You know! I sooo agree with this title! I think the BB31-41 in general are so underrated. Loving the new “5 link” bracelet… definitely nothing jubilee. 😜💕 awesome review as always!
The thing that noone talks about with the new BB36 or 39 range is how they made the case sides rounder like the Rolex Oyster case. I like it alot more than the slab style case on the previous gen BB36 that I have.
My favourite Tudor release this year has to be the new BB 36 in blue. I do feel like they ruined the black dial by going with gilt though... but each their own I guess!
I kinda feel that they ruined them all unfortunately. I loved the old blue and was actually waiting on the updated clasp and movement to buy it. But now I am not interested in it. And it's not just the color, idk why but the proportions of dial bezel and indices seem different - might just be the videos though, idk Edit: oh and I loved the oyster bracelet and the old crown. Jubilee is great as well, but with the round indices I dont think it works as great. Oyster was certainly sportier and better for a do-it-all watch (imo, obviously). I feel that this new one is way dressier. What I wanted was really just the clasp and movement updated while keeping everything else the same. I now fear that they'll also change the 58 when they finally give it the T fit clasp.
@@tiagodvt I don’t think your eyes are deceiving you! Handset has changed and I’m pretty sure dial elements got a bit smaller in addition to the removal of that famous “self winding” text.
GADA watches I think are for people that are not into different watches but just want one watch that tells the time accurately and will suit all occasions that they never have to think about or take off the wrist. This is the perfect watch for that. Watch collectors will never be satisfied with just one watch no matter how nice.It’s like an addiction.
GADA watches are for people who want a quality watch but have other financial obligations and interests. If one has $5k to spend, is it better to have 1X $5k watch or 3X $1.5k watches?
You can get a couple of these types and rotate them around. I've got an Explorer I and just picked up the champagne dial for this model and it's a great two watch combo.
I’ve just bought this watch for my wedding watch. In person the dial is incredibly beautiful, I was next door to the Seiko AD and I preferred it to all the grand seiko dials. For me it’s perfect as a wedding watch, I can wear it with anything in the future and not have to feel too dressed up or down.
Not everyone wants a huge collection of watches from various shapes, sizes and colors. Some people are very complex in a simple way in their styling choices. For example I only collect GADA watches with slight subtle differences from one another. To me these GADA type watches feel more mature and more timeless. Also, when I resell my watches it's way easier for me to sell GADA watches than other types of watches.
Maybe one thing overlooked in Max’s assessment of GADA watches is that for some collectors, we just like GADA watches as a specific style choice, and not so much as a one and done. I own four “GADA” watches, and each one does something different for me, be it functionality like an adjustable hour hand, or just plane aesthetics. Great review - I’m about two months into a new BB39 S&G “gray” dial with the jubilee and chunky clasp. I love this watch, but it gets competition from my Globemaster and AT, and maybe not as much but still some competition for my Tissot Gentleman. Regardless of my thoughts, Max is spot on regarding those who might want a watch that does a specific thing - I totally get that, but again my taste go for the GADA, but not just one GADA, I guess…!
I agree and would go even further: I feel like i'm wearing a costume when wearing a dress-watch. That is clearly not who i am... but a metall-GADA watch like bb36, Sinn556... are sporty, masculin but still elegant. To wear it with a hoody and leatherjacket and later in the evening with an elegant shirt just tells me that this watch truly belongst to me and i'm not using it to give an impression about myself... if that makes any sense..
Ditto that. I'm not particularly interested in sport watches either. I just want a good looking watch, that I can dress up or down, with a metal bracelet added to the collection (all of my watches have leather straps). Black Bay ticks all the boxes.@@aljoschawolff4069
I like a GADA that borders a little more on the dressy side. That way I have a formal watch and a nice watch for casual occassions. Perhaps with a little extra flair to keep things interesting. I find that the GADA category is especially useful for travel where I don't want to carry multiple watches with me
You miss the whole point of a GADA watch. It does not replace a diver. It does replace a dress watch. It doesn’t replace a tool watch etc. GADA is capable of doing anything, but it doesn’t replace everything. How often do people wear a dress watch? To me dress watches are a waste as you only wear them so often depending to your needs. For me anyway. Yes most watch collectors do want GADA watches. As you become more as a seasoned collector, you will find your collection shrinking a little bit. Then that is where a GADA watch comes in.
@@eustab.anas-mann9510I'd argue if you're selling watches then it's not a collection, it's your stock. A collection is just that, it's part of the hobby. If you don't partake in this hobby, which most people don't, then you don't have a collection, as simple as that.
You’re so right about GADA watches. I can see this being someone’s first luxury watch but as they get deeper into the hobby, they will probably be more intentional with their purchases and end up purchasing purpose built watches which is the sickness we all have 😂. Also, it was great running into at Windup in SF and seeing you test drive the BB39!
I have 6 or 7 "nicer' watches including perhaps the paradigmatic GADA a Rolex Explorer I. But if I had to go down to one and done it would be my GS Skyflake. 100M WR, 72 hour PR, hyper accurate nicely finished movement visible behind an open casebook. Dressy on leather, sporty on a steel bracelet, rubber or Nato, and easy to change with drilled lugs. It has useful date and PR complications, but perhaps most importantly it is simply beautiful to look at which separates from the more typical utilitarian looking GADAs. Therefore it remains to me as a piece of performative jewelry that can stand the test of time. #2 on the list (for another time), my 37mm Rhodium Yachtmaster.
These have long been a staple of customizers in the Seiko world who want a dressy version of the SKX. Now if only they’d get to branching out into other colors. A white, and matte black, and a few colors would be a real draw.
Love the new BB 39mm, could be my second Gada watch beside my black Sinn 556i. Those two could be the everyday black and blue base of my small collection. The more dressier models in my collection like my Junghans Max Bill handwind or my Longines Dolce Vita are for special occasions, my Longines HydroConquest as my first real watch will stay as well as a kind of beater watch
Ironic how the only people singing the praises of a GADA watch are collectors who get choice paralysis when staring at their watch box 🤣 Let’s be honest, GADA is just another slot in the watch box. I think the closest thing I can relate to GADA is a travel watch. I’m going backpacking in South America and only taking the Tudor Ranger on a strap and I have no doubt it’ll suit every situation I find myself in. As for the new bezeless BBs, I think they’ve got too expensive and too “shiny”. Definitely leaning more dressy and less versatile.
