What an amazing shop! State of the art. People, Process, product! ❤ it takes a lot of work to build culture. It's something that a lot of manufacturers miss. These guys get it! You can't buy it you have to build it and there's no shortcuts! Thanks Stan!
Good morning, Stan! Excellent video, Brother! I don't know who was more excited. You being in the plant, the guys running the plant or me watching all of you being excited about a great product and it's processes to make that product come to fruition. I normally scroll through pretty much every video. I watched the entire thing! Thanks for taking us along!
I Think it is fun to see what you can doo in USA/Canada. in Denmark a pickup/car with a trailer is only allowed too max way 7000 kg so we can max load what you way empty PS. love the trailer
i have a southland SL714-14k its been a good trailer for the money, iv got some minor gripes and things i think could be improved upon but i think its a high value trailer. its never not dumped a load that iv put in it. some of the heavier ones weren't scaled so i couldn't tell you how much weight is the most its dumped.
Put some 304 gravel on it not golf ball size round gravel and see what it does. The round stuff rolls out pretty easy. It is a good looking set up. It would work good for every day jobs.
I haven’t seen it yet, but a top swing tailgate option for a dump trailer. I would like one for tailgate spreading gravel on a driveway/private road. It would also have to have a swing option obviously so you can load equipment or pallets in the back.
my loadtrail dump is like this, i can chain it and tailgate the material. the only problem is i need a second person to drive ahead while dumping because my controller doesn't reach the cab
Stan, FYI, as far as any digital truck scale I've ever used you should be able to have the scaler set it to lb or alternate back and forth with just a push of a button if you need. If it's an unmanned scale just push k/lb button
Power up and power down would cut your max cycles down quite a bit vs a telescopic power up & gravity down, no? Love the setup, and that hoist is beefy. Whats the longevity of it though
Love a good dump trailer. Wish they would move the pivot point to the very end so that the tail did not drag and so a bigger pile could be dumped and not strung out. I get that would mean a stronger and more expensive hoist. They are counting on the cantilever to help it dump but then it drags unless you are on very solid and level base. How often does that happen on a construction site? I don't use mine to haul equipment so I would be fine with a higher deck height to get it to dump more like a dump truck. I know you can make it happen Stan.
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I have a sl714 a couple years now and the thinner box gets beat up pretty bad hauling concrete but it tows better than any other trailer I've ever pulled and dumps anything that will fit great trailer for the cost
Continuous improvement works best when folks don’t have to care who is getting the credit. When everyone is rewarded for increased productivity, businesses flourish.
I might be seeing things but it looks like there's a decent pile behind the trailer before it starts dumping. I understand some came out while opening the doors but it looks like more then that, but maybe I'm wrong.
100% was going to say that.... I picked up on the relief valve and the large pile in the back of the trailer also.... That hoist is no different than any other scissor they mass produce. It seems like a well built trailer but there is no comparing a telescopic lift to the scissor lifts.... physics do not lie.
So that trailer has a 2 12k axles in it just using a single 17.5 tire rim instead of a dual wheel ? If so were they using a standard 215 17.5 tire or a 225 or 245 17.5 I’m very curious in my line of work I have 215’s on my trailer and with my 16-17k cat d3b dozer they squat like ur saying with 26k in that trailer
Do you need another driving license to drive with that much weight? 7tonnes in uk is max for a van and trailer fully loaded. So to move over that we need to get additional driving licenses and they vary for weight classes.
In alberta with a regular class 5 (European B) licence you can haul a 4600kg. So 10120 pounds. I lived in Europe for a while and it's unbelievable what a hassle it is every time you want to haul something heavy like a classic car. Can't even rent a trailer here since you're only allowed 750kg and most cars won't haul more than 2tons anyway.
