Tungus Languages and Cultures are especially interesting to me, especially mythologically, the religions of the Tungus have the same characters as the Turkish Mongolian mythology, while the religions of the Tungus are a slightly modified version of Tengrism, a version of Shamanism, and their beliefs overlap with the Shamanism of the Far Eastern Turkic rather than Mongolian Shamanism. The word structure of Tungus languages is interestingly very similar to Mongolian, especially in terms of language, Tungus languages have many common features with Mongolians, however, Tungus languages, although not as much as Mongolian, have considerable similarities with Turkic Language, although not as much as Mongolian, in terms of vocabulary, basic expressions, pronouns, animals and kinship structures. I cannot bear that such a large language group is in danger, it is very dramatic, unfortunately, due to the Soviet Stalin's and China's Tyrannical Policies, it has come to this day in Tungus Languages, especially not only tungus, but many ethnic groups living in the Far East, nivigis Far Eastern Turkic and Siberian Mongols were digested in Siberia. I hope that one day the Tungus language will be uploaded again and at least the vocabulary content and grammar will be shared in detail on the internet because there is not much information about the vocabulary of tungus languages on the internet except for the World Languages word book.
Great video as always, I have a suggestion though. Before the language profile section, it would be nice to see a sample text written in that language (a romanized one so that we can read it, of course), or even a recording of that language being spoken. This way we can get a much better idea of how those languages look and sound like, instead of only learning about them at a surface level.
I think you are really an undiscovered emerald on youtube in the face of the Fluency of your English and the Interesting information you provide. You contribute a lot to our general culture, especially not only about Language families, but also in Turkish history and other interesting little historical information and interesting information. Please continue to produce content on Youtuba, we watch your videos with love and support as your followers.
It's videos like this that we need more of on UA-cam, these people have extraordinary cultures and languages, they deserve more space, congratulations, this is my favorite channel, hugs from Brazil 🇧🇷.
Didn't expect to see a new video on the Tungusic languages. I have studied the Tungusic languages for around a year and have had a huge interest in them, and I have to say, this video is very accurate. You're a very underrated channel, your videos are very indepth. I will make sure to check out your other videos. Cheers.
Coming from a Russian: thank you a lot for showcasing these precious languages. I know that these people were oppresed by our government, but I am personally really happy that they are kept afloat now and that people can learn about them from you video. I am also happy that youtube recommended thus vid to me, it's definetely an easy subscribe. Keep up the good work
Your work is so underrated man. Love the work you put in your vids. People like you are really helping us learn a lot. And got a suggestion for other language families - Caucasus Languages - Semitic Languages - Slavic languages - If possible the different dialect of Arabic - Dravidian Languages - Indian languages (the ones coming from Sanskrit)
I appreciate that! Thank you ❤️ Caucasus languages is definitely coming. It’s such a rich region with dozens of unique languages. I will also look into the other language families you have mentioned. Some families like Sino-Tibetan attract me a lot but this family alone has around 400 languages which would take me a year to do 😅
36:00 just a correction, Classical Chinese was a strictly written language that wasn't accessible to the vast majority of the common people. By the time of the Qing dynasty the Chinese/Sinitic dialects/languages were more or less similar to what they are nowadays, except that instead of modern standard Chinese/Mandarin there was a more informal koine language based on Mandarin dialects used by officials throughout the country.
Thank you for your work and effort. It's refreshing to see someone making professional, comprehensible and erudite videos about small languages and language families. Such an underrated channel.
A nice video, thank you for your hard work. By the way, the Orok flag showed there was made by a Wikipedia user 幻光尘 (Huanguangchen), and no evidence shows that the flag was used officially by Orok people.
You are a hugely underrated UA-camr. I'm here waiting for your channel to blow up in the linguistics side of UA-cam so you can get more credit and have more resources to create bigger, better videos that cover all sorts of topics related to these fascinating Central Asian languages and cultures that really don't see much coverage on UA-cam. Keep up all the good work, man.
Türkçedeki ilerlemene tebrikler! (Congrats on your progress in Turkish!) I would suggest you download a Turkish keyboard if you intend on using it semi-regularly. Also, "teşekkür" is written with one ş and two ks, just a small nitpick.
As someone who can be considered Turkish by blood (half Turkish, half Polish), it is impressive to see content of this quality. I can say that there is no other culture that combines the West and the East, benefits from both cultures, but never loses its originality. An ancient culture that starts from the steppes in Central Asia and extends to the Alps with diverse groups and ethnicities.
Could you do sino-tibetan? That's one of the remaining linguistics rabbit holes I've still not dived in 😁 Also really nice video, I learned a lot, thank you.
