I bought a cheap 2016 with 100 k miles I rebuild the engine and trany. I got 430 K miles in it now and still fly with gas prices am loving this small daily driver. Great job doing the rebuild.
I just did a teardown on a pop 1.4 i picked up for cheap!! blown head gasket but the rest of the car is immaculate! same prob with bolts, not a reverse thread,, I drilled the heads off, center punch them, start with a small bit then progress up.I used 3 different sizes..when you get close you will begin to see where the head and the shank meet, put the torx bit on and snapped is easy!! you will be able to remove the shank with you fingers!!!!go straight and slow, and use good bits!..this motor got really hot, sludgey oil and really burnt,,100k miles, bearings and journals were perfect!!and within spec..remarkable little engine.. good luck!!
I've got the 13 Dart SXT with this engine, im happy I finally get to see what the Inside of my engine looks like. I've been considered buying a used engine and doing a full rebuild on it and dropping it in my car, mine has 160k on it but the cars flawless inside and out so it'd be nice to give her a heart transplant to be sure she's good to go for a long time. What's the cost of the rebuild for you guys so far? Also, Im subscribing for sure now that I see the 80s turbo dodges in the back! I have a csx, chargers, omnis, a few Daytonas, a lancer and a few neons myself so I'm glad I found the channel bros!
nice to see a american work on this engine. Im from argentina. I got the 1.3 16v NA without the variable cam timing thing and these engine can easly pull 500000km without burning oil. Im planing on swap the 1.3 for this 1.4 engine. One thing i want to clarify that the engine you guys got was alredy open, that oil pickup isnt original.
This is a US spec engine. It's not 100% identical to the ROW spec engines. Parts suppliers can differ. What is true though is that these engines are very durable if serviced right.
Hey man, (and helper), thanks for the tear down. I just picked up a '12 Fiat 500 & am learning it. Been reading up on the engine, seems plenty durable. I've a non-turbo engine, but as far as I can tell, the non-turbo gets all the piston oil cooling goodies & same forged crank & rods as the turbo version. Only the compression ratio is different (well, & maybe the cam profile). I imagine the engine is stroked to its limit for as much low end torque possible. Honda likes that undersquare formula as well. I find it amusing it's called a 1.4. it's only 1368 cc. Not even a 1375, which would get it three quarters of the way to a 1.4. No, I call it a a big 1.3. A 1.3 plus, if you will.
ps, I was wrong about the non-turbo version. It gets a cast crankshaft & rods, not the forged as the turbo gets. Same with the oil squirters, etc., turbo only. But, cast is lighter than forged, so it benefits there, as well as still being balanced & a high compression ratio. I also see this engine has been replaced with the new 1.3, a fresh, all aluminum design.
I happen to have the twin cylinder version of this engine in my Alfa. Basically the same one, but cut halfway. The multi air unit is a very fragile piece, it’s a hassle.
awsome engine, the T-jet is a tad bit better does not have the sensitive multi air unit dont forget to change the filters in the mulit air unit Got a 1.4 n/a engine from a stilo gonna put the 1.2 16v head on it from a mk1 punto. 1.4 all have the same small stroker idea thing. wanting to go ITB's too
The T-jet and the Multiair are the exact same engine, the only thing to change from one another is the cylinder head which is a dual overhead camshaft for the T-jet. The belt-driven valvetrain mechanism is also the same (one belt-driven pulley that spins the exhaust camshaft) and the intake camshaft is moved by a gear coupling in the opposite side of the cylinder head.
I have a Fiat Stilo with this kind of engine. It's a 1.4 16v very similiar to the one you have. But mine is without the turbo stuff, just plain old naturally aspirated 90 hp motor. Those are really strong, never ever heard of a one that threw a rod or sth like it. But those have a big disadvantage which is just EATING OIL!!! So I'm not surprised you found oil in one of the cylinders. Valve stem seals go bad and the rings get stuck in the piston grooves, if oil isn't changed often. 6-8k miles should be the interval for oil changes.
