I have about 26k now on my 2023 sport touring hatch 6mt. These new civics are such competent and fun to drive vehicles, no matter the trim. Aside from a few random interior rattles and replaced drivers seatbelt that would no longer retract, it's been flawless. Averaging 34 MPG for the life of the vehicle so even non-hybrid these things sip fuel.
when you do the keyless entry and the back door didn't open, you have to change a setting on the dash or in the info screen to make it unlock all doors or just the driver door.
My late Honda Fit was also uncomfortable on long trips with its lack of lumbar support, until I stuffed an air bladder into the seat back and connected it to a blood pressure pump. BOOM!..ghetto lumbar support!
Thanks for the drive--it was nice. The Civic hybrid seems to satisfy its sporty-pleasant-economical niche particularly well. I like smooth and quiet, and the hybrid seems exceptionally so for that segment. Stylish, refined, quality--seems like a smart buy. I'd go for the hatchback.
I drive an RS5, the v8 one. Once it's paid off I am getting one of these as my daily (the hatchback). Just a solid daily that you don't have to think about and it still a little fun. Honda really did it with the hybrid. Good stuff
@@LoveLikeaHurricane Its a 0.8 kwh battery ..=? the replacement is 1200$ ... Call Honda and ask them . In europe we have 10 years warranty to the battery .
Just got mine last month and I am really enjoying it! 1k miles down and many more to go. Definitely recommend it. My average mpg is around 46mpg which is insane!
@@Mr_GiLL83 i went to my toyota dealer, negotiated about $1600 below MSRP in about 30 minutes, and picked up the car the very next week brand new from factory, no real wait
This civic is almost as heavy as my ex 2015 altima sl. Very heavy and quick civic, must be really nice to drive. I have the crv with same powertrain and it is pretty amazing.
Very nice review. I have a 23 Accord EX-L and love it. It's been very reliable and a great gas saver at 45-50 mpg consistently. The new hybrid Civic is a great alternative if you are OK with a smaller car.
If you hold the regen braking down in Econ mode, it'll actually lock it in place. But also, when you place the vehicle in Sport mode, hold the brake, push the gas pedal all the way in, and the vehicle will actually launch for you, giving you 100% RPMs all the way up until you let off the gas. Then after that, if you do not hit the brakes, it'll stay engaged, and there's only one open CVT motor that's opened up full 100% throttle from zero to top out. It's a pretty amazing car. The Accord hybrid also!
I can definitely get 46.8 mpg in my 2024 sport, but if you drove my car the same way you drove this Hybrid, you'd be getting low 30s, and if I drove this Hybrid the way I drive my sport, I'd be getting low 60s.
He's in Michigan...where the speed limit is just a suggestion...but good point...it would be nice to see what this car can do when you go steady 65 or 70 for a whole tank.
@@Localtraveler2376And less torque! At minimum they should’ve increased horsepower to somewhat match the Elantra N and still have higher power relative to the Civic range.
Such a beautiful generation of the Civic. Quickly becoming one of my favorites. (I've long since gotten over the feeling of "the Civic is becoming the Accord!")
Honda skimps out on a lot of features in the US that are available on their models overseas. The CR-V is a great example: here in the US, we only have the choice between the standard ICE, hybrid, and now the fuel cell EV (only available in California, so you could honestly just remove that one from the lineup and it wouldn't affect 95% of the country). If you go over to Europe, you can get a CR-V plug-in hybrid that has panoramic sunroof, rear storage compartment where the battery is, 360 cameras, ventilated seats, heads up display, and probably other features I'm forgetting. NONE of that is available on a CR-V here in North America. I just got a 2025 CR-V hybrid, but I would've loved to get a plug-in hybrid if that were an option.
Oh nice, ann arbor! Go Blue 💙 Also LOL about your fusion hybrid brake comment. Yup! Takes getting used to. I owned a 2013 ffh and now a 2019. They're great hybrids but man the brakes take a lot of skill lmao
17 inch RPF1's (15 pounds) would be perfect for this car, it would be a 15 pound reduction in unsprung weight which will help acceleration, braking, feel, and suspension efficiency.
13:06 it's HEAVILY iSoC (indicated state-of-charge) and power demand based. When the engine kicked in at 11 mph, you were at 30% iSoC and the power-meter was at %5 and going up. At 50% iSoC and above, the engine-on threshold is 12.5% power (on the gauge.) It linearly drops to 0 power below ~50% iSoC, reaching 0 at 20-25% iSoC. 14:10 shows this behavior. 40% iSoC, power-meter at about 10-11% before the ICE lights.
glad they fixed the ground clearance issue on the 11th gen. my 10th gen scrapes the front bumper literally everywhere, including most parking spaces with the little concrete barriers. cant pull out of a lot of gas stations without going super slow.
Damn, all the cars are really just getting larger and larger. VW Polos are now the size of the OG Golf, and this thing is pretty massive compared to the old civics
I'm shopping right now to replace my 2007 Honda civic si v-tech. Based on what I keep seeing, I'm grabbing the 6 speed manual si. Some people say it's "inconvenient" to operate a manual tranny, but from what I see my opinion is that it's far less inconvenient than fiddling with countless unnecessary frills that only distract you from driving the car. Which, of course, is the main reason you bought the product in the first place. Point A to point B shouldn't require the same attention and tech know how as a personal jet.
