The whole fiasco on this water issue is actually one man grudges against the other. Bluntly it is Mahathir against LKY where the former cannot swallow the fact that Singapore with no or little natural resources has grown so well under LKY rules while Malaysia with vast natural resources deteriorates under Mahathir. This make Mahathir angry and took personal grudges whenever Singapore comes into the picture.
Nonsense, there no where on earth that a thousand gallon of water cost 3 Malaysian sen. How much does Singapore gain by selling water to its citizens? After the water agreement ends, don't expect Malaysia to renew it at a cheap price ever again.
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Lol Its 3 cent for 1,000 gallons We bought it back treated at 50 cents for 1,000 gallons Which means we paid for our own water 47 cents for 1,000 gallons to get it treated
Singapore is a secular state that's not afraid to put religious organisations in their rightful place. Malaysia is a Muslim state which is always looking over its shoulders to see what the Muslims say about its policies. THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE.
Very well done video. The pace of your speech is just nice and easy to understand. Our schools do arrange educational visits to the NEWater factories to let us understand the process, and through education, we learn about the history and how Singapore had improved all these years into making an alternative way for water instead of just sitting there until 2061.
Singapore and Johor are so close physically and so do its people. Every day hundreds of thousands people travell across the board. Its onlt the Politicians that like to separate the people across the strait.
many years ago mahathir mocked at us that we Singaporean are drinking pee water ,neglecting the fact that a portion of the johore population also use water from the same tap , cheers and yum seng !!!
Ok so only Johor Bahru people drinks pee water. And they are not a portion of the Johore Population? You mean you don't recognise them as Malaysians? Wow!
Glad this video sets things right. Malaysians always thinking of cutting off water supply to SG etc but they never see the overall picture that they are benefiting from the arrangement too. Short sighted & unreliable.
Only politicians are shortsighted. Most malaysians dont care on this issue. In fact on the ground level..Malaysian army are safeguarding PUB facilities in Johore. So Singaporeans should just chill and relax. The water will keep coming and no politicians or Malaysian leaders in the right mind will deprive Singapore of water supply..certainly not anyone from Johore.
@@detox78 It's great to hear a logical reply. We are permanent neighbors, whether we like it or not. That's why it's so important to treat each other respectfully, regardless of differences. Prosper thy neighbor has always been SG's philosophy as we believe that a prosperous region will be beneficial to SG too. It's sad to hear some Malaysian politicians or commentators always talking about superseding or overcoming SG; it's just so unproductive. We can always look for a win-win outcome instead of win-lose outcome. This way everybody benefits from the growth.
But is it really the politicians though? I often see ordinary Malaysians often threatening to cut off the water supply to Singapore whenever there is an issue that makes them angry, like the Joycelyn Chia stand up "comedian" incident. (btw, she is not Singaporean, is not born here and Singaporeans I know all hate her and do not agree with her for making the MH370 joke). @@detox78
To be exact, it is Johor relies on SG for water. Not sure is due to this, I observed that Johor water is better quality and more reliable than Selangor state. I may be wrong.
Because Singapore does the water treatment for Johor, hence their water quality is way above the other states. The treated water is piped back to Johor consumers, billed by Johor Govt.
At what point you measure the quality of both Johor and Selangor water? How do you define the quality you mentioned? Reliable yes due to Selangor less pro active with its anti pollution measures. But for quality i wonder where does it come…perhaps bias?
I mean,you could just look at it... As a johorian,I've only seen that kind of Kelantan brown water like once or twice,and it's because a pipe broke...
How the tides have turned. Singapore is using intellectuals to solve the water problem, while Malaysia is depending on its vast landmass and natural resources.
Malaysia's intellectuals are mostly of low kwality lah. When their universities can churn out hundreds of PhDs every year, one must suspect their overall calibre is mediocre or downright subpar. 😏
The two water agreements of 1961 (valid for 50 years), and 1962 (valid for 99 years) allowed Singapore to draw raw water from the the Skudai-Tebrau river (?), 100 mgd, and the Johor River 250 mgd. The Skudai-Tebrau agreement expired in 2011, and the Singapore-run (PUB-run) facilities on that river were returned (or handed over) to the Johor govt (BAKAJ?). So until 2011, Singapore was drawing up to 350 million gallons of (raw) water a day (MGD) from these two sources. After the Skudai-Tebrau 1961 agreement expired, Singapore was left only with the 1962 (99 yr) agreement covering the Johor River, and was drawing 250 mgd of raw water. The Johor River agreement also provided for Singapore to provide up to 2% of treated water from the raw water drawn. So for 250 mgd drawn, SG was to provide 5 mgd of treated water. HOWEVER, after the Skudai-Tebrau water agreement ended (which, IIRC, required Singapore to provide 10 - 12 mgd (?) of treated water, for a total of 17 mgd (IIRC) - 12 from Tebrau, 5 from Johor), Johor (or BAKAJ) requested that SG continued to provide 16 mgd of treated water, exceeding the 5 mgd provided for by the agreement. THEN, during conditions of drought or other contingencies, Johor would request for additional treated water... of up to 5 mgd. So the treated water provided is 16+5 = 21 mgd. What I am not too clear about or was under the impression (rightly or wrongly), is the the Skudai-Tebrau facility is actually able to treat the raw water on site (that is, in Johor, at Skudai/Tebrau PUB facility). I may be wrong. In any case, when SG handed over the Skudai/Tebrau facilities, what happened to it? Why can't Johor (BAKAJ) draw water from Skudai-Tebrau, for treated water for their needs? One possible answer is, pollution. My "research" suggests that the Tebrau river/valley has been industrialised and factory run-offs into the river has made the water unviable for treatment and human consumption. On re-looking at the question of the Skudai-Tebrau facilities, I now have doubts as to whether the SG-PUB facilities onsite was anything more than a water flow and monitoring station. There is no reason why SG would treat the water onsite.
All excellent points and almost on point calculations. Only flaw is that the upper bound for treated water supplied by Singapore is unknown. Singapore Ministry of Foreign Affairs only says that Malaysia draws more than 3X more than what they are entitled to under the agreement, but how many times is unknown (5X - 7X?).
@@strategicstudies1835 claimed " that the upper bound for treated water supplied by Singapore is unknown." Such certainty of Ignorance. The agreement is for 2% of raw water drawn. The 1962 agreement also sets the upper limit of raw water drawn at 250 mgd. 2% of that is 5 mgd. The 1961 (50 year) agreement that expired in 2011 allowed for 12% of the raw water drawn from Skudai-Tebrau. That agreement allowed SG to draw 100 mgd. 12% of 100 is 12 mgd of treated water. So up to 2011, SG supplied MY with 12+5 = 17 mgd. AFTER 2011, when the 1961 agreement expired, SG was only obliged to supply 5 mgd. However, Johor (or BAKAJ) was by then used to getting 17 mgd of treated water at 50 sen per 1000 gallons. So they asked SG to continue to supply 16 mgd (down from 17 mgd, cos one of the agreement expired). SG obliged. On a goodwill basis (i.e. not covered in the agreement). Singapore supplies 16 mgd at the request of Johor. (from this news report: heresthenews.blogspot.com/2019/01/singapore-supplies-additional-treated.html ). Hence the "more than 3 times" figure. And from time to time, Johor requests for the supply to be temporarily raised by 5 or 6 mgd. This is NOT without cost. All the treated water supplied is at the rate of 50 sen per 1000 gallons. So 1 million gallons is MYR500. 16 mgd is MYR8000. A bargain, but not free. So there are three factors limiting the upper bounds of treated water supplied by SG to Johor. One is the cost of the supplied water. Already, Johor is paying SG $8000 (MYR) PER DAY. If SG supplies MORE, it would cost Johor more. The second limit is the raw water SG is getting from the Johor River. If we are drawing 250 mgd (raw water), we CANNOT provide MORE than 250 mgd of treated water to Johor. (Which would cost Johor $125,000 MYR per day). The third limit is how much water does Johoreans need? Yes, 50 sen per 1000 gallons is a bargain, but only if you can then sell the treated water to thirsty Johoreans at a significant mark up. Claiming that we do not know the upper limit of SG supplying treated water to MY is to assume that we would GIVE treated water away, or that we do not ACCOUNT for every drop of water we provide. Of course if you MEAN that YOU do not know what the upper bounds of what Singapore provides Malaysia... well... your ignorance and inability to overcome your ignorance is... not our problem.
