@17:30 80% daily charging with the LR RWD is more usable range than the LFP RWD. 80% daily charging on the DM LR is exactly the same usable range as the LFP RWD. This thing is going to be a sweet road tripper. Efficiency with fast charging
This is my jammmm…my dream car, checks every box, I was sad when they removed it…and finally, they brought back, also the IRA ($7500), WhoHoo, I dig the color, range is king, 363miles wow, every cool place is @ least 120 miles away (240) round trip, Lincoln, Wichita, (MCI)Kansas City Airport from here in (MHK) Manhattan Ks, we have a lot of crosswind a few hills, I want to see if I can make it round trip to MCI (264) R/T @ 70, 75, and 80 mph…great show…btw my friend Valerie has 2018 RWD and lives in KC, so with snow tires no worries mate…peace
We had a rear wheel drive model 3 but now have an all wheel drive extended range. The first one was satisfactory but in rural northern Ontario deep snow we really notice the advantage of all wheel drive.
all the top speeds for the non performance dropped from 140mph to 125mph. ill never go that fast but i just want the option. actually just ordered mine today and im excited
For the sound system description it does not make any sense. The new LR RWD is both a rear wheel and long range and fits both descriptions for 9 or 17 speakers. So, what is it?????
I have been waiting for years now for them to bring the RWD LR back. I finally got tired of waiting and just bought a used M3 LR AWD. I no more than complete the paper work yesterday on it and this drops. I have the worst timing imaginable. I am glad they are finally bringing this car back. RANGE and fast charging speeds are king in an EV. Not only when new but over time as degradation happens you will have more usable range in the sweet center of the battery pack. People fixate on the LFP 100% charge, but that only tells a very small part of the total story. I am am still happy as I don't want the car without the stalks anyway, but just a bummer to have waited so long and to have my timing be this bad. LOL
You still got more power with the acceleration punch, better inclement weather traction, better sound system, interior etc. Slightly more range would be nice sure but its not a huge jump, cant go wrong either way
There will always be something newer and better when it comes to cars. Just enjoy what you have! Dont forget the journey it took for you to purchase something you love.
I have a 2018 Long range rear wheel drive. At the time it had premium interiors and sound system and rear wheel drive motor was the performance model spec rear drive unit. I'm wondering if the new long-range rear wheel drive is the same as the performance gen 4 rear wheel drive unit.
Does anyone know if this new variant is the 1) M3 RWD with a larger battery pack, or 2) the M3 long range without a front motor? Oh ... I guess Coleton just answered.
Tesla lists a few less miles range for the LG packs, vs. Panasonic. If you look at inventory for cars that qualify for the tax credit vs. cars that don't Tesla lists the ranges for both.
It is not 35k tho. It is over 40k MSRP. It it crazy how much Teslas cost for almost no tech or comfort inside beyond the general standard. It is just a highly subsidized product paid for with peoples money. In Europe you have half a dozen electric cars announced to start at 25k including taxes and fees(!) and without an extra 7.5k from the public hand. And you can buy at least 3 decent ones already for that price. Wtf is Tesla doing? Just sleeping on public money forever.
@@BBingo-v5i I bought 3 GM cars after the government bailout and have enjoyed not paying as much as other countries for gas so getting some of my tax dollars back is not new to me. My first Tesla did not have a tax credit because they ran out before i got mine but I did get $7500 off my second Tesla.
Back in 2015 the dual motor Model 2 had 270 mile EPA rating, and single motor had 265 miles, both with the same "85" pack (actually 82 kWh gross). Back then the single motor was induction, and was a previous generation design, so it did not get the efficiency advantage of today's permanent magnet single motor Teslas. The dual motor cars were both induction, but a newer and more reliable design.
Well 2nd time i've been bit by the tesla bug -- being a first purchases of a 2024 rwd, no tax credit (which we knew about). then they add the long range to the tax credit, and now this long range rwd model --- i feel sick to my stomach and this would have been the car i purchased. yes, i love the lfp battery, but for the road trip and premium sound this car is the car to get. So pissed
EV ownership is very complicated when you consider the financial costs. Significant depreciation affects the choice of buying or leasing a new car. Battery and other tech advances on the horizon come into play. Quality used options, no matter what the popular misinformation, have an incentive not to be left out. Getting through the next 2-3 years may seem like a lifetime to contemplate. Used under $25k with the $4k rebate may not be as exciting as new, it should be a serious consideration to mention when considering a first or even another ev. You should do the research to talk about it for your audience.