Don’t forget to mention how this car kills your back. If you have back issues don’t get this car it’s a pain. I had many people drive my car long distances say the same thing as well as online you will see people saying the same thing.
100%, bought a 2022 touring sedan for my oldest a few years ago and I can barely drive it for more than 30minutes. Looking to buy this 2025 hybrid for my younger one though. They don't seem to mind.
This is incredible. I hope this makes acura make the integra better. Like maybe offering a 10-speed instead of a junk cvt. And making the type s even better. Or even imagine if they put a detunes civic Si engine in an integra and added the 10-speed. So it’s like a 10th gen accord in a smaller more agile package 🤯. There’s no reason they shouldn’t do that. But they won’t.
It isn't a cvt, it is just marketed as such since the operation sounds like one. That is the only similarity. The hybrids use, as stated in the video, a direct drive transmission coupled with an electric motor. Up to about 62mph, the electric motor moves the wheels while the gas engine turns a generator providing electricity for the electric motor. Over that speed, the gas engine gets coupled to the direct drive at a different ratio via clutch to drive the wheels alongside the electric motor. This system is super simple in its operation and should be one of the more reliable drivetrain options on the market alongside the Toyota hybrid options. As long as the electric motor and generator hold up that is.
@@taco111tacobrushless motors are indestructible. They will easily last the life of the car, there are 25-year-old Priuses out there with 300K miles that are still on their original transmissions.
the only thing holding me back is the repair costs for a hybrid. Try finding a mechanic who'll work on your hybrid car without charging you an arm an a leg but to be honest that's not honda's fault
9:55 If you hold the regen paddle down for threeish seconds then click it to set the level of regen you want it should keep it at that level during the drive. I have an accord hybrid and that’s how it works there. Not sure if it’s different for the civic.
I have this exact car omg $28-$35 to fill it up depending where you live im in LA area so you know its expensive here but ever since i bought this car im like damn when am I gonna fill it up it the gas meter goes down so slow I remember filling it up and taking it to the beach which was around 13 miles from my house then not seeing the gas meter bar not even go down one bar is insane to me it didnt for like a couple days like damn 😭
But weak for a hybrid though tbh. My Ioniq Hybrid gets into the mid 60s without much effort. Sure it doesn’t have 200 horsepower, but it’s not like I don’t have enough power.
@@General_M Agreed. My 2013 Prius can easily achieve 50mpg. Yeah, it doesn't have as much power as this Civic and it's definitely not as sporty but this type of mileage is nothing new for a hybrid.
I did my math and over the course of 125k miles the difference of the "savings" in gas of this car vs a civic sport is minimal considering you'll likely have to replace the hybrid battery, and maintenance on that battery as well.
I've noticed with my HRV that with the radar cruise control, the car would either slam on the gas at 100% to get back up to speed or break really hard when coming up behind someone. Not really an enjoyable experience.
@@TechMaster2133If it’s just programming, it would be nice if they could retroactively update previous model years that have the same Honda Sensing technology.
17:32 While it is a Civic. You can ask for a 360 cam and rear airvent. It's almost $32k for the top trim Sport Touring. Hyundai/Kia group has 360 cam on their Elantra and K4. Honda and other Japanese automakers needs to offer more value for their car in terms of tech. We know that mechanical reliability is top notch with Honda and Toyota. They need to stop riding on their established reputation and innovate on the tech front. I'm speaking from 20yr of owning Honda, Acura, Toyota, and Lexus.
If all other factors were equal between the Civic and Hyundai/Kia you might have a point, but they are not equal as vehicles. Since you’ve owned Hondas you understand the superior technology in the powertrains, packaging, reliability, etc. Hyundai/Kia don’t have those and rely on tech to create higher perceived value, since higher end vehicles do include such packages. They chose to add tech and spend money there than to invest in other aspects of their vehicles and to differentiate themselves because they had to. But not everyone wants all that tech and it’s definitely not a necessity. A 360 cam in a Civic? Look out your windows, rely on yourself. My friend who has a Kia had nearly gotten into fender benders BECAUSE he was relying too much on this “assistance” tech. Honda doesn’t need to offer that specific option on a Civic. I’d much rather take superior engine and powertrain tech over needless assistants. People expect too much these days because we have too many options, and that’s not always a good thing. And I think a lot of people aren’t factoring in the inflation we’ve had and that $32k today is not as much as we think it is. For the market, the Civic is still a great value.
@@The1SSGrant look at modern Honda and Toyota. They’re clearly more complex and don’t last as long. Tech adds value. If you don’t like extra features, then don’t get them. It should be an option. Why would anyone pay more for less features. We expect more because we want to keep our cars for long. Yes yes all know Hyundai/Kia/Genesis lures customers in with lots of standard equipments for the lack of mechanical reliability (re-read OP). The point is Japanese automakers need to have better tech and software while keeping reliable mechanicals to outpace the Koreans, Euro, and American automakers.
got my 2020 honda accord and the only thing i can say abt it is that i was dissapointed that the speed guage was only in kph other than that it has been amazing. Sport mode goes crazy boost guage is satisfying and amazing top teir sound stystem.