that pump was on relief valve before you cut the lifting clip and came back at different angle look at the pile behind the trailer while you were videoing beginning of lift to when your angle changed looks like a lie 5:16 to 5:21 you got in the truck and moved it 8 ft forward mys well had the loader under front corner to help you out and did it without a vid cut and shoveling off a ton or to and move truck
There's a lot of guys out there that will save these guys are anal . But here's the thing they have everything labeled and everything goes back where it is labeled. So a brand new guy if he can read he'll know where he can find his helmet his hammer whatever and at the end of the day if the new guy can read he knows where to put his hammer his helmet or whatever. Organization cuts out frustration with yourself with your coworkers being organized remove heated debates and keeps everyone calm and happy you have a good working environment and you get to go home with a good attitude 97.5% percent of the time organisation helps you keep your sanity and since the world's going crazy we need our self sanity 👍👍👍👍👍
I worked in a 6S Shop, the philosophy was the same as in the Southland shop except ours was a complete nightmare because the only "good" ideas came from the GM or the Supervisors and every shift had the best "idea" and just worked against each other. Just a complete circle jerk joke
They dont have any dealers in midwest so its a moot point. 1000s of trailers from other oems r sitting on lots with heavy discounts. Its a freaking dump trailer. Buy one and get to work!
Bought this exact same trailer brand new and it will not dump 19,820 lbs let alone the rated 20,500. Manufacturer says I'm on my own because I bought it new at auction. Then said they wouldn't warranty the pump anyway because that would be up to Lippert the pump Manufacturer. So either this is a faulty trailer or they turned up the pump on the dump in this video. My load was centered in the trailer, sure could have been a few inches back but this is how they load them with big Kamatsu loaders. No way in hell one of these will dump 27,000lbs like in the video. Funny my other comment showed up then disappeared.
Stan that trailer may have a big capacity if you ever filled it with heavy materials it would have 50 thousand pounds in it and there are people out there that would do it
That trailer has such a horrible dump angle probably 30° doubt even 35° good luck dumping out any damp loam or anything sticky and they did that because they opted for a cheaper small piston and have it mounted way to far forward to gain extra lift out of it they should of just mounted a bigger scissor hoist and would have the dump angle of 40 45° atleast
I believe they didn't want to push the dump angle to its limit, especially with a newer truck, to avoid potential damage to the frame. When I dump heavy loads, I follow a similar approach, ensuring I don't drag the rear while pulling away. Here's a link to a 14K Southland that provides a better idea of the dump angle it may have ua-cam.com/video/NOnSRTI5Bx8/v-deo.htmlsi=co3kBOI4Fzlyx8vF
@johnny4713ify so what would you do with loam then that has to be on a steeper angle than stone lol doesn't seem ideal and paving trucks are set up for 50° like we have but most dumps are 45 to 40 to dump loam and wet loads out they trailer needs less over hang and bigger hoist and move it back yeah they say 15 ton hoist or whatever but the manufacturer of the hoist if you ever installed one tells you where you mount it the capacity and angle and on a normal truck with electric that's about a 8 ton hoist just moved far forward to gain the extra weight capacity
@@mikethorntonr1 Most of us have managed to unload an overloaded load successfully. Ideally, scheduling from a dry yard is preferable, depending on your location. In Southern California, where I reside, dealing with construction material and desert landscaping is common. The loam here tends to be mostly dry. I currently use a 12-foot Big Tex trailer, as a 14-foot one would incur commercial rates at my local landfill. Considering the weight and fuel costs in SC, I'm exploring smaller Southland dump trailers for weight/load fuel savings. Besides, I don't think people will be crazy maxing out their trailers daily, but it's good to know this particular model can handle it if needed.
He's actually not telling the truth, because if it's the same design, And dumps would have scissor lifts, and they don't, they have front cylinder lifts.
The company I worked for back in the early 2000s implemented Kaizon way of manufacturing. It was great at first, color coded tools, place for everything, efficiency etc etc. What sucked was the later firing of workers who were no longer needed. Then the top paid workers because the Japanese Kaizon system doesnt support higher paid trained employees. Kaizon was really designed to eliminate employees and make the American worker work harder and do more. American company owners and investors want the same efficiency of the Japanese plants but with the American company profits. Dont promote this crap. This is the reason a quit and started my landscape company full-time.
