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Wow, picking this specific sponser for this video is really inappropriate, with a real conflict going on, civillians getting killed. Operations room just wants money for new videos I guess. Hey, you know what you could do? Maybe address the conflict over blood diamonds in South Africa and let one of the warlords who has child soldiers sponser you, since you have no morals and all.
Still waiting for the Battle of Ia Drang 65 Part-2 ... Watching part-1 I subscribed immediately.. & you still haven't told me about the background Music .. where can I find it?
Got my ass chewed by an infantry MAJ once when I was new to the staff world. He said his infantry have "fucking pea shooters" (referring to their M4's). Said he don't wanna kill the enemy with those. Said he wants to kill them with artillery and from as far away as possible
Indeed. It is exactly because of these capabilities, or rather lack of capabilities, that a certain country is currently struggling with its own attempts to project power, just next door....
@@briantarigan7685 well, I am not to say that they aren't winning, slowly, but you compare what they are trying to do now with what we had already mastered back in the 90s, if not since Vietnam, and it's a stark contrast. The Russians/Soviets may have cranked out a lot of airframes over the years, but they never mastered the sophisticated application of air power in the way we did.
@@TheBucketSkill there is frontline, and some cities already in Russia's hands, kiev and kharkiv are still heavily contested, but ukrainian position in the south and donbass are crumbling, in the south, almost all coastal cities except odessa are in Russia's hands, provincial capital of Kherson, mariupol, Berdyansk, and mariupol the 10th largest ukrainian cities, and the second largest cities in Donbass area ( after Donetsk, which are in DPR rebels hands) are now hopelessly besieged with no hope of relief, in the area of Donbass, Ukrainian Troops are being forced to retreat with heavy casualties especially in the area around volnokhava and Severdonetsk Despite all attempt in Propaganda, Ukraine is not winning this war, far from it, with objective observation you would know that Russia keep advancing, they didn't even invade ukraine at full power
You should consider covering the first Gulf of Sidra incident, it was a very interesting operation that is rarely talked about and could be easier to make than big battle videos
Honestly doing both would be pretty cool, especially if done in a similar style to the one done for Stroke-3 evading 6 Iraqi SAMs over Baghdad where it uses the real footage at the end Now I personally haven't been able to find any guncam videos from the first Gulf of Sidra incident, but I have the video for the second one saved on my PC because it's honestly just iconic to me
Very well made video. One thing that wasn't mentioned that might be of interest to some: "Nordo" North was flying that sortie in 90-0778, a new Block 40, but a 2-seat D-Model. The D-models lack some of the avionics of a single-seat Viper, have a lower fuel capacity, and have a slightly tighter front seat compared to the single-seaters. As such they are typically not sent into combat sorties, 778 was there to fly incoming pilots on area familiarization and give the occasional VIP ride. That aircraft only went up that day to put hours on the airframe and manage the phase inspection flow. At the time of this comment, 778 still flies at Luke AFB, Arizona, where she just got a new repaint in desert brown but kept her one-of-a-kind (among Vipers) MiG-25 kill mark.
@@felixgutierrez993 Obviously. I was specifically referring to the asinine "discussions" about imposing a no-fly zone over Ukraine that completely ignore the fact that it is precisely and unavoidably equivalent to just declaring war on Russia. *That's* a conversation we can have, don't get me wrong, but let's call a spade a spade, people. Ay yi yi. Sorry for the rant. :P
@@mattai2354 Real question. Wouldn't the prevalence of unmanned vehicles make this a moot point? With the power of the Bayraktar's in Ukraine, it's obvious that drones and loiter munitions are way more cost-effective than F-22's and F-35's. We could send in a fleet of unmanned drones that can outmaneuver the best of the Russian Air Force. Drones that can withstand 10x the G-Forces of a human pilot. Drones that don't need to be pressurized to hold a bag of meat. There's literally no downsize. We can rev up the Military Industrial Complex if need be.
@@mattai2354 Seriously this video is from an operation in fucking 1993 lol. Do you really think No-Fly-Zones from before the iphone existed would be anything like a no-fly zone today?
@@subashchandra9557 yes, you still have to shoot down planes in a fucking no fly zone, its not a fucking game that any sane person should be wanting to play with Russia.
I was part of OSW from Jan ‘01 to May ‘02. I was actually outside Riyadh at Eskan Village for 9/11. They launched several raids on the Spoon Rest Radars while I was there and the TOC had a wall of stencils of radars and SAMs and the dates they were hit. It was an exciting tour. Little did I know when I came home in May ‘02 I’d be back in Jordan in Jan ‘03 for the invasion of Iraq.
@@morgan97475 it should be. They were planning the move to Qatar when I was there. It was called Operation Desert Shift. They were moving all US assets out of KSA.
Indeed this shows a no fly zone means destroying enemy aircraft and AA sites. But it's a whole other game when new participants in a conflict start shooting down a nuclear nation's planes.
It would be a no fly zone against a near peer advisory with top tier AA and an on paper formidable airforce. Also them being the second largest nuclear power doesn’t help with the final stages of escalation. Iraq would have been safe from any occupation of its territory if it had ICBMs and nukes.
