Tzeentch 20 CRITICAL TIPS + 10 Perfect Turns [CONFED RUSH] | Kairos |Warhammer 3 Campaign Guide

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  • @ElvenPlotArmour
    @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому +8

    DLC ADVICE: Which DLC Do I need? Don't buy any DLC without seeing the below.
    "Do I need Shadows of Change?"
    Absolutely not! Yes, Tzeentch is notably stronger with this DLC and you gain the Blue Scribes and Tzangors but none of this is critical for a strong campaign. You get an Exalted Hero from confederating the minor faction and this Hero is a luxury, not necessity. The Mutalith is epic but not needed. If you are a Tzeentch lover like me and interested in the Changeling, then SoC is a good purchase. If you're stopping in just for Kairos then I'd advise holding off or doing some research into the other Lords in the DLC before purchasing as it's not needed to dominate this campaign, simply enrich it.
    "Do I need Champions of Chaos?"
    Conversely, I would argue the Champions of Chaos is the big game changer. It provides the Chaos Warrior units which provide unrivaled lineholding in the early/mid-game, and are still an affordable front later on. Chosen with Halberds on the flanks will butcher any flanking. Sorcerers are an amazing minor lord who's magic can save a capital rebellion.
    Choose wisely and feel free to ask in our Discord for any advice!

  • @Drachenfurie
    @Drachenfurie Місяць тому +13

    Thanks a lot for this guide! Playing Tzeentch is so different with the new cults. Also the cults open up a lot more potential for fun campaigns. In my last campaign, I send my inital cultist straight to southern Cathay where Gelt has his spawn location. That was way more fun than fighting Lizardmen for 50 turns.

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому +1

      The cults made this guide very fun to make. So many ways to approach it now!

  • @Coeurebene1
    @Coeurebene1 Місяць тому +7

    Thanks, the new cults seem super fun, I didn't realize they changed it so much. These small pacthes they do to update old factions are great. They keep the game fresh.

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому +2

      Amazing such an apparently minor change completely enhances the immersion. Cults should be a huge part of the daemon's reach and the rework really makes them feel as important as your holdings. Pretty cool that spreading corruption and the word of chaos is now a goal instead of a novelty.

  • @ts33878
    @ts33878 27 днів тому +1

    Worked perfectly. In my experience, Sarthorael normally dies on turn 3 or 4 so I'm never able to get him. Literally playing right now and I've just confederated him at the top of turn 4 - just like in your guide. Thank you so much! Kairos is already on of my favorite factions, and this guide just made it even better.

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  22 дні тому

      Stoked it worked for you! Like you, this has cemented him as one of my fav factions.

  • @nicky640
    @nicky640 Місяць тому +2

    Really lovely to have such a strategic guide for a faction with so many options.
    I have a started campaign still a week or two old where I kill Teclis in turn 2, his faction in turn 4 and confederate Sarthoreal in turn 4 too. It was hard, but possible.
    But I see you just kept Teclis alive. So entirely different in play style!

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому

      I actually made this guide because some viewers (correctly) pointed out the T4 confed stopped working due to AI changes. I went to make a new video and got carried away lol

  • @Black_Coding
    @Black_Coding Місяць тому +1

    Great guide, lots of useful information! It's also good to remember that if Kairos loses, it's all part of a plan.

  • @Karlmeppo
    @Karlmeppo 25 днів тому +1

    Wow. Thank you.
    Cant imagine how much work you put in this guide.

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  25 днів тому

      This one was definitely above average. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

  • @일이삼-c7i
    @일이삼-c7i Місяць тому +1

    Thx, it was difficult at first but I tried a few more times so I could play it similar to this guide! After finishing our Chameleon friend, the next was really easy and fun

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  27 днів тому

      One of the hardest initial challenges in the game. The sentiment that "it aint so bad" I think comes from people playing before the AI update.

  • @shadden_x
    @shadden_x Місяць тому +2

    cant express how much ive enjoyed your content over the years, and how better it got :) speedy recovery!