Quite cheesed that we’ll never see the old bb36 in a 39mm. Was hoping for that flat blue dial with the old chunky hands on an oyster bracelet. It’s too bad that they nuked the flat dial colors and oysters on these.
To each their own , I have found out throughout my life sometimes we need better perspective. I will never again fall deep in a hobby where I lose the point . Seen it and experienced it you get so bored you look for reasons to get excited about something 95% of people could careless or even notice the difference but you and like a few others dudes can lol . Thank you for this video I never considered a Tudor but this one is simple and elegant just what I’m looking for .
My entire collection is Go Anywhere Do Anything and i couldn’t disagree with you more. Not a fan of single purpose watches or gimmicks. Think space, deep sea, racing, field, James Bond etc. Gimme an OP36 any day over a speedmaster
In my experience, a GADA watch is more about versatility than being a one watch collection. Watch collectors seem to want watches that fit their lifestyle and the different situations they will encounter. I love the changes to this line. This watch is a great addition to a collection, even if it's your only watch.
As my collection grows, I understand the problem with GADA watches - which my 1998 Tag 2000 is. You don't wear them simply because you have others to wear. GADA is designed for one-and-done, and for muppets like us, that's the exact opposite of what we want. We want to change our watch daily, regardless of events (at least I do). Why have 6 watches if you only wear one? If you are going to collect, get very different, specific pieces you'll say "oh, yes, today it's my Hamilton PSR for sure" - etc. If you want one great watch, get a GADA for sure.
I'm the owner of the previous generation bb36 blue dial and it has quietly been the most enjoyable watch I've ever owned. Whenever i consider throwing something else on it just doesn't hit the same notes. I already have my eyes on the new champagne dial 36 as a slightly fancier but hopefully just as versatile addition to the family. Can't wait to see it in person. Still hasn't showed up at area dealers.
To me its the tudor royal that is the underdog. The bb36 / 41 gets way more attention. The royal makes a better gada watch imo as the bb36 is a diver with reduced specs and no bezel. By contrast the royal can be sporty or dressy and yet still has 100m WR.
Max I gotta say I did not like this release! It seems like with the ranger rerelease Tudor are now pushing the bb36-39 to be an aquaterra/date just alternative, and I just wish it was more of a field watch look like it used to be. Feels like it’s just a completely different watch than it used to be. It’s also 150% of the price it was 1 year ago now! If this was the same black dial and oyster bracelet with an in-house I would have been perfect imo
just wished they still did the old black and blue glossy dials. I loved the previous gen models, but couldn't get passed the crown. Now they've fixed the crown but removed the best part of the watch, the dial! personally prefer the old bracelet, suits the tooly aspect of the watch, the jubilee (sorry 5 link) is just too bling/dressy.
Ok, now hear me out: Would the jubilee bracelet of the Black Bay 39 fit on the Black Bay 54? Dream scenario would be for Tudor to straight up offer the 54 on this stunning jubilee, but I wouldn't bet on that ever happening, so I was wondering if the bracelet is interchangeable... Best solution would probably to to wait for Uncle Seiko (I think they're called Uncle Straps now) to release a Jubilee bracelet for the Black Bay 54 and then just use the T-fit clasp from whichever OME Tudor bracelet you go with.
Firstly, the 36mm rather than 39mm would be the epitome of the "gada" watch for me. Secondly, for those of us who otherwise exclusively collect vintage watches, a modern "gada" watch can fill a very specific and non-generalist niche, i.e. that of the non-vintage watch. I would buy this watch specifically for the modern watch features, i.e. silicone hairspring, water resistance, lume etc. So this watch might be the perfect single non-vintage watch for the experienced vintage watch collector.
Awesome vid. I see your point about GADA watches but there’s also something special behind owning a GADA watch. As it spends more time on your wrist it also builds up memory with you and over time will mean a lot to you. Sentimental value. Of course also over time as you said you may also get bored of it with its simple design. Just have fun. Don’t over think it. Life is short
Also my favorite tudor release is the chocolate royal which nobody else seems to care about so hopefully I can get a good deal on one. My 1926 S&G is my favorite watch so I'm not really a BB sort
I've got 2 main complaints with this watch. Firstly the price is too high. Secondly they should have given it a regular hour hand and all stick markers. Effectively a bargain Datejust. For the record, I'm a massive Datejust 36 fan.
It’s a matter of the mind. Nothing will be perfect in the brain of an avid collector. They are always lusting after their new aspiration or acquisition while simultaneously envying those who land on a watch for life. I still hunt for watches but seldom pull the trigger as nothing could satisfy me like my vintage Rolex GMT.
I somewhat disagree about this watch not being a specialist... But only somewhat. Is this watch one that can be worn by most people at all times? Absolutely, but the question is this: is that reality a function of the watch's design or of changes in human behavior and societal expectations? My supposition is that it's more of the latter than you're giving credit for. What I'm saying is that this watch is actually a pure sports watch and not a dress watch at all. The only reason this watch works in all situations is because most people don't actually participate in activities where formal dress is expected as frequently as most people used to, and, in addition to that, activities themselves are becoming less formal in their expectations. People are dressing more casually at all times, at home, at work, at gatherings of all types. In other words, formal dress has become more of a choice than an expectation. So is this watch formal? I don't think so. It's just that nobody really cares any more. That said... It's definitely a bit shiny and fancy for a sports watch. But there's plenty of precedent for that. The Rolex Explorer is the easy comparison with it's polished sloped bezel. I think what this watch is, is a sports watch that differentiates by looking a bit fancier than normal. And honestly, I like that, _if_ it's used for its intended purpose. If I saw somebody wearing this while actually sporting and not being concerned with scratching it up, I'd give them maximum street cred. But somebody who wears this during the day at the office and takes it off before going hiking or whatever, ehh, it's a fine watch for that but it feels like you're babying it too much if you don't ding it up. And if you're not willing to do that, you might as well buy something more delicate. Basically I think it's cool when people aren't afraid to use their shiny expensive luxury sports pieces for their intended purpose. That just doesn't happen that often. This watch is like a Porsche: it's a beautifully built sports car, but it's just expensive enough that often times people are afraid to use it. It's just not an RS model though because there's plenty of more expensive more focused watches that people are still afraid to beat up. This watch is a mid trim level Porsche Cayman. More people are willing to use those because they're more attainable, but they're still enough of a luxury that it's tempting to baby it.
