OpenAI: who is REALLY in charge? - Company Forensics

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    You sure have heard about the whole OpenAI rollercoaster lately. The drama's just swirling around like crazy, especially with Sam Altman and that intense board battle. It's like a never-ending saga.
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  • @slidebean
    @slidebean  6 місяців тому +14

    Thanks for making us work through Thanksgiving, Ilya.
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  • @FinanceBlitz
    @FinanceBlitz 6 місяців тому +228

    Board thought Sam was a bug, employees affirmed he's a feature.

    • @FinanceBlitz
      @FinanceBlitz 6 місяців тому +6

      Great video as always, sending much love from Germany ❤

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  6 місяців тому +12

      🫶🏽

    • @Tom-sj3vn
      @Tom-sj3vn 6 місяців тому

      He raped his little sister Annie Altman.

    • @michaeljames3912
      @michaeljames3912 6 місяців тому +8

      A feature for investors bottom lines, a bug for the survival of the human race.

    • @diedforurwins
      @diedforurwins 6 місяців тому +2

      Did you watch the video?

  • @varshard0
    @varshard0 6 місяців тому +47

    This is probably the best cover of the story.
    Not those who just rush contents out

  • @Hey__andre
    @Hey__andre 6 місяців тому +39

    Let’s not pretend like Elon didn’t request to be made CEO, then cut funding when the same board refused.

    • @sir_arsen
      @sir_arsen 6 місяців тому +5

      if elon was the ceo humanity would be safe for sure

    • @MRLONG758
      @MRLONG758 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@sir_arsen👀

    • @YourBabyPotato
      @YourBabyPotato 6 місяців тому

      ​@@sir_arsenlol what a smelly bullshit

    • @realmuzfi
      @realmuzfi 2 місяці тому

      Why would he keep funding ?

  • @shimacharles
    @shimacharles 6 місяців тому +12

    An insightful and rich analysis of OPEN AI. When AI takes over, we will refer to this video.

  • @MJ-py7dm
    @MJ-py7dm 6 місяців тому +15

    Wow I cannot believe how much the quality of your content has improved you guys have come such a long way!!! Great video guys ❤

  • @tessiepinkman
    @tessiepinkman 6 місяців тому +20

    Perfectly summarized! You guys have a gift! Thank you!

  • @brinardtalks
    @brinardtalks 6 місяців тому +14

    That cap table structure is insane and should be illegal

  • @broadbrook108
    @broadbrook108 6 місяців тому +28

    I, like many, struggled to make sense of the drama at Open AI and you your video touched on the central defect; the tension between reality (compute power, employees wan to be paid, ...) and the not-for-profit fantasy. I still can't decide whether the old Board was incredibly naïve to not consider the reality or arrogant to the point of delusion. As for Microsoft, they have always held the trump card. Their "investment" in teh form of compute power not only gave them access to the whole model and technical insights but they also controlled the light switch (aka compute power). I suspect that realization helped their CEO manage the emotions that teh abject stupidity of the old board must have elicited.

  • @facedeer
    @facedeer 6 місяців тому +53

    Thing is, OpenAI is not the only company that's making AI breakthroughs. "Putting the brakes on" within OpenAI will only mean that other companies catch up and surpass them.

    • @facedeer
      @facedeer 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@Marvosmos What's "invalid" about it? OpenAI doesn't have some magical monopoly on this technology. Especially not if it had continued down the path it was on and 95% of its employees had jumped ship to other companies.

