They will slober also known as wet stacking when they idle alot. Usually kicking it up to higher rpms will clear it out. It will do it more in cold weather than hot weather. Nice job on her!
I have binge watched this series . I enjoyed it and was disappointed when it ended . You have given me a lesson in patience and perseverance with this project
The reason you're seeing that black oily soot on exhaust is called wet stacking. Just keep putting a lot of loads on it an the wet stacki,g will stop try not to idle it a lot of needs a load on it
Put wheel weights on your tractor for tillage work. These 861's had plenty of engine power but were known by customers and dealers to be light in weight. All the vintage training films from the old Ford Tractor company displayed these tractors with rear wheel weights. Also, the additional weights would help the tractor not to jackknife on hillsides while attached to implements such as pull type combines or hay balers. I speak from experience as we had both an 860 and an 861 on our hillside farm in southwestern Wisconsin. I enjoyed your presentation immensely as it brought back the many memories of operating our Ford tractors while growing up as a youth! Looking forward to your additional videos on vintage Ford tractors.
I would find wheel weights before adding additives/calcium to the rear tires. The rot in the wheels these chemicals cause is not worth it. You did a fantastic job!
Great job on that resto looks and sounds beautiful. I have a 61 4000 and i found a set of full pie weights and restord them to help with useing a seven foot box blade to level some of my land here in vermont. Worked great. Also have a new to me 58 861 with snow plow to take some of the of the pressure off of the 4000 for snow removal. The 861 has beet juice in the rears for traction. Both tractors have full sets of chains. You can get into trouble with pie weights on hilly terrain,. Loaded rear tires, if done right are better for center of gravity. Loved your vids, take mama out for dinner and celebrate! Warren in Vermont.
Agree on the loaded tires, and figger out what's up with that PTO. But fantastic job, looks like it runs fantastically and great power and torque there! Appears to be breaking in and the smoke is getting better. A semi-mounted style plow that pulls from the 3 pt and lifts the rear end with a hydraulic cylinder over a ingle tire seems like it would be a great option.
I use Kubotas now, but grew up farming with Fords of that size. We always had fluid in the tires; we use fluid and wheel weights now. To plow, swap rear tires for narrow tread, front is adjustable. To "layout" the beginning set your plow even then adjust to compensate once you have a good furrow. My brother drives 9000 John Deeres, but still uses a couple of old Fords because he loves them 600 and 601.
Wow love it , Iwork with one in 70's and it ad power , the plow was just 2 bottom and it could andel A 3 B but rear wheel are not aline with the front , you got tund them closer to fender .
Dang man! real nice. it pulls that chiesel nice too... your obsession is now mine! I'm actively trying to find a Narrow front lol. LP would be sweet. If you load the tires. Run beet juice it's next too free in price and doesn't corrode the rims. Where are your lights at?! lol. P.s cherish the memories you have of your Grandpa's '801 with the Sherman backhoe. Thems be getting up there in collectability and price..That'd be one heckva restoration!
I started plowing and disking at 9 years old on a Select O Speed 800. Dad had 2. With front and rear weights the front would be in the air at times. Pulling a chopper and silage wagon it would spin out upslope due to no differential lock. The 5000 in 1967 cured that. The 800 worked everyday blading out the free stall barns till it was parked in the 90's. With your talents I wish you'd tried a Select O Speed.
I like how the fuel tank sits above the motor and muffler. Keeping that fuel warm! Look for a 3-16 John Deere wheel plow with coulters. That Diesel will walk away with one of those.
You will need to put a plow or disc behind it and really work it hard to seat the rings in good . Then it should quite slobbing. CK out squatch 253 can't tell what episode it was. That rebuilt cat engine did the same thing. Them old motors had a different metal in them .