This generation of updated BB might appeal to the current market, which seems to favor trendy pale colors and a bit of bling...still the basics design is best presented in the discontinued BB36. Neither the jubilee or the switch to a lollipop seconds hands do improve on the design. Not a bad watch overall but not great either. Got me a BB36 black when I realized Tudor axed this model.
Totally agree, that's why I sold my Explorer I 214270 MK2, I replaced it with a Grand Seiko SBGA301 and couldnt be happier. I just thought the Explorer didnt fit my collection. I still have my Zenith Chronomaster, Cartier Tank MC, Omega SMP Diver, IWC Spitfire to cherish 😊. Cheers from Mexico 🇲🇽
I think the new BB smooth bezel line looks great, but I do agree somewhat. Also it is more hybrid than ever before. the old BB smooth bezel was a an explorer or OP substitute with its lacquer blue or black dial and oyster-style bracelet. Adding in the 5-link bracelet and sunburst dial moves it into a hybrid-OP (sunburst dial but with a 5-link) or dateless smooth-bezel DJ, which is a cool but odd combo. and with the ranger also being an explorer 39 alternative, the new BB smooth bezel moves away from being the explorer alternative. I too would rather have more specific watches for certain functions/complications/occasions than the do-it-all. I'd still choose the DJ 36, an OP, or an explorer over this since those provide certain uses while this is trying to be a combo of them.
Definitely an underappreciated model. The previous 41 had a nice dial but the 41mm size and bracelet option wasn't to my liking. However, the new 39mm 5 link bracelet is a definite buy for me.
I was eyeing the BB54 but the AD said the wait list is quite long. He suggested I have a look at the BB36, so I did. Left the store with the BB36 S&G with no regrets!
I have a new BB41 and I love it. I can’t take it off even when I’m sleeping. It is perfect for almost any occasion and I wear it at work while I wear a suit.
GADA watches are nice to have. I believe having a balance is key to a collection (3 watches or more). I go by how it makes you feel and how you would like to style your watch.
There is one important thing about GADA watches and that's why I love my Aqua Terra 38: they are certified strap monsters, they go well with all leather, rubber or fancy NATO straps. You couldn't do this with a dress watch could you? :)
Hi Max, thank you for the insight/review of this watch. I've finally made the decision to purchase this actuel Tudor model. Thank you so much to make me do it! By the way, awsome UA-cam channel! Greets from Belgium 😎👍
Great video. And you put your finger right on the same spot that I arrived at yesterday, when trying on the BB54 (again)… I think it’s a near perfect watch, however I just don’t know when I would wear it ! I suspect you’re right in that it’s probably a result of being spoiled for choice with the GADA watches I already own. And whilst I keep flirting with the idea of buying one, does this mean that I will never buy a Tudor ? If anything, the smaller size is a reason why I would opt for the BB54 and take the plunge. I already own an Explorer I (39mm) and consequently see little/no reason to go down the route of this BB39. But the point you make is very valid… have I reached my ‘watch saturation point’ ?
I have a baltic hermétique 37mm, yema superman héritage 39mm, yema wristmaster micro rotor 39mm, and the bb36 blue. I'm done. 4 watches, différents style. Love them all
You’re right. A GADA watch is the gatekeeper at the entrance of the watch-collecting rabbit hole. Once you get deep into the levels of Rolex, Lange, Vacheron, you’re so deep into the rabbit hole that you always turn to a custom-purpose watch suited for each occasion.
You don’t need to be able to afford Rolex, Lange, Vacheron to get deep into collecting watches and go beyond GADA models. Seiko, Tissot, Hamilton, and many other brands offer great specialist watches that most people can afford.
I agree totally, great video. Spot on. At $4000 with a in house movement, awesome bracelet with adjustable clasp and GADA looks hits the sweet spot just right. Omega could learn a thing or two with the bracelet. Yes we want a watch for all occasions.
Unpopular opinion - I think Tudor made a mistake putting the 2023 releases on a jubilee. I know everyone is jubilee-crazy these days, but the jubilee doesn't really make sense on tool watches. I reckon Tudor should just make a Datejust alternative and add the fluted/engine turn bezel.
This might be a great “holidays watch” though. I mean, I have a sizable collection but mostly Rolexes. I live in Switzerland and I can (still) wear them without worrying. Since I like the Rolex design language, I could see myself pick one this up for vacations, when I go to less safe countries. It looks robust enough to withstand some mild adventures, casual enough for city strolls and dressy/stylish enough for the night out… it’s actually a good compromise considering all the specifications, including size and all. I might actually grab the blue one for my vacations this year
I was out in the wild and saw a very lovely older lady wearing the new black pay 36 in that same dial color on the five link bracelet. It looked absolutely amazing on her.
The MORE that anything I own can do... the better. If my watch(or anything) can't be dressed up or dressed down... I'm NOT interested. I'm not going to drop thousands of dollars on anything that is only an "occasional" wear. It's a waste of money and doesn't fit my life style. I actually don't like Rolex, but do like Tudor... Yes I know same owners, but vastly different marketing strategies and customer service. My preference is the Black Bay M79230B-0008 41mm with the white hand set, and matt blue anodised aluminium Bezel insert. Has the retro signed crown with the Tudor rose, Domed sapphire crystal, and Rivet bracelet... A modern retro look(LoL), the best of both worlds.
I see why I disagree with you on this one and GADA watches in general; speedy’s are definitely a Saturday watch. A GADA watch is perfect for Thursday when you dont have any meetings but will be going out for cocktail hour after a day at the office. Blends the two environments as effortlessly as rolling up your sleeves and taking off the tie.
Tudor is a homage brand. Simply copying designs from 70 years ago... 1 mm here and there and dozens of content creators get all new videos to make and gush over the "creativity". You even said it yourself... "the side profile resembles the rolex oyster"... as does the bracelet, dial furniture, etc etc etc...
