Great job Rob and well explained, Thank you. I think you'll find, at some point, that converting to a two-stage system will greatly enhance your dust collection. Something like a Dust Deputy or even a Super Dust Deputy.
"Enhance" is a tricky word when it comes to upgrading a dust collection system with a cyclone separator. On the one hand, the separator is going to knock down the overall airflow of the system. There is no getting around it. Some separators, like the Dust Deputy, do a better job at minimizing the degradation, but it will happen nonetheless. You can also minimize this by switching to a filter. On the other hand, a separator will save your impellor, since a planer and jointer are involved. So, at the very least, it's a double-edged sword. Enhancement? Only in some respects.
Get yourself an anemometer so that you can measure the airflow at each of your drops and compare it to the airflow at the motor. Then, when you make more modifications, you can measure the airflow again to see how much it changed, whether for better or worse. Real numbers are always better than "I would bet..." BTW, new subscriber. I want to see how things progress.
Hi Rob. Great job. do you find the use of 4" pvc pipe reduces you air flow. I have the same dust collector and used 4" and found I had poor suction at the table saw. Any suggestions?
I did find that as well . first thing i did was use tape to seal up my saw best I could didn't really help then I notice if I left a gate open to a tool on the other drop my air flow increased significantly so now i always have a second drop open no matter what tool i'm using . Hope that helps
@@RobsCustomWoodshop Nice job, Rob. I have a 1200 CFM Jet dust collector that uses a filter instead of a bag. I put a Super Dust Deputy Deluxe in just ahead of the dust collector. After filling the Dust Deputy bin twice I still have just a couple of tablespoons worth of sawdust in the DC's plastic bag and the filter stays clean. I did the same for my Shop Vac with the little Dust Deputy kit and the results are amazing compared to the way the Shop Vac filter was clogging before.
no doubt you did a good plumbing job but the proof is in the pudding. how is the suction ? I love when I see people show off there plumbing skills. but then they leave us with out showing us how well it works . So please tell me, how well does it suck Thanks
It has not been a year since installation but this What I have found with this 1200 cfm dust collector so far . That with just using 1 of the 2 runs at a time it is lacking air flow so much so that you could see the change in the filter bag ( i know bag not filter ) . When the second run was open at the same time I noticed the suction as well as the air flow really increased . So my table saw is open 100% of the time, now with the jointer, planer or band saw also open . That really helped with the amp draw on the dust collector . To be honest I would likely be inclined to go with a 750 cfm if I had to do it again since I can only use one tool at a time ,but this work well for me as is. Hope that helped
Thank you 👍 I worked on the shop layout to find what works best for me for about 6 months and once I figured that out I decided make the system permanent. It can still be changed if needed just a little more work LOL
Great job Rob and well explained, Thank you. I think you'll find, at some point, that converting to a two-stage system will greatly enhance your dust collection. Something like a Dust Deputy or even a Super Dust Deputy.
Thank you!! the 2 stage is definitely in the plans once the shop is built out
Definitely need to get rid of the cloth bag and get a real filter. Those cloth bags pump dust all over your shop.
"Enhance" is a tricky word when it comes to upgrading a dust collection system with a cyclone separator.
On the one hand, the separator is going to knock down the overall airflow of the system. There is no getting around it. Some separators, like the Dust Deputy, do a better job at minimizing the degradation, but it will happen nonetheless. You can also minimize this by switching to a filter.
On the other hand, a separator will save your impellor, since a planer and jointer are involved.
So, at the very least, it's a double-edged sword. Enhancement? Only in some respects.
Get yourself an anemometer so that you can measure the airflow at each of your drops and compare it to the airflow at the motor. Then, when you make more modifications, you can measure the airflow again to see how much it changed, whether for better or worse. Real numbers are always better than "I would bet..."
BTW, new subscriber. I want to see how things progress.
Thank you I hope to go to a two stage within the next year
What hp and how many cfm is your system?
Great job Rob. My "shop" is coated in sawdust so maybe I'm due. Subscribed!
Thank You
Do use a ladder to turn your blast gates on and off
No I do not my ceiling is only 8 foot and the blast gate handle is at 7'6" , I dont even have to stand on my tip toes
Hi Rob. Great job. do you find the use of 4" pvc pipe reduces you air flow. I have the same dust collector and used 4" and found I had poor suction at the table saw. Any suggestions?
I did find that as well . first thing i did was use tape to seal up my saw best I could didn't really help then I notice if I left a gate open to a tool on the other drop my air flow increased significantly so now i always have a second drop open no matter what tool i'm using . Hope that helps
@@RobsCustomWoodshop Nice job, Rob. I have a 1200 CFM Jet dust collector that uses a filter instead of a bag. I put a Super Dust Deputy Deluxe in just ahead of the dust collector. After filling the Dust Deputy bin twice I still have just a couple of tablespoons worth of sawdust in the DC's plastic bag and the filter stays clean. I did the same for my Shop Vac with the little Dust Deputy kit and the results are amazing compared to the way the Shop Vac filter was clogging before.
no doubt you did a good plumbing job but the proof is in the pudding. how is the suction ? I love when I see people show off there plumbing skills. but then they leave us with out showing us how well it works . So please tell me, how well does it suck Thanks
It has not been a year since installation but this What I have found with this 1200 cfm dust collector so far . That with just using 1 of the 2 runs at a time it is lacking air flow so much so that you could see the change in the filter bag ( i know bag not filter ) . When the second run was open at the same time I noticed the suction as well as the air flow really increased . So my table saw is open 100% of the time, now with the jointer, planer or band saw also open . That really helped with the amp draw on the dust collector . To be honest I would likely be inclined to go with a 750 cfm if I had to do it again since I can only use one tool at a time ,but this work well for me as is. Hope that helped
@@RobsCustomWoodshop thank you for the return reply I am in the middle of a similar system
@@RobsCustomWoodshop This is great info. I'm going to try leaving my table saw open all the time.
Good job bud 👍. Found you on 731 FB. Im doing my system soon. I was planning on just taping the connections. What made you want to glue them?
Thank you 👍
I worked on the shop layout to find what works best for me for about 6 months and once I figured that out I decided make the system permanent. It can still be changed if needed just a little more work LOL