Can you make a video about uralic languages since the I live in Norway and we have a Ethnic group called the Sami who are reindeer herders and they make blood pancakes
Friend, the hard work you put for such a topic is appreciate able. Do make more on these topics. Also, due to Russian and Chinese influence, almost all of these groups have assimilated in the native Russian/Chinese culture. Also, what's your name and do you live in Turkey?
Nice video, but if you use Qing dynasty flag rather than Japanese puppet state Manchukuo flag to stand for Manchu will be much better Trust me, most Manchu people do not regard Manchukuo as their “nation-state”
@@turkchap en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchukuo Maybe you can check this. Imperial Japan used its puppet state-Manchukuo to colonize Manchuria, committing war crimes against locals, including actual Manchu people. Plus, the meanings of Manchukuo's flag include "Japan’s dominance", it just doesn’t reflect Manchu people or culture. Swap "Japan" for "Nazi Germany" may make it easier to understand.
The thing about Manchu language being endangered is, modern Manchu was really born out of the bannermen system, and the inter-marriage ban was between bannermen and common Han Chinese, moreso than just ethnic Manchu back in the early 1600s. Bannermen consists of both Manchu, Han and Mongols, and by some extent small mixture of Koreans, and inter-marriages inside the banners were perfectly ok. The decline of the Manchu language was two fold. Since bannermen weren't all Manchu to begin with, having all bannermen learn Manchu language was never feasible. The first few emperors did try, but to limited success, and even if they were able to make every bannerman speak Manchu, then there's the fact that common Chinese speaking Han outnumber the bannermen 10 to 1, so you'd still have to use Chinese, mostly a form of Mandarin to communicate anyways. Modern Manchus came after the fall of the Qing dynasty, were basically all bannermen classify themselves as ethnic Manchu, and it can't really be done any other way, because of the long inter-marriage, it's no longer possible to identify who's purely Han bannermen, who's purely Mongol, or who's purely Manchu. But because of that, there wasn't a very strong will to use the Manchu language even at that point. Case and point, the last emperor Puyi, probably spoke better English than Manchu, he could read Manchu script, but according to his memoir, he can't speak it very well, and that's from the Manchu emperor. In terms of an average bannermen, it'll probably be even less. A simple analogy is, how many Irish Americans do you think actually speak Irish Gaelic? Similar situation here.
No. The word Orochen (correct spelling) has 2 possible origins 1: oron + cen= reindeer + er=reindeer herders; 2 xoron + cen=mountain top+ er= mountain people. Since the Orochen has always been living in the forest and indeed did not raise reindeers historically so 2 is likely to be the correct etymology instead of the commonly publicized 1.
@@Kerguelen.Mapping It's better if he does one video with kartvelian northeast and northwest caucasian families because we are very related and we are one family
It's very likely that the Evenki language has fully died out in Mongolia, because the influence of Khalkha Mongolian across the country is too strong and there's no buffer languages to procrastinate the process.
The Oroq k Gilyaq k are intergrated in Japan reviving their language Gold Goldi very little information I think they were called mistaken with Tonchi of Chorpok /kor pok kur live under ground people in, Japanese ko bito small they are associated with the people pigmy there are many Japanese who live in NorthTohoku mountain region are very short once a kojiki book Japanese called Mishi-hase lived on Sakata Island Many say the Tungus fled from Mongol who tried to invade Hokkaido See Wikipedia korpokkuru Okhotsk culture Susu ya Satsu-mon cultures
you are using the manchukou flag for manchu, it is a puppet gov set up by the invading Japanese during the WWII, I dont think this should be in anyway associated with Manchu language.
