As a Porsche owner ( Same car 11 years now) I feel qualified to comment. Your 'dealer' service prices are extortionate, once your warranty is over go independent. Warranties, I personally didn't bother, I've probably saved £18k. Look at warrantywise accounts on companies house, you will be surprised at their margins ( they are enormous). As for 'N' rates tyres. Don't get me started. Good vid though.
Interesting commentary on prices in the UK. Porsches are not cheap to maintain, and here in the USA it is no different. I recently had an oil change done on my 2017 911 Carrera, which cost $530. Most of that cost was in labor. Major service was well over $1000. Despite the cost, I can’t think of anything else that I enjoy driving more. Thanks.
Think of it this way - you will be able to sell the GT4 for about the same or perhaps even more than you paid for it. Whereas a BMW will half in value over three years. However, the pricing for that service is extortion. The parts are cheap as is the oil and the brake fluid. You are in effect being hit up for dealer overheads and ridiculous hourly rates - argue with your dealer.
You'd have to be a right nitwit to not buy a car because you'd let an independent or specialist service a car. I'd sooner a specialist do it, I'd trust them far more than a main dealer.
Haha thank you mate! Clearly not been driving the car hard enough on the fronts 😅 Ps, there’s an edit comment button if you press the 3 dots. Saves yourself adding another comment 😉
Do you struggle with ground clearance, speed bumps etc? Where I live there’s loads of them, along with pot holes, just wondering how “practical” it will be everyday as a replacement for my m2c. Great vid btw, very useful info
Hi ! Min. 3:50, paused the vid.., why would you sell the Gt4 in the future, and what would be an at least equally fun replacement for it ??! 🤔😀 Regards and keep it up !!
I like the video. Very insightful but you pose the question, what is the MPG and answer a different question, how much does it cost on fuel a week. With no idea how far the super market or your work is from your home it’s impossible to figure that out. What is your MPG since we now know your weekly pattern?
1600 is actually not too bad for a major service, considering its a flat 6 with 6 sets of spark plug and coils to be changed. Do you know any difference in major/minor service cost for the 4.0 gts (compared to gt4)?
Wondering what was meant by Air conditioning filter change, was it just the carbon cabin filter or the filter drier in the air conditioning system? If it’s the latter then unless you have had a refrigerant leak then the filter drier should be fine for many years, in fact the refrigerant shouldn't need "changing" the key is to use the A/C every few months to lubricate the shaft on the compressor, this keeps the system sealed. 20 years in the industry and certain garages still try it on. 👍
Nice format/edit mate. Interesting to hear about your running costs. Your tyres have lasted really well especially given the track day, legal limit is 1.6mm. P.s. I’m glad you don’t think 30 is old 😅
Is it a good idea to have different tyres front to rear? I know you have to keep the same tyres on each axle but I’m not sure I would mix them up like that.
My 2017 Macan gts 4 year major was £1,500 but also needed brake pads and disks £2,500 + tyres £1,200 £5k all in! Worth noting that Porsche will happily spread the cost over 6/9 months with 0% interest. Oh and another £1k a year for official extended Warrenty…😂
1.6 mm is the legal minimum, across the central 3/4 of the tyre, which is about the thickness of the dotted shoulder of a 10p piece. For winter driving 3 mm is usually recommended as the minimum. All this is way outside of issues and parameters of sports car tyres, their use, winter/summer, track/road and so on. I am very disappointed to hear that 5 OPCs quoted 5 different servicing costs- I understood it was all fixed price servicing these days. All a bit Kwik-Fit nowadays, it seems.
Don’t worries in Italy is worse than UK. We pay a car property tax just because we own a car (can you imagine how silly is?) and on top of that we pay an extra tax if our car overtake 250hp (considered as a super car from the government) and is so expansive cause you pay an extra tax for any single hp more than 250hp. So to make it simpler for a Porsche Cayman gt4 you should pay 3.570€!
Great video, although the first two minutes were perhaps a little bit too much waffle. Would love to know what the Porsche dealer would give you for the car for an idea re depreciation.
These prices are just crazy. Material for mayor service is 350-400€ at best, everything else is labor. To to the mayor service, it takes about 3-5h for an experienced mechanic. But ofcourse, while the car is under warranty, it's best to do service at official dealer, once this is over, find someone to do it for half a price, you just make sure to document everything. Good video!
Admittedly I would do it myself with a GT4 but legally you can do all of your own services with any car even new and as long as it’s documented it’s legal and it still qualifies under most manufacturers warranty. But with that kind of car they are locking you into the warranty and the actual chances of anything happening with the actual parts you can claim against is very slim. Though technically you have paid for them upfront if you do. I would personally look for a specialist reputable company that can look after your car, if it’s short term ownership carry on with dealership but if it’s long term 5 years more go specialist.