The no fly-zone saved my entire family from massacre. I was born thanks to a US run hospital in Erbil, my mother had lost both of her legs when she gave birth to me. Turkish soldier who were part of the no-fly collation treated us like animals, my older sister who were 10year old at the time was rap3d by turkish soldiers.
People need to stop asking for something that would cause real WW3. We don't need a repeat of 1914 or 1939. So what if one country invades another country. It is not worth 1000s of millions of deaths world wide.
@@robertsears8323 A no fly zone over Ukraine wouldn't necessarily start WW3. It would certainly lead to NATO vs Russia, possibly some CSTO members. But a 'WORLD' war is a stretch.
Jutland, The Lost Battalion, The first Zepplin shot down over Britain would some good WWI videos. I wouldn't mind some larger battles done in multi-part series'
@@samu4176 If Drach could work in some animations, even very simple ones, it would make his already great channel even better. It's hard to visualize some of these battles, particularly battles as dynamic as air and naval battles.
There was an incident around the same time where an American helicopter was mistaken for a Hind and fired upon by a fellow American jet, destroying it. I wish I could remember the date. It was in the Iraq no fly zone.
Big respect for releasing this now. More people need to be made aware exactly what implementing a no-fly zone over Ukraine actually means. It is a declaration of war against Russia, a nation possessing nuclear weapons.
Are you aware this is the Fourth armed military invasion in the last 25 years by Putin into neighboring countries? A no-fly zone is Not a declaration of war. 156, 479 soldiers, seventeen full divisions worth, of troops and tanks and airplanes parked on the border is a very dangerous provocation. And then actually crossing the border in force, using artillery on civilian targets, becomes an actual de facto state a war, declared or otherwise. Which is exactly what he has done. The escalation of force options to Avoid a war with Russia involve numerous measured responses, of arguably various efficacy. The alternative to using counter force options to diminish the threat, is appeasement. Historically that is not an effective option. Up to this point, NATO has done almost nothing substantial save giving some aid. This will never go nuclear. Not even close. It may well get kinetic, and it should. A dictator like Putin only comprehends brute strength show of force. Why? Because it has always worked for him. But his gamble is failing. The Russian way of war, it's tactics and logistics, are hopelessly outdated and ineffective. They are fighting a 1970's style campaign, and it only worked in Ossetia/Chechnya/Crimea because the forces arrayed against it were weaker on every metric that mattered. (Yet still managed to do substantial damage to the Russian war machine.) But this time it's different. The Ukrainian people are standing firm. And the glaring deficiencies in Putin's forces are now worldwide knowledge. To the point where, even if he somehow wins, the Russian military capability will need generations to recover lost face and lost respect. They are hopelessly out-generaled and out-quatermastered. And their remarkably predictable tactics just plain suck. Not to mention troop morale is abysmal. Meanwhile the Ukrainian people continue to hold off a massively superior enemy almost by sheer force of will and basic competency. Putin is the aggressor. And he will retreat. But only after he has taken unsustainable casualties. Which is precisely what the world needs to deliver to him, via NATO or whatever mechanism. When his political power base at home weakens because of internal upheaval, he will be overthrown. The onus of responsibility is on the west to meet this threat head on, by defending the people who are being slaughtered. There is a moral obligation to do this, as well as a very sound logical basis behind stopping a madman in his tracks. And frankly, the only reason NATO exists is to prevent this exact scenario from happening. Personally, I think a no-fly zone is stupidly ineffective. But a five day bombing campaign that reduces every armoured column to burning rubble would end this thing by St.Paddys day. And Putin would get dragged screaming from his bed, marched down to the basement of Lubyanka prison in his pajamas, be summarily informed he was guilty of treason, and some junior grade lieutenant would pull a Makarov out, place it behind Putin's ear, and proceed to splatter brains, bone fragments, and righteous judgement all over the concrete wall... All so you can sleep better at night, knowing there is one less monster under your bed.
@neighbor - J - OMG. Blah, Blah, Blah. Who cares? It's this shit is why the U.S. can't go 10 years without another war. People like you are determined to "police the world." for the greater good. Its bleeding hearts like you is the reason why the U.S. is so hated around the world, cause you are incapable of "minding your own business." A dangerous provacation? Who cares? At the border is still not OVER THE BORDER. You don't get that we are in a new world where, in offensive wars, you are the bad guy by default. No matter the reasons. This whole strike first crap doesnt fly socially, politically, or even militarily anymore. I used to think like you; I wanted to protect people around the world. Now, I'm labeled a monster for it.
@@thepsychicspoon5984 You do know they crossed the border right? The provocation of troop buildup was six months long. No one did anything. Today there is war. A totally preventable war. Remind me again of all the times appeasement and doing nothing work as a strategy...
10:35 that those block 50 F-16's came brand new to Spangdahlem in 1994 as we moved the block 30's out. I was in the blue tail squadron then (23rd FS) I can't imagine what the flight hours are on those things today.
