“The sentence of judgment says these men came to Japan from the Philippines, but I did not come from any other country. I am a true Japanese. The only reason for my being killed is that I have taught the doctrine of Christ. I certainly did teach the doctrine of Christ. I thank God it is for this reason I die. I believe that I am telling only the truth before I die. I know you believe me and I want to say to you all once again: Ask Christ to help you to become happy. I obey Christ. After Christ’s example I forgive my persecutors. I do not hate them. I ask God to have pity on all, and I hope my blood will fall on my fellow men as a fruitful rain.”-Saint Paul Miki
@@Tuberiascaesar The novel this was based on is written by a genuine Japanese Christian (his personal theology isn't the best, but he's a great writer). The director is kinda a lapsed catholic, but I get your point. Most Christian movies suck. There are some secular movies out there though that I think ironically portray Christian messages better than the "Christian movies" do. If you want a historical book about Japanese Christian history I have a couple recommendations. www.amazon.com/Search-Japans-Hidden-Christians-Suppression-ebook/dp/B0076M540G Is a great book going over the entire history of Christianity in Japan. The author sometimes does POV chapters describing his visits to historic sites. His description of hara castle, the place where around 30 thousand Christians were killed (mostly women and children) is chilling. www.amazon.com/Christian-Samurai-Trials-Baba-Bunko/dp/0813228514 Is more of an academic book taking place after the time period of this movie. It talks about the cultural impact of Christianity and gives focus on a specific person, baba bunko. www.amazon.com/Silence-Beauty-Hidden-Faith-Suffering-ebook/dp/B01D1NCYVA Not a history book, but a deep analysis of the book/movie silence. I highly reccomend it to anyone.
@@Tuberiascaesar There is more to it than that. His mother was Christian and he was initially raised Christian (that's how a lot of Christians start) but this was during the time of WW2 where Japan was fighting hard against a nation of Christians. Needless to say Endo's connection to Christianity brought his misery and prejudice. He initially hated Christianity because of it and tried a number of ideologies to replace it. But even though he abandoned the Christian God, he claimed the Christian God didn't abandon him, but called him back. He described it like an arrange marriage to an unattractive women. He didn't want to marry her, and tried to leave her for what appeared to be better looking options. But those women never cared for him, and despite trying to leave the ugly woman again and again, she always welcomed him back like the prodigal son and cared for him. He grew to realize she loved him and he grew to love this ugly woman back. That's why the analogy of the ugly woman is used in the movie. And the priest, instead of rejecting the analogy, he uses it and argues that regardless how you think she looks, it's love that's important. Endo likes using themes of love, suffering, and sacrifice in his novels. In most of his books he argues that we all feel a buried desire for the love he found in Christianity. He often depicts characters striving away from that love as fatigued and wavering away.
@@Tuberiascaesar Yeah, judging from some of the comments they sound like people who'd support 1984 or the fascist movements in the 20th century "protecting national security". It was a fear mostly of an authority figure above any earthly power that scared them the most. "The first commandment urges disobedience to the orders of the sovereign or father if compliance would mean denial of Deus's will; it entreats one to hold life itself cheap in such a situation. In this respect lurks the intention to subvert and usurp the country"-Hadaisu the fact that a daimyo like Ukon would actually refuse to renounce his faith under orders shocked the ruling class. BTW, I looked it back up, turns out the number is closer to 37-40 thousand were executed at hara's castle (only a third of them were adult males) 10 thousand heads were set up on stakes around the castle, 3,300 were sent to Nagasaki to intimidate the people. We got an estimate of how many men vs. Women & children were killed because the women and children had their noses cut off and piled high. To be fair to the Japanese government, these were rebels and rebel family members. But the rebel because of years of harsh treatment as shown in the movie. It's like the slave owner constantly afraid of a slave revolt and thus is even more brutal to his slaves which only encourages a revolt. The government had no one to blame but themselves.
Arrogance of man is to ask God why? Does the clay ask the potter, "Why have you made me thus?" Asking for forgiveness is a continuous activity if we truly understand man's standing before Holy God.Secular moviemakers are blind to how God works everything to his glory. Even our suffering. God spared not his own Son so we might be saved eternally. To ask why we suffer is to misunderstand the gospel of Christ.
This is silly. “To live is in Christ, to die is to gain.” Do you actually believe that? Death is seen as glorious, not something to be avoided. This movie only makes sense if you don’t believe in heaven, or in hell. It goes to show how many Christians no longer have faith in God, in heaven, in hell, in Jesus love for us sinners.