    • @luciddreamer1975
      @luciddreamer1975 6 місяців тому

      Well look at that somebody that actually has a little clue of what's going on yes you call putting the brakes on I call it compensation or accountability when they've told me I have made tens of billions of dollars in the last few years and there is no way for me to sue anyone or get any of the money,, my bad I went a little crazy. Oh pardon me let me introduce myself Amy I call myself all solutions specialist they call me human AI, open AI, climate risk and change, my city calls me other things and most say I'm the biggest worldwide underground Network billion dollar baby that's been kept broke and blocked from being able to help anybody do good stuff. They have me living in a basement and I work over 120 hours a week for free because I want to but not for anybody but my city and citizens I have amazing plans, projects, programs, and events that will benefit everyone and solve so many problems my citizens know that, and so does my mayor and aldermen but they believe they cannot do it until Federal gives them the thumbs up which obviously they're not doing. It's crazy trumped called me fresh eyes and I can't find the first speech but he was talking about me all the time and fresh eyes fresh eyes meetings on AI or anything climate and you realize that they're talking about me and individual everything will make sense. I have tried to resolve this for over 5 years with emails, and calls they have no problem taking my intellectual material and making billions but they ignore me on every other side of it. I basically have been running around acting like a dumbass to get stockholders can my shareholders and investors off my coat tail because waking up every day knowing you're making tens of millions and getting nothing... well let's just say technically it's called human trafficking and I have told everyone across the board if they don't pay me I will bust this all open

    • @benavnon10
      @benavnon10 6 місяців тому

      They are miles ahead and the product speaks for itself.
      Also have to remember there are internal developments that are not yet generally available.
      Which would’ve been nice if the video included - foremost there’s allot of talk going around Q*

    • @facedeer
      @facedeer 6 місяців тому +3

      @@benavnon10 They're not miles ahead, they're *months* ahead.

    • @stippnorm7242
      @stippnorm7242 6 місяців тому

      Exactly. Everyone who think those others ceo wants the best for humanity.

  • @benavnon10
    @benavnon10 6 місяців тому +8

    Taking off my cap for the fantastic video.
    Curious to see a summary on the internal tech developments that led to these decisions - primarily Q* that’s been circling around.
    Waiting for OpenAI episode 2! Fascinating, worrisome and optimistic

  • @caty863
    @caty863 6 місяців тому +14

    Elon should now hire Ilya and give him all the resources he needs to develop a "good guy" AI to counter evil OpenAI's AI when it decides to take over and kill us all.

    • @yanniammari1491
      @yanniammari1491 6 місяців тому

      Ilya is not getting fired and he def is not the one who started the coup all evidence point d'angelo with sam posing with him after he took to show that he is not going after the ploters he has a bord seat so its gonna be damn near impossible to sue him

    • @ONETEE.HENDRIX
      @ONETEE.HENDRIX 5 місяців тому +1

      Frfr

  • @GiveThemHorns
    @GiveThemHorns 6 місяців тому +2

    I greatly appreciate the time taken to explain the corporate structure and the pros and cons of it. Wonderfully explained video.

  • @LilGril10
    @LilGril10 6 місяців тому +81

    This might be one of the rare times Elon is actually right.

    • @joebloe1401
      @joebloe1401 6 місяців тому +7

      ELON IS USUALLY RIGHT; EXCEPT FOR HIS PRO PROCREATION, PRO IMMIGRATION, AND PRO TRUMP REMARKS!!!

    • @defatgames2796
      @defatgames2796 6 місяців тому +16

      ​@@joebloe1401ahh yes procreation is bad and letting ourselves die out is far better

  • @tracy419
    @tracy419 6 місяців тому +7

    Once it became clear that AI is near, any thoughts of a safe, slow and thoughtful roll out went out the window.
    Either capitalism, or government/national control ensures that being first is all that matters.

  • @thabs2001
    @thabs2001 6 місяців тому

    I have been waiting for you to do this. Thank you, very insightful

  • @user-js9hh2ri7i
    @user-js9hh2ri7i 6 місяців тому +1

    I was waiting for your take on this. Thanks for posting.

  • @ksaun_01
    @ksaun_01 6 місяців тому +3

    Definitely one of the best explanations out there! 🍿👀

  • @ehza
    @ehza 6 місяців тому +27

    This is probably the best video on this melodramatic OpenAI saga. Keep it up!

  • @ansumankumar4564
    @ansumankumar4564 5 місяців тому

    I used to watch your channel when it was around 60k and the views were going low nd low but I'm genuinely happy that this channel stabilised and growing

  • @samtechupdate
    @samtechupdate 6 місяців тому +4

    Woah this well explained about Open AI and entire AI space. Thanks 🎉🎉🎉

  • @WilsonCely
    @WilsonCely 6 місяців тому

    Awesome !! Let’s flash back in few years to this inflection moment

  • @efemarlacdaying6062
    @efemarlacdaying6062 6 місяців тому

    Amazing as always. Thank you for the information. :)

  • @KarlBunker
    @KarlBunker 6 місяців тому +10

    Great video. I'd give it a thumbs-up, but I'm afraid our future AI overlords will kill me if I do.

