Running MS OFFICE on Linux - Is it enough to justify paying for Wine?
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Crossover is developed by Codeweavers. This company is one of the biggest contributors to Wine, they make up 2/3 of the commits on the project, and most of the code they use on Crossover is given back to Wine, in open source form.
Crossover in itself, is a software installation platform: it combines a graphical user interface that lets you install and manage windows software, and a database of installation "recipes" that are kept up to date, and contain all the dependencies and configuration steps to install this windows software.
You could also compare it to PlayOnLinux, but Crossover has a few advantages over it:
- First, buying it helps the Wine project, since you're allowing Codeweavers to keep working on Wine, and they give back their code to the Wine project. Buying Crossover allows the Wine project to keep going, or even to move faster.
- Second, the ratings given on the Crossover GUI are certified, so you can get support for a specific app if it doesn't run on your device even though it's marked as working in Crossover. You can get email or phone support depending on the plan you've picked, to help you make sure you can run what you need.
- Finally, Crossover has great management tools: you can create Wine bottles, which are basically folders that contain all the necessary files for Wine, and select in which bottle you want to install your app: if a bottle you already have is compatible with your app, Crossover will tell you, and you can save some disk space instead of duplicating everything. Bottles are also supported by PlayOnLinux, but it won't tell you if a bottle is compatible with a specific app or not, so you're better off installing each app in a specific bottle, which will use a lot of space.
Installing and using Crossover
Crossover is a paid-for application, but you can also try it for free for 2 weeks. This lets you check that the apps you need can run with Crossover, or not, but after this trial period, you'll need to pay for the software.
Installing Crossover is pretty easy, just head over to the site, select "free trial", and download the installer. It's available in various formats: Debs, RPMs, or .bin if you're not using Ubuntu or Red Hat. After that, you just open the package and install Crossover.
Installing applications is as simple as looking for their name in the Software Installer, or browsing the various categories and selecting it. You then have the option to select the install media, whether it be a file, a mounted ISO, or a folder, and Crossover will take care of installing any tweaks, libraries, or windows components you might need.
You also get the rating of the app, as in "will it run, and how" front and center, so you don't waste your time trying to install things that clearly won't work.
Once your software is installed, Crossover will automatically add entries to your menu so you can launch your windows apps just like if they were native Linux ones, but you can also handle a lot of the settings for each bottle.
I managed to install Microsoft Office 365, which worked, but was kinda slow at displaying the various tabs in the ribbon, and the interacting with it wasn't super speedy.
Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Even Outlook worked well, though, I could activate them using my MS Account, and even though the text rendering in some menus is a bit wonky, and there are some slowness issues here and there, it's perfectly usable. Access couldn't get past the part where you're supposed to create a new database or select a template.
I also couldn't find Affinity Designer in the list, and Illustrator CC is listed as working, on the website, but also doesn't show up in the list of apps to install. Whether that's a limitation of the trial version, or because the app no longer works and they removed it, I couldn't tell.
I couldn't find iTunes in the Graphical user interface, the only AutoCad version the app lists is 2013, and is stated as Will Not Install.
Also, I think it's important to mention, but Crossover also runs on Mac OS, including on M1 Macs, and on Chrome OS, so you can expand the software library for these systems as well! - Наука та технологія
for me, paying crossover is one way to fund the developers who work on wine.
Yeah that’s a good reason to pay for it!
I don't mind paying for a closed source program long as they offer open source version of it like chrome and chromium
Wine: How to bring all Windows Viruses to Linux.
Hacker: Linux users don't even have Anti Virus Software. Nice.
Wine isn’t Chinese at all, and viruses, if they even installed or worked, would be limited to the fake windows drive that wine uses, so there is close to 0 risk, apart on the files that you edit using windows apps on Linux.
The rest of the system is invisible to the viruses.
@@TheLinuxEXP I've seen a test where WannaCry encrypted the whole home folder as well, because in the standard configuration it has access to all those folders.
Thumbs up for promoting paid apps and utilities in Linux. Open source is necessary for specific cases but also is necessary to pay developers for professional development.
This is what Linux should've been more promoted of. Like Bandcamp for indie music and independent artists
I was literally coming to UA-cam to see if there are any explanations about WINE and CodeWeavers. and you just uploaded one! what a timing!
Nice !!
Same lol just 2 hours ago i was reading about CrossOver but then suddenly this video came
Crossover is just WINE with access to tech support.