There's an outstanding Sky News interview with Air Marshall Philip Osbourn on UA-cam, he summarises the challenges of managing no fly zone brilliantly. You have to actively police the zone like this, taking out anti air sites and aircraft by being aggressive and not just loitering around as a deterrent. Gotta learn from the history shown here. This video shows how the theory works in practice :-)
I've really appreciated your Twitter coverage of the invasion of Ukraine. Are there videos in the works, or is the conflict still to recent to have the necessary information?
@@popeo1973 yea definitely. Especially with all the information coming out of it you can’t tell what’s true or not until the after action reports. Even then it won’t be too accurate because it’s written by the victor
Can't wait for when in a few years enough info is public for videos detailing what is currently happening in ukraine and what went wrong and right Great video man, calling it a video doesn't even feel right, this is a documentary movie
Love your videos. It's really interesting to see the more detailed accounts of these conflicts and events on both a strategic level and just as a whole.
I was with a LAMPS det that escorted the USS Nimitz to the Gulf in '91, got there AFTER all the fighting was done. Got back to the states, our squadron is decommissioned and I get sent to the Kitty Hawk just AFTER this Southern Watch thing. Oh well, still got two SW Asia medals out of it. 🙄
To think you can just flip a switch and within seconds send out a rocket which will, with astonishing accuracy, slam into a moving jet fighter's cockpit 3 miles away
Loved the video @The Operations Room! Can't wait for the next video guys! My Uncle was an Avionics Technician for the A-6E Intruder Equipped "Green Toppling Pawns" onboard the USS Eisenhower in the 1980's. Would love to see more Vietnam war period Videos as well as Korean war and the Second World War too.
That airplane coming at the screen really scared me as I thought it was going to crash into my bedroom! Now I know how the audience of L' Arrivée d'un train à La Ciotat must have felt!
Now imagine this, but give Saddam a North Korean-type nuclear stockpile with delivery mechanism and an Air Force and AD system personnel worth for something. Now you understand why there will not be a NFZ over the frontiers of Belarus, Ukraine and bloody Russia. Anyone who asks for such a thing either does not understand what they are asking for or they are gamblers, wagering the fate of all mankind.
It’d also be easier to just give them MANPADs since the Russians aren’t utilizing their Air Force that well. The real threat is artillery bombardment. Can’t shoot those down with rockets
All those who seem to think all NATO has to do to ground the Russian air forces is to declare a no fly zone should watch this. The number of aircraft (and air crews) that it took to enforce a no fly zone over southern Iraq was staggering. And this was over a country that was not in a hot war with active AA batteries as well as manpad anti aircraft missiles all over the place. Anyone who thinks a no fly zone over Ukraine without killing Russian pilots and AA and SAM gunners AND losing a bunch of planes and air crew to ground fire or sams is nuts.
Great review as always of a chaotic period after Desert Storm! Also great animations of the Tomahawks launching from the Kitty Hawk Battle Group. I think that is the first time you've shown that.
My brother flew Provide Comfort flights over Northern Iraq so thanks for providing this background on the effort he participated in. You probably know this already, but F-16 pilots refer to their ride as the Viper and not Falcon.😉
@@yedoom Pilots and their crews give their own nicknames for the planes they fly and maintain, The B-52 Stratofortress is called the BUFF, the F/A-18E/Fs Super Hornets are called Rhinos, the A-10 Thunderbolt IIs infamous nickname of Warthog or 'Hog, the F-15E Strike Eagles are called Mudhens. Even the F-35 Lightning IIs have a new nickname, Panthers.
Russian Air Force is vastly inferior. Modern and capable aircraft are produced in quantities just enough to show of on military parades. Battle readiness is low, pilots have less than 2 hours of flight time per week(my friend said that he did one landing per month for half a year). R-77 missile can be compared to early AIM-120 ant it's stil not in the default loadout, pilots expecting to use R27ER. It's not air force that is a threat, it's the nuclear arsenal.
The 1992 coalition fired 45 cruise missiles into a nuclear reactor. The russians this week just went in and took the facility undamaged. But were blamed by all propaganda as 'reckless' for even storming a power plant, let alone bombarding it...
@@Pozi_Drive I'll put you out your misery, they destroyed the Zaafaraniyah Fabrication Facility (missile components) Nobody bombs nuclear reactors, that would be war crime. Oh except Russia did didn't they? Shelled it anyway, they had to scream at them to stop.
@@chamonix4658 They did not bomb the plant, they bombed Ukrainian positions NEAR the power plant, but no shelling was ordered ON said plant. Stop repeating propaganda.
@@hansgruber9685 yeah because Russia will set there and wait for the attacks without any retaliation. Lmao I swear some people are retarded even for a monkey.
Imagine the suffering of the iraqi people because of saddam hussein and the US, having to suffer bombings, sanctions, uprisings, death of family members for a decade.
@Notrius Not really considering the UN ordered this operation to take place and the vast majority of nations that participated weren't even in NATO and Iraq were attacking Kuwait again this is pretty justifiable.
@Notrius And again the only major NATO nations that participated were France, UK, and the US it was a UN resolution not NATO the UN ordered the no fly zone operation, again there wouldn't be any no fly zones if Iraq didn't try to attack Kuwaiti borders.
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I know they are your sponsor and all, but given the current environment....."Wouldn't you like a nice game of chess?"
