How Feminist Movement Drew Ideology From the Occult

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  • Опубліковано 8 сер 2023
  • The English Romantic poet Percy Shelley, who died in 1822 at age 29, played a significant role in developing the ideas of the feminist movement, author Carrie Gress says.
    Ideas of the “the occult, smashing the patriarchy, and free love” played a significant role in Shelley’s writing and ideology, says Gress, author of the new book “The End of Woman: How Smashing the Patriarchy Has Destroyed Us.”
    Shelley was a “barbaric man” who was “involved in the occult,” Gress says. His wife was Mary Shelley, author of the 1818 novel “Frankenstein,” she notes, and Shelley drew on the ideas of her parents-a vision of a “women’s revolution where there’s no monogamy, there’s no marriage, all of these things are just erased, and people just live this bucolic life without any reference to their human nature.”
    Shelley’s ideology contributed to the modern feminist movement, a movement that has led to what Gress calls “The End of Woman.”
    Gress, also a fellow at the Washington-based Ethics and Public Policy Center, joins “The Daily Signal Podcast” to discuss the history of feminism and explain how the feminist movement has harmed women and left women unfulfilled.

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  • @darrenthewaren5151
    @darrenthewaren5151 11 місяців тому +61

    “Broken people are more easier to control than intact people.” Paraphrasing but that right there is the big key esp for our modern era I see all to often in my own family and coworkers young girls that are constantly at war with their mothers. It kills me to see all this unravel I’m late in the game

  • @dawnemile7499
    @dawnemile7499 11 місяців тому +88

    How refreshing to have an academic who looks at several angles of an issue instead of just through the lens of an ideology.

    • @etsequentia6765
      @etsequentia6765 11 місяців тому +8

      It seems it became illegal in academia NOT to look at everything through the lens of an ideology. Heck, not even Math is safe.

    • @Oysters176
      @Oysters176 5 місяців тому +1

      @@etsequentia6765 I chose to like math as a kid, because I thought I would be protected from the scary and be under some level of objectivity and be able to move towards freedom, under the window, maybe I was naive.

  • @MrJREllman
    @MrJREllman 11 місяців тому +145

    The problem with feminism is that instead of recognising that men loved women, nurtured, provided for, protected and finally liberated them. Feminism focussed almost entirely on men's faults instead of on their qualities. This is the superordinator of all the problems that feminism has unleashed upon the world.

    • @muppetonmeds
      @muppetonmeds 11 місяців тому +24

      The rich man in the Bible gave up a relationship with God for money it's the same trick now the devil is telling women that a great paying career is greater than a relationship with a man and children it's the same trick money over love.

    • @MrJREllman
      @MrJREllman 11 місяців тому +7

      @@muppetonmeds interesting way of framing the situation.

    • @paulatreides4274
      @paulatreides4274 11 місяців тому

      It fails because it is born from the Marxist concept of oppressed versus the oppressor. The movement was about victim revenge from the beginning.

    • @etsequentia6765
      @etsequentia6765 11 місяців тому

      It wasn't even entirely men's faults either.
      If you listen to feminists' proclamations and assertions attentively, you quickly find feminists projected THEIR OWN faults, defects, limitations, dysfunctionalities, inadequacies, neuroses, pathologies, and personal and moral failures onto ALL MEN.
      (sometimes they called it the patriarchy, sometimes they called it hegemonic masculinity, sometimes they called it toxic masculinity, and on and on).
      But that shows feminists have failed from the very beginning, practicing and normalizing that which they claimed to be fighting to eradicate: blatant, primitive, narcissistic SEXISM.
      feminism has no moral right to exist.

    • @siddesman5607
      @siddesman5607 11 місяців тому

      its the same thing the Marxist BLM and Critical Race theorists did. after being liberated from slavery instead of moving forward in life with a sense of freedom and gratitude for the event itself they decided to stay resentful and play victim to all the systems they say oppresses them and make strawman arguments at infinitum.

  • @kimwiser445
    @kimwiser445 11 місяців тому +142

    I remember seeing a video of a white young man in college stand up and apologize for being white and being a man. It was so sad and disgusting to see the woman applauding this.

    • @etsequentia6765
      @etsequentia6765 11 місяців тому +10

      That is hardly the only example of this moral failure. Unfortunately, there were many other examples, even worse ones, over the years.

    • @zenden6564
      @zenden6564 11 місяців тому +7

      Cowardly, but it might still work as a mating strategy with those women applauding. 🤔

    • @BaseballKing44
      @BaseballKing44 10 місяців тому +2

      Ive seen even worse in my culture you can’t inagine

    • @user-gu7lv9gk8m
      @user-gu7lv9gk8m 5 місяців тому

      no, it's disgusting what white men have done to humanity.

    • @mjohnson1741
      @mjohnson1741 21 день тому

      What the HE#L does that have to do with feminism? Maga?

  • @NoTrashInHeaven
    @NoTrashInHeaven 11 місяців тому +64

    Finally, to hear someone speak to the elevation of pets over humans! I need to pre-order her book to help promote it.
    Excellent interview. Thanks!

    • @user-jd9zm4jf3t
      @user-jd9zm4jf3t 11 місяців тому +6

      I'd hate to be DOGmatic about that

    • @JohnGalt99999
      @JohnGalt99999 2 місяці тому

      I am constantly writing comments on every "puppy video" suggesting how wonderful it would be if the millions of people who viewed and gave a thumbs up shared an emotional equivalency with "human puppies." GREAT point NoTrashinHeaven!