Geoffrey Horrocks' "Greek - A history of the language and its speakers" (Wiley-Blackwell, 1997-2010) is likely the reference manual for the history of the Greek language in the English-speaking world. He dedicated a portion of his book to the Greek spoken in Southern Italy. The chapter would be too long to share, but I'm going to quote a large excerpt of it. ************ GREEK IN THE WEST: THE SOUTH ITALIAN DIALECTS (pp. 388-391) Magna Graecia had become a major centre of Greek civilization in the ancient world with the establishment of many important cities of predominantly Doric speech in the 8th and 7th centuries BC. Hellenization of the area seems to have been quite comprehensive; the whole of Sicily, for example, was Greek-speaking by the 1st century BC, though communities of Sikels, Sikans and Elymians doubtless survived in the remoter districts of the east and the interior. The expansion of Rome, and with it the use of Latin, eventually restricted the role of Greek, though a reading of Petronius' 'Satyricon' (1st century AD) reveals a southern Italian world in which Greeks and Greek remained prominent, while the historian Tacitus in the same period refers to Naples (a Greek foundation: Νεάπολις [ne'apolis] = 'Newtown') as "urbs quasi Graeca", 'a quasi-Greek city'. Though there is debate about the continuity of Greek from antiquity into the Byzantine period, there was certainly an influx of Greek speakers following Justinian's reconquest, and we should therefore not be surprised to learn that Greek was still spoken widely as a native language in north-western Sicily, Calabria and Apulia at the beginning of the second millennium AD, a situation supported by a continuous tradition of Greek Orthodoxy and intermittent Byzantine rule (punctuated by Lombard and Arab invasions) that was only terminated by the Norman conquest at the end of the 11th century. Refugees from the Slav and Avar invasions of the Peloponnese in the 6th/7th centuries, clerics fleeing the Iconoclast controversy of the 8th century, and settlers from other areas during the period of territorial gains from the Arabs in the late 9th and 10th centuries all helped to sustain the area's close links with the culture and traditions of Byzantium, and even after 1071 the Norman kings and the Hohenstaufens cultivated learning in Greek, Latin and Arabic, thus allowing the region to hold on to its Byzantine heritage until at least the 14th century. The koineization process of the Hellenistic and Roman periods proceeded much as in other areas where West Greek was long-established, and produced spoken varieties with a considerable dialect residue. Subsequently, the presence of Byzantine administrators, together with the arrival of monks, refugees and settlers from other parts of the empire, reinforced the use in educated society of traditional forms of written Greek and the spoken standard, both of which served to keep local vernaculars in touch with the mainstream of medieval Greek development. None the less, the severing of the political connection with the empire after 1071, combined with a steady influx of Italians and the spread of Catholicism, led to a gradual decline of Greek language and culture, and to autonomous dialectal development as areas of Greek speech were reduced to isolated enclaves. But we should be careful not to exaggerate the speed of the process: Petrarch in the 14th century could still advise someone who wished to learn Greek to go to Calabria, and the Orthodox church retained adherents in both Calabria and Apulia into the early 17th century. Eventually, however, Greek disappeared completely from Sicily, and the number of Greek-speaking villages in southern Italy began to decline sharply during the 18th and 19th centuries. Thus the fourteen Greek-speaking settlements in each of Calabria and Apulia in the early 19th century had fallen to six and eight respectively by the middle of the 20th. None the less, Greek still remains in use in two remote and geographically separated areas, the mountainous Aspromonte region at the tip of Calabria, and the fertile Otranto peninsula south of Lecce in Puglia. The dialect groups concerned are often referred to as "Bovézika" (after the village of Bova, where Greek is now extinct) and "Otrandínika" (after the Terra d'Otranto). Here Greek is a 'domestic' language, and bilingualism has produced a situation in which it has partly converged in lexicon and grammar with the dominant language. The position of Greek in Calabria is now perilous (c. 500 native speakers in the traditional villages, all elderly, though there are Greek-speaking communities of migrants in Reggio); in Puglia, by contrast, 'Grico' survives more strongly (c. 20,000 speakers) and there are even efforts at revival. The principal interest of these varieties, apart from providing observable examples of the process of 'language death', is that they have preserved a number of archaic features, including elements which were once widespread in medieval Greek before falling out of mainstream use. Since the same is true of the Asia Minor dialects, any points of agreement between the western and eastern peripheries are likely to be of significance for the reconstruction of the medieval vernacular. Of particular interest in this connection is the retention of infinitives in both South Italian and the Pontic dialects of the Muslim communities on the Black Sea Coast in the region of Trebizond. [...] Other archaisms shared by South Italian and Pontic include the avoidance of synizesis and the retention of the ancient aorist imperative in -σο(ν) [-so(n)] (replaced elsewhere with -σε [-se] modelled on imperfective -ε [-e]). The ancient aorist participle also survives in South Italian (in the modified and uninflected form "-sonda" familiar from medieval texts like the 'Chronicle of the Morea'), though many other features are peculiar to the region, e.g. the use of "tíspo" 'anyone' < τίς ποτε ['tispote], lit. 'anyone ever', parallel to the standard neuter τίποτε ['tipote] 'anything/nothing'. This alternative to κανείς [ka'nis] once again emphasizes the early independence of this dialect group from the mainstream. ************ Except for the names that Horrocks gives to the two varieties in Calabria and Salento (in the first case there is actually a tendency to call it "Calabrian Greek", "Greko" or "Grecanico"; in the second, to call it "Salentine Greek" or "Griko"), I think what he wrote is an excellent summary of the situation (in Greece the two varieties are collectively known as "κατωιταλική διάλεκτος" - literally "the dialect of Southern Italy" - or "καλαβρέζικα" [lit. "Calabrian"]).
This flag is a legitimate flag used by Manchuria, and is still used by many Manchu to represent their culture and identity to this day. There is another blue, white, and black variant, but this one remains to be the most mainstream.