(can you guess that movie quote??) 🤭
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Wow, picking this specific sponser for this video is really inappropriate, with a real conflict going on, civillians getting killed.
Operations room just wants money for new videos I guess. Hey, you know what you could do? Maybe address the conflict over blood diamonds in South Africa and let one of the warlords who has child soldiers sponser you, since you have no morals and all.
@@wannabedal-adx458 No, Joshua, I can't
Still waiting for the Battle of Ia Drang 65 Part-2 ... Watching part-1 I subscribed immediately.. & you still haven't told me about the background Music .. where can I find it?
"Point blank range" ... "three miles out"
This, to quote another history channel, is modern war.
when you're in a jet flying around the speed of sound, 3 miles is the matter of seconds.
@@jiemingou2010 Probably wasn't even breaking 500 kts. Throttle management
@@koc988 speed means range in a modern BVR engagement, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was hitting mach at this point
Got my ass chewed by an infantry MAJ once when I was new to the staff world. He said his infantry have "fucking pea shooters" (referring to their M4's). Said he don't wanna kill the enemy with those. Said he wants to kill them with artillery and from as far away as possible
Closing at Mach 1, from three miles, makes the merge in less than one Mississippi. That's damn near a guns solution.
The logistics behind these things are mind blowing.
Indeed. It is exactly because of these capabilities, or rather lack of capabilities, that a certain country is currently struggling with its own attempts to project power, just next door....
@@Laotzu.Goldbug idk; their frontline keep advancing, and the Ukrainian didn't have enought power to conduct meaningful counter offensive
@@briantarigan7685 well, I am not to say that they aren't winning, slowly, but you compare what they are trying to do now with what we had already mastered back in the 90s, if not since Vietnam, and it's a stark contrast. The Russians/Soviets may have cranked out a lot of airframes over the years, but they never mastered the sophisticated application of air power in the way we did.
@@briantarigan7685 What is "the frontline?" You sure you know what you're talking about lol...? There isn't one, some cities are under siege.
@@TheBucketSkill there is frontline, and some cities already in Russia's hands, kiev and kharkiv are still heavily contested, but ukrainian position in the south and donbass are crumbling, in the south, almost all coastal cities except odessa are in Russia's hands, provincial capital of Kherson, mariupol, Berdyansk, and mariupol the 10th largest ukrainian cities, and the second largest cities in Donbass area ( after Donetsk, which are in DPR rebels hands) are now hopelessly besieged with no hope of relief, in the area of Donbass, Ukrainian Troops are being forced to retreat with heavy casualties especially in the area around volnokhava and Severdonetsk
Despite all attempt in Propaganda, Ukraine is not winning this war, far from it, with objective observation you would know that Russia keep advancing, they didn't even invade ukraine at full power
You should consider covering the first Gulf of Sidra incident, it was a very interesting operation that is rarely talked about and could be easier to make than big battle videos
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ooh, Gulf of Sidra would be a good one.
Honestly doing both would be pretty cool, especially if done in a similar style to the one done for Stroke-3 evading 6 Iraqi SAMs over Baghdad where it uses the real footage at the end
Now I personally haven't been able to find any guncam videos from the first Gulf of Sidra incident, but I have the video for the second one saved on my PC because it's honestly just iconic to me
@@corinthianimperialstudios704 no one asked
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Are you okay, sir?
A no fly zone is a nice way of saying "we will kill anything that flies". It is not an automatic end of air attacks just because it was declared.
Oh it will be after those words are reinforced with action
Very well made video. One thing that wasn't mentioned that might be of interest to some: "Nordo" North was flying that sortie in 90-0778, a new Block 40, but a 2-seat D-Model. The D-models lack some of the avionics of a single-seat Viper, have a lower fuel capacity, and have a slightly tighter front seat compared to the single-seaters. As such they are typically not sent into combat sorties, 778 was there to fly incoming pilots on area familiarization and give the occasional VIP ride. That aircraft only went up that day to put hours on the airframe and manage the phase inspection flow. At the time of this comment, 778 still flies at Luke AFB, Arizona, where she just got a new repaint in desert brown but kept her one-of-a-kind (among Vipers) MiG-25 kill mark.
Another outstanding breakdown. Well done, as always.
Glad you enjoyed it
@@TheOperationsRoom I have yet to see a single one of your briefings that I did not find to be highly informative.
Exceptionally timely. Thank you for this desperately needed context for the current situation.
For reference (search): 2022 Russian Invasion of Ukraine
@@ScottRothsroth0616 I think that was what he was talking about
@@felixgutierrez993 Obviously. I was specifically referring to the asinine "discussions" about imposing a no-fly zone over Ukraine that completely ignore the fact that it is precisely and unavoidably equivalent to just declaring war on Russia.
*That's* a conversation we can have, don't get me wrong, but let's call a spade a spade, people. Ay yi yi.
Sorry for the rant. :P
I think %99 of people calling for a "no-fly zone" over Ukraine don't know what a no-fly zone is
Maybe they think it's no fries zones!
@@mattai2354 Real question. Wouldn't the prevalence of unmanned vehicles make this a moot point?
