Why the Ukraine No-Fly Zone Won't Ever Happen
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@@markqqq_ yes
This reminds me of the time when a US congressman asked a general why they can't just take full control of Syria's air space, and the general had to embarrassingly explain that simply taking over Syrian air space like that requires them to go to war with Syria and Russia.
It's also a reason why Hillary Clinton lost. Part of her platform was to create a no-fly zone over Syria. Trump responded with something to the effect of, "You have to enforce it. That leads to war, and the people here don't want war."
The Russians moved on Ukraine because Ukraine has no military alliance and will never be admitted into the EU or NATO as long as it's an active conflict zone. There is very little to gain here for the Europeans while the Americans run their mouths on the other side of the ocean. Enforcing a no fly zone is guaranteed to unleash WO3 which will result in nuclear war. This is a no win situation for everyone involved.
fyi US is still in Syria- LMAO.. Russia cant do shit... and Europe just sits on the side line like a goodboy and waits for the US to tell it what to do--
Name of that congressman, General? I need that Video
Good thing the US has generals like that to make those big decisions and not the idiotic congressmen.
Here's the thing, some of those polls also asked the question in ways that explained the implications. When people were asked if they supported the no-fly-zone even if that meant directly going to war with Russia the numbers drop off dramatically. Same question asked by/of the same people at the same time received drastically different results when asked with different wordings.
That's true, but it only reinforces the point - people are unaware of the implications and need to be told how the world works.
Totally agree most people don’t look at the aftermath. They hear something sounds good and get behind it without research. If majority of the people know that a no fly zone would cause ww3 they would not get behind it.
Yes, it is completely true, the fact is that many people do not know what the terminology "no fly zone" really means, and a large number actually think that the point is to pass a law that the other side will automatically have to respect. But that is far from the truth. I personally think that this would inevitably lead from local war, in Europe, to WWIII overnight.
@Russian Waifu Russia should give up and become a civilised nation.
exactly
I was in London a few weeks back. In the Soho area, I came across a group of youthful girls (between their teens and 20s) chanting & preaching for the No-Fly-Zone. There were about forty of them. I asked all of them what exactly was the meaning of a No-Fly-Zone over Ukraine. Now, at this point, I had been deliberately ignoring & cutting off all the news. So I was pretty uneducated on the matter, and was genuinely curious to learn more about this war. But the girls reactions, who were preaching for this, were…
They looked away, muttered in confusion, and didn’t give me one single answer.
Just imagine if they were the majority who managed to elect our politicians.
At least I wasn’t advocating for something of which I had zero knowledge.
welcome back to watching & reading news
It’s funny because none of them would be on the battlefields if a war were to happen.
Zoomers and Internet trends.
Well it is democracy 😂
Even though we're so far away, we're still only one country away from Ukraine....
cherish friendly ties with neighboring nations, comrades, because you'll never know when it's gonna end and turn for the worst
Wise words, thank you Mr Un
@@toocrowdedatthebottom1209 Mr Kim. East Asian names have the surname first and the forename second.
Thank you mr. Simon, I didn’t know that!
It was not enforced in Syria out of fear of confrontation. Enforcing it in Ukraine would mean a direct fight between Russia and the other countries enforcing it without doubt.
We should do it. What's Russia going to do about it?
@@levyroth World War 3
@@levyroth Respond with nukes
@@levyroth have a guess
Russia is also a nuclear armed country, while Syria is not.
Threat assessment has to be considered here.
Poll: 60% of Americans want a confrontation with Russia
Also Poll: 60% of Americans think chocolate milk comes from brown cows
Apparently I'm in the 26 percent of my country that still has the sense to know that a no-fly zone is a bad idea. The fact the percentage for Yes was that high further analyzes the big (and scary) problem regarding education in this country. The average American probably thinks "no-fly zone means no planes, this is great" but this very mindset shows they don't know their own history. And then when Biden makes the right call to not order a no-fly zone, then they're like "Biden isn't brave enough, he's a chicken" and blame Biden for this whole thing when it's not his fault.
When a no-fly zone is ordered, and an American jet attacks a Russian one, Russia will now have the excuse to use their arsenal, or even plot an Alaska invasion to reclaim it. Whose fault would it be now? The ones who pressured him, the ones who didn't do their research. Plus people still blame him for Kabul's fall...even though the Doha Agreement with the Taliban happened under the TRUMP administration
That failure of the Afghanistan pullout was 100 % joe bidens fault. He was the president he was in charge. Don't blame mr.. Trump.
regardless of political stance it just shows how uneducated and how out of touch most Americans are.
Trump is still better than Biden tho😂 if he and Netanyahu was president then it wouldn’t be a war in Ukraine
It’s ironic how you call America uneducated as a immigrant from a place like Cuba which has barely anybody educated and a poverty rate of 26% and yet bring up that Russia could possibly “reclaim Alaska”. Why would Russia attack Alaska of all places, a area with no significant strategic targets and barely any people, if they were at war with the US? Alaska doesn’t have any year round warm water ports too, making a navy ineffective. Go back to cuba and be with your people
Now you liberals are blaming Trump for the miserable bloody pullout of Afghanistan.
Demented old Joe biden messed it up, he was president and he is to blame. For the 16 marines getting killed and the hundreds of stranded refugees.
Typical liberals blaming someone else for the mess this country is in .
Under Trump we had peace and prosperity.
This senile old man took office and within a year we have 2 wars going on
Inflation skyrocketing, crime rate going thru the roof.
The buck stops at the desk of that old man in the white house.
A lot of ppl are ignorant of what a no fly zone actually is and I’m glad this is informative.
