KINSHI WAZA The Techniques Traditionally Prohibited in Kodokan Judo
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- This video analyzes the pros and cons of Kinshi Waza, the traditionally prohibited or banned of Kodokan Judo. Other grappling and combat sports/martial arts use these techniques so you decide for yourself if you want to practice or use them.
#kinshiwaza #kodokanjudo #welcomematstevescott
This video explains the techniques that Kodokan Judo has traditionally prohibited or banned in competition and (in some cases) training. The pros and cons of these techniques are presented. It's up to you to decide if you want to practice or use them. We have some more videos on our UA-cam channel on this subject. Comments are welcome but are moderated. Trolls and comments containing offensive language will not be shown and those who post these comments will be blocked from this channel. If you have something insulting to say or use offensive language, don't even bother writing a comment.
Awesome, all you show here and more are of course allowed in Ninjutsu. Thanks for the vid.
Very soon judo will be ilegal in judo competitions..
You are 100% correct Felipe-well said!
Felipe Felipe just like karate in karate competitons by w.k.f
Probably so, but these techniques could be used in self defense situations, if you are in a "situation."
@@shiv9505 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Illegal in competition ! It's so sad... And this why I see even more Judoka coming in BJJ and MMA...
I really liked this video, and I think steve scott is a real judo expert. The point is of any training system to protect the participants and have them constantly improve while minimizing injury. If you learn to play safe and self-restrained, you can always turn on the dirtyness later, but if you learn to play dirty, you will never learn the principle of self control. There are other illegal techniques in judo, and knowledge is power, but playing safe and effective is the essence of physical education.
Thank you for your kind words. You are 100% correct in your comments about learning safe, controlled and skillful techniques as opposed to dirty tactics and unsafe application of techniques. Please tell others about our channel and thank you for your post.
What a beautiful instructor; no ego on him, friendly, gentle....Finding a quality instructor can be hard. Bless him. Great video as well respect for uploading.
Thank you!
"Ok we are going to show this forbidden techinique is called a double leg takedown"
This video shows what the Kodokan traditionally considers "forbidden" techniques. Morote Gari and other throws may not be permitted by the IJF contest rules, but this video does not address this situation. Personally, I have no problem with any of the techniques shown in this video, but made it to clarify what the Kodokan considers as not allowed. I also do not agree with the IJF's position on their current contest rules.
@@welcomematstevescott Yes, thats a great approach to teach everything but clarify the do's and don'ts in tournaments.
i was just making fun of the rules in general. Nothing against you or the video.
:)
Leg grapping techniques where forbidden in tournaments because everyone started to do just that and only that - the fighting style went away too much from traditional Judo towards grappling and wrestling only. The ban of these techniques urges the fighters to show a wider variety of throws, which Judo is famous for. If I view a Judo tournament, I want to see some Judo - and not shoot wrestling without atemi.
The kinshi waza are techniques which are banned because of their very high risk of severe, probably career-ending injury (mostly to the knee).
@@stormeagle28
And so Judo is getting good to watch but bad as martial art.
I really appreciate the time you take to explain the body mechanics and details. Thank you.
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I'm blessed to train in a bujutsu self defense dojo. We use all of the judo, bjj and Japanese jujitsu techniques. I use ashi garami all the time to set up my leg locks. Never hurt a soul practicing leg locks. IBJJF tournament rules you get DQ for leg reaping though. So I can't use the honey hole or Russian leg knot. Which is a bummer but I just use the standard anklelock. Which is allowed as long as i don't lace the opposite leg or contort their knee. Only carelessness will equate to injury. Have fun rolling! 🤼♂️🥋
In BJJ is forbidden for white belts for the same reason, power ajustement. I can do the moves, but I don't have full control of my force and I don't want to enjury a training partner.
Anyone who hurts someone with a leglock or anklelock of some sort is honestly just a meat head and doesn't know the difference between fighting someone in your gym and someone in a tournament.
You'll also see these if you study at the Gracie Academy in California.