With the power of the Bayraktar's in Ukraine, it's obvious that drones and loiter munitions are way more cost-effective than F-22's and F-35's. We could send in a fleet of unmanned drones that can outmaneuver the best of the Russian Air Force. Drones that can withstand 10x the G-Forces of a human pilot. Drones that don't need to be pressurized to hold a bag of meat. There's literally no downsize. We can rev up the Military Industrial Complex if need be.
@@mattai2354 Seriously this video is from an operation in fucking 1993 lol. Do you really think No-Fly-Zones from before the iphone existed would be anything like a no-fly zone today?
Its a zone where certain aircraft can’t fly.
@@subashchandra9557 yes, you still have to shoot down planes in a fucking no fly zone, its not a fucking game that any sane person should be wanting to play with Russia.
I was part of OSW from Jan ‘01 to May ‘02. I was actually outside Riyadh at Eskan Village for 9/11. They launched several raids on the Spoon Rest Radars while I was there and the TOC had a wall of stencils of radars and SAMs and the dates they were hit.
It was an exciting tour. Little did I know when I came home in May ‘02 I’d be back in Jordan in Jan ‘03 for the invasion of Iraq.
Lovely Eskan. It's nearly shut down now I'm told.
Did you guys ever hear rumors about another stealth aircraft that was involved that wasn’t the F-117?
@@F3PIZZA I never did and I worked in the G-3 Operations office.
@@morgan97475 it should be. They were planning the move to Qatar when I was there. It was called Operation Desert Shift. They were moving all US assets out of KSA.
@Nobody it was. Between Jan ‘01 and April ‘04, I spent 30 months in the Middle East. I was only home a short time from May ‘02 to Dec ‘02.
Thank God this video came out.people need to understand a no fly zone means conflict and lives on the line.
Yeah can you imagine how many planes the Russians can send in to a no fly zone ..
Indeed this shows a no fly zone means destroying enemy aircraft and AA sites. But it's a whole other game when new participants in a conflict start shooting down a nuclear nation's planes.
Yeah it seems like people think a no fly zone is like a force field or something.
@@ssp8492 you mean it isn’t declared like Michael Scott declares bankruptcy????
It would be a no fly zone against a near peer advisory with top tier AA and an on paper formidable airforce. Also them being the second largest nuclear power doesn’t help with the final stages of escalation. Iraq would have been safe from any occupation of its territory if it had ICBMs and nukes.
The no fly-zone saved my entire family from massacre. I was born thanks to a US run hospital in Erbil, my mother had lost both of her legs when she gave birth to me. Turkish soldier who were part of the no-fly collation treated us like animals, my older sister who were 10year old at the time was rap3d by turkish soldiers.
9:05 i appreciate the detail of the fuel tanks dropping off
Yeah, I noticed that too. Nice touch.
wait, are those "bomb" looking things under the wings extra fuel tanks? I have always wondered what it is.
@@rickmartony9566 yep the Larger External Bomb looking things are Drop-tanks
Thanks for making this, so tired of people asking for something they don’t understand.
Agreed
People need to stop asking for something that would cause real WW3.
We don't need a repeat of 1914 or 1939. So what if one country invades another country. It is not worth 1000s of millions of deaths world wide.
@@robertsears8323 inb4 people realize it's not only about one country, but maybe they will switch the ruler before that
@@robertsears8323 A no fly zone over Ukraine wouldn't necessarily start WW3. It would certainly lead to NATO vs Russia, possibly some CSTO members. But a 'WORLD' war is a stretch.
@@anthonymcmxcviii6549 Not a stretch when nukes are on the table.
Average politician thinking a no fly zone is just aerial traffic cones.
Or people on social media.
Where would we be without the big brains coming out to educate people who clearly didn't know what a no-fly zone was until now.
I love this channel! Super informative and entertaining.
Glad you enjoy it!
The desert storm series are my favourite.Keep up with the videos!
Glad you like them!
F for the onion shipment which never returned home.
Still waiting for that Battle of Al-Khafji vid
@@TheOperationsRoom I completely agree as well!
Friday night just got even better! Ops room video ohh baby
A no fly zone is essentially a declaration of war.
The production quality of this channel is absolutely insane.
If only Putin knew that he could just play Conflict of Nations.
That's where his strategy came from!
Absolutely love the breakdowns of modern war incidents
It's always a treat when one of these become available.
Incredibly important military history.
Well done for presenting this!
Very relevant to so many issues.
Including current ones.
Your videos are so informative, I love these. Are there any good WWI battles you could do? Or were they too static?
Jutland would be good. The last fleet action of battleships is confusing AF to read.
@@DeliveryMcGee drachinifel covers it quite well but i agree an animated version would be amazing
100 Days Offensive would be an excellent option.
Jutland, The Lost Battalion, The first Zepplin shot down over Britain would some good WWI videos. I wouldn't mind some larger battles done in multi-part series'
@@samu4176 If Drach could work in some animations, even very simple ones, it would make his already great channel even better. It's hard to visualize some of these battles, particularly battles as dynamic as air and naval battles.
There was an incident around the same time where an American helicopter was mistaken for a Hind and fired upon by a fellow American jet, destroying it. I wish I could remember the date. It was in the Iraq no fly zone.