Actually, I think for a good perspective on this, check out the sister podcast Batteries Included and specifically the battery bargains shows, where they generally guide buyers to good interesting EV options including used
Tesla: pls buy the car pls buy the car, we added a New color, we gave you a long range rearwheeldrive, JUST BUY THE CAR MAN, WE DON‘T WANT TO ADD STALKS TO IT!!! They are gonna do EVERYTHING, including lowering prices, before they add stalks to it.
hat is going to be very popular if you don't need AWD. Like a race car driver out front who can manage his lead without stressing or overdriving his car aka the Cat and Mouse game, Tesla can probably do that better than any other EV manufacturer in the world. I bet they could announce the mythical $25K EV today if they had to. Elon can press the accelerator or cruise along as needed.
“I know many people won’t buy a Tesla for “whatever reason “. That’s right Francie, it’s that Musky stench. When the board moves to boot the 3rd reich-er I will consider it
Yikes. The Chevy Equinox is dead on arrival. With the frunk, im sure the model 3 has the exact same storage space. Unless you hate Tesla or Musk, no real reason not to get this deal. Just wish it was extended to us up north.
$39k... I dislike, extremely they price in energy savings. I'm willing to transition to EV thanks to the energy savings and maintenance savings. I decide how much to pull out of savings, so tell me the total costs.
@@External2737 If you click on Customize by the gas savings, change the Annual Miles Driven to 1 mile, and it will only have the tax credit savings, with $0 gas savings.
"The Best Model 3 Variant" - no its not. The RWDs have 9 x speakers & 1 x sub. I'd rather spend a lil more & get my 17 x speakers & 2 x sub in the AWD variant.
So let’s do some math. A veteran or their spouse get $1K discount from Tesla, then the 7500 discount and if you live in MA another 3K? Better if in CO. That’s a very low priced car.
Elmo is trying to run out the inventory. RWD in New England in the winter isn't so great. But I'm sure they will love this below the Mason-Dixon Line. Snap it up while you can before Elmo changes his mind ( again).
@@zachlafond2652 I drive in snow all the time with snow tires but with front wheel drive. Haven't had a RWD in a while. Just took a 2024 Model 3 AWD LR for a test spin the other day. Nice ride, a bit low, but much quieter than the Model Y and less plastic inside.
The charge curve is definitely worse than the other brands, but it got me thinking that it's probably for the ultimate longevity of the battery. Every EV hater loves to talk about how short a battery's lifespan is, so that could be Tesla's subtle response. On the other hand, Tesla also has the most reliable charging infrastructure compared to the others, which is why it mostly wins these OOS race to Vegas series.
Out of Spec Dave is going to be going nuts after hearing this.
Can't win every time in the Tesla lottery. Dave has "won" many times before and as I understand it he isn't eligible for the IRA deduction either.
😂😂😂
Per his X, he just bought one!
Wohoo! Francie strikes again with another great vid. She has become the most seen utuber on OOS group
Give her a raise
@17:30
80% daily charging with the LR RWD is more usable range than the LFP RWD.
80% daily charging on the DM LR is exactly the same usable range as the LFP RWD.
This thing is going to be a sweet road tripper. Efficiency with fast charging
This is my jammmm…my dream car, checks every box, I was sad when they removed it…and finally,
they brought back, also the IRA ($7500), WhoHoo, I dig the color, range is king, 363miles wow, every cool place is @ least 120 miles away (240) round trip, Lincoln, Wichita, (MCI)Kansas City Airport from here in (MHK) Manhattan Ks, we have a lot of crosswind a few hills, I want to see if I can make it round trip to MCI (264) R/T @ 70, 75, and 80 mph…great show…btw my friend Valerie has 2018 RWD and lives in KC, so with snow tires no worries mate…peace
We had a rear wheel drive model 3 but now have an all wheel drive extended range. The first one was satisfactory but in rural northern Ontario deep snow we really notice the advantage of all wheel drive.
I’d like to see someone do a comparison between the rwd and awd speakers. 9 vs 17
I want to see a full comparison - where RWD SR and AWD LR differ in specs, where does this car land? Max charging speeds for starters
@@albert109 …and throw in the RWD LR now!
My state won't allow non in state sales or leasing (WI). I wish tesla would open a dealership on one of the Indian Casinos we have all over the state.
