Rolex is massively overrated and overpriced. Don't care about inflation or what the market says. They're made on a conveyor belt and there's nothing rate about them. Sure, they're very well built but you're only paying for marketing. Tudor is far cooler and better value.
Word. Although I think the big three sports watches of Omega, Rolex and Tudor all betray their heritage but making designs that don't wear well, and leave out features. I'd love to be CEO of all three and fix so many pieces. They really don't deserve to have the heritage that they are custodians of. Really disappointing.
I find the comments about Breitling being overrated are grossly exaggerated and desperate, as if 'somebody' was tiptoe around it. How can Breitling be overrated when they get pretty much zero love or admonishment from any critics or industry elitists? I think its a terrible response. Personally I would have said Richard Mille or Audmers Piguet, of which both are easily justified as incredibly overrated.
My favorite watch of this year was made the young Japanese watchmaker J.S. Elliot. He is just 17 years old and recently released his first watch! Im very curious to see what he can make down the road.
Great series with a lot of insight! I love your guys' honesty and lack of fear of saying things wrong. You say it how it is, which has become clearly rare these days.
I’m totally with Thomas on the Octo Finissimo: it’s way too big. I’ve got a 7 inch wrist and I used to rock a couple of 45.5 mm Planet Oceans (love those handsome beasts!) so I’m well comfortable with big chunky watches on my wrist. However, the Octo Finissimo isnt a tool watch. The current size takes up way too much space on the wrist to look elegant. Which is such a shame as it could’ve been the last word in svelteness.
Way to much hype for AP, not enough hype for Longines. I know one super luxury, the other entry luxury. Stop hating on Tag. They are certainly getting better.
Digest that? Sure. You were lucky. They don't mention such a spec and most anecdotal evidence isn't so positive. That means that when you send it for servicing, you can expect it to return less accurate than new.
Exactly, He is lucky - Because if PRX does not perform, you cant even service it. It's a "use and dump" mechanical watch, a paradoxon we shall not reward or allow@@shuycg
It’s a fine watch considering the price. Kudos to Tissot for putting to market an attractive, affordable, and well made watch. Not everyone can afford or want to pay for a tier one brand.
The questions was more where to buy not where to wear and in that case there’s possibly not better city then London. The huge variety of possibilities is immense.
@@excention7338thats doesnt matter. There are literally hundreds of videos of robberies happening in the "safest" streets. London police has said there are over 8 different watch robbery gangs in London alone. Its mainly moped / motorcycle snatch and grabs with multiple scouts.
Great views. Thanks! Re overated, .............. is it just me, or is the answer Patek Philippe? I have held many, but in every case it's been disappointing?
2000s Breitlings were way better watches than the mainstream major players. Haven't seen any improvement with the new management except if you consider tudor collab a plus
Most intersting, and possibly best, integrated sports bracelet is Sarpaneva. It suits their case so well which is not an easy feat given the odd case shape.
@@Chrono24Official The TAG Heuer lightbox Carreras - the blue, black and skipper. Outstanding! Only gripe is for that kind of moolah, they need to at least chronometer certified. Every Breitling is chronometer certified, Omega is mostly METAS, Tudor is going all in METAS.... TAG where are you on the chronometer certs?! Also 21mm lug with is... c'mon shave off 1mm please!
Good conversation. I got distracted by the tossing of the question cards on the floor, with virtually every answer, from the guy on the right. It got me wondering: Are there staffing plebs that have to pick these up after the filming? (Like happens on a late night TV show with famous comedians - which is where I am guessing he copied this from anyway). Or do they they have to pick up these cards themselves later?? OR, just leave them for the cleaning crew? Dying to know!!!!!!
Surprised nobody mentioned VC for overrated - quality is really a bit underwhelming for its alleged position which is supposed to be in line with PP and AP
yeah! Arnold & Son Perpetual Moon getting recognition. I picked a black one up last month and love it. Very comfortable and such a stunner to look at all day.
Sorry, but many of the answers, including those at 2:45, lack depth. There's a trend of brands fabricating their histories or new companies acquiring old names and claiming a legacy they weren't part of. It's important to acknowledge genuine contributions in watchmaking history. Your response seems to overlook some key contributions of Breitling to watchmaking. For instance, the two-button chronograph, a standard now, was first introduced by Breitling in the early 1940s, long before other renowned brands like Zenith, Omega, or Rolex entered this space. It's important to note that brands like Rolex initially used movements from others, such as Zenith, for their chronographs. Moreover, Breitling's lack of marketing about their rich history might be why their significant contributions are less known. Notably, they were also one of the few brands to consistently obtain COSC certification for all their watches, including quartz models. This demonstrates their commitment to precision and quality across their range.
@@daverauti1170 oh should I? Sorry I didn't realize you were the watch comment Stasi. Apologies for not providing context on command for you, please don't have me arrested, oh morally righteous one.
The Octo Finissimo was the worst watch I ever tried on in person. I never took a watch off so quick in my life. Ugly, flat , wide, horrible looking on wrist. I think it's a cool looking watch until you try it on.