During those period, Singapore spend quite a lot to ensure the river and all water catchment are well maintained to hold water and prevent pollution . These are not very well documented.
@@weideliu2878 I suspect one reason why the 1961 agreement was not renewed was because Johor wanted to industrialise the Tebrau Valley (or whatever it is called), but if Singapore was still drawing water from Skudai-Tebrau, we would raise objections and draw attention to the proposal that would pollute the river. So they made it almost impossible to renew that agreement, and when that agreement lapsed, they were free to proceed to put factories there. But of course, I could be crediting the Malaysians with more forward planning than they are capable of, and it was more like, after the agreement lapsed, they realised, "Hey, we can put factories here now!"...
The real story behind is pretty sinister and I could not disclose it publicly. It left readers wondering why malaysia would not treat its own water and why singapore would not build its own water catchment.
Also China have Central Asia countries with many resources besides oil, also Russia has a pipe oil to China , besides the Arctic is open , Russia is also active there. So that Kru project it too costly and not much savings for users. But still it’s cheaper to bribe the politicians than physically the project. The only person that can fully pay for the project, is the highest person in the land with his wealth. The south have always been headache for The Central government, every few decades there is a revolution,due to unequal developments and traditionally it was independent Malay Islam states but though war that became vassal of siam. There is nothing permanent , with the call of a holy war.
Don’t underestimate the citizens of Singapore for clear drinking water we are willing to pay the price and work harder. We may complain but we know what we must do.
I've been in Johor & JB for the 50 yrs. See for urself how the usage of treated water (fit for drinking). When I'm in S'pore, I notice how water are treated so precious everytime they turn on the tap.
Singapore is not stingy we are willing to sell treated water to Malaysia as long as the price is right. There is a saying in mandarin “There is no forever enemy just forever beneficial relationship.”
They should play this video in Malaysia as part of national educations. Abit tired of seeing Malaysians shouting cut off water cut off water like an ignorant child.
Sure but don't expect Singapore to prosper anymore after it starts a war with Malaysia because the Malaysian army will ensure that Singapore's key infrastructure gets sabotage and investors will lose confidence to invest in Singapore!
@@salplayer9198quote "If Malaysia cuts water supply" unquote You see the cause and effect there? Or are you just reading half the sentence. Who is the one threatening?
FROM THIRD WORLD TO FIRST-- THE SINGAPORE STORY:1965-2000 page 276-- Singapore's Quest for Water Self-Reliance He [Mahathir] was direct and asked what we were building the SAF [Singapore Armed Forces] for. I (Lee Kuan Yew)replied equally directly that we feared that at some time or other there could be a random act of madness like cutting off our water supplied which they [the Malaysians] had publicly threatened whenever there were differences between us … In [the Separation] agreement, the Malaysian government had guaranteed our water supply. IF this was breached,we would go to the UN Security Council. If water shortage became urgent, in an emergency,we would have to go in, forcibly if need be, to repair damaged pipes and machinery to restore the water flow. I was putting my cards on the table. He denied that such precipitate action would happen. I said I believe that he would not do this, but we had to be prepared for all contingencies.” -Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore Prime Minister
Water will be a strategic resource in the future. A good example is the Mekong river which is often obstructed by the China dams. How many countries will eventually go to war to break the dam? Singapore may be small but it has unlocked the skills to be water self sufficient. Indonesia is another good example of what happened when the natural underground water resources are abused till the land sunk and has to move the capital out!
Singapore is not water sufficient. Around 50% of the water that Singapore uses currently comes from Malaysia and this has not factor in the population growth in the coming years due to neutralization of immigrants and/or higher birth rates and foreign workers. It is also very likely that future water supply from other countries (if any) will cost a lot more as the prices will be adjusted after inflation and may require new infrastructures to support the population growth
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Singapore is already water sufficient with the current Desalination, NEWater plants and local catchment. However, we always insisted the need for imported water from Malaysia as it is politically savvy to maintain this relationship and agreement. This agreement ties us economically to Malaysia and these ties are the backstops against any future hostile actions.
@@sgtjyf01Oh really? Then I'm sure you can provide the data to support you claim? 1.How much water does Singapore use per day in comparison to its imports from Malaysia? 2. Desalination is an energy intensive water source. How much does it cost to convert a thousand gallons of sea water to drinking water? 3. How much will the consumers have to pay for the cost of desalination once the water agreement with Malaysia has expired?
Mahathir is fully aware of the situation but constantly spreading nonsense in Malaysia because there is still a large number of people who are gullible and easily manipulated. Fortunately there are still a lot of sensible folks in both countries who are educated enough to see his BS.
Singaporeans may grumble about their government. But one thing is for sure, Singaporeans sure are fortunate to have had the leaders that led them to this, till they are able to be water sufficient. Look at the condition in Malaysia in states like Kelantan, and you will know how fortunate Singaporeans are.
Looking at the map could Pulau Ubin areas be block up and convert it into a very large fresh water reservoir just like the Marina Barrage. If possible, Singapore in future will have no need to depend on Malaysia for water supply. Looking further ahead, the ‘reservoir’ if not needed, could be reclaimed for land use. p.s. New water & desalination of sea water is not the stable and complete permanent solution.
Singapore is already moving towards not depending on Malaysia at all. We are building more desalination plants and investing in a lot of infrastructure. Way before 2061, there is no longer any need to import water from Malaysia.
@@Wolyzz-bk7qs Do you know where singapore got their energy? Malaysia lol. Let just face it, SG cannot be self sustainable without Malaysia. They need energy, water, food and millions other things to keep the state going. Even if SG have money, there's no use if they can't use it.
Long ago the british built a reservoir in johor , and that provides raw water, not processed water for consumption. The processing plant is in singapore, so singapore sells treated water back to johor. This is a fact. The title of the vlog sounds mischievous a bit. It doesn't mean johor cannot take raw water(in johor) and treat it. Probably building a plant is too costly.
Problem will be when the treaty end in 2061. While Singapore will become self sufficient, what if Johor requires help since there will no longer be any agreement? I am sure Singapore will help due to the close cooperation between the 2 states.
@@shamshulanuar7718the problem with Malaysia's planning is it doesn't always goes according to plan. I'm still waiting for their VEP system after various revisions over the last decade
Did you comment without watching the video? Malaysia still buys treated water from Singapore and at times even asks for extras during dry weather. @@shamshulanuar7718
@@shamshulanuar7718 Malaysia doesn’t have planning for infrastructures, but making money out of infrastructures by the people up there. Corruption only. The ones paying for the bill are the Malaysians anyway. With declining RM, infrastructure costs will be highly inflated, soon there will be a bottleneck as in whether building infrastructures will be financed by budget, or taking on even more debts to finance. This would swing RM to new lows. In a decade or so, we could see RM 5: SGD 1
The amount of water demand decreases bc Sinagapore is recycling you waste water with your high tech process...bottomline: sewage water from Singapore residences...correct??
No Singapore recycle just a small part of sewage and it’s mostly sold to Malaysia as clean water. The amount taken from Malaysia is decreasing because we desalinate sea water
Sorry we Singaporeans know that but can't be bothered to argue back that typical "singapore depend on us malaysia for water you know?!" joke. It kindas make me chuckle harder hearing that. If something ain't spoilt,dont fix it! LOL!
@@mingtsongkoh2739 @schadenfreude6247 he's right, we should include not just chinese but also malay and tamil subtitles if its for the older generations.
