at Unbound Thresh for a second by this logic. He looks like a fighter or a bruiser. What the fuck riot?
Well he is squishy af in wildrift
@@Traesto good, he deserves to be since he has the unbound thresh skin...
@@tenritniehtnoyugmodnar5661 ye exactly
I think unbound thresh looks ugly because it just is. i like human champions i think they are versatile and relatable but this one is just ugly
Then there is sett...
Really liked this video. When SB Kindred and Thresh were first shown I told friends I was worried future monster champ skins would be turned to generic e-boys and girls and they thought I was nuts, and as it gets proven more and more I am glad more people than just me care.
The new Karthus pentakill skin doesn't remotely ressemble the previous skin. Every new skin he looks younger and alive like Thresh/Viego. I don't know what to expect from Udyr now, I also think about other characters like Shaco, if he ever gets updated I think they'll make him look like a anime boy harley quinn without a mask and the hat is going to be his dyed hair.
As a Chinese player who lived in Canada for 9 years, I think I might have something to put on this matter.
So first thing first, the entire censorship thing is complicated but not that complicated, as the video mentioned, Chinese have some culture value that are different from western countries. One of those is education of children, Chinese take it VERY seriously, anything that are potentially bad for kids are often being banned or censored. Since China doesn't have any form of age rating on almost anything related to electronic entertainment, the review process of a videogame is to check either its suitable for all ages or not, at the government end at least. And the government LOVES to listen to parents (outdated) opinions on videogames. Blood and skulls are bad bad for kids, so no no in videogames. The review process is long and often a new product needs to take multiple attempts to get though the review, not to mention that Chinese government recently taking a excessive measure on limiting new videogames releases for unknown reason. Because of that, videogame companies in China learned to make it EXTRA safe in terms of getting a new product through the review process. Which leads to the second point, how the f they decide to redesign Thresh into that thing...
The second point is, you need to understand that China is a big country just being developed in recent few decades. There are vast population with completely different levels of education, which also includes art education, mostly being disregarded as a useless class because it doesn't provide much face value on practicality. For example, when I was in elementary school, art class would most likely be replaced by math or Chinese class from time to time. That being said, the majority of young generations of Chinese people are pretty good at academic, but not that great on art or being a good esthetician. When it comes to aesthetics, people often resorts on it looks good or ugly based on their instinct to decide weather its good or bad. put it in a simple way, beauty/sexy/handsome = good aesthetics on humanoid characters. That might be the reason why Thresh are turned from an abomination into another abomination... in a way.
8:19 welp look at Vladimir now
You came here after they revealed Vladmir in WR too?
Wait until he sees Brand's new splash art.
The best thing the cinematic did for Unbound Thresh (aside from canonically implying it's just a facade to appeal to his victims) is that it's that it gives a better explaination to what it means for him to be "Unbound".
He isn't unbound from his monster form, or unbound from his inhumanity, but rather he is unbound from the shadow isles and it's short reach. Thresh is now free to go wherever and do whatever, and no one will know who he is unless they are sentinels. And the possibility of Thresh joining the Black Rose is just... mwah chef's kiss.
I feel like if you were to go with the idea of "Thresh but at the height of his power when he was alive", i would probably have gone even further by showing that even before he died it was hard to tell if he could be called "alive". Sort of like a mix of Viktor and Xerath in the sense that he's covered by plating and mechanisms that exists partly to optimize his ability to use his powers, and partly just to hold him together. The head spikes are still there but visibly jointed and moving, the chains still lead into ornamental screaming maws, but now they visibly enter him into him and lead into a winch of some kind in his ribs. You take one look at him and wonder not if he can be classifiable as human, but if he could EVER have been so because every bit of him is custom-made to cause as much agony and dread as possible without making it difficult to do his job, and then look at his lore and realize this wasn't an emergency like Urgot or Sion, a sick experiment like Mundo, or for the sake of progress like Viktor.
He did this because he could. The only necessity to doing this to himself WAS to be better at killing. The cruelty IS his reason.
Don't you dare call ma boi Swain ugly. He is the embodiment of the Giga-Chad attitude.
