Bluetti AC50S
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- Опубліковано 22 січ 2021
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Please, I beg you, make the video of you building your DIY version of this as beginner friendly as possible. I would love to build my own and I know from looking at your other videos you are capable of showing and explaining the process in a way that will help many of us build our own as well. Thanks!
Watching all these review videos has convinced me to just build my own.
You and me both. I have plans in my head for a rolling job box battery/ inverter setup that is solar charged. Now I just have to convince myself to drop the $$ in it.
Can confirm, I gutted an old goal zero ranger 350 case and used it as a battery box, mounted a charge controller, inverter, and some usb's to the front of the case, and use it to power a diesel heater.
@@trifishtri I'm currently working on a 48v 280ah "camp" solar generator. I'm tired of taking 40 gallons of gas to the lease on the weekends for the generator
Ikr
Isn't that the case with near anything these days lol.
Thanks Wil, I have been watching your channel for a year now and have learned a lot from you and take your knowledge and apply it and share it when needed. I appreciate the time you put into recording and editing your videos. Thank you.
Thanks for sharing which units you recommend. I keep watching reviews and most of them get the smack down. Glad you're encouraging them to improve.
I have had no issues with my two units here in the UK. Mine hold 100% charge during weeks or non usage, perfect for emergencies.
I ran a 50 inch TV for 7 hours and only used about half of one unit.
True. And if you look around on yt. These teardown reviews really different. He is comllaining bout charging time, others praising it, cos its increasing the cycle life of the batteries compared to fastcharging. Another guy is ising 200 watts solarpanel when there is less sun, and this one and others claim it not possible. I ordered one yesterday here in the philippines for 230 euro converted included delivery. I know there more fancy and more expensive ones and other options out there. Butnfor my purpose its good enough. Just to run a fan, modem, laptop, and stuf during the short brownouts we suffer here during the year, specially during rainy season, typhoons. Living im a rental home, so installing solar on the roof or mess with the electrical works is not accepted, which i fully understand. For my littoe overnight outings it will do well too, can charge my action/dashcam batts without using my motorcycle batt. Can charge the phones and heat some water for coffee in the morning on remote places. Also cant bring the portable panels on the motorcycle. Will calculate if it worth to make a solar rack which i can put out easily to charge and safely store inside. You should have seen all the cheaper solar panels here after typhoon. People here really fall for the 0 electric bill hoax with products with short lifespan. They dont calculate the investment. As soon they install some or bought some they say. I got free power, but they didnt make roi yet. For my other appliances i will use gasoline gen if brownouts increase.
I love mine. Ran my CPAP for a week and still had power left. I got 430 wh out of mine
Yeah same, I use this for truck camping and I get a little over 400wh out of it. I think he got a bad unit.
At ac output? Or dc output? Other reviews seem to pull 400Wh from dc output no problem
@@WillProwse dc.
What DC connector do you use for your CPAP. Do you have it connected to the 12V Auto plug or do you use the 12 v 3amp plug. Where do you get these plugs? Will it would be nice to do a little discussion on cables for DC powering the lap top, CPAP, lights, fans etc. I really do miss Radio Shack at this time it. By the way the CPAP I have is Resmed Airsense10.
@@stephengibson6758 I am running it of the AC outlet. I was going to get a dc plug until I realized how long it will run on the ac. I have the resmed 10 also. No humidifier max pressure of 14. The best place to get the 12v adapter if you want it is from Rockpals.
Love the bombardment of new content! I am learning so much from this channel. Thank you!
Never found lack of 12v voltage regulator to be a problem. Most devices I have tested expect to be run off lead acid batteries and have built in voltage regulators. Most will accept 10v to 18v without an issue. Devices using motors do benefit from being run at 15v, but then a regulated 12v output won't help with that
Makes me want to test mine but it's been working flawlessly running an Iceco VL60S charging from a 160w panel 24/7 for a month and a half now. Very happy with it!
How long does it run before needing to be charge to run the fridge?
