Let me guess, the semi industrial saw will win against the gardening japanese saw. Next episode you should try to lift a car with a toy quadcopter vs a Chinook.
Mate the irony is Japanese woods saws even at the industrial level still look smilies to this. The main issue with this one is the folding. A traditional Japanese wood saw doesn’t fold meaning it has much long blade. But you are right they are comparing like with not like, the blade is 2 small for that job. On separate test with a small tree the Japanese won, this was just a bad test.
The point of a Japanese saw is that you take long strokes, applying little downward pressure, the saw will do the work while you simply move it back and forth. There are Japanese saws that are meant for cutting logs like that, and they do cut “faster” due to finer teeth. A western saw is literally for getting a rough cut, where the log will be split and re-sawn to exact dimensions at a mill. A Japanese saw is for cleaner cuts, where a mill is not practical, they’re also designed to use less energy because they cut in the pull stroke...as long as you’re using it right. If you got this far, thank you for reading. Have an amazing day, and make sure you get something done today, whether that’s brushing your teeth, or building a house, accomplish something today.👍
cool message off to be productive might order that saw so i can do some wood work or.. go pick up these battery connectors' and use them to seek first the kingdom of God
Lol this is hilarious. Here's the same scenario. "Hello!! Today we're gonna compare a tooth brush to a regulare size mop and see which one of the two will mop half of the room the fastest"
Look up "Willow Leaf Saw" you will find the right saw to compete with that Buck saw. I have one and it is very fast cutting on green wood. Cheers from Tokyo
The Tokyo Craftsman the Willow leaf saw that I just checked were for diameters of about 10" is there some that are made to be able to handle bigger logs? What do you think of this www.fine-tools.com/kobiki.html, the first one there named Temagori Nokogiri Crosscut would that also be a good choice?
Silky Katanaboy 650 would be a better comparison. Other UA-camrs have done this test already. The crosscut still wins on anything over 8 in. Anything less and the 650 wins. Of course a chainsaw beats them both.
"Hello! Today we will be shooting a target at 1000 meters! I have a 50 BMG and my buddy here has a daisy BB gun! This is gunna be interesting!" Seriously wtf
Haha...same story here. I was watching first Instant karma videos, then Phalanx vs Legion : Battle of Cynoscephalae and then suddenly i was here wathing this :D
@@Stfu9785 Because Americans just saw for the sake of sawing, Japanese saw to get the tree in the best condition thus using certain saws for certain jobs lol
jamie goode Wdym saw for the sake of sawing? Last I check that’s all you can do, I’m sure the Japanese saw is good at cutting down bamboo, but you can’t really use it to cut anything else. Just sayin you could cut down more varieties and diameters of trees with the buck saw and that’s why it’s superior.
@@Stfu9785 You'll find the Japanese have numerous types of saw for different jobs, trees etc, the one they used wasn't applicable for the job.....there's a much thicker 2 handed one that would cut the log either faster or same time.
@CHRISTAN GUAJARDO I'm guessing you are a moron? I'm not heated but it made me laugh to see some yanks try "big up" an American tool Vs another countries tool lol
Your buck saw is like 20x the size of the Silky... and they are used in completely different applications. It should be called "Right tool for the job vs. The wrong tool for the job" This test just tells a story of bias and disregard for accuracy to benefit said bias. If you wanted to do something accurate and unbiased you would have used a Japanese timber saw.
This is a good test but I think it would be more accurate if the saws were of a similar length. Instead of the Silky Big Boy, use the Silky Katana Boy. They're much closer in cut stroke and would be a much better test. As it is, you're comparing apples to oranges.
AZ Patriot I totally agree; that was a lot of fun to watch but, for a true comparison a "Katana Boy" would be in the same class as a buck saw. Thanks for the video. 👍
Yes IMO a Katanaboy in the same hands would crush that bucksaw. The obvious lack of equitibility in this contest is ridiculous. Might as well put a laplander up against a chainsaw
I want to see you doing a delimbing comparison. You know, what these Japanese saws were actually made for. I would think the Buck Saw would be a bit cumbersome to wield in an apple orchard...
I like the idea, but I have to call foul! The Japanese saw needs to be more comparable. At least A Silky Katana Boy 500 if not the 650. The curve of the blade on this shorter saw, and how it has to be held is making this an unfair fight. They need to be more similar strokes.
This was not a fair test because the Japanese use logging saws also! The test should be equal length saw blades! I think the Japanese saw will win every time! Thank you.