Honestly, they could've just done what they did with Karthus. Remember how in Karthus' update he was changed from Spooky Skull Lichman, to Spooky NoSkull Lichman? He did not become an Anime E-Boy, He stayed true to the Character and the Colours of the Shadow Isles.
Personally I've always loved the "monster" champs. Even when I first started on league ww, cho, Rengar, Velkoz, Asol, all of them caught my attention just cause they were a bit different then the other champs. While I've played lux, Leona, and kayn they never keep me coming back after I play them. But there's always something about champs like Malph, Mundo, Nasus, Ornn that always keep me engaged and wanting more. I think it doesn't help the anime members of the cast that I joined right after sett got released and so every single champ I've ever seen come out has just been along the same style. I'm really looking forward to vex as we'll be getting another yortle after 5 years. Hope maybe we'll get more of that Golden Age again one day. Love the vid Nicky, was well worth the wait
Bard is not only my favorite design but hes also the most fun I ever had in the game
My first vid of yours, first thoughts "it's discount its a gundam" good video btw
Okay but let's also not forget the Thresh design from the Ruined King game exists which was fucking SICK and mostly armor instead of bone and skulls
bones and skulls still fits thresh as a chain warden
It's not the first time Riot buries the identity of a character I enjoy, so I'm not so surprised anymore. They did that with Aatrox, not visually, but gameplaywise it's a whole new character, also they changed his personality completely, I was really fond of old Aatrox's character, but now he is gone and will never comeback.
Aatrox is litterly the first champion that riot has completely deleted from the game sadly (1st champ i ever played gone forever but never forgotten)
@@junipang8028 Sion...
I feel your pain. The only character that i really knew how to play and really had the care to buy all skins and chromas is gone forever.
Sexy Ivern is coming Nicky. *There is no escape.*
Dear god
Remember when Taliyah was supposed to be canonically trans, but riot figured the community was too toxic to not turn that into a huge joke? I do. Still breaks my heart
I mean, even if they _did_ make that canon and community would've taken it well, they'd probably retcon it by now.
Glad she isn't though
@@dLzzzgaming glad they released ksante as a canonically openly-gay man, so its only a matter of time before they release a trans character
@@EvanMstr or a bipolar character, that could be cool too
@@EvanMstr "a matter of time"
_The year is 2378, Leauge of Legends 7 has finally received the first trans character in leauge history. (It's still a generic hot anime person like the last 400 Leauge champions)_
7:02 FATALITY
can't wait to see Nasus, Renekton and Azir to get the Xerath love!!
I’ll admit, it bothers me greatly that Riot has even come out and said they’re not going to try to make even at least one monster champion a year. I think you summarized it perfectly though; Riot intentionally makes their kits niche. Looking at Asol, who I still think has the best champ design + lore on the game, but who’s kit has such a high skill floor that he literally is only played effectively by Diamond+ players…and like, 5 of them
Im glad it was not just me that started to notice this, I thought I was going mad. That and how we had a line of champions based on copying other champions appearances and or abilities with mimic or stolen abilities
Thresh is my current favorite to play as in Wild Rift. But I feel once "Karthus" gets there that will change 😉😁
This is true. I was an Asol main on release but after they nerfed him to death, he is unplayable and Asol never recovered because that's how Riot wants it to be.
They did the same thing to Vel'Koz. When he released, he was a perfectly balanced champion. He didn't do well against assassins but had a good pairing against other mages and did well at farming lane safely (His one advantage against dive assassins.) He had weaknesses, he had strengths, and for the most part was relatively easy to pick up and play (outside of maybe his Q.) Then came the nerf bat to his AP scaling on his W, mana regen, and they made him over-rely on his passive/ult. That effectively killed the champion outright and made him unplayable. Even after they fixed some of his scaling problems, he is still hardly touched because of the bad PR that he had over the years from that nerf. Had Riot just done the old "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" then characters like Vel'Koz and A-Sol would have been staples for mid-lane mages.
all the champions I play are monsters and I've been waiting to get another monster champ for yearsss now
that part when you said kayle's design was the most ''mobile game design'' -- FUCKING FINALLY someone else said it lmaooo i remember arguing with my sister about this 2 years ago
As a wild rift player, I can tell you I have never bought a skin as fast as I did with pulsefire thresh, I was expecting a dope skeleton man, and got gross anime guy. Pain