Between the Mosque and the Military - Hussain Haqqani - TPE Book Summary from 1947 to Zia
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- TPE's Book of the month was Hussain Haqqani's 'Between the Mosque and the Military' - in this video we discuss the first three chapters of the book.
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Podcast with Hussain Haqqani:
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Please do podcast about Indian ancient mathematicians, scientists,scholars, grammarians, astrologers may be it open the mind of Pakistanis into these things.
Can u discuss book by Christine fair ?
All religions teaches love for others but only Islam teaches to kill others (all) who does not believe in Allah..
need a subtitle writer or translator in english do let me know.
Accept that the experiment of your forefathers to create a new country called Pakistan by breaking away from India has failed. A glaring example of this is clearly standing before you in a country called Bangladesh. Remember that your own ancestors raided India for plunder to drive out Buddhism from India.
The last time I read this book Pakistan between Mosque and Military that was some 10 years back. After reading it I was really astounded by its content and appreciated the frankness and boldness of the author. I salute Hussain Haqqani for all his work about showing the real picture and state of Pakistan to the whole world and look what happened to him now, he is not allowed to live in his birthplace. Recently last month I again bought a hard cover copy of the book with some added chapters to the original 1st edition of 2005. Pakistan needs people like HH to guide and steer it in this hopeless situation but alas they are banned from coming back. A must read by the ones who are interested about the ongoing problems and situation of Pakistan.
Book meetings spanning all sort of genre would be a crazy idea . I love it . Every month at least one book ! Thanks Shahzad for all these insights .
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Loving the content that you're producing these days. So much flair, so much knowledge. Keep up the good work Brother 🙌
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@@ThePakistanExperience ghatia adami tera secular liberal agenda hum khabi kamyaab nahi hona deinga kitna chutiyoon ko tou apna picha laga lai laiga agar hum nai secular hi rehna tha tou phir pakistan ka maqsad kaya tha
Yes this is the most unbiased of his reports. Good job👌 showing signs of maturity!🎉 (having an elite perspective in most other of his earlier podcasts--at times I wondered why he even bothered to invite learned scholars when he would just persist & ram down his young, limited, unseasoned & elitist views?)
It's worth noting that when you say 17% resources that's because the population was also 17% of the whole. That the army was much bigger was because it had a higher proportion of people from present day Pakistan. If there was good leadership then that would have been right sized. But poor leadership meant the Army got a country instead of the other way around. It also played a part in hyping up the threat from India. If India was a real threat then after 71 India would have essentially kept Bangladesh but didn't. Even now Bangladesh spends less on military than Pakistan despite being surrounded on all sides by India and is growing faster than Pakistan.
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@@adnanraza6670 what wrong has he said?
But the military was 30/40 %😢😅
@@khadija4801 That should have been fixed by the leadership in Pakistan. It was 30 40 % because those people in the pre independence Indian army chose to go to Pakistan.
@@khadija4801 The military recruitment base was Punjab and Pakistan got 54% of Punjab thus it also got higher proportion of Indian Army.
More power to citizens like you - may God bless you 🙏🙏
Absolutely great idea shehzad bhai, with book discussions we can have many different ideas and opinions which can be very helpful for addressing issues and finding the probable solutions.
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Excellent review. This perhaps could be your biggest contribution to creating an aware society, one that reads, ponders, has an open mind about their own long held beliefs and one that is not only not afraid to concede its shortcomings but also brave enough to move forward and put things right, it all starts with reading and knowing the history. Thank you!!!!
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of course we want a second part. looking forward to it.
Thank you!
First time ever someone has answered my question which i have been looking the answer for, for ages, that how did Military gain power in Pakistan. Thank you sir 🫡
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It is very informative. Please don't stop this series of book reviews.
Enjoyed watching it. Yes , Please upload 2nd part. .
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bro you are doing the great work.
The main reason of this manipulated Islamic dominance is because only these persons are available to audience and no one is giving the message of secularism and exposing them.