I'll answer my own question. Both pumps come from the supplier you mentioned (I forget the name). And the oil pump is old school pressed in the block as was common with Chrysler cars of the '80s. The block also weighs 6 pounds lighter than the Polish version using Wisconsin iron. So there are some minute differences between the two blocks. But the American version is still a FIRE block all day long.
You guys are great. I hope you can help me with a problem. I was priming my 1.4 multiair brick by pumping oil into the ball port under the oil fill cap when the ball disappeared. The engine started and shot a stream or oil straight up to the hood. My question is where did that ball valve go and will it hurt anything being in the engine? If it were any other engine it would end up in the oil pan not sure on this one. I can plug the port from the top so I am not worried about that. Any help would be great.
This seems identical to the 1,368 cc F.I.R.E Engine of Fiat. I own a vehicle that uses this Engine. Not too refined, but old school, and I guess reliable. Tell me how the repair works go. I'd like to know what were the parts you replaced, and which were the parts that wore out. What was the last ODO reading on the engine before it was taken off anyway? I'm just curious, very intrigued, and genuinely interested. Thanks a ton!!!
It is a F.I.R.E engine with the multiair valve actuation unit added. Basically the cylinder head is the only major difference to a regular F.I.R.E engine, or more accurately to the T-Jet variants of it. You even use the same cam timing gear on this unit even though the regular T-Jet has a twin cam setup and the Multiair has electrohydraulic valves on the intake side.
Can you guess how much power it will lose if someone delete the Turbo? Also is it okay the Alminium block with iron block? why they didnt just use same material?
I have a fiat 500 1.4 none turbo sport , ofton wondered about the engine now at least I seen it first hand.Does it seem like I a motor that would last ?
@@YostBuilt just bought a punto evo 1.4 multiair NA and hope its gonna last long! Any tips for maintenance? mine is a 2011 with 75k miles, fully serviced and all.
Did you check if those two bolts are reverse bolts? I'm just saying because it seems common for European car manufacturers nowadays to play these "tricks"... Cough cough... BMW B58... Cough
I bought a cheap 2016 with 100 k miles I rebuild the engine and trany. I got 430 K miles in it now and still fly with gas prices am loving this small daily driver. Great job doing the rebuild.
Damn that's a lot!!
I´m italian, i´ve a 1.4 T Multiair. Thank you so much for this video. Now i know WHATS INSIDE MY FIAT!
Your welcome
I have this engine in my Alfa Mito QV (turbo/170 hp). 140k kms. Fun engine. Runs like new.
I just did a teardown on a pop 1.4 i picked up for cheap!! blown head gasket but the rest of the car is immaculate! same prob with bolts, not a reverse thread,, I drilled the heads off, center punch them, start with a small bit then progress up.I used 3 different sizes..when you get close you will begin to see where the head and the shank meet, put the torx bit on and snapped is easy!! you will be able to remove the shank with you fingers!!!!go straight and slow, and use good bits!..this motor got really hot, sludgey oil and really burnt,,100k miles, bearings and journals were perfect!!and within spec..remarkable little engine.. good luck!!
I've got the 13 Dart SXT with this engine, im happy I finally get to see what the Inside of my engine looks like. I've been considered buying a used engine and doing a full rebuild on it and dropping it in my car, mine has 160k on it but the cars flawless inside and out so it'd be nice to give her a heart transplant to be sure she's good to go for a long time. What's the cost of the rebuild for you guys so far? Also, Im subscribing for sure now that I see the 80s turbo dodges in the back! I have a csx, chargers, omnis, a few Daytonas, a lancer and a few neons myself so I'm glad I found the channel bros!
nice to see a american work on this engine. Im from argentina. I got the 1.3 16v NA without the variable cam timing thing and these engine can easly pull 500000km without burning oil. Im planing on swap the 1.3 for this 1.4 engine. One thing i want to clarify that the engine you guys got was alredy open, that oil pickup isnt original.