So many beautiful techniques hope they are preserved and passed on to the younger generations m.
They are preserved (otherwise I won't know them), sometimes for fun (Kani Basami), sometimes in self defense (Kawazu Gake entry)... or you simply don't need to know anything to execute a Do Jime. They're also preserved and teached (without Kawazu Gake maybe) on some non-Kodokan Judo systems.
Hello Steve this is Gene Boynton I remember working out with you in the early 70 s enjoy your videos retired now living in Thailand keep up the good work!
Good to hear from you Gene! Becky says hello. You were one heck of a good judoman back in the 1970s. Last time I saw you was back in the early 1980s when you came to Kansas City to visit and worked out with us. I think you were living in Texas or Louisiana then. I hope all is well with you. Stay in touch. My email is stevescottjudo@yahoo.com.
welcomematstevescott what belt rank you have?
6:00 This technique was used by Marco Ruas in one of his first fights in the UFC tournament. He finished the fight with a heel hook to devastating effect. I used it a few times in sparring until they banned leg locks in my BJJ school as we couldn't use the techniques in tournaments.
They are allowed only by brown and black belts.
Do jime is not really explained too much, so I'll try to add my 2 cents, to the degree I remember. Many years back in Bujinkan, I was taught this technique in a basic form which consist of grabbing a standing enemy's lapels, then jumping at him so as to grab his abdomen with both legs, performing the core do jime. THE CORE OF THE DO JIME TECHNIQUE CONSISTS OF STRAIGHTENING THE LEGS -- think squatting real hard, just with your ankles hooked against each other behind his torso, picture scissor-cutting him in half. Not hip adduction, but a squat. At the same time you should be trying to get in one of the basic front chokes on his neck. Now, the memory gets foggy for me, but we were also taught to let go with arms and abs, but with legs still hooked, bending down back with our upper body and take him down by attacking his legs, or then release legs and roll back to disengage. There are several ways this technique can hurt the enemy: 1. he may collapse when you jump at him, possibly smashing his pelvis (you sit above and drop onto it with yours), 2. you may keep all his wind out with your legs, 3. you may crush a few of his ribs with your thighs, 4. you may get a strangle on his neck, 5. get a takedown; if none of that worked, it may be better to take initiative and not get smashed into the ground by him, so get ready to lower, release and roll back, may work better with a kick to chin.
Always love your videos. Simple and easy to follow.
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Good comment!
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Dart Vader? Like he smokes lots of darts?
Really? Nice.
everything in judo is becoming illegal!
yes all throws lol
Illegal in competition... And this why I see even more Judoka coming in BJJ and MMA...
wormjames1 O-soto-gari is not prohibited and it wasn‘t at any Point of my carrier, which lasted 15yrs untill now.
@wormjames1 how is o soto gari illegal?
@wormjames1 O Soto Gari is not illegal in Judo.
muchas gracias por compartir, saludos desde puerto rico
Many thanks for posting this. Very interesting and well-explained and filmed.
Thanks. We plan on doing another on like this in the near future.
Such fantastic experience that you're sharing here.
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welcomematstevescott For sure!
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Good stuff! Thanks for posting!
Glad you liked it!
Good ethics, practice, form and applications I'm impressed don't see much of that in the schools anymore.
Thank you Tom. I agree.
crab scissors is also found in pencak silat
Good to know that. Thanks.
TheSilatiger dari daerah mana bang?
@@kwarijanuar6044 Semua turnamen silat selalu ada guntingan namanya.
sadly I can't use it as a single leg defence in folk style cause my opponent can't brace himself...
it is also found in several kung fu styles
Amazing instructor, of Judo technique's!!!
Thank you!
Those takedowns were pretty cool. I liked watching the leg locks, too.