@@jheighten7568 I imagine it would run 2 1/2 days without charging. I'll probably never know the solar charges on all days but very heavy clouds. In a half a year it has never been below two bars
@@foodforestretirement2799 thanks so much very helpful
That is the dream
A refreshingly honest and very accurate review.
Thanks for the review - I have just bought this - Which solar panel would you suggest to use with it ?
I bought one and get 120 watts hooked up to 150 watt solar panel. Inverter claims 300 watt continuous and 450 watts for up to 2 minutes. I think this unit is the best value in this price range!
Just got mine! 🖤
Great content as always :)
best complet and honest video about bluetti ever. thank you so much
Thanks dude for being our UL listed tester.
Great and honest review ! Thnxs !
I just got one a few weeks ago. On sale for 379. Love it. Have nothing bad to say about it except I don't care for the handles on top. Uncomfortable and doesn't come with a carrying case protector like Jackery does. Wish the Jackery 500 would come with 2 120v outlets like the 300 /1000 ones do
I wish I could get the Jackery 500 here in Australia
I can see we will all be learning how to do this. When buying a used vehicle in the future.
😂 thank you so much for that review! I have the Jackery 500 purchased like a week ago.
Ill wait for the Will diy pack. Thanks
Thank you so much for saving me time and money.
Serious stuff. Thanks.
I get your ongoing complaints about this this thing, but after almost a year mine’s been great. When the sun’s out I charge it with 2 100w soft folding panels in parallel and it charges at 140+ watts. That’s why I got it over the Jackery, or any other I could find.
Wow that's cool!
Thanks Will! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you again!
Hey Will, was that the Bluetti EB 240 that you pulled out toward the end of the video?
Do you get 2x the return of we watch in .5 speed? I'm so glad I didn't buy the ac200. I felt like I kept missing out as the price went up when it was crowd-sourcing.
I just plugged in my 100amp powermax pm4-100lk to charge rv batteries. 4p4s 12v 1120ah. Charging at 90.7 amps on the 280 cells.
Respect your honesty.
Just ordered an eb240... excited to get it-
Have you reviewed the new bluetti eb70 claims everything is regulated. Torn between it and the jackery 500 with solar panels. Help!!
Thanks for sharing.
Great job
The more I learn the more my OCD kicks in and I would just rather design and build myself. Just finished my first solar setup with renogy panels and SOK battery. Definitely going to buy more SOK
Thanks Will!
can i charge a eb3a power station with a 200w solar panel even though the amp and volts are to large?
What’s a goo solar generator to power a fridge or freezer if you lost power to your home?
I need a charge controller for my travel trailer I have a 25w solar panel how big of a controller can I use on that
This is an interesting post. Will is normally a Jackery disliker and I am surprised he recommended a Jackery 500, but glad that he did. I have a Jackery 500 and find it to be my most useful portable power unit. I use it for day trips to the beach or just a day outdoors. The 500 watt hours translates to plenty of DC for my phone, speaker, and BougeRV 23L refrigerator. For just working out doors in powers my AC yard tools with out stringing long power cords. I use it for my hedge trimmers, leaf blower and my edger. In one recent power outage I used it to power my house refrigerator, although the power was only out for a few hours, it did a wonderful job. I own two Jackerys both are over a year old and have been flawless.
We are looking for an affordable battery and panel set up for an off grid system, what would you recommend to be the most affordable?
THANKS MAN.
You're the best
Thank you
Do you have any experience with the cycle satiator charging system? Aimed mostly for ebikes but neat device.
Thanks Will...
Is the super low AC capacity limited to this model or that typical with 500w class solar batteries?
Will you're so awesome! I've learned so much from you. You're a jewel. Thank you!😊
This is the one I am going to get with the solar panel kit. Do they sell replacement batteries for them also?
2:29 wago connectors bro, so much easier/faster and are rated for 32 amps iirc :)
Almost pulled the trigger and ordered this unit Will. Thanks for the advice man.
Which Jackery is better the 250, 300, or 500W? I have a Bluetti 2500P and want something smaller
Regulated isn't always better. The problem is that the regulators in power packs like that are often noisy, making them an unsuitable power source for radios. For that application, the best solution is a power pack that uses 4xLiFePo4 and an output that comes directly from the battery; that way no extra noise is added, and the output voltage will be 12.8V for most of the discharge curve.