Really?
@@YostBuilt yea. The original oil pump got the Lancia logo on it
I have a 500 Abarth with one (Euro version) with 170hp and 300 nm torque. Its on 108k miles and uses next to no oil.
This is a US spec engine. It's not 100% identical to the ROW spec engines. Parts suppliers can differ. What is true though is that these engines are very durable if serviced right.
Hey man, (and helper), thanks for the tear down. I just picked up a '12 Fiat 500 & am learning it. Been reading up on the engine, seems plenty durable. I've a non-turbo engine, but as far as I can tell, the non-turbo gets all the piston oil cooling goodies & same forged crank & rods as the turbo version. Only the compression ratio is different (well, & maybe the cam profile). I imagine the engine is stroked to its limit for as much low end torque possible. Honda likes that undersquare formula as well. I find it amusing it's called a 1.4. it's only 1368 cc. Not even a 1375, which would get it three quarters of the way to a 1.4. No, I call it a a big 1.3. A 1.3 plus, if you will.
ps, I was wrong about the non-turbo version. It gets a cast crankshaft & rods, not the forged as the turbo gets. Same with the oil squirters, etc., turbo only. But, cast is lighter than forged, so it benefits there, as well as still being balanced & a high compression ratio. I also see this engine has been replaced with the new 1.3, a fresh, all aluminum design.
I happen to have the twin cylinder version of this engine in my Alfa. Basically the same one, but cut halfway. The multi air unit is a very fragile piece, it’s a hassle.
awsome engine, the T-jet is a tad bit better does not have the sensitive multi air unit dont forget to change the filters in the mulit air unit
Got a 1.4 n/a engine from a stilo gonna put the 1.2 16v head on it from a mk1 punto. 1.4 all have the same small stroker idea thing. wanting to go ITB's too
ill.have to look a tjet up
@@YostBuilt can't wait to see the work you guys gonna do on the multi-air ❤️
The T-jet and the Multiair are the exact same engine, the only thing to change from one another is the cylinder head which is a dual overhead camshaft for the T-jet. The belt-driven valvetrain mechanism is also the same (one belt-driven pulley that spins the exhaust camshaft) and the intake camshaft is moved by a gear coupling in the opposite side of the cylinder head.
Also the T-jet (turbocharged) has fixed valve timing and lift.
I was freaking out. It looked like a new long block until you took the head off. I was wondering why you were taking it apart until then.
I have a Fiat Stilo with this kind of engine. It's a 1.4 16v very similiar to the one you have. But mine is without the turbo stuff, just plain old naturally aspirated 90 hp motor. Those are really strong, never ever heard of a one that threw a rod or sth like it. But those have a big disadvantage which is just EATING OIL!!! So I'm not surprised you found oil in one of the cylinders. Valve stem seals go bad and the rings get stuck in the piston grooves, if oil isn't changed often. 6-8k miles should be the interval for oil changes.
I have a broken 1.4l non turbo that the timing belt broke. Can I use the turbo engine parts to fix my non turbo engine?
No follow up?
Is it possible to prepare a 1.4 16v multiair 105 s&s atmo engine and install a turbo? on a Fiat punto ?
I see a Neon and a Daytona in the bay! Cool!
Thank you for what felt like a life saving message.
Same here. I want a Fiat 124 Spider but am worried about reliability.
Amazing how many American parts are on this engine, as with the oil pump. I wonder who supplies the water pump ?
I'll answer my own question. Both pumps come from the supplier you mentioned (I forget the name). And the oil pump is old school pressed in the block as was common with Chrysler cars of the '80s. The block also weighs 6 pounds lighter than the Polish version using Wisconsin iron. So there are some minute differences between the two blocks. But the American version is still a FIRE block all day long.
I have a non turbo 1.4l that recently broke the timing and got messed up. Can I replace what I need from a working 1.4l turbo?
Hi can you help me get a 6 speed gearbox for my 2009 bravo2 198 with the 1.4T-Jet motor
Broken or fracture-split?