For me a GADA watch has to have a date - elegantly executed (it IS possible) - but if you’re a no-date person wanting a long PR, personally I would steer away from the hype brands, a category Tudor has joined, and look at something like a Farer Erebus II (£895) three-hander with its La Joux-Perret movement with 68hrs PR and forego paying the ever-increasing brand tax.
Can any of you watch reviewers just stop talking about Rolex, Tudor or omega????? Please! So cliche and boring already.. enough is enough! There are thousand of thousand of Watch brands out there and all you can talk about is these 3 flex or watch snobs favourite topics…. You said you don’t like watch snob but you’re a hypocrite! That’s why I would not and many of my WatchFam won’t join your WatchCrunch! Yeah, no watch snob eh! Whatever! Go buy more Rolex then! Yeah, you’re just not a watch snob…. IWC, Tudor, Grand Seiko, Rolex…. Oh but you have a Gshock so that is your jailfree card to prove you’re not a watch snob.. 😂 Producer Michael owns couple gshock too, he is just like any of our next door neighbours right? You can’t afford a Maserati… sure, Doctor, you mean you might not about you just get the latest limited edition yet you mean? Or maybe because you only Ferrari instead? You only own True Italian sport cars right? Maserati is too cheap for you I bet!
Why buying a watch like this? Everyone will ask you: Oh is that a datejust??? and you'll be: oh no its Tudor. A what? A Tudor, it's a sub-brand of Rolex and so on... So no.I, and it's my opinion for me, people should wear what they like. I only say why i don't like it. and if you ask me how can i buy Rolex, you can't. I buy this cause its available. Well ill buy a Seiko with similar design awesome watch and cheaper
The Issue for me is The Rolex explorer is where my heart is and if I dont get it. ill spend just as much trying to fill that void overtime with different watches that will not satisfy.
This is a downgrade!! I have the ETA version, bought pre-owned after this was released. The dial is infinitely nicer, the bracelet is better and the water resistance is higher and the watch is STUNNING. I wouldn't trade it for the world, let alone a worse version of itself! Tudor fumbled the ball.
Forget this symmetry nonsense, if it had a date it would be perfect, but then it would compete with the datejust, so nada. A DAILY NEEDS A DATE!! im my humble opinion.
IMHO a GADA Watch Requires a Date. so as much as this watch looks good it doesn't pass as a GADA. the do everything part as an example your work place requires signing and dating Forms or books several times a day. Should be able to glance over at your watch and check the date. not seeing a date every glance over will slowly disappoint alot of people i would imagine. and before anyone mentions "just look at your phone" or "glance at your computer screen", i work as a mechanic and have to fill in customer service books while sitting in a car. Pulling out your phone everytime gets VERY annoying.
Sorry but i think all Tudors are overrated. Also the new ones are... smaller...and... yeah.. Black Bay 54 not 58 but ..smaller and still boring...and...nothing new. I get it they are not ugly but at this price point i expect more innovation. It's just not mine.
I can't wait for this current sunburst dial phase to be over. It makes everything look like a cheap mall watch 🤢🤢🤮 The design is all over the place: tool head with a dressy sunburst dial. Everyday proportions with a dress bracelet. Diver markers matched with a dress CMF. It's a total mess of a design; it doesn't know what it's trying to be.
The most annoying feature of Tudor watches is the obtuse-angled hour hand. All serious watch manufacturers have a sharp hand pointing to a point, a point in time, Grand Seiko, Rollex, Omega and so on. Only Tudor does not have a sharp tip at the end of the hand and it is unclear why they put a square on it. If this is an attempt to show off to be unique, it is clearly a failed attempt. I would like it if instead of a square there would be, e.g., an arrow like Omega Moon watches. Design should be smart, not dumb. Unique stupidity is not the right solution
This is not even close to an Explorer or AT. The dial indices are just wrong. It does wear comfortably though but I just couldn't live with the round indices. It's like a half diver dial. So I sold mine
Supposed "GADA" watches are dull. I have one and rarely get's worn BUT it has a role. It's for moments when you want a watch to be totally inconspicuous.
Get deeper on WatchCrunch: www.watchcrunch.com/Max/posts/do-you-actually-want-a-gada-watch-34407
You know! I sooo agree with this title! I think the BB31-41 in general are so underrated. Loving the new “5 link” bracelet… definitely nothing jubilee. 😜💕 awesome review as always!
It's such a pretty watch now! Absolutely Britt 😊
U shoud both date
When watch review celebrities talk to each other in public 🔥
I've just seen one of these in person. I think it's low key nicer than my Pelagos 39.
Just meet already
The thing that noone talks about with the new BB36 or 39 range is how they made the case sides rounder like the Rolex Oyster case. I like it alot more than the slab style case on the previous gen BB36 that I have.
Yes and a normal crown too.
My favourite Tudor release this year has to be the new BB 36 in blue. I do feel like they ruined the black dial by going with gilt though... but each their own I guess!
The blue is so nice too 👍
I kinda feel that they ruined them all unfortunately. I loved the old blue and was actually waiting on the updated clasp and movement to buy it. But now I am not interested in it. And it's not just the color, idk why but the proportions of dial bezel and indices seem different - might just be the videos though, idk
Edit: oh and I loved the oyster bracelet and the old crown. Jubilee is great as well, but with the round indices I dont think it works as great. Oyster was certainly sportier and better for a do-it-all watch (imo, obviously). I feel that this new one is way dressier. What I wanted was really just the clasp and movement updated while keeping everything else the same. I now fear that they'll also change the 58 when they finally give it the T fit clasp.
@@tiagodvt I don’t think your eyes are deceiving you! Handset has changed and I’m pretty sure dial elements got a bit smaller in addition to the removal of that famous “self winding” text.
@@kettusnuhveli yes I feel that that is true. Would be cool to see them side by side.
I love how the jubilee bracelets hide or limit the scratchable surface
GADA watches I think are for people that are not into different watches but just want one watch that tells the time accurately and will suit all occasions that they never have to think about or take off the wrist. This is the perfect watch for that. Watch collectors will never be satisfied with just one watch no matter how nice.It’s like an addiction.
Totally 💯
GADA watches are for people who want a quality watch but have other financial obligations and interests. If one has $5k to spend, is it better to have 1X $5k watch or 3X $1.5k watches?
You can get a couple of these types and rotate them around. I've got an Explorer I and just picked up the champagne dial for this model and it's a great two watch combo.