The voltage of 11.6V that you saw from the DC power jacks suggests that it's 3x some standard LiIon chemistry. That voltage will quickly drop to 10.8V or 11.1V as the battery discharges, making it unsuitable for 12V appliances (and many radios) as you noted.
I bought one of these acouple years ago and has done great. What would draw more power from this unit? Powering my BougeRV CR45 48 qt. portable fridge it can power via the AC or the DC ports on this unit. Would either connection method draw the same power/drain the Bluetti? Started it up a couple hours ago via the cigarette lighter DC port and it showed a 45w draw when the compressor is running.
Thank you for the videos. I have a question and maybe you could point me to the right direction. We live up in Scandinavia and one of the hobies here is xcountry skiing. During winter we have to wax the skiis on a regular bases and melt the wax with 1000W waxing iron many times outside. What kind of batterypack we should get in order to operate 230 volt waxing iron without any problems? Thank you.
Hope and dream to have one
How long could the jackets run a 60l Engel fridge for roughly? At around 35 deg c
I actually have this unit and I'm happy with it because I got it during a sale on Amazon, but I agree they could do so much better.
Maybe an actual percentage instead of just the same lame five segment battery icon?
Maybe a 500W inverter?
More than 120W of solar input?
60W USB C PD charging?
The only big thing I think you missed when comparing this thing to the jackery is the rated cell life. Maxoak states that these are automotive grade cells rated for 1000 cycles to 80%, while jackery's are only rated for 500 cycles to 80% so that is a big difference.
Still, as always, greatly appreciated the unbiased, no-nonsense, zero bullshit review!
Thanks for the cycling information, could not find it anywhere.
What is the polarity of the 12v outlets ? Are they center positive?
There are a couple of identical devices on Amazon sold under the “Wattfun” and “Tacklife” brand names. I’m not certain if the Bluetti/Maxoak AC50S is an original design. These variants existed during your earlier review.
Good to see more from you Will 👍
Can you please share a link to this solar panel? I can’t hear what you called it. Thanks.
Oh sure thing! And I love rich solar panels. I have used almost every panel, and they are awesome, and dirt cheap. My forum members have the same experience. Heres the link: richsolar.com/collections/solar-panels/products/100-watt-portable-solar-panel?ref=h-cvbzfahsek
Could a generator replace a battery or is that a no go
I use a 200 watt Renology suitcase solar panel and the unit maxes out at 122 watt input. You are incorrect in stating that it maxes out at 83 watts
I’m waiting for you to build one before I get one
I'll never understand why modern manufacturers seem to insist on wasting so much time and effort on making a dozen iterations of sub par products.
Interesting point!
Because they bought the data that proves we are likely to buy the dozens of iterations of sub par products
You are right... but its called TTM Time To Market.... sometimes... tooooo fast ;-)
Apple does this so well with the iPhone
By the time their products are ready and tested to be idiot-proof, the "next new thing" has already come and gone. Only thing I can figure. Either that or their greedy and no very smart.
Hey Will, thanks for the info on these types of products! Can you make a segment (or suggestion) on small, portable solar systems that can handle high temp, desert conditions for camping? (ex: Lake Powell, tent camping in June-Aug with high temps of 110 F)? Powering up shouldn't be hard with all the direct sun, but it will be hard to keep it cool and I don't want to damage a battery (think - no shade). Thanks - NicK
Boss which one is best to BUY, Bluetti ac50s or ECOFLOW RIVER MAX
THANKS 😊
Have you ever reviewed electric generators like the EGO? I need a good generator for van life and I have no idea what to buy 😭
I need an honest opinion, as I want a lightweight portable power station for keeping a laptop battery charged for an extended period, maybe as much as 5-6 charges of laptop battery as I will be working remotely (No access to mains electricity) for a full day. I am in the UK, so will be looking at AC 220-240v, which is the UK standard voltage.
This will be a chunk of money for me, so a one shot deal, I need to get right first time.
My choices are the following.