  • @UnboxingChristianity
    @UnboxingChristianity 9 місяців тому +19

    Rachel Wilson has a great book on this too and good podcasts. An orthodox home schooling mother.

    • @stanleybroniszewsky8538
      @stanleybroniszewsky8538 2 місяці тому +1

      I knew a woman who homeschooled all of her EIGHT children while the husband worked (as a teacher, so you already know his views of the education system). The last I heard, each child that applied for prestigious colleges was accepted. Not all children can be homeschooled. My son was multiple disabled, so he needed teachers that specialized in such children. But when he got to middle school then high school, totally different. They never taught any of the students like I was taught (parochial school for twelve years). I was two to three grades higher than others that went to public schools at the time.

  • @azwarriorm2617
    @azwarriorm2617 Місяць тому +7

    When I was in my early 30’s ( unmarried not even dating) I realized how lonely I was and was sold a bill of goods that keep me pursuing a “career “ when what a wanted most was my own family.
    I thought I was crazy for thinking feminism did nothing good for me…
    Luckily God blessed me with a great husband and awesome son… I work but my goal in life is to see my family succeed and be happy….

    • @mjohnson1741
      @mjohnson1741 21 день тому

      Then you and this sorry excuse for a woman failed spectacularly at feminism. It's about egalitarianism not a lifestyle?

  • @ruckboger
    @ruckboger 3 місяці тому +10

    It's interesting when I think about Mary Shelley writing Frankenstein, which was originally titled The Modern Prometheus, if I remember correctly. Knowing now that her lover was an advocate of polyamory it makes sense that Shelley would write a novel about building a piece meal man from component parts. It's almost like she couldn't accept a man as sufficient but that things had to be stolen from different people to create the ideal man. Who not coincidentally was tall, strong and intelligent with dark characteristics. Maybe she was unknowingly writing the novel as a rejection of everything Percy Shelley was not.

  • @dixonpinfold2582
    @dixonpinfold2582 11 місяців тому +22

    So a woman traumatized by deeply unsatisfactory relationships with both parents goes on to lay out for humanity what relationships and the whole world should be all about. Makes sense.

    • @neilreynolds3858
      @neilreynolds3858 11 місяців тому +3

      My favorite is when somebody whose dream date turned them down for the prom decided to bring down the government in revenge. It's always about the personal but dressed up as philosophy or rights.

    • @dixonpinfold2582
      @dixonpinfold2582 11 місяців тому +1

      @@neilreynolds3858 👍Pinfold's dictum: Politics is a suit of clothes worn not by a person but a personality.

    • @user-gu7lv9gk8m
      @user-gu7lv9gk8m 5 місяців тому +1

      Patriarchy traumatizes all women, not just a woman.

    • @karelglasner2673
      @karelglasner2673 2 місяці тому

      It traumatizes everyone not just woman and believe it or not that's been the point a trauma based society keeps the masses in prison divided and conquered and every institution has been commandeered to that end

    • @karelglasner2673
      @karelglasner2673 2 місяці тому

      It traumatizes everyone not just woman and believe it or not that's been the point a trauma based society keeps the masses in prison divided and conquered and every institution has been commandeered to that end

  • @fortunatomartino8549
    @fortunatomartino8549 11 місяців тому +31

    This is so important
    It's a question of religion
    Not politics

    • @2coffinfuneral486
      @2coffinfuneral486 11 місяців тому +8

      Religion is politics

    • @fortunatomartino8549
      @fortunatomartino8549 11 місяців тому +7

      @@2coffinfuneral486
      Leading a decent life
      Contributing to society
      Taking care of your family
      Being productive
      What is political about this?

    • @johnisaacfelipe6357
      @johnisaacfelipe6357 11 місяців тому

      Everything.@@fortunatomartino8549 it is just a shame that the good believe it isn't while the bad recognizes it.

    • @felixmidas3245
      @felixmidas3245 6 місяців тому

      People have different opinions about what constitutes a decent life and everything else you mentioned. Funny, you shouldn't have noticed that by now or are unwilling to acknowledge that. In a society you need to bring those different ideas into line. For that you need politics.@@fortunatomartino8549

    • @thieph
      @thieph 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@fortunatomartino8549everything, polis means city.

  • @ambition112
    @ambition112 11 місяців тому +25

    0:39: 📚 Carrie Gress, author of 'The End of Woman: How Smashing the Patriarchy Has Destroyed Us', discusses her journey into researching and writing on the feminist movement.
    3:21: 📚 The definition of feminism varies, but the author focuses on three elements: free love, restructuring society, and involvement in the occult.
    6:47: 🔍 The feminist movement in the 1800s was influenced by the occult and free love ideas of Percy Shelley, as well as the French Revolutionary ideals of Mary Shelley.
    10:47: 📚 The speaker discusses their research on the 1800s, highlighting the prevalence of prostitution, abortion, and infidelity during that time period.
    14:12: 📚 The feminist movement has been influenced by the ideas of the Frankfurt School and Angela Davis, leading to a focus on making women more like men, but this approach has not made women happier and has resulted in power struggles and a misdiagnosis of women's issues.
    17:53: 💔 The feminist movement has taken more from women than it has given, and has narrowed their identity and options, with abortion being a significant issue.
    21:32: 😔 The feminist movement has led to a division between men and women, causing broken families and control over society.
    25:02: 📚 The interview discusses the importance of motherhood and the impact of the patriarchy on women.
    Recap by Tammy AI

  • @deejay8ch
    @deejay8ch 11 місяців тому +4

    Brilliant conversation. Carrie Gress take a bow. I can imagine that your book is a very enlightening read with great insights. Many thanks.