I wish I took judo before everything... still haven't taken judo btw
Me too
Hi Steve AWESOME video as always with the leg entangling to park opponent's before the lift or throw does it need to be disentangled right before lift or throw so as not to damage opponents knees??? PS I love you channel you show awesome techniques I use lots of techniques that you and your students show I like the techniques the guy who looks like Johnny Knoxville lol no disrespect the guy is very talented you can tell he's done sambo or wrestling also...stay blessed Steve if I ever come to USA I will defo come to your class its awesome bro
welcomematstevescott ha ha yeah johnny Knoxville ha ha lol
If it is part of Judo,it's not illegal.
Great respect to this incredible martial art ❗
Thanks for the videos 👍🏿
It is our pleasure and your support is very much appreciated.
nice, i 've seen sum bad versions of this throw, good to see the best version of it!!!!
Thank you for your comment-glad you like it!
When I was a young Judoka i use to read sensei Scotts turtle press books and study every page. He was years ahead of the game in the United states.
Thank you! I appreciate your kind words.
Nothing is forbidden on the street . Good video and respect sent .
Thank you so much for this! One of my students asked me why I don't teach the leg scissors throw and I've been looking for a safe way to teach it. This was perfect! Easy to follow and understand.
I'm always looking for safe ways to train my students and I appreciate your attention to safe applications of dangerous techniques. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge! Ooss!
Thanks for your comment. I'm glad that this was helpful to you.
Now I wanna watch judo vs wrestling. Thanks.
Love that video
Excellent , experience teaching.
Thank you.
GOOD VID - Well explained and informative thanks but can we look at / reconsider ..... Kani basami (scissor throw) ... this was one of my favorite throws when competing as a kid years ago - before it was banned it was made illegal to put the leg behind the knees - my understanding was that by putting the leg behind the knees they fall forward onto their knees then the other leg at the front of the waist causes the rest of the upper body to fall back with ur leg then stuck behind their knees causing dislocation in both knees , i may be wrong here and going a little senile :) but im sure the safe version is with the baçk leg going lower behind the calves or ankles, scored plenty of clean 'wazaris' without hurting anyone :) - if ur gonne do this in practice do it slow at first both legs jump in at the same time but then stop there and look carefully at the mechanics of the two versions described .. be safe guys an gals
Thank you. Good points on Kani Basami. We have several videos on Kani Basami on our channel. Go to the playlist titles Sutemi Waza and you will find them. Thank you for your comments!
Learned Kodokan judo in mid eighties from guys who learned in the 50s 60s it was 50/50 standing and ground, kami basami, flying armbars were all still legal, used them all the time.
The modern contest rules stuff doesent interest me at all.
Excellent tutorial
Thank you.
Professor you guys are awesome!! Admire your teaching style!! Wish you guys were in LA!!
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Ashi garami is banned in Judo competition and randori, but is still included in one of the traditional routines (katas), and is illustrated in various old judo texts. The version shown there is different and maybe more dangerous than the version in the video. In the old texts the player performing the technique (Tori) keeps hold of one or both of Uke's sleeves, wraps one leg round Uke's leg, and pushes the other leg backwards, while pulling Uke's sleeve(s) *forwards* so that he cannot relieve the strain on his knee by falling backwards. It looks like a difficult technique to perform, but very painful and dangerous if it works. See this demonstration: ua-cam.com/video/3YXH_LrcqNc/v-deo.html
Good points. Thanks for posting.
Best uses for the bad ways of these techniques is for when real life self defense ha
Great video! I'm of the opinion that tani otoshi should be illegal unless your hips are behind your opponents. Sliding in from the front and attempting it, especially from distance, can be a legbreaker
Thank you!
I hold a black belt in Judo and I have experienced kawazu gakki and did not know whether it was legal or illegal I know that move put me out the club for at least one to two weeks as I was going for tire Torres on my way down my opponent rewrapped his leg around me using
kawazu gakki
wrecked my ankle against a kani basami back in 2005 or so. it's actually a pretty soft fall but the risk is quite real.