  • @Tiamaru0o
    @Tiamaru0o Місяць тому +1

    hei elven im really gratefull for your content and the amount of love you put in there its beautiful. thank you alot and please more of the 10 perfect turns!!!

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  27 днів тому +1

      The encouragement really helps so thanks for taking the time to comment!

    • @Tiamaru0o
      @Tiamaru0o 27 днів тому

      @@ElvenPlotArmour always for good and with love made content!
      If i might ask you a question how do i plan my campaing i partially get lost in them when i come to turn 20 or 30 and then i restart any tipps?

  • @LightningBoltah
    @LightningBoltah Місяць тому +5

    *immediately loads up tzeentch campaign*

  • @aidanterrebonne822
    @aidanterrebonne822 Місяць тому +2

    some of your 20 tips were cut out, and I'm rewatching bits now, but if you put in all you meant to for acquiring the changeling confed I'd appreciate some sort of timestamp. otherwise unfortunately I believe this may have been cut out as well. Very glad for this video, I appreciate it and the tzeentch vids in the past!

    • @jjakariasman2545
      @jjakariasman2545 28 днів тому

      Which confed? (he fixed)

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  27 днів тому +1

      To explain this: there is no 100% guaranteed way to 'discover' the changeling. This is the hard part - revealing terrain to find the Empire faction who wiped him is the hard part. After this just join the war against him, peace out for alliance, generous gift and wait for your +Tzeentch Relations followers to get you to a confed.

    • @strangestecho5088
      @strangestecho5088 19 днів тому

      ​@@ElvenPlotArmour That's a geat idea. I had assumed that finding a cult through settlement trading would work, but nope. The minor ogre faction was still alive and at war with them, though.

  • @jamesrissler
    @jamesrissler Місяць тому +5

    Worked great - added a few little twists of my own, and still worked fantastic. New cults change this faction so much for the better!
    I went down the magic line pretty hard early, I was able to easily repeat with the need for fewer troops because of that. With fewer troops upkeep wasn't an issue. In fact, after running back to finish the last Slaanash settlement then jumping right into nearby high elves, I had plenty of gold to upgrade main settlement to tier 4 and begin getting the higher tier troops right after.
    Having gone down the magic line, rest of campaign / lizards is much easier now and should be able to steamroll rest of campaign w/o much difficulty. Seiges are a breeze now with all the magic line complete.
    Overall awesome, makes it way easier and really appreciate the time you put into this :)

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому +1

      So glad it worked out. I typically expect people to deviate and add their own spice to it. My first run I went down the magic line too (it's a great idea). I found the Fire spells were enough to win all the early to mid battles and more wanted to ensure viewers would be able to afford the Magnus Expansions and Chaging abilities, hence the campaign line. Additionally, I did find the reduced upkeep helped in affording the upgrades needed to rush the Legendary Heroes.
      All the modifications you make are very sound and I think will fit a lot of player's preferences too, particularly if you want to take it to Teclis sooner which will provide the loot and XP to make up for the above expenses. Great advice - Thanks for sharing!

    • @jamesrissler
      @jamesrissler Місяць тому

      @@ElvenPlotArmour makes perfect sense, thanks again for what you do - really appreciate it!

  • @benyblancofrbx
    @benyblancofrbx Місяць тому +2

    How did we even forget to hit the 🔔 Bell! .....
    Mission accomplished!

  • @AiisakaTaiiga
    @AiisakaTaiiga Місяць тому +1

    not a big fan of monogod factions but your cathay guide helped me lots so keep them coming

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому

      Appreciate you tuning in for the support. Thanks mate, you'll like the upcoming content :)

  • @SGProductions87
    @SGProductions87 Місяць тому +2

    To keep Teclis off your back, use Force War to make him war Kroqar and Zlatlan. Use the -80% Changing cult building.