  • @ironfist859
    @ironfist859 11 місяців тому +19

    I want to put a megaphone 📣 up to my phone and blast this message everywhere I go. Amazing information. So applicable for these times.

    • @vivienneb6199
      @vivienneb6199 3 місяці тому

      Why? Are you so weak that you can live your life as you wish to live it?

    • @ironfist859
      @ironfist859 3 місяці тому

      @@vivienneb6199 🤣🤣

    • @vivienneb6199
      @vivienneb6199 3 місяці тому

      @@ironfist859 Ah, I see. You can't, and feminism is to blame for your failures in life. That's sad, and I understand why you are crying.

    • @ironfist859
      @ironfist859 3 місяці тому +1

      @@vivienneb6199 You are so right. 🤣🤣

  • @Ubu987
    @Ubu987 11 місяців тому +31

    We had to destroy the village to save it!
    We had to destroy womanhood to save it!

    • @user-gu7lv9gk8m
      @user-gu7lv9gk8m 5 місяців тому +2

      yup, and we did a great job saving women.

    • @vivienneb6199
      @vivienneb6199 3 місяці тому +1

      Womam are so powerful that they destroyed Western Civ! lol

  • @StimParavane
    @StimParavane 11 місяців тому +109

    Feminism was evil from the get-go.

    • @user-gu7lv9gk8m
      @user-gu7lv9gk8m 5 місяців тому

      Feminism made you an incel.

    • @mysticone1798
      @mysticone1798 3 місяці тому

      Inspired by Marxists, pushed by atheists and occultists, enabled by the leftist mass media and the Deep State.

    • @francikeen
      @francikeen 3 місяці тому

      BAD MEN made feminism necessary and just. MEN abandoned their patriarchal obligations to provide for and protect their wives and children... and preferred to indulge the common male vices: drunkenness, drug abuse, domestic abuse: physical, verbal or psychological, gambling, greed, neglect, pornography, adultery and criminality. Cowards blame women for MEN'S VICES. You are a coward.

    • @roubad9034
      @roubad9034 Місяць тому

      Care to elaborate? I think patriarchy is pretty evil too.

    • @franksu9735
      @franksu9735 Місяць тому

      @@roubad9034 Feminism or patriarchy is opportunity of system required , there should be none of them , people should act from their heart , care with each other.

  • @tinabenson1492
    @tinabenson1492 11 місяців тому +19

    I've never really known much about feminism and I've just always thought that it was just about women getting more opportunities like men.
    However, after watching this video, I think I definitely understand it better.
    This was a fascinating interview!
    Thank you both! 🙂

    • @vg1024
      @vg1024 9 місяців тому +2

      Tina! Read her book. I just did and it's 10x better than this already stellar interview.

    • @garyfrancis6193
      @garyfrancis6193 2 місяці тому

      This idea just occurred to you?

    • @mjohnson1741
      @mjohnson1741 21 день тому

      HOLY 💩! That is the literal definition of ignorance 😳 You don't know much about a topic but take another's opinion about it! Do better for yourself!

  • @StimParavane
    @StimParavane 11 місяців тому +58

    Feminism is a series of rationalisations for selfish behaviour without responsibility. What they have yet to realise is that selfishness only leads to suffering.

    • @UnboxingChristianity
      @UnboxingChristianity 9 місяців тому +1

      Christian spirituality 101!

    • @felixmidas3245
      @felixmidas3245 6 місяців тому

      Why would that be so?

    • @user-gu7lv9gk8m
      @user-gu7lv9gk8m 5 місяців тому +1

      is this the standard incel comment? I have seen this comment before on different channel.

    • @felixmidas3245
      @felixmidas3245 5 місяців тому

      Why don't you check the merit of the argument instead of discriminating the person who brings it forward? You probably wouldn't like it either if someone asked if your argument is the typical feminist argument. A proper debate is about the cause not the people.@@user-gu7lv9gk8m

    • @felixmidas3245
      @felixmidas3245 5 місяців тому

      Is this your standard answer when you don't want or can't engage with the argument and prefer to insult instead of seeing the other as a human being with the same value that you have?@@user-gu7lv9gk8m

  • @bobbybeast1000
    @bobbybeast1000 Місяць тому

    Great video ladies !!! Excellent presentation as well !! Kepp em coming please !! :D

  • @deannemiller891
    @deannemiller891 2 місяці тому

    Just realized this book came out last year. I thought I had to wait a couple months to read it. Can't wait to go get it now! Thanks for this great interview!

  • @loudvisions9156
    @loudvisions9156 4 місяці тому

    This is unbelievable, such good questions, mind-blowing answers!

  • @JasonSilverMusic
    @JasonSilverMusic 3 місяці тому +1

    Very interesting interview. Thank you.

  • @stregalilith
    @stregalilith 2 місяці тому

    These are excellent incisive questions. Thank you.

