The John Coltrane Pentatonic - guitar version
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- Опубліковано 22 кві 2020
- The unusual musical shapes the notes of the Coltrane Pentatonic produce provide a wealth of challenging material for the player looking for new sophisticated sounds and unexpected melodic challenges.
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I have never heard music with such amazing colour as what I just heard. I can't describe the beauty of harmonies, it almost made my hair stand on end. I going to listen to a whole bunch of JC tonight. Thanks so much for opening my eyes to this.
This same scale is a popular raaga in Indian Classical. It has a proper name and there are many songs composed in this scale. Its called 'Shivranjini raag'
It's also used in Japanese music and apparently called the Akebono I or Kumoi.
@@JoshNpublicgplus Interesting reply, I noticed that the Akebono scale has a b7 as oppose to the major 6th shown in the video, they're enharmonic but it kinda has a different feeling to it, the kumoi on the other hand is pretty much exact (1 2 b3 5 6)
Nate Springer Hello Nate, a b7 and a maj6 aren’t enharmonic, they’re a semitone apart.
*ShivrajAni
@@markymarco2570 No., it's called Shivranjani. It's been used for ages in Indian music, incl Bollywood music. Here's an example: ua-cam.com/video/Q9ULWBTokzw/v-deo.html
I really love you for sharing all this huge staff for guitar and not only . God bless you
lovely sounds, thanks for your time, nick!!!
It just dawned at me the greatness of Coltrane ! Amazing sustitutions ! Thank you a million, Jazzduets !
So glad I stumbled on this. Simply incredible! My theory is not at this level as I can’t understand the dynamics of this. But thank you. I can at least play it.
Thank you, Jazz Duets!
Always great content.
2:46 YEAH!
Very good work. Examples of great clarity. Thank
I've been working this into my guitar playing, but I'm very limited with it. This video will be perfect!!!! Thanks!!!! So magical sounding!
Absolutly love it!
Thank you lots for these priceless pieces of info. They’re not just meant to teach but to inspire as well. At least that’s what they are to me 😊
I think this scale originated from the in-sen "scale" (it's a tuning of the koto) which originated in Japanese music. McCoy Tyner and Kenny Barron are also users of this scale.
I always messed around with Japanese scale because they seem so mysterious and yet so lamenting and you are absolutely right. The in-sen works as a minor 6 9 and if you base it on the 9th its a sus4 7 b9 chord. There is also the iwato scale and another one that's pretty similar but I can't remember the name
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It's true. For some reason there is a lot of Japanese pentatonic scales ? Maybe it's like musical equivalent of haiku ?
@Ryan Lockett Ryan of course the white guy American is going to make an ambiguously racist comment ?🤪👍
Beautiful! Great lesson this guitarist thanks you!👏👏👏👏
new sub. Thanks for sharing this. 🙏👍🏼
I am a self taught musician, and this stuff is so great. I love being able to learn things *as I need them*, and at my own pace and way. Videos like this are priceless to me. 🐰🎸🎶❤️✌️
"John Coltrane knows best" 💯🎵
Gracias por estas versiones enfocadas a la guitarra son geniales keep doing them plz
Awesome sound!!
This was magical, I learned a lot.
sounds beautiful
So glad I found your channel.
Thanks for this video, the chords A-7b9+5 - D-6 reminds me the song for Shinra Building in Final Fantasy VII
Amazing video lesson! Thanks a lot!
Thank you, thank you!
Awesome stuff
Brilliant video! Thanks for the inspiration. Thanks to Corona, I have no gig tonight and will grab my guitar right now to get off into the beautiful sound of this scale thanks to your lesson.
I love this.
it’s hypnotizing! very slick!
excellent thank you!
It's like it touches on the root of any chord. If it's not in the root it works as a passing note.
Music diamonds! Wow! Thank you!!!
What a beautyfull music !
I learned it as the in-sen scale, Either way phenomenal transcription and etudes. What a great way to practice and digest it to get that sound in your pocket
Wow...thanks for uploading such contents..