When additional water is requested by Malaysia, like in 2015 and 2016 etc when they are having drought, treated water from Singapore mainland is also drawn.@@qwertypoet2386
Instead of accusing others of being nonsensical, how about you produce your own facts with the documents/statements from your government? The video has given screenshots and even links to the statements made by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Where are your sources?
As the citizen of ASEAN, we shouldnt care who relies on whom. We should instead start building our own inventions to stop relying on products coming from outside of ASEAN. Aren't we all relying on Taiwan's microchips and EU's electrical components way too much? Cant we build them on our own? That's the real issue to be asking ourselves. Microchips and devices. Not water. Some say Malaysia cant even produce chickens on surplus without relying on Ukrainian wheat as chicken feeds, let alone microchips. We must change that as a region. To be the world's largest exporters as a region.
6:30 not true..water disruptions are fewer nowadays and most are due to schedule maintenance anyway..and u left out d most important part of this issue which is singapore buys water at 1 sen per 4500L
How many times does water disruption happen in Singapore and JB compared to Selangor? How many places in Selangor still get brown water flowing through their taps?
@@strategicstudies1835 kelantab is well deserved and may even be intentional as ppl there are idiots voted for taliban minded opposition..selangor hv water problem? U cant even differentiate btwn scheduled maintenance and water shortage right idiot?
To sign contrak with Malaysia, now people scared, so quickly register the document with UN World Court. Which company investor in the world dare to invest here. Cilakak la.
their 臭名声 is well known. even LKY back then already know their ba wu (odour) and quickly lodge the agreement with the United Nations. fast forward to 2022, look at how they U turn on the HSR. lucky our govt know their pattern and have penalty written in the contract.
Singapore sells raw water to Malaysia for expensive cost and resells in Singapore at a cheap price. $1 gets 4 bottles of 1.5 litre peak business IQ from the Malaysia government
Excuse me. The raw water Malaysia supplied is undrinkable. It needs to be treated for it to be consumed. So don’t always say 3 Sen is too little. If Singapore do not buy it, it will just flow off somewhere.
Singapore imports its eggs and chicken from many other countries besides Malaysia. It used to be only Malaysia, but since Malaysia played punk, we have imported it from Indonesia, Thailand, Australia etc. Now you know why the Malaysian ringgit stinks because the Malaysians keep sabotaging their own economy.
Malaysians do not seem to be very bright do they? Since they curtailed eggs and chicken exports to Singapore, Singapore has diversified its sources and now imports eggs and chicken from Indonesia, Australia, Europe etc. In the end the losers are Malaysian farmers themselves. @user-dl3vo1yw9r
Actually since the chicken supply was cut, Singapore sourced from many countries and now the dependence on Malaysia for fresh chicken and eggs are a lot less. It will never be the case of no eggs or fresh chicken because of trade with many countries such products are not difficult to come by. Unless of course, there are major emergencies or war, then the supply will be restricted.
Both countries are losers in the end. Singapore has to pay more for Newater, and Malaysia loses a source of easy money. When everyone discusses water price, there is something both countries do not want to reveal for some strange reasons. Singapore has been paying Malaysia land lease for opportunity cost of not developing the water catchment area, which Malaysia has no need to develop anyway. It's free money for Malaysia. Another fact that nobody mentions is Singapore has been effectively paying less and less to Malaysia due to Ringgit weakness.
Paying less and less?! Stupid Malaysian government can't manage their economy well. Malaysians will become poorer while other countries become richer. The Islamic religion is impeding their ability to make proper economic and political policies.
I'm glad Dr Mahathir is still alive and kicking. Perhaps it would have been better, if he had a chance to negotiate Johor water supply. too bad, he was kicked out of the government.
I am glad that old man was kicked out of politic - trouble maker. The politicians in m'sia think they can revoke contract or agreement as & when they wish. No brainer!
Ya I also . He good at playing politics and dividing malaysia racially, look at how unfairly east malaysia was developed? After 60 years of UMMO rule still need Special Economic Plan and racial ratio policies to elevate the competitiveness of bumis? Just like some African Americans telling the schools to lower the standards so as to compete with others . Don’t forget everyone is against the world, not a kampong. So I do welcome mathair back. He out of touch .
@@shaunsim3188don't forget Chinese and Indians too will drop dead without vernacular schools. As for the zmslays , they are heavily discriminated in private sectors. Just like when your Pm said that Mslays in Singapore acmt be placed into key SAF as their loyalty would be in question during war( meaning war against Malaysia)
Sold back at 50 sen per thousand gallons . Processing cost is RM2.40 per 1000 gallon . So there is a subsidy amounting to RM 30,400 per day or RM 11 million per year . But that is the price of ensuring secure water supply for now Johor sells the water at above RM 4.00 (? Can be verified easily) to it’s people . Singapore aims to be self sufficient in water before the treaty lapses in 2061 . By building more barrages in Singapore , RO and desalination plants even as Johor draws more treated water from Singapore above the amount stipulated in the treaties . But good neighbours should help each other in it’s water needs .
I'm not sure if 'relies' is the apt term to use here... perhaps it is just out-sourcing, based on their own present cost-benefit analysis... somehow I feel sure Malaysia (Johor) can galvanize their resources and technical capabilities to treat water, just that they do not see the need to prioritize it yet...
singaporeans are generally humble. we only act yaya when we're being pushed. are u singaporean? if yes, u want to be pushed ar? when malaysia threatened to cut water supply, do u seriously think the malaysians regard us singaporeans as human?
They even didn't foresee today Sin$ values in the 70s, and the very must planning ahead Long term Water Resources. Covid19 has given the best stress test for Sg. Gov, the shut of crossway.
@@franciswoon2130 exactly. And on our part, we have always said that they are welcomed to revise the price for raw water but we also reserve to revise the price of treated water supplied to Malaysia.
Indonesia need to stop allowing foreign plantation company to start plantation business in Indonesia. Not only that raw material such as oil, gases, sand and cement material should be banned to be shiped to neighboring countries and there should be check points on Indonesian water in Natuna island. Indonesia need to tax those ships before entering Malacca strait. Not only that. Indonesia should start massive Investment in Natuna and Batam Island. World class hotel,bank, company, school and university should be build in Batam and Natuna. It also should be supported with world class transfortation such as subway,LRT/MRT and world class airport
纸上谈兵是最简单的。你能想到，印尼政府会想不到？please la.. indonesia gotten independence from the dutch for how many years already? with such vast land, large and young population, huge natural resources, indonesia would have attain/did what u said long ago already!
tech can be bought or thru xfer. malaysia can have the tech too. but sgp cannot make resources from air. so technically nmalaysia can be as good or even better than sgp. the root cause is user problem.
SG for sure, if merge into MY, SG national treasury would end up having to pay and finance the huge debts MY incurred. If Johor got absorbed into SG, SG can clear Johor debts in a heartbeat and Johor be debt free, and Johor folks instantly becomes 3-4 times richer due to change of currency and assets valuation in SGD terms. Maybe half will be millionaires in SGD terms overnight.
no. first putrajaya will never let johor go. and i think the constitution of malaysia doesnt allow that to happen. second, why would singapore make putrajaya mad by merging with johor? one is a republic one is monarchy. one is secular, the other is islamic. impossible.
Someone comment about Malaysia education being backward. Hello! Do you know Malaysia ? Let's take a look at the presence of international universities in Malaysia. There are currently 5 British universities campuses in Malaysia, 3 Australian universities, 3 Chinese universities, and around 5 Singaporean universities and colleges in Malaysia.....
Malaysia's education is not backward. It is just that majority of the education system is conducted in bahasa melayu and as it is not a language that is used worldwide, it can be disadvantages for those who are looking for employment in the english speaking world. Perhaps that is why someone commented that Malaysia education is backward. Just my observation.