  • @audreelebdjiri727
    @audreelebdjiri727 3 місяці тому +15

    What a great interview. As a former feminist activist (I was one in the 1980s), I came to rhe realization that feminism was part of a great lie. I wasn't (and still am not) a proper Christian but I do believe that the error of feminism, as with the Enlightenment philosophy that gave birth to it, and later Communism, hinges on a Utopian ideal: that, given the right conditions men and women can flourish iand express their inate "goodness." Nothing could be further from the truth. Human nature is not entirely good. Everyone of is capable of incalculable evil. Hobbes was right. That's why woke ideologies (to use a recent example) require the repressive aparatus of the state to control people to be "good."

    • @stanleybroniszewsky8538
      @stanleybroniszewsky8538 2 місяці тому +2

      It's actually interesting that you mentioned Thomas Hobbes. His name was given to the imaginary real life tiger in the greatest comic strip of all time, Calvin and Hobbes (lol!). And for the record, the little boy Calvin with the unlimited imagination was named after the great Reformation scholar John Calvin. John Calvin and Thomas Hobbes together discussing the nature of mankind - most interesting to say the least.

  • @lsporter88
    @lsporter88 2 місяці тому

    Superb explanations and commentary.

  • @lynandrews4160
    @lynandrews4160 2 місяці тому

    Excellent content. Thank you.

  • @CassandraJay
    @CassandraJay 11 місяців тому +1

    This was great 👍🏼

  • @c.f.okonta8815
    @c.f.okonta8815 11 місяців тому +1

    Awesome discussion

  • @UnexpectedWonder
    @UnexpectedWonder Місяць тому

    She was preachin' and spittin' the Truth! 👊👊✊✊👏👏👏👌👌🙏🙏

  • @RonSmith472
    @RonSmith472 11 місяців тому +12

    This was great!

  • @nancygorman
    @nancygorman 11 місяців тому +5

    Maybe our focus needs to move toward HOW to be a wife/mother/keeper of the home, because many of us did not learn from our mothers. Knowing the only thing that can satisfy us is God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. No matter what mess we find ourselves in they will guide us to all truth and enable us to do it. I pray for every female reading this that this will be your desire. Amen

  • @KaoticOrder
    @KaoticOrder 11 місяців тому +2

    Great video. Keep up the good works.

  • @danielgerard8033
    @danielgerard8033 8 місяців тому

    Where can I find more information about this character named Sidna (?) created by Percy Shelley (mentioned at 9:39)?

  • @saveUyghurs
    @saveUyghurs 3 місяці тому

    God bless you for your writings

  • @axiomist4488
    @axiomist4488 11 місяців тому

    Fascinating ! Who'd have thought Shelley had anything to do with this .

  • @robertmul
    @robertmul 3 місяці тому

    Interesting the roots of this have been hidden in plain sight. Useful content

  • @nsp74
    @nsp74 3 місяці тому

    wow
    percy shelly's poem was quoted by my former pastor several times in his sermons

  • @simonjj7397
    @simonjj7397 11 місяців тому +5

    The book sounds very interesting, I will be getting a copy.
    Superb interview.

  • @rollakosta6554
    @rollakosta6554 11 місяців тому

    Wonderful. Thank God

  • @wdw2540
    @wdw2540 3 місяці тому +2

    I'm a single and childless cat man. I'm loving it!

    • @StillWaters101
      @StillWaters101 3 місяці тому +2

      Same! Except Im a women and dont want anymore than the 1 cat I have. He's purrrfect!

  • @jackieadams673
    @jackieadams673 11 місяців тому +12

    Wow!!!! This is incredible

  • @sachithfernando3918
    @sachithfernando3918 Місяць тому

    This is What a strong Intelligent and Independent woman looks like, she is capable of Independent Thought process without blindly believing Propaganda,
    Very educated and very Smart in identifying the real root cause, and Brave to speak out. Reminded me of That feminist Wrote 'self made Man' , who realise that she was brain washed with Lies and trying to tell the world her experience, later committed suicide because of vicious attacks from her own fellow Feminist. (Anyone dont know story, search for self made man, her interview still available online

  • @pariaheep
    @pariaheep 11 місяців тому +2

    Fantastic conversation!

  • @kaylenehousego8929
    @kaylenehousego8929 11 місяців тому +3

    Thank you both,

  • @samchandler2527
    @samchandler2527 11 місяців тому +5

    I've seen this speaker with a few other interviewers, but I think this young lady asked the best questions and got the best answers.
    Great content. I think the 1st wave feminists were also first wave Progressives - the folks who were for eugenics, and the occult, wanted to see the after-life. This was early in the era of temperance too.

    • @ZackLongdick
      @ZackLongdick 7 місяців тому +1

      I think she got the first wave wrong.

  • @chriskappert1365
    @chriskappert1365 19 днів тому +1

    I am extremely gratefull to feminism , to make me see at young age why to stay single !
    I am 62 now and a verry happy bachellor .
    Thank you feminists !!!! 😊

  • @madhurangika15
    @madhurangika15 4 місяці тому +1

    I wish she had an explanation to, why feminism didn't or (couldn't) diagnose the historical roots and civilization dynamics which pushed to a point women lost their inherent and authentic womanhood from the womb, to heart, to mind. This is a catastrophe that, women and the society at a point failed to recognize and celebrate "womanhood, humanity and woman as a being" despite the identity of a woman as a mother, or a single woman or a factory worker etc. This lack of authenticity about womanhood created a power imbalances. I think I need to read her book to have more clarity about her points.