Go to Minneapolis or Chicago. We bought in Minnesota. Only 2 hours from here.
Diggin' the intro's. Good info and perspective on new RWD LR.
all the top speeds for the non performance dropped from 140mph to 125mph. ill never go that fast but i just want the option. actually just ordered mine today and im excited
For the sound system description it does not make any sense. The new LR RWD is both a rear wheel and long range and fits both descriptions for 9 or 17 speakers. So, what is it?????
Whats the difference between long range awd and the long range rwd?
I have been waiting for years now for them to bring the RWD LR back. I finally got tired of waiting and just bought a used M3 LR AWD. I no more than complete the paper work yesterday on it and this drops. I have the worst timing imaginable. I am glad they are finally bringing this car back. RANGE and fast charging speeds are king in an EV. Not only when new but over time as degradation happens you will have more usable range in the sweet center of the battery pack. People fixate on the LFP 100% charge, but that only tells a very small part of the total story. I am am still happy as I don't want the car without the stalks anyway, but just a bummer to have waited so long and to have my timing be this bad. LOL
You still got more power with the acceleration punch, better inclement weather traction, better sound system, interior etc. Slightly more range would be nice sure but its not a huge jump, cant go wrong either way
There will always be something newer and better when it comes to cars. Just enjoy what you have! Dont forget the journey it took for you to purchase something you love.
that ev6 lease deal is nuts
Why is the lease of this new model not on the website?
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In all the areas where RWD and LR AWD differ, where does LR RWD land? 170 kW or 250 kW? 32A or 48A? Speakers? Interior?
Great job Francie
I have a 2018 Long range rear wheel drive. At the time it had premium interiors and sound system and rear wheel drive motor was the performance model spec rear drive unit. I'm wondering if the new long-range rear wheel drive is the same as the performance gen 4 rear wheel drive unit.
@ 0:48 Puerto Ricans are US citizens
Yep
Is that one of Kyle’s hoodies??😮
Here in Puerto Rico is needed those long range EVs, since charge infrastructure is poor, and the electric infrastructure is a crap.
But here in PR the $7500 is not available for buying, not sure if on lease side is available.
Federal Tax Credits don't apply in Puerto Rico as the residents don't file US Federal Taxes for income in PR.
Does anyone know if this new variant is the 1) M3 RWD with a larger battery pack, or 2) the M3 long range without a front motor? Oh ... I guess Coleton just answered.
Tesla lists a few less miles range for the LG packs, vs. Panasonic. If you look at inventory for cars that qualify for the tax credit vs. cars that don't Tesla lists the ranges for both.
Do you quality for the full 7500 tax credit as long as you’re under the income limit for point of sale? Or just partial depending on income
All or nothing
@@ElectricBrian oh damn that is good!
I am curious if it has the premium interior and audio or the partial, like the standard rwd..
From what I was just told by a Tesla SA.. as of now it currently just has the 9 speaker base interior trim
Al model 3 have exactly the same interior... Only more speakers in long range AWD that I absolutely don't care about
The $35,000 Tesla is here after all these years. Would be a good travel car.
ultimate road trip tesla.
I think they have had M3s under 35k for some time.
It is not 35k tho. It is over 40k MSRP. It it crazy how much Teslas cost for almost no tech or comfort inside beyond the general standard. It is just a highly subsidized product paid for with peoples money. In Europe you have half a dozen electric cars announced to start at 25k including taxes and fees(!) and without an extra 7.5k from the public hand. And you can buy at least 3 decent ones already for that price. Wtf is Tesla doing? Just sleeping on public money forever.
@@BBingo-v5iYou're forgetting the Chinese people's subsidies.
@@BBingo-v5i I bought 3 GM cars after the government bailout and have enjoyed not paying as much as other countries for gas so getting some of my tax dollars back is not new to me. My first Tesla did not have a tax credit because they ran out before i got mine but I did get $7500 off my second Tesla.
Back in 2015 the dual motor Model 2 had 270 mile EPA rating, and single motor had 265 miles, both with the same "85" pack (actually 82 kWh gross). Back then the single motor was induction, and was a previous generation design, so it did not get the efficiency advantage of today's permanent magnet single motor Teslas. The dual motor cars were both induction, but a newer and more reliable design.
So unless you want LFP, no reason not to go for long range?
Which battery is better ?
@@sergeynazaro1768 Panasonic 2170 better than LFP for charging, especially for cold weather.