No sign of the 1000 yet and it would seriously lay waste to the buck saw...half that log would be bucked up before the buck saw got done it's first cut
I bet the old lumberjacks (pre-chainsaw) would drop their saws in a hot minute once someone handed them a current model chainsaw (the original chainsaws looked like death machines)
the type of saw for this job in japan is called maebiki-nokogiri I believe . There are some good videos on you tube about japanese woodworkers . But you are somehow right japanese and korean have the same kind of tools . :)))
Cody, it's been a long time coming and I think all of us agree that you've got to go back to this channel's roots. Anyone else remember when this was a loctite channel?
Great fun! I notice that the crosscut saw cuts on both pull and push... but the tooth spacing is altogether different. Given the rate that the sawdust was flying, I thought it would be a closer finish!
Tools are generally crafted for specific usage. I would ask the following: Which of these two saws would you take into a forest of bamboo for your cutting work? The western saw was designed for exactly the type of cutting you see in the video above. The Japanese saw was not.
The arm motion used on the Japanese saw is twice, maybe 3 times that of the Buck Saw. It just seems to be more work with less productivity. I think I'll stick to sewing and crafting, thank you very much! Nicely done video and informative. Thank you.
Thing is.. there are Japanese log crosscut saws, which usually extend anywhere between 1/2 and 1 meter from the handle to get full cut strokes just like Westerns.. and have depth teeth just like westerns too to deal with dust. Why are you using a branching saw for the comparison?
Wranglerstar your saw was doing more work which meant you needed to be in better shape or needed more rest time. You should start the test and not stop it to see which saw cuts through first and or which person passes out. Haha
The buck saw was definitely less work. The Japanese saw looked to take 3 strokes to 1 for the buck saw. Of course taking into consideration for the length comparison of both saws. Liked the bark scraper. Working on one now for myself. Thanks for the idea.
I have that same "Double Mountain Brewery" shirt! I bought it when I was on a West Coast trip with my pregnant wife. The amazing part of that trip, one that gave me chills, was that I called my father from Hood River on the 30th anniversary of Mt. St. Hellens blowing. I didn't know this ahead of time, but saw info about the anniversary in the local paper. My father said he was also in Hood River on that exact same date 30 years ago for the eruption. He thought it was the end of the world. Being a Minnesotan that was the only time I'd been to Oregon. What are the odds I'd be in that exact spot on that exact date?! Funny world.
Great vid..... I managed to find a saw similar to that bucking saw in an antiques shop, I sharpened it up "of a fashion", oh it cuts really well so much easier than the bow saw I've got.
A japanede saw, especially that one is not made for cutting trough logs an other such of big cuts, its made for handcrafting tings or other kinds of smaller projects...
Arvid Norberg That saw is designed to prune tree limbs. Was specifically designed for forestry workers to prune trees while in them or on ladders. It has no use in woodworking.
As someone who competed in logging shows you lots a bunch of time on the buck saw with all that seesaw motion.. Keep the saw flatter and use all the saw teeth. For a good whooping on the Japanize saw, switch from the Peg and Raker to a M-Tooth and watch the chips fly! The M-Tooth woiuld of been through in 15 -20 seconds.
Now, had Brian used the correct or the Japanese version of the buck saw, he'd have been through that log in about half the time it took for the bucksaw. This was a totally off balanced "Comparison" , A bucksaw compared to a limbing, or chasing saw is totally off kilter there.
A lot of you missed when he said there's a lot of people asking him why he doesn't use his Japanese folding/gardening saws for everything. This is a reply to them.
I had a 1998 XR250 I bought with summer job money when I was in JR. High in the early 2000's sold it in like 2008. Really regret that. Wasn't very fast off the line, and it was unstable/squirelly at or near top speed, however it was super reliable. I only ever changed the oil, and chains and sprockets once in a while, no other maintenance really and it always ran perfect. And I rode it hard. Replaced it with a 1996 Suzuki RMX250 two stroke, much much faster needless to say. The RMX was really easy to ride wheelies. I sold the Suzuki because thought the engine was on the way out and got a 1995 Yamaha WR250 two stroke. Loved that bike, extremely fast and stable at all speeds. Had a mild port job done on it, higher compression YZ head gasket, had an FMF fatty pipe and silencer, boysen reeds, twin air high flow filter, tuned and jetted it so it ran clean. It was a great and very fast bike, another one I wish I didn't sell. I'll always have fond memories of the XR though, my first full size dirt bike (and most bullet proof)
No it's like bringing one of those three foot razor sharp Sushi knives to a sword fight It's still going to get broken but it is pretty invaluable for its intended use
My grandpa fashioned a window weight on the end of his bucksaw. The added weight and inertia made it cut much faster. Never seen this on any other saw and have no idea where that one went. If anyone could reproduce this hack, I'm sure it would be you.