This comment is self-pawn lol. Having international universities in Malaysia is not something to be proud of, it's more shameful. It means that there is a large number of Malaysians who want to get into university but cannot to. And we know why. Chinese and Indian students there who score straight As will lose out to Malays in terms of admission because of BUMIPUTRA tongkat policy. This is why foreign universities come in to meet the demand - shameful don't you think?
@@jer2911.L it's to be expected isn't it? All country always focus on their native language in the education system didn't matter which level. Only certain countries would use foreign language as primary language in education. But that doesn't mean the country that focusing on native language doesn't teach foreign language in higher education system but it's depending on student to learn it and what course they take
@@nicky9117 There's nothing wrong with using and promoting bahasa melayu. I am just pointing out that it is a big disadvantage due to the fact that bahasa melayu is not used universally and it could be disadvantages for commercial and job opportunities. But if you are happy using bahasa melayu, please continue.
Your fictional world is your reality then. Malaysia is not just the city of Johor Bahru. Singapore definitely doesn't treat all of Malaysia's water, not even all of the state of Johor.
Singapore is given to the chinese by malay inteligent.cause they know chinese is hard working and good in bissness.and has no boundary in bissness.malaysia just sit back and relax.taste the fruit singaporean plant.
Singapore is not given to the Chinese but it was ruled by the British which opened doors to many immigrants especially from China who came for business and settled down. Thus the Chinese population grew and it happened that LKY and his multi-racial party won the election to govern Singapore after the British ruled.
@@qwertypoet2386 lol multiracial is just a fake thing la. u songapore actualyy a chines emajority with special rights compare to others. but your lky cover it with delusional "multiracial" 🤣
Mahathir now has one eye on Anwar Ibrahim. Daim Zainuddin, Mahathir's former two time finance minister, is now being investigated by the Malaysian anti graft body. Mahathir is shivering in his spine.
So Johor is not part of Malaysia? Like that I can also say, only Woodlands depends on water from Johor. The rest of Singapore takes water from other reservoirs. "Come on dude, not Singapore but Woodlands only"
@@strategicstudies1835it's only johor that depending on Singapore for processing but the water supply still in johor so in other words it's both that depending on each other not Malaysia as a whole since the other states is self-depending on water supplies
Johor not part of Malaysia? So I can also say that only Woodlands take water from Malaysia, not Singapore as the rest of Singapore take water from our reservoir?@@fakhrianuar
The joke is that Malaysians think "Singaporeans tend to think they are superior" but it is the other way around because Malaysians like to threaten Singaporeans with "cut the water supply". Due to these threats Singapore is preparing for self reliance on water and probably after 2061 Malaysia will buy or rely more water from Singapore.
The whole fiasco on this water issue is actually one man grudges against the other. Bluntly it is Mahathir against LKY where the former cannot swallow the fact that Singapore with no or little natural resources has grown so well under LKY rules while Malaysia with vast natural resources deteriorates under Mahathir. This make Mahathir angry and took personal grudges whenever Singapore comes into the picture.
Singapore had Zionist to propell the progress of Singapore and also a lot of imported brains and not about local population. .
@@2cjappyWith racist people like your kind will always be left behind.
I blame Tunku for letting go of Singapore
Nonsense, there no where on earth that a thousand gallon of water cost 3 Malaysian sen. How much does Singapore gain by selling water to its citizens? After the water agreement ends, don't expect Malaysia to renew it at a cheap price ever again.
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko
Lol
Its 3 cent for 1,000 gallons
We bought it back treated at 50 cents for 1,000 gallons
Which means we paid for our own water 47 cents for 1,000 gallons to get it treated
Singapore is a secular state that's not afraid to put religious organisations in their rightful place. Malaysia is a Muslim state which is always looking over its shoulders to see what the Muslims say about its policies.
THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE.
*Water & Politic,* Thank you for giving Singapore credits where credit is due. Keep em' coming! ❤
Very well done video. The pace of your speech is just nice and easy to understand. Our schools do arrange educational visits to the NEWater factories to let us understand the process, and through education, we learn about the history and how Singapore had improved all these years into making an alternative way for water instead of just sitting there until 2061.
Glad it was helpful! And thank you for the kinds words!
Set it to 1.5 speed and its much better. The normal speed sounds like he's having a stroke. :)
Singapore and Johor are so close physically and so do its people. Every day hundreds of thousands people travell across the board.
Its onlt the Politicians that like to separate the people across the strait.
True... stay humble to each others. We know each other so well that we have relative over each others side. Cheers ya
Forget it what relative! Even Relative themselves also quarrel for their own country, talking about peace LOL
@deschai7071 LOL...not all like yours perhaps. Chill
many years ago mahathir mocked at us that we Singaporean are drinking pee water ,neglecting the fact that a portion of the johore population also use water from the same tap , cheers and yum seng !!!
you think Johor is small like Singapore, dude the water shortage only around Johor baharu,
Ok so only Johor Bahru people drinks pee water. And they are not a portion of the Johore Population? You mean you don't recognise them as Malaysians? Wow!
@@lalaiex2285 Country is so big can't even provide and supply water to its own Johor Bahru? Pathetic f*cking Lazy Bumis. :)
@@lalaiex2285 oh if Johor is so big, then why don't they get their own treated water from elsewhere rather than Singapore?
@@lalaiex2285your attempt at mockery brings up a good question. You are not wrong. So why does Johor still source its water from Singapore?
Glad this video sets things right. Malaysians always thinking of cutting off water supply to SG etc but they never see the overall picture that they are benefiting from the arrangement too. Short sighted & unreliable.
Only politicians are shortsighted. Most malaysians dont care on this issue. In fact on the ground level..Malaysian army are safeguarding PUB facilities in Johore. So Singaporeans should just chill and relax. The water will keep coming and no politicians or Malaysian leaders in the right mind will deprive Singapore of water supply..certainly not anyone from Johore.
@@detox78 It's great to hear a logical reply. We are permanent neighbors, whether we like it or not. That's why it's so important to treat each other respectfully, regardless of differences. Prosper thy neighbor has always been SG's philosophy as we believe that a prosperous region will be beneficial to SG too. It's sad to hear some Malaysian politicians or commentators always talking about superseding or overcoming SG; it's just so unproductive. We can always look for a win-win outcome instead of win-lose outcome. This way everybody benefits from the growth.
But is it really the politicians though? I often see ordinary Malaysians often threatening to cut off the water supply to Singapore whenever there is an issue that makes them angry, like the Joycelyn Chia stand up "comedian" incident. (btw, she is not Singaporean, is not born here and Singaporeans I know all hate her and do not agree with her for making the MH370 joke). @@detox78
@@strategicstudies1835I agree, I see many such comments about cutting water supply off in videos. So much hate around lately 😵💫
dont worry in future when the agreement expires u singapore will have nothing. instead u will pay rent to malysia for cleaning water 😂
To be exact, it is Johor relies on SG for water. Not sure is due to this, I observed that Johor water is better quality and more reliable than Selangor state. I may be wrong.
Because Singapore does the water treatment for Johor, hence their water quality is way above the other states. The treated water is piped back to Johor consumers, billed by Johor Govt.
At what point you measure the quality of both Johor and Selangor water?
How do you define the quality you mentioned?
Reliable yes due to Selangor less pro active with its anti pollution measures.
But for quality i wonder where does it come…perhaps bias?
I mean,you could just look at it... As a johorian,I've only seen that kind of Kelantan brown water like once or twice,and it's because a pipe broke...
Thanks for making this video to clear the air on the water dispute between the two countries. Good Job👍👏💦
@@markoh5028 thank you for watching and truly appreciate your kind words! ❤️
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How the tides have turned. Singapore is using intellectuals to solve the water problem, while Malaysia is depending on its vast landmass and natural resources.
With climate change many of their will dry out causing water shortage. How ready are they?