Pretty sure if someone is supporting a no fly zone over Ukraine, they know the stakes. Even today, as horrible images of the Russian massacre in Bucha comes out and reports of chemical weapons being used and children refugees being kidnapped and raped by Russian soldiers, I think it’s time we step in and end this. No matter the costs. We can’t leave Ukraine out like this. We are complicit in our inaction and cowardice for what’s happening too. What does it mean when the powerful America just stays by and does nothing in the face of evil? Our founding fathers and American ancestors are rolling in their graves. They would never accept what’s happening now, seeing a European dictator murderous regime steamroll a fledgling Europeans democracy.
"poll after poll across countries western Europe has consistently shown very low support in the general western European public for a no-fly zone over Ukraine. However, the same can not be said of the American public"
Thankfully it would appear the Americans did become more and more informed over time, and luckily we have a far more rational US government in power presently.
The answer is simple. US & NATO fears with Russia. They can just do it in middle east but not Russia.
@@Brevard1986 😬😬😬 "people more informed"?? and "we have a rational governement" are you out of your mind? our news here in America is 100% propaganda! we are supporting Azov neo-Nazis in Ukraine and almost no one here is aware of it! This news is just lies here! Washington d.c. has send billions of dollars of weapons to these Neo-nazis to prolong this war as much as possible so we can weaken Russia. Washington doesn't care about Ukraine, only weakening Russia. We destroyed Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libyia, and so many other countries in the past 20 years and killed over 11 million civilians in these countires and the news is all on "Russian genocide". Washington d.c. is not represented by the people and I would not doubt a civil war coming here soon. I am tired of my taxes dollars being spent like this.
@@Brevard1986 I do wonder whether Trump has spoken his own views regarding the No-fly zone.
Most Americans sadly think a NO FLY ZONE means we can just pick up the phone and tell Putin to stop. The lack of basic historical & political education in my country always bothers me.
Well there's lots of sheeple in the United States now. It's becoming bigger and bigger problem now because they're letting people take away their rights
That's why they vote for Republicans. Because they're ignorant.
The answer is simple. US & NATO fears with Russia. They can just do it in middle east but not Russia.
Yeah, Americans don’t really understand geopolitics unless they specifically study it directly or through history, because they are surrounded by fish and don’t have the need to understand maps outside of the US sadly. When a country like Armenia, Yemen or Ukraine makes a mistake on the world stage the repercussions are huge and immediate when the US makes a mistake they can make like ten more and not get immediately punished on their home soil, you know barring nuclear war.
@Ahhh yes EXACTLY! People are too emotional to think clearly. No wonder that democracy is the worst form of government to rule by
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really not sure what people arguing for the no fly zone are thinking. Putin would not want to look like a pushover after acting as the aggressor, so there's no doubt he would ignore it, in which case you have two options, either A, NATO fight to defend it and make the war worse, or B it doesn't get enforced, in which case it's back to square one but everyone is slightly more pissed than before.
I like how you have a typo saying worst instead of worse. Because: yeah it wouldn’t just be worse but the worst war ever seen probably
When Putin invaded Georgia he pulled out when Bush ordered Navy and Army assets close to the region. In Syria Putin did many terrible things and finally Trump hit a Syrian airbase with a cruise missile strike and then had special forces help the Kurds kill over 600 russian mercenaries - and then Putin stopped committing war crimes in Syria. Any time someone stands up to Putin he like any other bully backs off.
As a Ukrainian, I always felt like asking for no fly zone was part of negotiation strategy of "asking for impossible and getting the maximum" out of sympathetic countries.
Those who support no fly zone are thinking that WWIII is at this point inevitable (or that it has already started). Russia generally prepares their public in advance for things like that. Last year Putin published his essay stating that Ukraine is not a country and Ukrainians are no distinct people. Before Crimea takeover there were public discussions about, well, taking Crimea. Currently Russian propaganda states that all Ukrainians are Nazis and must be punished (intention for genocide which is supported by monstrous Russian actions in occupied Ukrainian territories) and, more interestingly, that the "real Nazis" are the West, that Russia is building "new world order" and their goal is an "open Europe from Vladivostok to Lisbon." Combine that to their initial demands of NATO returning to its 1997 borders - basically, abandoning Central and Eastern Europe to Russia - and the final picture seems grim indeed. Ukraine is not the goal of Putin. It seems it is just the first step.
If NATO - Russian conflict is inevitable (which may as well be if one of the sides, Russia, is willing to gamble on it), doing everything to stop Russia in Ukraine is logical, even at the incredibly high cost. I'm not saying that WWIII is inevitable. I'm just saying there might be logic behind advocating for no fly zone even knowing the risks.
If it escalates as a result, that would be Putins fault for ignoring the no fly zone.
Once poll-takers get the explanation of what a no-fly zone is and what it would lead to, they swith their answer to "no".
Im not so sure. I get the reason we can't have one over all of Ukraine but it feels like we should be able to establish it in some area of Ukraine without having to attack Russian air defenses.
@@hadeees Did you just miss the video? You can't establish a no-fly zone without enforcing it, and that means nuclear war, does not matter if it is whole Ukraine, or part of it. How dumb are u
@@hadeees Why would we do that? Militarily entering Ukraine in anyway just opens up the potential for an incident that leads to war with Russia. Keep supplying Ukraine with weapons and strategic advice, but this is their fight not ours. If we (NATO) wanted it to be our fight, we would have admitted them into the defensive alliance.
@@hadeees Like the wars in the Middle East and North Africa , only we, Europe, will feel the crisis. Nope, don't start that, giving Ukraine javelins is enough.
Yeah, I remember a couple of years ago there was a poll where Americans were asked if they would support a US military campaign against Agrabah and a majority was in favor of that campaign - the thing is: Agrabah is the fictional state from Aladdin.
The US really shouldn't base their foreign policy on public opinion because a large part of the public are idiots.