Hi Will. Michelin 4s sounds like a good shout. I’ve got cup 2s and they are certainly spicy when cold. We’re off to the Swiss alps so new rubber it is. My warranty extension was 750 for 12 months from Porsche so it may be cheaper than you thought .
Likewise mate, we’re doing the alps in summer too. Let me know how it goes. And good to know on the warranty front, definitely worth shopping around again too
Very happy with 4S tyres on mine. Great all round tyres and very impressed with how they handled Nurburgring too. Wont be going back to cup2s even though they’re a very good tyre 👍
You can't buy a GT4 on a budget. Bottom line is if we buying sports cars we should be able to afford it. Finally do your homework which you did. Great work.
Thanks for sharing the detail Will. It would've been interesting to convert those costs plus the repayment (loan etc if you have one) in to a monthly figure. I suspect when you see it in black and white it's quite astonishing what we pay for our hobbies! Still what a lovely looking car. Cheers, Kevin
A great video...had to laugh so hard when you talked about the potholes. I dare you to come to Missouri. Our potholes are so wide and deep that your GT4 fits in it. It's a challenge to NOT hit them by going down the road))
Good informative video. Road tax is no more. It's VED and it's based on emissions and not sorely on the price of the car. Your £550 is for for the first 3-5 years? Then it falls back to whatever emissions group your car is in
Thanks Wyn. Just double checked the Gov.uk website. Still £570 for cars over £40,000 list price (until after 5 years old). The emissions price is only for the first 12 months from new: www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables Edit: you’re referring to cars made between 2001 and 2017. Mine is a 2019 registered car, therefore isn’t taxed via its emissions output
If you do the service yourself you can do it for 100 quid! Read the manual, get some tools and you will be good to go. No need to change brake fluid every 2 years, air filters, oilfilters and oil is cheap compared to a new engine! Change oil/filter every year and you can own the car your entire life with ease.
Its very easy! Run the car for 15 min, loosen oil plug, drain old oil, retighten oil plug, fill in new oil, put in new oil filter and you are good to go!@@georgepotcovaru2595
I don't trust anyone servicing my car and I enjoy do it myself. Peace of mine knowing that it was done correctly and most often times with better parts. The money saved will make up for the lack of service history if I ever decide to sell my 2022 Cayman GTS. Plus I keep all my receipts from local Porsche parts department to prove I actually did the services. The tire issue will be interesting since this is my first non squared tire setup. Thanks for sharing
As a Porsche owner ( Same car 11 years now) I feel qualified to comment. Your 'dealer' service prices are extortionate, once your warranty is over go independent. Warranties, I personally didn't bother, I've probably saved £18k. Look at warrantywise accounts on companies house, you will be surprised at their margins ( they are enormous). As for 'N' rates tyres. Don't get me started. Good vid though.
Interesting commentary on prices in the UK. Porsches are not cheap to maintain, and here in the USA it is no different. I recently had an oil change done on my 2017 911 Carrera, which cost $530. Most of that cost was in labor. Major service was well over $1000. Despite the cost, I can’t think of anything else that I enjoy driving more. Thanks.
Interesting to hear the US costs over there too, but we do it for what we love!
Think of it this way - you will be able to sell the GT4 for about the same or perhaps even more than you paid for it. Whereas a BMW will half in value over three years. However, the pricing for that service is extortion. The parts are cheap as is the oil and the brake fluid. You are in effect being hit up for dealer overheads and ridiculous hourly rates - argue with your dealer.
I guess being mid engined doesn’t help. They’d need to remove all the lining and then isn’t as easily accessible as a front engined car 🤷🏻♂️
Which fuel are you using in the gt4
Finally someone who doesn't brush away an absolutely legitimate question with "if you're worried about running costs, ..."
why wasn't mine fitted with a 75L tank???
You'd have to be a right nitwit to not buy a car because you'd let an independent or specialist service a car. I'd sooner a specialist do it, I'd trust them far more than a main dealer.
Another great video mate, amazing the spread in cost between dealers! Always worth shopping around as you did 👌
PS - 30 isn't old 😉
PPS - 5mm on Cup 2's is amazing, they're no more than 6mm brand new! 1.6mm is UK legal requirement.
Haha thank you mate!
Clearly not been driving the car hard enough on the fronts 😅
Ps, there’s an edit comment button if you press the 3 dots. Saves yourself adding another comment 😉
I'm the guy who bought your old valve controller - great videos - keep up the great work. Really helpful.
Ah amazing mate!