You don't notice the car switching to the ICE because it doesn't ever take over propulsion until 40mph If I read correctly. At that point you are on a highway on-ramp and wouldn't pay attention to the change.
Okay, now that you have driven both the Civic and the Elantra hybrids, which one do you prefer? Keeping pricing, features and everything into account. It's hard to beat the Civic but some features of the Elantra are really nice to have and honestly I'd like your opinion as a journalist
I noticed with my 2019 Ioniq also that if I kicked it into sport mode and used the paddle shifters the regen would replenish the battery super quick and then I would be back into ev mode within about 5mins of driving.
Interior is almost same as in my new CRV hybrid in EU except gear shifter is fully electronic. Plus has heads up display and seat ventilation with panoramic roof. Oddly in North America version CRV has half analog cockpit display
I've heard that the new honda hybrids are driven by the electric motors only, and that there's only a final drive gear that connects the engine to the wheels. So there's basically no motor to engine transition
When I was looking between the accord hybrid or sonata hybrid, and how each works. The accord hybrid would drive off the electric motor exclusively, using the motor as a generator until around 45mph. Then the motor had a "clutch" that would allow it to drive the wheels directly in conjunction with the electric motor over that 45mph for 'highway' speed driving. From what you're saying, the civic here exclusively drives the electric motor and the motor only provides power, no connection to the drivetrain. So besides the motor noise, it's a "EV" experience?
I wish we had some expectation of this as a Winter vehicle. Tires, handling, battery performance, and range at well below freezing in snow are things I'd love to know about. Surely the Euro Civic Hybrids have Winter experience now? Are they wildly different machines?
Why would you upgrade to an Accord? For a couple of extra dooddads it's a negligible option. It would be nice if you could spec it out with option groups vis a vis rear vents,hvac,ubc, etc. IMO, the Civic is better looking than the Accord. An integrated infotainment with higher resolution would be nice.It looks cheap and tacked on as is. Question...would a manual shifter work in a hybrid?
Primarily I would assume it’s because the Accord is a more premium sedan. Although with how big the Civic is getting it almost seems negligible for a lot of families.
It's possible with some hybrids, but not with Honda's current i-MMD system, since the engine basically just drives a generator, or is direct drive at highway speeds
Do you really need to manually select a more intense option for regen braking* in ECO mode in order to use it?! AFAIK... Hondas will engage regen braking automatically when you press your brake pedal, and unless you put a reasonable force in it (or the car is about to stop) the calipers won't engage!
Actually I was wondering the exact same question. I'm pretty sure it's better for stopping at long-ranges, and sometimes when going down ramps or hills, because it's probably better than applying a strong brake force with strong BUT short regenerative braking, so they probably saw it was better to have a weaker, but LONGER regenerative braking. I don't think Honda has mentioned this but this is what I'm thinking.
@@fwkl Whether if it's an electrified or good old gas car, slowly accelerating or decelerating will always be more efficient in the whole of the mechanical components (brakes, suspension, chassis, brake pads, brake rotors, etc). For electrified cars in what's related to regen braking there's a bit more to it. In an electric/hybrid car project there's a limit of power a motor/generator can output/generate (decelerating in this case would generate electricity when using the rotational movement/resistance of the generator axis to generate energy), how much energy the battery (and capacitors maybe?) can input, and how much heat the whole system can take and dissipate. The faster the system regenerates energy the higher the heat output (in the motor, cables, battery), consequently reducing the amount of energy the system can take over a window of time. Braking more gently, along a bigger distance will: 1) Generate less heat in the electric system 2) Dissipate the heat output over a wider time window, allowing the system to store energy more efficiently (less heat being generated means less wasted energy) 3) Allow the motor/generator to do most (if not all) of the braking with its energy generation capacity If the braking needs exceeds the regen braking capacity or what the electrical system is engineered to take in (or some other corner case like the battery already being full?) then the mechanical braking system will be activated!
@@Danevils No. If you are talking about what he said in the garage, it only applies to pedal shifters. Your brake pedal will always regen on the first part. What sport does is it remembers what regen intensity you selected previously from pedal shifters and will apply that each time you let off gas. On other modes, if you want to slow with regen from pedal shifters, you will have to select intensity each time you want to slow down.
@@theblitz1687 Yes, you're correct. Still, it won't change much using sport or normal/eco mode for regen, since regen is always used first even when pressing the brakes. The lack of memory for the gas-off regen intensity setting (using the paddle shifters) is totally Honda being dumb IMHO... A more aggressive setting allows the driver to single-pedal-drive more often, which is more efficient!
If you want bigger screens, then you should be careful what you wish for, because brands like Subaru and Lexus has granted that wish at the expense of physical buttons, which translates to worse ergonomics
"its a cozy ride" Going down a war torn street that looks like its been bombed. DC has some areas like this and ive been driving on BMW M (m3 -> x5m), and now M lite (m240) stiff suspensions. I know this isnt the segment to look but current roads make me just want a silent and perfectly smooth ride.
The Camry and the Civic aren't a direct competitors. Compared to a Corolla, the road noise is very similar. If we're talking about the Camry, the Accord would be a better comparison.