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I agreed we need more people to challange these religious scholars misguided views
Call Maj Gaurav Arya retd. He will turn out to be a completely different person on a podcast.
"Pakistan Between Mosque and Military" is an eye-opening book.
I myself am reading this book these days.
When I bought the book and started reading it, I was shocked to see that chapter 5: "Afghan Jihad" and chapter 6: "Military Rule By Other Means" were missing. But, I was determined to read them anyway. So, I downloaded its soft copy from google, and read them.
Bro- while I don’t agree with some of your views but you are doing a great service to Pakistan. Keep going! We need more people like you.
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This is very interesting and informative. We should have its second part as well.
Thank you
Shahzad, you briefed it superbly
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Yes please do. A zoom meeting where only a selected few can actively contribute to avoid the disturbers, would be preferred. The speakers can be from both sides of the aisle.
Good initiative. We can recognise our scholar and renowned authors who store critical movement with their pen stroke. It can ignite critical thinking in masses with widespread recognition & then we shall start honouring our true heros rather than pointing finger at them.
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My favourite writer Hussain Haqqani. ❤
Have Major Gorav Arya some day. He is a nice guy.
He is a far right person who spread 90% propaganda of the state and 10% fact's just like Indian media whereas we want hear people who are intellectual maybe druve rathe type
Book meeting on a zoom would be a great idea because you have a online community. And a small zoom meeting once in two months. Questions about the podcasts and guests. You're doing a great work and best of luck, Shehzad :)
Excellent..kudos from Calcutta
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Thank you Shehzad for such a comprehensive explanation- so proud of your continued efforts - 👏👏👏
Brilliant! You are breath of fresh air for Pakistan! I hope you keep making such informative and critical videos 💞💞
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I always listen to Haqqani ji whenever it is news or opinion related to Pakistan.
The more I see and listen to your podcast (to be honest as an Indian, I don’t have similar Indian podcasts that match your rational and critical analysis despite disagreements on some points) I see hope and also concern for what is happening to the people who are basically the same race as mine.
Pakistan to many Indians is a tale of two brothers dividing family property and having disputes. The main thing is that they are brothers. Honestly, I feel all the more blessed to have more saner, rational leaders that kept the country intact, passed laws to benefit common citizens, and most importantly helped maintain democracy and its institutions.
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Let’s set up a time to read the book and then do a Twitter space or zoom meeting. I love thé idea of discussing books. I read his magnificent delusions and it was a great primer on the early days of Pakistan. Great job Shehzad! ❤
Great job on the content that you're producing 🙌. Can you please also name some other neutral books like witnessing the surrender that talk about 1971 and the events leading to it?
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All religions teaches love for others but only Islam teaches to kill others (all) who does not believe in Allah..
Thx. Very useful. Please do continue doing book reviews and providing an overview of history from various angles.
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Shehzad bhai yeh bahot sahi Kiya. Vaise toh Maine koi kitaab nai padhni sirf kharidni he hai but shayad isse kuch motivation mil jaey!! Keep it up the good work!!👍
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آپ پہلے پاکستانی ہیں جو کسی کتاب کا ریویو دے رہے ہو.
بہت خوب 👏
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man listening to all your stuff on youtube inspired me to finally write the book ive been meaning to write for years. thanks for being an inspiration bro
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I am witness to what you have mentioned in your Vlog.
MR. Hussain Haqqani used to be the President of Islami Jamiat Talaba Pakistan and he used to enjoy more or less same charisma which later Altaf Hussain took over through APMSO.
It's all history now, and we are reaping the harvest of 'Islamic Revolution' of 'Mard-e-Momin'.
We will continue to suffer as long as our ruling elite adheres to the oft repeated blunders it has committed and continues to commit to-date.
Yes please do more on this topic. Any format would work but this is a very good idea to discuss books like these on the podcast.
Have started watching your podcasts recently and must say that I have enjoyed the format and the guests. I like the critical thinking discussions and hope more people start to open their minds. Kudos to you Shehzad. Well done
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It's a classic book sir recently i read this👍
Read all his Books. All very informative and interesting.