Malaysia's intellectuals are mostly of low kwality lah. When their universities can churn out hundreds of PhDs every year, one must suspect their overall calibre is mediocre or downright subpar. 😏
The two water agreements of 1961 (valid for 50 years), and 1962 (valid for 99 years) allowed Singapore to draw raw water from the the Skudai-Tebrau river (?), 100 mgd, and the Johor River 250 mgd. The Skudai-Tebrau agreement expired in 2011, and the Singapore-run (PUB-run) facilities on that river were returned (or handed over) to the Johor govt (BAKAJ?). So until 2011, Singapore was drawing up to 350 million gallons of (raw) water a day (MGD) from these two sources. After the Skudai-Tebrau 1961 agreement expired, Singapore was left only with the 1962 (99 yr) agreement covering the Johor River, and was drawing 250 mgd of raw water. The Johor River agreement also provided for Singapore to provide up to 2% of treated water from the raw water drawn. So for 250 mgd drawn, SG was to provide 5 mgd of treated water. HOWEVER, after the Skudai-Tebrau water agreement ended (which, IIRC, required Singapore to provide 10 - 12 mgd (?) of treated water, for a total of 17 mgd (IIRC) - 12 from Tebrau, 5 from Johor), Johor (or BAKAJ) requested that SG continued to provide 16 mgd of treated water, exceeding the 5 mgd provided for by the agreement.
THEN, during conditions of drought or other contingencies, Johor would request for additional treated water... of up to 5 mgd. So the treated water provided is 16+5 = 21 mgd.
What I am not too clear about or was under the impression (rightly or wrongly), is the the Skudai-Tebrau facility is actually able to treat the raw water on site (that is, in Johor, at Skudai/Tebrau PUB facility). I may be wrong. In any case, when SG handed over the Skudai/Tebrau facilities, what happened to it? Why can't Johor (BAKAJ) draw water from Skudai-Tebrau, for treated water for their needs?
One possible answer is, pollution. My "research" suggests that the Tebrau river/valley has been industrialised and factory run-offs into the river has made the water unviable for treatment and human consumption.
On re-looking at the question of the Skudai-Tebrau facilities, I now have doubts as to whether the SG-PUB facilities onsite was anything more than a water flow and monitoring station. There is no reason why SG would treat the water onsite.
All excellent points and almost on point calculations. Only flaw is that the upper bound for treated water supplied by Singapore is unknown. Singapore Ministry of Foreign Affairs only says that Malaysia draws more than 3X more than what they are entitled to under the agreement, but how many times is unknown (5X - 7X?).
@@strategicstudies1835 claimed " that the upper bound for treated water supplied by Singapore is unknown." Such certainty of Ignorance. The agreement is for 2% of raw water drawn. The 1962 agreement also sets the upper limit of raw water drawn at 250 mgd. 2% of that is 5 mgd. The 1961 (50 year) agreement that expired in 2011 allowed for 12% of the raw water drawn from Skudai-Tebrau. That agreement allowed SG to draw 100 mgd. 12% of 100 is 12 mgd of treated water. So up to 2011, SG supplied MY with 12+5 = 17 mgd.
AFTER 2011, when the 1961 agreement expired, SG was only obliged to supply 5 mgd. However, Johor (or BAKAJ) was by then used to getting 17 mgd of treated water at 50 sen per 1000 gallons. So they asked SG to continue to supply 16 mgd (down from 17 mgd, cos one of the agreement expired). SG obliged. On a goodwill basis (i.e. not covered in the agreement).
Singapore supplies 16 mgd at the request of Johor. (from this news report: heresthenews.blogspot.com/2019/01/singapore-supplies-additional-treated.html ). Hence the "more than 3 times" figure.
And from time to time, Johor requests for the supply to be temporarily raised by 5 or 6 mgd. This is NOT without cost. All the treated water supplied is at the rate of 50 sen per 1000 gallons. So 1 million gallons is MYR500. 16 mgd is MYR8000. A bargain, but not free.
So there are three factors limiting the upper bounds of treated water supplied by SG to Johor. One is the cost of the supplied water. Already, Johor is paying SG $8000 (MYR) PER DAY. If SG supplies MORE, it would cost Johor more.
The second limit is the raw water SG is getting from the Johor River. If we are drawing 250 mgd (raw water), we CANNOT provide MORE than 250 mgd of treated water to Johor. (Which would cost Johor $125,000 MYR per day).
The third limit is how much water does Johoreans need? Yes, 50 sen per 1000 gallons is a bargain, but only if you can then sell the treated water to thirsty Johoreans at a significant mark up.
Claiming that we do not know the upper limit of SG supplying treated water to MY is to assume that we would GIVE treated water away, or that we do not ACCOUNT for every drop of water we provide.
Of course if you MEAN that YOU do not know what the upper bounds of what Singapore provides Malaysia... well... your ignorance and inability to overcome your ignorance is... not our problem.
During those period, Singapore spend quite a lot to ensure the river and all water catchment are well maintained to hold water and prevent pollution . These are not very well documented.
@@weideliu2878 I suspect one reason why the 1961 agreement was not renewed was because Johor wanted to industrialise the Tebrau Valley (or whatever it is called), but if Singapore was still drawing water from Skudai-Tebrau, we would raise objections and draw attention to the proposal that would pollute the river. So they made it almost impossible to renew that agreement, and when that agreement lapsed, they were free to proceed to put factories there. But of course, I could be crediting the Malaysians with more forward planning than they are capable of, and it was more like, after the agreement lapsed, they realised, "Hey, we can put factories here now!"...
The real story behind is pretty sinister and I could not disclose it publicly. It left readers wondering why malaysia would not treat its own water and why singapore would not build its own water catchment.
Thank you for the education. I am now very much enlightened.
Watched some of your videos. U have very indepth knowledge of Singapore the what goes behind the issues of each country. Very informative. welll done
This is quite an informative video 👍👍 I hope SG-MY will continue to keep the peace 🕊🕊
It is not easy for Singapore to be water self-sufficient. Lots of investments are needed. Hence the water price hikes.
Not easy. But Singapore will and must prepare for future. Singapore government already planed 100years ahead. That's the difference.LKY and your Dr M.
Also China have Central Asia countries with many resources besides oil, also Russia has a pipe oil to China , besides the Arctic is open , Russia is also active there. So that Kru project it too costly and not much savings for users. But still it’s cheaper to bribe the politicians than physically the project. The only person that can fully pay for the project, is the highest person in the land with his wealth.
The south have always been headache for The Central government, every few decades there is a revolution,due to unequal developments and traditionally it was independent Malay Islam states but though war that became vassal of siam. There is nothing permanent , with the call of a holy war.
@@akane8615majority of Thai Muslim is Malay. Mabily they live in 4 southern Thai states.
Until 1902, these provinces were ruled by Malay Sultans
@@akane8615bodoh peh kambing… ihea
Don’t underestimate the citizens of Singapore for clear drinking water we are willing to pay the price and work harder. We may complain but we know what we must do.
When will Singapore government stop supplying Malaysia water, with subsidy?
2061 you don’t have internet or what?
I've been in Johor & JB for the 50 yrs. See for urself how the usage of treated water (fit for drinking). When I'm in S'pore, I notice how water are treated so precious everytime they turn on the tap.
Singapore is not stingy we are willing to sell treated water to Malaysia as long as the price is right. There is a saying in mandarin “There is no forever enemy just forever beneficial relationship.”
Just remember that the contract last till 2060+. After that, Malaysia will sell water to Singapore at the "right price" in return
They should play this video in Malaysia as part of national educations. Abit tired of seeing Malaysians shouting cut off water cut off water like an ignorant child.
Majulah Singapura
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When asked what will Singapore do if Malaysia cuts off the water supply? Lee Kuan Yew answered: We'll go in and get it!
That was then, Singapore is no sitting duck. Wake up.
They mean they will go to war
Sure but don't expect Singapore to prosper anymore after it starts a war with Malaysia because the Malaysian army will ensure that Singapore's key infrastructure gets sabotage and investors will lose confidence to invest in Singapore!