If you used a small wedge in the buck saw cut it will make it cut better because the wedge pushes the wood apart and stretches the fibers and makes it cut easier
They're okay. Just don't put them against a Eucalyptus or some Palo Verde. Do yourself a favor and just buy something Swede. It's pricey but we'll worth the money.
A carpenter's hand crosscut saw does cut on the "push" but these forestry timber crosscut saws cut both ways. You can see the chisel teeth aiming back and forward. You can clearly see at 6:50 the pile of sawdust on the opposite side of Cody's log cut is a significant pile.
Wranglerstar, by my limited knowledge of saws both of the saws used there are actually push-pull saws. Tooth design determines if saw is a push; a pull; or a push-pull. If the leading edge of the teeth is more or less 90° and the trailing edge at an angle then the direction of cutting is towards the side of the 90° of the tooth. A hacksaw blade is a good example of this. Both of the saws used here have matching angles (As far as I can tell in the closeups) and will cut equally as well in both directions; but that will vary according to the direction the operator puts the most effort into. (Just like finished wood hand saws which also have similar angles on both front and back of the teeth.) The design of the handle of western wood saws lends itself to adding down force on the forwards motion applying greater power to the forwards or pushing motion. Pulling on the handle of the larger saw used actually has a lifting affect to the saw; but if it had a long straight handle it would be equally as good cutting in both push and pull with similar human effort applied to both directions.
How did I end up here? I know nothing about saws (again how did I end up here) and I can tell this comparison is flawed. Physics much? It's like comparing regular shoes to snow shoes and seeing which pair allows a faster run speed on dry land.
Very fun video to watch. Yes!!! In Japan , we have logging saws like Maebiki or Oga (Name of the big logging saws). Just for fun, it will be okay, and for the work, we recommend the right saw for the right work.
So WD40 is the new product placement.....Out with the Loctite in with the WD40.....Very clever Cody......else you could have used Kerosene like the 'old timers'.....hehe
Will Cushman; Not really, kerosene is distilled diesel fuel which is an extremely good solvent for removing stuff like sap and asphalt. The WD-40 is more lubricant than a solvent. The kerosene would actually work considerably better at keeping sap off the saw. If you ever get a bunch of asphalt on your car, diesel will take it right off. Worked for an Asphalt machinery repair company and diesel is what we used to take off inches of old asphalt stuck on the machines. Sprayed on at came back the next day and it was falling off. Crude oil>fuel oil>diesel>kerosene>paint thinner>charcoal lighter fluid.
Not a fair test either way. The mind set of 2 cultures butting together. #1- Buck Saw: Can be used by man or switch the handle about and it's a 2 man saw. #2- Oriental styled saw: Fashioned where steel costs were beyond average woodworker, so we're made thinner and to e used as pull saws for cut . Each fit their area's needs though a world apart .
Um. That looks like a western-style orchardists pruning saw which is simply made in Japan. This is basically "Small western saw vs big western saw." It doesn't even appear to be a pull-stroke design. The Japanese saw that is actually the equivalent of your big western saw is a Maebiki-Nokogiri (Whaleback Saw) or Sakimaru (Willow-Leaf-Saw). A video comparing the two would be much more interesting. The Whaleback is usually a rip saw for cutting planks, but I think the Sakimaru is a crosscut.
That’s not a fair comparison because the western style crosscut is literally designed for cutting large logs whereas the Japanese saw is basically for gardening and pruning and trimming small trees
Hold on. He literally not only yanked out completely the japanese saw. Yet when you looked at how far deep the Japanese saw actually cut. The guy literally was sawing no longer sawing down to where it originally cut but in the same position the entire time then slowly raising the cut higher instead of continuing to go downward. The Japanese saw was clearly winning at the beginning. Then when they decided to switch all of a sudden they stopped pressing down on the saw. The fact the Japanese saw kept getting pulled out in the first place while they let the other one rest in the wood is suspect alone. This seems intentionally biased.
Mind Yours I did. Thanks for the reminder. Clearly the Japanese saw was at a disadvantage on this log, at first he was going faster then started to slow down where as the bigger saw remained constant throughout
Let me guess, the semi industrial saw will win against the gardening japanese saw.