Get your 69th like
The ability to archive bottles and share bottles between applications is very powerful. I don't use crossover, but I could definitely see its use case in offices.
if the Adobe CC worked with this I'd buy it for whatever they'd ask for
You're one of the few people that can make your videos interesting and entertaining without background music. I love your channel man.
Using Windows in a virtual machine is good enough for me. I just need it for Office.
I use CrossOver on Mac...and when I need an application that isn't listed, I just select the "Unlisted Application" option in the Select Application section, then you can just select the installer yourself. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, but I thought it was worth mentioning (based on your example of iTunes, it might not be listed but might still be installable through this process)
I have a full lifetime crossover license, though I still prefer to use bottles when possible. If you can use tools available to everyone, you can help other users.
i never managed to make bottles work lol, lutris seem to work when bottles does not
your have answer all the questions I just had in mind, thanks for your video!
Thanks :)
Wow, this channel is growing fast!
$500 kind of expensive for a single user.
There is a cheaper way of doing it.
@@Ray_TambaBudol_Marcos Waiting for promo codes?
It would be great to have an application like Lutris or Crossover that don't just let you run stuff through wine, but perhaps also console emulators, where on one machine you can be running Linux apps, Windows apps, Android, NES, PS3, etc. Each accessible through your normal apps list and each easily installable.
afaik lutris does let you install emulators. Unfortunately I never managed to run lutris effectively on mint, always gave me some problem, I am quite bummed about that but hey it's free...
that's easily achievable by creating custom shortcuts and adding them to your list
This is extremely good for companies who only use quick books and MS office(and similar programs) and want to switch to Linux and not pay the licensing fees.
I used CrossOver briefly right after it first came out, many moon ago. At that time, I was using wine built from source. I was happy to get Internet Explorer 6 to run and maybe a couple of other applications. That was back in my "Slackware days". lol I've been meaning to give wine another shot, to see how it's improved, of the years, but just haven't had the time and computer resources to do it. *sigh* Thanks for posting!
Crossover seems much more Mac-centred. Linux users are better of manually using Wine with scripts, but most scripts will have a problem running those scripts (for example because macOS doesn’t include Vulkan). Crossover is an essential part of Wine for Mac’s development, without it there would be no wine for macOS 10.15+. For a long time Linux was an afterthought, which shows in advertising. On Mac, for most software, it’s either manual setup or crossover, there are no scripts for Mac available. And as it can be safely assumed that Mac users are on average less advanced than Linux users a solution like this is great for them.
I'd like to see a video about Cedega as well
Hi Nick. Do you have french origins ? I just noticed, I already saw, in the past, several videos with some french stuff on your screen and it just hit me right now :-) I'm following you for a time now and I think you're doing great. Félicitations et bravo. Keep up the good work.
I am French :)
@@TheLinuxEXP autant pour moi ;-)
Pas de souci :) merci pour les encouragements !
Thanx for the excellent video. I learned a lot today. I went and downloaded CrossOver and tried several Office installs. Came to and issue with the latest O365 in that during the install it says I need a later version of Windows and suggest Win 10. Guess Crossover emulates Win 7 that is no longer supported on new Office install.
I think buying crosover is a good way to support Wine because it benefits the whole Linux world that uses Wine.
The price is a bit high but for those who want to work on Linux safely and use Windows programs in Linux, crosover is the best solution "Anyway Wine is free" in my opinion it is worth giving some support.
Absolutely !
I personally use Linux for Play / lab testing environment (IE vmware), and Windows for work. Given that most of what I'd want to use this for would be getting games to work that don't, would they support that or do you not know?
In regards to Office (and other MS products), it looks like there may be a chance they will come to Linux. They have spent a lot of effort on cross-platform recently. VsCode, Teams and now Edge. Now there is news that Outlook is going Electron. No mention of Linux, but I assume it will come - and maybe a possibility the rest of Office coming to Linux. This is quite a big deal for individuals or companies that rely and need MS products.
@gilkesisking It's well edited and good video.
Pleaze yes. I'm trying Crossover at present to install MS Office. Office 20210 installs and seems to run OK but Outlook will not log in to exchange server. Office 2016 installs but won't run properly, Office 365 starts off Ok but then says I need a later version of Windows and suggests Windows 10 so I guess Crossover emulates something like Win 7. If MS did port to Linux I'd go in a heart beat but I need Outlook with Exchange Server support. I know Thunderbird does it with a OWL license but it's not as good.