Into the Fiat, but also into the Jeep Renegade 1.4T which I have.
I like those little jeeps ...
You guys are great. I hope you can help me with a problem. I was priming my 1.4 multiair brick by pumping oil into the ball port under the oil fill cap when the ball disappeared. The engine started and shot a stream or oil straight up to the hood. My question is where did that ball valve go and will it hurt anything being in the engine? If it were any other engine it would end up in the oil pan not sure on this one. I can plug the port from the top so I am not worried about that. Any help would be great.
id suggest ..pulling the lower oil pan and seeing if it made it down! ! the oil pickup can catch it too!
thanks for this video
This seems identical to the 1,368 cc F.I.R.E Engine of Fiat. I own a vehicle that uses this Engine. Not too refined, but old school, and I guess reliable. Tell me how the repair works go. I'd like to know what were the parts you replaced, and which were the parts that wore out. What was the last ODO reading on the engine before it was taken off anyway? I'm just curious, very intrigued, and genuinely interested. Thanks a ton!!!
Fiat engines seem to have similar designs and finding parts is hard in the states
It is a F.I.R.E engine with the multiair valve actuation unit added. Basically the cylinder head is the only major difference to a regular F.I.R.E engine, or more accurately to the T-Jet variants of it. You even use the same cam timing gear on this unit even though the regular T-Jet has a twin cam setup and the Multiair has electrohydraulic valves on the intake side.
Like to see more
Is this the motor that comes with jeep renegades 1.4 Turbo?
Can you guess how much power it will lose if someone delete the Turbo?
Also is it okay the Alminium block with iron block? why they didnt just use same material?
with no turbo ...id guess 60 whp
@@YostBuilt thanks.
Did you try heat on those bolts?
As far as internals go, are there any differences between the n/a 1.4 and the turbo one on the abarth?
turbo piston and rods are stronger
@@YostBuilt thanks
And also different valves and camshafts + piston oil cooling - and more. If you want to do turbo stuff, use an original turbo engine as a base.
I have a fiat turbo with that engine think it has 135 hp like to see what 300 would be like
dude thats cool thanks for show us the goods!
this is a odd motor for sure
I have a fiat 500 1.4 none turbo sport , ofton wondered about the engine now at least I seen it first hand.Does it seem like I a motor that would last ?
built very well ... without a turbo it should last a very long time
@@YostBuilt just bought a punto evo 1.4 multiair NA and hope its gonna last long! Any tips for maintenance? mine is a 2011 with 75k miles, fully serviced and all.
I've seen several 1.4 Multiair engines over 200k miles and some over 250k miles. In fact I've never heard of one that died because of mileage alone.
I’m struggeling to remove the front cap that hold the camshaft, the one closest to the cam pulley. Any tips?
Rubber hammer
Is that engine reliable?
Mine was. It was in tip top condition with 90k miles before a jeep totaled it. I loved the car.
Did you check if those two bolts are reverse bolts? I'm just saying because it seems common for European car manufacturers nowadays to play these "tricks"... Cough cough... BMW B58... Cough
I didn't and i should have now that i think about it
i have a n/a fiat and i want to turbo it , got any advice 2012 fiat 500 pop
Ive never looked into the pops so i dont even know what mods are available for u
Just get a full engine out of an Abarth. Or better yet, buy an Abarth. It will be cheaper in the long run to do that.
We often say here..
"Small in the eye but big on the bed"
😂🤣😂🤣 ive never heard that
@@YostBuiltits a greek thing 😂😂
Is this an interference motor? I have one that jumped time
Yes
I see a CSX hiding there…
Hi Can someone help me find a gearbox for my 198 bravo2 the number on the gearbox is CFC300F.01 selespeed 6
I love how Americans say "FIAT"!
do we say it wrong?
@@YostBuilt not that you say it wrong, it just sound funny. Nice vid man
A great problem of this motor is a ecu electronic and bad maintenance