@@superbros1690you have “A” civic, but you don’t have the 2025 hybrid touring, which adds sound deadening and active noise cancellation, making it more quiet than the regular civics. So without test in each car, we don’t know the answer. Could be the camry, but still…
What do you know about the steering recall ?? It's been stopping me from the Honda. On the Honda recall web site it states the 2025 civic hybrid sedans need to have a steering part replaced.
I had a 2019 Accord Hybrid and loved it except for one element: the seats. I roadtrip often and after a couple hours, I was in pain from stiff uncomfortable seats. This is not the case in my BMW 4 Series. Thoughts on whether this Civic improves on Honda seats of yore?
I don't think "It's 32 grand, it's a Civic" is a good enough excuse for the car to not have hood struts. When I bought my Civic hatchback in 2020, the top of the line Civic was around $28k before discounts. Now that we're well into the $30k price range for the Civic, it's time for them to stop skimping out on stuff like this, otherwise people will go elsewhere.
When buying a car, do you guys wait for the facelift refresh models? It seems like car companies always shorted the first half generation with accessories.
If you were looking to get a second vehicle for doing road trips would you get something like the Civic/Camry/Sonata or something like a G70/CT5/S5/CLA? No daily commute, just something for the weekends.
It's a cool car but the manual transmission is way way cooler and it's a shame they dropped it this year for the hybrid. I'm happy at least the Si and Type R still offer the manual. Save the manuals!
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NOT only did that guy pull out in front of you, he blew the red light.
I would have laid my horn, lol.
He blew every stop sign and the red light. Amazing scenes
The neighborhoods in the direction the car was heading towards weren't... great
Such craziness on the roads these days. No one is paying attention.
I have about 26k now on my 2023 sport touring hatch 6mt. These new civics are such competent and fun to drive vehicles, no matter the trim. Aside from a few random interior rattles and replaced drivers seatbelt that would no longer retract, it's been flawless. Averaging 34 MPG for the life of the vehicle so even non-hybrid these things sip fuel.
Glad Im not the only one with the drivers seatbelt retraction issue!
@@MichaelThP I had it replaced under warranty a couple months ago and the replacement is already doing it again 🤦♂️
The ridiculous amount of rattles made me return my 2023
I love my 24 Si, same thing with the occasional panel rattle but I've been averaging about 35-36 MPG throughout its lifetime.
Sipping fuel is a relative concept. Anywhere but North America 34mpg is OK-ish…in the 1980s!
when you do the keyless entry and the back door didn't open, you have to change a setting on the dash or in the info screen to make it unlock all doors or just the driver door.
Yep, did this on mine since my friends/family are always pulling at the door handles to be let in.
can't you just hit the unlock twice on the remote ? once for the driver door and twice for all doors. that's how my 2013 Accord works.
@@riseabove3082 yes but to do keyless entry you have to do that
You can touch the front handle twice to unlock all the doors by default (I think, I do on mine but I might have changed that a long time ago)
Urban and sport are overused.... the car is just grey.
Soon they will start adding more to the color.. "urban forecast raining foggy potholes grey"
Simplfy it, I like the "pothole grey", sounds fancy.
So you want them to just call it grey? Also what other companies uses the word urban in their colors?
Its grey with gold flakes , super noticeable in the sun or up close , way different then normal grey
If you saw it alongside the metallic grey, you’d see it’s different. Urban is a fitting name to the shade imo.
@@Simon-kz4dv Let me trade mark ...Pothole grey
My late Honda Fit was also uncomfortable on long trips with its lack of lumbar support, until I stuffed an air bladder into the seat back and connected it to a blood pressure pump. BOOM!..ghetto lumbar support!
Man your videos feel so well put together, keep up that work man 👍
Just put a $1000 down to get a 2025 Civic Hatchback in Boost blue. Should be in next week.
Thanks for the drive--it was nice. The Civic hybrid seems to satisfy its sporty-pleasant-economical niche particularly well. I like smooth and quiet, and the hybrid seems exceptionally so for that segment. Stylish, refined, quality--seems like a smart buy. I'd go for the hatchback.
I drive an RS5, the v8 one. Once it's paid off I am getting one of these as my daily (the hatchback). Just a solid daily that you don't have to think about and it still a little fun. Honda really did it with the hybrid. Good stuff
only thing holding it back is cost of battery replacement in the future, and also a lack of spare tire.
Wtf are you talkong about@@LoveLikeaHurricane
@@LoveLikeaHurricane Its a 0.8 kwh battery ..=? the replacement is 1200$ ... Call Honda and ask them .
In europe we have 10 years warranty to the battery .
Just got mine last month and I am really enjoying it! 1k miles down and many more to go. Definitely recommend it. My average mpg is around 46mpg which is insane!
My 2025 Camry average is 53, and it’s bigger, more comfortable
@@joshuabales2354 I didn’t ask
@@prthunderr lol, stay jelly til smelly!
@joshuabales2354 Camry is more expensive and wait time is about an year so fk toyota and we are Good with Honda
@@Mr_GiLL83 i went to my toyota dealer, negotiated about $1600 below MSRP in about 30 minutes, and picked up the car the very next week brand new from factory, no real wait
This civic is almost as heavy as my ex 2015 altima sl. Very heavy and quick civic, must be really nice to drive. I have the crv with same powertrain and it is pretty amazing.