@gilkesisking That seems to more Android apps running on Windows not the other way around.
team is not available anymore
O365 is good enough for most people and if that's good enough for you, libre office is probably good enough. If you absolutely need office a window vm makes sense if you want to go down that road.
thanks, I been thinking of changing to Linux, but graphic design software is the only thing holding me back... yes I know there are other softwares, but I have the Affinity suite of programs for that very reason in windows instead of adobe
For iTunes you need to install a custom exe and not using a preconfigured script - just like lutris or playonlinux... When you buy a crossover license you have a great piece of software and encourage future development for more compatibility.
i'd need a drink after using ms office so yes
Let's all drown our Microsoft-induced sorrow in alcohol.
I love MS Office, especially Excel and Access.
@@m1cajah yes same open source ones are bad to me
@@battlebuddy4517 Just donate the cash you pay for MS Office to Libre Office so they can make it even better. Nothing is free, but you can always help to make open source software awesome.
Have you tried starting a PowerPoint presentation? If so, did it work (i.e. full screen presentation on one screen, notes on the other) ?
I didn’t, but you can try it with the free trial! I’d expect it to work fine, though, PowerPoint worked well for what I tried with it.
I had the exact same question, because there are not any satisfying alternatives to MS office yet and wine does not manage the dual screen for now...
@@paulmabille8112 I personally can't make work the presentator view on ONLYOFFICE, maybe because I'm on Wayland...
@@naqrah3889 i used it a few years ago. It is good most off the time. But the alignement was not reliable when opening someone else docx document (or the other way).
I was subscribe crossover several years ago for office and work stuff that I need to run on Linux.. And since I don't use office anymore, it is been 3-4 years I hadn't install crossover or even wine.. Many games on steam work with proton too..
I use CrossOver to play Windows games on my M1 Macbook Air. It is supremely useful
Nice!
Do you have 8GB or 16GB memory? Which games do you play and how good is the performance?
M1 runs Wine? How good is performance /compatibility with x86_64 emulation?
It's the same situation with Zorin OS pro and Zorin OS core. You can download crossover and build it yourself, or you can buy for 20 bucks, which is not a huge amount.
I wonder if TruckersMP will work on that platform, as all my games run through steam, but the multiplayer for Euro truck sim 2 and American truck sim is a separated install and have always failed on wine
I used to try cross-over many years ago before lutris or play on Linux was released. But nowadays I can even run Google sketchup and my 3d printer slicing software on lutris. I'm happy enough with lutris. One more thing.. The Linux is bigger then ever because it's open source and I think a paid option of wine like cross-over never would be big as lutris.
0:50 i thout you were gonna say gentoo XD
Can I use Opera GX browser on wine for any linux distro? Sorry, new to linux ubuntu.
I have hard time being interested before there is a dual-boot level performance for not just office (as many workplaces mandate it), but also for stuff like photoshop, adobe media-encoder, bridge, premiere pro and creative cloud.
Gaming on Linux is great. But to pay for active support and development for software used for work, there needs to be a level of performance suitable for work - and currently there is no such offering.
Many of these projects and services seem to struggle not only because that is a steep wall to conquer, but because they don't start with ideology that even attempts. Maybe they underestimate how invasive or time consuming their software can be, as they compete with the existing products, instead of windows as dual-boot solution directly.
But in reality, that is the opponent they face. For users, the question is not if one or two applications are usable and supported, if the interface is nice and if opening the first software is fast, it is if they can uninstall windows and have an environment they can work in, at the level their job requires.
So I would be more happy with dual-booting to cross-over, or opening up a more costly environment that makes it impossible to reach the software running on Linux, as long as I can efficiently use web-browser, ms office, and Adobes full software profile; along with software large industries and hence most workers rely on. The competition is not wine; it's windows and macOS. And until the software addresses that need, these projects are greatly limited in users and consumers.
Great review and explanation. Thank you for your time and effort to make this video and share it with the world. Greetings from Croatia.
Thanks for watching :)
I am still looking to get the "Windows7 games for windows 10" package to run on Linux (to convince some people ro run Linux). Has anyone succeded with that? I can run it but it has no menues etc. Also it is not listed on Crossover, unfortunately.
I bought Crossover, I am pretty happy with it but also keeping an eye on bottles. So far Crossover has worked more consistently for me though.