That Kani Basami is a bad one if poorly executed or done with malicious intent. I had a bad experience with Kani Basami in 1980. Kawazu Gake wrecked my right ACL in 1978.
nah, I knew the guy that injured me well, he didn't mean anything by it. Sometimes things just don't go right. The irony was that this was literally my last class in the club before I moved away lol. I did eventually fully heal, and a year later I couldn't even feel it.
Whew! On the last workout before moving. You're right, sometimes, stuff like that happens. Glad to hear you healed up.
yeah, so there's hope for everyone else out there with those ankle injuries, sometimes you get lucky and come back 100% with no surgery. I had a bunch of moderate injuries over those four years (this culminated in maybe 2005) but I'm fortunate to say that none of them haunt me. Some of my other injuries did, but none from judo or jiujitsu (so far).
And I still love kani basami by the way. Once you learn it, you see tons of opportunities for it. I think I'm a sutemi-aholic.
I never thought of it that way, but he was a meathead now that I think of it. One bad thing is that the guy who did this was an experienced black belt in Judo and knew exactly what he was doing when he did it. Also, it didn't take place in a big tournament with a lot on the line. It took place at a local Judo meet. I had thrown the guy earlier in the day for Ippon and he came up through to fight me again. I then threw him for a Waza-ari and I guess he figured if he couldn't beat me fairly, he would pull something to try to injure me, which he did. He hooked his foot and leg in with the Kawazu Gake and turned sharply which wrenched my right knee and tore the ACL. He did it deliberately and with malice. Back then, an injury like this really kept you off the mat as the surgery techniques and the physical therapy techniques were not nearly as good as they are today. It set me back a while and when I was ready to compete again, the guy who did this had left the sport and I never heard from him again. Actually, Kawazu Gake, if applied and used correctly is a good move. All techniques are risky to some degree or another, but the ones like Kawazu Gake that carry a higher degree of the risk of serious injury are rightly banned from Judo. It is odd, because we use Kawazu Gake a lot in Sambo and I have not seen an injury result from it so far.
Great lesson sensei
Thank you.
Time to pull out the popcorn, hot dog and Big Gulp, the movie is playing.
Quite a few years ago now, as you know sir, grabbing of the pant leg or anything south of the obi was banned in Judo competition. Not for safety, as your hooking demos here were, but because the BJJ players were winning intl. Judo matches with only one throw, (or take-down): morote gari. The thing that bugs me now is that Judoka around the world are modifying classic throws like kata garuma by changing where they grip and how they use kuzushi. I've seen some examples on youtube and instagram that are alarming. Uke's arms get tied up, or in some cases, they get thrown onto their head or neck in an all-or-nothing, uncontrolled manner. I would prefer they went back to allowing leg grabs, but ban techniques in which kime is not possible, as in some of the new side and dropping sacrifice variants of kata garuma I've seen. What are your thoughts on this? Thx. - John
Thanks again for the great video! 8:42 is there a way to escape/counter kani basami?
Kawzu gake and dojime demonstrated in this video aren’t actually illegal in judo. The takedown portion of the ashi garame is legal until pressure is applied to the knee on the ground. A lot competitors and teachers avoid getting even close to these but judo isn’t as limited as people seem desperate to believe.
the ground hurts when you land - a lesson I learned from my few judo lessons
You are correct-gravity works every time!
To serve as my personal references on prohibited technique in judo, as myself been stricken under the rules of Standard Judo, I serve this video clips as my personal awareness that to know this prohibited techniques to keep vigilant from the athletes who dares in prohibited applications, I personally thank you for the authors whom sharing this for my beloved vocation!!!👍😊
but one more time that I've asking a question regarding for the prohibited Ashi Garame I saw the danger of that technique but it is allowed to take down your opponent with using the Ashi Guruma mechanic without using the submission systems?
This question I am curious to apply without submission involved but only a take down basis?
Good question Mark. I have discussed this with different IJF Judo referees in the past and they have always told me that Ashi Garami, even as a takedown from the bottom position, is not allowed in their contest rules. Personally, I like the technique as we use it in Sambo a lot, but it is banned in Judo. Again, thank you for your interesting question.
