This Volkswagen Jetta got damaged and needed new quarter panel. Tune in to see how I cut it apart, fit up the new panel and get it welded together and primed up!
It's great seeing what I do everyday on UA-cam. 20 year collision tech here. What we do is so much more than pulling a dent with a toilet plunger and slapping bondo on it like most people assume or think. 😀 Kyle, you'll appreciate this. At 4:30 today I was at a point where I could go home for the weekend or start on an aluminum body F-150 bedside, I ground my first spr at 4:35 and at 5:45 I was putting my last rivet in and clamped my last Wurth clamp for panel bond areas to go home for the day. Booya baby gravy
Thanks for your videos. I am learning to fix my own car. What is the purpose of black adhesive patch on the inner side of replacement quarter panel? In some videos you welded reinforcement metal patch under quarter panel butt joints. In this video you didn't have it. When do you need to place it? Why body adhesive is different for the gas tank area (white) and fender lip? Thank you a lot.
Hey my friend I have a question when it comes to using 3m panel bond instead of factory brand adhesive. Is it approved to use 08115 because I'm having issues with qc on a 2020 passat, thanks in advance your work is spot on by the way!
First of all, it is a pleasure to see such good work. However, it would be better if you could restore the quarter panel. Since it doesn't make any sense to change a genuine part of a car when there is not much to do.
Lol you are going to tell Kyle what to do. The right call is to replace the quarter. Also there is more involved then just how the technician or the shop wants to repair something. The insurance company usually dictates that. As an example if you add too much repair time to a panel and insurance company sees it will be cheaper to replace it they will say you must replace it.
@@johnnyshd8250 It seems like he’s gone the distance to cover his ass and do great work. He even matched the factory ECoat colour too. I worked at a place back in the late 90’s into the mid 2000’s where we would remove the crap primer on some new panels and primed them with high solid primer.
@@frostyriffs The factory uses ecoat. Why would you spend money on color match spray can primer if you wanted to look oem especially after all of the seam sealer joints are now destroyed ? As soon as you open the deck lid, you know somebody has been there already. Not a necessary step.
@@HackMasterBlaster It is true. Never got paid more than 14 hours to replace any quarter. Even a truck bedside only pays 11 hours. 2.5 hours outside refinish. .5 for the jamb. .8 up and over on the sail panel. 1.6 blend front door. .5 blend rocker. .8 r and i door handle and belt molding. Clear coat 2.5 hours. Rust proof .5. I came up with low 20s for hours. Plus p and m. You didn't have State Farm rewrite your estimate.Plus State Farm will want pics of blending rr door if you want to get paid for it.
@@johnnyshd8250 if you’re not getting at least 25 hours of body time to put a quarter panel on a car you need to look for a new job because your writers aren’t charging high enough. Yes bedsides are different and pay less. I won’t do a quarter job for less than 40 hours body and paint.
I wouldn't want my quarter panel be replaced over minor damage like this. Too many potential problem zones have been created now. From rust, to water collection, to inconsistent gaps (albeit small), to unequal/not same seam sealer beads. Just too small damage in my opinion to justify quarter swap
Amen bro. All the welding that corrosion will start no matter what you do. More mud in it from sectioning than repairing it. Plus it is only a VW which has the curse of the devil as far as reliability.
I can see you don't have sufficient knowledge as a buckle in a panel is more of a problem, if you wish to correct it with a pull and filler you're cheating your customer, a swap with the correct procedures should make a life time repair
Can't believe you replaced that panel for that little of damage I've seen some adjusters and shops pull some strings Shops making a ton of money and slipping off the adjuster a chunk of change for going along with it And people wonder why insurance rates are so high.
@@cumminsrocks1 Not me I've been doing body work 45yrs Seen butcher shops and adjuster's rip off the public Also I was hired by Farm Bureau to go behind adjusters and shops to uncover their scams That cost the public millions of dollars a year. So for you Morton educate yourself or play the game. My comment was to educate the public You don't have to use a direct repair shop. Ask the shop for a invoice of parts used and a visual of damaged parts that were supposed to be replaced. Stay in contact with your insurance throughout the repair process , Ask if there has been a supplement estimates And demand to see the damage before that repair has been done and invoice for those parts , Supplement estimates is where they get You , Supplement estimates And so called repairs are done without the customers knowledge And in Alot of cases are fabracated / meaning there is no damages But the insurance company still payed out As Long as they have an adjuster to ok it So go figure that out Moron.