I agree
Please discuss part 2 also, it's very informative, learned many historical facts today, so please keep it up
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Allah ap ko lambi zindgi dy , company ko ap jesy bndy nai pasand jo sach bolen , but now time has changed company lost its power . We are with you ❤❤
Part 2, please! Been trying to read this book since years but somehow I find it incredibly difficult to stay focused when reading about politics
Same issue😏
Great content as always 👏
Book discussion online or in person is a great idea
Love mr haqqani his books made me interested in Pakistan
As per Pak Studies Books, Pakistan is made for kalma, even Saudi Arabia is not made for kalma.Pakistani are azeem kaum, Pakistani have jazba. Pakistanis have iman as Muslims have iman. Pak Army no 1 in the world, ISI no 1 in world. Pakistani are jangoo kaum, Pakistan will Insha Insha rule the world. Gen Lal Topee will start Gawaza a Hind and Pakistani sabaj parcham will fly in Delhi. Every Pakistani is born and brought up on hating others.
lol. you are wrong
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You are Mixing lies with exaggerated truth
believe me i did not knew about this at all,thanks alot for leting us know about pakistan's dark past
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Books discussion is a great initiative Shehzad
Excellent! A comedian with an extraordinary grip on the thought processing and politics. A delight for the ears. This book review initiative is more than welcomed. 💯
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There is a comedian in this world who is president of Ukraine and the whole world is watching how bravely he is facing Russia so please don't underestimate anyone on the basis of their passion.
@@mt6611 First thing first, I haven't judged him. Second thing, for me, comedians have their unique perspective of seeing the world, which is a good one. From a very young age, I have been a fan of comedians.
As far as Zelensky is concerned, he is a fool, and I am not going to debate on this. Bravery, without prudence, is a jewelry of fools.
Beautiful Shahzad bhai.
A very enlightening experience. Book reviews should be a regular feature of your program.
Excellent!
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Please continue book reviews ❤
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very nice and concise review man...please keep it going by reviewing other good books to enlighten the youth and to make them aware of the atrocities committed by deep state through out the history of this unfortunate country.
I’m an Bengali living in US .Pls make an part 2 of this video
Ultimately a nation adopts what its natural idealogy is.
Wait and watch.
I adore the idea of book discussion groups, whether they be online or in person. Please continue doing this Shehzad 🙏
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Very informative, it should be made into a series or at least some small videos each week
Working on it!
Yes sir pls part 2 b bna de aur baqi ache books ka review b karain q k aisa karne se hamay books prh aur b acha se smajh lete hain
Part 2 is up on our channel
A sane voice in the chaos that we are bombarded with.
Great presentation, young man. History has begun to unfold with the untold truth.
Hussain Hqqani sir book mosque and military is a must for every upsc preparation 😂😂. To know Pakistan better.
Many top AIRs read about it.
He is the best author.
Few topics which is hard to understand.😅
I read a few Indian authors who wrote on Pakistan's history.
God bless you,please keep up.
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yes Shehzad, there must be a part where you provide a brief summary of important books or where you mention those books one must have to read. It will be an additional flavour like that of Syed Muzammil.
Bhai sahib aap nay bhut mufeed malumaat faraham kar deen AAP ka bhut bhut shukria from kpk mardan
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Would love to see Makor Gaurav Arya on your show some day.
I would too
Zabardast! Keep adding to this segment Shehzad bhsi
Gaurav Arya ji ko bulaiye. He is mostly polite and fecent in podcasts and talks respectfully.