This is actually a common sweep in bjj. I've never actually learned it while training in judo. It was only after I've started bjj that I see this very often.
I did a lot of Kani Basami in karate, but never hurt anyone. Maybe because karate has a more side-on stance?
Dojime is incredibly hard anyways oh my lord.
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These techniques (and many other "forbidden" ones) are taken in the Kodokan judo exam. Open the program and read. We worked it all out. For exam, not for competition.
Best regards St. Petersburg Judo Team (Russia)
Thank you and best regards.
I was reading some of the comments I don't think that a lot of students realize that a lot of these applications were meant to and can break bone dislocate joints and cause permanent soft tissue damage.research the founding history of some of these moves
You are correct Tom.
6:30 - x guard !
Yeah not de la riva was the x guard lol cheers mate
@David Fernandez it was single leg x
you absolutely don't have to post with the arm/hand for leg scissors...it's more fun that way.
Ty
The dangers of the scissors takedown reminds me of the tai otoshi. When done poorly and at the wrong angle, it can tear the knee too. Seen it happen before in my old club, and almost had it happen to me a couple of times. It was fortunate I stopped resisting and decided to fall just in time.
Good points.
11:50 Saw al aiquinta use this against Kevin lee when Kevin went for a single leg.
Pray an act of perfect contrition everyday
AWESOME bro....
Thank you.
@@welcomematstevescott
If they are too dangerous for competition they should put them in forms at least.
I’m a bit confused by the ashi garami demo. I saw an old video that supposedly demonstrated it and it looked like tori was spreading uke’s legs apart putting pressure on the knee.
The ashi garami here reminds me of an open guard in BJJ that leads to leg attacks.
There are different ways to do Ashi Garami.
I practice Kung Fu, Hung Gar style and the Kani Bazami is legal in my school. Sometimes we throw a circular kick to the chest, take his arm and complete the Kani Bazami.
Orlando Henriquez The Kammy-Wabammy is totally legal and legit
at my Combat-Tai-Chi school.
Do you actually spar full contact?
I like the bit , when he says....Derek was parking Eric.....
How would you escape the Kawazu Gake once it is applied but before falling? If you just fall with them, does it lower the risk of knee injury?
Generally, the best defense and escape that I have found is to lift the attacker as he tries Kawazu Gake.
Was taught kani basami correctly and used it effectively in competition until they banned it in competition for safety reasons. Bad use of any technique can make a throw dangerous ;so have we sanitised judo too much for the sake of safety when better instruction may reduced dangerously applied throws?
Well said.
single leg x is illegal in judo?
you can also do this when someone grabs your leg when you go in for a roundhouse to his thigh.
leg locks are the most dangerous then
Hi there, thanks for all your amazing content. Can you tell me the name of the throw at 3:45, it looks amazing?
Regards from Germany
Thank you for watching and I am pleased you like our channel! The throw is called Obi Tori Gaeshi in Judo and in past years before the Kodokan gave it a name, it was often called the "Kharbarelli Throw" named for the Soviet Judo/Sambo athlete who did it so well in international competition. Please tell others about our channel.
Thanks a lot! Will do
Great video. However the form of Kani basami that was demonstrated was incorrect. True Kani basami is a full commitment sacrifice throw that requires no hand be placed on the mat. Some call it a flying throw.
Thanks for your comment. I've seen the hand placed on the mat when doing this throw by a lot of different skilled people over the years. I've also seen the application as you described. Both have worked. If it works and works with a high rate of success for the person doing it, it's not incorrect.
In Brazil " Do Jime " is called " Chave de Rim " which means " Kidney Lock " ;)
Good to know-thanks!
Dojime open and closed guard explained by Yukio Tani 1906.
www.docdroid.net/PC2xkV8/the-game-of-jujitsu-yukio-tani-koizumi-1906.pdf
4:20 isn't legal if u grab the leg... Or the ijf changed again?and 6:45 remind me de la riva guard...