Sounds like you work with a pull and fill shop, the structure weakens when there's a buckle replacement is necessary, review the video all procedures were done correctly as to the manufacturer with all data the only thing done differently was the sheet metal screws but even still this is a quality repair
@@erikcervantes1389 You have no idea what you're talking about 😂 1, this is not considered a structural. 2 , the screws were used for alignment and later removed. 3 , if you're gonna go through the trouble to change the panel , Why not section out the inner panel behind the wheel tubb that was bent up / but was covered up by the new panel. 4, at the start of the video you can hear him say , He caused the buckle himself while doing the pull-- which does happen sometimes , But could have been pdr or repaired with less filler than he uses changing the panel. 5 , and if you're worried about structural integrity ? If you'll notice he butt welded the panel in on the flats then filled over it with body filler . I'm not kicking the repair , He does Alot better than most shops I've seen. What I'm saying is he created more work than necessary , Which cost the insurance company, In return cost the customer. There's no way in hell I would have replaced that panel for that little damage. Do you understand now ?
What for? Its will rust right away. I would never do. Replacing parts doesn't need to match experience. That's what body shops usually do. Today all young guys just replacing parts. Very bad school.
@THE FBI You realize if 3M doesn't make it for a specific vehicle maker they don't endorse using their product, they will actually say to follow OEM. You can contact a 3M rep they will help. OEM procedures and products are always best to follow.
As a diy body guy it really makes me realize how hard a job like this is and to make it look good impressive work
Would be nice if you add a picture or two at the end to show end result when painted and or fully assembled. Great work! I learn a lot from you!
It's great seeing what I do everyday on UA-cam. 20 year collision tech here. What we do is so much more than pulling a dent with a toilet plunger and slapping bondo on it like most people assume or think. 😀
Kyle, you'll appreciate this. At 4:30 today I was at a point where I could go home for the weekend or start on an aluminum body F-150 bedside, I ground my first spr at 4:35 and at 5:45 I was putting my last rivet in and clamped my last Wurth clamp for panel bond areas to go home for the day. Booya baby gravy
Excellent job Kyle!
wow. such awesome work. the time it takes to to do this.
Thanks for your videos. I am learning to fix my own car. What is the purpose of black adhesive patch on the inner side of replacement quarter panel?
In some videos you welded reinforcement metal patch under quarter panel butt joints. In this video you didn't have it. When do you need to place it?
Why body adhesive is different for the gas tank area (white) and fender lip? Thank you a lot.
Good stuff!
I'm from the Solomon Islands 🇸🇧 and I just want to know the safety on how to weld near the fuel nozzle is it safe or what should I do first Thanks...
Hey my friend I have a question when it comes to using 3m panel bond instead of factory brand adhesive. Is it approved to use 08115 because I'm having issues with qc on a 2020 passat, thanks in advance your work is spot on by the way!
does anyone know how much this job would be to get done without insurance?
When is the best time to heat rails while pulling? Also is it safe to heat a rail near the gas tank while straightening
why some of the cars you add a backing plate before u weld? for this car you didnt. how do you decide which needs which doesnt?
Where can I buy that quarter how much was it and what is install price you think?
Where I'm trying to comprehend how do you know how to cut it with out cutting to deep.. kinda looks like your also cutting into the frame??
How did u seperate the laser welds??
How much does a repair like this cost?
Great work, I have a question from where you get new part prime?
Dealership
What's wrong with the old one???
Hey Kyle what’s your idea for sectioning at the dog leg versus the rocker out of curiosity?
First of all, it is a pleasure to see such good work. However, it would be better if you could restore the quarter panel. Since it doesn't make any sense to change a genuine part of a car when there is not much to do.
You would use filler the wrong way its a much safer and more correct way to repair the car also insurance dictates
It would have been too costly and a nightmare to repair. Plus the new panel was most likely an OEM part.
Lol you are going to tell Kyle what to do. The right call is to replace the quarter. Also there is more involved then just how the technician or the shop wants to repair something. The insurance company usually dictates that. As an example if you add too much repair time to a panel and insurance company sees it will be cheaper to replace it they will say you must replace it.
Please do one on a 05 gt there are none of entire panel. A lot of other guys would appreciate you currently doing myself
what type of putty you used for the first layer and second
It should 3m platinum plus filler and 3m finishing glaze
At 10:06 was this glass cleaner 🤣?
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How much for a repair like this?
All depends on the car. This is probably about $3500-$5000
What primer is that you apply to the back side
ECoat by SEM.
@@frostyriffs Why ? It is ecoated already.
@@johnnyshd8250 It seems like he’s gone the distance to cover his ass and do great work. He even matched the factory ECoat colour too. I worked at a place back in the late 90’s into the mid 2000’s where we would remove the crap primer on some new panels and primed them with high solid primer.
@@frostyriffs The factory uses ecoat. Why would you spend money on color match spray can primer if you wanted to look oem especially after all of the seam sealer joints are now destroyed ? As soon as you open the deck lid, you know somebody has been there already. Not a necessary step.