@@PerplexPrays No it's not. The only ones using this as something that they claim to represent "culture and identity to this day" is a self-proclaimed "Manchukuo government in exile" founded by two Han-Chinese Hong Kong dude in the 2000s out of simple spite for the Chinese government. Get your friggin fact right. Manchukuo had at it's height, like 30% ethnic Manchu. Most Manchus were happily settled in parts of China south of Beijing. If Manchukuo was such a representative symbol, you'd expect many more to have moved there during the 1930s...... Besides, the flag is adopted from the Beiyang flag of the ROC, how is that representative of anything? As an ethnic Manchu, I gotta say, just because some dumbasses suck at history, does not give you the right to perpetuate their mistakes and dumb mistakes. You know how dumb that statement is? It's literally like saying the coat of arms of East Germany represents Germanic "culture and identity".
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Tungus Languages and Cultures are especially interesting to me, especially mythologically, the religions of the Tungus have the same characters as the Turkish Mongolian mythology, while the religions of the Tungus are a slightly modified version of Tengrism, a version of Shamanism, and their beliefs overlap with the Shamanism of the Far Eastern Turkic rather than Mongolian Shamanism.
The word structure of Tungus languages is interestingly very similar to Mongolian, especially in terms of language, Tungus languages have many common features with Mongolians, however, Tungus languages, although not as much as Mongolian, have considerable similarities with Turkic Language, although not as much as Mongolian, in terms of vocabulary, basic expressions, pronouns, animals and kinship structures.
I cannot bear that such a large language group is in danger, it is very dramatic, unfortunately, due to the Soviet Stalin's and China's Tyrannical Policies, it has come to this day in Tungus Languages, especially not only tungus, but many ethnic groups living in the Far East, nivigis Far Eastern Turkic and Siberian Mongols were digested in Siberia.
I hope that one day the Tungus language will be uploaded again and at least the vocabulary content and grammar will be shared in detail on the internet because there is not much information about the vocabulary of tungus languages on the internet except for the World Languages word book.
As always, a very good and interesting video! I'll suggest you make a video on more language families. 👍
@@Rhythm412Thank you! Yes, more language families are on the way 😀
0:00 Intro
2:44 Xibe
5:36 Evenki
9:22 Even
11:52 Nanai
14:35 Oroqen
17:07 Udege
20:32 Ulch
23:15 Oroch
26:05 Negidal
28:49 Orok
30:44 Manchu
Absolutely fantastic video.
Thank you for the hard work!
You are such an underrated Youtber man. Keep up rhe good work!
Thank you so much, will do! 🙏
Great video as always, I have a suggestion though. Before the language profile section, it would be nice to see a sample text written in that language (a romanized one so that we can read it, of course), or even a recording of that language being spoken. This way we can get a much better idea of how those languages look and sound like, instead of only learning about them at a surface level.
Great suggestion! Thank you for watching and sharing feedback. I will do it in the next videos
I think you are really an undiscovered emerald on youtube in the face of the Fluency of your English and the Interesting information you provide. You contribute a lot to our general culture, especially not only about Language families, but also in Turkish history and other interesting little historical information and interesting information. Please continue to produce content on Youtuba, we watch your videos with love and support as your followers.
Thank you brother, that’s very kind of you! ❤️
This is the niche linguistic / language family knowledge that I’m always wanting, great work!
Awesome, thank you!
It's videos like this that we need more of on UA-cam, these people have extraordinary cultures and languages, they deserve more space, congratulations, this is my favorite channel, hugs from Brazil 🇧🇷.
Muito obrigado meu amigo! ❤️🇧🇷
as a turk i love brazil
I really hope manchu, and the tunguistic languages in general have some sort of revival
you should talk either for Uralic or Paleo-siberian next!! Very cool videos
Paleo-Siberian and Samoyedic families are on the way :)
@@turkchap yay
Uralic
Very underrated!! Thanks for the video, it was very interesting to listen
Glad you enjoyed it!
Didn't expect to see a new video on the Tungusic languages. I have studied the Tungusic languages for around a year and have had a huge interest in them, and I have to say, this video is very accurate. You're a very underrated channel, your videos are very indepth. I will make sure to check out your other videos. Cheers.
Hey, thank you for the comment! Glad to hear it. More language families and lost people videos are on the way 😊
Coming from a Russian: thank you a lot for showcasing these precious languages. I know that these people were oppresed by our government, but I am personally really happy that they are kept afloat now and that people can learn about them from you video. I am also happy that youtube recommended thus vid to me, it's definetely an easy subscribe. Keep up the good work
Your work is so underrated man. Love the work you put in your vids. People like you are really helping us learn a lot.