    • @danielhammond3218
      @danielhammond3218 4 дні тому

      Christianity is the only philosophy or religion that has raised women to a position of honor in society. Feminism seeks to denigrate the role a woman plays in the shaping of the next generation. A woman before feminism was one that we men honored and cherished. That’s all gone now because women want to be “equal.”

  • @gtaylor178
    @gtaylor178 3 місяці тому +3

    Anti-Christ is bad ideas, bad behavior, bad attitudes - all lead to despair. Seek Our Lord and His mercy.

  • @MgtowFreightTrain
    @MgtowFreightTrain 17 днів тому +1

    I have never met a conservative woman in my life. I've seen them in fiction on television but I've never seen them in real life. Even those who claim to be conservative or speak out against feminism they are open feminists and that's what they practice

  • @williamsporing1500
    @williamsporing1500 2 місяці тому +3

    Enjoy the bears ladies…..

  • @rachelpops9239
    @rachelpops9239 11 місяців тому

    Never heard this history but it makes sense

  • @loyaltotruth8435
    @loyaltotruth8435 11 місяців тому +1

    Great interview! Carrie Gress is awesome, glad to hear she has written another book. The culture is in such a deep hole with the devastation that feminism has wreaked. It pervades so much of our society. I hope Dr. Carrie Gress's work will help turn things around.

    • @neilreynolds3858
      @neilreynolds3858 11 місяців тому

      It probably won't. It's gone on for too many generations.

    • @user-gu7lv9gk8m
      @user-gu7lv9gk8m 5 місяців тому

      you can always move to somalia

  • @DamienZachariah
    @DamienZachariah Місяць тому

    Did you know that Mary Wollenscroft ,none other than the writer of Frankenstein also wrote a treatise called The Rights of The Emancipation of Women in 1793?

    • @bluerose2132
      @bluerose2132 Місяць тому

      It was Mary Wollstonecroft's daughter, Mary Shelley who wrote Frankenstein. And it was Mary Wollstonecraft who wrote A Vindication of the Rights of Woman, the first ever feminist book. It was not a man hating book. It was focused more on the idea that women need not be chattels to men and if provided the right opportunities in education, can contribite and offer value outside of the home.

    • @danielhammond3218
      @danielhammond3218 4 дні тому

      @@bluerose2132 but a woman may do that if she wishes. But if so, she should remain single and childless.

    • @bluerose2132
      @bluerose2132 4 дні тому

      @@danielhammond3218 According to you? Why do you fear a woman who is able to be a wife and mother and takes pride in that but also has a passion and wants to contribute her skills and talent in the workforce? It’s not easy to do it all and something has to give, I agree. But it helps when one is married to a secure, self confident and supportive man who doesn’t see her ability as a working woman as a personal threat to his ego or that her working is going to fracture the family. There are certainly women who do not pay attention to the child rearing, yes. But there are also those who become better more attentive and nurturing mothers because they feel valued outside of the home. It’s a choice and decision best made with your spouse or partner.

  • @nofinatorr
    @nofinatorr 11 місяців тому +3

    Very odd. The Vindication of the Rights of Women critiqued inequalities in education and double standards in morality between men and women. It stops way short of saying that women should "crush" the church, military, or government. I don't even think she says women should be able to vote. And is she referring to the poem "Laon and Cythna"? I had to look it up... it's a super obscure Percy Shelley poem about a brother and sister who try to overthrow a tyrant. It's got religious overtones but Cythna has no relationship to Satan and seems really close to her brother, whose name is literally in the title of the poem and is the main character. And even if she did ditch her nuclear family to team up with Satan, she wouldn't be the first independent woman in literature!

    • @ZackLongdick
      @ZackLongdick 7 місяців тому +1

      I felt Carrie got the first wave of feminism wrong.

    • @stregalilith
      @stregalilith 2 місяці тому +2

      Thank you for offering some clarity and reality to the subject. I have also looked into Shelly’s work and found absolutely no satanic connection.

  • @adotg2640
    @adotg2640 19 днів тому +1

    72 million abortions in a year is insane

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman 11 місяців тому +7

    I think Carrie should watch a few conversations with Mary Harrington. Carrie seems to have missed the 19th century's clash of classes wherein Freedom feminism came into conflict with Caring feminism.
    Freedom feminism was written down and promoted by women with an independent income. I think this is why Carrie appears to be blind to the other forms of feminism of the 1800s.
    Working class women (who had a job not a career) were compelled to make a choice between earning a living or caring for their children (Caring feminism).
    Carrie appears to have missed Caring feminism - (such as rhe temperance movement, and women who prefer caring for and raising a family to working in menial occupations) completely.
    I may have missed it, but I missed how contemporary feminism is influenced by the occult.
    James Lindsay has been talking about Critical Social Justice theory as a Gnostic cult.
    Carrie might have wed this to her thesis about Feminism being occult.
    Carrie doesn't seem to explain how Occult religion is incorporated into contemporary thought other than it being atheist and supported by Marxism and "spiralling out of all this". Where and how is this occult?

    • @johnisaacfelipe6357
      @johnisaacfelipe6357 11 місяців тому

      Liberation theology - Read about it.