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In short: the no-fly zone wont happen because that means ww3
I'm thinking Russia is trying to goad the Americans into it ! that's why they started killing civilians
Yup
Zelensky: Give me WW3!
thank you Hero for the TL;DR
Yeah that's why my dad and I said if we established a no fly zone that means WW3. So we are against doing that.
Naive people think that by simply declaring "no fly zone" then it automatically means Russia will obey it. They don't know that it means actively patrolling the skies. It's like putting a speed limit on roads, which is pointless if there are no police to enforce the rules.
Yes, people know that. But alot of people understand that by not confronting Russia, that means Russia is incharge, and we are at the mercy of them. The biggest tragedy in this war is that the west lets Russia think they can controll the escelation. Russia belive they can do what they want. Problem with that is that is not true. There are things Russia can do in Ukraine the enforces NATO to act, and if Russia feels assured NATO will not intervein, they might create that escalation unwillingly in the naive belife NATO is commited to stay away. A Russia that do not fear NATO escalation is alot bigger risk factor for an actual escalation, then a Russia that realize there are limits to how much suffering they can create with this war. And they should constantly feel that they are working against the clock and that every day they continue these attrocities, they are one day closer to bringing NATO in to it.
The answer is simple. US & NATO fears with Russia. They can just do it in middle east but not Russia.
Not naive, dumb people, people who make decisions without knowing anything about a topic.
@@tushargupta1968 or people who remember Ukraine giving up it's nuke program because America promised to have their back and who don't like America looking like a liar. Did my country lie ????
@@blackthornsloe8049 those nukes actually belonged to Russia, Ukraine never had the launch codes, countries lie all the time
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Why on Earth are we polling the public for a No Fly Zone?!?! That is absolutely the kind of drastic decision I do not want to be decided by the general public but for military experts who know what that would mean. Taking that to a public poll is utter insanity.
Look at Brexit!
The experts said the housing market was fine.. just before it crashed.
Polls are done on everything, and have nothing to do with policy lol. Thermonuclear war is typically not decided via polls 😂
It was just a social experiment. The US would never enforce a no-fly zone just because the public wanted it.
And here lies the problem with democracy.
Long answer: This video
Short answer: Nobody wants a world war 3
Except Russia
@@SpiritofNature Russian would get the worse out of it, why would they want ww3?
@@maximilianodelrio everyone willl lose
Except Zelenskyy it seems ( I understand why he wants no fly zone, I'm not Russian bot)
@@SpiritofNature Why'd they want a war just to weaken themselves? If they wanted a world war, They wouldn't care if NATO kept expanding, and they would've likely taken the baltic states already. Wanting to secure your position by invading another country is far different from wanting to start a larger war.
Big respect to you and save the children man!
Another consideration is that so far no fly zones worked when they were protecting citizens against *their own* government that tried to massacre them. Meaning somewhat equalizing the power between civilians vs. the military and not to help one military vs. another.
If you are talking about Libya? If you are then I'm not sure why you would post something you aren't educated about. That "no fly zone. Libya had hardly any planes and they were destroyed very fast resulting in complete air superiority. But it became clear this was a full on regime change operation. We supplied weapons and bombed cities to nothing. And now Libya is in a horrible state. It's ran by warlords and they have a huge slave trade now.
Zelensky knows he's never going to get a no-fly zone. He calls for it as a negotiation tactic, so he can get more aid in other things. It's quite smart really.
I disagree, I think he genuinely thinks he can trick some western countries into doing a no-fly zone. Zelensky is a smart man and knows what a no-fly zone would entail, but doesn't seem to care that Moscow and NY city could end up getting nuked in the process. I like everything Zelensky has said and done, but his request for a no-fly zone makes him look bad. He would be more productive if he spent more time asking NATO to send him Jets, so that Ukraine could defend their own sky. No-fly zone means nuclear war.
Not really smart. Zelensky know they are losing and still sending soldiers to their death and putting civilians at risk, restricting men from leaving the country, forcing untrained people to fight so they are killed for publicity advantages and the such. He's as shitty a leader as he is an actor and this whole thing by him is just a role like in that tv show where he played a president. Not to mention he's a puppet for a billionaire financer with personal agendas and his regime is evil that actually does commit atrocities to ethnic Russians.it's not all just "Russian propraganda"...
Zelensky is a western puppet imo. If he had any power or smarts, this war would have been negotiated out of existence.
USA needs his rhetoric to justify proxy war for public here at home. But it's Ukraine, his country, that would be bleeding. :(
Idk zelensky giving me weird vibes
The man is the highest paid actor, with over a billion dollar worth of net worth and has a 38 or something million dollar mansion in NY
Just a slight correction. Turkey is not a “NATO ally.” It is a NATO member-state. Otherwise, very insightful video.
Well, as long as you hate Soviet Communism, you are a NATO ally
I wrote a book where Turkey is kicked out of NATO.
@@westerncentristrants525 America really doesn’t want to be in nato
@@cooldudecs You mean the Tea Party doesn't...
@@westerncentristrants525, you realize how uncontrollable Turkey would become if kicked out of NATO? If it already behaves like this, being a full-fledged member...
Nicely explained.
As a Polish man I feel ashamed of German and France political decisions which cause Russia to grow. it's all about money, even now - they still see Russia as a business partner. Slava Ukrainie!
This is the best, literally the best, evidence as to why populism or “poll-based policy making” is such a terrible idea.
Democracy is a stupid idea in general when the majority are morons. Works fine at the county and state levels when that's not usually the case, not so much for national or international levels when it often is.
Exactly ! I am sorry, but the average Joe or Jane is most likely either ignorant or cannot grasp the nuances of various problems. Be happy our elected governments have qualified people to deal with these issues for us. “The best argument against Democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.” - Winston Churchill, Former PM of the UK
That's why democracies around the world are representative and not direct.