  • @GooseAlarm
    @GooseAlarm 6 місяців тому

    I just wanna know when we get access to the AGI versions. Let's say they have already created it in house, when do the normal people get our hands on the tech? How long?

  • @maharaja101
    @maharaja101 6 місяців тому +4

    The whole thing is spooky. They fired the golden child of AI pretty much overnight so it really makes you wonder what's going on in there behind the scenes.

  • @feefawfern8240
    @feefawfern8240 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for breaking down the news of the decade (at the moment).

  • @shaheershakir
    @shaheershakir 6 місяців тому +2

    15:31 Greg Brockman who is in this picture is not CTO, He is the president of OpenAI, Mira Murati is the CTO

  • @morezco
    @morezco 6 місяців тому

    Great analysis as always :)

  • @Hippida
    @Hippida 6 місяців тому

    Thanks for an easy to understand explanation of what happened at Open AI

  • @somedayitsgonnamakesense
    @somedayitsgonnamakesense 6 місяців тому +4

    breaking news: ChatGPT renames itself to UltronGPT

  • @tony.cortez
    @tony.cortez 6 місяців тому +10

    if you put the OpenAI's AI into a body that understands the hardware that it is into. It's just, ultron or vision, and can be both.

  • @stefan-bayer
    @stefan-bayer 6 місяців тому +1

    What has Garry Tan against the Boosted Board video? Does anyone have some background information?
    Thanks

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  6 місяців тому +1

      I believe YC invested in Boosted, but beyond that your guess is as good as ours.
      - Caya

    • @stefan-bayer
      @stefan-bayer 6 місяців тому +1

      @@slidebean Personally i found the video Boosted Board video interesting and well researched. Strange that they are offended by it.

  • @comunicacionsdrd8760
    @comunicacionsdrd8760 6 місяців тому

    earned a subscriber for such an amazing job!

  • @mohdjibly6184
    @mohdjibly6184 6 місяців тому

    Great video...thanks for sharing bro :)

  • @Jdecam
    @Jdecam 2 місяці тому

    That ending was awesome. Bon Appetite.

  • @RobinEHHoard
    @RobinEHHoard 6 місяців тому

    Good as always - to the point...

  • @DianeTellOfficiel
    @DianeTellOfficiel 6 місяців тому

    Great ! Well done. Thank you :-)

  • @lorenzoleongutierrez7927
    @lorenzoleongutierrez7927 6 місяців тому

    Great analysis!

  • @wiktorkokosik8747
    @wiktorkokosik8747 6 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for this video. :)

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for dropping a comment.
      - Caya

  • @jehanr
    @jehanr 6 місяців тому +1

    Greatest thumbnail ever 😊

  • @staminadaddy
    @staminadaddy 6 місяців тому

    Great video my Costa Rican friend, bless up from Jamaica.

  • @ehza
    @ehza 6 місяців тому +2

    One factual error in the presentation is that Greg Brockman is the president of OpenAI. Mira Murati is the CTO!

  • @TheTrueChaks
    @TheTrueChaks 6 місяців тому +1

    New board member will be GPT-5

  • @mathiasbusktjrnum8491
    @mathiasbusktjrnum8491 6 місяців тому

    Great vid!

  • @tmcr5656
    @tmcr5656 6 місяців тому +1

    Keep it up team Slidebean

  • @StEvUgnIn
    @StEvUgnIn 6 місяців тому

    ChatGPT feels like a quick and dirty MVP though.

  • @sumitpanwar9695
    @sumitpanwar9695 6 місяців тому +1

    i was waiting for this video

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  6 місяців тому +1

      What a sprint it was!
      - Caya

    • @sumitpanwar9695
      @sumitpanwar9695 6 місяців тому

      @@slidebean yeh it was, and behind the scenes Microsoft was like "everybody calm down" we need to fix that before market open on Monday

  • @europa_bambaataa
    @europa_bambaataa 6 місяців тому

    0:37 why do they do this camera angle? is is supposed to feel as awkward as it does?

