Dearies, yes Stephen had phenomenal blessings of smarts, wit, and parents with money. And yet he also had (and may have again) horrendous trials. The bipolar disease alone could easily have gotten him imprisoned long term, rejected by Cambridge, and/or dead. I for one am very thankful that we have him around to envy.
I know this thread is cold, but I appreciate the mention of Feynman. I'd love to hear a conversation between Fry and Feynman. They both are capable of appreciating another's different kind of genius. (Or was, in Feynman's case; he's dead now.) I'm sure that their conversation would have been fruitful and helpful to us all. I really don't know of anyone else to compare with Feynman. Fry comes close. Fry is different but similar. We need more public figures who can explain the world well.
That's very, very true. I felt so much more at home in Britain in part because there was an aspect of always interpreting what's going on, instead of accepting what's going on as just being itself.
I do agree with your comment to some degree. It's hard to rise up and be somebody when all you see is dirt around you. You won't even have the idea where to start or what to become. Those who have aspirations are the lucky ones who live in a civilized country, where the fruits of hard work are apparent. But that's the thing. If we're lucky enough to live in such a country, if we're able to work hard and get rewarded.. There's really not much cause for complaint, isn't it?
I can't say that you're wrong. Stephen Fry's had quite a charmed life (great parents, sufficient intelligence to attend university, luck to meet Hugh Laurie and enough money to avoid worrying about bills). I WISH I were in his situation. To you and others, your opinion would be extremely valid. Anyway there's no point in us arguing over something this trivial, so I guess I'll acknowledge your way of thinking and leave it at that.
Bloody funny though this reminds me of some men I met in Glasgow a few years ago during Hogmanay. I came away absolutely enthused with a level of repartee that I now think is absolutely equal to this...
@tinkertracy Fry would probably know almost as much as Feynman in terms of Physics but more than Feynman in most other fields. I think Fry is the most cooly determined man in history in all possiblity. He doesn't come across as exasperated or witless at any given moment which is absurd for someone as driven as he. Whether Fry has used his brainpower for the best causes yet is still up for jury, but those such as Phil Jupitus who regard him as the Western World's greatest living man might be r
you should read the anothology on monty python there is a lot about the footlights great instutons, we wouldny have got fry, eric ideal, victoria wood etc
Man, wilsparky, you're exactly like my brother, so I think I know a pretentious pseudo-intellectual when I hear one. nattt23 won that argument, I mean, for whatever reason it was necessary for wilsparky to start. Ah well- no use trying to reason with someone who can't even absorb a little wisdom. That's their loss, so too bad for them.
I once read someone describing Stephen Fry as a stupid person's idea of what an intellectual is. For all his wit, he can say certain things that are based entirely on his own upper middle-class ignorance.
@TableWolfMusic Absolutely. Fry has become a tiresome little small 'c' conservative in his later years. He's done very little especially noteworthy public work, very little acting, a few films here and there, a string of good, but not fantastic novels. He lives from his public persona. He really is a toff, but pretends to otherwise when it suits the moment, as he turns on the posh, tweedy don when that suits the moment. He has acolytes instead of fans.
Dearies, yes Stephen had phenomenal blessings of smarts, wit, and parents with money. And yet he also had (and may have again) horrendous trials. The bipolar disease alone could easily have gotten him imprisoned long term, rejected by Cambridge, and/or dead. I for one am very thankful that we have him around to envy.
I know this thread is cold, but I appreciate the mention of Feynman.
I'd love to hear a conversation between Fry and Feynman. They both are capable of appreciating another's different kind of genius. (Or was, in Feynman's case; he's dead now.) I'm sure that their conversation would have been fruitful and helpful to us all.
I really don't know of anyone else to compare with Feynman. Fry comes close. Fry is different but similar.
We need more public figures who can explain the world well.
That's very, very true. I felt so much more at home in Britain in part because there was an aspect of always interpreting what's going on, instead of accepting what's going on as just being itself.
I do agree with your comment to some degree. It's hard to rise up and be somebody when all you see is dirt around you. You won't even have the idea where to start or what to become.
Those who have aspirations are the lucky ones who live in a civilized country, where the fruits of hard work are apparent. But that's the thing. If we're lucky enough to live in such a country, if we're able to work hard and get rewarded..
There's really not much cause for complaint, isn't it?
I can't say that you're wrong. Stephen Fry's had quite a charmed life (great parents, sufficient intelligence to attend university, luck to meet Hugh Laurie and enough money to avoid worrying about bills). I WISH I were in his situation.
To you and others, your opinion would be extremely valid. Anyway there's no point in us arguing over something this trivial, so I guess I'll acknowledge your way of thinking and leave it at that.
@tinkertracy ...right in that he has more to offer than most of his significant contemporaries.
Bloody funny though this reminds me of some men I met in Glasgow a few years ago during Hogmanay. I came away absolutely enthused with a level of repartee that I now think is absolutely equal to this...
@tinkertracy Fry would probably know almost as much as Feynman in terms of Physics but more than Feynman in most other fields. I think Fry is the most cooly determined man in history in all possiblity. He doesn't come across as exasperated or witless at any given moment which is absurd for someone as driven as he.
Whether Fry has used his brainpower for the best causes yet is still up for jury, but those such as Phil Jupitus who regard him as the Western World's greatest living man might be r
neither of them ever said that. He was commenting on her appearence on TV.
*gives you a kitten for having such good taste : )
cool
Fry and Laurie - two depressed geniuses. I wonder how many of the Cambridge Footlights alumni fit that description.
what does clive sy in 5:51 - 6:01 ? Does he say a hieratic society?
7:50 I'm not as good looking as hugh? Stephen! You are gorgeous!
you have beautiful hands and with a little of twicking your nose you are handsome.
you should read the anothology on monty python there is a lot about the footlights
great instutons, we wouldny have got fry, eric ideal, victoria wood etc
We like Brits because they produce better mysteries and intellect.
@halubalu Ha ha! No, he said 'hierarchic'.
well that's what it comes down to isn't it?
and he had the most enormous...
(enter servant)
(in confidential tones) ... uh, c-o-c-k
ROFL
6:18 True, English have no idea how to deal with someone being nice. We hate it! I can I can open a door myself THANKYOU!
I think they're pretending!
Man, wilsparky, you're exactly like my brother, so I think I know a pretentious pseudo-intellectual when I hear one. nattt23 won that argument, I mean, for whatever reason it was necessary for wilsparky to start. Ah well- no use trying to reason with someone who can't even absorb a little wisdom. That's their loss, so too bad for them.
I once read someone describing Stephen Fry as a stupid person's idea of what an intellectual is. For all his wit, he can say certain things that are based entirely on his own upper middle-class ignorance.
@TableWolfMusic Absolutely. Fry has become a tiresome little small 'c' conservative in his later years. He's done very little especially noteworthy public work, very little acting, a few films here and there, a string of good, but not fantastic novels. He lives from his public persona. He really is a toff, but pretends to otherwise when it suits the moment, as he turns on the posh, tweedy don when that suits the moment. He has acolytes instead of fans.