    • @edatatu2739
      @edatatu2739 10 місяців тому

      Look up Alice Bailey & Externalisation of the Hierarchy

    • @johnisaacfelipe6357
      @johnisaacfelipe6357 10 місяців тому

      won't read a book made by a luciferian. @@edatatu2739

    • @ZackLongdick
      @ZackLongdick 7 місяців тому +1

      I kinda felt Carrie got the first wave of feminism wrong. So what's the correct way of looking at the first wave in the 19th century?

    • @vivienneb6199
      @vivienneb6199 3 місяці тому

      Carrie is just anti-abortion, and she created a narrative so she could dump on women. She is a self-hating woman.

  • @christinat.7264
    @christinat.7264 11 місяців тому +9

    Interesting conversation. Loved hearing the history

    • @sellingacoerwa8318
      @sellingacoerwa8318 11 місяців тому +3

      just fyi people talking on screen doesn't make something history

    • @CJM6
      @CJM6 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@sellingacoerwa8318:eyeroll:

    • @vg1024
      @vg1024 9 місяців тому

      read her book. It's the best book I've read all year.

    • @ZackLongdick
      @ZackLongdick 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@sellingacoerwa8318yeah, I agree with you. And I think Carrie got the first wave of feminism wrong.

  • @bilbobaggins4403
    @bilbobaggins4403 11 місяців тому +2

    You just found out about the seedy side of the Victorian era.😮?

  • @jamesmartello1
    @jamesmartello1 11 місяців тому +7

    The name Syntha terrifies me.

  • @nynoah
    @nynoah 3 місяці тому +1

    Angela Davis was also closely tied to Jim Jones of drinking the koolaid. Look up her speech to the cult in support of the “People’s Temple”.

  • @MrWrath777
    @MrWrath777 3 місяці тому +2

    Greatly needed book - Thank you, Ladies.

  • @user-sh5rz9bh1r
    @user-sh5rz9bh1r 3 місяці тому +1

    Smashing the free-for-all capitalism is more important than smashing the patriarchy. I chide that I am a "Marxist" because I appreciate sociology.

  • @JohnGalt99999
    @JohnGalt99999 2 місяці тому +1

    The demon Baphomet.... The tattoo on the inner forearm is Salve et Coagula. Latin for: Dissolve and rejoin.

  • @kimwiser445
    @kimwiser445 11 місяців тому +15

    There is no Utopia. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. So many of these ideas sound so good but the unintended consequences can be devastating. Milton Freidman said there is no perfect political or economic system. You need to follow the one that does the least amount of harm.

    • @user-gu7lv9gk8m
      @user-gu7lv9gk8m 5 місяців тому

      Why would anyone care about Freidman? As liberals we don't even worship God let alone Freidman.

  • @anthonybarnhart4910
    @anthonybarnhart4910 11 місяців тому +1

    Excellent conversation. I see parallels between the desire to ‘mother’ and the UN’s 2030 and 2050 plans. The DEI and ESG scoring seems to be a masculine tape measure added to very feminist ideology around everyone getting the same outcome independent of effort or opportunity.

    • @parrotshootist3004
      @parrotshootist3004 8 місяців тому

      Those two amount to nitpicking for consensus and conformity. More feminine than masculine.

    • @user-gu7lv9gk8m
      @user-gu7lv9gk8m 5 місяців тому +1

      move to somalia

  • @mysticone1798
    @mysticone1798 3 місяці тому +4

    Just discovered this video now, 8 months too late!!! Anyway, it's still a revelation. Haven't heard feminism spoken about in quite these terms, and I found it very instructive. The "backlash" against feminism isn't coming from a place of hate for women, as is often claimed. It's coming from those who are concerned about saving Western civilization!!!

  • @aljay2955
    @aljay2955 Місяць тому

    You reap what you sow. The smart men realize what women have become and stay socially as far away as possible.

  • @chadparsons50
    @chadparsons50 11 місяців тому +5

    In the USA there were more female CEOs of fortune 500 companies from 1900-1950, than from 1950-2000.

    • @MrJREllman
      @MrJREllman 11 місяців тому

      reference please

    • @fyrdman2185
      @fyrdman2185 11 місяців тому

      What? That sounds like bulllshit.

    • @OneCharmedLife
      @OneCharmedLife 11 місяців тому +3

      @@MrJREllman it’s a stupid comment that doesn’t make any sense at all. The Fortune 500 started in 1955. Women CEOs of big companies before 1950 are zero

    • @MrJREllman
      @MrJREllman 11 місяців тому +1

      @@OneCharmedLife thanks

    • @JimSanchez-lg1nj
      @JimSanchez-lg1nj 3 місяці тому

      Peak Delusion... Male feminists have ruined everything

  • @tomobedlam297
    @tomobedlam297 2 місяці тому

    The host looks a lot like the bee lady! 🐝

  • @relly793
    @relly793 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks ladies

  • @smak387
    @smak387 3 місяці тому

    Is 4th phase "stripping is exercise" or is that 3rd phase still??

  • @MSJ_raptor
    @MSJ_raptor Місяць тому

    It's all Jezebelism. As old as the wind. And once set free, turns into a tornado.

  • @benaiahwright937
    @benaiahwright937 3 місяці тому

    This sounds a lot like Rachel Wilson's thesis

  • @sbswtnchoice
    @sbswtnchoice 3 місяці тому

    Mary Shelley looks like a female version MLB pitcher Nolan Ryan. Both have similar facial features. If you know why I'm making the comparison, then you know.

  • @michaelwynne7513
    @michaelwynne7513 3 місяці тому

    "They were pregnant..." No, she was pregnant.