I worship this video.
In a book that came back in print ( after Kurt Rosenwinkel cited working from it in an interview ) by Adelhard Roidinger called “ Jazz Improvisation & the Pentatonic” ( Advance Music ), this scale would be called
“ Pentatonic b3 , mode 1 ( 1, 2, b3, 5, 6). There are six others that are not derived from the main one we know and think of when we hear the words “ the pentatonic scale “ and yet another 8 altered ones as well that are included.
Thank you for this video . I was just working from this book and making little diagrams for guitar regarding this material. I have thoroughly enjoyed the regular content and am excited this guitar one has entered my feed ! Thank you
Such a simple yet valuable idea. Great guitarist. Great horn .the narrator I'm not used to though I'm learning to like..,...........
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gracias por la data,sos un fenómeno!
One thing that's for sure, is that it's your video! I wouldn't steal it!
Thank you very much!!!!
Awesome nick ...
Thank you to think of guitar player!!
I love easy usefull stuff like this
Way cool!!! Thanks
great sounding axe!
Omg, it sounds so Musical! Tks guys! I ll try to use these (intervals - some in d beginning sounded intervals ) , d guitar sound is great too
Watch a couple videos of barry harris' 6th diminished scale and this will start to connect some dots. These scale tones come from the minor 6th diminished scale
Your videos are great
Thanks amazing
This is very cool... thanks
Thank' s so Much John. .. ☺😊😀/👍👌👏
Genial. Gracias
Works really well on inner urge for the fmaj7#11 you can use the d Coltrane scale ie the relative minor hadn’t thought of using it on so what thanks for the tip
That 2nd adds some magic to the min6th chord indeed
Wow! Nice!
Que massa esse vídeo, aplicações da pentatonica sobre acordes ... mais por favor!
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I'm solo going to buy this!!
Nice! Am7b5 = Cm6 = Coltrane Pentatonics. Great for a simple rock dude like me. Love it, thanks for the clip!
Awesomeness.
thanks !
It might also be seen as the 1 2 3 5 6 degrees of a dorian scale right? Omitting the 4 and 7.
yeah, but probably easier to think of it as 1 2 3 5 6 degrees of a melodic minor scale. This is just so that the superimpositions of the scale over different chords make more sense. For example, you can use the A coltrane pentatonic over a G# Altered chord the same way you would use A melodic minor over a G# Altered chord.
Yes it is that, I think of it as a major pentatonic with a b3.
It's a major pentatonic with a b3
Joseph Whettam but isn’t major with a flat 3rd just the formulation for melodic minor? Both methods of thinking of this scale are valid, but as most jazz players already have their melodic minor scale down, I think it would be much easier to conceptualize it as being the pentatonic version of the melodic minor scale, rather than thinking of it as this entirely new pentatonic.
IT'S A B3-
Good stuff
Thanks Nick for this fantastic share that improved a lot my guitare playing;) Just bought the digital courses related to this Trane pintatonics witch are awesome !
May i suggest to include the PDF line in the guitar video to improve reading and playing at the same time? ( i know it is a lot of work but will definitely improve your courses)
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Cool.
Nice video.
3:15 sick playin
Estupendo!!!!
To conclude today's presentation we will try superimposing the Coltrane Pentatonic over the stunning solo chords of Deep Purple's Smoke on the Water... Kidding. Excellent video!
Wanna buy this but link not working...So glad I found you guys. GREAT work!
Saludos mr. Nick!.
3:43 first time I see him smiling on a picture
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Thanks for the video! I think this is Kumoi scale!
Increible, alto video, de la putisima madre. Lo repito: los mejores videos tutoriales de UA-cam. Y mira que hay millones.
que onda che! abrazo
@@JazzDuets Nice video very good,
For my way of thinking it's better to see the C- Coltrane Pent as a Amin7b5-Arp + the 4th degree... great stuff as always Nick...many thanx for sharing your passion and huge knowledge..keep well and fit
Basically everywhere you could use melodic minor you can use this instead
Dorian Mode, too.