Next episode you should try to lift a car with a toy quadcopter vs a Chinook.
Yankees weighting the game in their favour? ‘Murica!!!!
How’s about buck saw vs Stihl MS351? That’s German.
Mate the irony is Japanese woods saws even at the industrial level still look smilies to this. The main issue with this one is the folding. A traditional Japanese wood saw doesn’t fold meaning it has much long blade. But you are right they are comparing like with not like, the blade is 2 small for that job. On separate test with a small tree the Japanese won, this was just a bad test.
@@Teabag-jt Yeah, I'd like to see this redone with something like the new 26" Katana Boy.
Nice analogy.......
@@DappsJames Mcculloch 125 sp vs stihl 090
The point of a Japanese saw is that you take long strokes, applying little downward pressure, the saw will do the work while you simply move it back and forth. There are Japanese saws that are meant for cutting logs like that, and they do cut “faster” due to finer teeth. A western saw is literally for getting a rough cut, where the log will be split and re-sawn to exact dimensions at a mill. A Japanese saw is for cleaner cuts, where a mill is not practical, they’re also designed to use less energy because they cut in the pull stroke...as long as you’re using it right. If you got this far, thank you for reading. Have an amazing day, and make sure you get something done today, whether that’s brushing your teeth, or building a house, accomplish something today.👍
cool message off to be productive might order that saw so i can do some wood work or.. go pick up these battery connectors' and use them to seek first the kingdom of God
I brushed my teeth
Might be a little late to the party here but I love you dude. Very inspiring words.
@@teslacoil5378 yes
The end of your comment really hit me.
Fair one.
Lol this is hilarious.
Here's the same scenario.
"Hello!! Today we're gonna compare a tooth brush to a regulare size mop and see which one of the two will mop half of the room the fastest"
Are you using a push mop or a pull mop? Bamboo handle or hickory? 4 foot or 18"? 😄
100% They should have put a larger silky against the traditional saw. Would have resulted in a different outcome !
That's like comparing a steak knife to a machete, the size difference were obviously tailored for different means.
thats because americans are bad losers! true story
Damn right were sore losers!
@@johannespfaller5202 Damn, guess you owed it to us dropping a bomb like that, guess that makes the score 2-1 US
america does have the world's largest stock of hubris
3 foot silky would be closer test.
Look up "Willow Leaf Saw" you will find the right saw to compete with that Buck saw. I have one and it is very fast cutting on green wood.
Cheers from Tokyo
The Tokyo Craftsman the Willow leaf saw that I just checked were for diameters of about 10" is there some that are made to be able to handle bigger logs? What do you think of this www.fine-tools.com/kobiki.html, the first one there named Temagori Nokogiri Crosscut would that also be a good choice?
The reason the large buck saw isn't as popular, is because men aren't capable of operating them efficiently anymore.
Silky Katanaboy 650 would be a better comparison. Other UA-camrs have done this test already. The crosscut still wins on anything over 8 in. Anything less and the 650 wins. Of course a chainsaw beats them both.
silky katanaboy 650 vs crosscut ua-cam.com/video/SFeCUdnk48g/v-deo.html
Thanks for the video. Now imagine if the logger does it all day.
"Hello! Today we will be shooting a target at 1000 meters! I have a 50 BMG and my buddy here has a daisy BB gun! This is gunna be interesting!"
Seriously wtf
.... I don't know how I got here.... I was watching laptop reviews like 5 minutes ago..
Lancine Keita i agree with you
Same. I was watching dogs having trouble with their toys
Haha...same story here. I was watching first Instant karma videos, then Phalanx vs Legion : Battle of Cynoscephalae and then suddenly i was here wathing this :D
Same here. wth..
yea same, i was watching fingerboard tutorials
This is like comparing a machete to an X-Acto knife
The machete wins
MattehWizard r/woosh
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MattehWizard r/facepalm
MattehWizard r/nowayyy
You are using the wrong type of Japanese saw, Japanese saws have several different versions. This was a unfair comparison
Last I checked you only need one kind of American saw🇺🇸
@@Stfu9785 Because Americans just saw for the sake of sawing, Japanese saw to get the tree in the best condition thus using certain saws for certain jobs lol
jamie goode Wdym saw for the sake of sawing? Last I check that’s all you can do, I’m sure the Japanese saw is good at cutting down bamboo, but you can’t really use it to cut anything else. Just sayin you could cut down more varieties and diameters of trees with the buck saw and that’s why it’s superior.