And got a suggestion for other language families
- Caucasus Languages
- Semitic Languages
- Slavic languages
- If possible the different dialect of Arabic
- Dravidian Languages
- Indian languages (the ones coming from Sanskrit)
I appreciate that! Thank you ❤️
Caucasus languages is definitely coming. It’s such a rich region with dozens of unique languages. I will also look into the other language families you have mentioned.
Some families like Sino-Tibetan attract me a lot but this family alone has around 400 languages which would take me a year to do 😅
Uralic next please! Szia Lengyelországból.
yes
Yes, I will do Uralic as well but don’t know when. Stay tuned in 😄
@@turkchap yes
@@turkchap we need you to work on and Finnish one
@@turkchap can you pls make the caucasian family once with cherkessian,chechenian,lezgi language,...
Incredible video !! Please talk about the Chukotko-Kamchatkan languages next !!
THANK YOU FOR THIS ive Evenki is my favorite in this branch
You're very welcome!
Thanks so much for this! The q in Oroqen is pronounced the same way as the ch in Oroch.
Thank you for the info
36:00 just a correction, Classical Chinese was a strictly written language that wasn't accessible to the vast majority of the common people. By the time of the Qing dynasty the Chinese/Sinitic dialects/languages were more or less similar to what they are nowadays, except that instead of modern standard Chinese/Mandarin there was a more informal koine language based on Mandarin dialects used by officials throughout the country.
Thank you for your work and effort. It's refreshing to see someone making professional, comprehensible and erudite videos about small languages and language families. Such an underrated channel.
Wow, thank you!
A nice video, thank you for your hard work.
By the way, the Orok flag showed there was made by a Wikipedia user 幻光尘 (Huanguangchen), and no evidence shows that the flag was used officially by Orok people.
You are a hugely underrated UA-camr. I'm here waiting for your channel to blow up in the linguistics side of UA-cam so you can get more credit and have more resources to create bigger, better videos that cover all sorts of topics related to these fascinating Central Asian languages and cultures that really don't see much coverage on UA-cam. Keep up all the good work, man.
Wow, thank you! Very glad to hear it 🙏
This video is so underrated
Hopefully it gets more views :)
And here I was scrolling through your channel. Keep it up homie
Appreciate it! Thank you 🙏
you are a great channel
Much appreciated ❤️
@@turkchap💕(btw are you gonna make a video about uralic languages?)
@@duruska3671 Yes, definitely :) I have a few more videos before but I already started to work on the Uralic episode.
nice stylistic and informative! keep it up
Thank you! Will do!
Only 675 likes? What? I thought this video has at least 100 thousand.
Merhaba turk chap can you record a video about turkish diaspora, I think it is an interesting topic tessekur ederim ben turkce ogreniyorum
Türkçedeki ilerlemene tebrikler! (Congrats on your progress in Turkish!)
I would suggest you download a Turkish keyboard if you intend on using it semi-regularly. Also, "teşekkür" is written with one ş and two ks, just a small nitpick.
Great idea! I will definitely check this topic as well. Also, good luck on your Turkish language journey! Bol şans, kolay gelsin ❤️
As someone who can be considered Turkish by blood (half Turkish, half Polish), it is impressive to see content of this quality. I can say that there is no other culture that combines the West and the East, benefits from both cultures, but never loses its originality. An ancient culture that starts from the steppes in Central Asia and extends to the Alps with diverse groups and ethnicities.
Can’t think of a better way it putting it. Thanks friend! 🙏
Could you do sino-tibetan? That's one of the remaining linguistics rabbit holes I've still not dived in 😁
Also really nice video, I learned a lot, thank you.
Great suggestion! But Sino-Tibetan has more than 400 languages, which would take a year to make a video about 😅
Nanai symbol is absolutely beautiful i must say
Agreed
Can you make a video about uralic languages since the I live in Norway and we have a Ethnic group called the Sami who are reindeer herders and they make blood pancakes
Oh yeah, the Sami are super interesting. Ural languages are definitely in the list! Hello to 🇳🇴
I love your language family videos , great work ❤
Can you do anatolian Turkish dialects some time ?
Thank you so much! Yes, I will look into the Turkish dialects as well 🙏
Não conhecia praticamente nada sobre as línguas tungússicas. É um ótimo vídeo.
Obrigado meu amigo!
It would have been nice to see written examples of each language, nevertheless a great video
Great video! Are you also planning to make a video about the nivkh language?
Yes, soon :)
Very interesting
Fire video as always ⚡️
Thank you ❤️
thank you very much for the video
Thank you for watching 🙏
EVENK MENTIONED 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
keep it up!!