  • @nootnoot784
    @nootnoot784 Місяць тому +2

    The best youtuber is back

  • @SantiAsen
    @SantiAsen Місяць тому +1

    Awesome video, im launching a new campaign with kairos thx 2 you 🦅

  • @slaviksaylor7526
    @slaviksaylor7526 Місяць тому +2

    Hello there! Fantastic guide! Thanks a lot! Do you recommend switching sorcerer lord to demon prince? Are you considering making an army guide for Tzeentch?

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  21 день тому +2

      Sorry for the late reply. I'm definitely thinking about a Tzeentch Mastery. Thanks for inspiring it!

    • @slaviksaylor7526
      @slaviksaylor7526 21 день тому

      @@ElvenPlotArmour do not apologize! Everything is ok! 🥰

    • @slaviksaylor7526
      @slaviksaylor7526 21 день тому

      Looking forward for a new guide!

    • @jadene9022
      @jadene9022 12 днів тому

      @@ElvenPlotArmourHuge +1 for tzeentch mastery

  • @LandofMert76
    @LandofMert76 Місяць тому +1

    Right up there as most fun

  • @michaelthomas3209
    @michaelthomas3209 15 днів тому +1

    Thanks mate 🙏

  • @artje90
    @artje90 19 днів тому +1

    hmm didnt ever use teleport stance as an ambush cause i didn't even know that was a thing, mainly used it as a underground stance of the dwarves/woodelves or beastmen. it's not often when i learn something new

  • @dwimus7071
    @dwimus7071 Місяць тому +1

    Greate video!

  • @lukegarnham1476
    @lukegarnham1476 Місяць тому +1

    Been playing this faction haven't been as efficient as you though wish I watched this before I got 90 turns in :)

  • @FedorT54
    @FedorT54 Місяць тому +1

    Great guide

  • @michaelthomas3209
    @michaelthomas3209 15 днів тому +1

    Thanks

  • @christopherhayes1369
    @christopherhayes1369 Місяць тому +1

    Kairos is a tough one and I've been playing this a few times lately. Difficult because you want to rush oxyotl but can't ignore slaanesh plus it takes so long to get from one side of continent to the other

  • @rat2132
    @rat2132 Місяць тому +3

    Dope ass video do you think you could god tier grimgor next?

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому +1

      Straight up honest answer: once the greenskin DLC comes out I'll cover him. My style of video is among the most time consuming so I time them after content releases so they don't date quickly. Another reason I don't base my strats around exploits or things I assume will be patched.
      But yes - Da video will come

    • @rat2132
      @rat2132 Місяць тому

      @@ElvenPlotArmour dope as hell

    • @rat2132
      @rat2132 Місяць тому

      @@ElvenPlotArmour whos next on the list 👀

  • @trevorbanks4136
    @trevorbanks4136 Місяць тому +1

    Hey great video man have a questions on a siege strategy for tzeentche? Also good cost effective army comps ?

    • @trevorbanks4136
      @trevorbanks4136 Місяць тому

      I’m not good at micro and I know this faction is a spell maining faction so I try to avoid too many spells

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому

      * Use your lord of change to dive onto the walls and jump out of combat while the shield recovers (as seen in the video) you can slowly but surely win an entire siege with this
      * Break through the gate and use pink fire and searing doom on the crowded entrance.
      * take the walls and fire in with your horrors.
      Easy formations: 6 Pink Horrors and 6 Chaos Warriors (Shields) is a key core I commonly use. In the mid game use Exalted horrors. Later on get 1 choosen with Halberd on each flank.
      On the flanks have a unit on each side. Start off with screamers if nothing else, but get Cockatrice if possible (they route instead of banish). Later on replace these with Lords of Change.
      Exalted Flaner, you only need 1. Keep in the back line and move forward to snipe heroes.
      Have 1-2 normal flamers in between warriors in the front line (as seen in the video).
      Happy hunting, general.

  • @일이삼-c7i
    @일이삼-c7i Місяць тому

    OMG really thx, But I don't know I can follow this guide in game...