Exactly
This describes me.
I’ve just bought this watch for my wedding watch. In person the dial is incredibly beautiful, I was next door to the Seiko AD and I preferred it to all the grand seiko dials.
For me it’s perfect as a wedding watch, I can wear it with anything in the future and not have to feel too dressed up or down.
which size do you bought ?
Thanks! I´m thinking of making this my wedding watch as well.
Not everyone wants a huge collection of watches from various shapes, sizes and colors. Some people are very complex in a simple way in their styling choices. For example I only collect GADA watches with slight subtle differences from one another. To me these GADA type watches feel more mature and more timeless. Also, when I resell my watches it's way easier for me to sell GADA watches than other types of watches.
Great points 👍
Thats not "complex in a simple way" though. Its not "complex" at all, in fact. Its... buying watches that are easier to re-sell.
Could you mention some watches from your collection? Would be interesting to see what are GADA watches in your opinion
Maybe one thing overlooked in Max’s assessment of GADA watches is that for some collectors, we just like GADA watches as a specific style choice, and not so much as a one and done. I own four “GADA” watches, and each one does something different for me, be it functionality like an adjustable hour hand, or just plane aesthetics. Great review - I’m about two months into a new BB39 S&G “gray” dial with the jubilee and chunky clasp. I love this watch, but it gets competition from my Globemaster and AT, and maybe not as much but still some competition for my Tissot Gentleman. Regardless of my thoughts, Max is spot on regarding those who might want a watch that does a specific thing - I totally get that, but again my taste go for the GADA, but not just one GADA, I guess…!
I agree and would go even further: I feel like i'm wearing a costume when wearing a dress-watch. That is clearly not who i am... but a metall-GADA watch like bb36, Sinn556... are sporty, masculin but still elegant. To wear it with a hoody and leatherjacket and later in the evening with an elegant shirt just tells me that this watch truly belongst to me and i'm not using it to give an impression about myself... if that makes any sense..
Ditto that. I'm not particularly interested in sport watches either. I just want a good looking watch, that I can dress up or down, with a metal bracelet added to the collection (all of my watches have leather straps). Black Bay ticks all the boxes.@@aljoschawolff4069
I like a GADA that borders a little more on the dressy side. That way I have a formal watch and a nice watch for casual occassions. Perhaps with a little extra flair to keep things interesting. I find that the GADA category is especially useful for travel where I don't want to carry multiple watches with me
I tried on a BB-36 2 tone at my local AD. I was actually shocked at how nice it looked and felt on my wrist.
You miss the whole point of a GADA watch. It does not replace a diver. It does replace a dress watch. It doesn’t replace a tool watch etc. GADA is capable of doing anything, but it doesn’t replace everything. How often do people wear a dress watch? To me dress watches are a waste as you only wear them so often depending to your needs. For me anyway. Yes most watch collectors do want GADA watches. As you become more as a seasoned collector, you will find your collection shrinking a little bit. Then that is where a GADA watch comes in.
“Speedy…for Tuesday!” Hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣
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If you desire a GADA then you don't need a collection, you know like most normal people.
Precisely!
Good point!
Nobody _needs_ a collection unless you're in the business of selling watches.
@@eustab.anas-mann9510I'd argue if you're selling watches then it's not a collection, it's your stock. A collection is just that, it's part of the hobby. If you don't partake in this hobby, which most people don't, then you don't have a collection, as simple as that.
YES!!!
Just got the new 41 Champagne, awesome watch. Perfect all rounder, everyday watch.
GADA is a perfect option...for the person who doesn't really cares and collect watches. 1 watch collection. But do we want onli1 watch?? I don't ..
As a firefighter, a GADA watch is ideal for me. My Seiko Alpinist SBDC145 is rugged and restrained. Perfect.
It’s not an updated BB39
There was no Black Bay 39 before
You’re so right about GADA watches. I can see this being someone’s first luxury watch but as they get deeper into the hobby, they will probably be more intentional with their purchases and end up purchasing purpose built watches which is the sickness we all have 😂. Also, it was great running into at Windup in SF and seeing you test drive the BB39!
I have 6 or 7 "nicer' watches including perhaps the paradigmatic GADA a Rolex Explorer I. But if I had to go down to one and done it would be my GS Skyflake. 100M WR, 72 hour PR, hyper accurate nicely finished movement visible behind an open casebook. Dressy on leather, sporty on a steel bracelet, rubber or Nato, and easy to change with drilled lugs. It has useful date and PR complications, but perhaps most importantly it is simply beautiful to look at which separates from the more typical utilitarian looking GADAs. Therefore it remains to me as a piece of performative jewelry that can stand the test of time. #2 on the list (for another time), my 37mm Rhodium Yachtmaster.
These have long been a staple of customizers in the Seiko world who want a dressy version of the SKX.
Now if only they’d get to branching out into other colors. A white, and matte black, and a few colors would be a real draw.
Yes, great to meet finally 😀
Love the new BB 39mm, could be my second Gada watch beside my black Sinn 556i. Those two could be the everyday black and blue base of my small collection. The more dressier models in my collection like my Junghans Max Bill handwind or my Longines Dolce Vita are for special occasions, my Longines HydroConquest as my first real watch will stay as well as a kind of beater watch
Ironic how the only people singing the praises of a GADA watch are collectors who get choice paralysis when staring at their watch box 🤣
Let’s be honest, GADA is just another slot in the watch box.
I think the closest thing I can relate to GADA is a travel watch. I’m going backpacking in South America and only taking the Tudor Ranger on a strap and I have no doubt it’ll suit every situation I find myself in.
As for the new bezeless BBs, I think they’ve got too expensive and too “shiny”. Definitely leaning more dressy and less versatile.
The 1926 is best tudor nobody is talking about
Quite cheesed that we’ll never see the old bb36 in a 39mm. Was hoping for that flat blue dial with the old chunky hands on an oyster bracelet. It’s too bad that they nuked the flat dial colors and oysters on these.
To each their own , I have found out throughout my life sometimes we need better perspective. I will never again fall deep in a hobby where I lose the point . Seen it and experienced it you get so bored you look for reasons to get excited about something 95% of people could careless or even notice the difference but you and like a few others dudes can lol . Thank you for this video I never considered a Tudor but this one is simple and elegant just what I’m looking for .