@@Astuar Even then, representatives are far too often painfully ignorant for the role they are expected to perform. The best kind of elected representative know what they know and what they don't and seeks the guidance of subject matter experts.
still prefer a mixture of both, where the politicians are tasked to inform the public what the said policies/proposals mean, with more of these direct democracy stuff used on domestic issues, rather than international issues
RLL. Thank you for your time and effort in making this video possible.
@Russian Waifu How much land did the US annex in Libya?
@Russian Waifu What foreign terrorist organizations does Ukraine fund and support?
@@Straystar1235 How do you annex land not next to your own? and Ukraines Azov are a bundle of n.a.z.oi groups, even the BBC will tell you that.
I said this from day one and was called a Russian supporter by my liberal friends and my Facebook posted was censored. All for saying we shouldn’t risk nuclear war to support a country which 4 years ago we said was the most corrupt in Europe and was killing its own people in a civil war.
This just shows how good the world has had it with with Pax Americana, the period where the US has been the most powerful nation in the world. Imagine if China or Russia had been the most powerful nation in the world. Things would be a lot worse
@13:07: That's actually a *Vietnamese MiG fighter* , as you can obviously see from the design; *Russian MiG fighters* are both *designed and painted differently.*
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R.I.P To all who have died and Hope all civilians stay strong in these though times
Hope Ukraine is able to hold out
@@USSAnimeNCC- in my opinion surrendering then fighting guerrilla will cause less damage to infrastructure, civilians and will be easier cus guerilla is most effective and Russia would not be able to hold out... I know its much complex than just this but no problem in guessing
R.I.P To all who have died because of Usa invasions and war(killed millions)
Usa do war in order to maintain peace😂
Sell most weapons for peace
Civilians: yeah its the ukrainian army
They load their weapons
Civilians: ohhh noooo its the ukrainian army
I am reffuring to bucha and kramatorsk which if you actualy look into all the clues they dont point towards russia
@@homingmissile5459 but that would give Russia full control over the Ukrainian government. It would eliminate the democratically elected government and replace it with a Russia-friendly government. The Ukrainian army also could not protect the civilians anymore so Russia would probably execute lots of civilians after every guerrilla attack.
You can see the progression of people in the U.S. learning what a no-fly zone actually is, and what enforcing one would actually mean.
The poll kept going down and down and down. I'd like to see numbers now.
I'm tired of hearing about all this help the poor little Ukrainians nonsense. Collecting billions of dollars for them . What about helping the need and the homeless in your own countries your own people and citizens . Bunch of hypocrites.
Yeah. They don't have the stomach for it. Direct confrontation with Russia means the nuke scene in T2 will be a reality.
@@jessyhuno5087 so, you have no problem with genocide?
@@jessyhuno5087 the world is like the blm house analogy except everything's burning
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Very informative video , many people nowadays just could not imagine the massive implications of actually going to war, it's saddening buts it's an necessary measure to protect the lives of many many more
Thank you RealLifeLore for letting the people know the implications of the no-fly-zone. The conflict in Ukraine sucks but WW3 sucks harder.
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@@indiasuperclean6969 Isn't that a bit mean? Ukraine should be treated as a free and sovereign nation!
@@zeknight4352 The government definitely does not have enough money. We're trillions of dollars in debt and spending like crazy. but yea they could.
The polls in the US just show how the world of many US Americans ends at their borders. Europeans who had war time and time again for centuries are a lot more aware of the relationships to other countries and how devastating a declaration of war could be to Europe.
Your right, But Europe has been the center of global conflicts before America was a thought in England's mind
I wish the US would stay in their borders. The world would be a much better place.
@@paddyodoors2757 ok boomer
Exactly they don’t know almost everything
If Ukraine loses, then Europe and NATO will fall. China, Arabs and India are watching. Arabs already refusing to follow America's requests to increase oil output
In america those researches are done wrong. there was one in which the researchers explained to the public what was a NFZ and only 30% approved.
I think Americans sometimes don’t know that unlike to worldwar 2, the war can come easily to USA too with misseles or rockets. Americans never experienced war on their own ground
Actually, that myth is false. The Japanese invaded islands which belonged to Alaska, so we did experience war on our own ground.
@@williamsherman1942 hahaha Alaska. The polar bears are scared!
@@williamsherman1942 Alaska? who lives there?
I'm in ireland and I have a Ukrainian child in my easter camp. It was nice of the school to help him recover from the war
🙂
I’m sure you have syrian and iraqi children as well and is as suportive. Love to you.
@@URCO70 and Afghan
@@URCO70 No they don't go to Ireland because it is a poor country. 😔
@@opinanlosjovenesrd3477 Ireland is a rich country and yes we have refugees from all over the world, including Africa, Asia, Europe and the Americas.
I'm a lifelong U.S. citizen and resident, but I must say that most U.S. residents have no idea what they are talking about regarding foreign policy.
I'd love to see poll results if the pollsters required respondents to identify Ukraine on a map and (within a 5 year margin) identify when was the last time Ukraine was invaded.
It's easy to have strong opinions on subjects one has zero knowledge of and which you don't think will actually affect you.
Bet they'll bitch about gasoline prices, though.
Ignorance is bliss
It's easy to have strong opinions when evidence of war crimes and civilian casualties are plastered across social media. Or when nearly 8 million children are in danger. I don't want to see how far Russia will take this.
Lmao
Must support the current thing 🗿
Lol, dead on.
It's funny how people think they have a right to opinions on subjects they know nothing about. They get carried away by their feelings, and so couldn't possibly make any sort of rational decision. This is how people blindly end up supporting the wrong things, leading us all into danger. It's a human characteristic that really should be condemned.
Thank you for serving the overall Good by informing people ignorant of the topic.