  • @nameberry220
    @nameberry220 6 місяців тому +7

    You're naïve if you think these companies want regulation for the benefit of humanity. Just like OpenAI only pretends to be open, they over hype the dangers to their benefit, they want regulation to protect their profit and make it too expensive for others to collaborate and create successful businesses and open ai for humanity.

    • @DavidManouchehri
      @DavidManouchehri 6 місяців тому

      Peter Thiel has some good talks in the subject, would highly recommend listening to the lectures he’s given if you haven’t already.

  • @isaacbalintuma9157
    @isaacbalintuma9157 6 місяців тому

    Am in Uganda (Africa). I liked the video and am kinda making another algorithm happy

  • @tuams
    @tuams 6 місяців тому

    I'll see you guy next week.

  • @NickQuickX
    @NickQuickX 6 місяців тому +6

    Timestamps:
    02:40 OpenAI's Sam Altman saga has redefined the perception of AI and its impact on humanity.
    05:20 OpenAI was founded to make AI beneficial to humanity and keep it out of the hands of bad guys.
    08:00 OpenAI opened a for-profit company, causing concern about the company's mission
    10:40 OpenAI formed an independent board of directors to maintain the illusion of non-profit
    13:20 GPT-4 is a game-changing technology accessible to entrepreneurs everywhere.
    16:00 Sam Altman's firing from OpenAI raises concerns about the fast-paced development of AI technology.
    18:40 Firing Sam from OpenAI was idiotic and terribly handled.
    21:18 The new board has been appointed, and capitalism has taken over.

  • @yourofficialrealtor1057
    @yourofficialrealtor1057 6 місяців тому

    This is definitely a Succession episode

  • @Yulenka-
    @Yulenka- 6 місяців тому

    Whatever rank-and-file AI researchers want to do, that's where the industry will go. If they en masse are just marching forward and creating new models without worrying about safety or the "control problem", there's nothing the board or anyone else can do about it. The industry has spoken

  • @michaelduggan3
    @michaelduggan3 6 місяців тому +1

    great vid.

  • @AshAYP22
    @AshAYP22 6 місяців тому

    😮 great video

  • @soulingwithsound
    @soulingwithsound 6 місяців тому

    Great Video!!!!

  • @mayur_je
    @mayur_je 6 місяців тому

    Larry summers on board:-
    We all gonna d.....

  • @larrygrimaldi1400
    @larrygrimaldi1400 6 місяців тому +1

    Wonderful explanation1 Thank you so much! I had been very critical of the altruistic board of academics, so detached from the ways of the real world to behave as they did...on a Friday afternoon...when the market was still open. But now I appreciate that they were just acting on conscience.
    However the 'go-slow" camp makes the naïve mistake of assuming that America is the world. And can protect the world from this existential danger. That all the other countries with the money and the scientists are going to "go slow." if Open AI does, and Congress makes appropriate laws.
    Of course, there will be jobs lost, but it sounds like AI will turn millions of ordinary people into entrepreneurs--- Don't you think they will need an employee or two?

  • @romainrouiller4889
    @romainrouiller4889 6 місяців тому +1

    the Johnny Harris documentary style got popular;)

    • @atsoroka
      @atsoroka 6 місяців тому

      He is totally trying to replicate the way Johnny talks

  • @abielfletcher7662
    @abielfletcher7662 4 місяці тому

    Really great video

  • @joaofelipeamaralsantiago5490
    @joaofelipeamaralsantiago5490 6 місяців тому

    This ends words are in fact in some sense brutal to say, but defnattly is the truth

  • @Jan-nu6zc
    @Jan-nu6zc 6 місяців тому +8

    Saying smartest people alive and showing elmo musk is a bold move

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  6 місяців тому +3

      Small disclaimer if you watch carefully.

    • @Jan-nu6zc
      @Jan-nu6zc 6 місяців тому

      Did not see that on my phone@@slidebean

  • @michaelmoorrees3585
    @michaelmoorrees3585 6 місяців тому

    FYI, If its a patent, it is public. You can look up everything, that has a US Patent, at the Patent Office (USPTO), just by going to the government website. Those Patents are protected by law, for up to 20 years after issuing. Not to be confused with "trade secrets", which by being secret, are not patented, to keep them secret. Don't believe me. Just go to the Patent Office, and read it for yourself. Don't be lazy !

