Nightstalkers & the State of Mantic Games (RANT)

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  • Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
  • This is a big one! Andrew, Coach and Ryan talk about the new Nightstalkers coming out for Deadzone and Firefight. But they also discuss the state of Mantic Games! Enjoy!!!
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  • @jasonhall8882
    @jasonhall8882 2 місяці тому +8

    I can smell this vid from here (Scotland) ... Poor Ryan, all the smoke going into his face :D

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому

      Scotland!!!! What’s up brother! Yes, but Ryan was smelling a high quality smoke.😉

  • @nerdstuffandreviews7578
    @nerdstuffandreviews7578 2 місяці тому +3

    I only like about half of the models from the faction, so I wouldn’t be inclined to dive in with these for Firefight. If a small box of 10-15 were done as a Deadzone strike team, something like the reanimation division set, then I think I might.
    ‘Nameless adjacent’ is a very apt description. If it came down to it for firefight, I would rather play Nameless (were it an option).
    Finally, yes…Reba at the very least need a starter box for Deadzone. It’s been too long.

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому +1

      Rebs need new models, Andrew has been waiting forever.
      I think these guys will be good for DZ, but I need rules to break them down. We don’t play FF, but this may tip the scales.

  • @MidniteCathedral
    @MidniteCathedral Місяць тому +1

    Based on leaked pre-orders from a game store site, it seems like the Matsudan and Nightstalker Deadzone boxes are tentatively scheduled for release on July 24th. So hopefully we'll see the Deadzone rules for both in July!
    The Matsudan boxes seem to mention Ronin, a Gyoji (reference to sumo?), Crocodogs, Gravbikes, a Daidarabotchi mech, and a Matsudan variant of the Marionettes.

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  Місяць тому +1

      See, that sounds really awesome. I have 2 packs of the old Matsudons and Ota, would love to run an army of just Matsudons, without any Marionettes.

    • @MidniteCathedral
      @MidniteCathedral Місяць тому +1

      @@familyofgamers777 Update: just checked the Firefight list builder, and it looks like the new Matsudan stuff has been added to an Asterian (Beta) list. The Matsudan faction hasn't been added to the Deadzone list builder yet, but the new Firefight entries should give a better idea of what they're getting and how it might play in Deadzone.

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  Місяць тому +1

      @@MidniteCathedral I saw that. The only thig is I'd like to see some variety in Deadzone from Firefight. The DZ should have differences because if the smaller/skirmish size. Keep your fingers crossed.

  • @rustedbeetle
    @rustedbeetle 2 місяці тому +5

    The Rebs should be in the Vault. No question.

    • @nickbrooks2236
      @nickbrooks2236 2 місяці тому +3

      I disagree. I think they are popular enough that they will receive a hard plastic release with upgrades available on the vault.

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому +2

      I think the old models should be in the Vault, and then new plastics come out, also, how about some new units

    • @ClaudioMacShepherd
      @ClaudioMacShepherd 2 місяці тому +3

      @@familyofgamers777 the old models (except Star Saga) are hand sculpted, so no way to get them to the vault. Ronnie mentioned in the latest update, that after the summer campaign, the people may decide what hard plastic sprue is next. Mobilize all the Rebs lovers out there (I'm on of them from the start!) and let's make this a Reb-Reality!

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому +2

      Oh man, I think you have just released a monster. Andrew will be all over this!!!!!!

    • @rustedbeetle
      @rustedbeetle 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ClaudioMacShepherd They can always be scanned and cleaned up digitally.

  • @jeremyherndon2974
    @jeremyherndon2974 2 місяці тому +3

    The Rebs have been out of stock since like 2018! They really need to redo them and get them back into the game! I can’t believe they are adding new factions before they gave us new Rebs! They don’t need new rules they play just fine now but they need miniatures people can’t play a faction that doesn’t have miniatures!

    • @ERBarratt
      @ERBarratt 2 місяці тому +3

      Scifi of summer....keep your eyes peeled.

    • @jeremyherndon2974
      @jeremyherndon2974 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ERBarratt I really hope they do a lot with them! I’m itching to throw money at Mantic I want a company I can support again not just hate on!

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому +1

      I hope they revamp the Rebs models too. It’s been a long time, would be great. I bet it would spark an interest in the faction

  • @Kparadies
    @Kparadies 2 місяці тому +1

    When you're talking at 50:00 ish about the assasin i couldnt help but wonder, whats your opinion on the caratid? i feel like that model is everything an assasin should be balanced out by being a specialist

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому

      The. Static is a beast! He is so good with Frenzy 2, and only 4 points more than the Assassin. Not the biggest fan of the model, but he is a definite add to a nameless list.