My entire collection is Go Anywhere Do Anything and i couldn’t disagree with you more. Not a fan of single purpose watches or gimmicks. Think space, deep sea, racing, field, James Bond etc. Gimme an OP36 any day over a speedmaster
In my experience, a GADA watch is more about versatility than being a one watch collection. Watch collectors seem to want watches that fit their lifestyle and the different situations they will encounter. I love the changes to this line. This watch is a great addition to a collection, even if it's your only watch.
I definitely agree 😊
As my collection grows, I understand the problem with GADA watches - which my 1998 Tag 2000 is. You don't wear them simply because you have others to wear. GADA is designed for one-and-done, and for muppets like us, that's the exact opposite of what we want. We want to change our watch daily, regardless of events (at least I do). Why have 6 watches if you only wear one? If you are going to collect, get very different, specific pieces you'll say "oh, yes, today it's my Hamilton PSR for sure" - etc. If you want one great watch, get a GADA for sure.
I'm the owner of the previous generation bb36 blue dial and it has quietly been the most enjoyable watch I've ever owned. Whenever i consider throwing something else on it just doesn't hit the same notes.
I already have my eyes on the new champagne dial 36 as a slightly fancier but hopefully just as versatile addition to the family. Can't wait to see it in person. Still hasn't showed up at area dealers.
To me its the tudor royal that is the underdog. The bb36 / 41 gets way more attention.
The royal makes a better gada watch imo as the bb36 is a diver with reduced specs and no bezel.
By contrast the royal can be sporty or dressy and yet still has 100m WR.
I havent tried on the new BB36 yet, but hope to do so soon! The T fit claps + jubilee should make it extremely comfortable..
It's a complete watch now 👌
Max I gotta say I did not like this release! It seems like with the ranger rerelease Tudor are now pushing the bb36-39 to be an aquaterra/date just alternative, and I just wish it was more of a field watch look like it used to be. Feels like it’s just a completely different watch than it used to be. It’s also 150% of the price it was 1 year ago now! If this was the same black dial and oyster bracelet with an in-house I would have been perfect imo
Fínally somebody notices it! I would actually have like your view on the 36mm.
just wished they still did the old black and blue glossy dials. I loved the previous gen models, but couldn't get passed the crown. Now they've fixed the crown but removed the best part of the watch, the dial! personally prefer the old bracelet, suits the tooly aspect of the watch, the jubilee (sorry 5 link) is just too bling/dressy.
There’s something about dive dials on non-dive watches that just doesn’t move me
Ok, now hear me out: Would the jubilee bracelet of the Black Bay 39 fit on the Black Bay 54?
Dream scenario would be for Tudor to straight up offer the 54 on this stunning jubilee, but I wouldn't bet on that ever happening, so I was wondering if the bracelet is interchangeable...
Best solution would probably to to wait for Uncle Seiko (I think they're called Uncle Straps now) to release a Jubilee bracelet for the Black Bay 54 and then just use the T-fit clasp from whichever OME Tudor bracelet you go with.
Argh! Stop gold plating everything!! Yuck!
Firstly, the 36mm rather than 39mm would be the epitome of the "gada" watch for me. Secondly, for those of us who otherwise exclusively collect vintage watches, a modern "gada" watch can fill a very specific and non-generalist niche, i.e. that of the non-vintage watch. I would buy this watch specifically for the modern watch features, i.e. silicone hairspring, water resistance, lume etc. So this watch might be the perfect single non-vintage watch for the experienced vintage watch collector.
This is still absolutely my obtainable dream watch, but I do miss the smile.
This is my favorite channel right now...and I am beyond done with the normie reviewers. So boring at this point. Never critical of anything.
Cheers my friend 😉
Awesome vid. I see your point about GADA watches but there’s also something special behind owning a GADA watch. As it spends more time on your wrist it also builds up memory with you and over time will mean a lot to you. Sentimental value. Of course also over time as you said you may also get bored of it with its simple design. Just have fun. Don’t over think it. Life is short
Wow, just seen this watch for the first time and it looks gorgeous! I love a dateless watch and have always loved a jubilee bracelet!
I have the explorer which kinda fills this void. Between bb58 and explorer I am good. I do plan eventually getting aqua terra
Also my favorite tudor release is the chocolate royal which nobody else seems to care about so hopefully I can get a good deal on one. My 1926 S&G is my favorite watch so I'm not really a BB sort
Wonder why Tudor hates date function so much
I've got 2 main complaints with this watch. Firstly the price is too high. Secondly they should have given it a regular hour hand and all stick markers. Effectively a bargain Datejust. For the record, I'm a massive Datejust 36 fan.
gold colored hands with silver indexes? Seiko just did the same on the teal Seiko 5 sports 38
Haha yeah that's weird of seiko
It’s a matter of the mind. Nothing will be perfect in the brain of an avid collector. They are always lusting after their new aspiration or acquisition while simultaneously envying those who land on a watch for life. I still hunt for watches but seldom pull the trigger as nothing could satisfy me like my vintage Rolex GMT.
Another great take. GADA watches have to be vanilla! I love this on the jubilee though…,,
Yeah man, the jubilee is sexy 👌
Don't you think the only bad thing about it is the case shape seems unrefined/ generic?
I somewhat disagree about this watch not being a specialist... But only somewhat.
Is this watch one that can be worn by most people at all times? Absolutely, but the question is this: is that reality a function of the watch's design or of changes in human behavior and societal expectations?
My supposition is that it's more of the latter than you're giving credit for. What I'm saying is that this watch is actually a pure sports watch and not a dress watch at all. The only reason this watch works in all situations is because most people don't actually participate in activities where formal dress is expected as frequently as most people used to, and, in addition to that, activities themselves are becoming less formal in their expectations.
People are dressing more casually at all times, at home, at work, at gatherings of all types.
In other words, formal dress has become more of a choice than an expectation.
So is this watch formal? I don't think so. It's just that nobody really cares any more.
That said... It's definitely a bit shiny and fancy for a sports watch. But there's plenty of precedent for that. The Rolex Explorer is the easy comparison with it's polished sloped bezel.