(1) Bluetti AC50S
(2) Jackery (UK) Explorer 500
Which would be the better unit for working remotely to recharge laptop battery, while the laptop is running. ?
Can someone explain to me why you need 13V for 12V appliances? Or what the proper voltage is? I'd expect that voltage required is 12V
what units have the phosphate batteries?
What is your opinion of the liONcore li-ion battery from the Vertical Partners West/LLC ? How do they compare to the Battleborn? Or is this a battery you've never heard of.
I love your videos disregarding I probably understand 5 % of what you are talking about!. Haha. Anyways for someone like me I would love to hear from you regarding more specific situational applications. Ie I want to cover a situation in my house to cover power loss for 3 days and keep my refrigerator, basic lights , fish tank going. I loved your basic solar contraption building but I guess I am thinking more situational systems. Thank you. You are so smart@
I purchased this before discovering your videos. I have only noticed some items show no draw when charging as another poster mentioned. However, I did connect the unit to a Rich Solar 200w Vmp 18.6v panel and it charged without issue. So is that the onboard mppt doing some magic or did I just get lucky? When I check the manual it says does E18 PC input over voltage protection condition > 45v, recovery condition
Cant wait to see next video. I hope the diy version is easy for a novice 😅
Another great video. Just a heads up. Most of us on the planet have cloudy days. I would be interested to see how these things perform in overcast conditions.
So all I wanna know is will this device run a 12 V small car refrigerator. And for how long?
I purchased this same unit about a year ago. My only use is for car camping. Charging the phone, running 2 USB 6" computer fans and a LED light for reading at night. After watching this video, I'm wondering if I made a bad purchase?
Thanks!
Pls can someone help,I have Blueetti AC50.i bought two solar panels,each 180w/21 VOC/8A and 100w/21 VOC/5A. total VOC is 42, and the AC50 recommended VOC is 40 VOC, I'll it still works for my AC50?
He looks less and less excited reviewing these generators, its like watching Nas talk about rap today. Im still waiting for one that works well, so stay in there Will.
Right now I can get it for 200 Euros. But does this make it any better ?
Hi Will, greetings from Germany and big thanks for your videos! A friend of mine just recommended your channel today. I'm really looking forward for your DIY unit. My AC50S is running fine for my purpose (power grid blackout reserve to power my lights, laptop and radio station) but I agree that these units do have alternating issues. While mine doesn't have the capacity issues of your unit, the output watt meters are behaving strange while the loading input watt meter just runs fine. Example: If I plug in an E27 LED "bulb" rated with 7 W, the display shows 0 W output. If I plug in my 100 W medical infrared lamp, it shows 100 W aaaand when I then plug in the 7 W bulb in addition, it shows 107 W which includes the exact amount of 7 W from the bulb. I have no idea if it has to do with switching power supplies or some construction anomaly on the watt meter itself.
Honestly, I could have built a DIY unit myself as well but since this would need some weeks for me and the power grids here are on the brink of blackout, I still consider it a good solution. However, I really like to see and build your new design since you seem to have a lot of knowledge and practice. Keep up the good work! :)
Have you done any testing on Modified Sine Wave Power Inverters. I realize the pwr is dirty but do they have some uses?.... and they are dirt cheap. Would love your pro/con opinion.
Oh that's a good topic. I ran msw for years in my first systems. Quite a few pros and cons to mention.
Could you review the Bluetti EB70? I need a solar generator for an upcoming trip and that unit is on sale at a very attractive price for the wh
Could it be huge inverter losses from an inefficient pure sine inverter? (If others are getting 400Wh from the DC side) maybe put a clamp dc meter where the dc inverter input is and see how much dc current is it pulling into the inverter while your heat gun is running?
Hi, Good evening from here.i bought a new AC50 last year, I have been using it for close to nine months now,the battery is no longer lasting long as usual.the battery has started having problem,the battery mostly shut down from 40 percent charge level,and start charging From 40 percent when a charger is plug in.the battery now unsually charge faster and goes off faster as well.the battery may jump From 40 percent charge level to 80 percent in less than 2hours,unlike before.then From 80 percent charge,the charging speed I'll reduced to just 1 watts,and this low charging speed May last for days or even week.pls what could be the fault,and what is the solution.this happen both on solar and on electric power.