So SG was threatening MY for war all along. My attitude toward SG was neutral initially, but this change thing. Thank you for the info.
@@salplayer9198quote "If Malaysia cuts water supply" unquote
You see the cause and effect there? Or are you just reading half the sentence. Who is the one threatening?
Malaysians have to ask that Mahatir who signed up the water deal with Singapore..... Mahatir likes to think he is smarter than LKY.
Very insightful video!
The video contains good information.
This just proves that the Johor state government has been sleeping on their job and is grossly incompetent when it comes to water management.
Lazy bear tragedy
transport and city planning as well lol. till date no reliable mode of public transport, in this day and age
FROM THIRD WORLD TO FIRST--
THE SINGAPORE STORY:1965-2000
page 276--
Singapore's Quest for Water Self-Reliance
He [Mahathir] was direct and asked what we were building the SAF [Singapore Armed Forces] for. I (Lee Kuan Yew)replied equally directly that we feared that at some time or other there could be a random act of madness like cutting off our water supplied which they [the Malaysians] had publicly threatened whenever there were differences between us … In [the Separation] agreement, the Malaysian government had guaranteed our water supply. IF this was breached,we would go to the UN Security Council. If water shortage became urgent, in an emergency,we would have to go in, forcibly if need be, to repair damaged pipes and machinery to restore the water flow. I was putting my cards on the table. He denied that such precipitate action would happen. I said I believe that he would not do this, but we had to be prepared for all contingencies.”
-Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore Prime Minister
One thing great about Singapore is that whenever a problems arise the government try to solve it.
Excellent documentary
Wait.... Malaysia once said it would go to war with Singapore all because of water ??? That's crazy
Yes comments made by Mahathir in 2002 while speaking to reporters in KL.
Currently gov are looking into the long island project along east coast hopefully it will another mega water catchment project in the future.
Water will be a strategic resource in the future. A good example is the Mekong river which is often obstructed by the China dams. How many countries will eventually go to war to break the dam? Singapore may be small but it has unlocked the skills to be water self sufficient. Indonesia is another good example of what happened when the natural underground water resources are abused till the land sunk and has to move the capital out!
Singapore is not water sufficient. Around 50% of the water that Singapore uses currently comes from Malaysia and this has not factor in the population growth in the coming years due to neutralization of immigrants and/or higher birth rates and foreign workers. It is also very likely that future water supply from other countries (if any) will cost a lot more as the prices will be adjusted after inflation and may require new infrastructures to support the population growth
@@ViolentCabbage-ym7ko Singapore is already water sufficient with the current Desalination, NEWater plants and local catchment. However, we always insisted the need for imported water from Malaysia as it is politically savvy to maintain this relationship and agreement. This agreement ties us economically to Malaysia and these ties are the backstops against any future hostile actions.
@@sgtjyf01Oh really? Then I'm sure you can provide the data to support you claim?
1.How much water does Singapore use per day in comparison to its imports from Malaysia?
2. Desalination is an energy intensive water source. How much does it cost to convert a thousand gallons of sea water to drinking water?
3. How much will the consumers have to pay for the cost of desalination once the water agreement with Malaysia has expired?
Mahathir is fully aware of the situation but constantly spreading nonsense in Malaysia because there is still a large number of people who are gullible and easily manipulated. Fortunately there are still a lot of sensible folks in both countries who are educated enough to see his BS.
Singaporeans may grumble about their government. But one thing is for sure, Singaporeans sure are fortunate to have had the leaders that led them to this, till they are able to be water sufficient. Look at the condition in Malaysia in states like Kelantan, and you will know how fortunate Singaporeans are.
Looking at the map could Pulau Ubin areas be block up and convert it into a very large fresh water reservoir just like the Marina Barrage.
If possible, Singapore in future will have no need to depend on Malaysia for water supply.
Looking further ahead, the ‘reservoir’ if not needed, could be reclaimed for land use.
p.s. New water & desalination of sea water is not the stable and complete permanent solution.
Singapore is already moving towards not depending on Malaysia at all. We are building more desalination plants and investing in a lot of infrastructure. Way before 2061, there is no longer any need to import water from Malaysia.
@@strategicstudies1835 Do you know that you need a lot of energy for desalination plants?
@@meklavier4664 Of course, but Singapore can pay it.
Obviously, but we have the resources $$$ for it - already building 5 with more to come. @@meklavier4664
@@Wolyzz-bk7qs Do you know where singapore got their energy? Malaysia lol.
Let just face it, SG cannot be self sustainable without Malaysia. They need energy, water, food and millions other things to keep the state going.
Even if SG have money, there's no use if they can't use it.
Long ago the british built a reservoir in johor , and that provides raw water, not processed water for consumption. The processing plant is in singapore, so singapore sells treated water back to johor. This is a fact. The title of the vlog sounds mischievous a bit. It doesn't mean johor cannot take raw water(in johor) and treat it. Probably building a plant is too costly.
Nothing is too costly
It cost about rm1 billion.
Very doable.
@@zafir7007
There are bigger projects undertaken
Then we can charge whatever we want, its our water
If they don't like it they can get it elsewhere
Sorry, your attitude is not a good gesture.
@@Colegegreen
It's your arrogance that doesn't sit well
Remember, no water from Malaysia, Singapore will cease to exist
Malaysian has alot to learn and copy from Singapore
As the saying goes, countries may one day go to war over water, not oil…
Yr video, in 1965, Sgp imported 50% of raw water & in 2023, Sgp 25% of raw water. Are sure it reduces?? Based on % or actual quantity imported?
This is in terms of %. And yes it has reduced a lot after the expiry of the 1961 agreement in 2011. when that expired, Singapore did not renew it.
Mahatir lost the battle against Singapore .
The cause of being racist 😂
Thanks the update
Problem will be when the treaty end in 2061. While Singapore will become self sufficient, what if Johor requires help since there will no longer be any agreement? I am sure Singapore will help due to the close cooperation between the 2 states.
Johor no longer buystreated water from Singapore.
Malaysia just like Singapore has its own planning too
@@shamshulanuar7718the problem with Malaysia's planning is it doesn't always goes according to plan. I'm still waiting for their VEP system after various revisions over the last decade
Did you comment without watching the video? Malaysia still buys treated water from Singapore and at times even asks for extras during dry weather. @@shamshulanuar7718
@@shamshulanuar7718 Malaysia doesn’t have planning for infrastructures, but making money out of infrastructures by the people up there. Corruption only. The ones paying for the bill are the Malaysians anyway.
With declining RM, infrastructure costs will be highly inflated, soon there will be a bottleneck as in whether building infrastructures will be financed by budget, or taking on even more debts to finance. This would swing RM to new lows. In a decade or so, we could see RM 5: SGD 1
@@shamshulanuar7718
You must be kidding.
Great video. Great content. But dropped the music.
In my fictional world, Malaysia didn't have this problem
The amount of water demand decreases bc Sinagapore is recycling you waste water with your high tech process...bottomline: sewage water from Singapore residences...correct??
No Singapore recycle just a small part of sewage and it’s mostly sold to Malaysia as clean water. The amount taken from Malaysia is decreasing because we desalinate sea water
Sorry we Singaporeans know that but can't be bothered to argue back that typical "singapore depend on us malaysia for water you know?!" joke. It kindas make me chuckle harder hearing that. If something ain't spoilt,dont fix it! LOL!
In my fictional world, all states in Malaysia have clean water
Look at the differences of water quality at both water catchments area between Singapore and Singapore, one is muddy one is clear water, 😅,
Very well done video, will be much better if there’s a Chinese version or with Chinese subtitles
Thank you for the kind words! Will certainly consider this if we can get the help to translate!
@mingtsongkoh2739 Hello, don't be racist. :)
@@schadenfreude6274how’s it racist? With a Chinese version it will benefit more viewers, especially older generations
@@mingtsongkoh2739 @schadenfreude6247 he's right, we should include not just chinese but also malay and tamil subtitles if its for the older generations.