Thank you for your support! Very kind of you ❤️
bro ur english better than most native speakers
Wow, thank you! 🙏
native speakers can at least pronounce their "th"s right
@@vforvictory2953not me, speech impediments exist
@@vforvictory2953 I don’t pronounce it right and I am okay with it
Manchu is spoken by at least 80 people, most of them outside of continental China though
liked it before watched
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u did a great job , as a chinese , wow ,well done
Thank you! I appreciate it
Can't wait for the paleosiberian episode
Friend, the hard work you put for such a topic is appreciate able. Do make more on these topics. Also, due to Russian and Chinese influence, almost all of these groups have assimilated in the native Russian/Chinese culture. Also, what's your name and do you live in Turkey?
Thank you brother! I appreciate it 🙂 I will make many more videos like this
Sibe is basically a dialect of Manchu, so Manch can be, in a way, considered still active.
I hope you do Iranic languages next❤
Super cool language family! I definitely plan to work on it too, but it would take longer 😀
Another Turkic classic
Nice video, but if you use Qing dynasty flag rather than Japanese puppet state Manchukuo flag to stand for Manchu will be much better
Trust me, most Manchu people do not regard Manchukuo as their “nation-state”
Tbh I didn’t know the difference
@@turkchap en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchukuo
Maybe you can check this.
Imperial Japan used its puppet state-Manchukuo to colonize Manchuria, committing war crimes against locals, including actual Manchu people. Plus, the meanings of Manchukuo's flag include "Japan’s dominance", it just doesn’t reflect Manchu people or culture.
Swap "Japan" for "Nazi Germany" may make it easier to understand.
The thing about Manchu language being endangered is, modern Manchu was really born out of the bannermen system, and the inter-marriage ban was between bannermen and common Han Chinese, moreso than just ethnic Manchu back in the early 1600s. Bannermen consists of both Manchu, Han and Mongols, and by some extent small mixture of Koreans, and inter-marriages inside the banners were perfectly ok. The decline of the Manchu language was two fold. Since bannermen weren't all Manchu to begin with, having all bannermen learn Manchu language was never feasible. The first few emperors did try, but to limited success, and even if they were able to make every bannerman speak Manchu, then there's the fact that common Chinese speaking Han outnumber the bannermen 10 to 1, so you'd still have to use Chinese, mostly a form of Mandarin to communicate anyways.
Modern Manchus came after the fall of the Qing dynasty, were basically all bannermen classify themselves as ethnic Manchu, and it can't really be done any other way, because of the long inter-marriage, it's no longer possible to identify who's purely Han bannermen, who's purely Mongol, or who's purely Manchu. But because of that, there wasn't a very strong will to use the Manchu language even at that point.
Case and point, the last emperor Puyi, probably spoke better English than Manchu, he could read Manchu script, but according to his memoir, he can't speak it very well, and that's from the Manchu emperor. In terms of an average bannermen, it'll probably be even less.
A simple analogy is, how many Irish Americans do you think actually speak Irish Gaelic? Similar situation here.
do sinitic next, or uralic
Uralic is coming for sure 👍 I will also look into the Sinitic languages.
Do uralic next
On the way :)
how only 4.9k subs?
Growing, but slowly 💪
Is there any connection etymologically between Oroqen and Orokhon?
No. The word Orochen (correct spelling) has 2 possible origins 1: oron + cen= reindeer + er=reindeer herders; 2 xoron + cen=mountain top+ er= mountain people. Since the Orochen has always been living in the forest and indeed did not raise reindeers historically so 2 is likely to be the correct etymology instead of the commonly publicized 1.
@@ODKON93 thank you for the detailed reply
do more language family videos about uralic or northeast caucasian etc
Caucasian is definitely coming!
@@turkchap yes i wish something like arawakan could be done but i feel like its not well documented enough
@@Kerguelen.Mapping It's better if he does one video with kartvelian northeast and northwest caucasian families because we are very related and we are one family
Uralic next
Yes my friend!
@@turkchap yay cool
The video is interesting but considering the title mentions languages I would expect the video to take a linguistic approach
can you do next sino-tibetan languages?
You know it’s one language family that attracts me a lot but it has more than 400 languages. It would take me a year or longer to work on it :(
@@turkchap no its not
@@KK-qw9xd yes it is
It's very likely that the Evenki language has fully died out in Mongolia, because the influence of Khalkha Mongolian across the country is too strong and there's no buffer languages to procrastinate the process.
Tungusic languages
🇨🇳Xibe
🇷🇺Evenki
🇷🇺Even
🇷🇺Nanai
🇨🇳Oroqen
🇷🇺Udege
🇷🇺Ulch
🇷🇺Oroch
🇷🇺Negidal
🇷🇺Orok
🇨🇳Manchu
Evenk population in Russia
*1897: 66,270
1926: 38,804 (-41.4%)
1939: 29,599 (-23.7%)
1959: 24,583 (-16.9%)
1970: 25,051 (+1.9%)
1979: 27,278 (+8.8%)
1989: 29,901 (+9.6%)
2002: 35,527 (+18.8%)
2010: 37,843 (+6.5%)
2021: 39,226 (+3.65%)
*I think the Russians in 1897 counted all northern Tungusic people as Evenki?