This video could literally be part of how we avoid WWIII
Look no farther than the Cold War to see the lengths the US and USSR went to avoid a direct confrontation with another nuclear power. Proxy wars have been fought for a long time(Vietnam, Korea, Soviet-Afghan, ect. now Ukraine) but that is still very different than a direct conflict. It is in everyone's, including Ukraine's, best interest to not escalate this into a direct conflict with multiple nuclear powers.
Tell that to the Moron Zelenskij who is encouraging this or other steps directly leading to WW3.
Don't make me laugh.
Putin just showed to the whole world that he (and China by extent) can do whatever they want and US will do sh*t.
Wonder how effective sanctions against cruise missiles? Ask any resident of Ukraine.
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Yup, a poll showed that yeah, around 60% of people in the U.S. want a no fly zone. But when asked if they would want boots on the ground, which is what a no fly zone would inevitably lead to, it's almost flipped and around 60% of people don't want the U.S. to get involved. This was one poll by the way but I think it's very telling.
That poll is pretty flawed though and asked a very charged question with many false premises. The majority of the American public would support a limited intervention. One of the largest and main reasons Biden’s approval rating is in the gutter is because he cowardly retreated from Afghanistan and second, he’s letting Putin blow up Ukrainian civilians and gas them with banned chemical weapons. The American people want more to be done it shows, if they’re supporting a no fly zone in a supermajority. America is so divided right now, and no domestic issue gets more than 50% support. But helping Ukraine and defeating Putin’s war machine is something we could unite from the left to the right wing because the broader public agrees that more should be done.
Out of 400m people in USA how many voted in the poll? £2k? 20k?. That's not the whole American population ?
Probably no boots on the ground. Just them launching on us, us launching on them, and USA, UK, France, China and Russia destroyed.
@@yaqob3275 Yes Musa, that is how statistics work.
The answer is simple. US & NATO fears with Russia. They can just do it in middle east but not Russia.
Sending weapons instead of humanitarian aid and talking about continuing the war instead of diplomacy. Hmm sounds like a good plan, I think Ukrainians will appreciate this
Diplomacy aint gonna work on the Russians lmfao, the Ukrainians already tried to no avail.
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That browser extension is a pretty smart idea
scary how so many people don't understand what a no-fly zone is considering its self explanatory to anyone who knew where Ukraine was before March
RealLifeLore was right, most of the people who call for "No Fly Zone" certainly don't understand the negative consequence of it. The War continues like how it's going, it's only a regional conflict that keeps the battlefield in Ukraine, the battlefield would certainly expand to the whole Europe or even larger region if "No Fly Zone" is imposed.
Imagine what would happen if NATO planes start to shoot Russian Planes or destroy to fire on the ground target inside Russia?! People who protest for "No-Fly Zone" need to appreciate that they can still hold their signs and slogans on a peaceful square because " No Fly Zone" hasn't imposed.
guess better let putin take over europe slowly then. A new country every 4 years. Wouldnt wanna put him in his place before he has had a chance to kill millions.
agreed, cuz if US or any other countries enter war with NATO, instead of holding signs they'll be in the military fighting
Everyone wants to look like a brave freedom fighter until cities start getting hiroshima’d on both sides.
I think there is a general delusion (probably on both sides) that a nuke can be shot out of the sky or something but that’s not the case at all.
They go straight up, way above interception reach and then go straight down. No chance to outmanoeuvre an intercontinental nuke. Once it’s launched the targets are already dead.
0:59 "The Russian Air Force possessions as many as 11 times as many fighters."
1:02 Procedes to show 9 aircraft.
Very Good video Superb animation and well explained !
Thank you for explaining this clearly. I'm super sus about those polls in the States but I think because we've been fighting countries that can't fight back for so long it's given those who think we are invincible a big head and think we can just pick fights wherever we want and whenever we want. And to top it off, it's disrespectful to our armed forces to treat their lives as if were some plaything.
it’s more just a general lack of understanding of what these things entail. most people associate a no fly zone with civilian planes hence the polling.
Super easy to murder cave dwelling opponents.
Funny how the ideals of freedom melt in the face of an actual dicatator.
@@assaqwwq super easy ay? is that why they held out their influence in the mountains while operating out of caves? delusional.
God damn, I appreciate that sentiment. I don’t want to overshare, but I just got off the USS Truman, an Aircraft Carrier which is still operating in the Mediterranean as we had been since December. All I can really say is, I’m glad we didn’t initiate a no fly zone.
It's frightening how many people who call for one have NO IDEA what it actually entails.
Its the media's fault for all of that.
@@KyleandPrieteni yeah, no doubt there. It really feels like they're trying to get ww3 started. That's the kind of irresponsibility from media that makes one wonder if there's actually a secret conspiratorial group pushing it. But honestly it's probably just greed and incompetence.
@@KyleandPrieteni It's the media's fault for a lot of things.
Yes.
There should be one.
Fuck Putin.
Imagine Kennedy backing down out of fear of confrontation.
But your logic means we don't do anything. While Putin advances and escalates it anyway. He isn't stopping. We aren't stepping to to conflict too early - we are already late.
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I thought based on this explanation start that I don't know what a "no fly zone" is, than I listened and understood I understand basic English, basic logic and know history.
The fact that a majority of Americans would support trying to implement a no-fly zone in Ukraine against Russia is an example why absolute democracies are frightening
Also shows that most Americans are ignorant, unintelligent, and incredibly easy to manipulate.
100%
+ they are in their bubble and they have no idea whats going on outside of the US
No. It was because people didn't understand how it worked. When people started to understand it people stopped supporting it. I don't understand how that negativly represents democracies.
USa is hardly an absolute democracy.
Sadly, this is one of the problems with democracy. Many ordinary people often start protesting on the streets and pressuring the government to do things that in reality are not feasible or the best for the country in the long-run. Not saying that autocratic leadership is any better; it is way worse.