What you describe doesn't fit with the KAI-ZEN (change good) methodology I know from scrum/agile. It seems like the name got misused to cut the workforce, when it should be about continuous improvements.
Stan, thank you for crossing the border to show your subscribers this amazing manufacturer!!🇺🇸🇨🇦
Thanks Stan.
What an amazing shop! State of the art. People, Process, product! ❤ it takes a lot of work to build culture. It's something that a lot of manufacturers miss. These guys get it! You can't buy it you have to build it and there's no shortcuts! Thanks Stan!
magine new 21, 36,48,and 52 inch kubota walk behind mowers hopefully be at the dealers here in canada this spring
Good morning, Stan! Excellent video, Brother! I don't know who was more excited. You being in the plant, the guys running the plant or me watching all of you being excited about a great product and it's processes to make that product come to fruition. I normally scroll through pretty much every video. I watched the entire thing! Thanks for taking us along!
Bad ass trailer right there! Hope you are staying warm, it's pretty bitter. Keep it up
The way Southland runs their shop is awesome. I’d work there.
Awesome trailers I own two of the 7x14s for 2 years now without any issues 💪
I got a 16k southland dump trailer and have had 0 issues with it and the aluminum ramps make loading and unloading so much easier than the steel ramps
I Think it is fun to see what you can doo in USA/Canada. in Denmark a pickup/car with a trailer is only allowed too max way 7000 kg so we can max load what you way empty
PS. love the trailer
Really nice place very cool to see company that cares
I just bought a Southland equipment trailer and super happy with it when I buy a dump trailer it was definitely be a Southland
i have a southland SL714-14k its been a good trailer for the money, iv got some minor gripes and things i think could be improved upon but i think its a high value trailer. its never not dumped a load that iv put in it. some of the heavier ones weren't scaled so i couldn't tell you how much weight is the most its dumped.
Sharp looking outfits!
Put some 304 gravel on it not golf ball size round gravel and see what it does.
The round stuff rolls out pretty easy.
It is a good looking set up.
It would work good for every day jobs.
Wow , great video !
Be careful Justin Trudeau doesn't see this egregious law of overloading happening. He might freeze your bank account lol
glad treaubo is gone in next fedreal election scaming all canada lol
Now that’s funny!
tray your new ring should be done this week. awesome ive been waiting
I haven’t seen it yet, but a top swing tailgate option for a dump trailer. I would like one for tailgate spreading gravel on a driveway/private road. It would also have to have a swing option obviously so you can load equipment or pallets in the back.
Yeah, that makes sense as an option at least.
my loadtrail dump is like this, i can chain it and tailgate the material. the only problem is i need a second person to drive ahead while dumping because my controller doesn't reach the cab
The HD versions do have a spreader gate.
Stan, FYI, as far as any digital truck scale I've ever used you should be able to have the scaler set it to lb or alternate back and forth with just a push of a button if you need. If it's an unmanned scale just push k/lb button
Awesome 👍
Power up and power down would cut your max cycles down quite a bit vs a telescopic power up & gravity down, no?
Love the setup, and that hoist is beefy. Whats the longevity of it though
Thanks for the educational video on why you shouldn't over load your trailer and they are built and rated.
Love a good dump trailer. Wish they would move the pivot point to the very end so that the tail did not drag and so a bigger pile could be dumped and not strung out. I get that would mean a stronger and more expensive hoist. They are counting on the cantilever to help it dump but then it drags unless you are on very solid and level base. How often does that happen on a construction site? I don't use mine to haul equipment so I would be fine with a higher deck height to get it to dump more like a dump truck. I know you can make it happen Stan.
It’s called a deck over. Almost every brand makes them
Nice one Stan. 👍👍🏴🏴
Span of control refers to the number of team members that can be managed effectively and efficiently by a supervisor or manager in an organization. Typically, it is either narrow or wide resulting in a flatter or more hierarchical organizational structure. Each type has its inherent advantages and disadvantages.