  • @SGProductions87
    @SGProductions87 Місяць тому +1

    One way to deal with Slaanesh to the east is to sell them the adjacent settlement in your starting province for diplomatic deals like an alliance, then use Changing of the Ways to transfer it back to you.

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому

      I did consider and try this one, but the economy from taking the territory really helps and as an ally he really is a potato. I actually really wanted the alliance to be the key method but after testing it clearly wasn't.

  • @MrBlitz35th
    @MrBlitz35th Місяць тому +1

    How do you confederate with the Changling before be killed off?

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому +1

      The changeling will ALWAYS get "killed off" by Turn 20. Still he will remain at war with whoever defeated him, even with all cults destroyed, with no balance of power. This is why the strategy is use the Reveal Shroud ability to discover the Empire factions and find the cultprit and introduce yourself by declaring war against him, Peace out + Alliance, Generous Gift or 2 to speed things up with your Tzeentch Relation followers equipped. See the Critical Tips to see this in action.

  • @jjakariasman2545
    @jjakariasman2545 28 днів тому +1

    How do you discover Sarthoreal?

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  27 днів тому

      You should be in contact with him by the start of the second turn by default - particularly if you've force marched during Turn 1 as shown.

    • @jjakariasman2545
      @jjakariasman2545 24 дні тому

      @@ElvenPlotArmour Thanks

  • @sbannan21
    @sbannan21 28 днів тому +1

    comment for the algorithm gods

  • @erock255555
    @erock255555 3 дні тому

    Where is the part where you explain how to confed Changeling?

  • @kevin4b03044
    @kevin4b03044 Місяць тому +1

    Glad you are feeling better.
    Tbh i dont play TW anymore but i love watching these videos!

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому

      Really appreciate it mate. Cheers for the viewership!

  • @strangestecho5088
    @strangestecho5088 21 день тому +1

    Given that there wasn't enough time to rush the recommended cult building on turn 4 (Dark God's Choice), I'd suggest going with the cult building that gives 50% hero success chance within the province instead (Complex Stratagems).
    In addition, I massively disagree with the choice to get the Scrolls of Destiny on Kairos over global public order. Three Grims per turn is extremely low impact by comparison.

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  21 день тому

      Some good points, always good to see alternate strategies. It is worth noting this was the only run where I didn't get to complete the cult, and I could have completed it but I chose the soul grinder for the lolz. 3 Grims per turn does sound very low, but I did 4 solid tests on this campaign and the risk of running out just leaves changing abilities on the table. I'm not disagreeing that the PO boost could be better, but when doing these walkthroughs there's nothing worse than risking someone running out of a key resource and losing the momentum of the run so I go for the guaranteed path. This is really flexible faction and I literally kept rewriting this run from new ideas coming up. There's surely many more so thanks for sharing yours!

  • @fazegreg6034
    @fazegreg6034 27 днів тому

    what do i do when he wont confederate on turn 4?

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  20 днів тому

      Confederate Turn 5? It's important you avoid loses in your battles as lower army numbers will weaken your perceived might, thus lowering their willingness to join you.

  • @slowbro-
    @slowbro- Місяць тому +1

    So this means i must buy shadows of change

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому

      Absolutely not! Yes, Tzeentch is notably stronger with this DLC and you gain the Blue Scribes and Tzangors but none of this is critical for a strong campaign. Conversely, I would argue the Champions of Chaos is the big game changer. It provides the Chaos Warrior units which provide unrivaled lineholding in the early/mid-game, and are still an affordbable front later on. You get an Exalted Hero (Shadows of Change) from confederating the minor faction and this Hero is a luxury, not necessity. The Mutalith is epic but not needed.

  • @omend41
    @omend41 28 днів тому +1

    so its not for legendary difficulty?

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  27 днів тому

      Everything uploaded is intended to be applicable to all players on all difficulties, but is done on legendary as this will work on any difficulty.