The example made about the epic launcher in my opinion hilights a big problem we have in the Linux community, fragmentation. We are a lot, a lot of people, coders and minds in general are involved in this big mega project that is Linux in its entirety but everyone works on his slightly different little project, this is awesome on one side, the freedom to express yourself trough your project, I feel it near to my heart as a coder myself, but on the other side makes everything more slow, less optimal and not as good as it could be, to be onest the more similar projects merge the faster they will go
Back in college Codeweavers ran a promotion and gave away copies of CrossOver. At the time i was trying to stick with Linux on a janky Acer laptop but needed to install AutoCAD but Wine was a nightmare back then. CrossOver was easier to install but getting CAD working was still a no go. I think the company is focused on business use though i think they've fallen short.
I have seen some videos by a professional engineer here on UA-cam, with experience of SolidWorks, test FreeCAD and find it pretty much equivalent in functionality and robustness, to the point where he has used it in actual jobs.
I feel like a portion of people who need the Office suite would be fine using the 365 suite.
I thought that one of the reasons you'd want crossover is because they've got their own special sauce of wine with special hacks that make the applications run? Hacks that wouldn't be fit for upstream wine but are needed for programs like microsoft office to run?
I think I will install windows in virtual box and use all the functions of windows. I think it'll be a better idea for me. let's see how it goes.
You will need minimum 32 GB of RAM to run Windows 10/11 perfectly in VM(16GB RAM for VirtualBox)
Extremely frustrating to be stuck on Windows for work just because M$ Office is the gold standard in the business world.
We should just love each other and accept LibreOffice as our personnal saviour :p ... aha. We need more people to spread the "good news".
"In the name of the Father (Richard Stallman) and the Son (Linux Torvald) and the Holy Spirit (GNU General Public License)" :p
Have you tried adding speaker notes to a slide in LibreOffice presenter?
I find it to be secondary problem that it doesn't list programs. Real question is if you can download the installer and run it.
Couldn't even get it to install on Ubuntu. Kept saying I was missing python dependencies even though I had all of them and they were up to date
Damn Nick got much slimmer in a year, props to him!
at what point does it become more convenient to install a windows partition?
Can you maybe start uploading videos in 1440p or 2160p?
Its really sad, I got office 365 working until September. UNDER NORMAL WINE... But after the office update that axed win 7 support it stopped working. Anyone who wants to do this you can have some luck by using 2013 then updating to 2019 though that takes a lot of time and is a bit hit or miss
Been running crossover for ages.
That's nice and all, but at the end of the day CrossOver allows me - the n00b Linux user - to get M$ software up and running hassle free.
I really can't understand people who keep on saying that Lutris or PlayOnLinux or Wine is the way to go, I was NEVER able to get my Office 365 to work - no matter how many tutorials I read and tried to understand. I was never able to get past the technical aspect of it and get a simple "one click" solution.
I'd be more than happy if you'd do a top to bottom tutorial on how to setup an M$ office 365 using any other software:/
Codeweavers makes proton as well? Valve pays them to do that. Codeweavers is quite possibility one of the most important companies making Linux relevant for many people. Supporting Codeweavers is what makes Wine possible. You think Steam's Proton runs stuff well? That is because Valve is paying Codeweavers, who in turn can pay developers. This is something I think many Linux users just can't understand. You want Linux to be all it can be? You need to give money to the projects you like.
Yea this is what linux users don't understand. At least music fans, music nerds support their favorite artists by buying or donating or go to their concert. Bandcamp is a perfect platform to support indie and independent artists. These fans are very loyal and passionate as well.
Me, playing GW2 (on linux obvs) while watching this: :OOO
what gw2?
@@shewbell2176 Guild Wars 2. It's one of the best MMOs out there!
I used to install POL + wine and crossover. There is no gain in use crossover....Just to compensate the good Job of wine's developers
If i ever need office for something ill probably go to libreoffice, then to office from the web if neccesary, im trying to save up and do not think having office in Linux with an extra fee is worth it for me, dunno for anyone else.
On another note, Wine is really good on some old laptop i had from 2006, which i installed ubuntu.
Not as good in old intel celerons tho, even if the system says its 64 bits, some programs wont work with it.
While it is actually nice to support them to contribute more to the Wine, but honestly, the lifetime license price is already higher or almost the price of a Windows license.
Not to mention that Windows 10 is the last version of Windows.
Just a thought, but it is nice to have alternative. Also, more mainstream apps to the native linux is more needed than this.
Yeah, the lifetime license doesn’t really make sense to me
The last version of Windows... Oh how naive we were.
There seems to be a lack of relevant videos on crossover, this one being 3 years old, I wish there was a revisit of crossover to see if it's improved in the past 3 years.