Hope you’re enjoying it!
I went and bought another one last week 😂
Do you struggle with ground clearance, speed bumps etc? Where I live there’s loads of them, along with pot holes, just wondering how “practical” it will be everyday as a replacement for my m2c. Great vid btw, very useful info
Hi ! Min. 3:50, paused the vid.., why would you sell the Gt4 in the future, and what would be an at least equally fun replacement for it ??! 🤔😀 Regards and keep it up !!
I like the video. Very insightful but you pose the question, what is the MPG and answer a different question, how much does it cost on fuel a week. With no idea how far the super market or your work is from your home it’s impossible to figure that out. What is your MPG since we now know your weekly pattern?
I get about 23mpg and 30 on a motorway run
1600 is actually not too bad for a major service, considering its a flat 6 with 6 sets of spark plug and coils to be changed. Do you know any difference in major/minor service cost for the 4.0 gts (compared to gt4)?
The pollen and cabin filters are super easy to replace, you can do it yourself, no tools required.
Good point! Maybe something I’ll do in between services.
But need that OPC stamp of approval for the main ones
I can’t imagine making a car over 150,000 USD as a daily. Definitely levels to wealth.
Or too poor to afford another car 😂
Is the cost of ownership for a GTS 4.0 a bit cheaper than a GT4 since the GT4 has more specialized track parts?
Can you get a monthly service plan through Porsche and spread out that 2k or does it have to be in one hit ?
What prevents you from saving these monthly payments yourself via bank deposits?
Wondering what was meant by Air conditioning filter change, was it just the carbon cabin filter or the filter drier in the air conditioning system? If it’s the latter then unless you have had a refrigerant leak then the filter drier should be fine for many years, in fact the refrigerant shouldn't need "changing" the key is to use the A/C every few months to lubricate the shaft on the compressor, this keeps the system sealed.
20 years in the industry and certain garages still try it on. 👍
Nice format/edit mate. Interesting to hear about your running costs. Your tyres have lasted really well especially given the track day, legal limit is 1.6mm.
P.s. I’m glad you don’t think 30 is old 😅
Thank you mate.
Don’t think we drove hard enough at Bedford 🥲 but good to know I can save a few quid & just change the rears
Is it a good idea to have different tyres front to rear? I know you have to keep the same tyres on each axle but I’m not sure I would mix them up like that.
I meant swapping to 4S if all 4 need doing, or swapping to cups if only the rears need doing
Hi mate perfect video, on another note not related to video what purple iPhone cover you got any idea of brand . Thanks keep up good work
Thank you dude!
It’s the TORRAS ultra thin case on Amazon
Thank you much appreciated
Hi mate any idea what the service cost is for a cayane coupe
How much is your finance per month
My 2017 Macan gts 4 year major was £1,500 but also needed brake pads and disks £2,500 + tyres £1,200 £5k all in! Worth noting that Porsche will happily spread the cost over 6/9 months with 0% interest. Oh and another £1k a year for official extended Warrenty…😂
Ouch….!!! 🥹🥹 that hurts but good to know about the 0% finance
1.6 mm is the legal minimum, across the central 3/4 of the tyre, which is about the thickness of the dotted shoulder of a 10p piece. For winter driving 3 mm is usually recommended as the minimum. All this is way outside of issues and parameters of sports car tyres, their use, winter/summer, track/road and so on. I am very disappointed to hear that 5 OPCs quoted 5 different servicing costs- I understood it was all fixed price servicing these days. All a bit Kwik-Fit nowadays, it seems.
Don’t worries in Italy is worse than UK. We pay a car property tax just because we own a car (can you imagine how silly is?) and on top of that we pay an extra tax if our car overtake 250hp (considered as a super car from the government) and is so expansive cause you pay an extra tax for any single hp more than 250hp. So to make it simpler for a Porsche Cayman gt4 you should pay 3.570€!
Great video, although the first two minutes were perhaps a little bit too much waffle. Would love to know what the Porsche dealer would give you for the car for an idea re depreciation.
These prices are just crazy. Material for mayor service is 350-400€ at best, everything else is labor. To to the mayor service, it takes about 3-5h for an experienced mechanic. But ofcourse, while the car is under warranty, it's best to do service at official dealer, once this is over, find someone to do it for half a price, you just make sure to document everything. Good video!
One of your best vids ever!
Good evening from the UK! 😎
😂 thanks dude!
Evening from the netherlands. Are you going to test the gt4 out this year on the ring?
Evening Kevin! 🙋🏻♂️
Nothing planned this year. But never say never
Admittedly I would do it myself with a GT4 but legally you can do all of your own services with any car even new and as long as it’s documented it’s legal and it still qualifies under most manufacturers warranty.