    • @omend41
      @omend41 27 днів тому

      @@ElvenPlotArmour well on legendary u cant confederTe doing ur guide . u hover over confed button and its -42 also when ypu attack there is no save game. so its not legendary. also u play normal difficulty battles

  • @l.m.srensen4559
    @l.m.srensen4559 20 днів тому +1

    Followed this guide to the letter, pausing between sentences to not miss a thing, and still, -42 to Sarth when trying to confederate him at turn 4, -41 at turn 5.. but turn 5 is not a turn 4 confederation anyways.
    Is it only a legendary/VH guide, not useable for VH/VH?

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  20 днів тому

      They've been tweaking the diplomacy over the past few patches and that might be the issue. I managed to get it consistently in the prior patch when this was filmed. Are your forces at full health for the start of T4 to max your BoP? I was aiming for the T4 as it safely stops Teclis from chasing Sarth down in the south!

    • @l.m.srensen4559
      @l.m.srensen4559 20 днів тому

      @@ElvenPlotArmour My forces are at minus 1 furie. So as close to full strength as does not matter.
      I even try recruiting the RoR and an extra lord to inflate my strength, but alas.
      Oh and have you thought to “hide money in the GR-bank” between turns, to reduce/prevent threatening?
      I’ve often been spending all my gold on global recruits, that won’t finish in a turn, so there’s less to threaten for, or no incentive to do it at all..
      just cancel between turns..
      been a good way to look poor, for a few years now. (I think I saw LoTW do it back in WH2, and took on the idea myself)

  • @kevinharvey9500
    @kevinharvey9500 Місяць тому

    I can paint the map with kairos.....matter of fact he actually is one of the eaiser chaos gods to play and spread your paint lol. The other ones have drawbacks. Slanesh has weak early game armies. Khorne has diffuclty solidifying territory. Nurgle has weird recruitment that can hinder you early game. Kairos or tzeetch has none of those hindrances

  • @Noctani
    @Noctani Місяць тому +1

    Great guide for new players. Tzeentch doesn't have to go tall. They can go wide just fine. There are ppl on the h2h server that take Antartica and kill tic tac to by T12. A little humility of taking off perfect and changing it strong or good might be less misleading. You can ConFed the Chronos faction between T6 - 8. You want to switch provinces settlements with the other Tzeetch faction to get vision of the Khorne faction T2. Then you vassalize Khorne and Oxy never kills him and just sits and waits for you to kill him. I'd say...more...but if you were really interested you'd be in all the different servers out there getting the info on your own.

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому +3

      Context I think is key here. The changes to legendary do limit insane expansion quickly. As far as H2H goes I think it's an entirely different game because the difficulty is typically Easy Battle and you can map paint very easily before 5.2. Still can, but the extra stacks (and their aggression) do change the way you need to approach it. Still, some intriguing strategy there, vasalising Khorne, I agree is excellent. Some great ideas to try. Which servers in particular are you referring to?

    • @heqraouzi6739
      @heqraouzi6739 Місяць тому +1

      @@ElvenPlotArmourdamn that guy was condescending. elegant response tho

    • @svetttanke5166
      @svetttanke5166 Місяць тому

      @@ElvenPlotArmour Great reply. I would never be able to keep my calm when answering someone that high on themselves and so condescending

    • @Noctani
      @Noctani 29 днів тому

      @@svetttanke5166 Maybe it's because it's a community of hundreds WH3 players who have lifted up the multiplayer community and has little to do with self and more to do with what the certain communities have proven.

    • @Noctani
      @Noctani 29 днів тому

      ​@@ElvenPlotArmour Don't know why it deleted my reply to you. Other than warpstone which I would say is a new multiplayer community. Most competitive communities play on H/N to VH/VH, not easy. I will reply in a second message with the discord links in case that's why my 2nd post got deleted.

  • @SGProductions87
    @SGProductions87 Місяць тому +1

    Quite a few of your edits cut your speech off prematurely.

    • @ElvenPlotArmour
      @ElvenPlotArmour  Місяць тому

      Cheers for the feedback, I'll watch out for it.

  • @DemonLoser
    @DemonLoser Місяць тому +1

    Comment for the algorithm