@@Stfu9785 You'll find the Japanese have numerous types of saw for different jobs, trees etc, the one they used wasn't applicable for the job.....there's a much thicker 2 handed one that would cut the log either faster or same time.
@CHRISTAN GUAJARDO I'm guessing you are a moron? I'm not heated but it made me laugh to see some yanks try "big up" an American tool Vs another countries tool lol
i'm watching people cut wood on youtube... i need to get a hold of my life
Your buck saw is like 20x the size of the Silky... and they are used in completely different applications. It should be called "Right tool for the job vs. The wrong tool for the job" This test just tells a story of bias and disregard for accuracy to benefit said bias. If you wanted to do something accurate and unbiased you would have used a Japanese timber saw.
Just for fun buddy.
Kinda but not really, they were comparing two things and used something tiny on a massive log against something designed for that purpose
Weeb Detected.
I'm joking btw, gotta admit Glorious Nippon Steel is pretty good.
Thomas Reid
READ THE TITLE and Thumbnail.
this is such a great comparison test...2feet saw vs. 4feet saw.....really proud of this people someone give them an award
This is a good test but I think it would be more accurate if the saws were of a similar length. Instead of the Silky Big Boy, use the Silky Katana Boy. They're much closer in cut stroke and would be a much better test. As it is, you're comparing apples to oranges.
AZ Patriot
I totally agree; that was a lot of fun to watch but, for a true comparison a "Katana Boy" would be in the same class as a buck saw. Thanks for the video. 👍
AZ Patriot good point.
Why can't you compare apples to oranges?
Poor Man's Preparing ikr I prefer apples myself 😂
Yes IMO a Katanaboy in the same hands would crush that bucksaw. The obvious lack of equitibility in this contest is ridiculous. Might as well put a laplander up against a chainsaw
I want to see you doing a delimbing comparison. You know, what these Japanese saws were actually made for. I would think the Buck Saw would be a bit cumbersome to wield in an apple orchard...
That's not apples to oranges, that's cranberries to watermelons!
Agree
You mean Eggs to lettuce ?
ahahaahah
Bill gsmit never heard of those Kool Aid flavors
The silky saw only cuts on the pull. Certainly not a valid comparison. Next test on the 8 inch log the silky will fly through it
MY DUDE... HAVEN'T WATCHED YOUR CHANNEL FOR HALF AN YEAR AND YOU PASSED 1 MILLION SUBS. WELL DONE 👍
I like the idea, but I have to call foul! The Japanese saw needs to be more comparable. At least A Silky Katana Boy 500 if not the 650. The curve of the blade on this shorter saw, and how it has to be held is making this an unfair fight. They need to be more similar strokes.
This was not a fair test because the Japanese use logging saws also! The test should be equal length saw blades! I think the Japanese saw will win every time! Thank you.
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If you say that then they need a better quality western saw, then western saw will win every time, plus they got eurobeat.
Silky Saw 650 Katanaboy... Would have been much much more appropriate
DropForgedSurvival There's a 1000 version too
Why don't they just use a regular Katana to chop the wood in half with one smoothe cut
@@danielpintjuk Bru
did you know .. there is many type of saw in japan . not only the one in this video.. but still go with this little one . lright then haha
Bucksaw vs katanaboy 650 or 1000 would be much closer i believe.
Correct, this test is asinine with the big boy. As you said the 650 would make it a fair fight, AND its still much more portable.
smaller teeth would still remove less wood
Katanaboy 650 would be through that in a minute or so without breaking a breath...
Is the Katana boy 1000 available yet? I think either would spank the bucksaw
No sign of the 1000 yet and it would seriously lay waste to the buck saw...half that log would be bucked up before the buck saw got done it's first cut
You guys should look into “chain-saws”. It’s like a motorized saw that I’ve heard can cut through wood fast.
I bet the old lumberjacks (pre-chainsaw) would drop their saws in a hot minute once someone handed them a current model chainsaw (the original chainsaws looked like death machines)
rjtumble Not only were they death machines, they could also try out for a spot on My 600 Pound Life.
I grew up in a huge logging town, can confirm that old chains were death machines
rjtumble oh I know
Especially those old versions of the two man chainsaws. Tikes
t00bsox no there are dumb lumberjacks, just many have become skilled at their craft and lack in other areas.
Of course there is a difference in the speed and efficiency of a small saw compared to a bigger one especially when using both to cut a large log.