I liked seeing the diesel next to the 800. Should get pie weights for it. 3pt over trailer I just got my first tractor about a year ago, ford 640 with a wagner loader. Now I have a huge addiction to the ford tractors. Rebuild its motor and took it on a 70 mile drive 3 different times
If you're not using the PT o, you can take the linkedige on a clutch pedal and move it into the other hole on clutch ride. And then you won't have that clutch pedal up so high. But then when you wanna use the p d o, you'll have to take and reset it in the other hole on the cluch rod
My 861-D is also kinda slobbery out the exhaust, seems like it's more pronounced in cold weather. It runs really good so I haven't messed with it (yet)
Beautiful tractor, definitely need a 3 bottom 3 point. Trailer plows won't help you any with the draft issue you may run into with the track width being set so wide. It'll still pull, it'll just pull a little harder. If it was me personally I'd just flip the centers of the rims around so the dish is in. Not sure if your going to put a loader back on it but it wouldn't interfere with the loader anyway. To me it looks a little goofy with tires so far out from the fenders but it's your tractor do what you want
your 861ford turned out beauiful , put some headlights on it, also I have a new holland t-1530 and its diesel and 45 hp it pulls 3-16s fine ,as I remember the 861 is rated @ 45 hp,the plow is a ford 101 with a level arm on it. I restored it in ford red tiger paint good luck
Back in the early 1970s my dad bought a derelict NAA Golden Jubilee from a junkyard in the suburbs of Chicago and we spent a year tearing it down in our garage in inner city Chicago and found that it had a HI/STD/LO ranging transmission inside the bellhousing but no selector handle so we had to source one of those but parts were easier to get then. We rebuilt the engine, transmission, fuel system, hydraulics and even the electrical system. Anyway it's on my parents' farm in north central KY but both parents passed in 99 and 01 and myself and my 3 sisters sold our fifth to my brother and he still runs it regularly. Other than normal maintenance issues the only problem we had since the 70s is the exhaust replacement and brakes. On the PTO there is an extender you can get that attaches to the standard PTO and brings the attachment point out about 4 inches which will alleviate the problem with the hookup with the quick release button hitting the hitch mount. Your diesel 861 is almost an identical twin overall to the NAA we rebuilt.
Big fan of this project and your content as a Dad of tiny kids. I have a 4-cylinder 4000D in progress and a 961D waiting for someday. Did you use any sealant on the manifolds to block?
Nice Ford tractor. Seems to run nice. ...Just wondering, why so many people (farmers etc) leave their tractors and equip setting out in the elements and tall grass. There must be a good reason, it seems about 80% of them do it.
On a restored tractor like that don't put calcium chloride in the wheels. Real bad idea. I bit the bullet and put wheel weights on to add weight. Mounted plows on those tractors work better over trailer plows.
Hey Fantastic ! 😁My neighbor bought one NEW 1960 . It did not sound like yours .... Red tigers purrrrr. Your ford has an injector problem . One or more injectors are not spraying fuel correctly . that's why you have a sooty discharge with blue smoke . some of the fuel is not being burnt THIS COULD DAMAGE THE MOTOR !! I will guess that you CHEAPED out on the rebuild. Great video thanks
3pnt.2bot.hang.2stack?Jd.162lb.no.on.calcium..idle only to keep from breaking stops on.power.wheel.adj. 20:51 oil at.head.gskt cosmetic 😂coolant 😢have the I.Think Manuel's Enjoy😂
Take her to a plow day or to and work her hard she will set the rings and stop the wet stacking. You rebuild these motors she needs som hard work to set the rings on the piston do not work her for two hours work her all day. It took two days for mine to stop doing that.
What should we do with it now? 5 bottom plow?
5 bottom might be a bit much 😊
5 bottom requires a lot of tractor. For the weight of that machine 3 bottom might right
It's just a pleasure to look at.
Ford videos back in the day had 3-4 bottoms on them I'd love to see a 5 bottom for comedy sake 🤣
It’s funny our backhoe has never had traction issues with all of the weight. If you could get traction it might work
Nice to see a young man bringing older tractors back to Life Great Job
They will slober also known as wet stacking when they idle alot. Usually kicking it up to higher rpms will clear it out. It will do it more in cold weather than hot weather. Nice job on her!