Good tip. Thanks
Just read your comment after wrote mine
Wow
No, the Maj 7th wouldn't work over some of those chords.
Thanks Nick, I bought the digital package and am looking forward to working on these over the next month or so. Also, in the medium term, I would love to show some top Cuban muso friends the same so as to see what rhythmic spins they can introduce!
That sounds like it would be fantastic sounding!
I'm going to be "that person" and mention that we should just call this pitch set what it is - a minor 6/9 arpeggio. Wes Montgomery made extensive use of this device well before Coltrane came up in the scene. It's particularly useful since it is a chord common to a variety of key centers!
if you want to be that person, this scale is used a lot in Indian traditional music from ages ago.
The PDF link has expired.. really would love to be able to access it.
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The perfect example of this may be had by listening to Stevie Wonder's Contusion on "Song of the Key Life" as played by the Great Mike Sembellos ("She's a maniac") particularly at the bridge ( D7#9 -Abma9; then D7#9 -GbMa-AbMa9)
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You can say, that is a part of dorian or melodic minor and you are right and is well for our understanding. But, if you play the 4th or the 7th, the sound of the "Coltrane Pentatonic" is lost. If you play the "normal" minor pentatonic, think you that comes from major?
The first 4 chords were the chords from stairway to heaven
It's called a line cliche, it's in tons of stuff
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I think of this as a pentatonic derived from melodic minor or in guitar terms a major blues scale without the the major 3 rd
....or Minor Pentatonic with the 5th flatted.
voronOsphere I know what you mean but in that sense I’d think of it as a minor blues without 5th ,
Amazingly it sounds like minor 6th scale , or a Dorian sharp mode..
Even though it's not the correct term, I sometimes think of this as a minor Pentatonic form of the major. For me that works out.
What kind of effect or mood does this scale induce? What do you take from it?
check out garcia's solos in "help on the way" by the grateful dead
so misterious sound
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D-7sus4b9 = D F A C G Eb right?
And B7alt is tritone sub of F7?
yes D-7sus4b9 = D F A C G Eb right ,... however it is better to Think it as for exemple Ebma7/13(#11), in this case the notes are Eb, g,c,f,a,d and keep in mind that D-7sus4b9 = D F A C G Eb is the same, i think it makes it easier, and And B7alt is tritone sub of F7? yes it is correct the most important notes being Eb and A , if you want to be more precise the tritonus of B7alt is tritone sub of F13,....if you take the most important notes of each chord it will be : F ( Eb, A, D) ......or ...B, (Eb, A, D )...although puristes in the " theorie" in order to stay correct they would write D# for the third of B instead of writing Eb
Djamel Laroussi big thank to Mr Laroussi!😘
@@thienvip21 you are welcome ;-)
Superbe mais comme a son habitude le jazz se la joue ...y a t il moyen d avoir ces infos en tablatures
So, those chords aren't they originated by the Melodic Minor scale? Or, in other way, isn't that "pentatonic" a "reduced" melodic minor scale?
No, the omitted tones need to be altered based on the chord of the moment (perfect 4th, or Augmented 4th, Major or minor 7th). You are safe playing the pentatonic over all them.
are the examples played on this clip written on anywhere?
Hello is it possible to purchase just this lesson with guitar tabs...tried downloading the preview link but that did not work...whatever...interested in purchasing this...thanks!
Да. Мне бы это лет 40 назад, когда я молоткова с маниловым дербанил, пытаясь найти там Джаз!
СПАСИБО!
Согласен. Мне бы тоже
It's interesting how, on dom7 alt, it omits *a* tritone, but it's not *the* tritone of the dominant. I.e. the omitted tones (vis straight alt scale) are the root and the b5 notes of the dominant. Not your father's avoid notes 😉. It's a good John sound.
Thinking easy it would be just a cm69. And in other chords it would be a superimposed arpeggio.
Where is PDF...nice video
The link has expired. Can you reupload please?
Coudnt download, its asking me another link :(