Great video! Thanks! Would like to see an actual Japanese log/timber saw be tested.
definetely not the right japanese saw to use for such a job ! Japanes tools are the rolex of woodworking tools ! No doubt !
Igor Cornelis I use that same saw Japanese saw for larger bamboo cuts...maybe a Korean saw would compete...
the type of saw for this job in japan is called maebiki-nokogiri I believe . There are some good videos on you tube about japanese woodworkers . But you are somehow right japanese and korean have the same kind of tools . :)))
finnish tools are the mercedes-benz of wood tools
"Everything in Japan is smaller." LMAO
True
Good video on using the right tool for the job vs using the wrong tool for the same job.
I had a good laugh.
Good luck with that new Bike, sound like its a little gem.
American's pride ? Unfair fight's. As always
Cody, it's been a long time coming and I think all of us agree that you've got to go back to this channel's roots.
Anyone else remember when this was a loctite channel?
I don't watch this kinda content but it felt so satisfying watching it so I guess my satisfying video recommended vids got me here
Great fun!
I notice that the crosscut saw cuts on both pull and push... but the tooth spacing is altogether different.
Given the rate that the sawdust was flying, I thought it would be a closer finish!
Tools are generally crafted for specific usage. I would ask the following: Which of these two saws would you take into a forest of bamboo for your cutting work? The western saw was designed for exactly the type of cutting you see in the video above. The Japanese saw was not.
There are bigger silky saws out there made for this I would like to see a video about that LOL
The arm motion used on the Japanese saw is twice, maybe 3 times that of the Buck Saw. It just seems to be more work with less productivity. I think I'll stick to sewing and crafting, thank you very much! Nicely done video and informative. Thank you.
Good vid but the katanaboy would been a better match, me personally don't think that was a fair duel... jmo
I loved the gleeful smile during the entire exercise. Looks fun.
I would love to see a video where Brian shows his edc. I'm curious as to what knives he's carrying.
Thing is.. there are Japanese log crosscut saws, which usually extend anywhere between 1/2 and 1 meter from the handle to get full cut strokes just like Westerns.. and have depth teeth just like westerns too to deal with dust. Why are you using a branching saw for the comparison?
Wranglerstar your saw was doing more work which meant you needed to be in better shape or needed more rest time. You should start the test and not stop it to see which saw cuts through first and or which person passes out. Haha
The buck saw was definitely less work. The Japanese saw looked to take 3 strokes to 1 for the buck saw. Of course taking into consideration for the length comparison of both saws. Liked the bark scraper. Working on one now for myself. Thanks for the idea.
now switch saws.
I have that same "Double Mountain Brewery" shirt! I bought it when I was on a West Coast trip with my pregnant wife. The amazing part of that trip, one that gave me chills, was that I called my father from Hood River on the 30th anniversary of Mt. St. Hellens blowing. I didn't know this ahead of time, but saw info about the anniversary in the local paper. My father said he was also in Hood River on that exact same date 30 years ago for the eruption. He thought it was the end of the world. Being a Minnesotan that was the only time I'd been to Oregon. What are the odds I'd be in that exact spot on that exact date?! Funny world.
i have work at 7 am what am i doing
Great vid..... I managed to find a saw similar to that bucking saw in an antiques shop, I sharpened it up "of a fashion", oh it cuts really well so much easier than the bow saw I've got.
I was waiting for someone with a chainsaw to jump in and take over lol
At last! You have no idea how many nights sleep I've lost over this very subject..
A japanede saw, especially that one is not made for cutting trough logs an other such of big cuts, its made for handcrafting tings or other kinds of smaller projects...
Arvid Norberg That saw is designed to prune tree limbs. Was specifically designed for forestry workers to prune trees while in them or on ladders. It has no use in woodworking.
Ceryk
My JAPANESE saw is made for it and nothing else!
@@XCerykX I mean that's not even the biggest pruning saw that that company sells
As someone who competed in logging shows you lots a bunch of time on the buck saw with all that seesaw motion.. Keep the saw flatter and use all the saw teeth. For a good whooping on the Japanize saw, switch from the Peg and Raker to a M-Tooth and watch the chips fly! The M-Tooth woiuld of been through in 15 -20 seconds.
Now, had Brian used the correct or the Japanese version of the buck saw, he'd have been through that log in about half the time it took for the bucksaw. This was a totally off balanced "Comparison" , A bucksaw compared to a limbing, or chasing saw is totally off kilter there.
You are just salty
A lot of you missed when he said there's a lot of people asking him why he doesn't use his Japanese folding/gardening saws for everything. This is a reply to them.