Thanks!
@bourbonbeertractorsandprep9335, correct, also It should have around a 180 degree thermostat.
I have binge watched this series . I enjoyed it and was disappointed when it ended . You have given me a lesson in patience and perseverance with this project
What a great looking 861, nice work.
The reason you're seeing that black oily soot on exhaust is called wet stacking. Just keep putting a lot of loads on it an the wet stacki,g will stop try not to idle it a lot of needs a load on it
Correct
love to see you working with your dad lucky young man
Great job on restoring that tractor looks and runs fantastic
You did an awesome job on her Tyler. You should be very proud.
Put wheel weights on your tractor for tillage work. These 861's had plenty of engine power but were known by customers and dealers to be light in weight. All the vintage training films from the old Ford Tractor company displayed these tractors with rear wheel weights. Also, the additional weights would help the tractor not to jackknife on hillsides while attached to implements such as pull type combines or hay balers. I speak from experience as we had both an 860 and an 861 on our hillside farm in southwestern Wisconsin. I enjoyed your presentation immensely as it brought back the many memories of operating our Ford tractors while growing up as a youth! Looking forward to your additional videos on vintage Ford tractors.
I’m going to load the tires first I think
Smoke cleared right up! She runs good. Nice job.
I would find wheel weights before adding additives/calcium to the rear tires. The rot in the wheels these chemicals cause is not worth it. You did a fantastic job!
Thanks! What about beet juice
I think beet juice is the way to go.
@@dieseJL. I don’t know about this. If the beet juice was fermented it would have alcohol contents to keep it from freezing?
My father in law always used calcium and never had any problems.
Man, that's a sweet sounding and running little tractor. Congratulations on a remarkable job on getting it running.
Great job on that resto looks and sounds beautiful. I have a 61 4000 and i found a set of full pie weights and restord them to help with useing a seven foot box blade to level some of my land here in vermont. Worked great. Also have a new to me 58 861 with snow plow to take some of the of the pressure off of the 4000 for snow removal. The 861 has beet juice in the rears for traction. Both tractors have full sets of chains. You can get into trouble with pie weights on hilly terrain,. Loaded rear tires, if done right are better for center of gravity. Loved your vids, take mama out for dinner and celebrate! Warren in Vermont.
Agree on the loaded tires, and figger out what's up with that PTO. But fantastic job, looks like it runs fantastically and great power and torque there! Appears to be breaking in and the smoke is getting better.
A semi-mounted style plow that pulls from the 3 pt and lifts the rear end with a hydraulic cylinder over a ingle tire seems like it would be a great option.
To rest your concerns take a compression test to monitor the ring/cylinder breaking in.
I use Kubotas now, but grew up farming with Fords of that size. We always had fluid in the tires; we use fluid and wheel weights now. To plow, swap rear tires for narrow tread, front is adjustable. To "layout" the beginning set your plow even then adjust to compensate once you have a good furrow. My brother drives 9000 John Deeres, but still uses a couple of old Fords because he loves them 600 and 601.
Wow love it , Iwork with one in 70's and it ad power , the plow was just 2 bottom and it could andel A 3 B but rear wheel are not aline with the front , you got tund them closer to fender .
Dang man! real nice. it pulls that chiesel nice too... your obsession is now mine! I'm actively trying to find a Narrow front lol. LP would be sweet. If you load the tires. Run beet juice it's next too free in price and doesn't corrode the rims. Where are your lights at?! lol. P.s cherish the memories you have of your Grandpa's '801 with the Sherman backhoe. Thems be getting up there in collectability and price..That'd be one heckva restoration!
Maybe someday!
A piece of history. Thanks for restoring it to its glory days.
What an amazing job mate good on you and your Dad
Awesome resto
What a great job! Beautiful Tractor! I really enjoyed the videos.