Terbaik 👍
This YT "facts" are all nonsensically outdated.
Johor state has not been dependent on Spore's PUB treatment plants in Johor for more than 10 years.
The Gunong Pulai and Scudai waterworks had been given to the Johor but the water supply from Sungai Linggui is still ongoing till 2061.
When additional water is requested by Malaysia, like in 2015 and 2016 etc when they are having drought, treated water from Singapore mainland is also drawn.@@qwertypoet2386
Instead of accusing others of being nonsensical, how about you produce your own facts with the documents/statements from your government?
The video has given screenshots and even links to the statements made by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Where are your sources?
HAHAHA! Nice daily joke from the youtube. Thank you for the jokes! LOL! Go back school little boy
Just goes to show how ignorant Malaysians are
It is very satisfying that Dr Mahathir is still alive today.
😂😂😂 rub it in?
Tun Mahathier know only Proton Air to Singapore 😅
Mark my words, Mat won't be around for long ...
After 2061 Malaysia will buy water from Singapore hahaha 😆 😂 😄
I hope there is a button to switch off the music
As the citizen of ASEAN, we shouldnt care who relies on whom. We should instead start building our own inventions to stop relying on products coming from outside of ASEAN.
Aren't we all relying on Taiwan's microchips and EU's electrical components way too much? Cant we build them on our own?
That's the real issue to be asking ourselves.
Microchips and devices. Not water.
Some say Malaysia cant even produce chickens on surplus without relying on Ukrainian wheat as chicken feeds, let alone microchips.
We must change that as a region. To be the world's largest exporters as a region.
I love it.....❤❤❤😊
Mahathir should see this video😂😂😂😂
Tebalik tajuk tu bukan Malaysia lah yg rely tapi Singapore tu 😅😅😅😂😂😂, tapi tak perlulah nak gaduh2 kita jiran kena baik2 win2 situation maa
that is the whole point of the video. If you understand English you will know why the tajuk is terbalik.
In my fictional world, Malaysia didn't have any water issues and problems
Ask Mahatir to help
Like brothers who bicker over silly things, at the end of the day, we'll gladly extend a helping hand to one another😊
6:30 not true..water disruptions are fewer nowadays and most are due to schedule maintenance anyway..and u left out d most important part of this issue which is singapore buys water at 1 sen per 4500L
How many times does water disruption happen in Singapore and JB compared to Selangor? How many places in Selangor still get brown water flowing through their taps?
@@navanillera none
Do you really think that Singapore is not aware of the brown water that flows out of Kelantan taps, and the water disruptions on Selangor? @@KayH6
@@strategicstudies1835 kelantab is well deserved and may even be intentional as ppl there are idiots voted for taliban minded opposition..selangor hv water problem? U cant even differentiate btwn scheduled maintenance and water shortage right idiot?
Thanks Singapore Tourism Board for another propaganda. You are the best.
This is not propaganda this is the truth. And what does the tourism board have anything to do with this?
Didn't Penang shown you what it is about water resources? talk is cheap, long term strategic plaining is a must.
To sign contrak with Malaysia, now people scared, so quickly register the document with UN World Court. Which company investor in the world dare to invest here. Cilakak la.
their 臭名声 is well known. even LKY back then already know their ba wu (odour) and quickly lodge the agreement with the United Nations. fast forward to 2022, look at how they U turn on the HSR. lucky our govt know their pattern and have penalty written in the contract.
Singapore sells raw water to Malaysia for expensive cost and resells in Singapore at a cheap price. $1 gets 4 bottles of 1.5 litre peak business IQ from the Malaysia government
Excuse me. The raw water Malaysia supplied is undrinkable. It needs to be treated for it to be consumed. So don’t always say 3 Sen is too little. If Singapore do not buy it, it will just flow off somewhere.
4th threat…stop selling eggs and chicken to Singapore
No more Ah Khun breakfast set and Hainanese Chicken rice
Singapore imports its eggs and chicken from many other countries besides Malaysia. It used to be only Malaysia, but since Malaysia played punk, we have imported it from Indonesia, Thailand, Australia etc. Now you know why the Malaysian ringgit stinks because the Malaysians keep sabotaging their own economy.
Malaysians do not seem to be very bright do they? Since they curtailed eggs and chicken exports to Singapore, Singapore has diversified its sources and now imports eggs and chicken from Indonesia, Australia, Europe etc. In the end the losers are Malaysian farmers themselves. @user-dl3vo1yw9r
Actually since the chicken supply was cut, Singapore sourced from many countries and now the dependence on Malaysia for fresh chicken and eggs are a lot less. It will never be the case of no eggs or fresh chicken because of trade with many countries such products are not difficult to come by. Unless of course, there are major emergencies or war, then the supply will be restricted.
You do know a lot of our eggs come from Poland and locally now right?
Both countries are losers in the end. Singapore has to pay more for Newater, and Malaysia loses a source of easy money. When everyone discusses water price, there is something both countries do not want to reveal for some strange reasons. Singapore has been paying Malaysia land lease for opportunity cost of not developing the water catchment area, which Malaysia has no need to develop anyway. It's free money for Malaysia.
Another fact that nobody mentions is Singapore has been effectively paying less and less to Malaysia due to Ringgit weakness.
Paying less and less?! Stupid Malaysian government can't manage their economy well. Malaysians will become poorer while other countries become richer. The Islamic religion is impeding their ability to make proper economic and political policies.
I'm glad Dr Mahathir is still alive and kicking. Perhaps it would have been better, if he had a chance to negotiate Johor water supply. too bad, he was kicked out of the government.
I am glad that old man was kicked out of politic - trouble maker. The politicians in m'sia think they can revoke contract or agreement as & when they wish. No brainer!
Ya I also . He good at playing politics and dividing malaysia racially, look at how unfairly east malaysia was developed? After 60 years of UMMO rule still need Special Economic Plan and racial ratio policies to elevate the competitiveness of bumis? Just like some African Americans telling the schools to lower the standards so as to compete with others . Don’t forget everyone is against the world, not a kampong. So I do welcome mathair back. He out of touch .
Asked the Malaysian do they still want Mr. M . WAT A JOKE.
Johore Sultan happy to see Dr. Madhathir go 😂
@@shaunsim3188don't forget Chinese and Indians too will drop dead without vernacular schools.
As for the zmslays , they are heavily discriminated in private sectors.
Just like when your Pm said that Mslays in Singapore acmt be placed into key SAF as their loyalty would be in question during war( meaning war against Malaysia)
..3 cent per thousand gallons since the 60s
Sold back at 50 sen per thousand gallons . Processing cost is RM2.40 per 1000 gallon . So there is a subsidy amounting to RM 30,400 per day or RM 11 million per year .
But that is the price of ensuring secure water supply for now Johor sells the water at above RM 4.00 (? Can be verified easily) to it’s people .
Singapore aims to be self sufficient in water before the treaty lapses in 2061 . By building more barrages in Singapore , RO and desalination plants even as Johor draws more treated water from Singapore above the amount stipulated in the treaties .
But good neighbours should help each other in it’s water needs .
@KKLIM5 2023 - if you say so...
I need to discuss with 1MDB chairman on how to create reservoirs in Malaysia.
He will create more bank accounts for the money he siphoned if he is in charge😂
lol
Broo if they weren't that corrupt I'd rather them be the government running Malaysia now.
I'm not sure if 'relies' is the apt term to use here... perhaps it is just out-sourcing, based on their own present cost-benefit analysis... somehow I feel sure Malaysia (Johor) can galvanize their resources and technical capabilities to treat water, just that they do not see the need to prioritize it yet...
copium
cut off the water supply? Singapore's turn to say that? haha
Exactly! In a few years, the table will turn....