I’m glad I bought one!!!!!!!!!!
i have a 14000 lb pj with scissor lift . bought it because of power down . plenty of power
I have a sl714 a couple years now and the thinner box gets beat up pretty bad hauling concrete but it tows better than any other trailer I've ever pulled and dumps anything that will fit great trailer for the cost
I do concrete work I’m curious how bad the box gets beat up or if it dips with carrying gravel or concrete constantly
Love it
Reminds me of caterpillar we could eat off our floor they were washed every day and we kept oil grease etc spills cleaned up everything has a place
Continuous improvement works best when folks don’t have to care who is getting the credit. When everyone is rewarded for increased productivity, businesses flourish.
I might be seeing things but it looks like there's a decent pile behind the trailer before it starts dumping. I understand some came out while opening the doors but it looks like more then that, but maybe I'm wrong.
100% was going to say that.... I picked up on the relief valve and the large pile in the back of the trailer also.... That hoist is no different than any other scissor they mass produce. It seems like a well built trailer but there is no comparing a telescopic lift to the scissor lifts.... physics do not lie.
Finally got a good lookin truck on this channel! 🎉🎉🎉 😂
And that pup dump a trailer doesn't have a scissor lift.It's a front of waste, so they got to be different designs
So that trailer has a 2 12k axles in it just using a single 17.5 tire rim instead of a dual wheel ? If so were they using a standard 215 17.5 tire or a 225 or 245 17.5 I’m very curious in my line of work I have 215’s on my trailer and with my 16-17k cat d3b dozer they squat like ur saying with 26k in that trailer
Do you need another driving license to drive with that much weight? 7tonnes in uk is max for a van and trailer fully loaded. So to move over that we need to get additional driving licenses and they vary for weight classes.
In alberta with a regular class 5 (European B) licence you can haul a 4600kg. So 10120 pounds. I lived in Europe for a while and it's unbelievable what a hassle it is every time you want to haul something heavy like a classic car. Can't even rent a trailer here since you're only allowed 750kg and most cars won't haul more than 2tons anyway.
that pump was on relief valve before you cut the lifting clip and came back at different angle look at the pile behind the trailer while you were videoing beginning of lift to when your angle changed looks like a lie 5:16 to 5:21 you got in the truck and moved it 8 ft forward mys well had the loader under front corner to help you out and did it without a vid cut and shoveling off a ton or to and move truck
5:16 to 5:21
The pile was from when they opened the tailgate. The trailer dumped it all by itself.
Why do end dumps have one piston at the front then
sure trac powder coat all falls off within 2 years... some companies have powder coat down, but a lot don't
But is it as good as a Diamond C in your opinion
There's a lot of guys out there that will save these guys are anal . But here's the thing they have everything labeled and everything goes back where it is labeled. So a brand new guy if he can read he'll know where he can find his helmet his hammer whatever and at the end of the day if the new guy can read he knows where to put his hammer his helmet or whatever. Organization cuts out frustration with yourself with your coworkers being organized remove heated debates and keeps everyone calm and happy you have a good working environment and you get to go home with a good attitude 97.5% percent of the time organisation helps you keep your sanity and since the world's going crazy we need our self sanity 👍👍👍👍👍
I worked in a 6S Shop, the philosophy was the same as in the Southland shop except ours was a complete nightmare because the only "good" ideas came from the GM or the Supervisors and every shift had the best "idea" and just worked against each other. Just a complete circle jerk joke
They dont have any dealers in midwest so its a moot point. 1000s of trailers from other oems r sitting on lots with heavy discounts. Its a freaking dump trailer. Buy one and get to work!
Bought this exact same trailer brand new and it will not dump 19,820 lbs let alone the rated 20,500. Manufacturer says I'm on my own because I bought it new at auction. Then said they wouldn't warranty the pump anyway because that would be up to Lippert the pump Manufacturer. So either this is a faulty trailer or they turned up the pump on the dump in this video. My load was centered in the trailer, sure could have been a few inches back but this is how they load them with big Kamatsu loaders. No way in hell one of these will dump 27,000lbs like in the video. Funny my other comment showed up then disappeared.