Very nice review. I have a 23 Accord EX-L and love it. It's been very reliable and a great gas saver at 45-50 mpg consistently. The new hybrid Civic is a great alternative if you are OK with a smaller car.
If you hold the regen braking down in Econ mode, it'll actually lock it in place. But also, when you place the vehicle in Sport mode, hold the brake, push the gas pedal all the way in, and the vehicle will actually launch for you, giving you 100% RPMs all the way up until you let off the gas. Then after that, if you do not hit the brakes, it'll stay engaged, and there's only one open CVT motor that's opened up full 100% throttle from zero to top out. It's a pretty amazing car. The Accord hybrid also!
I can definitely get 46.8 mpg in my 2024 sport, but if you drove my car the same way you drove this Hybrid, you'd be getting low 30s, and if I drove this Hybrid the way I drive my sport, I'd be getting low 60s.
He's in Michigan...where the speed limit is just a suggestion...but good point...it would be nice to see what this car can do when you go steady 65 or 70 for a whole tank.
I told myself I’d drive my 2017 EX-L into the ground, now I’m reconsidering trading in 😭
They need to fix the si. Lame that it has the same hp as this.
@@Localtraveler2376And less torque! At minimum they should’ve increased horsepower to somewhat match the Elantra N and still have higher power relative to the Civic range.
@@Localtraveler2376si is as fast as a 2025 base Camry now
@@zuhayrali4202 I wouldn’t go as high a the Elantra n because that be too close to the type r. I’d like to see 230-240
@@zuhayrali4202 why? its competing with the elantra n line which is also 200 hp and slower 0-60
Such a beautiful generation of the Civic. Quickly becoming one of my favorites. (I've long since gotten over the feeling of "the Civic is becoming the Accord!")
lol if you recorded this on a sunday, they let folks park in the right lanes for church all around downtown AA
rear seat vents are available overseas, idk why the american division didnt include it
Honda skimps out on a lot of features in the US that are available on their models overseas. The CR-V is a great example: here in the US, we only have the choice between the standard ICE, hybrid, and now the fuel cell EV (only available in California, so you could honestly just remove that one from the lineup and it wouldn't affect 95% of the country). If you go over to Europe, you can get a CR-V plug-in hybrid that has panoramic sunroof, rear storage compartment where the battery is, 360 cameras, ventilated seats, heads up display, and probably other features I'm forgetting. NONE of that is available on a CR-V here in North America. I just got a 2025 CR-V hybrid, but I would've loved to get a plug-in hybrid if that were an option.
Oh nice, ann arbor! Go Blue 💙
Also LOL about your fusion hybrid brake comment. Yup! Takes getting used to. I owned a 2013 ffh and now a 2019. They're great hybrids but man the brakes take a lot of skill lmao
I love the look of the interior and infotainment system. Very sleek
Excellent but you’re makin’ me dizzy rotating so much. But great contrast of green building in the distance with the urban grey.
17 inch RPF1's (15 pounds) would be perfect for this car, it would be a 15 pound reduction in unsprung weight which will help acceleration, braking, feel, and suspension efficiency.
13:06 it's HEAVILY iSoC (indicated state-of-charge) and power demand based. When the engine kicked in at 11 mph, you were at 30% iSoC and the power-meter was at %5 and going up. At 50% iSoC and above, the engine-on threshold is 12.5% power (on the gauge.) It linearly drops to 0 power below ~50% iSoC, reaching 0 at 20-25% iSoC.
14:10 shows this behavior. 40% iSoC, power-meter at about 10-11% before the ICE lights.
Thank you for demonstrating the Bose audio. I seen so many reviews and wanted to hear how good the sound system is
In Europe, we have the Honda Civic Advance trim. It has a panoramic roof, vents in the rear seats, and USB ports.
And electric seats with lumbar support.
The Japanese are known to be generous to the poor and unfortunate
@@オルフェーヴルの夫No, Honda just cheaps out on their cars here in North America in favor of Acura
glad they fixed the ground clearance issue on the 11th gen. my 10th gen scrapes the front bumper literally everywhere, including most parking spaces with the little concrete barriers. cant pull out of a lot of gas stations without going super slow.
28:43, that thing accelerated pretty well. I think I want one of those? Would definitely add a front pipe and a downpipe.
Beautiful caw. Almost as good looking as my '16 Touring.
One of the best car brands
Damn, all the cars are really just getting larger and larger. VW Polos are now the size of the OG Golf, and this thing is pretty massive compared to the old civics
The regen is also done by brake pedal. So either use paddles or use brakes, either will put energy back in
22:15 haha CEO of talking to yourself in public is hilarious. love your videos brother
21:18 It will actually unlock all the doors if you change that setting in the menu.
I'm shopping right now to replace my 2007 Honda civic si v-tech. Based on what I keep seeing, I'm grabbing the 6 speed manual si.
Some people say it's "inconvenient" to operate a manual tranny, but from what I see my opinion is that it's far less inconvenient than fiddling with countless unnecessary frills that only distract you from driving the car.
Which, of course, is the main reason you bought the product in the first place.
Point A to point B shouldn't require the same attention and tech know how as a personal jet.