April 14, 1994. Two Black Hawk helicopters were shot down by two F-15s in northern Iraq.
Big respect for releasing this now. More people need to be made aware exactly what implementing a no-fly zone over Ukraine actually means. It is a declaration of war against Russia, a nation possessing nuclear weapons.
Are you aware this is the Fourth armed military invasion in the last 25 years by Putin into neighboring countries?
A no-fly zone is Not a declaration of war. 156, 479 soldiers, seventeen full divisions worth, of troops and tanks and airplanes parked on the border is a very dangerous provocation.
And then actually crossing the border in force, using artillery on civilian targets, becomes an actual de facto state a war, declared or otherwise. Which is exactly what he has done.
The escalation of force options to Avoid a war with Russia involve numerous measured responses, of arguably various efficacy.
The alternative to using counter force options to diminish the threat, is appeasement. Historically that is not an effective option. Up to this point, NATO has done almost nothing substantial save giving some aid.
This will never go nuclear. Not even close. It may well get kinetic, and it should. A dictator like Putin only comprehends brute strength show of force. Why? Because it has always worked for him.
But his gamble is failing. The Russian way of war, it's tactics and logistics, are hopelessly outdated and ineffective. They are fighting a 1970's style campaign, and it only worked in Ossetia/Chechnya/Crimea because the forces arrayed against it were weaker on every metric that mattered. (Yet still managed to do substantial damage to the Russian war machine.)
But this time it's different. The Ukrainian people are standing firm. And the glaring deficiencies in Putin's forces are now worldwide knowledge. To the point where, even if he somehow wins, the Russian military capability will need generations to recover lost face and lost respect. They are hopelessly out-generaled and out-quatermastered. And their remarkably predictable tactics just plain suck. Not to mention troop morale is abysmal. Meanwhile the Ukrainian people continue to hold off a massively superior enemy almost by sheer force of will and basic competency.
Putin is the aggressor. And he will retreat. But only after he has taken unsustainable casualties. Which is precisely what the world needs to deliver to him, via NATO or whatever mechanism. When his political power base at home weakens because of internal upheaval, he will be overthrown.
The onus of responsibility is on the west to meet this threat head on, by defending the people who are being slaughtered. There is a moral obligation to do this, as well as a very sound logical basis behind stopping a madman in his tracks.
And frankly, the only reason NATO exists is to prevent this exact scenario from happening.
Personally, I think a no-fly zone is stupidly ineffective. But a five day bombing campaign that reduces every armoured column to burning rubble would end this thing by St.Paddys day.
And Putin would get dragged screaming from his bed, marched down to the basement of Lubyanka prison in his pajamas, be summarily informed he was guilty of treason, and some junior grade lieutenant would pull a Makarov out, place it behind Putin's ear, and proceed to splatter brains, bone fragments, and righteous judgement all over the concrete wall...
All so you can sleep better at night, knowing there is one less monster under your bed.
@@BeingFireRetardant pathetic little man . You need to see a doctor.
@@BeingFireRetardant Damn only 4 ? those are rookie numbers they got to pump up those numbers. We invade way more countries USA #1 lets go.
@neighbor - J - OMG. Blah, Blah, Blah.
Who cares? It's this shit is why the U.S. can't go 10 years without another war. People like you are determined to "police the world." for the greater good.
Its bleeding hearts like you is the reason why the U.S. is so hated around the world, cause you are incapable of "minding your own business."
A dangerous provacation?
Who cares? At the border is still not OVER THE BORDER.
You don't get that we are in a new world where, in offensive wars, you are the bad guy by default. No matter the reasons. This whole strike first crap doesnt fly socially, politically, or even militarily anymore.
I used to think like you; I wanted to protect people around the world. Now, I'm labeled a monster for it.
@@thepsychicspoon5984
You do know they crossed the border right?
The provocation of troop buildup was six months long. No one did anything.
Today there is war.
A totally preventable war. Remind me again of all the times appeasement and doing nothing work as a strategy...
10:35 that those block 50 F-16's came brand new to Spangdahlem in 1994 as we moved the block 30's out. I was in the blue tail squadron then (23rd FS) I can't imagine what the flight hours are on those things today.
Another excellent video that explains a lesser known aspect of the 'Gulf War'.
I've become a follower of your channel over the last week, and this is, I think, a video that really needed to come out.
Thank you
@@TheOperationsRoom Thanks for the awesome Desert Storm series, have you considered doing a series on the Iraq War? 😃
Another gem. Thank you so much for your quality content
Glad you enjoy it!
Lot more people need to see this. Thank you operations room.
Always a pleasure to see your videos. The graphics are fantastic and really help bring the narration to life.
A new operations room video. Weekend has been made.
Amazing as always. I appreciate the quality of your videos.
Happy to hear that!
Each new Operations Room video for me is not just 'another video to watch now' - it's an event!
There's an outstanding Sky News interview with Air Marshall Philip Osbourn on UA-cam, he summarises the challenges of managing no fly zone brilliantly. You have to actively police the zone like this, taking out anti air sites and aircraft by being aggressive and not just loitering around as a deterrent. Gotta learn from the history shown here. This video shows how the theory works in practice :-)
I've really appreciated your Twitter coverage of the invasion of Ukraine. Are there videos in the works, or is the conflict still to recent to have the necessary information?