Stan that trailer may have a big capacity if you ever filled it with heavy materials it would have 50 thousand pounds in it and there are people out there that would do it
That's why there's common sense. A lot of loads are light and fluffy. Brush, trash whatever. When hauling gravel ,concrete you need to pay attention.
@@sean3301I don’t think you realize how uncommon ‘common sense’ is these days.
@@brandon18054 Common sense is a Fatal Word these days... Just about no one uses Common sense today
make sure u plow the businesses first though
The trailer is well worth the money. Too bad they used a garbage GM to move it around.
Well Over a 100k GM stands for The General Mess Co pickup truck
A quick way to convert kilograms to pounds is 1 Kg = 2.2 lbs .
that transmission was crying
That trailer has such a horrible dump angle probably 30° doubt even 35° good luck dumping out any damp loam or anything sticky and they did that because they opted for a cheaper small piston and have it mounted way to far forward to gain extra lift out of it they should of just mounted a bigger scissor hoist and would have the dump angle of 40 45° atleast
I believe they didn't want to push the dump angle to its limit, especially with a newer truck, to avoid potential damage to the frame. When I dump heavy loads, I follow a similar approach, ensuring I don't drag the rear while pulling away. Here's a link to a 14K Southland that provides a better idea of the dump angle it may have ua-cam.com/video/NOnSRTI5Bx8/v-deo.htmlsi=co3kBOI4Fzlyx8vF
@johnny4713ify so what would you do with loam then that has to be on a steeper angle than stone lol doesn't seem ideal and paving trucks are set up for 50° like we have but most dumps are 45 to 40 to dump loam and wet loads out they trailer needs less over hang and bigger hoist and move it back yeah they say 15 ton hoist or whatever but the manufacturer of the hoist if you ever installed one tells you where you mount it the capacity and angle and on a normal truck with electric that's about a 8 ton hoist just moved far forward to gain the extra weight capacity
@@mikethorntonr1 Most of us have managed to unload an overloaded load successfully. Ideally, scheduling from a dry yard is preferable, depending on your location. In Southern California, where I reside, dealing with construction material and desert landscaping is common. The loam here tends to be mostly dry. I currently use a 12-foot Big Tex trailer, as a 14-foot one would incur commercial rates at my local landfill. Considering the weight and fuel costs in SC, I'm exploring smaller Southland dump trailers for weight/load fuel savings. Besides, I don't think people will be crazy maxing out their trailers daily, but it's good to know this particular model can handle it if needed.
It dumped but that hydraulic pump was not happy.
Was heavily loaded on the rear... Of course it will lift it! Lol
lol S&S landscaping and snow services. if mother nature can dish it out S&S can finish it
He's actually not telling the truth, because if it's the same design, And dumps would have scissor lifts, and they don't, they have front cylinder lifts.
2.2lbs in a kg
My dads big tex 14k rated dump trailer will not dump 12k
I have had 16k in it of gravel and had to shovel out a lot by hand befor it would dump
42042.16 lbs
your mom needs a salt shaker on the back of her plow truck
The company I worked for back in the early 2000s implemented Kaizon way of manufacturing. It was great at first, color coded tools, place for everything, efficiency etc etc. What sucked was the later firing of workers who were no longer needed. Then the top paid workers because the Japanese Kaizon system doesnt support higher paid trained employees. Kaizon was really designed to eliminate employees and make the American worker work harder and do more. American company owners and investors want the same efficiency of the Japanese plants but with the American company profits. Dont promote this crap. This is the reason a quit and started my landscape company full-time.
What you describe doesn't fit with the KAI-ZEN (change good) methodology I know from scrum/agile. It seems like the name got misused to cut the workforce, when it should be about continuous improvements.
2.2 kilos to a pound
If that was your weight on that scale, you better go on a diet.
You cheated by moving the truck while dumping.
You have to move the truck when dumping, or the load won't slide out.
here to help
Yes we here in Columbia SC need one hw can i call u
yea need a 100yrd spot to dump a load of rock instead of just using a tandem and dump in a small spot. dump trailers are a fucking joke
2.2 lbs per kg