I guess there's just no hope having Affinity on Linux. Not sure why the developers don't give a crap about it when they could have the whole Linux platform basically for themselves. The open source tools are nice but I wouldn't mind paying for something that's just nicer to use. For example nowadays I'm using gravit designer instead of inkscape because for me as a non-professional user it's just much more approachable and still has all the features I'll ever need.
The Affinity guys could just do it like the Reaper developers, who don't sell their software for Linux but make it run well via Wine, so people can use it and the developers don't need to offer support.
WINE is free and open source. Crossover just gives tech support. Fine if you want to contribute to WINE development but not necessary. Anyone with the ability to install and work with Linux can use it.
I'd happily pay to run Visual Studio. It's the only thing currently preventing me from switching to Linux as a daily driver. I believe it's highly coupled to the MS ecosystem, so I don't expect it happening anytime soon.
A comparable IDE that ran natively could possibly work for me. But I haven't found any so far.
Maybe JetBrain? I haven't used them though.
weird
I just bought this. No brainer.
It costs as much as a Windows license, or one month's wages in teh DRC...
It's free on deepin Linux
I tried wine to run a few things. It was too slow, and needed a lot of third party stuff, and an application lutris to make a lot of things work. in the end a 3gb program I was trying to run cost me 9 gigs of space, and it didn't run well. I deleted it all. I wouldn't pay for something like this.
Nah I'm fine with OnlyOffice, LibreOffice and LaTeX.
I wish there was more focus on productivity apps like Adobe CC, Affinity and all that stuff. How is it that like 80% of Windows games work fine in Wine, but pretty much no video editor, photo editing program or similar creative applications work?
@gilkesisking I am fully aware that many creative applications are native to Linux. I only said that very few creative apps work through Wine. And unfortunately The Adobe Creative Cloud is an extremely popular set of creative apps, which are neither native nor do they work in Wine (for the most part)
@gilkesisking I wouldn't expect a native version from either Adobe or Affinity but it baffles me why neither one works in Wine and it doesn't seem like there are many efforts to make them work, even though I'm sure there would be a lot of potential interest.
Aaaaaah, bottles, because Wine!
Tbh, you could use lutris to do run normal windows apps too and having it on the home menu too.
Point here is that the support is supposed to be a lot better since you are paying for it. You pay CodeWeavers for the fact that they guarantee your workflow is not compromised. With lutris you are at the mercy of the community to hack together the scripts that enable installations, only for it to suddenly stop working after an update.
@@JarnoKaiI remember my Yandere Simulator stopped working after an update (Wine and Lutris) and need to re tweek again lol
@@JarnoKaiI dunno but my Red Alert 2 Yuri Revenge works better on manually wine setup than on Lutris (i got infinite loading loop)
It should be free for home users and paid-for only for commercial use.
Screw it: I am going to test it out with office97
crossover is not an implementation, but rather a wrapper around wine
Can anyone please explain me which feature does MS Office have that can't be replaced by Libre Office?
I have never found the formulas i used for ms office spreadsheet to be the same. I will have to relearn formula for libre office. I do succeed but am having a struggle to learn it.
@@CohassetMA that's quite a shame
the problem is when you have Ms Office formats in libreOffice
why not donate to wine directly, instead of this?!
You do get customer support, however valuable that may or may not be.
Definitely I would pay for Crossover because of what they have done with during for all us.
Est-ce une ébauche de roman de SF ? J'ai hate de voir ca :D
Haha ouais la plupart de ces dossiers sont des ébauches de romans, sauf 1, qui contient un roman complet et la moitié de sa suite :)
@@TheLinuxEXP je découvre ta chaîne, tu es auteur ? Si oui, tu publies sous quel nom que je puisse regarder ce que tu as fait ?
@@TheLinuxEXP J'aimerais bien voir ca :D
I don't know French. Why am I commenting this?
Long time listener, but first time posting. I have purchased Crossover is past and vowed not to do it again. Short version of the long story, it just didn't work well for me and offered no advantage over Play on Linux or plain old Win.
I chuckle every time you say bottles.
Much of the time Wine simply does not work. This is why its so imperative the high-end distros come with Virtualbox preconfigured to run Windows 95, 98SE & XP.
Where did the myth that Linux costs less to run than windows start?
As is evident my the many towns to try switching to Linux then return to Windows find out the hard way, the admin overhead and support needed for Linux is massively higher than Windows.
I use Linux at home, but it would be a F'ing nightmare if I had to support Linux in the office.
What's proton, lutris, and all those other words? 👀
Why?