Do you mean the no-fly zone?
@@kekerosberg1654 He is trying to say that people in free democracies think that when the govt. does not take an action that the public knows fuck nothing about, they think they are getting oppressed.
Just see the protest in USA. regarding no fly zone.
@@kekerosberg1654 Yes, the whole no-fly zone thing is an example of this
Ignorance is the problem of human individual.
A democratic form of government sucks, its just the best we've got in relation to the alternatives.
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Decisions like that should be left to experts not the public
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Yes but this is just one side of the story i mean russian story is very difrent than its said on west i was furtunate enough to hear bouth sides beacose i live balcans were and west and east trys to hear ther propaganda and to split balkan nasions even more
@@savosavic1222 Seems most slavic folk are saying that, you're not the first i see. I also found it interesting that south america televisions are also reporting truths from this war rather than just go with west propaganda.
@@Tripnotik25 yes
@@Tripnotik25 I would not be 100% sure they are really doing it.
It south american televisions are actually reporthing truths, that is the only good thing they have done maybe in years.
@@Darium147 youtube/sky news have banned your comment but i still see you in my feed and theres nothing wrong with what you said. If youre interested, the news channel ive watched some in the last week, its TeleSUR English, ive also watched in spanish as i understand the language. If they have always been good i dont know, but they are reporting from both sides, and interview civilians, and all those people talk, some of them in tears, is of Azov atrocities.
Me being an American (born and raised) living in Germany, I can tell you we don't hesitate about supporting the no-fly zone because wars don't happen in America. They happen in Europe, if things get that bad I'd just leave.
WOW, a unique blend of American you are! Hats off to you.
A nuclear war would destroy America just as much as Europe. There is no escape. Your best bet is neutrality but even then you still have to deal with fallout and nuclear winter.
To give an idea, the Soviet Union created nukes _specifically designed_ to render the USA's prime farmland unusable. Compared to that, hitting big cities is easy.
yeah but ww3 will happen in America and it will be the worst for America because of ICBMs Europe will be destroyed but it won't be a fucking crater + those 10000 nukes will probably create nuclear winter so everyone will be fucked
It's an interesting take, but I'm not sure if it's the principal reason. A CBS News poll was conducted that showed support among Americans for a No-Fly Zone dropped from 59% to 38% when they discovered it would be declared an act of war. Still a worryingly high number, but not nearly the majority when informed of the facts.
From the American POV, war is something that happens far away which they see on television.
Always informative, thank you.
It would be interesting to see a video similar to that of your 'what if every stan country became one country' but with every country ending with 'ia' such as Croatia, Algeria, Tunisia, Syria, Latvia etc like the 'ia' empire and how it would function.
It would be led by Russia.
75% have no idea what a no fly zone means
what a surprise
It was definitely not a surprise to me because it was in U.S.A.
I was surprised how more than 40 percent European nations still voted for no fly zone.
@@laxmandutt1109 because they think icbms wont reach them
I'm surprised this needs to be explained.
I understand why a no fly zone will be WW3. And sure hell don't want that to happen.
Corporate media and my Twitter tl are full of people begging for one.
some people are too emotional about it ( im not saying you shouldnt be, there are inocent people that die, but lets continue to use our brains and take the route that would kill less, even tho it might be cruel for ukrainians to be left alone)
It’s probably because the US has been very happy to declare a no fly zone over poor countries that they where they are busy “spreading freedom,” and saw no consequences. Americans back home have only seen a sanitised version of the war on the news, so they don’t see the real savagery and death that comes with war.
Im Twitter there are so many morons that want a no-fly zone so yeah it still has to be explained sadly
No fly zone would mean nuclear war. It’s not worth it. Things would escalate too quickly.
Socrates was right when he critizised democracy. Imagine if Nato and US military had listened to those polls.
I wouldn't support a no-fly zone. When they did that to Libya, they bombed an African country with the highest Human Index Value, back into the stone age. I remember reading information after-the-fact how the Libyan population generally enjoyed the luxuries provided by their government beforehand, such as living tax-free, houses being considered as a human right, free education, cheap oil, free land etc. And now, after NATO indiscriminately bombed the country, Libya has entered a decade-long civil war which is still happening to this day with no signs of it slowing down. Or at least the last time I checked it. I really don't like what happened to them. Hence, I will not support another no-fly zone.
US hypocrisy
We can attack any country and give lectures about human rights but we can violate that
Libya 2011
India and bangladesh 1971
Iraq 2003
Iran 2020
Syria and many more
I see you have a brain unlike the rest of the cattle
We shouldn't have done anything in Libya, but we should do it in Ukraine
That's not a No-Fly Zone. That's a bombing.
@@CaptainMisery86 no
Doing something in Ukraine would start a hot war between Russia and US and both the nation's don't want it
America only invades weak nations
Like in 1971
Pakistanis killed 3 million Bangladeshis and r@ped 400k + women
India came to our aid and since pak was an American ally at that time they used human rights as an excuse and they almost nuked india
Same happened with Libya
They had good leadership but US raided Libya because there was a dictatorship
I work at a crisis shelter for ukrainian refugees in the netherlands, even though quite far from ukraine. The stories and images these poor people sketch are horrible. Teenage kids who travel alone, because dad is fighting and mom is dead, most of their other family is dead or missing too. This is not even a rarity.
My deepest respect for ukraine and their people, may this needless suffering end asap!
Edit: since everybody is aggressively wondering why not “insert nationality”?
I work in crisis management and the crisis here is more the sudden amount of people coming here, rather then the tragic stories that come with them. Thats just something that you take home.
I assume every other conflict in any part of the world is just as horrible as this. Which makes this whole story even sadder.