I bet the Japenese saw would've wn had it been the same length as the crosscut/buck saw.
Joseph Haynes only losers say if..
Joseph Haynes or used properly.. He needs only the pulling action
its all about the size and setting of the teeth. compare both teeth and you know the answer
exactly
Jay Burton good thing he didn't use 'if'.
At 6:42 why did you recut from the top with the Japanese saw after you mad it half way the first time?
"I should go sleep early!"
*Me at 3am*
Do you even English loser
I have a crosscut saw similar to yours Wranglerstar, that’s missing the helper handle! Do you know where I could find one?!?
Any plans on fishing?
Yeah, that would be fun to watch em doing it!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
I had a 1998 XR250 I bought with summer job money when I was in JR. High in the early 2000's sold it in like 2008. Really regret that. Wasn't very fast off the line, and it was unstable/squirelly at or near top speed, however it was super reliable. I only ever changed the oil, and chains and sprockets once in a while, no other maintenance really and it always ran perfect. And I rode it hard. Replaced it with a 1996 Suzuki RMX250 two stroke, much much faster needless to say. The RMX was really easy to ride wheelies. I sold the Suzuki because thought the engine was on the way out and got a 1995 Yamaha WR250 two stroke. Loved that bike, extremely fast and stable at all speeds. Had a mild port job done on it, higher compression YZ head gasket, had an FMF fatty pipe and silencer, boysen reeds, twin air high flow filter, tuned and jetted it so it ran clean. It was a great and very fast bike, another one I wish I didn't sell. I'll always have fond memories of the XR though, my first full size dirt bike (and most bullet proof)
Turn the volume up, minimize browser and imagine its a sexual scenario. Its just amazing. Start from 3:30 . Its just hilarious :DDD
Whats wrong with that?
more fun to do this with the show "cops"
I apreciate your humor sir, got a few good chuckles from that :D
this one was good i actually did that :D
lmao, u rite
Im noticing not only a difference in effectiveness, but also effort put in for a ratio of effect to effort
Like bringing a butter knife to a sword fight
Absolutely pointless video recommendation youtube
No it's like bringing one of those three foot razor sharp Sushi knives to a sword fight
It's still going to get broken but it is pretty invaluable for its intended use
The saw was made for gardening not cutting a tree
Neat video. What is the brand of the western buck saw? Thanks
I would love to see more of Brian in your videos!
😂 i failed an trought u said "more brain in ur vids"
Jakob Loose lol, I almost typed that
geeze... get a room...
Will K
Me too!! 😉
That was a crazy test... maybe using a japanese person who knows how to use a pull saw!
Roses are red,
Cockatiels love seed,
Why is this on my recommended feed?
My grandpa fashioned a window weight on the end of his bucksaw. The added weight and inertia made it cut much faster. Never seen this on any other saw and have no idea where that one went. If anyone could reproduce this hack, I'm sure it would be you.
LOL...At least you both got your cardio in for today! :-)
If you used a small wedge in the buck saw cut it will make it cut better because the wedge pushes the wood apart and stretches the fibers and makes it cut easier
can you review one of the husky brand axes from homedepot
Noah Cercone yeah, specifically their Michigan style or their splitting maul
They're okay. Just don't put them against a Eucalyptus or some Palo Verde. Do yourself a favor and just buy something Swede. It's pricey but we'll worth the money.
This got recommended right after our video... I am honored haha
Try this again with the silky katana boy
A carpenter's hand crosscut saw does cut on the "push" but these forestry timber crosscut saws cut both ways. You can see the chisel teeth aiming back and forward. You can clearly see at 6:50 the pile of sawdust on the opposite side of Cody's log cut is a significant pile.
opps thought I was watching Mr. Beast with no Mr. Beast in the Video.
Wranglerstar, by my limited knowledge of saws both of the saws used there are actually push-pull saws. Tooth design determines if saw is a push; a pull; or a push-pull. If the leading edge of the teeth is more or less 90° and the trailing edge at an angle then the direction of cutting is towards the side of the 90° of the tooth. A hacksaw blade is a good example of this.
Both of the saws used here have matching angles (As far as I can tell in the closeups) and will cut equally as well in both directions; but that will vary according to the direction the operator puts the most effort into. (Just like finished wood hand saws which also have similar angles on both front and back of the teeth.) The design of the handle of western wood saws lends itself to adding down force on the forwards motion applying greater power to the forwards or pushing motion.