Perhaps if you study church history, you'll find that Catholics are indeed Christians. Then again, the Protestant Reformation was 500 years ago, and I fear they haven't reformed much in the church... I say that as one who was raised Baptist, yet for all the talk about salvation, never felt saved.😢
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“The sentence of judgment says these men came to Japan from the Philippines, but I did not come from any other country. I am a true Japanese. The only reason for my being killed is that I have taught the doctrine of Christ. I certainly did teach the doctrine of Christ. I thank God it is for this reason I die. I believe that I am telling only the truth before I die. I know you believe me and I want to say to you all once again: Ask Christ to help you to become happy. I obey Christ. After Christ’s example I forgive my persecutors. I do not hate them. I ask God to have pity on all, and I hope my blood will fall on my fellow men as a fruitful rain.”-Saint Paul Miki
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Amen
@@Tuberiascaesar
The novel this was based on is written by a genuine Japanese Christian (his personal theology isn't the best, but he's a great writer). The director is kinda a lapsed catholic, but I get your point. Most Christian movies suck. There are some secular movies out there though that I think ironically portray Christian messages better than the "Christian movies" do. If you want a historical book about Japanese Christian history I have a couple recommendations.
www.amazon.com/Search-Japans-Hidden-Christians-Suppression-ebook/dp/B0076M540G
Is a great book going over the entire history of Christianity in Japan. The author sometimes does POV chapters describing his visits to historic sites. His description of hara castle, the place where around 30 thousand Christians were killed (mostly women and children) is chilling.
www.amazon.com/Christian-Samurai-Trials-Baba-Bunko/dp/0813228514
Is more of an academic book taking place after the time period of this movie. It talks about the cultural impact of Christianity and gives focus on a specific person, baba bunko.
www.amazon.com/Silence-Beauty-Hidden-Faith-Suffering-ebook/dp/B01D1NCYVA
Not a history book, but a deep analysis of the book/movie silence. I highly reccomend it to anyone.
@@Tuberiascaesar
There is more to it than that. His mother was Christian and he was initially raised Christian (that's how a lot of Christians start) but this was during the time of WW2 where Japan was fighting hard against a nation of Christians. Needless to say Endo's connection to Christianity brought his misery and prejudice. He initially hated Christianity because of it and tried a number of ideologies to replace it. But even though he abandoned the Christian God, he claimed the Christian God didn't abandon him, but called him back. He described it like an arrange marriage to an unattractive women. He didn't want to marry her, and tried to leave her for what appeared to be better looking options. But those women never cared for him, and despite trying to leave the ugly woman again and again, she always welcomed him back like the prodigal son and cared for him. He grew to realize she loved him and he grew to love this ugly woman back. That's why the analogy of the ugly woman is used in the movie. And the priest, instead of rejecting the analogy, he uses it and argues that regardless how you think she looks, it's love that's important. Endo likes using themes of love, suffering, and sacrifice in his novels. In most of his books he argues that we all feel a buried desire for the love he found in Christianity. He often depicts characters striving away from that love as fatigued and wavering away.
@@Tuberiascaesar
Yeah, judging from some of the comments they sound like people who'd support 1984 or the fascist movements in the 20th century "protecting national security".
It was a fear mostly of an authority figure above any earthly power that scared them the most.
"The first commandment urges disobedience to the orders of the sovereign or father if compliance would mean denial of Deus's will; it entreats one to hold life itself cheap in such a situation. In this respect lurks the intention to subvert and usurp the country"-Hadaisu the fact that a daimyo like Ukon would actually refuse to renounce his faith under orders shocked the ruling class.
BTW, I looked it back up, turns out the number is closer to 37-40 thousand were executed at hara's castle (only a third of them were adult males) 10 thousand heads were set up on stakes around the castle, 3,300 were sent to Nagasaki to intimidate the people.
We got an estimate of how many men vs. Women & children were killed because the women and children had their noses cut off and piled high.
To be fair to the Japanese government, these were rebels and rebel family members. But the rebel because of years of harsh treatment as shown in the movie. It's like the slave owner constantly afraid of a slave revolt and thus is even more brutal to his slaves which only encourages a revolt. The government had no one to blame but themselves.
@@Tuberiascaesar
I've seen bishop Barron's review too. Good stuff 👍
I think this is also good.
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Great film,not entertainment.
Arrogance of man is to ask God why? Does the clay ask the potter, "Why have you made me thus?" Asking for forgiveness is a continuous activity if we truly understand man's standing before Holy God.Secular moviemakers are blind to how God works everything to his glory. Even our suffering. God spared not his own Son so we might be saved eternally. To ask why we suffer is to misunderstand the gospel of Christ.
Have you believed the gospel? The gospel is that Jesus died on the cross for your sins was buried and rose again the third day
What is Mance doing South of the Wall...this is high treason !!!😡😠
This is silly.
“To live is in Christ, to die is to gain.”
Do you actually believe that? Death is seen as glorious, not something to be avoided.
This movie only makes sense if you don’t believe in heaven, or in hell.
It goes to show how many Christians no longer have faith in God, in heaven, in hell, in Jesus love for us sinners.
@@Tuberiascaesar yeah, I’ve seen his review. He didn’t like this film either.
Heaven and hell are made up fairy tales.
Japanese papists not Christians
Perhaps if you study church history, you'll find that Catholics are indeed Christians. Then again, the Protestant Reformation was 500 years ago, and I fear they haven't reformed much in the church... I say that as one who was raised Baptist, yet for all the talk about salvation, never felt saved.😢