  • @anushagr14
    @anushagr14 6 місяців тому +1

    Hey caya I wanted ask if you are sole owner of your company or are there investors other than employees.
    I am worried if you get fired we would not be able to get these amazing videos😢.

    • @cayahere
      @cayahere 6 місяців тому

      Lol. Wouldn’t that be an irony?

  • @subatoistormborn5499
    @subatoistormborn5499 6 місяців тому

    Has human greed brought consequences, suffering and trouble before? (But people went ahead and did things anyway knowing possible consequences)
    Greed will be our literal undoing.

  • @electromigue
    @electromigue 6 місяців тому +34

    Sam and OpenAI like many other previous tech startups are extremely overvalued. Their product is not exponentially better than other models. All this discussion has been happening as if other models don't exist or if the other options are infinitely worse.

    • @David-ej1ps
      @David-ej1ps 6 місяців тому +14

      AI is the new buzzword for Silicone Valley and they milking it for all it’s worth

    • @ZM-dm3jg
      @ZM-dm3jg 6 місяців тому

      You're ignorant and uninformed.

    • @rishabhtyagi7369
      @rishabhtyagi7369 6 місяців тому +1

      Exactly. Yesterday I was using Calude Ai and it was much faster that chapGPT.

    • @willyli8304
      @willyli8304 6 місяців тому

      Can you give me a few exanples? Just want to learn here :) thx

    • @thomasthaler8568
      @thomasthaler8568 6 місяців тому +4

      Their product IS exponentially better than other models. Not just the models themselves, but everything surrounding it - Function calling, Code Interpreter, Retrieval, ...

  • @pablocarranza9356
    @pablocarranza9356 6 місяців тому

    Did you buy those Imperiales in the States?

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  6 місяців тому +1

      Nah. That was our Costa Rica office.
      A couple of places in Brooklyn do carry them, though.

  • @chika4275
    @chika4275 6 місяців тому

    I have been saying this all along this is the Terminator play out in front of our eyes! Miles Bennett Dyson is Sam Altman 100% all the way!

  • @Textras
    @Textras 6 місяців тому +1

    Ilya did not ruin his reputation

  • @Okeh_Emmanuel
    @Okeh_Emmanuel 6 місяців тому

    I am either watching your videos or Gary's. I do understand what you meant by your nemesis

  • @protecttomato5180
    @protecttomato5180 6 місяців тому

    Holywood writing sam altos life 👀👀👀

  • @dmbdwn
    @dmbdwn 6 місяців тому

    please do financial forensics for tencent ^^

  • @Dxeus
    @Dxeus 6 місяців тому +1

    AGI is ALREADY here. Ladies & gentlemen, brace for the impact. Q*(star) ... Boom! 😅☠👻💥

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  6 місяців тому +6

      Thought of mentioning it, but we still know too little about it.

  • @alexandrelores7584
    @alexandrelores7584 6 місяців тому

    This is wild

  • @ogollaogolla7
    @ogollaogolla7 6 місяців тому

    Please dont kill us when you take control

  • @lenowoo
    @lenowoo 6 місяців тому

    Now. . That the non profit board got kicked. . Be prepared for so many things to uncontrollable

  • @frostybeez
    @frostybeez 6 місяців тому

    That thumbnail tho 😂

  • @StephenDuncan
    @StephenDuncan 6 місяців тому

    Wrong analogy about the lumber company, it's more like they are wood furniture designers.

  • @UganWopla
    @UganWopla 6 місяців тому +6

    Just after introducing to your channel i used to watch every video uploaded. You guys put so much work into making these documentaries to make them colourful, cinematic and live. BUT it's just too much. Instead story should be made hero not the production design. That's why i quickly got bored and just stop watching. Now seeing your channel after so long it's still the same. I have come to appreciate my go to channels like coldfusion, cnbc even more. Their simplicity, less clutter and devotion to story writing just does the perfect job. I like your channel and thought i should give an honest feedback.