I started plowing and disking at 9 years old on a Select O Speed 800. Dad had 2. With front and rear weights the front would be in the air at times. Pulling a chopper and silage wagon it would spin out upslope due to no differential lock. The 5000 in 1967 cured that. The 800 worked everyday blading out the free stall barns till it was parked in the 90's. With your talents I wish you'd tried a Select O Speed.
Well I can have more than one tractor… maybe we will do one of those someday.
The select O Speed is nice to use but they broke a lot, The standard transmission on the old Fords was a lot more dependable.
👍👍👍👍👍👌Great job purrs like a kitten , no bogging lots of power, and looks so good!!
Great to see it working as well as it looks! Rear wheel weights might be hard to find, but they'd prevent the occasional leaks that rust out the rims.
Beet juice should be ok
Great job, would be very proud of that work you did.
Nice job on the tractor.
Awesome old tractor that is none replaceable .
Super cool, great job!💪🏼
You did an amazing job on this restore. Thank you for the videos
Great job.
Nice tractor, looks brand new.
Looks great have a good day.
Seems strong and fun to run
I like how the fuel tank sits above the motor and muffler. Keeping that fuel warm! Look for a 3-16 John Deere wheel plow with coulters. That Diesel will walk away with one of those.
You worked hard to get to here so enjoy!
Beautiful job
Nice go get some more 😮
You will need to put a plow or disc behind it and really work it hard to seat the rings in good . Then it should quite slobbing. CK out squatch 253 can't tell what episode it was. That rebuilt cat engine did the same thing. Them old motors had a different metal in them .
Huh that’s good to know. Work it, I can handle that
I liked seeing the diesel next to the 800. Should get pie weights for it.
3pt over trailer
I just got my first tractor about a year ago, ford 640 with a wagner loader. Now I have a huge addiction to the ford tractors.
Rebuild its motor and took it on a 70 mile drive 3 different times
what you NEED is a Fordson Super Major with a County four-wheel drive conversion. trust me
If you're not using the PT o, you can take the linkedige on a clutch pedal and move it into the other hole on clutch ride. And then you won't have that clutch pedal up so high. But then when you wanna use the p d o, you'll have to take and reset it in the other hole on the cluch rod
My 861-D is also kinda slobbery out the exhaust, seems like it's more pronounced in cold weather. It runs really good so I haven't messed with it (yet)
So these tractors you could get Pie weights. Also don't use calcium in the rear tires. Beat Juice..
Saw the TD 20 backed up where you parked it
Just waiting for more trees
Mounted plow for sure. That three point hitch was designed for a mounted plow. It has draft control which would would not work with a pull type plow.
Beautiful tractor, definitely need a 3 bottom 3 point. Trailer plows won't help you any with the draft issue you may run into with the track width being set so wide. It'll still pull, it'll just pull a little harder. If it was me personally I'd just flip the centers of the rims around so the dish is in. Not sure if your going to put a loader back on it but it wouldn't interfere with the loader anyway. To me it looks a little goofy with tires so far out from the fenders but it's your tractor do what you want
Oh yeah wow maybe I could just flip sides in the tires eh?
Absolutely gorgeous
good to the right color pant
your 861ford turned out beauiful , put some headlights on it, also I have a new holland t-1530 and its diesel and 45 hp it pulls 3-16s fine ,as I remember the 861 is rated @ 45 hp,the plow is a ford 101 with a level arm on it. I restored it in ford red tiger paint good luck
p.s. the plow is 3 point hitch
NICE!!!!!
LOVE IT!
Back in the early 1970s my dad bought a derelict NAA Golden Jubilee from a junkyard in the suburbs of Chicago and we spent a year tearing it down in our garage in inner city Chicago and found that it had a HI/STD/LO ranging transmission inside the bellhousing but no selector handle so we had to source one of those but parts were easier to get then. We rebuilt the engine, transmission, fuel system, hydraulics and even the electrical system. Anyway it's on my parents' farm in north central KY but both parents passed in 99 and 01 and myself and my 3 sisters sold our fifth to my brother and he still runs it regularly. Other than normal maintenance issues the only problem we had since the 70s is the exhaust replacement and brakes. On the PTO there is an extender you can get that attaches to the standard PTO and brings the attachment point out about 4 inches which will alleviate the problem with the hookup with the quick release button hitting the hitch mount. Your diesel 861 is almost an identical twin overall to the NAA we rebuilt.