@@johnnyshd8250 you’re talking like I did it. Ask him.
How many hours did this took? Did you have to replace rear window to new one?
Insurance only pays to R and I. Probably 10 hours replace plus paint
@@johnnyshd8250 not true. This job is probably about 30-35 hours in body and about 10 in refinish.
@@johnnyshd8250 R/I is remove and install. This would be R/R remove and replace.
@@HackMasterBlaster It is true. Never got paid more than 14 hours to replace any quarter. Even a truck bedside only pays 11 hours. 2.5 hours outside refinish. .5 for the jamb. .8 up and over on the sail panel. 1.6 blend front door. .5 blend rocker. .8 r and i door handle and belt molding. Clear coat 2.5 hours. Rust proof .5. I came up with low 20s for hours. Plus p and m. You didn't have State Farm rewrite your estimate.Plus State Farm will want pics of blending rr door if you want to get paid for it.
@@johnnyshd8250 if you’re not getting at least 25 hours of body time to put a quarter panel on a car you need to look for a new job because your writers aren’t charging high enough. Yes bedsides are different and pay less. I won’t do a quarter job for less than 40 hours body and paint.
No laser welds on this one thank god!!
I wouldn't want my quarter panel be replaced over minor damage like this. Too many potential problem zones have been created now. From rust, to water collection, to inconsistent gaps (albeit small), to unequal/not same seam sealer beads. Just too small damage in my opinion to justify quarter swap
Amen bro. All the welding that corrosion will start no matter what you do. More mud in it from sectioning than repairing it. Plus it is only a VW which has the curse of the devil as far as reliability.
I can see you don't have sufficient knowledge as a buckle in a panel is more of a problem, if you wish to correct it with a pull and filler you're cheating your customer, a swap with the correct procedures should make a life time repair
If done properly and corrosion protection applied the panel is now better than stock in most cases.
@@TheRickjames215 uhm, no thanks. I'm fine with how it was when I bought it.
@@HristovRumen Once crushed. It's not how you bought it anymore anyway.
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Can't believe you replaced that panel for that little of damage
I've seen some adjusters and shops pull some strings
Shops making a ton of money and slipping off the adjuster a chunk of change for going along with it
And people wonder why insurance rates are so high.
@@cumminsrocks1
Not me I've been doing body work 45yrs
Seen butcher shops and adjuster's rip off the public
Also I was hired by
Farm Bureau to go behind adjusters and shops to uncover their scams That cost the public millions of dollars a year.
So for you Morton educate yourself or play the game.
My comment was to educate the public
You don't have to use a direct repair shop.
Ask the shop for a invoice of parts used and a visual of damaged parts that were supposed to be replaced.
Stay in contact with your insurance throughout the repair process , Ask if there has been a supplement estimates
And demand to see the damage before that repair has been done and invoice for those parts , Supplement estimates is where they get You , Supplement estimates
And so called repairs are done without the customers knowledge
And in Alot of cases are fabracated / meaning there is no damages But the insurance company still payed out As Long as they have an adjuster to ok it
So go figure that out
Moron.
Me either. Did it for 47 years and never heard of an insurance adjuster bribery plan. Maybe in the movies or something.
Sounds like you work with a pull and fill shop, the structure weakens when there's a buckle replacement is necessary, review the video all procedures were done correctly as to the manufacturer with all data the only thing done differently was the sheet metal screws but even still this is a quality repair
@@erikcervantes1389 You ate wrong. Buckles in a frame may warrant replacement , not non structural components.
@@erikcervantes1389
You have no idea what you're talking about 😂
1, this is not considered a structural.
2 , the screws were used for alignment
and later removed.
3 , if you're gonna go through the trouble to change the panel , Why not section out the inner panel behind the wheel tubb that was bent up / but was covered up by the new panel.
4, at the start of the video you can hear him say , He caused the buckle himself while doing the pull-- which does happen sometimes , But could have been pdr or repaired with less filler than he uses changing the panel.
5 , and if you're worried about structural integrity ? If you'll notice he butt welded the panel in on the flats then filled over it with body filler .
I'm not kicking the repair , He does Alot better than most shops I've seen.
What I'm saying is he created more work than necessary , Which cost the insurance company, In return cost the customer.
There's no way in hell I would have replaced that panel for that little damage.
Do you understand now ?
What for? Its will rust right away. I would never do. Replacing parts doesn't need to match experience. That's what body shops usually do. Today all young guys just replacing parts. Very bad school.
Wrong adhesive. VW uses their own brand not a 3m product.
@THE FBI You realize if 3M doesn't make it for a specific vehicle maker they don't endorse using their product, they will actually say to follow OEM. You can contact a 3M rep they will help. OEM procedures and products are always best to follow.
Why bother? It's gonna be in the scrapyard in a year or two..