I would bet it’s too early to provide accurate information from both sides
Well at least you considered the notion that *actively happening event* can’t be given any kind of overview when it isn’t done
@@Mr.Mouse1234 it be to bias
@@popeo1973 yea definitely. Especially with all the information coming out of it you can’t tell what’s true or not until the after action reports. Even then it won’t be too accurate because it’s written by the victor
@@Mr.Mouse1234 hope nobody wins
Can't wait for when in a few years enough info is public for videos detailing what is currently happening in ukraine and what went wrong and right
Great video man, calling it a video doesn't even feel right, this is a documentary movie
Best summary of Operation: Southern Watch: HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON, OLD MAN?!
Amazing content. Been a fan since the beginning. Keep up the great work!
"Well I was down in Southern Watch, flyin' my F-16, when lead called for a picture, and AWACS came back clean ..."
never clicked faster, these are so well made
5:24 imagine being at an Iraqi radar and seeing that
Always comprehrnsively done, learned something new!
Excellent presentation and such a clear voice
Love your videos. It's really interesting to see the more detailed accounts of these conflicts and events on both a strategic level and just as a whole.
It was almost as if the war never ended.
Then again, there's never been an end to war on earth.
I was with a LAMPS det that escorted the USS Nimitz to the Gulf in '91, got there AFTER all the fighting was done. Got back to the states, our squadron is decommissioned and I get sent to the Kitty Hawk just AFTER this Southern Watch thing. Oh well, still got two SW Asia medals out of it. 🙄
USA: I play the electronic jamming pod card
IRAQ
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Operation SouthernWatch USAF Veteran - Al Jaber, AB Kuwait (1999) 👍🏾
Thank you once again.
One can only dream of when TOR does a whole series on what's now underway in Ukraine.
"clear to kill, he's a bandit" -legend
To think you can just flip a switch and within seconds send out a rocket which will, with astonishing accuracy, slam into a moving jet fighter's cockpit 3 miles away
Loved the video @The Operations Room! Can't wait for the next video guys! My Uncle was an Avionics Technician for the A-6E Intruder Equipped "Green Toppling Pawns" onboard the USS Eisenhower in the 1980's. Would love to see more Vietnam war period Videos as well as Korean war and the Second World War too.
The F-16 pilot "visually identified the bogey as a MiG-25". At 8 miles out?
Another great video. Always well informed video and this one is especially relevant. Keep up the great work.
love the vids keep up the great work
Thanks, will do!
La Drang part two please sir! Love your content!
Putin must've launched this invasion by accident, thinking he was playing your Sponsor's game
That airplane coming at the screen really scared me as I thought it was going to crash into my bedroom! Now I know how the audience of L' Arrivée d'un train à La Ciotat must have felt!
An individual youtube channel yet again wipes the floor of modern media, great video
extremely well done as always
Thanks again!
Rip to the civilians
My VII Corps was only 100 miles from Baghdad during Desert Storm...so close, yet so far.
Now imagine this, but give Saddam a North Korean-type nuclear stockpile with delivery mechanism and an Air Force and AD system personnel worth for something.
Now you understand why there will not be a NFZ over the frontiers of Belarus, Ukraine and bloody Russia. Anyone who asks for such a thing either does not understand what they are asking for or they are gamblers, wagering the fate of all mankind.
A no-fly zone would lead directly to WW3.
It’d also be easier to just give them MANPADs since the Russians aren’t utilizing their Air Force that well. The real threat is artillery bombardment. Can’t shoot those down with rockets
poor saddem
@@PSL416 Russian army is an artillery army
@@StarKillerSK Luckily it's mainly a TOWED artillery army, so counter-battery fire is very effective against it.
Top notch as always. Carry on and keep them coming.
All those who seem to think all NATO has to do to ground the Russian air forces is to declare a no fly zone should watch this. The number of aircraft (and air crews) that it took to enforce a no fly zone over southern Iraq was staggering. And this was over a country that was not in a hot war with active AA batteries as well as manpad anti aircraft missiles all over the place. Anyone who thinks a no fly zone over Ukraine without killing Russian pilots and AA and SAM gunners AND losing a bunch of planes and air crew to ground fire or sams is nuts.
US casualties would be virtually 0.
@@ZzSeaSniperzZ maybe 1 or 2 shot down.
@@ZzSeaSniperzZ u missed a 1 and a 0 following it ...
Could you imagine turning on the radar and ping 100 plus contacts 😂 from the world
Great review as always of a chaotic period after Desert Storm! Also great animations of the Tomahawks launching from the Kitty Hawk Battle Group. I think that is the first time you've shown that.
I love your videos man, keep it up !
My brother flew Provide Comfort flights over Northern Iraq so thanks for providing this background on the effort he participated in. You probably know this already, but F-16 pilots refer to their ride as the Viper and not Falcon.😉
I think its the viper now, but it was the falcon back then. The F-16 has had too many different names lol
F-16 Fighting Falcon is the actual full name of the aircraft, so it makes sense he calls them falcons as shorthand
its officially the Falcon but the usaf nickname it the viper. because fighting falcon sounds shite :D
Supposedly due to the appearance resembling both a vipers head, and the Colonial Viper from Battlestar Galactica.