Juji gatame (armbar) is still allowed, not too much chance of being "kinshi" in judo even though if that person doesn't tap out if arm-bared, one's elbow could be totally crushed.
Judo used to be a combat sport. Now, it has become a sissy show sport intended to simply throw people during olympic matches.
If it's that easy I'll meet you in the qualification. :)
Knee injuries suck I been out for 2 months
I agree. Knee injuries really hobble somebody up. I've had several bad ones myself.
is this the stuff that Kano left out of his second edition? I read somewhere that he removed the last two chapters that were included in the first edition of his first book on Judo.
Actually, Prof. Kano never authored a book other than a small book titled "Judo (Jujutsu)" published by Maruzen Company Ltd. and issued by the Tokyo Tourist Board in 1937 ( year before his death). I have a copy of this rare book. The Kodokan staff came out with the initial Kodokan Illustrated in 1956. The book that is out on the market today and attributed to him actually is a revised edition of the original Kodokan Illustrated. These Kinshi Waza were derived from different sources in Kodokan Judo starting in the early 20th Century. If you can get a copy of the Kodokan Illustrated, it is worth having. There were several reprints of the original 1956 edition that came out in 1960, 1962, 1964 and 1970 I believe. All were the same as the original. Thanks for your comment.
3:58 This is not Kawazu Gake,looks like Obitori Gaeshi,a Te Waza throw.
I see your point. However, in that specific instance, I was pointing that out the use of leg entwining in the explanation of tori controlling, not Kawazu Gake as a throwing technique. The leg entwining was the focus of that explanation. Obi Tori Gaeshi, as you said, does indeed use that leg control initially. Thanks for your comment.
well... i started judo last year and i enjoy ground fight a lot. i taped out guys a few time with a chest compression using my knees by crossing my legs. today learned it was called do jime and was illegal. not totally sure though, in the video, they are pressing the ribs from the side, when i do it, i make sure to face on side of the guy so that one of my knee is on his chest and the other is on his back. it's roughly the same as when a big guy put all his weight on your chest to make you tap before the countdown for immobilization.
Any pressure from the legs in a "scissors" is considered Dojime. The angle it comes from doesn't matter. You're right, however, this has the same effect as applying your weight on an opponent's chest and torso to get him to tap out.
so, i was kinda being an asshole without knowing... well, nobody i rolled with told me it was forbidden.
i also use this kind of scissoring to finish sankaku jime. because i have long legs, my triangle is too easy to close and it locks without applying enough pressure to choke. so, when i get into a nice sankaku jime, i open my locking leg and slide the other foot up to my heel, then i straighten my legs as much as possible to reduce the space in between and get the choke. i wonder if this has a name or is just a sankaku jime variation, and i hope this is legal in judo.
Sounds like a variation of Sankaku Jime. Thanks for your comments.
thanks for your answer.
@@niscent_ sounds like the teepee choke
They do ashi garami in bjj like adcc,please explain the dangers of ashi garami,because they do it very often in no gi bjj .( asking because the guy in the video didnt explain the dangers of ashi garami)
Personally, I like lower body submissions and don't think what is known as Ashi Garami in judo and Japanese jujitsu is dangerous. We call it Leg Lacing and use it all the time in sambo. We made this video on Kodokan Judo's Kinshi Waza as a result to some of our viewers requesting us to do so. Lower body submissions have been banned in judo competition since about 1900, but we practice them on a regular basis as we do a lot of sambo and in our Shingitai jujitsu, we use them a lot as well. While the Kodokan may not permit Ashi Garami (Leg Lacing or Leg Entwining), it is a viable and effective technique-and as safe as any other skill.
welcomematstevescott okay thank you
i was taught these in the 80s well some of them, in a safe manner, now everything is banned lol
You're right!
heres a video of judo ground specialist in japan competing.
ua-cam.com/video/aVzCffoy5JA/v-deo.html
Footblock should be onhis side (bjj) not sure if that is applicable here
Do jime is easy to beat, just push your butt back to change the angle, and therefore the amount of contact area, that the force is being applied to, making it weaker.