Well 2nd time i've been bit by the tesla bug -- being a first purchases of a 2024 rwd, no tax credit (which we knew about).
then they add the long range to the tax credit, and now this long range rwd model --- i feel sick to my stomach and this would have been the car i purchased. yes, i love the lfp battery, but for the road trip and premium sound this car is the car to get. So pissed
Where on the order page does it show if this new Model 3 has the same sound system as the upper end models and fog lights?
@@ronolsberg1468 it does appear that all rwd only come with 9 speakers with the single amplifier - still, i feel bamboozeld. i love my car, but dang
EV ownership is very complicated when you consider the financial costs. Significant depreciation affects the choice of buying or leasing a new car. Battery and other tech advances on the horizon come into play. Quality used options, no matter what the popular misinformation, have an incentive not to be left out. Getting through the next 2-3 years may seem like a lifetime to contemplate. Used under $25k with the $4k rebate may not be as exciting as new, it should be a serious consideration to mention when considering a first or even another ev. You should do the research to talk about it for your audience.
Thanks you made my choice between new and used even more frustrating. 👍
Actually, I think for a good perspective on this, check out the sister podcast Batteries Included and specifically the battery bargains shows, where they generally guide buyers to good interesting EV options including used
Don't see a Lease option for the LR RWD trim,
Tesla: pls buy the car pls buy the car, we added a New color, we gave you a long range rearwheeldrive, JUST BUY THE CAR MAN, WE DON‘T WANT TO ADD STALKS TO IT!!!
They are gonna do EVERYTHING, including lowering prices, before they add stalks to it.
hat is going to be very popular if you don't need AWD. Like a race car driver out front who can manage his lead without stressing or overdriving his car aka the Cat and Mouse game, Tesla can probably do that better than any other EV manufacturer in the world. I bet they could announce the mythical $25K EV today if they had to. Elon can press the accelerator or cruise along as needed.
“I know many people won’t buy a Tesla for “whatever reason “. That’s right Francie, it’s that Musky stench. When the board moves to boot the 3rd reich-er I will consider it
Yikes. The Chevy Equinox is dead on arrival. With the frunk, im sure the model 3 has the exact same storage space. Unless you hate Tesla or Musk, no real reason not to get this deal. Just wish it was extended to us up north.
The $35,000 Tesla would be $27,500 after the tax credit. This is not a $35,000 Tesla.
It is if you do not qualify for the credit!
Inflation exists
$39k... I dislike, extremely they price in energy savings.
I'm willing to transition to EV thanks to the energy savings and maintenance savings. I decide how much to pull out of savings, so tell me the total costs.
@@External2737 If you click on Customize by the gas savings, change the Annual Miles Driven to 1 mile, and it will only have the tax credit savings, with $0 gas savings.
"The Best Model 3 Variant" - no its not. The RWDs have 9 x speakers & 1 x sub.
I'd rather spend a lil more & get my 17 x speakers & 2 x sub in the AWD variant.
just buy an upgrade to your sound system?
If you prioritize audio over range, then sure.
Know this: if you want the best overall EV experience, you buy a Tesla. If you buy something else for some stupid reason, thats on you.
So let’s do some math. A veteran or their spouse get $1K discount from Tesla, then the 7500 discount and if you live in MA another 3K? Better if in CO. That’s a very low priced car.
Elmo is trying to run out the inventory. RWD in New England in the winter isn't so great. But I'm sure they will love this below the Mason-Dixon Line. Snap it up while you can before Elmo changes his mind ( again).
Walgreens just called, your Elon-Derangement-Syndrome (EDS) meds are ready for pick up.
Dedicated snow tires. Drove a RWD in Wisconsin last winter. Snow tires are amazingly good even on rwd.
@@zachlafond2652 I drive in snow all the time with snow tires but with front wheel drive. Haven't had a RWD in a while. Just took a 2024 Model 3 AWD LR for a test spin the other day. Nice ride, a bit low, but much quieter than the Model Y and less plastic inside.
Tesla charge curves are trash. Perhaps we will see bad degradation in other brands in a few years, but for now it seems like a disadvantage.
The charge curve is definitely worse than the other brands, but it got me thinking that it's probably for the ultimate longevity of the battery. Every EV hater loves to talk about how short a battery's lifespan is, so that could be Tesla's subtle response. On the other hand, Tesla also has the most reliable charging infrastructure compared to the others, which is why it mostly wins these OOS race to Vegas series.