Don’t forget to mention how this car kills your back. If you have back issues don’t get this car it’s a pain. I had many people drive my car long distances say the same thing as well as online you will see people saying the same thing.
100%, bought a 2022 touring sedan for my oldest a few years ago and I can barely drive it for more than 30minutes. Looking to buy this 2025 hybrid for my younger one though. They don't seem to mind.
Just get a lumbar suppport?
The cooled seats on the Elantra Limited are pretty appealing...
honda nailed it, it has some flaws like cost cutting but still the greatest car to buy today
This is incredible. I hope this makes acura make the integra better. Like maybe offering a 10-speed instead of a junk cvt. And making the type s even better. Or even imagine if they put a detunes civic Si engine in an integra and added the 10-speed. So it’s like a 10th gen accord in a smaller more agile package 🤯. There’s no reason they shouldn’t do that. But they won’t.
It isn't a cvt, it is just marketed as such since the operation sounds like one. That is the only similarity. The hybrids use, as stated in the video, a direct drive transmission coupled with an electric motor. Up to about 62mph, the electric motor moves the wheels while the gas engine turns a generator providing electricity for the electric motor. Over that speed, the gas engine gets coupled to the direct drive at a different ratio via clutch to drive the wheels alongside the electric motor. This system is super simple in its operation and should be one of the more reliable drivetrain options on the market alongside the Toyota hybrid options. As long as the electric motor and generator hold up that is.
@@taco111taco I understand. I still wish it had a regular automatic
@@taco111tacobrushless motors are indestructible. They will easily last the life of the car, there are 25-year-old Priuses out there with 300K miles that are still on their original transmissions.
The most logical thing to do with the Integra is to give it the same hybrid powertrain
10speed isn’t much better than a CVT
Urban grey looks so good in overcast weather. During the day it gets pretty light
the only thing holding me back is the repair costs for a hybrid. Try finding a mechanic who'll work on your hybrid car without charging you an arm an a leg but to be honest that's not honda's fault
9:55 If you hold the regen paddle down for threeish seconds then click it to set the level of regen you want it should keep it at that level during the drive. I have an accord hybrid and that’s how it works there. Not sure if it’s different for the civic.
Very nice demo. Thanks!
I have this exact car omg $28-$35 to fill it up depending where you live im in LA area so you know its expensive here but ever since i bought this car im like damn when am I gonna fill it up it the gas meter goes down so slow I remember filling it up and taking it to the beach which was around 13 miles from my house then not seeing the gas meter bar not even go down one bar is insane to me it didnt for like a couple days like damn 😭
50 mpg is Insane!
But weak for a hybrid though tbh. My Ioniq Hybrid gets into the mid 60s without much effort. Sure it doesn’t have 200 horsepower, but it’s not like I don’t have enough power.
@@General_M Agreed. My 2013 Prius can easily achieve 50mpg. Yeah, it doesn't have as much power as this Civic and it's definitely not as sporty but this type of mileage is nothing new for a hybrid.
Plus hatchbaxk design, great handling and 200hp🎉🎉🎉.
My 2016 Prius hits 50mpg all the time in the city, its not that impressive in 2024.
the new highlander hybrids get like 38mpg
Love the Larry David reference at 19:49.
I did my math and over the course of 125k miles the difference of the "savings" in gas of this car vs a civic sport is minimal considering you'll likely have to replace the hybrid battery, and maintenance on that battery as well.
I've noticed with my HRV that with the radar cruise control, the car would either slam on the gas at 100% to get back up to speed or break really hard when coming up behind someone. Not really an enjoyable experience.
Same in the 22 civic, it is quite agressive, supposedly fixed with more tuning in the 24-25 model years
@@TechMaster2133If it’s just programming, it would be nice if they could retroactively update previous model years that have the same Honda Sensing technology.
In my Subaru it allows you to adjust its aggressiveness with stopping and accelerating.. maybe Honda has something similar
Same with our Accord touring model. The software is poorly written.
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While it is a Civic. You can ask for a 360 cam and rear airvent. It's almost $32k for the top trim Sport Touring. Hyundai/Kia group has 360 cam on their Elantra and K4. Honda and other Japanese automakers needs to offer more value for their car in terms of tech.
We know that mechanical reliability is top notch with Honda and Toyota. They need to stop riding on their established reputation and innovate on the tech front.
I'm speaking from 20yr of owning Honda, Acura, Toyota, and Lexus.
If all other factors were equal between the Civic and Hyundai/Kia you might have a point, but they are not equal as vehicles. Since you’ve owned Hondas you understand the superior technology in the powertrains, packaging, reliability, etc. Hyundai/Kia don’t have those and rely on tech to create higher perceived value, since higher end vehicles do include such packages.
They chose to add tech and spend money there than to invest in other aspects of their vehicles and to differentiate themselves because they had to. But not everyone wants all that tech and it’s definitely not a necessity. A 360 cam in a Civic? Look out your windows, rely on yourself. My friend who has a Kia had nearly gotten into fender benders BECAUSE he was relying too much on this “assistance” tech. Honda doesn’t need to offer that specific option on a Civic. I’d much rather take superior engine and powertrain tech over needless assistants. People expect too much these days because we have too many options, and that’s not always a good thing.