Thank you for your comment Geoff.
I wonder if do jime could cause blockage of breathing or even cause a rib to crack or fracture, is that why this judo technique is "kinjite"? ("Kinjite" - is like "kinshi".)
It is one of the original Shime Waza, so you make an excellent point.
Wow!!!!
Long story short, I was that guy who took his knee out. You do NOT touch another man's Snicker's bar. End of story.
Isn’t that second one just a single leg X?
Honestly most of the submisions are a every day thing in my bjj gym. I have to mention im a white belt one stripe with only 4 months of training. And no ,we do not break eachother's leg every day.
I recommend that you watch our updated video on Kinshi Waza. We practice these techniques in my dojo all the time and the reason I produced this video was to show the techniques that are historically not permitted in Judo competition. Thank you for your comment.
@@welcomematstevescott oh i thaught you dont train them as we dont train heel hooks yet
Check out our playlists on our channel as there are a lot of videos you might find useful.
No more leg grabs!
2:17 I don't understand how that can risk knee... who's knee? When which one tries ouchi gari..?
It would mess up the ukes knee. Since the leg is wrapped around the knee like that, it's kinda pinning it in place using the entire bodyweight of the tori. If he gets thrown on his back, the entire body would rotate, but the knee would stay in place. Snap goes the ligaments in the knee and carnage ensues
Why is dojime illegal I've even noticed in kosen judo they do not use it I don't know I practiced BJJ for like 6 months dojime or the closed guard doesn't hurt shoot it's a form of taking a little break if your tired 😂😂🤣🤣 I guess if someone does put alot of pressure it can hurt a bit but it's grappling the same thing can be said if your on the bottom and the top guy or girl especially if she's a bit heavy if she or he puts alot of pressure from the top you can be in alot of pain so naaa dojime shouldn't be illegal
All these were allowed when I started judo. But how about one that wasn't allowed even all that long time ago - the hanging strangle?
Not sure about the nomenclature on the "handing strangle." Check out our channel for what we call the "trap choke" as it may be what you are describing.
Most of them(90%) were banned in 1925. How are you?! Haha..
今の柔道は規制が多すぎる。
Ye isn't ashi garami a common high level bjj technique
min 2:00
I believe that just wrapping your leg like that is illeagal in judo today. Am I wrong on this?
With the new IJF rules out, I am not sure. About a year ago, an IJF-A referee told me that just wrapping the leg is okay, as in a defensive move, but using it to try to throw the opponent is not. Again, that is just what he said. The bad thing is that there is so much ambiguity in the rules.
Its allowed in Collegent style Judo in Japan still.
23:00 minute mark closed gaurd
ua-cam.com/video/aVzCffoy5JA/v-deo.html
6:17 in the perfect position for THE LOW BLOW
Altho it's not used in these martial arts
Ouch!
Good video, but tell Mr. Heavy Breather he's not allowed to work the camera anymore!
someone could die in a street brawl if u can use judo on a concrete floor
Why is the second technique banned?
You're risking tear your opponent's knee if you do it.
9:50 in capoeira we call that a tesoura
ua-cam.com/video/DMT0NrFayYc/v-deo.html
Good to know. Thank you.
Good video! But with nostalgia I am realizing that judo Is losing ITS vigour, manhood AND braveness.
I am afraid we Will end up having a kind of "ballet Judo" instead of a real Martial art.
I did practice It during 4 years in the seventies, AND we had More injuries because of one o soto gari or juji jime than because of a Kata guruma or kani basami.
My point Is, Martial arts ARE dangerous if not done correctly , not mattering the técnic but the practitioner AND His sensei.
If Someone thinks they are too hazardous, have them practice gardenry, knitting or ballet but not judo.
Thanks for posting.
Thank you for your comment and well said!