I think what this watch is, is a sports watch that differentiates by looking a bit fancier than normal. And honestly, I like that, _if_ it's used for its intended purpose. If I saw somebody wearing this while actually sporting and not being concerned with scratching it up, I'd give them maximum street cred. But somebody who wears this during the day at the office and takes it off before going hiking or whatever, ehh, it's a fine watch for that but it feels like you're babying it too much if you don't ding it up. And if you're not willing to do that, you might as well buy something more delicate.
Basically I think it's cool when people aren't afraid to use their shiny expensive luxury sports pieces for their intended purpose. That just doesn't happen that often. This watch is like a Porsche: it's a beautifully built sports car, but it's just expensive enough that often times people are afraid to use it. It's just not an RS model though because there's plenty of more expensive more focused watches that people are still afraid to beat up. This watch is a mid trim level Porsche Cayman. More people are willing to use those because they're more attainable, but they're still enough of a luxury that it's tempting to baby it.
This generation of updated BB might appeal to the current market, which seems to favor trendy pale colors and a bit of bling...still the basics design is best presented in the discontinued BB36. Neither the jubilee or the switch to a lollipop seconds hands do improve on the design. Not a bad watch overall but not great either. Got me a BB36 black when I realized Tudor axed this model.
Totally agree, that's why I sold my Explorer I 214270 MK2, I replaced it with a Grand Seiko SBGA301 and couldnt be happier. I just thought the Explorer didnt fit my collection. I still have my Zenith Chronomaster, Cartier Tank MC, Omega SMP Diver, IWC Spitfire to cherish 😊. Cheers from Mexico 🇲🇽
Hope you don’t regret it. If I ever get an Explorer I, I’ll never sell
Its awesome that you actually covered this one. No one seems to be talking it up.
Also, the overall best Tudor is the now discontinued Black Bay 36, blue matte dial.
A true versatile tool watch.
I think the new BB smooth bezel line looks great, but I do agree somewhat. Also it is more hybrid than ever before. the old BB smooth bezel was a an explorer or OP substitute with its lacquer blue or black dial and oyster-style bracelet. Adding in the 5-link bracelet and sunburst dial moves it into a hybrid-OP (sunburst dial but with a 5-link) or dateless smooth-bezel DJ, which is a cool but odd combo. and with the ranger also being an explorer 39 alternative, the new BB smooth bezel moves away from being the explorer alternative. I too would rather have more specific watches for certain functions/complications/occasions than the do-it-all. I'd still choose the DJ 36, an OP, or an explorer over this since those provide certain uses while this is trying to be a combo of them.
Definitely an underappreciated model. The previous 41 had a nice dial but the 41mm size and bracelet option wasn't to my liking. However, the new 39mm 5 link bracelet is a definite buy for me.
Color usually has much more to do with my choice of watch for the day than planned activity.
I was eyeing the BB54 but the AD said the wait list is quite long. He suggested I have a look at the BB36, so I did. Left the store with the BB36 S&G with no regrets!
I have a new BB41 and I love it. I can’t take it off even when I’m sleeping. It is perfect for almost any occasion and I wear it at work while I wear a suit.
Yes, not talking about it, because I am already waiting for the next color schemes to come😆
Haha 😆
GADA watches are nice to have. I believe having a balance is key to a collection (3 watches or more). I go by how it makes you feel and how you would like to style your watch.
My collection is primarily dress watches so I have the previous version of the BB36 as my one GADA watch that I don't have to baby
36 is so good 👍
I love this watch, seriously considering it. 39 blue for me.
There is one important thing about GADA watches and that's why I love my Aqua Terra 38: they are certified strap monsters, they go well with all leather, rubber or fancy NATO straps. You couldn't do this with a dress watch could you? :)
Very good point! Switching straps changes lives
Hi Max, thank you for the insight/review of this watch. I've finally made the decision to purchase this actuel Tudor model. Thank you so much to make me do it! By the way, awsome UA-cam channel! Greets from Belgium 😎👍
Great video. And you put your finger right on the same spot that I arrived at yesterday, when trying on the BB54 (again)… I think it’s a near perfect watch, however I just don’t know when I would wear it !
I suspect you’re right in that it’s probably a result of being spoiled for choice with the GADA watches I already own.
And whilst I keep flirting with the idea of buying one, does this mean that I will never buy a Tudor ?
If anything, the smaller size is a reason why I would opt for the BB54 and take the plunge. I already own an Explorer I (39mm) and consequently see little/no reason to go down the route of this BB39.
But the point you make is very valid… have I reached my ‘watch saturation point’ ?
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Surprised you didn’t go with the 36
My wrist is growing 😂
Appointment with an MRI machine 😂😂
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I could be wrong but doesn’t this one cost a little bit more than the 54?
I have a baltic hermétique 37mm, yema superman héritage 39mm, yema wristmaster micro rotor 39mm, and the bb36 blue. I'm done. 4 watches, différents style. Love them all
You’re right. A GADA watch is the gatekeeper at the entrance of the watch-collecting rabbit hole. Once you get deep into the levels of Rolex, Lange, Vacheron, you’re so deep into the rabbit hole that you always turn to a custom-purpose watch suited for each occasion.
Exactly! I appreciate this watch, but probably won't wear it 🫤
You don’t need to be able to afford Rolex, Lange, Vacheron to get deep into collecting watches and go beyond GADA models. Seiko, Tissot, Hamilton, and many other brands offer great specialist watches that most people can afford.
You might like the Tudor Royal. Not so GADA.
Underrated 💯
I agree totally, great video. Spot on. At $4000 with a in house movement, awesome bracelet with adjustable clasp and GADA looks hits the sweet spot just right. Omega could learn a thing or two with the bracelet. Yes we want a watch for all occasions.
reminds me of the Seiko SRPE
Picking mine up this Friday. 😎
Unpopular opinion - I think Tudor made a mistake putting the 2023 releases on a jubilee. I know everyone is jubilee-crazy these days, but the jubilee doesn't really make sense on tool watches. I reckon Tudor should just make a Datejust alternative and add the fluted/engine turn bezel.