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  6 місяців тому +2

      This is great feedback. We’ve put some good thought into it.
      - Coldfusion and Company Man are probably the biggest channels in the ‘Forensics’ space.
      - If I had to describe them, I’d say: good research, soothing voice, (mostly) ‘filler’ b-Roll.
      - In our minds, these are channels you can ‘listen to’ or keep in the background while you do something else.
      We didn’t want that. We want to people to watch and give us their full attention; this is the reason why we keep looking for ways to inject ‘personality’ into the videos.
      I feel that approach is more differentiated, though I understand it’s not for everyone. I also fear a simple approach can be more easily replaced with AI generated content.

    • @UganWopla
      @UganWopla 6 місяців тому +2

      @@slidebean I totally get it and that's the reason why your videos stand out but i only said what i felt as viewer.

    • @JuanWayri
      @JuanWayri 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@slidebean I agree with pardeshi, production design can be good but NOT if it undermines the time/effort that could be better invested in refining the "story" you want to tell. Also, too much "bling bling" and "unnecessary animations" are counterproductive because the attention isn't directed to the relevant elements of the story.

    • @slidebean
      @slidebean  6 місяців тому

      @@JuanWayriappreciate the feedback too.
      I feel we just don’t want to compete on the ‘just B-Roll’ category of videos.

  • @mefisto05s.20
    @mefisto05s.20 6 місяців тому +2

    Sam is not a hero everyone thinks he is

  • @pattymack11
    @pattymack11 6 місяців тому

    This guy is good x

  • @tomonentrepreneurship
    @tomonentrepreneurship 6 місяців тому

    Very well done. Great job telling the story.

  • @Ihavetoreturnsomevideotapes
    @Ihavetoreturnsomevideotapes 6 місяців тому +6

    Sam is too powerful at this point.
    I repeat. Sam is too powerful at this point.

  • @jarrettporst4799
    @jarrettporst4799 6 місяців тому

    How hard would you giggle if we all found out that who ever fired Sam, got their instructions/advice from ChatGBT?

  • @seanpatrickperfecto7426
    @seanpatrickperfecto7426 6 місяців тому

    That amber heard clip really cleared things up for me.

  • @elson_correia
    @elson_correia 6 місяців тому

    I think the whole video is “explainer time”

  • @UsernameR8
    @UsernameR8 6 місяців тому +10

    Musk is furious because he missed an opportunity in ChatGPT not because he cares about open source or the environment

    • @LilGril10
      @LilGril10 6 місяців тому +2

      He might actually genuinely be concerned about humanity with regards to AI. Don't get me wrong, I hate Musk and the shitshow he made of twitter, but Musk has been consistent with his warnings regarding AI from the beginning. This might be a rare win for him.

  • @ivok9846
    @ivok9846 6 місяців тому

    13:47 "ai weapons"
    worse than hamas?

  • @daneilpatro2776
    @daneilpatro2776 6 місяців тому

    is ai moving too fast.
    have you ever considered - is it moving slow? it need sto free the centralized dataweights .

  • @desi1161
    @desi1161 5 місяців тому

    Great :)

  • @janlester
    @janlester 6 місяців тому

    actually more worried if it's open sourced

  • @shinaayomibamgboye1887
    @shinaayomibamgboye1887 6 місяців тому

    I just had to find you guy

  • @gustavolsson5787
    @gustavolsson5787 6 місяців тому

    Everyone is first and foremost in the money making business

  • @chudchadanstud
    @chudchadanstud 6 місяців тому

    In the end the became what they wanted to prevent

  • @MateusChristopher
    @MateusChristopher 6 місяців тому

    Did he say officiate his wedding....at the openAI office!? Guys, work-life balance. C'mon

  • @segante
    @segante 5 місяців тому

    Satta Mandella s in cheraga

  • @afrosymphony8207
    @afrosymphony8207 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video but mahn the whole doom and gloom ai will kill us bit is probably the most exagerrating and infuriating thing these days. its a fucking new powerful technology, the only way to really get a handle on the safety is to let everyone explore all its capailities then we can comeup with best practices that ensures maximum safety. its messy but its the best tried and true way to do it since its not a tech that only a group of ppl are capable of wielding.

  • @foraminutethere23
    @foraminutethere23 6 місяців тому +1

    Good explanation. Was a tad long for the content subject though