Please be civilized when commenting, this is not a pissing competition of who has it worse.
why ukraine and not palestine? iraq? iran? afghanistan? all the african civi wars
@@Hakimgrr_ all human suffering deserves to end, wherever it is taking place. No one is saying 'only Ukraine'
Why do the optics of Ukrainian men staying behind to fight look leagues ahead of the Syrian men that came to Europe during that crisis. Is it the media or is it true?
We shud also think of the people killed by nato and USA in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya and Yemen... Still ongoing.
Condemn them too and support them with ur time and money. Seems like only when the victims look like Europeans does Europe and Americans cry.
Think about the thousands killed in the donbas since 2014 by Ukraine Nazi AZOV battalion (who are now getting a severe beating by Russia in Mariupol)
Have u helped them? Or do you only cry and mourn who the west don't destroy.
Dear god...
Americans think no fly zone is a car rental.
Love your smooth transitions, as always, but now even more because of this noble cause
A no fly zone over Ukraine is a stupid name because it would turn into a nuke fly zone.
Nukes thrown here and there, who is to blame, WAIT.
LETS BLAME GERMANY WHO HAD NO CONTRIBUTION.
@@laxmandutt1109 what the fuck is your problem?
Unfortunately, I agree that the American public does not understand the consequences of establishing a No Fly Zone. I say this as an American and it is truly disheartening to watch and listen to my peers quoting headlines to one another as if they were discussing real news. The mainstream media as well as social media has thoroughly and completely gripped a sizable portion of the country. Your channel is a great resource for cutting through the BS that surrounds us these days! Keep it up!
Edit: And to be clear, this is not directed at those who disagree with my stance, so long as it is with an informed opinion. Reasonable minds can differ. Rather, it is directed at the media who fail in their duties to accurately inform the public and those who are blind enough to take everything at face value.
What if they know and still want it? It's a little arrogant on your part to assume because they disagree with you they are misinformed.
I understand it, still think the most dangerous ending is allowing russia to win. If russia gets a win, we will have a full world war in 3 to 5 years
@@kiuremneitor5425 Hello! Believe me that is not my intent. I believe reasonable minds can differ about nearly anything. It is my opinion, and I could absolutely be wrong, that the vast majority of the people who voted in these poles are not doing so with an informed opinion. That is not a dig on those with opinions different than my own, just that misinformation and sensationalized media that we are surrounded with are not doing their part to accurately inform the public.
It doesn't really matter how much something "grips" the American public. Until it TRULY impacts Americans financially there is no danger of a no fly zone.
@@kiuremneitor5425 A lot of people didn't even know Ukraine existed before the war.
Like it or not, Zelensky is extremely selfish. He's risking a nuclear war/world war on the entire world just to save his country.
@Nick V Well, in your logic, so is putin? He literally did this because he was paranoid that Nato and ukraine would side together and fuck up his country.
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Stop trolling!
@@focumQuarium ??
I have always been amused by such comments when liars are obsequiously thanked for the "truth".
@@mysterious_21 explain please
@@sleeepys_ че там объяснять? вы верите в то что Россия - агрессоры. Правда на нашей стороне.
As someone from Europe, I have a massive fear response to people from the US saying the US (and with it NATO) needs to get "More involved". Easy to say stuff like that from over there on your comfortable couch isn't it? You probably won't even notice the backlash of your country getting "More involved". Except for the poor US American souls that get sent to Europe to die alongside European citizens. I honestly also don't get why people need an explanation for this to get it. What do you guys think a "no fly zone" means? A magic force field? Russia saying "alright we won't fly there anymore :)"? That's not just stupidity, that's downright laziness. This isn't a Marvel movie or a strategic video game
Exactly that’s what I think. It’s a situation where if implemented we gotta put our money where our mouth is if this were to come into fruition. As stated us as in the U.S. entering a war you can’t reverse. It’s easy to say from our comfort in our homes but these people are fighting for their survival as a nationalist country that we have to be willing to risk our homeland as much as they are. It’s an “all in” kind of gamble so to say like in poker.
Russia wants to fight. BUT they'll never do anything to the US... we only enter the war if we get bombed
Why, yes. Europe burns and we profit from selling arms. It’s a wonderful setup, you see.
Well, I have to think about how emboldened our own autocrats will be if the world accepts their behavior. Anyone want to think what a President Trump or DeSantis will do? Remember how Trump thinks its ok to make a false flag attack against China to get China and Russia to fight each other? Because you don't understand how people like Putin, Trump, and Xi are emboldened when no one stops them from being a threat anymore. Putin ravaged Chechnya, Syria, Georgia, and Ukraine with no significant consequence til MAYBE now. Xi has Uiguirs, Tibetans, and Hong Kongers to grind into dust with no comsequence. And Trump is still a free man with people MORE capable of installing him with or without a free or fair election. Just look at 1/6 and what the GOP has done since then. One of Trump's aides spent time propping up a pro-Russian politician before working for Trump. The same Trump who held up military aid to Ukraine. So what happens there very much affects me here. It would do the world a favor if autocrats feel real fear for once, or failing that, are truly stopped.
moomin, you don't really get it either, because there would be no boots on the ground if we ever fired directly on Russia in any way. It would be nuclear weapons delivered through air and space and from the sea, and it would be the end of the world.
And don't worry, the Americans who actually vote know what a no fly zone means and wouldn't want it, and the US ARMED FORCES ARE OBVIOUSLY ADVISING THE PRESIDENT NOT TO GIVE SUCH AN ORDER AND HE NEVER WILL.
Imagine, if US/UK never exist. It could be world with no wars, provocations, revolutions, no ISIS and etc, no refugees. Unfortunately we have what we have.
The fact this video had to be made is scary. The title could as easily have been "Why we don't bomb Moscow".