Pulling on the handle of the larger saw used actually has a lifting affect to the saw; but if it had a long straight handle it would be equally as good cutting in both push and pull with similar human effort applied to both directions.
"Everything's a bit smaller in Japan" ooooh, shots fired
I finished the whole video. I'm not even interested on lumberjack or saws or anything closely related to it but these video was entertaining.
forget that old technology.....gimme a Husky or Stihl anyday....!
And gas and oil
Fun fact: Hand used saws are usually made for certain types of woods, maybe in that country and or area.
How did I end up here? I know nothing about saws (again how did I end up here) and I can tell this comparison is flawed. Physics much? It's like comparing regular shoes to snow shoes and seeing which pair allows a faster run speed on dry land.
I thought the thumbnail was two guys sawing a crocodile for a second
The video starts at 4:45.
Brian gets in 3-5 strokes for each of yours. It's like watching Blinkin from Robin Hood: Men in Tights.
Whoever made a comment like that is obviously clueless.
It's 5AM and I'm watching this like a champ.
EDIT: And I'm totally watching the next one.
wRONG sILKY. nOT A FAIR COMPARISON.
Very fun video to watch. Yes!!! In Japan , we have logging saws like Maebiki or Oga (Name of the big logging saws). Just for fun, it will be okay, and for the work, we recommend the right saw for the right work.
So WD40 is the new product placement.....Out with the Loctite in with the WD40.....Very clever Cody......else you could have used Kerosene like the 'old timers'.....hehe
WD40 is mostly kerosene.
No, it most certainly is not. In fact there is ZERO percent Kerosene in WD-40. Old wives tales, Will.
Will Cushman; Not really, kerosene is distilled diesel fuel which is an extremely good solvent for removing stuff like sap and asphalt. The WD-40 is more lubricant than a solvent. The kerosene would actually work considerably better at keeping sap off the saw. If you ever get a bunch of asphalt on your car, diesel will take it right off. Worked for an Asphalt machinery repair company and diesel is what we used to take off inches of old asphalt stuck on the machines. Sprayed on at came back the next day and it was falling off. Crude oil>fuel oil>diesel>kerosene>paint thinner>charcoal lighter fluid.
next video is "my wife with a steak knife vs me with a chainsaw cuting a tree"
I’m pretty sure the chainsaw wins
The first few whacks Brian took to the bark it sounded like another one bites the dust
You can skip to 4.40 before anything happens .....
Not a fair test either way. The mind set of 2 cultures butting together.
#1- Buck Saw:
Can be used by man or switch the handle about and it's a 2 man saw.
#2- Oriental styled saw:
Fashioned where steel costs were beyond average woodworker, so we're made thinner and to e used as pull saws for cut .
Each fit their area's needs though a world apart .
you need the katana boy
Um. That looks like a western-style orchardists pruning saw which is simply made in Japan. This is basically "Small western saw vs big western saw." It doesn't even appear to be a pull-stroke design.
The Japanese saw that is actually the equivalent of your big western saw is a Maebiki-Nokogiri (Whaleback Saw) or Sakimaru (Willow-Leaf-Saw). A video comparing the two would be much more interesting. The Whaleback is usually a rip saw for cutting planks, but I think the Sakimaru is a crosscut.
it's like he's hitting the microphone.
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That’s not a fair comparison because the western style crosscut is literally designed for cutting large logs whereas the Japanese saw is basically for gardening and pruning and trimming small trees
Hold on. He literally not only yanked out completely the japanese saw. Yet when you looked at how far deep the Japanese saw actually cut. The guy literally was sawing no longer sawing down to where it originally cut but in the same position the entire time then slowly raising the cut higher instead of continuing to go downward. The Japanese saw was clearly winning at the beginning. Then when they decided to switch all of a sudden they stopped pressing down on the saw. The fact the Japanese saw kept getting pulled out in the first place while they let the other one rest in the wood is suspect alone. This seems intentionally biased.
Mind Yours yeah total conspiracy against Japan right here
+Jock Bauer I love how that was your take away from what I stated. Instead of focusing on the saws itself. Great job.
Mind Yours Stick with facts bro
How about you pay attention to what you're watching 'bro'.
Mind Yours I did. Thanks for the reminder. Clearly the Japanese saw was at a disadvantage on this log, at first he was going faster then started to slow down where as the bigger saw remained constant throughout
I feel so satisfied when you peel tree's skin/bark whatever you call it
why not western saw vs chain saw?
5:10 your boi once you hear it you can't unheard it