Can we stop being so yaya. We are all humans
singaporeans are generally humble. we only act yaya when we're being pushed. are u singaporean? if yes, u want to be pushed ar? when malaysia threatened to cut water supply, do u seriously think the malaysians regard us singaporeans as human?
In my fictional world, Malaysia didn't dependent on Singapore for water 🙄🙄🙄
Smart business people will build more reservoirs to collect water for sale when there is a customer who wanted to buy!
Questioning why many Singaporeans keep birds or parrots while Malaysians do not engage in this practice seems nonsensical?
"Tutup air kang" 💀💀💀💀
I guess now we can say Malaysian are buying water from us :D
Let’s help one another can we. We SG yaya Sia like that. Imagine u Malaysian
They even didn't foresee today Sin$ values in the 70s, and the very must planning ahead Long term Water Resources. Covid19 has given the best stress test for Sg. Gov, the shut of crossway.
Is it surprising?
Mahathir is always trying to get singapore to pay more for the water sold to singapore.cos he says singapore is very rich.
@@franciswoon2130 exactly. And on our part, we have always said that they are welcomed to revise the price for raw water but we also reserve to revise the price of treated water supplied to Malaysia.
Indonesia need to stop allowing foreign plantation company to start plantation business in Indonesia. Not only that raw material such as oil, gases, sand and cement material should be banned to be shiped to neighboring countries and there should be check points on Indonesian water in Natuna island. Indonesia need to tax those ships before entering Malacca strait. Not only that. Indonesia should start massive Investment in Natuna and Batam Island. World class hotel,bank, company, school and university should be build in Batam and Natuna. It also should be supported with world class transfortation such as subway,LRT/MRT and world class airport
纸上谈兵是最简单的。你能想到，印尼政府会想不到？please la.. indonesia gotten independence from the dutch for how many years already? with such vast land, large and young population, huge natural resources, indonesia would have attain/did what u said long ago already!
Audio levels are all over the place.
How singapore relies everything on malaysia , malaysia provide water to singapore for detoxfying n filtering purpose .
Malaysia gov is not grateful…even cut of chicken supplies….
Malaysia has the resources. Singapore has the technology.
Or Malaysian have something to take from environment, Singapore build something out of almost having nothing😂😂
tech can be bought or thru xfer. malaysia can have the tech too. but sgp cannot make resources from air. so technically nmalaysia can be as good or even better than sgp. the root cause is user problem.
Good for you. You do you…
Sg and Johor need to merge into a greater Johor or sg 🤣
SG for sure, if merge into MY, SG national treasury would end up having to pay and finance the huge debts MY incurred. If Johor got absorbed into SG, SG can clear Johor debts in a heartbeat and Johor be debt free, and Johor folks instantly becomes 3-4 times richer due to change of currency and assets valuation in SGD terms. Maybe half will be millionaires in SGD terms overnight.
Sorry no. Still prefer to have Buddhism as the biggest religion here in Singapore.
@@leonardw5487don’t bring in religion please.
no. first putrajaya will never let johor go. and i think the constitution of malaysia doesnt allow that to happen. second, why would singapore make putrajaya mad by merging with johor? one is a republic one is monarchy. one is secular, the other is islamic. impossible.
Sounds good but actually no cause too much difference although much similarities.
Someone comment about Malaysia education being backward. Hello! Do you know Malaysia ? Let's take a look at the presence of international universities in Malaysia. There are currently 5 British universities campuses in Malaysia, 3 Australian universities, 3 Chinese universities, and around 5 Singaporean universities and colleges in Malaysia.....
Malaysia's education is not backward. It is just that majority of the education system is conducted in bahasa melayu and as it is not a language that is used worldwide, it can be disadvantages for those who are looking for employment in the english speaking world. Perhaps that is why someone commented that Malaysia education is backward. Just my observation.
This comment is self-pawn lol. Having international universities in Malaysia is not something to be proud of, it's more shameful.
It means that there is a large number of Malaysians who want to get into university but cannot to. And we know why. Chinese and Indian students there who score straight As will lose out to Malays in terms of admission because of BUMIPUTRA tongkat policy.
This is why foreign universities come in to meet the demand - shameful don't you think?
@@jer2911.L it's to be expected isn't it? All country always focus on their native language in the education system didn't matter which level. Only certain countries would use foreign language as primary language in education. But that doesn't mean the country that focusing on native language doesn't teach foreign language in higher education system but it's depending on student to learn it and what course they take
@@jer2911.Lwhats wrong bahasa melayu every country proud their native like japan russia and south korea why can't Malaysia
@@nicky9117 There's nothing wrong with using and promoting bahasa melayu. I am just pointing out that it is a big disadvantage due to the fact that bahasa melayu is not used universally and it could be disadvantages for commercial and job opportunities. But if you are happy using bahasa melayu, please continue.
Malaysia produces babies, not water.
Damn thats rough (im here to enj- see the comment section)
In my fictional world, Malaysia is better than Singapore
In my fictional world, Malaysia are more successful than Singapore. So, Malaysia didn't have any water problems and issue
shame on this, thanks for the informations learning something
In my fictional world, Malaysia has technology to clean their own water. So, no need to depends on Singapore
Your fictional world is your reality then. Malaysia is not just the city of Johor Bahru.
Singapore definitely doesn't treat all of Malaysia's water, not even all of the state of Johor.
@@KhalixMY my fictional world has Boboiboy and Ejen Ali world. Cyberaya is more successful than Singapore
@@KhalixMY and fictional world is a world in novel, comic and many more
@user-dl3vo1yw9r
Just drink the water no need ro clean
MalaysiA IS SLEEPING,from the 70s Mysia think they are better then Spore
Singapore is given to the chinese by malay inteligent.cause they know chinese is hard working and good in bissness.and has no boundary in bissness.malaysia just sit back and relax.taste the fruit singaporean plant.
I have lots of Malaysian Malay friends and they are also very hardworking.
@@strategicstudies1835 that is why malaysia and singapore are truly asean.
@@razaliyusof8861hahaha kesian ba la ci cina. melayu kat singapore bukan dapat benefit apa pun😂
Singapore is not given to the Chinese but it was ruled by the British which opened doors to many immigrants especially from China who came for business and settled down. Thus the Chinese population grew and it happened that LKY and his multi-racial party won the election to govern Singapore after the British ruled.
@@qwertypoet2386 lol multiracial is just a fake thing la. u songapore actualyy a chines emajority with special rights compare to others. but your lky cover it with delusional "multiracial" 🤣
We use captain planet.
Mahathir now has one eye on Anwar Ibrahim. Daim Zainuddin, Mahathir's former two time finance minister, is now being investigated by the Malaysian anti graft body. Mahathir is shivering in his spine.
Will they really go after him though? Won't persecuting an old man lower Anwar's popularity?
Come on dude, not malaysia but johor only
So Johor is not part of Malaysia?
Like that I can also say, only Woodlands depends on water from Johor. The rest of Singapore takes water from other reservoirs.
"Come on dude, not Singapore but Woodlands only"
@@strategicstudies1835it's only johor that depending on Singapore for processing but the water supply still in johor so in other words it's both that depending on each other not Malaysia as a whole since the other states is self-depending on water supplies
Johor not part of Malaysia?
So I can also say that only Woodlands take water from Malaysia, not Singapore as the rest of Singapore take water from our reservoir?@@fakhrianuar
@@strategicstudies1835 if only woodland use the water source from Johor then yes but if all Singaporean use that water then no
@@strategicstudies1835 but apparently 40 percent from Singaporean population still depending on water source from Johor
i came here for the joke, c'mon lemme see some🤣
Sink-gaporeans tend to think they are "superior"
🤣😂
The joke is that Malaysians think "Singaporeans tend to think they are superior" but it is the other way around because Malaysians like to threaten Singaporeans with "cut the water supply". Due to these threats Singapore is preparing for self reliance on water and probably after 2061 Malaysia will buy or rely more water from Singapore.
Misleading