I have Abiword and Gnumeric installed, in case anybody sends me a Microsoft document, and do everything I need in LaTeX.
Why load your computer up with all that kludge?
As someone who works on spreadsheets for a living. MS Excel is worth paying for.
If you do more than the most elementary data analysis, I would advise looking beyond Excel ua-cam.com/video/i40d8-Hu4vM/v-deo.html .
Wine doesn't work on my Linux Mint 20 Ulyana with MATE desktop/Compiz. Not a real issue to me since I don't use MS-Windows programs. For other users, why bother buying a commercial version of Wine then ? Some special games perhaps ?
?? It works for me, but i use the staging ppa from their website, maybe that could work
@@Mathias-bz2kr Thanks Qcean for the advice. I used the following procedure to install WineHQ on Linux Mint 20x : wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu. It didn't succeed to install MS-office Pro 2010 (installation stopped half-way through). I suppose as Nick said the successfull procedure depends on the MS program we want to install and execute. Or I had depency conflicts as I am not sure I removed all packets from a previous installation of Wine. WineHQ is pretty heavy, I remember having got rid of about 2 Gb of files.
I think you are not paying attention as to what VERSION of the Apps can run, the fact that says you can run iTunes, doesn´t mean ALL versions of iTunes or Office,
For me it is worth paying because I can run really good apps I need that are not too popular, also
to help the developers.
8:27 Your name is showing, in the top right.
That’s not a problem :)
Every time I hear “Butthole” 🤣
How the hell did you get office 365 to install!? Even getting the installer inside of Linux is a pain, MS hides the downloader.
Well, that’s the advantage of Crossover :) I just switched user agents in the browser to download the installer, and Crossover did the rest!
@@TheLinuxEXP the crossover install failed for me :(
That sucks :/
Timestamps?
It's a fork, not a commercial implementation. They didn't reimplement WINE.
I have see you make your vidéo form Brest it will be Nice if you can do thé same vidéo but in French. Thank by anticipation for your (possible) answer. But by the way if you are French, your English is perfect.
I'll just use windows since I got 2016 office for lifetime.
But would love to use elementary os for work as much as I can since I got lot of my games on windows and I lack self control to ditch work 🤭
If Microsoft already has a Teams client on Linux, then they can easily port MS Office over, which they will in the near future.
Will they really port Office??
If they ever move Office to a web based version, yes. If not, I doubt they’ll do it!
@@TheLinuxEXP I doubt too 😅 but it's so bad
I'm gonna be honest, I thought Wine was paid for years. Hence my primary hesitancy at switching and losing out on games.
"Is it enough to justify paying for Wine?"
Me: "..........Yeeeeeeeessssss >:/"
For that amount of money it was better to just run windows, or if you really want linux use a Windows VM
How well does Office 2013 run? (my company uses that)
Imagine every business would donate $5 to The Document Foundation (Libre Office) per instance per year. It would make Libre Office well better then MS Office in no time and would be cheaper for all.
@@blendarious Libre Office sucks
@@luijo633 Have you ever tried Version 7.0? Open Source Programs aren't awesome when they are released. They evolve over time and even faster with the help of donations.
I recommend OnlyOffice, it is more compatible with MS Office documents, the looking is a lot more similar and doesn't make your work look like spagetti when you open it with another program, as for your question, if 360 was able to run i imagine 2013 will be the same maybe with a little bit less of lag
@@luijo633 I think you meant OnlyOffice and not OpenOffice
also, the main problem my company has are more all of the Scripts and integrations into other programs
Umm you forgot the step after clicking next next next where you spend 8 hours learning about dll versions and right compatibility options and fix the scripts. And then next skip is to update your os to a new release with new opengl version or whatever and do it all over again.
That CrossOver project will not be around for more than 10 years, I bet. Costs way too much. Try it free for 2 weeks first.
I just use Libre Office, find it better and its free ;) And its native. Libre if my favorite :)
Yeah but I sometimes receive Power Point Files from clients and Libre Office and Google Slides can't play the video files
@@jasonfanclub4267 Have you tried WPS Presentation for that?
@@angelrivera8013 no
No, it's not enough to justify paying for Wine. MS Office can be run on any wine manager, or through wine itself directly.
But what I think IS enough to justify is the fact that codeweavers gives back the majority of their code to the wine project, so you paying for Crossover funds the wine project which benefits everyone that uses wine, no matter what wine manager they use.
That said, personally I don't see why people would need MS Office. LibreOffice and other programs can read MS Office files, so compatibility should be there without the ton-weight that is MS Office.