And I think a lot of people aren’t factoring in the inflation we’ve had and that $32k today is not as much as we think it is. For the market, the Civic is still a great value.
@@The1SSGrant look at modern Honda and Toyota. They’re clearly more complex and don’t last as long. Tech adds value. If you don’t like extra features, then don’t get them. It should be an option. Why would anyone pay more for less features. We expect more because we want to keep our cars for long.
Yes yes all know Hyundai/Kia/Genesis lures customers in with lots of standard equipments for the lack of mechanical reliability (re-read OP). The point is Japanese automakers need to have better tech and software while keeping reliable mechanicals to outpace the Koreans, Euro, and American automakers.
got my 2020 honda accord and the only thing i can say abt it is that i was dissapointed that the speed guage was only in kph other than that it has been amazing. Sport mode goes crazy boost guage is satisfying and amazing top teir sound stystem.
You can change that in the settings you know. It's not a permanent thing. Take it to the dealer if you don't know how
21:28, you can change the settings to open all doors when you use keyless entry. The default option is only front doors.
It's an option in the car set up menu to have only the driver's door or all doors unlock when you touch the door handle.
Thanks for this!
You don't notice the car switching to the ICE because it doesn't ever take over propulsion until 40mph If I read correctly. At that point you are on a highway on-ramp and wouldn't pay attention to the change.
I keep updating caredge. Nothing in my city yet. I need this car right now!!!!!!!!!!
this looks like a great car
Great daily commuter
16:09 I went to UMich and I hated being in the right lane on Washtenaw Ave. It's always scary!
I drive a bus down that right hand lane of Washtenaw several days a week. I hate this town.
FYI: You can go into the settings and enable the proxy sensor to unlock the other doors
Look at that giant, spacious parking spot
Okay, now that you have driven both the Civic and the Elantra hybrids, which one do you prefer? Keeping pricing, features and everything into account. It's hard to beat the Civic but some features of the Elantra are really nice to have and honestly I'd like your opinion as a journalist
Please answer this question !
@TopherDrives please answer this question
Wow, has that skyline changed a lot in the past decade or so.
I noticed with my 2019 Ioniq also that if I kicked it into sport mode and used the paddle shifters the regen would replenish the battery super quick and then I would be back into ev mode within about 5mins of driving.
Is it just me or does this Bose system in Civic seem to sound better than in Porsche 911?
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Hyundai Elantra: Hold my beer
An AWD option in the future would be nice for people who lives in a snowy place.
Interior is almost same as in my new CRV hybrid in EU except gear shifter is fully electronic. Plus has heads up display and seat ventilation with panoramic roof. Oddly in North America version CRV has half analog cockpit display
I've heard that the new honda hybrids are driven by the electric motors only, and that there's only a final drive gear that connects the engine to the wheels. So there's basically no motor to engine transition
When I was looking between the accord hybrid or sonata hybrid, and how each works.
The accord hybrid would drive off the electric motor exclusively, using the motor as a generator until around 45mph. Then the motor had a "clutch" that would allow it to drive the wheels directly in conjunction with the electric motor over that 45mph for 'highway' speed driving.
From what you're saying, the civic here exclusively drives the electric motor and the motor only provides power, no connection to the drivetrain. So besides the motor noise, it's a "EV" experience?
end of 2024 and a car doesn't even have vents for the rear seats is WILD, and not even mention something like USB's for charging.
You should do more videos of your cobalt ss.
That road quality though....
Hell yeah, so some hard pulls
I wish we had some expectation of this as a Winter vehicle. Tires, handling, battery performance, and range at well below freezing in snow are things I'd love to know about. Surely the Euro Civic Hybrids have Winter experience now? Are they wildly different machines?
Why would you upgrade to an Accord? For a couple of extra dooddads it's a negligible option. It would be nice if you could spec it out with option groups vis a vis rear vents,hvac,ubc, etc. IMO, the Civic is better looking than the Accord. An integrated infotainment with higher resolution would be nice.It looks cheap and tacked on as is.
Question...would a manual shifter work in a hybrid?
Primarily I would assume it’s because the Accord is a more premium sedan. Although with how big the Civic is getting it almost seems negligible for a lot of families.
It's possible with some hybrids, but not with Honda's current i-MMD system, since the engine basically just drives a generator, or is direct drive at highway speeds
Do you really need to manually select a more intense option for regen braking* in ECO mode in order to use it?!
AFAIK... Hondas will engage regen braking automatically when you press your brake pedal, and unless you put a reasonable force in it (or the car is about to stop) the calipers won't engage!
10/10, Honda has blended brake pedal. Very smart
Actually I was wondering the exact same question. I'm pretty sure it's better for stopping at long-ranges, and sometimes when going down ramps or hills, because it's probably better than applying a strong brake force with strong BUT short regenerative braking, so they probably saw it was better to have a weaker, but LONGER regenerative braking. I don't think Honda has mentioned this but this is what I'm thinking.
@@fwkl Whether if it's an electrified or good old gas car, slowly accelerating or decelerating will always be more efficient in the whole of the mechanical components (brakes, suspension, chassis, brake pads, brake rotors, etc).