I have a small criticism with the bit about Poland and its Migs at 13:04 - the plane you showed stock footage of is from the 1950s. The planes that Poland was offering Ukraine were Mig-29s, much more modern craft than what you showed. And part of the reason the US didn't agree to the trade was that the F-16s in question were already earmarked for Taiwan.
They going to send them to Taiwan because the year or two from now there's going to be a lot of problems in Taiwan besides Russia's winning the war regardless what the news media is trying to tell people.
Umm that's called a correction not a criticism
@@isukdik he didn’t explicitly state that the plane on screen was the plane he was talking about, so it’s an implication at most. So I’d still consider it a criticism.
No fly zone in Bosnia was relatively easy to broke due to mountain terrain and pilots being locals. I remember pilots flying litteraly over the roofs (in full meaning of those words) evading AWACS.
With waste plains of Ukraine no fly zone wouldn't be possible with current technology.
and then there's putins response to worry about
I’m not interested getting myself into a war
People who are calling for a no fly zone just doesn't know what they are talking about.
True
Including Ukrainian President he doesn’t know what is talking about.
@@makeracistsafraidagain7608 He knows a lot of what he is talking about, he has been right about a lot, not this no fly zone ofc. But he is also in a very desperate situation.
I'm sympathetic to many who have called for it as they find themself in an incredible desperate situation. It's then the job of NATO to not approve of a no fly zone
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THANK YOU for that video. You cannot believe how many discussions i had, especially online with people who shame all european governments for not enforcing a no fly zone.... They do not get all the discussed points or just say: "We should just risk the confrontation"....
We should just risk the confrontation. You don't get to pretend to be the world police for 30 years then decide to back off when its an enemy that can punch back.
@@JJAB91 we police weaker powers. We never policed Russia. You don't police other nuclear powers. You just stand shoulder to shoulder, each holding a gun to your own head, promising to shoot yourself and the other person by extension if you believe they will do something crazy.
We cause a nuclear war with Russia, it harms the entire species. I imagine the people in would prefer we not change the weather setting to nuclear winter over Ukraine.
@@JJAB91 Its hard to be the world police though when the world gets turned into a wasteland.
@UAE Emirates Yes. Exactly. We only police little baby nations. We don't risk a nuclear conflict with an actual power to protect those baby nations.
If you are not terrified of a nuclear exchange, then MAD as a concept needs to be revitalized
@UAE Emirates Nukes? Ever heard about that stuff?
13:56 Was suprised to see my city Izmir so suddenly on the screen :)
You mean Smyrna ;)
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The best explaniation I've heard about the No-Fly zone, none of that "I feel..." bs you hear when people decide without any rational thinking. These are the moments where you want a politician or career military leader explaining the consequences that the public wants to ignore cause it hurts their feelings.
It seems that some people think when you say No-Fly zone - someone shuts down air above certain height or increase gravity, so that aviation won't fly. 🙃
The answer is simple. US & NATO fears with Russia. They can just do it in middle east but not Russia.
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This scenario works both ways, which is why the invasion of Ukraine was even more stupid than dangerous. Russian victory in Ukraine, unlike Russian warfare in Ukraine will not be tolerated, nukes notwithstanding. If Russia actually succeeds in its efforts to subdue Ukraine, it risks NATO becoming fully involved. This would be after a protracted war, which will inevitably erode Russian support for the effort in Russia and Belarus themselves. Deployment of tactical nukes is ineffective if you do not have the conventional capability to support the tactics that call for them in the first place. It is that conventional capability that Russia will eventually lose if it does not withdraw. Russia has backed itself into a corner of a war of conventional material attrition, not with Ukraine, but with NATO and perhaps the remainder of the non-aligned world. Even China may see it as an opportunity to appear to be an 'angel' to the west if it comes down against Putin in the end. Russia cannot replenish its conventional capability faster than NATO backed conventional forces can destroy them. By then the Russian people will realize that Putin has distilled the war down to a lose-or-nuke situation. They will choose lose, and will sue for peace with or without Putin, because the average Russian has no dog in the fight with Ukraine in the first place. Nobody but Putin and his political support structure does have a dog in that fight. This is how I know Putin is not crazy-like-a-fox, he is just plain old run of the mill crazy. Disappointing, really.
@@naramsin9838 Read a book called Empires of Trust by Thomas Madden. It will give you some insight into the US, and therefore NATO mindset. The old Soviet Union ws very costly to NATO countries. So to them any political change in the map is interpreted as an attempt to restore the old political map. The correct military response to the invasion is to do everything we can to protract the war. That is horrendous, but you will find most leaders in the west regard a new Soviet Union as more horrendous. Historically, the US and Russia rattled sabers at each other, but never drew them. But the notion of Russia expanding into a new Soviet Union puts a new wrinkle in history. I do not know what the outcome will be, but if the west has anything to do with it there will be no quick outcome, despite the rhetoric calling for a swift end.. A swift end would be to say "shame on you, Russia!" and then stay completely out of it. That they will not do. The only good news is NATO and the US will not be directly involved. We will just continue to support and arm Ukraine, for decades if need be. Putin must withdraw. For his sake, your sake, Ukraine's sake and of course our sake.
@@naramsin9838 Right or wrong, that is not the perception in the US. The leader of Russia is an ex-kgb operative with a history of publicly lamenting the downfall of the USSR. He has invaded a former USSR independent nation, with the stated goal of creating a buffer between Russia and NATO. And his ideology is nothing at all like any part of the spectrum of US ideology, broad as that may be. To the US and Europe this is all about the map, how much of it reads 'Russia' and how much does not. Ideology is secondary rhetoric mill-grist. It always has been. Try reading the book before discussing what it is about. Anything on your reading list that might enlighten me to your position? Convince me the invasion of Ukraine was necessary.
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I’ve lived in America all my life and I’ve never been polled on anything so I can’t believe these polls
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