Tried it in and it was great but opted for the BB54 has all the charm and heritage
This might be a great “holidays watch” though. I mean, I have a sizable collection but mostly Rolexes. I live in Switzerland and I can (still) wear them without worrying. Since I like the Rolex design language, I could see myself pick one this up for vacations, when I go to less safe countries. It looks robust enough to withstand some mild adventures, casual enough for city strolls and dressy/stylish enough for the night out… it’s actually a good compromise considering all the specifications, including size and all. I might actually grab the blue one for my vacations this year
I was out in the wild and saw a very lovely older lady wearing the new black pay 36 in that same dial color on the five link bracelet. It looked absolutely amazing on her.
The MORE that anything I own can do... the better.
If my watch(or anything) can't be dressed up or dressed down... I'm NOT interested.
I'm not going to drop thousands of dollars on anything that is only an "occasional" wear. It's a waste of money and doesn't fit my life style.
I actually don't like Rolex, but do like Tudor... Yes I know same owners, but vastly different marketing strategies and customer service.
My preference is the Black Bay M79230B-0008 41mm with the white hand set, and matt blue anodised aluminium Bezel insert.
Has the retro signed crown with the Tudor rose, Domed sapphire crystal, and Rivet bracelet... A modern retro look(LoL), the best of both worlds.
I see why I disagree with you on this one and GADA watches in general; speedy’s are definitely a Saturday watch. A GADA watch is perfect for Thursday when you dont have any meetings but will be going out for cocktail hour after a day at the office. Blends the two environments as effortlessly as rolling up your sleeves and taking off the tie.
Tudor is a homage brand. Simply copying designs from 70 years ago... 1 mm here and there and dozens of content creators get all new videos to make and gush over the "creativity".
You even said it yourself... "the side profile resembles the rolex oyster"... as does the bracelet, dial furniture, etc etc etc...
True, but can also be said about most brands 😅
For me a GADA watch has to have a date - elegantly executed (it IS possible) - but if you’re a no-date person wanting a long PR, personally I would steer away from the hype brands, a category Tudor has joined, and look at something like a Farer Erebus II (£895) three-hander with its La Joux-Perret movement with 68hrs PR and forego paying the ever-increasing brand tax.
Farer is great! I want all their models 💯
Just picked up the new BB36 blue dial...truly wonderful
Flush-fit like the older models?
@@idid1866 how do you mean?
Congrats Kevin!
@@kevinpascual Doe it fit flat on the wrist?
@@idid1866 yes
Can any of you watch reviewers just stop talking about Rolex, Tudor or omega????? Please! So cliche and boring already.. enough is enough! There are thousand of thousand of Watch brands out there and all you can talk about is these 3 flex or watch snobs favourite topics…. You said you don’t like watch snob but you’re a hypocrite! That’s why I would not and many of my WatchFam won’t join your WatchCrunch! Yeah, no watch snob eh! Whatever! Go buy more Rolex then! Yeah, you’re just not a watch snob…. IWC, Tudor, Grand Seiko, Rolex…. Oh but you have a Gshock so that is your jailfree card to prove you’re not a watch snob.. 😂 Producer Michael owns couple gshock too, he is just like any of our next door neighbours right? You can’t afford a Maserati… sure, Doctor, you mean you might not about you just get the latest limited edition yet you mean? Or maybe because you only Ferrari instead? You only own True Italian sport cars right? Maserati is too cheap for you I bet!
Why buying a watch like this? Everyone will ask you: Oh is that a datejust??? and you'll be: oh no its Tudor. A what? A Tudor, it's a sub-brand of Rolex and so on...
So no.I, and it's my opinion for me, people should wear what they like. I only say why i don't like it. and if you ask me how can i buy Rolex, you can't. I buy this cause its available. Well ill buy a Seiko with similar design awesome watch and cheaper
The Issue for me is The Rolex explorer is where my heart is and if I dont get it. ill spend just as much trying to fill that void overtime with different watches that will not satisfy.
The bezel-less Black Bays always look a bit naked to me.
This is a downgrade!! I have the ETA version, bought pre-owned after this was released. The dial is infinitely nicer, the bracelet is better and the water resistance is higher and the watch is STUNNING. I wouldn't trade it for the world, let alone a worse version of itself! Tudor fumbled the ball.
Forget this symmetry nonsense, if it had a date it would be perfect, but then it would compete with the datejust, so nada.
A DAILY NEEDS A DATE!! im my humble opinion.
IMHO a GADA Watch Requires a Date. so as much as this watch looks good it doesn't pass as a GADA. the do everything part as an example your work place requires signing and dating Forms or books several times a day. Should be able to glance over at your watch and check the date. not seeing a date every glance over will slowly disappoint alot of people i would imagine. and before anyone mentions "just look at your phone" or "glance at your computer screen", i work as a mechanic and have to fill in customer service books while sitting in a car. Pulling out your phone everytime gets VERY annoying.
Sorry but i think all Tudors are overrated. Also the new ones are... smaller...and... yeah.. Black Bay 54 not 58 but ..smaller and still boring...and...nothing new. I get it they are not ugly but at this price point i expect more innovation. It's just not mine.
I can't wait for this current sunburst dial phase to be over. It makes everything look like a cheap mall watch 🤢🤢🤮
The design is all over the place: tool head with a dressy sunburst dial. Everyday proportions with a dress bracelet. Diver markers matched with a dress CMF. It's a total mess of a design; it doesn't know what it's trying to be.
Does the jubilee work with a BB58?
Hmmm 🤔
I prefer the BB36, the blue one. I can do without divers.
Good choice 👌
The most annoying feature of Tudor watches is the obtuse-angled hour hand. All serious watch manufacturers have a sharp hand pointing to a point, a point in time, Grand Seiko, Rollex, Omega and so on. Only Tudor does not have a sharp tip at the end of the hand and it is unclear why they put a square on it. If this is an attempt to show off to be unique, it is clearly a failed attempt. I would like it if instead of a square there would be, e.g., an arrow like Omega Moon watches. Design should be smart, not dumb. Unique stupidity is not the right solution
Will the bracelet from this version work on other Black Bay models like the GMT or the chronograph? The lugs are all 22mm.
I have the S&G 39, a very nice piece.
This is not even close to an Explorer or AT. The dial indices are just wrong. It does wear comfortably though but I just couldn't live with the round indices. It's like a half diver dial. So I sold mine
Supposed "GADA" watches are dull. I have one and rarely get's worn BUT it has a role. It's for moments when you want a watch to be totally inconspicuous.