  • @neilreynolds3858
    @neilreynolds3858 11 місяців тому

    William Godwin seems to be the father of so many things that are wrong.

  • @SeanRhoadesChristopher
    @SeanRhoadesChristopher 2 місяці тому

    Prophecy
    “Then the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this that goeth forth. And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth. And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.” (Zechariah 5:5-11, KJV)

  • @switzerlandful
    @switzerlandful 11 місяців тому +2

    18:01 Would it be fair to say that people who've volunteered in the armed forces, done some other gov work or given some service to society (people with skin in the game or who've sacrifice something) be the only ones allowed to vote?

    • @switzerlandful
      @switzerlandful 11 місяців тому +2

      I sometimes wonder too if raising the voting age isn't a bad idea and also requiring some sort of test ahead of time before you can vote. And also avoiding mass use of mail-in-ballots with unmanned drop boxes. Prohibiting violation of election transparency safeguards and violation of local state laws. There's a lot more too but of course many people don't even believe in a democratic republics anymore or even properly auditing elections.

    • @DreamingDarlin
      @DreamingDarlin 11 місяців тому +2

      I'm a Navy vet and some of the people in the military, especially nowadays, aren't the most sensible people much less patriotic so I'd say no.

    • @muppetonmeds
      @muppetonmeds 11 місяців тому

      Butt then you would only have voters that work for the Government.

    • @felixmidas3245
      @felixmidas3245 6 місяців тому +1

      How about we add people who have bravely spoken out against abuse of power and corruption and how have suffered dire consequences for that?

    • @switzerlandful
      @switzerlandful 6 місяців тому

      @@felixmidas3245 Well yes. Some of them are sadly already dead like Gary Webb or Jeff Bradstreet. But there are others who've been targeted recently by the FBI due to their abortion critical views (i'd have to look up the names). Tulsi Gabbard also was sort of cheated by Google (or whatever corp owns it) regarding advertising she paid for before the 2o2o election (which was a very odd and strange election). Of course Tulsi is already allowed to vote so that is redundant.

  • @Cuvoastoh6321
    @Cuvoastoh6321 3 місяці тому

    Eve spoke of the serpent in the garden when asked by God what happened.
    Adam had covered for the snake and actually blamed God and Eve. Which one do you think is rooted in evil?

    • @duderama6750
      @duderama6750 Місяць тому

      Who do you think wrote that rot? God doesn't write fiction.

    • @Cuvoastoh6321
      @Cuvoastoh6321 Місяць тому

      @@duderama6750 this is what Eve said,
      Genesis 3:13 and the Lord God said to the woman, what is this that you have done? And the woman said, the serpent beguiled me and I did eat.
      Beguiled means tricked.
      This is what Adam said,
      Genesis 3:12
      And the man said, the woman you gave to be with me, she gave me of the tree and I did eat.
      In essence he blames God and Eve. But in Genesis 3:6 we plainly see he is standing right there listening as the snake slanders God to Eve.
      He does not say to God, there was a snake in here talking bad about you and I didn't stop him or object, but rather I let things transpire and this is how it turned out.
      No, no, he didn't admit to God that he let the snake have his own way in the garden because God had put him, Adam in (Genesis 2:15) the garden to "serve and protect," old English, "dress and keep" and Adam has failed his purpose willingly.
      Eve is so poorly informed about the trees she says to the snake, Genesis 3:2&3 we may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden, but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God has said you shall not eat of it neither shall you touch it lest ye die.
      Genesis 2:9 the tree of life is in the midst of the garden and there was no restriction on that tree, neither has God said you shall not touch it, this is the Hebrew practice of Chumra, fencing a law, Google it to find out more.
      Also she doesn't even know she is standing in front of the tree she is not allowed to eat from and Adam who is with her (Genesis 3:6) while all of this is going on, says nothing, does nothing, he does not assert his authority in any way to protect Eve or the garden.

  • @roystonboodoo7525
    @roystonboodoo7525 11 місяців тому +12

    The basics always apply.
    Think through things and it's consequences, then work back to present day reality.

  • @TheWhitehiker
    @TheWhitehiker 11 місяців тому +5

    Perhaps the term patriarchy has played out its worth;
    thanks much, i'm impressed by your position, albeit to be honest i've thought of most of these objections myself.
    What a strange oppressor status--men living fewer years on average than the so-called oppressed group; what presumed dominant group in world history compares to that?

  • @bigkanuna
    @bigkanuna 11 місяців тому +4

    Alister Crowley was an occultist member of the male only OTO. Some women think the occult gives them power. Charles Manson was a warlock in the OTO. Witches' serve warlocks, simps serve witches.

    • @martinwilliams9866
      @martinwilliams9866 11 місяців тому

      The O.T.O. admitted Women, it would be difficult to do 9th degree sexual magick, without them.

    • @bigkanuna
      @bigkanuna 11 місяців тому +1

      @@martinwilliams9866 Like the Free Masons they can use Northern Stars in group meeting. The warlocks pass the witches around in sex gatherings. The male mind is the blue print and the female heart creates. What I find interesting is women using love spells.

  • @PJHamann1
    @PJHamann1 3 місяці тому +1

    Osmotic Marxism, we just absorb it through the culture and the means of cultural production. The long march through the institutions. I never realized hw much Marx I was absorbing through my upbringing until 2020 made me dig into the 20th century evolution of Marxist thought.