Yeah the jubilee is a cool tractor. We have one that needs restoring actually.
Looks like you exhaust cap was open when trailering. Is there a way to turn it to the side?
Put a little transmission fluid in the fuel filter. It will lubricate the pump.
Most beautiful. I'm going to need some help from all of you guys to help me with my 59 861D.😅
I need a few years before I do another one haha
3 point 2 bottom 14s shoud work fine so much better than trailer
That tractor will handle a 3 bottom for sure. I'd look for a 3 bottom 16 inch plow.
Yikes how about 3 12’s
Get the back wheels moved in and go ploughing! It'll also fit in your trailer better ☺️
Big fan of this project and your content as a Dad of tiny kids. I have a 4-cylinder 4000D in progress and a 961D waiting for someday. Did you use any sealant on the manifolds to block?
The only place I used sealant was on the rear main seal and any t joints
We had 860.gas power Master 42.on.pto.38.on.drawbar.
3 pt, 2 bottom 16 inch or 3/14.
You have the centers on the back wheels backwards
Pie weights!!
Still need to swap the rear wheels over!
just now figured out you're the same guys who bought the TD20!..
What gave it away?
Que motor trae??? Gracias!!
It’s a ford 172 diesel
Do you have headlights for the tractor
I do not actually
13:50: leak is from engine-oil filter - it's blown up by the radiator fan.................... you're welcome
Huh I will check that 🤔🤔🤔
Nice Ford tractor. Seems to run nice. ...Just wondering, why so many people (farmers etc) leave their tractors and equip setting out in the elements and tall grass. There must be a good reason, it seems about 80% of them do it.
56 horsepower was a ton of horse back in the day
On a restored tractor like that don't put calcium chloride in the wheels. Real bad idea. I bit the bullet and put wheel weights on to add weight. Mounted plows on those tractors work better over trailer plows.
Rim guard/beet juice is as heavy and is non corrosive.
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Is that an exhaust manifold leak on your Kubota?
It is. Bummer for a tractor with a thousand hours.
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Is that a Jubilee?
it is like the successor to the jubilee
I think ya got too much air in your rear tires air them down a little they bite better plus some wieght
mounted
Nice old Ford tractor.
3 bottom plow
Tractor data says the 861 is a 3 plow probably a 3/14
5 bottoms to much 3/16s would be plenty enough if that helps
You have a wife and kid. Set up ROP please.
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Well if you want something bigger I have a running 340 with a dozer blade I will trade you. She isn't a standard 340. She is 8ft wide
Get a 3 point plow
Hey Fantastic ! 😁My neighbor bought one NEW 1960 . It did not sound like yours .... Red tigers purrrrr. Your ford has an injector problem . One or more injectors are not spraying fuel correctly . that's why you have a sooty discharge with blue smoke . some of the fuel is not being burnt THIS COULD DAMAGE THE MOTOR !! I will guess that you CHEAPED out on the rebuild. Great video thanks
3pnt.2bot.hang.2stack?Jd.162lb.no.on.calcium..idle only to keep from breaking stops on.power.wheel.adj. 20:51 oil at.head.gskt cosmetic 😂coolant 😢have the I.Think Manuel's Enjoy😂
Take her to a plow day or to and work her hard she will set the rings and stop the wet stacking. You rebuild these motors she needs som hard work to set the rings on the piston do not work her for two hours work her all day. It took two days for mine to stop doing that.
Hooray Tyler. She's sweet.
Old tractor fans (and new tractors and farming)
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Well you have 40 plus hp your pump is putting to much fuel you need to work it harder an run it at a higher rpm an not lug it so it burns the fuel
she’s beautiful