@@yedoom Pilots and their crews give their own nicknames for the planes they fly and maintain, The B-52 Stratofortress is called the BUFF, the F/A-18E/Fs Super Hornets are called Rhinos, the A-10 Thunderbolt IIs infamous nickname of Warthog or 'Hog, the F-15E Strike Eagles are called Mudhens. Even the F-35 Lightning IIs have a new nickname, Panthers.
It's nice to know what happened in this area after the 1st Gulf War. Nice video.
And this was a no fly zone with a vastly inferior Air Force. Imagine one with Russia.
Russia's air force is still inferior than the US, not as vastly inferior that Iraq's air force but still pretty inferior in terms of numbers.
Air force is not something that matters their ground to air is what matters and their homeland is pretty much untouchable .
Russian Air Force is vastly inferior. Modern and capable aircraft are produced in quantities just enough to show of on military parades. Battle readiness is low, pilots have less than 2 hours of flight time per week(my friend said that he did one landing per month for half a year). R-77 missile can be compared to early AIM-120 ant it's stil not in the default loadout, pilots expecting to use R27ER. It's not air force that is a threat, it's the nuclear arsenal.
Russia’s Air Force is vastly inferior
@@stoutyyyy While it is inferior, it’s not as inferior as you state it is.
Finally!!!
Worth the wait!!!!
In contrast to modern russian air "superiority" it is so impressive to see it done properly in these operations
The 1992 coalition fired 45 cruise missiles into a nuclear reactor. The russians this week just went in and took the facility undamaged. But were blamed by all propaganda as 'reckless' for even storming a power plant, let alone bombarding it...
@@Pozi_Drive
Did they now?
And where did you get this nugget of nonsense?
Honestly
@@Pozi_Drive
I'll put you out your misery, they destroyed the Zaafaraniyah Fabrication Facility (missile components)
Nobody bombs nuclear reactors, that would be war crime.
Oh except Russia did didn't they?
Shelled it anyway, they had to scream at them to stop.
@@Pozi_Drive they shelled it with artillery.......
@@chamonix4658 They did not bomb the plant, they bombed Ukrainian positions NEAR the power plant, but no shelling was ordered ON said plant. Stop repeating propaganda.
Excellent video as usual
No fly zones are cool until the other side has advanced SAMs and fighters.
You take those out first.
@@hansgruber9685 so you go to war first in order to create a no fly zone????
@@whiskey_tango_foxtrot__ No, you identify the locations of those systems ahead of time and take them out when necessary.
@@hansgruber9685 Russia is not Iraq, they will know of an attack and they will prepare then retaliate after.
@@hansgruber9685 yeah because Russia will set there and wait for the attacks without any retaliation. Lmao I swear some people are retarded even for a monkey.
Respect to anyone who has served as a Wild Weasel. Sick unit name.
Thank you. The average American simply doesn’t understand the limits of engineering, much less military power.
You are the channel we need for this war
6:00 just remember ALL THAT FOR 17 targets.
You do not want this shit in Ukraine.
32 tomahawk missiles? Jesus christ, the facility wasn't just 'rendered useless', it was atomized.
would you ever do the Benghazi embassy attack?
5:16 my direct order when my mom doesnt give me cheese sticks
Imagine the suffering of the iraqi people because of saddam hussein and the US, having to suffer bombings, sanctions, uprisings, death of family members for a decade.
You know what they say, sucks to suck
All USAs fault
@@tehrealscrub7226 So the US made Iraq invade Kuwait?
Great as always. I always look forward to your videos.
I appreciate that!
"someone is going to die in the next few minutes and it will not be me or my wingman" fucking badass sir
@the Operations room please continue this series.
Brilliant video. I hope you also cover the no-fly zone they implemented up north for the Kurds.
Recently discovered your channel. Brilliant stuff. Now i have a backlog of stuff to watch :)
Tbh "no-fly-zones" are basically "You can't fly in this area of your own country or this country - but we can".
Its pretty fucking audacious lmao
NATO is basically world police
@Notrius This was a UN operation not NATO.
@Notrius Not really considering the UN ordered this operation to take place and the vast majority of nations that participated weren't even in NATO and Iraq were attacking Kuwait again this is pretty justifiable.
@Notrius And again the only major NATO nations that participated were France, UK, and the US it was a UN resolution not NATO the UN ordered the no fly zone operation, again there wouldn't be any no fly zones if Iraq didn't try to attack Kuwaiti borders.
Thanks for the alert, sounds good
A no fly zone against a powerful state like russia is very scary.
"a powerful state like russia"
Boy did this age like already sour milk.
@Prkau telek Please check reality.
What a great video, keep it up!
I was in the Big Red One during Desert Storm. Everyone was kind of baffled that we didn't get to finish the job.
All they do is lie.
Wish you did a video once a week they’re awesome
OK, now do the sinking of the Moskva
US used it's satellite's to target and guide UKR missiles into sinking ship and killing Russian's.
Very timely. TY