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Even Population in Russia
1926: 2,044
1939: 9,674 (+373.2%)
1959: 9,023 (-6.7%)
1970: 11,819 (+30.9%)
1979: 12,215 (3.3%)
1989: 17,055 (+39.6%)
2002: 19,071 (+11.8%)
2010: 22,383 (+17.3%)
2021: 19,913 (-11.0%)
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I think Qapqal is pronounced soft ch, chapchal, in conformance to Chinese PinYin system. Not q/k.
Thank you! It’s been a little hard to find how to pronounce some of these words so I went with my gut in this case :)
The Oroq k Gilyaq k are intergrated in Japan reviving their language Gold Goldi very little information I think they were called mistaken with Tonchi of Chorpok /kor pok kur live under ground people in, Japanese ko bito small they are associated with the people pigmy there are many Japanese who live in NorthTohoku mountain region are very short once a kojiki book Japanese called Mishi-hase lived on Sakata Island Many say the Tungus fled from Mongol who tried to invade Hokkaido See Wikipedia korpokkuru Okhotsk culture Susu ya Satsu-mon cultures
buddy, there's a thing called punctuation? Especially when you are typing in English?
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Hoe zit het met Mantsjoerije? Het is dezelfde Tungusische toestand.
you are using the manchukou flag for manchu, it is a puppet gov set up by the invading Japanese during the WWII, I dont think this should be in anyway associated with Manchu language.
There should be a Qing flag instead
The next one, the Hellenic languages :)
Great idea! Adding it to my list. So much potential in this topic 😀
@@turkchap I can give you pieces of information about the Greek varieties spoken in Italy
@@giuseppedelfino8246 Would be great!
Geoffrey Horrocks' "Greek - A history of the language and its speakers" (Wiley-Blackwell, 1997-2010) is likely the reference manual for the history of the Greek language in the English-speaking world.
He dedicated a portion of his book to the Greek spoken in Southern Italy. The chapter would be too long to share, but I'm going to quote a large excerpt of it.
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GREEK IN THE WEST: THE SOUTH ITALIAN DIALECTS (pp. 388-391)
Magna Graecia had become a major centre of Greek civilization in the ancient world with the establishment of many important cities of predominantly Doric speech in the 8th and 7th centuries BC. Hellenization of the area seems to have been quite comprehensive; the whole of Sicily, for example, was Greek-speaking by the 1st century BC, though communities of Sikels, Sikans and Elymians doubtless survived in the remoter districts of the east and the interior. The expansion of Rome, and with it the use of Latin, eventually restricted the role of Greek, though a reading of Petronius' 'Satyricon' (1st century AD) reveals a southern Italian world in which Greeks and Greek remained prominent, while the historian Tacitus in the same period refers to Naples (a Greek foundation: Νεάπολις [ne'apolis] = 'Newtown') as "urbs quasi Graeca", 'a quasi-Greek city'.
Though there is debate about the continuity of Greek from antiquity into the Byzantine period, there was certainly an influx of Greek speakers following Justinian's reconquest, and we should therefore not be surprised to learn that Greek was still spoken widely as a native language in north-western Sicily, Calabria and Apulia at the beginning of the second millennium AD, a situation supported by a continuous tradition of Greek Orthodoxy and intermittent Byzantine rule (punctuated by Lombard and Arab invasions) that was only terminated by the Norman conquest at the end of the 11th century. Refugees from the Slav and Avar invasions of the Peloponnese in the 6th/7th centuries, clerics fleeing the Iconoclast controversy of the 8th century, and settlers from other areas during the period of territorial gains from the Arabs in the late 9th and 10th centuries all helped to sustain the area's close links with the culture and traditions of Byzantium, and even after 1071 the Norman kings and the Hohenstaufens cultivated learning in Greek, Latin and Arabic, thus allowing the region to hold on to its Byzantine heritage until at least the 14th century.
The koineization process of the Hellenistic and Roman periods proceeded much as in other areas where West Greek was long-established, and produced spoken varieties with a considerable dialect residue. Subsequently, the presence of Byzantine administrators, together with the arrival of monks, refugees and settlers from other parts of the empire, reinforced the use in educated society of traditional forms of written Greek and the spoken standard, both of which served to keep local vernaculars in touch with the mainstream of medieval Greek development. None the less, the severing of the political connection with the empire after 1071, combined with a steady influx of Italians and the spread of Catholicism, led to a gradual decline of Greek language and culture, and to autonomous dialectal development as areas of Greek speech were reduced to isolated enclaves. But we should be careful not to exaggerate the speed of the process: Petrarch in the 14th century could still advise someone who wished to learn Greek to go to Calabria, and the Orthodox church retained adherents in both Calabria and Apulia into the early 17th century.