But with that kind of car they are locking you into the warranty and the actual chances of anything happening with the actual parts you can claim against is very slim. Though technically you have paid for them upfront if you do.
I would personally look for a specialist reputable company that can look after your car, if it’s short term ownership carry on with dealership but if it’s long term 5 years more go specialist.
The oil's fluids and filters do not cost much more if any at all than most new cars today ' so it's a joke the price dealers charge
Hi Will. Michelin 4s sounds like a good shout. I’ve got cup 2s and they are certainly spicy when cold. We’re off to the Swiss alps so new rubber it is. My warranty extension was 750 for 12 months from Porsche so it may be cheaper than you thought .
Likewise mate, we’re doing the alps in summer too. Let me know how it goes.
And good to know on the warranty front, definitely worth shopping around again too
Very happy with 4S tyres on mine. Great all round tyres and very impressed with how they handled Nurburgring too. Wont be going back to cup2s even though they’re a very good tyre 👍
You can't buy a GT4 on a budget. Bottom line is if we buying sports cars we should be able to afford it. Finally do your homework which you did. Great work.
Good video Will, at least I know I can’t get a GT4 now because I don’t trust main dealers 😆
Hahaha thanks mate! 😅
If you think thats exp , swedish opc prices are crazzzzzyyyy!
Thanks for sharing the detail Will. It would've been interesting to convert those costs plus the repayment (loan etc if you have one) in to a monthly figure. I suspect when you see it in black and white it's quite astonishing what we pay for our hobbies! Still what a lovely looking car. Cheers, Kevin
Thanks Kevin, appreciate the feedback
@@MrHCars Given what is coming out of the grapevine on the future of the GT4 you might want to hold on to it for a bit??? See - G6GXM channel
A great video...had to laugh so hard when you talked about the potholes. I dare you to come to Missouri. Our potholes are so wide and deep that your GT4 fits in it. It's a challenge to NOT hit them by going down the road))
Ha that would be the dream, to take the gt4 abroad! Challenge accepted when that happens one day 😂
@@MrHCars ....Absolutely) ....will have a couple of dedicated Porsche pothole drivers waiting for you!
Great video mate. I also had an M2 before 😂
Now got a 718 Boxster GTS, just had major service, came in at £1260 at Porsche perth
Haha the perfect upgrade!
Enjoy 👊🏼
Good informative video. Road tax is no more. It's VED and it's based on emissions and not sorely on the price of the car. Your £550 is for for the first 3-5 years? Then it falls back to whatever emissions group your car is in
Thanks Wyn.
Just double checked the Gov.uk website. Still £570 for cars over £40,000 list price (until after 5 years old).
The emissions price is only for the first 12 months from new:
www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables
Edit: you’re referring to cars made between 2001 and 2017. Mine is a 2019 registered car, therefore isn’t taxed via its emissions output
theres always one
If you do the service yourself you can do it for 100 quid! Read the manual, get some tools and you will be good to go. No need to change brake fluid every 2 years, air filters, oilfilters and oil is cheap compared to a new engine! Change oil/filter every year and you can own the car your entire life with ease.
Hi ! Have you done the servicing yourself and isn't that complicate ? Would love to know it's not that much of fuss ! Regards !
Its very easy! Run the car for 15 min, loosen oil plug, drain old oil, retighten oil plug, fill in new oil, put in new oil filter and you are good to go!@@georgepotcovaru2595
Rpm Teknik are fine everyone knows their name and reputation
Youf car looks amazing man!😎
Thank you dude 👊🏼
I don't trust anyone servicing my car and I enjoy do it myself. Peace of mine knowing that it was done correctly and most often times with better parts. The money saved will make up for the lack of service history if I ever decide to sell my 2022 Cayman GTS. Plus I keep all my receipts from local Porsche parts department to prove I actually did the services. The tire issue will be interesting since this is my first non squared tire setup. Thanks for sharing
Great vid - thanks.
very interesting. thanks for sharing.
Really good video and information 👌
Ah thank you mate 👊🏼
We are soon entering winter😢lovely car,wish i could afford one ,regards from NZ
NZ, mental!!
It’ll be amazing when summer comes again! 😎
At 5:33 he finally says it
I simply cannot afford a car like this 😂😂
So a grand for 50 pounds worth of oil and a thirty quid oil and air filter 🤣
🤔You obviously make a Lot of money very easily , or you’d not waste that way .
Cheers
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Don’t think there’s much to compete with here on this channel tho dude 😂
The fk! My i30N and I’ve got 10 years no claims I’m 30 and it’s 1k a year insurance 🥹