Thomas your head is way too big for your body. Some angles it looked like you had been photoshopped to make your head 50% bigger and your hands 50% smaller. Then I realized that’s just normal 😂
AP are so overrated.
Hear, hear!
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There's definitely an argument to be made here. However, vintage (non-Royal Oak) AP watches are still underrated
@@Chrono24Official Agreed but vintage AP is almost a different brand these days. It's so different when compared to its contemporary.
@@timcarlstrand5890 good point by both of you!
Rolex is massively overrated and overpriced. Don't care about inflation or what the market says. They're made on a conveyor belt and there's nothing rate about them. Sure, they're very well built but you're only paying for marketing. Tudor is far cooler and better value.
So true
Word. Although I think the big three sports watches of Omega, Rolex and Tudor all betray their heritage but making designs that don't wear well, and leave out features. I'd love to be CEO of all three and fix so many pieces. They really don't deserve to have the heritage that they are custodians of. Really disappointing.
Breitling is hardly overated!
I find the comments about Breitling being overrated are grossly exaggerated and desperate, as if 'somebody' was tiptoe around it. How can Breitling be overrated when they get pretty much zero love or admonishment from any critics or industry elitists? I think its a terrible response. Personally I would have said Richard Mille or Audmers Piguet, of which both are easily justified as incredibly overrated.
Rolex is crazy overrated
As should have been stated by the fearless presenters
@@michaelriera6277 4:45
My favorite watch of this year was made the young Japanese watchmaker J.S. Elliot. He is just 17 years old and recently released his first watch! Im very curious to see what he can make down the road.
Great series with a lot of insight! I love your guys' honesty and lack of fear of saying things wrong. You say it how it is, which has become clearly rare these days.
Great format and conversation. One of the best watch videos I've seen, and I've seen many many watch videos. More like this!
Diffrent vibe from other channels ... like it: more subdued, with different layers and still opinionated ... great!
Rolex is (Overrated pro max plus )² × ♾️
I love how very honestly opinionated you both were, no bias was obvious whatsoever.
Keep up the great work!
I’m totally with Thomas on the Octo Finissimo: it’s way too big. I’ve got a 7 inch wrist and I used to rock a couple of 45.5 mm Planet Oceans (love those handsome beasts!) so I’m well comfortable with big chunky watches on my wrist. However, the Octo Finissimo isnt a tool watch. The current size takes up way too much space on the wrist to look elegant. Which is such a shame as it could’ve been the last word in svelteness.
to each their own..I own an Octo Finissimo and I adore it. It's my everyday watch and I can't get enough. It's amazingly comfortable and durable.
Way to much hype for AP, not enough hype for Longines. I know one super luxury, the other entry luxury. Stop hating on Tag. They are certainly getting better.
All the hipster watch collectors hate on Tag and Breitling. It’s the cool thing to do. Herd mentality.
"At least the CEO (of TAG) doesn't want to be a Superstar" .... He's a billionaire, so I think hes already a Superstar 😂🤣
He’s not a billionaire
@@frozenfenix0 Frédéric Arnault was the CEO at the time of the comment.
I was shocked to hear Breitling as overrated. They may have the best chronographs on the market. Agree on FP Journe.
Arguably 2nd best only to Zenith, but otherwise I agree completely
The tissot prx keeps the best time of any watch I own. Its around +2 a day. At $700. digest that
Digest that? Sure. You were lucky. They don't mention such a spec and most anecdotal evidence isn't so positive.
That means that when you send it for servicing, you can expect it to return less accurate than new.
Exactly, He is lucky - Because if PRX does not perform, you cant even service it. It's a "use and dump" mechanical watch, a paradoxon we shall not reward or allow@@shuycg
@@shuycg 👍👍
It’s a fine watch considering the price. Kudos to Tissot for putting to market an attractive, affordable, and well made watch. Not everyone can afford or want to pay for a tier one brand.
Accuracy and precision are two very different things. Digest that.
London is one of the last places i would recommend someone to buy a watch. Over 6000 luxury watch robberies in London in 2022...
The questions was more where to buy not where to wear and in that case there’s possibly not better city then London. The huge variety of possibilities is immense.
@@excention7338thats doesnt matter. There are literally hundreds of videos of robberies happening in the "safest" streets. London police has said there are over 8 different watch robbery gangs in London alone. Its mainly moped / motorcycle snatch and grabs with multiple scouts.
Diversity redistribution
@@PeteNice29 how do you say you are a white nationalist while not so cleverly trying to hide it?
Great views. Thanks!
Re overated, .............. is it just me, or is the answer Patek Philippe? I have held many, but in every case it's been disappointing?
2000s Breitlings were way better watches than the mainstream major players. Haven't seen any improvement with the new management except if you consider tudor collab a plus
So true. Something very special about Schneider era Breitling.
Great video guys 👏 “pretty, but useless “ 😂
So true!
The most campest episode ever! But did love it 😂
The bromance is real
that GP!