  • @stregalilith
    @stregalilith 2 місяці тому

    That’s is the bottom line of all of this talk

  • @ginasalis5880
    @ginasalis5880 7 місяців тому

    How refreshing! Wonderful and so true

  • @JamJestKox
    @JamJestKox 11 місяців тому

    Based😊

  • @materialgirly
    @materialgirly 2 місяці тому

    21:46

  • @mrfake675
    @mrfake675 8 місяців тому +3

    Feminism exposed a lot about females. Hard pass.

    • @user-gu7lv9gk8m
      @user-gu7lv9gk8m 5 місяців тому +1

      move to somalia

    • @mrfake675
      @mrfake675 5 місяців тому +1

      @@user-gu7lv9gk8m Somalia exposed a lot about famine. Hard pass.

  • @yesismemomnahjustyouimagin3494
    @yesismemomnahjustyouimagin3494 2 місяці тому

    You need Rachel Wilson!!!

  • @judyroland2959
    @judyroland2959 11 місяців тому +6

    Its also the ‘most’ important job in the world’ to be a mother, who raises human beings/ grown up people . Daycare and nannies cant raise your’ kids, they hv NO special interest in your kids…

    • @neilreynolds3858
      @neilreynolds3858 11 місяців тому +3

      It's the most important thing a father can do in his life too.

    • @stregalilith
      @stregalilith 2 місяці тому

      This is why we should do all we can to support good parents of both genders to create and raise healthy loving families ❤❤❤

  • @irishrebel374
    @irishrebel374 24 дні тому

    The celtic literature revival in littered with it from late 1800s upwards.

  • @srgarner0
    @srgarner0 11 місяців тому +3

    I unfortunately didn’t hear any direct references to the occult ideologies nor quotes or any direct sources giving evidence. Even though the conversation makes sense, wish the video could have supported the claim of the title better.

    • @muppetonmeds
      @muppetonmeds 11 місяців тому

      This movement started in heaven God was first in command and the devil was second in command just like the wife is in the household but the devil wasn't happy with his position he wanted to be in control of it all so its the same evil movement but instead of God and the devil warring against each other now its men and women.

    • @neilreynolds3858
      @neilreynolds3858 11 місяців тому

      How about the book Satanic Feminism: Lucifer as the Liberator of women in 19th century culture by Per Faxneld instead?

    • @garrettstephens91
      @garrettstephens91 10 місяців тому

      Read her book then. This is a 30 minute interview. Only so much can be said.

    • @user-gu7lv9gk8m
      @user-gu7lv9gk8m 5 місяців тому

      Right wingers are always lying.

    • @stregalilith
      @stregalilith 2 місяці тому

      @@muppetonmedsThis is a gross misinterpretation of Biblical text promoted by some contemporary pastors that has led to a lot of grief and damage to marriage and the family. It is the reason thousands of men and women are leaving their churches while holding on to Christianity and the words and spirit of Jesus.

  • @richjacobs9736
    @richjacobs9736 11 місяців тому +5

    Women you hold the key the question is what kind of babies are you going to have

  • @highlandbackrub4736
    @highlandbackrub4736 Місяць тому

    What if the Occult created feminism. Wouldn’t that make more sense?

  • @wperkins225
    @wperkins225 3 місяці тому +2

    Genesis 3:16 explains a lot. When humans sinned God placed the woman under the Man! This was not about importance, but about God's order in the home! Satan hates God's order and will do anything to destroy it!

  • @DystopianDeepDives
    @DystopianDeepDives 11 місяців тому +1

    i think you're skipping a wave

    • @johnisaacfelipe6357
      @johnisaacfelipe6357 11 місяців тому

      all waves are evil. the only thing that could be thought of as a good thing as suffrage but even that is dangerous.

  • @DeeFrancisPadamadan
    @DeeFrancisPadamadan 8 місяців тому +5

    There is a book by Rachel Wilson published in 2021 called Occult Feminism: The Secret History of Women's Liberation, that also sheds a lot of light on this. You can also draw a connection with "Gnosticism" and "Idolatry" (yes idolatory of the Bible!) to feminism.

  • @a.tevetoglu3366
    @a.tevetoglu3366 3 місяці тому

    Materialism includes the term Mater=mother. Women can't afford to not be materialistically motivated.

    • @stregalilith
      @stregalilith 2 місяці тому +1

      This may have been true in the past and is the basis for the widely discredited theory of female hypergamy but when women can afford to feed and house themselves and their children the she is now on the other foot.

  • @roubad9034
    @roubad9034 Місяць тому

    Well, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Patriarchy is a crappy system too.

  • @brandinshaeffer8970
    @brandinshaeffer8970 3 місяці тому

    All the feminists i know are super into astrology and many play around with themes from witchcraft and "law of attraction" so I'd say the apple is as rotten as its root.

    • @stregalilith
      @stregalilith 2 місяці тому

      How many feminists do you know? None I’ve ever met have anything to do with that crap and in fact just laugh at it as it deserves.

  • @chrishantla503
    @chrishantla503 10 місяців тому

    To begin to understand the feminist movement we must understand empire. Empire is the occult development of human empire by men. Genesis 3 - tubal-Cain, the father of Babel - how men built empire apart from God. Feminism is the reaction of the occult to the occult.
    The Kingdom of God is imbued with such a different spirit for both men and women.