  • @thehobbyhabit
    @thehobbyhabit 2 місяці тому +2

    Love Rebs. Nightstalkers are great. Dislike the reuse of scarecrows, won’t be an FF faction for me out of the gate. Deadzone I’m going to snatch up immediately!

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому +1

      I agree, but, the FF box is a good deal. I hate when I have to get more at the start. All at once for us. I would like to try them at FF. Of course Deadzone is a given.

  • @TableTopTransformer
    @TableTopTransformer 2 місяці тому +2

    Why do the marauders need new stats?
    The alpha reb stuff from star saga should be on the vault

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому

      We didn’t say the marauders needed new stats, new models. They need some additions to the team.
      The Alpha Simeon’s are not in the vault. They really should be

  • @nickbrooks2236
    @nickbrooks2236 2 місяці тому +3

    Honestly nightstalkers feel like deamons in 40k. A faction you can use in multiple games.

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому +1

      That’s the best description. Deamons from the warp, Monsters from your nightmares. The deamons would be a good proxy for them. Looking forward to this release

  • @isaacnoe4574
    @isaacnoe4574 2 місяці тому +1

    Last few runs of crazy boxes had some rebs. Ive converted a lot of rebs though from dreadball teams and star wars legion

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому +1

      I think they were good 11 years ago, now they need an upgrade. Star Wars legion Rebel Troopers work great!

  • @SciFiPorkChop28
    @SciFiPorkChop28 2 місяці тому +2

    I think the big gun dog is actually on a 50mm or 60mm base looking the size comparison.... so it's 'uge from what I can tell!!!

  • @tinywargamer3863
    @tinywargamer3863 2 місяці тому +1

    also Woo! Go Rebs!!! But 4 real, I'm with Andrew all the way, for getting things right at our own backyard before going balls deep in the uncharted waters of messing with all this "worlds colide" shit!!!!

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому

      Rebs need new models. Done expand without taking care of the OG’s!

  • @Kparadies
    @Kparadies 2 місяці тому +1

    The hilarious thing is that both my buddies factions, nameless and rebs dont show up on mantics deadzone page, only in the store 😂

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому

      That’s harsh. The only thing is the whole Nameless faction is in the Vault. Rebs, We are still holding on to hope.

  • @tinywargamer3863
    @tinywargamer3863 2 місяці тому +1

    @23:00 that would be a great feature in the Companion app, the ability to notice how many copies of each model one have ( I remember it was avalible, along with the home made picture of the models, in the free app that preceded Companion)

  • @SciFiPorkChop28
    @SciFiPorkChop28 2 місяці тому +4

    Beta Nighstalker rules for Firefight up on the companion .... sweet!

  • @galenteschendorf9429
    @galenteschendorf9429 2 місяці тому +1

    Rebs are my favorite faction. Those alien models are so unique.

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому

      Andrew’s favorite also. The look of them is fantastic!

  • @fabianvalle1431
    @fabianvalle1431 2 місяці тому +2

    The flyers make me think of the creatures from the movie The Mist. Other dimensional horrors.

  • @andrewbecker530
    @andrewbecker530 2 місяці тому +2

    The Reapers remind me of the monsters in Quiet Place.

  • @Ultramarine40
    @Ultramarine40 2 місяці тому +1

    @36:00 REBS - Who Cares about Rebs! FOGAndrew is officially cooked "I Love the Rebs".... FFS /disowned.

  • @tinywargamer3863
    @tinywargamer3863 2 місяці тому +1

    Come on! I really don't understand what all the fuss is about.... It's just a reskin of Nameless (shrug of the shoulders). And besides, I've always admired Mantic for creating such a high level of probability of what lies ahead for humanity in the Warpath universe (Magacorps taking over, discoveries of other species without the ramblings of religious fanatics a.k.a. 40k), but I feel that once we start deploying scarecrows in silly hats in the DZ, it will be lost forever...😭😱

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому +1

      I don’t agree with you and Ryan, about the nameless reskin. I do see the similarities, but there are a lot more differences. The funny hat and pumpkins is hard to get over, I will agree to that.

  • @fabianvalle1431
    @fabianvalle1431 2 місяці тому +1

    Andrew asking where’s Rebs? Is the equivalent of release the Snyder cut. No one wants it but a loud minority.

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому

      True Dat!

    • @Kparadies
      @Kparadies 2 місяці тому +1

      I'm glad to be a part of that minority!

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому

      We will embrace you Hommie!

    • @fabianvalle1431
      @fabianvalle1431 2 місяці тому

      We will absolutely embrace you but still not care for the Rebs. Only Rebs that matter are the rebel alliance.

    • @familyofgamers777
      @familyofgamers777  2 місяці тому

      Eh, the DZ Rebs count too

  • @fabianvalle1431
    @fabianvalle1431 2 місяці тому +1

    No one wants the Rebs.