Eventually, however, Greek disappeared completely from Sicily, and the number of Greek-speaking villages in southern Italy began to decline sharply during the 18th and 19th centuries. Thus the fourteen Greek-speaking settlements in each of Calabria and Apulia in the early 19th century had fallen to six and eight respectively by the middle of the 20th. None the less, Greek still remains in use in two remote and geographically separated areas, the mountainous Aspromonte region at the tip of Calabria, and the fertile Otranto peninsula south of Lecce in Puglia. The dialect groups concerned are often referred to as "Bovézika" (after the village of Bova, where Greek is now extinct) and "Otrandínika" (after the Terra d'Otranto). Here Greek is a 'domestic' language, and bilingualism has produced a situation in which it has partly converged in lexicon and grammar with the dominant language. The position of Greek in Calabria is now perilous (c. 500 native speakers in the traditional villages, all elderly, though there are Greek-speaking communities of migrants in Reggio); in Puglia, by contrast, 'Grico' survives more strongly (c. 20,000 speakers) and there are even efforts at revival.
The principal interest of these varieties, apart from providing observable examples of the process of 'language death', is that they have preserved a number of archaic features, including elements which were once widespread in medieval Greek before falling out of mainstream use. Since the same is true of the Asia Minor dialects, any points of agreement between the western and eastern peripheries are likely to be of significance for the reconstruction of the medieval vernacular. Of particular interest in this connection is the retention of infinitives in both South Italian and the Pontic dialects of the Muslim communities on the Black Sea Coast in the region of Trebizond. [...] Other archaisms shared by South Italian and Pontic include the avoidance of synizesis and the retention of the ancient aorist imperative in -σο(ν) [-so(n)] (replaced elsewhere with -σε [-se] modelled on imperfective -ε [-e]). The ancient aorist participle also survives in South Italian (in the modified and uninflected form "-sonda" familiar from medieval texts like the 'Chronicle of the Morea'), though many other features are peculiar to the region, e.g. the use of "tíspo" 'anyone' < τίς ποτε ['tispote], lit. 'anyone ever', parallel to the standard neuter τίποτε ['tipote] 'anything/nothing'. This alternative to κανείς [ka'nis] once again emphasizes the early independence of this dialect group from the mainstream.
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Except for the names that Horrocks gives to the two varieties in Calabria and Salento (in the first case there is actually a tendency to call it "Calabrian Greek", "Greko" or "Grecanico"; in the second, to call it "Salentine Greek" or "Griko"), I think what he wrote is an excellent summary of the situation (in Greece the two varieties are collectively known as "κατωιταλική διάλεκτος" - literally "the dialect of Southern Italy" - or "καλαβρέζικα" [lit. "Calabrian"]).
@@giuseppedelfino8246 thank you for sharing this. I will read it more in detail 🙏 I want to made a video about the Hellenic languages soon
So do U believe in the altaic theory?
I know that it’s a controversial one as it has lovers and haters. To me it seems super attractive and exciting. I guess I want to believe it.
I don't, rather I believe an Altaic Sprachbund is more likely.
@@ODKON93 most likely
Not a politically correct flag of Manchuria
How so?
@@turkchap it was used by the Empire of Japan when they occupied Manchuria
@@kevzortd8073 Didn’t know that
This flag is a legitimate flag used by Manchuria, and is still used by many Manchu to represent their culture and identity to this day. There is another blue, white, and black variant, but this one remains to be the most mainstream.
@@PerplexPrays No it's not. The only ones using this as something that they claim to represent "culture and identity to this day" is a self-proclaimed "Manchukuo government in exile" founded by two Han-Chinese Hong Kong dude in the 2000s out of simple spite for the Chinese government.
Get your friggin fact right.
Manchukuo had at it's height, like 30% ethnic Manchu. Most Manchus were happily settled in parts of China south of Beijing. If Manchukuo was such a representative symbol, you'd expect many more to have moved there during the 1930s......
Besides, the flag is adopted from the Beiyang flag of the ROC, how is that representative of anything?
As an ethnic Manchu, I gotta say, just because some dumbasses suck at history, does not give you the right to perpetuate their mistakes and dumb mistakes.
You know how dumb that statement is? It's literally like saying the coat of arms of East Germany represents Germanic "culture and identity".
滿狗被反噬，諷刺不？
My turk why do you say i am turkish be human not turkish
be turk not subhuman