6:17 What is the name of F.P. Journe hands? I heard "typographywise" but I googled for that and couldn't find any references online.
Best dial color: black. Best complication: chronograph. SPOT ON.
BS about TAG Heuer. The glassbox Carrera is simply stunning.
Most intersting, and possibly best, integrated sports bracelet is Sarpaneva. It suits their case so well which is not an easy feat given the odd case shape.
Its fairly obvious to ke that some brands pay for plugs while others dont and never will
So many great releases this year and you pick two of the most overrated watches ever 🤦♂️
What's yours?
@@Chrono24Official The TAG Heuer lightbox Carreras - the blue, black and skipper. Outstanding! Only gripe is for that kind of moolah, they need to at least chronometer certified. Every Breitling is chronometer certified, Omega is mostly METAS, Tudor is going all in METAS.... TAG where are you on the chronometer certs?! Also 21mm lug with is... c'mon shave off 1mm please!
The Reverso is ghetto, and that Tudor is basic af.
Zenith Defy Glacier dial.
Good stuff Thomas and Balazs...👍
The Breitling, American Muscle car colab is fantastic!
I got the first version of the Corvette, and I could not be more pleased
surprised to hear thomas not familiar with octo solotempo, discontinued line of basically a smaller but thicker octo finissimo
Ah yes! I forgot about that in the moment. I'd still love to see a 36mm Octo that wears like a 38mm (please please please!)
Love this series
Good conversation. I got distracted by the tossing of the question cards on the floor, with virtually every answer, from the guy on the right. It got me wondering: Are there staffing plebs that have to pick these up after the filming? (Like happens on a late night TV show with famous comedians - which is where I am guessing he copied this from anyway). Or do they they have to pick up these cards themselves later?? OR, just leave them for the cleaning crew? Dying to know!!!!!!
Glad to see more of these longer format videos!
Nice video chaps well done 😊 more of these pleeeease … 🎉
Interesting that a single Seiko mentioned
Surprised nobody mentioned VC for overrated - quality is really a bit underwhelming for its alleged position which is supposed to be in line with PP and AP
Really enjoyed the review and banter guys - great fun.
Absolutely right about the Doxa Dive watch👏👏👏
Fun episode!
loved this vid, please do some more, great chemistry between you to.
yeah! Arnold & Son Perpetual Moon getting recognition. I picked a black one up last month and love it. Very comfortable and such a stunner to look at all day.
Rolex is overrated for where they are imo
Rolex is not over rated it is just overpriced on the secondary market 😊😢
Blancpain is overrated
Really enjoyed that conversation, it was very organic and natural. Great job guys!
Most over rated by far = RM
Rolex is overrated
We can all agree to disagree, i like the mixed commentary and opinions. Great video!
Black dial
Sorry, but many of the answers, including those at 2:45, lack depth. There's a trend of brands fabricating their histories or new companies acquiring old names and claiming a legacy they weren't part of. It's important to acknowledge genuine contributions in watchmaking history.
Your response seems to overlook some key contributions of Breitling to watchmaking. For instance, the two-button chronograph, a standard now, was first introduced by Breitling in the early 1940s, long before other renowned brands like Zenith, Omega, or Rolex entered this space. It's important to note that brands like Rolex initially used movements from others, such as Zenith, for their chronographs. Moreover, Breitling's lack of marketing about their rich history might be why their significant contributions are less known. Notably, they were also one of the few brands to consistently obtain COSC certification for all their watches, including quartz models. This demonstrates their commitment to precision and quality across their range.
They are just parroting the hate on Breitling view without much independent thought.
Brietling make beautiful watches but their pricing is too high for where they are in the market. I think they're overrated as well.
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@@cdb5001Breitling doesn't pay for plugs. And if you think they're overpriced you should provide a little context, if you think you can.
@@daverauti1170 oh should I? Sorry I didn't realize you were the watch comment Stasi. Apologies for not providing context on command for you, please don't have me arrested, oh morally righteous one.
guys thank you… great format… please continue 👍👍👍
Awesome content and great answers 🙌🏻👍🏻
Integrated bracelet watches? No.
Like me it's pretty and useless. So good.
I go for JLC reverso duo.. timeless, elegant and simply unique !
😂😂😂
You had me at- perlon strap will destroy the hallmarks of your precious metal hardware. What? I will try hard to remember that....for sure.😂
The Octo is definitely too big. A miss when in reality, it's a design icon.
So nice to see Balazs again!
Oh that JLC reverso is a fantastic choice.
You guys are so predictable.
The Octo Finissimo was the worst watch I ever tried on in person. I never took a watch off so quick in my life. Ugly, flat , wide, horrible looking on wrist. I think it's a cool looking watch until you try it on.
Thomas your head is way too big for your body. Some angles it looked like you had been photoshopped to make your head 50% bigger and your hands 50% smaller. Then I realized that’s just normal 😂
Thanks. I'll wear my other head for the next video.
Hahahaha what
@@Chrono24OfficialPerfect answer to this douchbag. Bravo! 😉
You know what they say about guys with big heads...