Hey Will...thanks for another excellent review. I know you've tested the Eco Flow R600. I'd be interested if you had the opportunity to test the new Eco Flow River 600 with the expandable battery pack. It has an incredibly fast recharge rate and I believe it can handle 200 watts of solar.
I just sent my Jackery 500 back after having it for less than two years and using it only 3 times. The cheap switches to turn on the USB ports failed (made in China) after pressing the button 3 times in 1 year in a half. Come to my surprise the flashlight on the left side stopped working also. After COVID up until now, they no longer talk with you on the phone and that was a nightmare doing a return and getting the credit back. So hey Will you may be a Jackery lover but there junk and only offer a 30-day warranty nowadays. By the way, this Bluetti has great ratings from almost everyone but you and Cnet even called it a best buy mid-sized Generator.
You can hook up a 200W panel to the Goal Zero Yeti 500X, though it will only use 150W. (180W max input)
I learn more and more every time I watch your channel. I love your plain language, common sense, and honesty. Thank you!
What do you think about the Poweroak PS5B?
Ran a Dell workstation with dual 4k monitors pulling about 225W for almost 2 hours thru the inverter. After the Bluetti shut down (~425Wh), I turned it back on, turned on DC and was able to charge my phone and run a fan thru the USB ports pulling about 15W for over an hour. I shut it down after the phone was done so don't know exactly how much further it would have gone but 450W total (~90%) seems like a pretty good estimate. My only real complaint besides the 20% bars is that I wish it would give some kind of audible warning a few minutes before it shutdown.
River 600 Max can do all the things you are missing. Fast Charge 1,6h, 200 Watt Solar and so on but it is crowdfunding ;) and it is miles away from the opponents incl. Jackery. Greetings from Germany and keep healthy
And I can't believe there is not a solar generator that can handle 200 watts of solar panels either.
That's exactly what I was researching when I came to your channel Will.
If you want to raise your fun, attach the oszilloscope at high loads... I have no experience with exactly this device sine wave on heavy loads, but other in this cathegory just go nuts.
I actually bought a clone. Saw the Bluetti on Amazon for $429. Ran across one that looked just like it on sale on Walmart, Wattfun for $369. Specs read the same and I will be using it mostly to power a 12 volt fridge.
Thanks for the videos Will.
When I saw the Wattfun it appeared to match the AC50 not the AC50s did you check the specs for the regulated 12 volt. According to Will a non regulated 12 volt doesn't play well with a fridge.
@@paulthompson4618 The 12V output seems to be regulated at 13 + volts. I ran it for several hours with no reduction of volts.
Thanks for the heads up.
The AC50S 500Ah is calculated using the unregulated 11.1v sockets. 45Ah*11.1=499.5Wh. The capacity gets lower using the regulated DC and even lower using the inverter.
Good point
I'm using the ecoflow r600 and I have a 200 watt portable 8lb foldable solar panel. So far I have had readings up to 176 watts input from the panels in winter. I do enjoy a 3 hour charge time with the modular battery attached. Just a little under 600 watt hours. The rumor is that they might update the firmware so that you can do AC & solar, meaning that it can charge 576 watt hours in 75 minutes. Not sure if that can be done, but they do crush the competition with fast recharging right now.
I also use R600max it has 576wh with expansion battery. Fast charging options, regulated 12v output. Also powers coffee maker or 900w microwave. It lowers the voltage to produce the amps/watts.
@@jimt1226 Correct, it brings down the 110vac to about 90 when I plug anything in at 1200 watt. I think Will is spot on when it comes to this unit. It's not meant for everyday use, it's portability and smaller battery lean towards the weekend warrior or someone car camping every once in awhile. I honestly don't think "free energy" will exist in our lifetime. Can you imagine what would happen to you if you ever did find perpetual motion.
To their limited credit, EcoFlow's R600 Pro can connect to 200 watt solar panel and they did actually ship them.
The fans are just always on, which sucks.