For electrified cars in what's related to regen braking there's a bit more to it. In an electric/hybrid car project there's a limit of power a motor/generator can output/generate (decelerating in this case would generate electricity when using the rotational movement/resistance of the generator axis to generate energy), how much energy the battery (and capacitors maybe?) can input, and how much heat the whole system can take and dissipate.
The faster the system regenerates energy the higher the heat output (in the motor, cables, battery), consequently reducing the amount of energy the system can take over a window of time.
Braking more gently, along a bigger distance will:
1) Generate less heat in the electric system
2) Dissipate the heat output over a wider time window, allowing the system to store energy more efficiently (less heat being generated means less wasted energy)
3) Allow the motor/generator to do most (if not all) of the braking with its energy generation capacity
If the braking needs exceeds the regen braking capacity or what the electrical system is engineered to take in (or some other corner case like the battery already being full?) then the mechanical braking system will be activated!
@@Danevils No. If you are talking about what he said in the garage, it only applies to pedal shifters. Your brake pedal will always regen on the first part. What sport does is it remembers what regen intensity you selected previously from pedal shifters and will apply that each time you let off gas. On other modes, if you want to slow with regen from pedal shifters, you will have to select intensity each time you want to slow down.
@@theblitz1687 Yes, you're correct. Still, it won't change much using sport or normal/eco mode for regen, since regen is always used first even when pressing the brakes.
The lack of memory for the gas-off regen intensity setting (using the paddle shifters) is totally Honda being dumb IMHO... A more aggressive setting allows the driver to single-pedal-drive more often, which is more efficient!
If you want bigger screens, then you should be careful what you wish for, because brands like Subaru and Lexus has granted that wish at the expense of physical buttons, which translates to worse ergonomics
Good looking car.
Wish it had memory seats. Wife and I have very different seat positions. Super annoying to find the position every time. Good car otherwise! Thanks
"its a cozy ride" Going down a war torn street that looks like its been bombed.
DC has some areas like this and ive been driving on BMW M (m3 -> x5m), and now M lite (m240) stiff suspensions. I know this isnt the segment to look but current roads make me just want a silent and perfectly smooth ride.
rims are tuff
Which is quieter on the highway? This car or the new Camry SE?
Camry, I have civic, these are loud cheap cars.
The Camry and the Civic aren't a direct competitors. Compared to a Corolla, the road noise is very similar. If we're talking about the Camry, the Accord would be a better comparison.
@@garrettsmith2657 I was looking at price, 2025 SE Camry about the same price as the civic sport touring hybrid.
@@superbros1690you have “A” civic, but you don’t have the 2025 hybrid touring, which adds sound deadening and active noise cancellation, making it more quiet than the regular civics. So without test in each car, we don’t know the answer. Could be the camry, but still…
@@SIIKAP1 2020 civic, even with 16inch tires car sounds worse than a jeep and I drive jeeps and have driven many other cars.
What do you know about the steering recall ?? It's been stopping me from the Honda. On the Honda recall web site it states the 2025 civic hybrid sedans need to have a steering part replaced.
I had a 2019 Accord Hybrid and loved it except for one element: the seats. I roadtrip often and after a couple hours, I was in pain from stiff uncomfortable seats. This is not the case in my BMW 4 Series. Thoughts on whether this Civic improves on Honda seats of yore?
@topherdrives The front end did not change at all until the 25 model year. That’s when we lost fog lamps
Which is better in terms of Highway Driving Comfort, NVH, and adaptive cruise performance? This, or a 25 Camry XLE?
200 HP WITH 50 MPG CANT BEAT IT
I don't think "It's 32 grand, it's a Civic" is a good enough excuse for the car to not have hood struts. When I bought my Civic hatchback in 2020, the top of the line Civic was around $28k before discounts. Now that we're well into the $30k price range for the Civic, it's time for them to stop skimping out on stuff like this, otherwise people will go elsewhere.
When buying a car, do you guys wait for the facelift refresh models? It seems like car companies always shorted the first half generation with accessories.
Honestly I'd try to find the previous version in a maxed out touring or something that's still cheaper than the new refresh......
They need to upgrade the civics interior where ambient light AC vents in the rear chargers
Obviously good but is it worth $33k and inching close to the hybrid accord
you can hold down the paddle to lock in the regen setting, unfortunately it will be reset when you shut off the car.
Man I sure hate driving in downtown Ann Arbor
If you were looking to get a second vehicle for doing road trips would you get something like the Civic/Camry/Sonata or something like a G70/CT5/S5/CLA? No daily commute, just something for the weekends.
what equipment is used to record your pov???
The hybrid electric drive system is active up to about 22 mph.
I heard 40? Could be wrong tho
My apologies, testing our 2 civics the hybrid system is somewhere about 35-40mph. depending on the demand. The electric system is close to 25.
I'm really curious if the drive modes really work as expected. In my 2016 civic ex, the econ mode actually decreased my fuel economy
15:43 We get to see an example of Honda's brake warning system come into play. You never see any video that showcases things like this.
Great car, though $35,000 for this car as shown is way too much for me lol
It's a cool car but the manual transmission is way way cooler and it's a shame they dropped it this year for the hybrid. I'm happy at least the Si and Type R still offer the manual. Save the manuals!
Amen
brother put your seatbelt on before you start it and it won't play the annoying safety chime on startup