You mean Puneet superstar of Indian Army maj Gaurav 😅seriously buht tamizdar hai
Bhai sahib is Tarah mufeed malumaat hamain faraham kar deya karain ye malumaat mein nay apni Zindagi mein pehli bar dekh leen hamaree misal ek kunwain ki FROG ki hay from kpk mardan
We need a second part on this book. I read it back in 2008 and I feel the more we talk about this book, the better it is for Pakistanis, Muslims and Non-Muslims alike as it lays bare the fact that Pakistan for decades was governed by Muslim Fascists with an Orwellian Stonewall complex when it came to Bengalis
In my opinion, this book clearly shows that what was projected back then as Islamic Ideology was in fact Maududian Muslim Nationalism which the civil, military bureaucrats along with Jang and Nawa-e-Waqt used it to inject superiority complex similar to what is done in Israel with the Jewish community
Mr. Haqqani has seen it all. From Jamiat, Jasarat to PTV, PML N, PPP and lastly his interactions with US academia as well as establishment. His book deserves more coverage
Beautiful comment
@@ThePakistanExperience thank you for the kind words team TPE. God bless you guys. Keep up the good work
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Thanks mate, another episode and a book club meeting both are good ideas.
Excellent idea . Please keep up the excellent job of enlightening the nation .
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I do like this book club a lot. Beta do continue.
Thank you. Will do!
Excellent, always so refreshing to hear sane minds discussing history as it should be without biased and emotions. facts , facts and just facts. COUNT ME IN for zoom meeting, discussion on the books.
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Same thing is now happening with Balochistan which is providing the homeland Minerals (gas,coal, Marble,Gold etc) Fruits,Dry fruits, seeds etc but in return getting bomb lasts, missing persons, mutilated corpses, titles of traitors, smugglers etc😢
Make a detailed video on zia ul haq Islamization chapter..us ny kia steps liye thy jis ki waja sy aaj tak saans lena mushkil ho gya hai...♦️
Will do
Thank you very much for your very informative and very interesting program
A podcast with Mr. Hussain Haqqani would be welcome...
On it
Plz hold an online meeting for furthermore debate into this.
Loved this format of book club - pls pls carry it forward -
Very thorough research of yours. Love the format ❤
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ADAB, Hon. Shehzad Ghias Shaikh sahib,
Great .please go for part II. In my humble opinion ,it will be a great master stroke by inviting the writer as a GUEST ...THE one and only one Mr. HUSSAIN HAQANI SAHIB..........later ..........ADIO'S
Did Kashmir happen or was it created by the military leadership of Pakistan??
Also I personally love this format and you definitely should pursue this
Pakistan and the Kashmir problem were created by the British who wanted to keep Soviet Russia away from what has always been the world’s richest country as well as from the oil wells of West Asia. They wanted a small unstable country whose government would constantly be forced to look externally for survival. They would prop up the government and military and in return be able to play the politics that they want to play. Did you know that when Kashmir was invaded by Pakistan in 1947, the commander-in-chiefs of both the Indian and Pakistani armies were British and both got their orders from London?
Excellent. Available for zoom
Shehzaad ji, greetings!
Loved this video, love to listen to you more, hence need longer videos but I understand keeping it short would be good during this age of less attention spans.
As an old timer, I love your longer formats, believe me listen to everything you post.
Just suggesting also posting a longer and more detailed version, as a fan.
Big love and all the best.
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I love the way Ghias bhai improving day by day and providing great information ❤❤
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I would love to see a part 2!
Will make it then
Good attempt by H.H to promote vision of foreign think tanks, lt is better if H.H have describe his role during PNA move?
Book club is a marvelous job. Zoom meeting with the audience is a good idea.
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Book club meeting is a must
Continue to spread knowledge , more power to you.
Please continue book reviews and continue the review of Hussein Haqqani’s book and please interview him as well
Please make a comprehensive video on the causes which led to the separation of East Pakistan, and the role of the rulers and foreign powers ( India, US, USSR) at that time.
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This definitely needs a sequel. Summary of Post Zia Pakistan.
Zia kay Pakistan video goes up today
Excellent video. Very informative. Please make Part 2.
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Great job done , appericiated , a 2nd podcost and book club both are good ideas .
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Zoom sessions over the weekend would give chance to overseas Pakistanis to participate and contribute
Yes, open Discussion in Karachi would be great option.
love to see more of these reviews and looking forward for the 2nd part
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Great format! Very informative!
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Well done show 🎉🎉🎉🎉
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